Telegraph: Mike Tindall has become ‘the brother Prince William needs’

The palace and the press have been trying to make this particular story happen for several years: Prince William doesn’t need Prince Harry because William has Mike Tindall. That’s been a talking point for two solid years, because seemingly everyone in the Windsor clan is still trying to “replace” Harry and Meghan. Mike Tindall has been tasked with being One Pint Willy’s best friend and surrogate brother. Speaking of, the Telegraph has a new piece called “How Mike Tindall became the brother Prince William needs.” From what I know of Mike, he is loutish, violent, boorish, crude and a cheater. I suspect that William and Mike’s relationship is based on “birds of a feather flock together.”

Mike is acting as “uncle” to the Wales kids: The 45-year-old husband of Prince William’s cousin Zara threw an affectionate arm around Prince William’s son George when the Royals greeted well-wishers at Sandringham on Christmas Day. Abandoning formality, Tindall once again resembled the jolly uncle at a family do, who can be relied upon to liven up proceedings. In the absence of Prince William’s actual brother, the California-dwelling Duke of Sussex, the former England rugby star has, to some extent, come to fill the void; to allow the heir to the throne to truly relax and to be someone he can confide in.

William & Mike’s relationship: Royal commentator Dickie Arbiter, a former Palace press secretary, believes the amicable relationship between Prince William and Tindall owes much to their similar personalities. “Mike is a pretty straight guy,” he says. “He’s down to earth, and William is too. Put aside [William’s] role in state occasions, where he has to maintain a certain decorum; the rest of the time, if he goes to a rugby or football match he’s in there cheering with the rest of the fans.” Both Prince William and Tindall are “likeable guys”, and Zara’s longstanding closeness to her cousin has “rubbed off” on her husband, he says. “We’ve seen [this] time and again in William and Mike’s interactions. They are a proper family. They’re not playing at it.” Arbiter says: “They are two peas from the same pod, they’ve just had different upbringings.”

William wishes he could be a lout like Mike: Royal biographer Ingrid Seward, editor in chief of Majesty magazine, suggests Tindall’s appeal to Prince William lies in his embodiment of the kind of fun the heir to the throne can no longer indulge in. “Mike Tindall has that kind of sportsman camaraderie that would especially appeal to William, who was once a wild boy himself,” she says. “Mike gets funnier under the influence of alcohol and can be totally outrageous. William cannot do this anymore as he is too aware of his responsibilities. But he can live vicariously through Mike.”

A brotherly bond: Meanwhile, according to Telegraph Royal editor Hannah Furness, the two men do indeed share a “brotherly relationship”. She says: “[Tindall] has somehow managed to find the line between being fairly indiscreet but so charming with it that nobody minds in the slightest. Even his high-risk turns on reality TV have ended up an asset to the royals: if he likes them, the public senses, they must be all right.”

[From The Telegraph]

William and Zara have always been especially close – they’re close in age, they grew up together in a sense, and I’m not surprised that William is close to Zara’s husband in general. But this really smacks of desperation, to make Mike into a surrogate brother, a surrogate Harry. Remember Mike’s comments about Harry in 2021, when he talked about how he violently attacked Harry when Harry was only 18/19? And Mike suggested that the whole family would love to assault Harry and now they can because Harry doesn’t have royal protection. As I said, William and Mike ARE alike. That’s why they get along.

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  1. Laura-Lee MacDonald says:

    “Resembles a jolly uncle?” Is that British speak for ‘that’ uncle? The racist, multi-phobic, loud, and misogynistic uncle who ruins every family get together by getting drunk and offensive in the name of “I’m just joking! Can’t you take a joke?” Yeah, that tracks, actually.

  2. JanetDR says:

    They are so desperate to talk about Harry. Who would want to friends with that lout? Or be married to him? Honestly, it makes me almost sad for them. Almost, because of how they treated Harry.

    • Yes they are!! Harry has a brother his name is Nacho. If this is what they want for Peg they are scrapping the underneath of the barrel with this Neanderthal.

      • Linda says:

        Yes!! And Nacho is a huge trade up for Harry. Mike T, not so much for Wills.
        The Cambridge kids missed out on an awesome Uncle in Harry, maybe one day they’ll go to him on their own.

    • Proud Mary says:

      I’m sorry, but I can never get that image out of my head, of Mike Tindall interacting with his 8-year-old daughter at the last jubilee. Does William want Charlotte around Mike? Who are these people fooling? William has never been a brother to Harry; so I guess Mike Tindall, sewage dweller extraordinaire, obvious philanderer, is Williams first brother. As they say, birds of a feather always flock together.

    • Caribbean says:

      That is my problem with all of the ‘news’ about that family in Britain…they do not generate any interest without using H & M. It always a compare and contrast thing.
      Ok, so Mike is now the brother that William wanted…cool; we would be terribly happy for the crown (if or when we read about it and find out [if they did not add the name of H]), and the quality of men the crown will have with William and Mike as head brute and bottle washer.

  3. SarahCS says:

    Is this commentary supposed to make either of them look good?

    • S says:

      Well I’m very happy for William and Tindall because HARRY IS NOT AVAILABLE FOR THAT FAKE BROMANCE 🤣🤣🤣

  4. Jais says:

    While I don’t doubt there are loutish similarities, this story still feels weird. I don’t think these two actually hang out that much. I’m sure they get on fine but they’re not besties. Feels like a story to spin to make William seem relatable. They’re both “likable” guys is such silly thing to say.

    • JT says:

      Mike just called William a lightweight who can’t hold his liquor. What an amazing bond. 🙄 Besides, it’s not like William and Harry were all that close either. There is nothing to replace.

      • Chloe says:

        William and Harry were never that close but going by how warmly and playful their children are with each other I do believe mike, zara william and kate hang out much.

        I think it’s easier for william to be close to mike because there is no way mike will ever be more popular than him. So there is no jealousy issue here.

      • Tessa says:

        Mike is not a good influence . Having the amusing drinker around the Wales children is wrong on many levels.

      • Lulu says:

        Interesting how Mike made up one pint Willy just days before a tabloid report Willy is boozing.

      • SueBarbri33 says:

        Absolutely, Lulu. And, I’d like to point out, that The Crown even subtly referenced William’s drinking problem. It must be another of his well-known proclivities.

      • Chloe says:

        Omg@Lulu i completely forgot about that! Willy drinking so much that even Kate is concerned. So clearly they knew that story was dropping and Mike was sent out to do damage control

      • 1960tlm says:

        @Chloe, Exactly! Mike will never be smarter, more popular or even more handsome, if you can believe that, (yuck!) then William. Mike is a dunce, loudmouth and ogre compared to William. He’s “Shrek” in the flesh. The fact that they even allowed Tara to marry this guy, and the fact that Camilla spoke ill regarding President Biden and told the World that he broke wind in front of her, speaks volumes in regards to that toxic family! Who knows if that silly story actually even happened, but the fact that she announced it says more about her ( the side chick mistress who has absolutely no class) than it says about The President. Mike has No Class either, he’s the perfect brother for William! Plus Harry was never close to William that has always been a big lie, so the only one losing is Will.

    • Robert Phillips says:

      Have you ever noticed when you get a group of jocks together. Especially former jocks. There is always one guy who wasn’t a jock but wants so desperatley to be liked by them that they will do anything. That’s William. Tindell i’m sure is constantly making fun of William. And really doesn’t like William. But keeps him around because of the pursestrings. If William didn’t have the money or title. He wouldn’t have any friends. Because he doesn’t have the personality.

      • BeanieBean says:

        Yep. And William probably tells himself he could have made the team, if only he weren’t royal.

    • Eurydice says:

      If they were really hanging out together, wouldn’t we have seen them hanging out together? William may seem uninteresting to us, but the tabloids still follow him – and Mike is such a blabbermouth that he wouldn’t be able to stop talking about it.

      The only part of this article that references an actual meeting between William and Mike is the Christmas walk at Sandringham. Everything else is guesswork by the royal “experts.”

      • Proud Mary says:

        Someone (perhaps a British tabloid; don’t recall who) posted a video of William celebrating his birthday at a nightclub in London. William was there with 2 or 3 friends. Mike Tindall was not one of them.

  5. Snuffles says:

    “ From what I know of Mike, he is loutish, violent, boorish, crude and a cheater.”

    I’m sure that’s his appeal. He can be the clown to Willy’s straight man. It’s the role Harry was supposed to play the rest of his life. Then he grew up and out of his designated role. His great sin apparently.

  6. Amy Bee says:

    This is sad and embarrassing. I hope Mike knows that his new “brotherly” role is to be the scapegoat for William.

  7. s808 says:

    Mike Tindall? The bar is below the Earth’s crust. I’m sure they get on but not the best of friends. Plus Mike is not of much use to W. He’s able to be a shield and he can’t do the work of being the King behind the curtain while W takes all the credit.

  8. Avonan says:

    🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
    “Mike gets funnier under the influence of alcohol and can be totally outrageous.…”
    I feel for MT’s kids. Truly.

  9. equality says:

    So the article admits that Will was a partier? That is surprising. Or is it still a cover-up? They make it seem like his partying days are behind him but that’s not really true?

  10. Brassy Rebel says:

    This is sick, actually. William swapped out Harry for a drunken pig? Because they’re so much alike? I can’t imagine William wants to be paired with Tindall. On top of Tindall’s many flaws, he gives off working class vibes. William wouldn’t want any association with that.

    • Proud Mary says:

      Honey Chile, if you believe this story, then I have a golden gate bridge to sell ya, fair price. There is not even the tiniest iota of truth to any notion that William intends to be friends with Mike. Remember how Harry revealed in Spare that media reports to the contrary, he was not Willaim’s best man and that in fact, William has close friends who served that role? Read between the lines– this is all about Harry; that is, the public image that they had concocted of Harry the bad boy, who had a very close nit relationship with his only sibling–all intended to prop up William, the then future future King. With Harry gone, William is being exposed. We can see all his flaws–lazy, physically unattractive, rumored cheater (rumored drunk?). Cue in duchebag Tindall to fill the role– now we’ll be served with the dichotomies: drunk vs one-pint-Willy; cheater vs devoted husband; bad parent vs devoted father, etc.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        and gormless Tindall walking right into it, thinking he’s getting a promotion b/c he’s getting more attention from the royals & the press… wonder why his MIL or his wife didn’t warn him…

      • Jais says:

        @where’s my Tiara, that’s what I’m wondering. He seems to be courting the press. Dropping tidbits in his podcast and publicly hugging George. Like why? Sure, Zara merches but you’d think she and her mom princess Anne would be side-eyeing this. Or maybe they’re good with it idk, as in the publicity will help their merching? Or the RF family is signaling to the press that mike is fair game for distraction and clicks. Unfortunately, that’s gonna mean their kids are too.

  11. Jais says:

    What’s also interesting is that they’re not even trying to make it seem like Kate and Zara are friends. I’m not saying the wives have to be friends too but I’m saying it’s weird that the papers don’t even try to make a faux friendship out of Kate and Zara.

    • Amy Bee says:

      Maybe that’s coming soon.

      • Jais says:

        I have consistently wondered why they haven’t tried to create some sort of friendship narrative for Kate. Something to counter her mean-girl vibe. Photos of her getting along with other women or having actual girlfriends. It wouldn’t have to be real but just for the cameras as is everything else they do.

      • SueBarbri33 says:

        I’m right there with you, Jais. They haven’t balanced any of the bad stuff with Kate with anything good. Even if it’s made up (like the stuff in this article), it’s still better than nothing. Did she play chopsticks this year at her little Xmas concert?

    • Bettyrose says:

      Ha! While Kate was chasing royal titles, Zara was chasing an Olympic medal. Add in Kate’s feelings about other women in Will’s life and this is the least plausible friendship in royal history. How many ways has Kate probably already attempted and failed to freeze out Zara?

    • SussexWatcher says:

      Jais – maybe they know Kkkeen is on the way out and Bully Tindall is being brought in to help Pegs get back into single-man-hood after the divorce. He’ll be Pegs’s wingman.

      As for Kkkeen getting an out with the girlfriend’s narrative, I imagine she didn’t even have keenness to play along. Especially after what happened with her last BFF and rural rival, Rose 🌹 That didn’t end the way she would have wanted so maybe she’s afraid to bring any new “friends” around Pegs, lest he steals them away from her.

      We haven’t even seen her with and Midds family members in years, let alone anyone else they could pretend was a girlfriend. She’s proudly worn the ‘not a girls girl’ label since college so I really doubt she cares. She got the “prize.”

    • Alice says:

      The only Royal family member I’ve seen Kate act like a normal person/friendly around was Peter’s ex-wife Autumn.

    • JenCF says:

      Tindall is the Windsor Court Jester. The RF like him around because they think he’s their link to ‘the common man’ – Zara really didn’t like it when Harry married Meghan as he took her badge of having diversified the family. It’s no coincidence that this stupid Eden article came out right when Mia Tindall walked with the Windsor kids and Tindall was mandhandling George during the holiday church walkabout.

    • Jay says:

      You know, that is interesting that they have never tried to do that. Think of all of the press Kate and Meghan watching a tennis match together got – wouldn’t the tabloids go bananas for Kate and Zara to go out and have some “moms day out” bs?

      We know Kate doesn’t get along with Beatrice and Eugenie, but Zara? She is of the right age, she has no title or ambitions for the throne, and she will need money/ publicity. If our keen lynchpin were more savvy, Zara could be a good ally to have in that family.

  12. Harper says:

    William has insulted cupcakes that were baked for him, joked that Covid was all “hype,” threw pillows at his wife and beat up his brother. This straight-laced person who is too aware of his responsibilities and has to live vicariously through Tindall does not exist.

    • First comment says:

      Good catch, @Harper!!! Don’t forget, William’s dad dancing, going out constantly to clubs with “friends ” and, of course, being constantly lazy and still working part-time while he’s being mia for long…all these things don’t draw a picture of a responsible adult

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Yup. William’s already a lout behind the scenes and has been for years. It’s just that he has the entire British establishment shielding him from public scrutiny and crafting a false image of him.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      Exactly, Harper. Not to mention affairs and being a racist. What they’re really looking for is a new scapegoat. They still cannot believe Harry chose his own life and sanity and the safety of his wife and children over sticking around to be abused by the family and press. They are in desperate need of someone to take the blame for – or cover up – any and all bad behavior by Pegs. They want a new boozed-up, jolly (isn’t that how they used to describe Harry, the jolly uncle?), philandering sidekick for Pegs.

  13. First comment says:

    I feel for all the children (Tindall’s and William’s)😔😔😔

    • Tiny says:

      Why?
      They’ll never go hungry

      • Jaded says:

        Because they’re being brought up in marriages teetering on the brink. All the “nudge nudge wink wink” tabloid references to W&K fighting and throwing stuff at each other, likely living apart 90% of the time, Tindall’s loutish drunken behaviour, both men caught dallying with other women…I’d say that’s a horrible environment for any kid to be brought up in. Hunger for a happy home life is just as important as an empty stomach.

      • 1960tlm says:

        @Jais, yes you are so right. They have never made a girlfriend like friendship for Kate. None of the girls she went to college with are her friends? And none of the aristocratic women that are in the Windsor’s inner circle are her friends either? And there have never been any mommy & me photos of just she and Charlotte. Lots with William & Charlotte, but none with Kate. That is very strange!! The common denominator is Kate. It’s obvious she doesn’t get along with women, because a girlfriend would never let her walk out of the house a complete copy of another women “specifically Meghan” with her wigs askew.

      • 1960tlm says:

        @Tiny, those children never asked to be born let alone asked to be born into that toxic family, wealthy or not that family is awful.

  14. Tessa says:

    William is not down to earth.mike is indiscreet and talks to the media. Mike is not a role model . Mike made sure he could hug George when cameras were around. And one of his daughters was seen holding Louis hand. This will backfire on William. Mike is a married in cousin by marriage not uncle. Mike does reality shows and getting drunk to be amusing is dysfunction

  15. Debbie says:

    He’s the brother William needs, huh? Well, he’s certainly the brother William richly deserves.

  16. Cessily says:

    I still think we are seeing the build up to a divorce/separation announcement. Mickey has become a stage 5 clinger trying to establish his connection.

    • Jais says:

      It does feel like Mike is trying to establish a public connection. Who’s it really serve? Him or William?

      • Berkeleyfarm says:

        Mostly him, I think.

        Mike and Zara’s only source of income is merching off their Royal Connection so definitely prudent to ensure their future by making very nice with the next keeper of the purse. Kind of like how Sophie is fawning over William now.

  17. Fawsia says:

    Zara was always close to both of her cousins. Also, it was said that Zara is his favorite, and in pictures, he always greets her with warmth. As Mike, he is as Kaiser said not a likable guy!

  18. girl_ninja says:

    Imagine giving up Harry for Mike Tindall? Both ugly and angry. Gross.

  19. Tessa says:

    Mike the brother William richly deserves

  20. Selene says:

    The royals are saving face from Mike’s indiscretions in his podcast, that’s all this is.

  21. Misa says:

    I shuddered thinking back at Mike’s assault of Harry.
    This really looks like textbook abusive family dynamic. The violence (spoken, physical, psychological) hidden as jokes.
    I know we’ve often discussed this here but somehow the writing on this piece has evoked it clearly, almost physically.
    I’m so glad that Harry escaped. I have a feeling that he has a long way to go to admit to himself how abused he was, and that Meghan is trying not to force him. Truly meeting her was a gift, maybe Diana had a hand in it, from wherever she is now.

  22. Tessa says:

    The same Mike who proclaimed if their third child was not a boy they would have to try again. This after his wife had a miscarriage.

    • Norvell says:

      Looks as if Zara likes this type of man. The British Press keep attempting to sell William as strong, intelligent, and likeable. Something tells me they’ll get a rude awakening in Italy…

  23. AmadaBasura says:

    Why yes, I do see Bill’s resemblance to a giant bell end with legs. Thank you for pointing that out!

  24. Angie says:

    Why is everyone so upset? William only choice is Tindall as resident clown. Harry refused to play that part. Why would he denigrate himself to be William ‘s side kick. He is so much better than him. Harry is in charge of his own corporation. People are not going to be involved with him or donate to his organizations if he is irresponsible.Harry is a responsible adult not the royal family idiot. Let Tindall have that job he is well suited for it.

  25. Over it says:

    Wank and the thug deserve each other . Both rude, obnoxious, racist and full of rage

  26. Alix says:

    “Sportsmen’s camaraderie” = toxic, performative masculinity.

  27. Immaculate Misconception says:

    The brother William needs?

    No.

    The brother William deserves?

    Absolutely.

  28. Inge says:

    Yeah so it’s Zara&Mike who are divorcing and Mike wants to make sure he won’t be forgotten?

    I will always fondly remember Harry talking to Zara after the Jubilee service and Mike hiding in a corner like the coward he is.

  29. MsIam says:

    Good, now leave Harry alone. My guess is that William hates Mike as much as he hates Harry but he’s using him to try and “hurt” Harry. They are all a bunch sickos.

  30. Steph says:

    This is the first time I’ve ever seen anyone referring to Pegs as likeable. The first time.
    Anyway two bald, raging alcoholics, who look decades older than they actually are? They really are alike.

  31. Harla A Brazen Hussy says:

    Mike will need to watch his back and stay clear of dog bowls, we’ve seen how William treats “brothers”. I wonder if Mike realizes that he’s signing up for a lifetime of being the scapegoat, the deflection from William’s (or Charles’) bad behavior? I’ll be sitting here with my bowl of popcorn and a glass of wine, watching the game play for years to come 🤣

    • Gabby says:

      Haha. This guy is actually dumb enough to hit William back.

      Every time I see him I wonder what was going through Zara’s mind when she chose this oaf.

      • Dilettante says:

        A big middle finger to the RF and the men in grey.

      • JaneS says:

        That is the truth!
        Zara could have done so much better for herself, instead of “Mike, the lad”

        Mike is a loud mouth, cheating, bullying, ex-jock. Who drinks too much, is an attention seeker of money and fame, desperate to stay connected to the RF purse strings and pocketbook.

        Frankly, his hugging George and giving Louis the I’ve got my eyes on you, finger jab BS, was too much.
        What happened to the Do.Not.Touch.Royalty rule?
        I honestly hope William told him to Keep your Hands off my kids, or had the RP Officers tell him.

        Mike is being used for PR to give the RF a new kicking boy/stooge. He is stupid and greedy enough to go along with it.
        Zara could separate from him quickly, quietly, easily. And never turn back.
        Mike is so dumb, he forgets Married In with kids = Still not one of us, ever.

  32. Laura D says:

    Wasn’t there a story going around that one of Mike’s podcast presenters was joshing with him about ‘brown-nosing’ the royals? I think he probably does get on well with William because he says what William wants to hear and does exactly what William wants him to do. It is not a friendship of equals. The press are trying to portray this friendship has the closeness of Nacho and Harry. However, the most telling difference about the two friendships is that Nacho has always supported Harry without the need to slate William.

    • Eurydice says:

      Yes, the story was that the RF have nicknamed him “Solesy” because he has his head so far up the royals’ asses that only the soles of his shoes are visible.

  33. JaneS says:

    Read that as Mike is the brown nosing, boot liker William is currently tolerating.

  34. Mary Pester says:

    Gosh who’d have thunk it. Two male bully’s being friends, two jealous, self opinionated males having a bromance. William wants Harry’s life, Tindal the thug would love a title so yeah, they get each other because they are hoping one can give the other what he wants. But the main thing they have in common, the really, really, important thing they have in common, is their jealous, rage filled personalities. But Tindal the thug better be careful, because one wrong word and your out. No one is allowed to outshine the heir.

  35. aquarius64 says:

    Tindal is married to Zara, the 21st in line to the throne. That along with his thuggish behavior poses no threat to William but his indiscretion poses a threat to the Crown. He just told enemies of the UK its future head of state can be compromised.

    • Kit says:

      Jesus thats soo ture !!!!

    • Rnot says:

      The thing about an inherited position is that every intelligence agency on Earth has already had four decades to monitor, influence, and compromise the future head of state. None of this will be news to the kind of people who collect kompromat. They already know.

  36. Eurydice says:

    So now it’s ok to be indiscreet and leak stories about the RF as long as you’re charming?

  37. Kittenmom says:

    Tindall is a stupid ape that looks like he’s been hit in the head by the rugby ball one too many times 🙄 Exactly what Willy deserves.

  38. Libra says:

    Wait until Kate sees that photo of Mike hugging George and kissing him on forehead on Christmas day! ” You don’t know me well enough to kiss my son!! “

  39. ChattyCath says:

    This is low! Where’s Uncle Gary when you need him?

  40. Thelma says:

    Mike Tindall is so low-class. William is welcome to him!

  41. Beverley says:

    Racist, incandescent Pegs and his brown-nosing toady oaf Mike Tindall. Yep, that’s all class and intelligence, wrapped up in a big, fake bow of “friendship”.

    With friends like these, who needs enemies?

  42. Norvell says:

    The British Royal Reporters make William seem like an idiot, who is so weak that he needs a sidekick for emotional support. William is 41 years old, but some of the reporting makes him seem as if he’s a teenager who needs friendship and guidance. These people expect Prince Harry to sacrifice his life supporting his weak brother; shameful…

  43. QuiteContrary says:

    What William needs is a brother who’s going to tell him to straighten up and fly right. He had that in Harry but couldn’t deal with the truth.

    What he wants is a scapegoat and Tindall is enough of a grasping dumbass to comply.

  44. Scout says:

    What about Peter? William’s actual family who grew up with him?

    Is it because Peter is now divorced and dating around (I guess) so he isn’t allowed into the bubble with his unapproved girlfriends?

    Or is Peter not loutish enough?

  45. BeanieBean says:

    Oh, FFS, nobody gets ‘funnier’ when they’re drunk. Tindall’s a lout, period.

  46. Marivic says:

    Mike Tindall showed his true color when Harry and Meghan visited the UK for the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee. He snubbed Prince Harry at the church’s steps pretending he was busy talking with other relatives; didn’t acknowledge Harry’s presence. Awful man! He and William deserve each other. Both awful.

  47. smee says:

    Wow, I just watched the William episode of the Crown and I totally “get” him now. He is gutted that the ladies dgaf now and they’re into Harry. I don’t think the casting was stellar but the episode puts his psyche in perspective. Doesn’t make me like him but I understand.

    This is manufactured bs – Mike T is on the way out imo

  48. Unblinkered says:

    Tindall is just thinking of himself and his perceived ‘royal’ profile all the better to attract punters to his £20,000 a time clay shooting days that he hosts.

  49. Nerd says:

    They are both the brother that they both deserve. Neither of them are good husbands, fathers, relatives or men. Both of them have been accused and seen on multiple occasions with other women in compromising situations outside of their marriages. Both of them have shown their willingness to exploit their own children or others when their public image is being challenged. One full on admitted to previously assaulting Harry and wanting to do it again while the other instead of disputing physically assaulting Harry in NottCott has allowed his press friends to try and play it off as child’s play by a man in his late thirties where he was the only one who was physical. Neither of them are great examples of what a real man is. It’s actually insulting that the media keep trying to make them into the ultimate men, when they are so far down at the bottom of the list.