Matthew Perry’s death is being investigated by the LAPD’s Robbery Homicide division

When a big-name celebrity passes away, the more tabloid-y sites will look for an angle so that they can continue to get exclusives from the cops and the coroner’s office. Sometimes there are legitimate journalistic reasons, like foul play or some kind of criminal activity is involved. I don’t think that’s the case with Matthew Perry’s passing though. I think TMZ is just hellbent on making his passing as scandalous as possible, when really, a former addict passed away suddenly after some physical exertion (Perry played pickleball for a few hours the day he died). In any case, TMZ is trying to make something completely normal sound like Perry’s death is being investigated as a murder.

Matthew Perry’s death was not the effect of a fentanyl or meth overdose, at least that’s what initial tests indicate … TMZ has learned. Law enforcement sources tell TMZ investigators ran a less-in-depth test on Perry which revealed he did not have fentanyl or meth in his system. However, it’s important to note, more in-depth tests are still being conducted as part of toxicology to analyze whether any other illegal drugs present in his blood — and if the levels of any prescription meds were at harmful doses.

Those results will likely take anywhere from 4-6 months to be returned, and once all that data is gathered, the coroner will determine the cause and manner of death. As we first reported, the prescription drugs found in Matthew’s house were all prescribed to the actor for his various ailments, and stored in proper bottles.

If something illicit were to come back in his autopsy results, LAPD’s Robbery Homicide Division would continue to investigate. RHD’s involvement initially had people scratching their heads, especially as there’s currently NO evidence of foul play … however, it’s common for detectives from that division to take the lead on high-profile cases because of its experience and dedicated manpower.

As TMZ first reported, Matthew was found unresponsive in his hot tub Saturday at his home in the Pacific Palisades after playing pickleball for a couple hours earlier that day at Riviera Country Club.

While it appears he died from drowning, the Coroner will have the official word, once all the testing is complete.

[From TMZ]

Granted, most of what I know about the LAPD comes from The Closer, but this kind of situation is pretty typical – of course Robbery Homicide is investigating, because they don’t want to get caught with their pants down if they just shrugged off Perry’s death and closed the case in a day. Robbery Homicide regularly investigates deaths in which there is no suspicion of foul play and they regularly investigate deaths of VIPs, regardless of the circumstances. The real scandal here is that in LA County, it takes four to six months to get toxicology and blood work results. Maybe instead of buying more armored tanks and weapons of war, LA County should properly fund their labs and their coroner’s office.

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  1. Gem says:

    4 to 6 months is not because the test takes long, its because there are red tapes….they don’t just make everything public in one go. Public is nt even priority, the family is!

  2. Nubia says:

    Question: Why do toxicology tests take so long,is that the same as the coroners report? I dont get if they determined there was no meth,fentanyl so quickly why it has to take months for a full report!?

    • NG_76 says:

      My cousin’s little boy passed suddenly at the beginning of October in his sleep. It’s going to take that long for the autopsy reports. I guess it’s just standard this is in Canada too
      .

    • Brenda says:

      The different chemicals and equipment used for this level of specialty testing is so incredibly expensive that there are only a few sites that do it and different coroner offices contract out to these couple of sites.

    • Dutch says:

      Toxicology and coroner’s report are different. The coroner determines what happened — in this case if he drowned or had some sort of episode that caused him to lose consciousness, etc. The initial tox screen is only sensitive enough to determine the presence of recently ingested substances. The full report could help provide the why by determining levels of what chemicals are in the system and if they interact in a way that would have been harmful or fatal. It takes a while to get these done because there is a huge backlog.

    • TheVolvesSeidr says:

      They don’t take long at all, at least not in orange county. If there is no clear cause the coroner will take as long as they need to try to give a cause. This is what happened in my son’s death. They release a provisional, certified death cert so banks can be closed, etc, but it took 6 months to get the actual dc w/ a cause on it. This is my experience anyway.

    • Pinkosaurus says:

      Sometimes toxicology takes so long because it is stepped. If they find something in early testing, they may be done fairly quickly. If the first round of testing for the most likely or common results are negative, they may start testing for additional, less likely substances.

  3. Anna says:

    When I heard of how he passed initially it did make me a little confused, death by drowning in a hot tub? I’m still a little baffled, but I didn’t (and probably won’t) read further into it.

    Rest in peace, you were my favourite Friend.

    • bettyrose says:

      I’m embarrassed to say my SO and I discussed at length whether a healthy 50 year old could drown in a hot tub (because we’re roughly the same age as Matthew, actually SO is exactly the same age and it hits different when that’s the case). I don’t want to be disrespectful, and I’m not speculating online, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with using a celebrity death to take an inventory on one’s own life and health status.

      • Christine says:

        I think that is completely normal! I am a person who has never liked hot tubs all that much, and never stay in one longer than 5 minutes, because I don’t enjoy the sensation of being really hot and wet. I had a, “whew, I won’t go out that way!” moment when I read the circumstances of his death. It’s just what we do when someone dies relatively young.

      • HeyJude says:

        He wasn’t a “healthy” 50 year old though. He had a string of medical issues and as a long term drug issuer previously it’s likely he did some permanent damage to his body. I’d bet anything this was an undetected heart issue, perhaps from his substance abuse, that lead to a heart attack after the exertion of playing earlier that day. He happened to be in a hot tub when it happened which is why he drowned.

      • BQM says:

        @hey Jude The hot tub could’ve exacerbated any heart issues too. They’re not recommended for anyone with a heart condition or blood pressure issues. And having played pickle ball for hours prior it could’ve led to dehydration and loss of consciousness as well.

      • bettyrose says:

        I think you’re all nailing the “could a ‘healthy’ 50 year old die this way” point. Only Matthew’s doctor (and by now coroner) knows for certain, but the point is that it’s not ours to speculate. His struggles with addiction have been very public and yes probably have lasting health effects, but that doesn’t mean that other 50 year olds shouldn’t take notice and consider our own risks right now.

    • Lightpurplei says:

      Drowning in a hot tub is a serious possibility. I have a whirlpool tub in my bathroom. When it was installed, I was given numerous warnings about the high risk of drowning due to falling asleep and sliding under. Recommended maximum time in the tub is 15 minutes. Alcoholic beverages while in the tub are also warned against as they increase drowning risk.

      • Anna says:

        Damn, learn something new every day, thanks @Lightpurple. Hot tubs aren’t common where I’m from.

    • NG_76 says:

      It happens, happened to a lady I know here in town a few years ago. They think she had a heart attack. He had played pickle ball for hours that day. It’s tragic but it’s a possibility.

      • windyriver says:

        A bout of serious exercise can loosen particles (plaque, calcification) already present in a blood vessel, resulting in a cascade of ultimately fatal events some time later. Won’t go into how I know.

      • bettyrose says:

        I run and take high impact gym classes. I don’t have a jacuzzi and only take hot baths vs. showers to settle my angry fibroids (water costs *a lot* where I live). I still consider myself 30, but I’m not and it’s good to be always assessing my own health. At 50, people stop saying you’ve died tragically young, but we have the potential to live meaningful lives for another 40-45 years these days. We should take a tragic death seriously and try to learn from it.

    • Bad Janet says:

      Hot tubs are generally safe, but anybody with an underlying heart condition or taking certain medications has to be really careful. We don’t know his medical history, and who knows what meds he needed on a daily basis?

      It’s entirely possible he had a cardiac event and then drowned, or, just had a cardiac event.

      No matter what – he didn’t deserve that.

    • It is very unlikely that falling asleep in a tub would by itself result in drowning. The normal response to water blocking the mouth and nose would be to immediately wake up. A completely different picture if a medical episode or injury or drugs or alcohol were involved of course. But I’m not going to speculate. It is very sad whatever the circumstances, RIP Matt.

      • Theresa says:

        Given that he had played pickleball earlier there is a possibility that he was dehydrated and with his past heavy drug use he could have damaged his heart (the drug use caused other damage…I believe he lost a portion of his colon?) so it is highly plausible that it was a heart attack.

    • Museum Lady and the Law says:

      I thought about the why and how of it for a few days now, and I’m convinced this was the result of his health issues. He didn’t even need to have a heart attack or a stroke.
      My dad went through a period, (he was a raging alcoholic), where his electrolytes were off regularly, and he would pass out as a result.
      If Matthew had payed pickle ball for 2 hours, didn’t drink enough water!, (also very important), his electrolytes are off and he gets into a hot tub for a period of time, it is entirely possible he just passed out.
      People who abuse their bodies the way he did can be ticking time bombs.
      Happened to my dad. He was going and going and then collapsed, went into organ failure and died 3 days later. His body, because of his disease, was so damaged it gave out.
      He was in his early 60’s.

      RIP Matthew 🙏

  4. Bad Janet says:

    Ugh. TMZ is as bad as the Daily Fail. Toxic to the nth. I refuse to ever visit that site on principle.

  5. Lucía says:

    Yesterday I listened to the Friends Theme song after a while. Usually it puts me in a great mood. Now it just made me very sad.

  6. Coreths says:

    In LA all deaths outside a hospital are treated as a homicide until determined otherwise. My father in law fell and died a few months ago in LA. His care giver found his body when she arrived for work in the morning. The LAPD immediately turned the house into a crime scene to investigate. He was in poor heath, so it only took a few hours to determine there was no criminal activity. But even when old people die at home, the LAPD have to rule out homicide.

    • North of Boston says:

      Interesting to know. I’ve heard in other places any unattended death gets a closer investigation just because the exact progression of events wasn’t known.

  7. Boxy Lady says:

    I’m not that surprised it takes that long because LA county is one of the largest counties in the US. There’s nearly 10 million in that one county, I could only imagine how busy they are. At least in NYC, each of the 5 boroughs is a separate county so that kind of workload is spread out. (And going off of the various L&O shows, if it happened in NYC, this investigation would go to Major Case?)

    As for Matthew, I could envision him having a heart attack, going unconscious, and sinking into the water. I can’t imagine that he had the healthiest heart after all those years of substance abuse.

  8. Steph says:

    I think the real scandal is that tmz has the lapd on payroll.

  9. Lola says:

    LA County has a very small coroner office, with minimal staff. At least not in a reasonable ratio to the population. Hence the delay in processing of toxicology results and such.

  10. phlyfiremama says:

    Being in a hot tub dilates your micro circulation, which causes more blood to flow to your skin and extremities, which can lead to a sudden loss of normal central circulation and cause weakness, heart palpitations, and even fainting. This is why people with heart issues need to be careful with using them. With his extensive history of drug abuse (and let’s face it, celebrities have pretty easy access to heavy duty RX drugs and street drugs), a heart attack would be the most likely cause.

  11. Talia says:

    His tired body finally gave up. It is so heartbreaking but not a scandal that TMZ can milk.

    My Dad was a lifelong smoker & heart condition. He died at 59 after his third triple bypass.

    My Dad’s doctor told him repeatedly no hot baths and no hot tubs.

  12. chococat says:

    I really despise TMZ. Them and the cop that leaked the info. The fact that his family found out about his death online is horrible. Shame on them. The pain you feel when you lose someone close and you find out via social media because they just couldn’t freaking wait to post about hurts. It has happened to me before.

    RIP Matthew Perry 💜