Mail: Duchess Meghan ‘might be cautiously welcomed’ back to the UK

Prince Harry will be back in the UK today, if he’s not already there by now. He flew out of LAX yesterday and took an overnight flight. Harry’s wife and children did not travel with him, which of course is being dissected and agonized over in the British media already. A reminder, for those who choose not to remember – King Charles made it perfectly clear that the Duchess of Sussex and her children are not welcome in the UK. He evicted them from their home, he banned Meghan from Balmoral and he told Harry to give four weeks’ notice when traveling to the UK. Spare me the “Meghan should have come too.” Meghan is protecting her peace and she truly doesn’t owe them anything. Well, the Daily Mail’s Maureen Callahan wrote an infuriating column as soon as the palace announced King Charles’s cancer diagnosis and we learned that Harry would travel to the UK. Some of the lowest of all lowlights:

There needs to be a royal reconciliation: If ever there was a chance for royal reconciliation, now is the time. For all of Prince Harry’s publicly expressed doubts that there is no need for him in the royal family, that he is but a ‘spare’ — the deeply concerning news about King Charles III’s cancer diagnosis proves nothing is further from the truth. Prince Harry is essential to his family, now as never before. King Charles has said that the door is always open to his youngest son. Now is the perfect time for him to take this opportunity.

The Sussexes’ absence: It’s a dark hour for the monarchy – and doubtless a darker one for Harry. How difficult it must have been for him to hear this sad news while so far away. How keenly his absence, and that of little Archie and Lilibet, must be felt back home. Charles has only met Lilibet once, during the late Queen’s Platinum Jubilee celebrations — the only time she met her namesake, too. ‘It was wonderful to have [the grandchildren] back in Britain’, a royal source said at the time, adding that Charles and Camilla ‘were absolutely thrilled to see them’.

They’re desperate for Meghan, Archie & Lilibet to come to the UK: The Palace has confirmed that Charles told each of his sons about his diagnosis personally. Harry announced that he is flying home to London immediately. Will his children soon join him, as the King and Queen would surely hope? One senses that even Meghan might be cautiously welcomed. Charles did, after all, walk her down the aisle.

A pep talk for William: William, as we know, is less forgiving than his father. But with Kate recuperating, with three small children who need his constant presence, with a sick father and the weight of the Crown suddenly heavier than ever, the absence of his only sibling must be freshly painful. Could this window, long shut to Harry, be slightly ajar? What an opportunity this might be. What a comforting presence Harry and his children could provide to the King as he undergoes treatment. What a gift he and William could give their ailing father if they could find their way to some rapprochement. Their relationship might never be the same again, of course, but that could be a good thing — or at least, a more honest one. A reconciliation doesn’t mean they have to go deep. If they can find a way to come back together, it would be greater than any title or castle or inheritance — especially for their children, who have no relationship as cousins. And specifically for Harry’s children, who have little relationship to their most incredible and historic lineage. A brotherly reconciliation would ensure the future of the monarchy itself.

[From The Daily Mail]

The disgust and revulsion I felt with “One senses that even Meghan might be cautiously welcomed.” Meghan has done absolutely nothing wrong to those people and their hatred for her is still, to this day, appalling and shocking. It’s also so grotesque that even as the monarchy suffers blow after blow, the royal establishment clings to so many of their most vile beliefs and talking points, like “of course the children would be welcomed, but leave your Black wife at home,” and “we only want Harry alone, but Meghan should be desperate to come back here!”

“A brotherly reconciliation would ensure the future of the monarchy itself.” Yeah, as I’ve said before, if Harry was so fundamental to the future of the monarchy, then he should have been treated that way this entire time. It must piss off William to no end that every “possible reconciliation” story is an admission that William is incapable of doing this by himself.

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  1. Duchess of hazard says:

    I hope Meghan and her lovely children stay HOME.

    • Lawrenceville says:

      These people are so gross, my goodness!!! What exactly did the Duchess of Sussex do to warrant her be “cautiously welcomed back”, “not be brought to see the dying queen, this is just for family”, “swiftly evicted from [her home] Frogmore cottage”? Other than fall in love with and marry a black woman, what exactly did Harry do? What crimes did Harry and Meghan commit to warrant all this grotesque hatred from Harry’s family, their firm and their tabloid media towards them?

      • Sam says:

        This all makes me so angry!!!! I hope Harry says hello briefly and then flees back to America and that the Sussexes never have anything to do with these toxic people and abusers in England again!
        Just pathetic how everyone is crying after Harry now just because Peg is too stupid and lazy to work. Now is the perfect moment for England to realize how pointless this monarchy is! Ridiculous how veryone is now acting as if Charles is about to die…

      • aftershocks says:

        ^^ Exactly, to all of the above comments! And then some! 😣😤

        These rota idiots need to calm down, stop grifting & trolling, and pay more attention to fixing their own life messes. 🙄

      • julie jules says:

        The book and Oprah int are seen as divulging personal family business.

        Even tho the “family”, and I use that term loosely, are known for backstabbing each other in the press, and no doubt privately as well, doing so is universally taboo. And Harry did it openly and proudly, there’s no denying.

      • sevenblue says:

        @julie jules, Charles has a book where he criticized his own parents more harshly than Harry ever did. All the things RF is talking sh*t about H&M, they did it before. Both Charles and Diana were giving interviews about their lives, affairs on TV too. H&M didn’t do anything Charles never did.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @julie jules, as other posters commented, Charles Dimbleby book/interview was far more harsh on Queen Elizabeth 2 & Philip, his parents than SPARE was on Charles. Simple facts. So ‘universally taboo’ so is a bit of nonsense.

        Now, if you want to make the argument that pretty much any royal book written by “royal expert” eleven million thousandsth, didn’t sell as well as SPARE. Thus, universally. Won’t argue. Or, social media & fans having receipts, that counteract the BM/BRF/RR’s rewriting history and those receipts going universal.

        Harry was much kinder to the BRF in SPARE than I wanted. The British Media/RR’s were not shown that and for very good reason.

    • Agnes says:

      I can’t imagine willingly returning to an institution which not only won’t protect you and yours, but actively works to end your health and sanity. Meghan needs to protect herself and her children, the BRF won’t. Also: There are so many older men walking around with prostrate cancer, if that’s what Charles has, it’s a very slow-moving and treatable malady, especially these days. Baldy must be truly out of control if Charles is welcoming Harry back.

      • julie jules says:

        Reading that Charles spent not even 30 min with Harry before hoping on his helicopter. That doesn’t sound welcoming at all. I’m wondering if Harry was even asked to come.

      • 1960tlm says:

        @JulieJules, I read that as well. I think Harry was asked to come back, but even on his death bed Charles is cruel! I think Charles did this dog and pony show to make Harry look bad as he always does. Charles has not seen Harry since the Con-your-nation Extravaganza, and he spends 30 minutes with him? What kind of BS is that? I see my adult children all the time and when they visit I don’t want them to leave!! Either Harry completed whatever was asked of him that he needed to do, such as sign papers etc., OR they asked him to do something and he outright refused. When are they going to realize Harry is not their puppet boy any more. This was a set up just as everything that happens over there is a set up. They are the most extreme toxic family and Harry just needs to stay away.

      • Jaded says:

        @JulieJules – Charles is not on his deathbed. A son visits his father who has cancer. All of this is normal. We don’t know how much time they spent together but the family is clearly in crisis mode and perhaps realizing that Harry is needed. Nothing was “set up”, we all know Harry is his own man and makes his own decisions. He’s doing the right and moral thing, he’s a man of integrity.

      • BQM says:

        @jaded i agree with most of that but we do know how much time Harry spent. It’s known when he arrived and when Charles and Camilla departed.

    • Debbie says:

      I don’t think I have ever seen the picture of Meghan wiping away a tear at the queen’s funeral before. Once again it showed that she was under such stress, while dealing with all the emotions one feels at a funeral, and while trying to comfort her husband.

      @Sam: As to taking this opportunity to abolish the monarchy, it’s clear that is not even in their thinking. The person who wrote this article’s opinion is that the Sussex children should be reconciled because of “their incredible and historic lineage.” The BM really relish this stuff and feel a sense of importance about the monarchy.

      • roooth says:

        Yeah, they really relish their bloody history of slaughtering each other over the centuries, always fighting dirty over who would have the power & money. It’s a glorious heritage!!

    • Caribbean says:

      I think I just noticed a band aid on Meghan’s finger at the funeral walk about – is there anything left that her sister-in-law has not copied and stalked her on??…Sorry, Sorry for this post, but everything that the RF has done to Meghan has touched me on a personal level that I have never felt for a public figure.

      • Sam says:

        @caribbean
        Omg yes, I feeeeel you!!! For me, it’s now personal level, too! It’s the first time I ever felt this for a person outside of my inner circle.
        But what they did and are doing to Meghan in front of the whole world is beyond evil and hideous.

    • StillDouchesOfCambridge says:

      Im worried their family dynamic might change because of this, it just never stops. but I hope they put their own family first. To the kind and his heir, his wife and his kids to get organized.

      • Lia says:

        @stilldouches
        Same! It would be really terrible if Harry was forced or manipulated into something that he doesn’t actually want and that isn’t good for him, Meghan and the kids.
        Fly back to America as quickly as possible and never set foot in this country again! At least not for your abuser family…

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        I just read that in order to be a Counselor of State or Regent you must be domiciled in the UK. Harry isn’t going to be forced to do anything. They have no leverage.

    • Bean says:

      Like there wasn’t article after article about how Lilibets name wasn’t the absolute WORST THING ever to happen to the Queen?! Now they want her and Archie back to visit her grandfather. These people – they’re nauseating. The best thing would be for the RF to dissolve and all these writers go back to the sewers from whence they came.

    • Mel Bridges says:

      Meghan has such a kind spirit she will do whatever is needed to support Harry.. sadly they may be going back to that gilded cage.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Sadly, there are still (at the least) two Apocritas flying about the palaces. Don’t see H&M going back to that nest of stingers.

        It’s more like a grand gesture on Meghan’s part to welcome the BRF/BM ‘cautiously’ back into her day to day life. From where I’m sitting, she’s good where she’s at now.

      • Yup, Me says:

        She’s kind. Not stupid. “Going back to the gilded cage” would be stupid. She loves Harry, but not to the detriment of her own children and they would not be safe or free moving there.

        If Harry decides to return (which I highly doubt because he’d be signing up for more proximity to William’s bullshit), he will be doing so on his own.

  2. Amy T says:

    His father. His family. She’s 100 percent supportive of Harry doing everything he can to be there for his dad. Which means not adding additional fuel to the drama pyre. I have so much respect for the way she has figured out how to navigate such a publicly toxic dynamic.

    • Miranda says:

      This. That’s why it pisses me off to no end when Meghan is accused of alienating Harry from his family. She’s done the exact opposite! She’s been nothing but compassionate and understanding of the fact that Harry has only one surviving parent and was essentially raised in a cult, and that his feelings are bound to be much more complex because of that. She knows that, no matter what his family might say or do, it’s not as simple as “just ditch ’em”. I seem to remember her actually saying to Harry, “it doesn’t have to be this way” in regards to his relationship with Charles, because she knew from experience with her own garbage father just how painful it was to lose that.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      All of this. It cracks me up to some extent that the BM doesn’t realize (or maybe some of them most likely do) that families can be f*cked up. Side note: I would love to see a Byline Times story on the messed up families of the RR’s.

      Meghan has handled all this graciously. To date, I’m not aware of her saying anything disparaging about Charles. She even called him ‘charming’ in the documentary series. Quite kind of her.imo

      Sometimes this stuff does feel personal to me. Went through similar things with my in-laws a couple of years into mine & DH’s marriage. DH’s sister, who no one talks to anymore, didn’t like me. Called me white trash. Though I held a very good job and paid my bills. Claimed I was uneducated, though I have a degree. Claimed I was a whoore because I had a child out of wedlock. And so on. It was hard.

      The one very kind aunt told me, it wasn’t me, she knew who the instigator was and always had been. Even before me. She made me cry at a dinner when she told me to keep on being me because she could see DH was happy. When things were too much for me to handle (holidays usually), I told DH to go, tell them I have the flu (but I would still make the potatoes for the meals), which made me laugh a bit…because if I was told the person making any food had the flu, big no. Even with my knowledge of high temps killing off things. fyi, refrigerator soup is great as long as you’ve boiled the sh*t out of it.

      Now, from the documentary, ‘you’re brother’. Fully support Meghan’s comments. William of Incandescant Rage and of Pointing Fingers in People’s Faces is a bigger problem. Where is Kate on her recovery? And why did the BM want it to become normal for the children to NOT see their mother?

  3. S808 says:

    Sounds to me like Meghan understands loud and clear that Charles wants nothing to do with her and his grandchildren. She’s protecting herself and her children as well as respecting Charles’ wishes. If the press has an issue, they can take it up with the King.

    • Chloe says:

      This! And Harry has also made it perfectly clear that his wife and children will not be stepping foot on UK soil unless adequate security is in place for them. The security Charles chose to strip away. So if he wants them back the ball is literally in his court

      • S808 says:

        It’s been in his court for years now and all he’s done is taken great pains to ensure he does not see Meghan or his grandchildren on any occasion. She recognizes this and is acting accordingly. The press was happy when it was all about revenge but now that the reality of those choices are here, they wanna talk about “cautiously welcoming Meghan back”. Nah.

      • Caribbean says:

        Also, Meghan is a very smart woman (and that is what the media and RF hate so much) and she will also make decisions that are best for herself and her children.

    • Amy Bee says:

      Exactly.

    • Jais says:

      Charles likes for the BM to say he’s a loving grandfather who misses Archie and Lili but it’s just not true. There is entirely too much evidence to the contrary.

      • KC says:

        There has been nothing stopping him from visiting his grandchildren in California either.

      • 1960tlm says:

        @JAIS, you are exactly right. There is no evidence that Charles is even remotely interested in getting to know Archie or Lili. He is also completely disinterested in the Wale’s children. He is not a good grandfather to any of his grandchildren. There are never any photos or articles of him spending any time with any of his grandchildren including & especially George who is the Royal Heir. There are lots of photos of Charles or Camilla with other school children (for photo ops) but none with his own grandchildren except for specific occasions. So for Charles aka The BM’s to say he misses and wants to see his California grandchildren it’s just not true, he couldn’t be bothered.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ 1960tlm, and with regards to the his other grandchildren that Charles still lives on the same island with we don’t see many photographs of them immersing themselves with their paternal grandfather either. I think we have only seen Cam’s grandchildren being granted an audience and that it that.

        It’s entirely up to you priorities which as we see they are not a priority for Charles in the slightest. All of the grandchildren suffer from this toxic cell pool of vile behaviour, pettiness and jealousy. Which will unfortunately repeat itself with the children of the Wales’s.

        Imagine how little to no self awareness to possess that you are willing to show the world your true colors as you deny such truths and proof. Looks like self awareness is a lacking character amongst all of the certain people of the Windsor clan. Must be as you are now willing to arrest people for “protesting” your final stage in life as THE MONARCH.

    • Over it says:

      Everything you said 💯.

    • swaz says:

      WHAT A FAMILY 😵😵😵

  4. Lady Esther says:

    My, the BRF/BM are sure singing a different tune now, aren’t they?

    • Where'sMyTiara says:

      The Rota sounds scared.

      They KNOW what is going on with Kate, who was responsible, and that when the truth hits the world that it will trigger a succession crisis (surprise regency), given Charles’ diagnosis.

      This article’s talking point is one I’m beginning to see repeated, and it is coming from a certain sector of the British Press who finally, begrudgingly, are acknowledging they’ve backed the wrong horse, and are trying to cleanse their timelines of hate. They are beginning to cautiously big up H&M and rehab their reputations – because they probably find it likely he would be tapped to be a regent for George. That said, there is a TON of DARVO going on because abusers just can’t help themselves.

  5. seaflower says:

    BM singing another tune now. Meg and Harry are like “hard pass”.

    • JT says:

      It’s actually Meg giving a hard pass, Harry hopped on the first plane over there.

      • AmB says:

        @JT – It’s like they’re acting like real grown up ADULTS or something, doing what they need to do!

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Ack, no, @JT. Don’t believe he hopped on the first plane over. Mentioned in a different post about scheduled cancellations on the 2nd for the 4th due to the atmospheric river. He would have flown out on the 3rd if he needed to.

        Even today there were 3 delayed British Airways flights out of LAX. Private planes would be held under the same rules. I believe.

    • IKR. Just what is really going on over there. Would Meg and Harry accept an apology? They probably would but that doesn’t mean they want to come back. They have moved on and are happy and thriving with their lives and work.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        Right! They seem to have a lovely life in Montecito. The BM will BM. There is nothing appealing about the BM or BRF life at this point. Harry has looked better and happier than ever outside of The Firm. Meghan looks like her beautiful happy self pre BM/BRF f*ckery.

        Going back to possibly be under the tethers & financial reins of William et al. Blech. In the worst case scenarios, Tyler Perry, savior to the Sussexes and Lili’s godfather, is a billionaire who provided them security and housing when the BRF wouldn’t. Worst case scenario (which would be idealistic to me), H&M would become caretakers to Perry’s properties with security & income. Please, sir, sign me up. Oprah could give them the same options. Please, ma’am. sign me up. Sometimes there is no going back. The BM/BRF/grey men insured that. The printer “quit’.

  6. Louise177 says:

    I doubt Harry is staying longer than a few days. It’s more about getting info and checking in on Charles. It doesn’t make sense to bring the kids. Especially since they don’t have a place to stay. He literally needed a room for 8-10 hours and Charles said no the last time he came. It’s one thing for Harry to get a hotel room or stay with friends. But logistically harder for a family.

    • Tessa says:

      Even a few days is too long. Imo harry should pay his respects and in about a day or two go home.

    • EPLFan says:

      And assuming he’s taking immunosuppressants as part of the treatment (likely), kids need to be as far away from him as possible. As does anyone who’s been on an airplane. If the goal is for Charles to actually have a good recovery, this is the last time Harry needs to see him until six weeks after he wraps up treatment.

      On the flip side, the Cambridge kids do not need to be trotted out for a picture with Grandpa for the same reasons.

  7. Wilma says:

    They would be welcomed by the public, because they are nice and warm people and that always translates to the public. And there are plenty of people who feel very differently towards Harry and Meghan than the Daily Mail. But the cold fish in the family would immediately feel jealous and the whole sordid game would play out exactly as before.

    • Snaggletooth says:

      I don’t know about that. I still remember those evil, snickering women during the walkabout they did after Betty’s death.

      I know that there are some in England who are ok with HM. But it seems like the vast majority have more or less embraced the Mail line even if they aren’t strictly royalists (they think HM are being “shoved down their throats,” that they “whine,” and on and on with the euphemisms). After watching so many in England seemingly turn on Meghan—the nasty remarks from Edward Einninfull and the woman from the choir that performed at Meghan’s wedding were particularly galling—it seems like at the end of the day they just don’t have any support with any actual integrity.

      • Couch Potato says:

        Meghan and Harry might very well be shoved down their throats, but that’s the rota’s fault. The insane numbers of articles they have written about H&M would make a lot of people fed up. Many people don’t understand that most of the articles are regurgitation of the rota’s fantasy stories on constant repeat.

      • Wilma says:

        They’re pretty popular in the groups of Brits I hang out in (hobby related). Made me think that it might not be as grim as we get to see on the outside. Meghan really resonates with lots of women in those groups.

      • CaptainCrunch says:

        @ SNAGGLETOOTH That was one lone female. Go look at the video the rest were just fine with M&H. The British Tabs chose to amplify to spin a narrative. Same with the “booing.” A small minority amplified by the British tabs. They are just fine the UK. It’s the press that has the issue and a small handful of crazies. The people that believe this narrative are the type of people who fall for cons.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @Snaggletooth, the evil snickering white women during the walkabout were few.

        I’ll always remember..the hug that went around the world. Recollections may vary, don’t recall the evil snickering white women being interviewed by CNN. Might be wrong.

        https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/09/11/meghan-hug-windsor-walkabout-vpx.cnn

  8. Jess says:

    I don’t see any circumstance where she would go back to that country. Not even Charles’ funeral.

    • SURE says:

      In the event of KFC’s funeral, I think she’d go to support her husband.

      • Lawrenceville says:

        But William’s closest friend already said “William fckuing absolutely hates” Harry and “William will ban Harry and Meghan from his father’s funeral”. All words and statements straight from William and his camp. Charles stated that he wants Meghan and her children nowhere near them because “she is not family” and the BM says Meghan will “cautiously be welcomed” to come visit the king. Meghan has respectfully granted everyone’s wish and staying away from the UK except when in transit at Heathrow on her way to Dusseldorf, very respectfully taken her black self and her black children out of the entire equation. How will Meghan be at Charle’s funeral considering the entire family’s sentiment towards her and her children? I don’t see how this is possible!!

      • Amy Bee says:

        Charles doesn’t consider Meghan family so she’s of no obligation to go and Harry knows that.

      • Lulu says:

        Agree, I think Meghan will (at some time!) go to Charles funeral to support Harry.

    • S808 says:

      I’d say she’d go to support Harry if anything. Charles hates her though so I could also see her continuing to respect his wishes and staying home with the kids.

      • roooth says:

        I don’t think Chuck hates Meghan. I think Cowmilla is insanely jealous of Meghan, and its easier for Chuck to keep his bitch of a wife happy than have Meghan around. And Chuck has been using Harry stories leaked to the tabloids to protect both Willy and Cowmilla’s spawn for decades. I doubt if he thought twice about how rude he was to Harry & Meghan. He was just doing like he always does – whatever his ho tells him to do.

        I’m not worried about Harry being pulled back into the RF. Cowmilla doesn’t want him or Meghan back, so it won’t happen

    • Snaggletooth says:

      She’s not safe there. They have no security commensurate with the threats they face. She and the children literally can’t go imho.

  9. equality says:

    How very kingly and what a diplomat Charles is and a wonderful church leader to be MAYBE able to forgive someone who hasn’t done anything to him.

  10. Harla A Brazen Hussy says:

    While I always support Harry and Meghan’s decisions regarding interactions with his family, I am glad whenever she stays home with the kids while Harry deals with his family. I will say that my heart bleeds for him during this difficult time. To want to visit and support his ill father but knowing that he’s walking into a viper pit takes so much courage and strength, I hope that all he’s learned in therapy will serve him well in the coming days and months.

  11. Harper says:

    I will be uncomfortable the entire time that Harry is on the island and will breathe a sigh of relief when he gets back home. Kate and Will are MIA, and now they’ve lured Harry back. I hope this doesn’t turn into the extended stay funeral edition that happened in September 2022.

  12. Lili says:

    These types of articles are part of the reason she is not eager to come back. Charles is fricking ill and that isn’t enough to stop the nonsense from the media
    the thing is she is wise to their ways and there is no winning for her so she will do what is best for her peace of mind

  13. Miranda says:

    If Meghan chooses this moment to forgive the way that she and her children have been treated and attempt to reconcile, that’s her prerogative. But the angle ought to be “Meghan might cautiously return to the UK and give the RF a second chance they don’t really deserve”.

  14. Amy Bee says:

    The press should leave Meghan out of this. She has decided not to return to the UK and to keep her distance from the Royal Family. People should respect her decision and move on.

  15. CL says:

    Camilla was thrilled to see Harry and Meghan’s children? We all know that’s an out and out lie.

    The bit about Meghan being “cautiously welcomed” is infuriating. Although, if you’re a family of classist racists and a mixed race relative might have the temerity to accompany her husband to see you, causing you to let loose your barely concealed racism, I can see where you might be nervous. 😉

    • Tessa says:

      The same Camilla who did not condemn clarksons vile article about Meghan. Harry as I recall only talked of the queen meeting the children

      • Nerd says:

        I believe that the children only saw the Queen during that visit. They were there for a week and had a birthday party for Lili at the end of that week. The media are the only ones who said that he met the kids, but the timing never made sense. They weren’t in Windsor and went to the church service immediately after this alleged meeting. I can’t imagine Harry and Meghan feeling comfortable enough leaving their children outside of their Frogmore home in Windsor while they are among the vipers. Imagine letting Camilla meet your children away from a safe place like Frogmore Cottage and not fearing she releases photos or their whereabouts to her friends in the media. I don’t buy it. I don’t believe he’s met Lili. This is the grandfather who took their security away and ignored their phone calls immediately after. He’s the grandfather who took away their only home in the UK for no reason.

      • 1960tlm says:

        @Tessa, I believe you’re right. Harry never mentioned that the children met Camilla. I highly doubt it. Only the Queen & Philip. Philip met Archie & used to talk to him via video chat. Harry laughed about Philip hanging up on them all the time without actually knowing how to use the system. The Queen met both of the children when Lili was quite small and Archie bowed to her. Nothing has ever been mentioned about Camilla except that when Harry had returned home she had kicked him out, took his room & made it into a closet, also that she was very dangerous because of her relationships with the press. The British Press lies so much! If their mouths are moving they’re lying!

    • Just Jade says:

      Their racism against Meghan is next level. The king has cancer his son is going to visit but all those RATS want to talk about is how they might cautiously welcome Meghan back. Dear Rats you have already been exposed for your gross ignorance, stupidity, racism and misinformation towards Meghan now it’s time to finally let go of that nonsense.

      • 1069tlm says:

        @Justjade, yes they all need a big dose of Rat poisoning aka a court order to shut them up!

  16. Trix says:

    The thing that never occurs to these hateful morons — maybe she’s actually AFRAID to return, and afraid for her children, given the angry lynch mob of dumb evil Karens and white supremacists the British media has incited for years with the Royal Family’s implicit blessing. If I was Meghan, I would be too nervous someone was going to try to take me out if I returned there.

    • MrsH says:

      @Trix – This! I am nervous about Harry being there myself. One of the Derangers posted his flight details on Twitter last night. I have no idea if it was correct or not and I don’t care except for when I see things like that it makes me more worried for Harry’s safety; especially when we know that the RF have taken away his security. I hope that for this trip Charles did the right thing and is giving him security.

      • 1960tlm says:

        @MRSH, did someone really post his flight information isn’t that against the law? Even airlines are not allowed to do anything that vile. If a deranger did that they definitely should be brought up on charges.

  17. SussexWatcher says:

    Did we actually get confirmation from Harry’s people that he’s coming? I just woke up but as of last night, I’d only seen the tabloids making this claim.

    And, WHERE IS PEGS?! Why isn’t THAT the main story?! The king has cancer and the heir (and heir’s wife) have vanished from the face of the earth. Once again the “spare” is being used to distract and prop up the incompetent and lackluster heir. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    As for the article, this author and the rest of the rats of Britain can kiss my ass. I hope the entire Sussex family – Harry included – stay far, far away from that the Leftover Royals and the whole of Salty Isle. They are not safe there and I wouldn’t trust Pa Chuckles, his mistress bride, or any of their courtiers in any way.

    If he does go, I seriously hope Harry doesn’t eat or drink anything given to him by any royal staffer. And I hope he doesn’t see Pegs at all. Just a quick 24 hours to say hello/goodbye to Chuckles and then he peaces out.

    I’m not surprised in any way that they are begging to see the Sussex children while also shunning Meghan. There are no depths to which those people will not sink in their desperation for clickbait stories. But – if any of this story is even true – I’m glad Meghan and the children will be safe and sound in Montecito.

    Good luck, Harry. Get in and GET OUT.

    • Jay says:

      The one good thing about this is we know he is good at doing just that – get in, get out, take no commemorative photos and then leave the airspace without the rota being told anything.

    • Amy Bee says:

      Harry’s spokesperson has confirmed that he’s going and the Sun published alleged photos of Harry’s car at the LAX.

    • Harper says:

      William, the liege man, hasn’t visited his father throughout his convalesence, so says the Fail. He hasn’t taken his children to see their own grandfather, but it’s Harry dropping everything and flying over. Are they planning to reveal the truth about Kate while Harry is there, then pressure him to stay and maintain a vigil or brand him heartless for going back home in his family’s darkest hour?

  18. Tessa says:

    William drove him out
    Charles is a bad father. I hope harry can keep his distance

  19. Eurydice says:

    Come back and save us, Harry! Save the monarchy and, oh BTW, the British media, too!! All we’ve got left is Camilla in a blue dress.

  20. Maeve says:

    The family have really screwed themselves. It’s at least a decade before the Wales kids can start to step up. Anne is in her 70s and her kids aren’t royal, neither are Princess Margaret’s. The Kents are pretty much retired, the Gloucesters are still pretty active given they’re in their late 70s but the next generation aren’t going to be in the rota. That leaves the York Princesses, who aren’t popular, and the Edinburghs, who aren’t exactly box office. Kate and William aren’t really very good at anything over the bare minimum of smile and wave. The European royals have a cast of attractive young princes and princesses lined up to carry on the work, but the UK has a real “wow” factor missing.

    • Debbie says:

      There’s always Andrew. I hear he’s got time on his hands.

    • BQM says:

      If they needed to go into the ranks Beatrice would be the way to go. She a councilor of state already due to her position. She’s a pretty young woman who enjoys fashion, for better or worse, and could be more interesting in the gossip sections. No coat dresses! People who’ve dealt with her say she’s warm and engaging. No jazz hands there! She has a dapper husband and a young child.

      The BM giveth and taketh. They did it to Meghan. If they wanted to build Beatrice up and make her more popular they easily could.

      This goes for Eugenie too but I don’t think she’s interested. And she’s in Portugal half the time. I mean, she could do what her grandma did I guess. While in Malta, Elizabeth would return and carry out engagements for weeks or even months while Philip was at sea. Then she’d return to Malta. But, again, I think there’s no interest there while there is with Beatrice.

  21. Lulu says:

    No get well wishes from Kate.

  22. KT says:

    Harry is coming home to see his father. He is not coming home to see the monarch. There is a distinction the press need to understand.

    It has been made very clear that Harry and Meghan are not wanted within the Royal family’s official structure. They were, in effect, fired, and have got new jobs. Harry is keeping in touch for personal reasons only; Meghan has no reason to because none of her ex-colleagues liked her.

  23. Becks1 says:

    If Harry is so essential to the monarchy, maybe they should have treated him and his wife and their children better while they WERE full time royals in the UK….or, you know, at any point after that.

    Why do William’s kids need his “constant presence” even though they’re at school all day, but Meghan is supposed to pack up her kids and fly off to the UK to see a family that rejected her from the moment she first appeared, as various RRs have made clear over the years? Archie is in preschool/pre-K at this point and I’m assuming Lili might be in some type of preschool as well. Don’t those children need their routines, their normalcy, their mother?

    Or are those rules only for the white royal grandchildren?

    • JanetDR says:

      Exactly right!

    • Jais says:

      Well, yes those rules are only for the white grandchildren. If Harry and Meghan were still working members they’d be constantly sent on trips and there would be no sympathetic articles about her being a stay at home mom. If she wanted to travel less, she’d be called ungrateful and lazy to a degree that Kate has never been. But really, the BM want Harry to bring Meghan and the kids to visit Charles. And you can bet they would somehow get pictures.

    • SussexWatcher says:

      And their father, Becks! The rationale is that Pegs cannot be seen in public, let alone work, because he has small children. Well, Harry’s children are younger than the Wails children, so by their own logic (I know, I know, they have none), Harry shouldn’t leave Archie and Lili Diana’s sides! No work, no traveling to the UK for emergencies, and certainly no propping up his pathetic brother.

  24. Tessa says:

    No caution with Andrew coming back he never left.

  25. Cel2495 says:

    Yep now they using his father illness to further abuse him and manipulating him trough the papers… these people are disgusting

  26. bisynaptic says:

    These people are bonkers. She’s trying to sell her readers on the idea that, children of this class, who are regularly shipped off to boarding school, as soon as possible, actually need their parents’ “constant presence”.

  27. ThatsNotOkay says:

    No one has anything to say about this disgusting, racist line?

    “And specifically for Harry’s children, who have little relationship to their most incredible and historic lineage.”

    I’m sure Harry’s kids have a full relationship with their MOST incredible and historic lineage—their African ancestry. The literal birthplace of civilization and ingenuity. SMDH

    • SussexWatcher says:

      💯

    • aftershocks says:

      Exactly, and thank you @That’s NotOkay! Truth! 💥

    • Ciotog says:

      They see the true queen, Doria, often.

    • SIde Eye says:

      Boom! Thank you ThatsNotOkay! I wish I could like this comment a million times.

    • Perfectly said! 👏 🙌

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      That is a big BOOM @ThatsNotOkay. H&M’s children will be educated on their historic lineage. Unlike how their cousins have been/will be taught.

      This may not be the right post for it (don’t know what is?). Andrew Holness’s speech reminded me of something. It was there but couldn’t find it at the time. Reaching into the internethers.

      Oddly enough, it was DH that brought up something tonight that clicked my memory whether or not it makes sense. We are currently on watch with my FIL. Alzheimers. Fell down. Currently at the VA hospital. He was also a Triple-A player way back when for the Cubs. DH was discussing FIL’s life and baseball (FIL also tried out to be a kicker for Green Bay). He was in the Army too. Funny basketball stories with famous people. Anyhoo, I found the clip from the movie I was remembering. James Earl Jones-Field of Dreams. “For it’s money they have and peace they like.”. This scares the BRF/BM so much. People are drawn to H&M. For their good. Not bloodlines. Timothy Busfield is essentially the character of a courtier/Will.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SB16il97yw

    • roooth says:

      Their most incredible and historic lineage?

      Yes, they do have a relationship with their amazing lineage! They are American Citizens! And that’s a most incredible and historic lineage – because we are the only nation where everybody comes from somewhere else, and we all have incredible stories of becoming Americans.

      American citizen is the ONLY title they need!!!

  28. Carmen says:

    “Cautious welcome” my ass. I hope she tells them to stick their cautious welcome where the sun don’t shine. Some loony derangers on Twitter are already saying Meghan worked voodoo roots to take out Philip and the Queen, and now she’s made Charles and Kate get sick. These people are batshit crazy.

    • Chantal1 says:

      @Carmen 💯 And Meghan has voodoo roots? Where and since when? Right, bc Cali is the south and all Black people practice voodoo. They can’t help themselves with the racist tropes and ignorance of US geography and history. Someone should slap them with a Bible.

      Interesting that no ones accusing Camilla of witchcraft and doing what they’re accusing Meghan of. Those adulterers C&C did a lot of damage to their beloved monarchy. I mean the social climbing side piece is now being called “the queen” and is still running circles around that entire “royal” family while still trashing Princess Di and her legacy! And now their pals in the BM are trashing the legacies of QEII and Philip. But she’s white so its alright…

    • Debbie says:

      I see it now. Only Meghan is powerful enough to will death on a 100-year-old man whose car keys had to be taken away from him, and a 100-year-old queen with cancer. Now, there she goes again plying her trade on 76-year-old geezer with a family history of cancer, from across an ocean no less. Wow. I wish I knew what these Derangers were smoking.

  29. Sophie says:

    Oh, Maureen is saying this? Richard Eden, I see you! These people are so out of touch, it’s hilarious! Leave Meghan and the kids alone! After all the trauma, I wish Meghan wouldn’t come close to them, as they are all toxic and impossible. BM want Harry, Meghan and the kids because they want ££. Sorry, Harry will not make you happy!

    • Amy Bee says:

      No, it’s columnist Maureen Callahan not Richard Eden who wrote this piece.

      • Sophie says:

        Yes, I know Amy Bee. I’m just referring to that old Twitter row about Eden/Maureen. I think a squadie asked Eden a question, and then Maureen replied, so now there’s this whole joke on there that Eden’s second account is a Maureen…

  30. HeatherC says:

    The last thing anyone undergoing chemo needs is to be surrounded by small children. As cute as they are, they’re also walking petri dishes. There is a reason why Charles announced he wouldn’t be doing public facing duties.

    If William is smart and wants that crown, he’ll arrange lots of play dates of his kids with Charles while he undergoes treatment.

  31. i’m estranged says:

    hello, just want to congratulate everyone who has contributed to this article and the comments on it. my estrangement ftom my mother, father, older sister and her children is hard to hold. many times i’ve weakened and allowed them in and yet no matter how sweet the reunion may be, interactions always devolve because they want me to be the person i am not, the weakest person in the family dynamic, who is celebrated as an empath and reviled as a black sheep, sacrificial lamb, who is supposed to be the sin eater for all. decades have passed since i first made my stand against this narrative, and it. is. so hard to hold the line when things like this happen, but it is literally fighting the patriarchy on the most personal local level and yet here for harry and meghan it is also global. godspeed and all the blessings of the universe to the sussexes. they are amazing and inspirational. i’m teary over this story and the comments here are so supportive and welcome to a person living this scenario. comments like these ease, a bit, the lump in my throat and sternum that is the grief i carry that the situation is so dire i can’t speak to them at all. not one line of an email can i share with them.
    just, thank you all. i’m grateful there’s a place for this discourse. rock on.

    • Sophie says:

      Sending you virtual hugs @estranged! It’s never easy to confront one’s family, but you have the strength and conviction to do so, so I applaud you! Take care xx

    • Jais says:

      Sending you ❤️. Protect your peace.

    • aftershocks says:

      🙌🏽 🫶🏽 Wishing you peace and continued strength @I’m Estranged. Your perseverance surely reaps rewards for your mental health!

      Misan Harriman recently posted the below, anonymous quote, which is powerfully apt and impactful!

      “The peace I feel without your presence in my life is worth being the villain in your story.”

      💪✌🏽🤜🏽

    • Meghan says:

      Same. And trying to navigate barely functional abusers and abusers by proxy as their health fails. And no matter what you do or don’t do there is no right choice. But I’m with you. Down with the patriarchy! Vive la resistance!

    • Lady D says:

      @i’m estranged. May the rest of your journey be kinder and I hope you find your family.

      • aftershocks says:

        Oh exactly, @Lady D! I also hope this for @I’m Estranged. 🫂

        Our dear Madam Duchess Meghan once shared these wise words on her original IG account: “Find Your Tribe! Love Them Hard❣️”

    • ChattyCath says:

      I’m the same. They all read ‘how to be a toxic family’. The justification is the same. Meghan does voodoo, the mildest is that Meghan plans to take advantage of poor sick Kate the Saint. They haven’t yet dropped the ‘fake babies’’ Line.

    • Thank you for sharing this Estranged, peace and love to you ❤️

    • Lulu says:

      Oh man, you all are breaking my heart. I’m so sorry you each have had to live with an abusive family. I cannot imagine the pain growing up in a toxic family. I admire your strength, and best to all of you.

    • Tym123 says:

      @ I’m estranged…blessings to you…some people feel you have to put up with mental abuse because they’re family…I say do what’s best for your mental health …I have cut family members out of my life and I sleep well because of it..some people refuse to change.

    • BeanieBean says:

      😢 Much love and strength to you. You are not alone here.

    • The Old Chick says:

      Congratulations on your resolve. I’m too estranged from 3 sibs. I’ve been the ‘better person’ for decades and now I’m done with that. My parents died decades ago so there’s nothing re them. But unfortunately holding ground means losing contact with my nieces and nephews. Sad but it’s still healthier. I don’t miss my siblings at all. People who don’t have toxic relatives truly have no idea. That’s why the constant ‘brothers must make up’ bs narrative is not only ignorant, it’s asking for abuse to be perpetuated which makes those people toxic too.

  32. Renae says:

    Wow! This is singlehandedly bringing back the ‘sob sister’ style of reporting of the 1940’s and 50’s.
    Harry, Archie and Lili were not missed or needed for how long…but suddenly they are? What? Why? So the Crown can claim them?
    Meghan and the kids can stay happily in California and Harry can visit (he’s already there per the tabs).
    Cancer sucks for anyone.It slaps you upside the head. Charles is only 2 years older than I and I’ve had cancer for a year now. Guess that ‘anointed by god’ thing doesn’t have much mojo and makes Charles just a mortal like the rest of us.

  33. Brassy Rebel says:

    William’s three children are no longer all that “small” and they certainly do not require their father’s “constant presence” and never did. What is Tominey smoking?

    • Brassy Rebel says:

      Callahan, not Tominey. They’re all unhinged, in any case.

    • sarah says:

      “three small children who need his constant presence”

      they go to school and have nannies! ? !

      My youngest two are the same age as George and Charlotte and they would certainly not appreciate being considered “small.” And they do not need a constant presence. just more evidence that this is fantasy

  34. Over it says:

    What were Charles words again about balmoral? Don’t bring that woman I think he said. Well Meghan is still that woman so anyone who expects her to drop her life and her mental peace and safety and fly off to go see a man that cares nothing about her can go f themselves. Meghan children are still the same kids who a few weeks ago were being abused for carrying the queen nickname. The same baby when born was referred to as a monkey. Yet. This ever loving grandpa of theirs did absolutely nothing to stop the hateful behavior being directed towards them .Nothing,he did absolutely nothing. He took away their home in the uk and he had zero need to do it because he has so many. However he did it out of spite. So yes, Harry can visit him. That’s Harry father but Meghan and her children owe Charles and the rest of that toxic family absolutely nothing. F um.

  35. Lau says:

    Isn’t Archie in age to be at school anyway ? Do they expect the Sussexes to take them off school and rush to the UK when the Wales children haven’t even been taken to the hospital to see their mother and they use the school-run excuse like once every two days ?

    • The Old Chick says:

      He’s 4 so he’s in some kind or pre school. There were pics /stories of him going to preschool when he was just 3 I think. He’s 5 in May.

  36. Bad Janet says:

    This article by the Mail exists for one reason: to attempt to convince the public that she would have been welcomed back, which is a lie based on objective reality since the papers still trash her every day and Charles took away their home. Once the stupid people believe it, they can use it as an excuse to say she should have come back and is an evil witch for not supporting her husband right now, for not visiting her father in law while he fights for his life, and for withholding his beloved grandchildren whom he never visits from him. It’s a transparent set up, but it’s still going to work, and it’s pathetic.

  37. Bad Janet says:

    This article by the Mail exists for one reason: to attempt to convince the public that she would have been welcomed back, which is a lie based on objective reality since the papers still trash her every day and Charles took away their home. Once the stupid people believe it, they can use it as an excuse to say she should have come back and is an evil witch for not supporting her husband right now, for not visiting her father in law while he fights for his life, and for withholding his beloved grandchildren whom he never visits from him. It’s a transparent set up, but it’s still going to work, and it’s pathetic.

  38. MrsH says:

    The world needs an investigative journalist to dig into the troubling issue of William. For years we have heard plenty of little drips making it clear how completely and utterly incompetent he is and show that in no way shape or form he should be king. He “needs” Harry to help him, the monarchy “needs” Harry to help him are lines that were used even before Meghan. Why?? Incandescent rage, laziness, stupidity – that is all things we know but what is more troubling under that level that there was an expectation that Harry be the support that William needed. I never ever heard anyone talk of Andrew this way when him and Charles were growing up. What more is wrong with William.

  39. blue says:

    I doubt Will is attending his wife while the kids are at school & Nanny Maria is there. Maybe Grandma Mid is too.
    I wonder what Will does all day? Long lunches & afternoon delights?

    • ChattyCath says:

      These people don’t even make a coffee for themselves. The old Duke of Gloucester nearly suffered serious injury when a log fell out of the fire. He rand the bell and the footman said he would have burned to death because doing something about it was beneath him.

  40. Feebee says:

    Wow, that was something else. Lots of Harry and the children. Side note: oh yeah maybe even Meghan too.

    Like why is it so easy for them to disconnect M and her children when apparently the Wales kids will collapse if mummy & daddy aren’t there 24/7?

    • QuiteContrary says:

      I’m guessing, Feebee, that your question is rhetorical, but I’ll answer it anyway: Because Meghan is Black, so her importance to everyone, including to her own children, is devalued by these racist monsters.

      “Cautiously welcomed …” go screw yourself, Maureen.

      I hope Meghan remains safe at home, with her beautiful children, who undoubtedly adore her and rely on her. (And good point, Feebee, about the Wales kids.)

  41. honeychild says:

    Doing what by himself? There are plenty of royals living off the public pound who are available to attend the next ribbon cutting. I prefer H&M away from all that bs.

  42. SCAR❤️❤️❤️❤️ says:

    Whenever it is ‘reported’ William needs help, as he has three young children. They always seem to forget Harry has two even younger children.

  43. JaneS says:

    Meghan has no reason to go to the UK.
    Unless she chooses to. Totally up to her.

    H&M do not have to do anything. Unless they want to.
    Just like lots of people with horrid in-laws IRL. Personal, private choice.

    The PR will always find way to post about H&M.

  44. Truthiness says:

    Of course the media want Harry within easy reach. To sucker punch. They want their whipping post back just to make content.

    Dangling the notion of Meghan coming too is too cruel to think about.

  45. Caribbean says:

    Also, Meghan is a very smart woman (and that is what the media and RF hate so much) and she will also make decisions that are best for herself and her children.

  46. JudyB says:

    I can’t imagine ever going someplace, especially with two toddlers, where I might be cautiously welcomed.” If the royal family, especially Charles and Camilla, cannot graciously and enthusiastically welcome her back, she should stay home.

  47. Not an Expert says:

    I think they called Harry back because the leaks are about to happen and they needed him to blame. Poor baby came because he’s a good person, and now Camilla and her minions can spill all they want and it will all be Harry’s fault. Because of course you can’t tell him or that woman ANYTHING.

  48. JR McGraw says:

    “….specifically for Harry’s children, who have little relationship to their most incredible and historic lineage.”

    The temerity, the UNMITIGATED GALL of all these crown critters to constantly insinuate that Harry’s children are DEPRIVED living away from that gloomy racist island and its media cesspool. What part of “my family is NOT SAFE” here do they not comprehend?

    And also why would a decent parent value maintaining their connection to a hereditary system and “royalty” over being happy, healthy, well-adjusted kids? They act like it’s this unbelievable blessing that they are throwing away, when growing up royal looks like child abuse to the rest of us. Just a blinkered, brainwashed group

  49. AC says:

    I think HM made the best decision for M and their children to safely stay home in CA. I don’t blame them either esp how badly they have been treated(and derangers should be reminded of the numerous child harassment they’ve Publicly said about 2 American minors-both private citizens living on US soil).
    Who are they kidding . The desperation the BM and the BRF have, as they know they Lost their glory days on the World Stage.

  50. Saucy&Sassy says:

    Well, you gotta hand it to the bm. They never pass up an opportunity to show how racist they are. They don’t care of about Meghan and the kids. They want photos, so that they’ll make lots of money. They’ll be able to write more articles about how horrible all three of them are. That’s it. This is so obvious.