One of the things driving me crazy about the British media’s current unethical journalism is that they constantly claim that they’re being briefed by “sources close to Prince Harry” when it’s clear that they’re being briefed by Buckingham Palace and Kensington Palace. Remember when there was wall-to-wall reporting about Harry calling his father on King Charles’s birthday last year? That came from KP, not the Sussexes. Initially, I thought it came from BP, but no, some royal reporter recently confessed that it was coming from William’s office. So it is with the current fiction, that Harry wants to “come back” to the UK temporarily to help out dear old dad. This did not come from “sources close to Harry.” This whole story came from Buckingham Palace. They did it to poke Prince William and they did it so that they could once again create a cycle of “we hate Harry, he’s the worse!” Speaking of, Tom Sykes’s sources claim that Charles and William would NEVER allow Harry to come back.
Rumors of Prince Harry’s potential return to royal duties were unequivocally crushed Monday morning, with sources telling The Daily Beast that the king and his older son, Prince William were “totally united” on the issue and there was “no way” they would “re-royal” Harry.
The pushback came after Harry’s team last week floated in the London Times the notion that he could step back into a part-time royal position, helping out with royal jobs while his father is battling cancer. The prince was said to have told friends he would be happy to “step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”
However King Charles’ camp have made it clear the offer has been unilaterally dismissed, and that Charles and his heir are unified on the issue, and that his younger son should not return to representing the family in any official capacity, having traduced them in a number of TV shows and his memoir, Spare.
A friend of the family’s told The Daily Beast: “William and his father are totally united on this. There is no way they are going to re-royal Harry after what he has said.”
Asked if there was a difference of opinion between Charles and William on the Harry issue, and it was accurate to say that the king wanted to rebuild the personal relationship with Harry, the friend would only say: “The king loves both his sons very much and was delighted to see Harry the other day, and of course, he wants to see more of him.”
Charles’ camp have made it clear that the king continues to build bridges with Harry, as evidenced by his 30-minute meeting with Harry earlier this month in the immediate wake of his cancer diagnosis. However, that doesn’t mean Harry will soon be back on the balcony of Buckingham Palace waving at the crowds.
According to a report in the Daily Mail, by the paper’s respected royal reporter, Rebecca English, sources close to the monarchy have asserted that the king holds the view that Prince Harry’s return as a part-time working royal is out of the question. The king’s camp appear to have briefed that the king is “firmly of the opinion” there is no way back for Harry as a working royal “in any way, shape or form.”
This is how palace courtiers spend their days, starting rumors about Harry so they can deny those rumors and bash Harry. That is one thing which unites William and Charles, the one thing they can agree on, that if they’re trying to deflect or hide something, start a rumor about Harry. That being said, I agree with a lot of commenters, that this whole storyline was about Charles telling William to get off his ass and do some work or else Charles will ask Harry to come back. I also think that Sykes’ “friend of the family” is just the same William-centric source who is constantly making William sound like a psychopathic nutjob.
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Why on gods green earth has no one explained to any of these people in words of 1 syllable so they understand that saying nothing is ALWAYS an option???
Isn’t their whole motto “never explain, never complain”? they seem to be failing at it spectacularly.
Well.. that was always the facade, but The Firm always sent stories out. They were just less obvious, smarter and less focused on one, single person. Phillip was a lot of bad things, dumb was not one of them. Once he died, the whole Firm went down the toilet.
When are they going to stop trying to make “fetch” happen? Harry is never coming back and he has made that clear. Harry had the courage to go on the record whereas the rest of them whisper to the obedient royal rota.
William has mastered the old mantra of “how to influence friends and lose people.” Obviously he is in a downward spiral and all the poking, gossiping in the world will not save him from himself. There is just nothing there to save. He is just a nasty, envious jealousy man who is lead by his desires.
Someone needs to explain to William that tomorrow isn’t promised. Especially, in THAT family.
I must admit I’m always surprised how toxic William is. Not a good look for a future king.
Downward spiral is a good way to phrase it. It’s kind of wild that it seems like it’s getting exponentially worse everyday. Was Harry leaving the thing that tipped Pegs over the edge? The queen dying? Just general deterioration of his state of mind?
After what harry has said.charkes and William are a pair of self righteous hypocrites. Charles who slammed his own parents. And William who punched his brother and uses the media to trash his brother. Charles has the heir he richly deserves.
There is no need to “re-royal” PH. He is STILL royal, the same as Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice, because they are grandchildren of a former Queen. They are making it look more and more like the meeting with KC was about Charles wanting PH to do some stuff and PH saying, “no thanks, I’m busy”. This is like when H&M left and they wanted to turn it around to “we didn’t want them and kicked them out”. I can imagine that any offer they made, once again, snubbed Meghan.
Exactly. Since no one can be “unroyalled”, there is no need to “reroyal” anybody. Do the royal sycophants not understand the meaning of the word “royal”?
Yeah that’s kind of the entire concept of ” royalty” either you are or you aren’t. I also think that Charles probably asked Harry to come back in some capacity and he said no. Charles absolutely knows what’s going on behind the scenes, and this reaction from this past weekend seems like sour grapes after the success, warm welcome and good press that the Sussexes received in Canada, and Harry’s at the NFL awards.That’s why they kept trying to make Charles part of their news cycle. He knows his heir isn’t and doesn’t want to be up for the “job”, and the only time he gets a lot of social media and press attention is when he says something horrendous.
As @Kaiser so eloquently stated “either they all have magic blood, or none of them do”.
Isn’t that why they’ve made working royal a thing? It should really be whether to make him a re-working royal. Bc yeah he’s still royal. And working royal is really just a job. It’s a job and people leave jobs. That’s all it is.
IIRC they started using working royals to limit who’s on that balcony. One should think they get a gold bar for each appearance the way they keep harping about it.
Well, I hope there’s reporting ever again on Harry working as a royal! YAY! Harry was just too polite to tell the reporter the other day that the kfc and eggplant prince and go fck themselves.
Yes! PH was being polite and agreeable and getting past those questions so he could bring attention to IG.
This fight is so one sided. It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
And being funded by the taxpayer.
Word.
The “media” really is just filling space. On and on about nothing.
Does anyone else think about how all this plays out.
What is William in 10 years?
More angry?
More divorced?
Like a d list celebrity people avoid being associated with?
Still raging about Harry?
Attacking Harry’s teenage children through “sources”
Do his kids hate him?
Does video ever catch him in a rage hurling objects and cursing?
It all just seems like a downward spiral.
With no bottom.
Maybe in ten years we’ll finally know where Kate is.
Right. We are barely past year 1 of Charles’ reign (and it feels like William is really off the rails since Pa took over). How long can this go on?
What I am asking me where is the British taxpayer in ten years? Will they have found their French side and get rid of the monarchy? Or at least Skandinavien and control the monarch and his finances in their interest?
Yes, I’ve thought about this a bit. Anne and Edward will be completely retired. Kate will be out of the picture for any of a number of reasons. The Wales kids will have both read Spare and listened to the audiobook. They will also have met up with their Sussex cousins online and possibly irl — out of the public eye. The slimmed-down monarchy will be almost entirely focused on William — and he will crack. There will be serious efforts to remove the clearly useless monarchy.
Andrew will be ensconced on an island somewhere. I don’t have a vision for Sophie though. Propping up William? Paid to be on numerous boards? Enjoying a quiet life as a granny? Dunno.
All of this is completely made up — of course, but I do think about how this horror show might play out.
Now that you wrote it, I think the second part of Spare is kept for A&L teenage years- once BRF tries to use them to deflect, they will be reminded there are still stories to tell.
Yeah, no, there’s no way Harry’s team floated the idea that he wanted to return as a working royal. As if Harry’s team just floated that idea to Kate Mansey at the London Times, the same woman who wrote an article about Harry’s security that Harry himself called libelous and was going to sue over until it became clear the judge considered it an opinion rather than libel. So Harry considered her opinion purposely malicious and yet that’s who his team chose to float information to? Bullshit.
Well I agree that Harry should not return in any capacity. There is nothing for him to do there.
Has anyone seen the Channelling Diana tic tock video of a Diana look a like with a drink in her hand telling William he should apologise to Harry .
I don’t know who she is but it is up on a Sussex supporters Instagram page .
It is hilarious and so spot on ,the way she talks ,as if it is actually Diana really talking and chastising William .
I did. It was golden! It’s the first thing that comes up in the “top” section under #PrinceOfPegging. The user name is @gimidiwine
How clever is it Steph, you can just imagine Diana talking to him .
Hope she does some more ,it is so nice to see someone telling the truth ,
If so @Steph, that video is not there anymore. I can’t find it on TikTok. 🤷🏽♀️
Here’s the link: https://twitter.com/Gimidiwine/status/1758155038420009248
Good call guys. William has been crushing it this year. *holding my Sarcasm sign*
Harry will always be Prince Harry whether he chooses to use it or not. He made things clear a while ago. He is fine and moving forward. There is no help for Chuckles of Peg .
What about his kids? Will they always be known as Prince Archie and Princess Lili? 🤔
But what would happen when he gets us citizenship? Would be giving up his titels necessary to get it?
Eww, If this is the mindset that the RF and the “king” have at this hour of his sickly life then there is no hope. Glad Harry got away.
I thought the whole “royalty” schtick is that God himself had anointed some guy as divinely endowed to rule. Then all the following members of the lucky sperm club were the inheritors of this magical choice. So, KC can disown his progeny (like any old crass peasant could do) and deny him fancy hats and £s; but to “un-royal” one seems to question God’s pick of the most favored DNA. Which, isn’t everyone at this point? This bunch of dimbulbs are clearly not superior nor even useful. Their irrelevance is showing.
Perfectly said.
Someone should pass this on to the GBN talking head that last week was pleading with Harry to dump Meghan and bring his two “gorgeous children” back to get to know their grandfather, and grow up with their cousins. And for Harry to return to his royal duties in support of the King. They keep ignoring the fact that the King has repeatedly made it known that he doesn’t give a flying fig about his grandchildren. He made sure that they have no home and no security.
I mean to tell Harry to break up his perfectly happy marriage and life, to return to that hell hole to continue to be used and abused. These people are the definition of insanity.
They just want the kids there to hate on for being norn in the first place. Imagine that, salivating over the chance to hate on children. Do they want to seat the kids in the back of the bus? House them in servants quarters? make them wear the Wales kids hand-me-downs? Make them the “whipping boy/girl” for the Walese kids?
These people are disgusting. They should be on a watch list.
I’m a bit out of the loop but, can someone point me to the SOURCE where Harry is quoted saying he would go back to help his father? I can believe Harry will come back and visit as often as he can but, I just don’t believe he would put himself back into the lions den.
As for the re-royal nonsense. Who writes this crape? Harry is ROYAL. His grandmother was THE queen, not some married-in with a fancy title. His father is the king, his brother the heir, his nephew a future king. In my world that makes him as royal as it gets.
In other words. Same sh*t, different day!
He never said that. The British tabloids just keep saying he did.
God this weapon in the British media’s arsenal is getting old and obvious.
Let’s make up a story about Harry and/or Meghan and make like it’s coming from them, even though they’ve never suggested such a thing and/or have publicly said that’s not happening, and incite the angry dumb mouth-breathing racist Karens and white supremacists all over again.
Then let’s have stories saying that will NEVER, EVER happen because Charles and William would never allow it, Harry and Meghan will never be forgiven, they are desperate failures and they can wallow in their misery and failure.
Even though they made up the original story to begin with!
Agree with others – no way did Harry float the idea of returning to even part time royal work.
What I do think its possible is that Charles may have mentioned it, Harry said “no thanks, I’m good”, and then this is other charles trying to save face by telling Harry it will never happen, or William got wind of the idea and is also trying to shut it down.
Or, this is Charles essentially telling William – if you don’t get up off your ass and work, then I’m going to have to bring Harry back (not that Harry would allow himself to be “brought,” but Charles can try.)
So basically I don’t think this is just the press making things up out of thin air, but I can’t tell if there is some truth to the idea that this was discussed (with Harry saying no), or if this is just Charles trying to get William up and going.
Ah so Charlie has found he can use Harry as a cattle prod to shove up Williams arse and get him moving. How bloody pathetic do they all look.
Harry loves his wife, his children, America and his freedom from the crypt keepers. Every time see a story like this all I can think of is, one, the rest of the world can see how petty and pitiable the British Royals are, TWO, how it’s reverted back to the days Diana where the men in grey rule each house, along with their tame paps.
THREE camzilla is sat back laughing her fk ugly face off at the fall of the Windsors,
FOUR, when the hell did harry ever say he wanted back part time or otherwise, and finally five I can hear lizzy in her crypt shouting to Phil in his, Phillip, Phillip, what the fk have did we create, their all fuckwits in the palaces
I just cracked myself up reading this in Baron’ s voice, the Queen calling Pheelip!
@Becks1 I think both could be true. C-Rex reacting to Harry’s rejection of working for him in typical abusive fashion aligning with his co-abusers while also being perfectly fine with using Harry to “motivate” the lazy heir.
First of all….Harry doesn’t need re-royalling. He will be Prince Harry even if they are foolish enough to pursue the “take the titles route.”
I actually think that this is all William…he is very scared of the possible improvement in the Charles/Harry relationship.
This is just his public tantrum. Poor William and poor Tom Sykes…history will not be kind to them.
Charles and William are the abusive boyfriend who got dumped, but keeps telling everyone that he would never take his GF back…
In order to re-royal someone they would have to be de-royal’ed in the first place, did someone recently invent how to remove paternal DNA from a human?
I’ve read and re read ‘Spare’. Still can’t find any abuse or traducing the ‘Royals’. The media keep re reporting this. Each time it’s passed on more embellishment and opinion. Re Royal is the most ridiculous thing said. Harry will always be the son of The King then the brother of the King. I get the feeling that bit by bit the truth concerning the Royal Rage is leaking out, of course it’ll be a ‘breakdown’ all due to Harry and Meghan. Poor William. Think of the flowers placed outside his alleged ‘clinic’. I discovered that there is a private psych hospital not far that takes one patient at a time.
You know. It just occurred to me that the BRF, namely Charles and William, have to keep up the facade that Harry wants back in. They “have to” because wanting back end symbolizes not only something of great value but that something of great value is at stake, is at loss and/or forbidden to him. If not that, then what has Harry walked away from? If Harry & Meghan can become rich/super rich/wealthy on their own, in modern times, what has Harry really walked away from by leaving his “job” within the firm? Not 💩 but a fossilized institution and a tyrannical, rigid, petulant older brother & an emotionally damaged father as “bosses” and the sycophants who run the joint. Harry wasn’t going to inherit the lion’s share of anything. So, it wasn’t like a promotion was coming. Moreover, he’s still and will be forever recognized as Prince Harry even if stripped of his titles. On the maternal side, he’ll always be associated with a long line of aristocrats albeit poor-ish and shabby (Earl Spencer 👀) and, on his paternal side, he’ll always be associated with QEII, his father, and his brother. He has nothing to loss there. So, they try to damage his name, his reputation, and his motives on one front then try to hold the monarchy out as having this supernova like value on the other. For ordinary people and even aristos (I bet), the ROI on the BRF is both waning & diminishing.
I love this insightful take on why the abusive briefing from the royals towards the Sussexes seems to be unrelenting and never ending. It’s literally about saving their own asses from the stench of shame that would never leave them if the public narrative in the press actually reflects the truth of the situation. Problem is, this outdated Edwardian tactic was and is totally unnecessary in the 21st century. They could have let Harry go in peace and publicly supported his choice so as to make it seem like there’s actually no bad blood and nothing to see here. I’m willing to bet not a single interview or book or tv series would have been released by Harry and Meghan critiquing the royals if the entire institution had just taken the higher road and appeared conciliatory and supportive in public. Things like taking away funding and security too early, hanging them out to dry is just so incredibly shortsighted. I really wonder if things would have been any different if QEII had been 10 years younger and Philip was still involved in decision-making. I guess we’ll never know…
I think things really started going off the rails when Philip retired and Charles and Andrew pushed out QEIIs private secretary for Edward Young. I don’t know how much would’ve changed but I think if Harry and Meghan would have gotten married in 2015/2016 things probably would’ve been slightly different. I think at least the press briefing from KP would’ve been crushed in the beginning.
^^ Hmm, but in the end, the same state of affairs would exist, because ultimately wimpy, needy Chuck and his horrid courtiers, plus jealous Willy and his handlers (along with jealous Khate & the messy Middletons/ Uncle G), not to mention Camzilla and her selfish machinations, would all have held sway. 😳
Harry doesn’t want to come back and the Palace knows this so all this outrage from William and Charles is performative.
Just from a practical standpoint, even if Harry wanted to come back and help when would he have time? Invictus is next year, I’m sure he has tons of events and interviews associated with that. Meghan will be super busy developing her new podcast and the Netflix projects. Plus the lawsuits, Travelyst, Better Up and who knows what else. And they have two children to raise. But the most important thing is that Harry’s psyche has changed, he sees himself differently now and not just as a tool of the monarchy. Going back would never work, even temporarily. When he went back for the coronation he got out of there as soon as possible because he has no life there anymore, at least not with the RF.
I don’t know who the hell KC and PW think they are but they ain’t it. They or at least their people – whoever’s driving all this nonsense – are also just temporary cogs in this archaic system they choose to uphold for whatever reason. Control probably. They’re really not that special.
Either way, there is no “un-royal”ing of Prince Harry. He just decided to leave the Muppet Show portion of his life.
Untied, are they? When is the last time Chuck met with Bill? I know they went to church on Christmas, anything else?
Why would he want to be sucked back into that coercive control vortex? He’s probably enjoying having control of his life.
First of all neither of these billionaire welfare recipients is God and therefore neither of them have the power to make Harry no longer a royal. He is born into this family of royalty and will forever be a royal. His titles and work status within that dysfunctional family will not change what God has done. Secondly, Harry has said before Meghan and countless interviews since leaving that place that he has no plans or hopes of returning as a working royal. He hopes that his trash father and brother will stop being horrible family members to him, his wife and his children but other than that he has no plans of returning as a working royal so it doesn’t matter what Charles or William want or think. There is also no friends of Harry’s floating any ideas of a return to being a working royal, especially to any paper associated with the people he’s suing. He said that he would hopefully visit with family during any “planned trips through or to the UK”. Nowhere did he say anything about working for the family in the UK and it wouldn’t make sense for him to say one thing and at the same time have friends say something entirely different to an enemy tabloid.
Wow! Harry’s rejection of the monarchy really hurt the RF and BM bad, didn’t it? Sorry, kids. Harry is the one that got away. He will be there as needed as a family member but his royal days are over. He made that quite clear when he released his memoir. He’s got a smoking hot wife, cute kids, a beautiful home and control over his own finances and schedule. What’s in England? There’s no home but he can use a crumbling, rodent infested apartment I’m sure. He wouldn’t be able to do any engagements without W’s approval and he certainly couldn’t do more (by the way, how does one do less than the Wails?).
Instead of these speculative opinion pieces, how about they tell us about the royal family member who has been missing for the last two months? Surely, they have their cover story worked out by now about how a seemingly healthy woman was taken out of commission by a mysterious alleged abdominal ailment?
“Traduced” you say? How overwrought! And how childish do two grown men, one middle, -aged, one senior, plotting against someone who is happy, successful, and impactful without them look to the rest of the sensible, thinking, and logical minded world? So pathetic to be so inadequate while being chosen by God. Wonder how God feels? Surely, sorely disappointed.
I’d love to meet the comms/PR genius who thinks this narrative makes William look good. Especially in light of his ongoing issues on the homefront…whatever they may be.
“According to a report in the Daily Mail, by the paper’s respected royal reporter, Rebecca English, …”
That, right there, is why none of this should be taken seriously.
Thou doth protest too much – William is in for a rude awakening when he finally ascends the throne.
In all probability one of his three Wailses will have a similar relationship with him that Harry has with Chuckles and the other two will be looking for the nearest exit.
Also by that point support for the Monarchy will be at an all time low.
The monarchy is a curse at this point. Sure you have access to wealth and musty old castles but is that worth it to have to pretend to be something you aren’t? The working royals are essentially zoo animals at this point. We like to look at them and laugh at how similar to us they act. The rest of the time they stay behind locked walls. Harry wasn’t lying when he said that they are trapped.
Watching the duo British Media / the firm is like watching a venomous snake bite its own tail. Fascinating to watch.
All the rota and palaces have now is this reoccurring absurd insistence that Harry wants to “come back”, so that they can then make hysterical proclamations about how they’ll never allow it.
Meanwhile Harry is living his best life far away from their dilapidated Firm.