King Constantine of Greece passed away in January 2023. King Charles did not attend his friend and cousin’s funeral in Athens, and neither did Constantine’s godson Prince William. Charles and William both sent family members in their place (Princess Anne and Lady Gabriella Windsor). While I understood why Charles skipped the funeral (he didn’t want his first overseas trip as king to be a family funeral in Greece), there was never any reason given for why William was too lazy to attend his godfather’s funeral. Then, last week, we heard that Charles would also skip the memorial service for Constantine, which is being held today in Windsor. Charles’s absence once again makes sense – he’s being treated for cancer, he needs his rest, etc. I wondered aloud last week if Prince William would once again skip out on showing his respect for his godfather. Well, it looks like William was scheduled to appear at the memorial… but now he’s pulled out, citing a “personal matter.”
The Prince of Wales has pulled out of attending a memorial service at Windsor Castle for Constantine, the former king of Greece, due to a personal matter.
Kensington Palace would not elaborate further but said the Princess of Wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, continued to be doing well.
William, who was due to deliver a reading, called the former king’s family who are attending the service in St George’s Chapel to let them know he was unable to attend.
Constantine II of Greece, who died in January last year, was William’s godfather.
Kate is away from official royal engagements until after Easter following major surgery in January. King Charles is also missing the service as he continues treatment for an undisclosed form of cancer. Charles was close to his second cousin, the former Greek monarch.
“A personal matter” could be anything. If it was about the fakakta school run, they would have said that, that William has too much on his plate because he’s a father. It sounds more like William couldn’t crawl out of a bottle in time to look sober-ish for a memorial service. What’s weird is that I was under the impression that the memorial service is private, as in, it won’t be televised, it’s for extended family and friends. William couldn’t handle being around HIS family, away from the cameras. It’s definitely weird. He can attend the BAFTAs and an air ambulance gala but not his godfather’s memorial service?
Meanwhile, Prince Andrew, Sarah Ferguson and their daughters are attending the service. They’re explaining Andrew’s presence as “it’s a private family event,” plus the Greek royals invited him. Queen Camilla will play hostess at a reception in Windsor Castle after the service, but Charles will not attend (Charles left Windsor before the service). Just… weird.
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Another day, another bender? And IT’S IN WINDSOR. How lazy do you have to be?
Everyone who is anyone is there, not only from the RF (Anne, husband and kids; the Yorks; the Gloucesters…) but also the King and Queen of Spain…and Penny Mountbatten…it looks quite strange for Will not to be there unless he is actively avoiding his family and other royals/aristos…
I have a hard time following all these English locations but does Will live at/near Windsor (at least officially)?
I think his official lodgings is still Kensington Palace, considering local residents were complaining about his helicopter coming and going every single day, but who honestly knows anymore?
I’m gonna Amersplain this which means I don’t know what I’m talking about so don’t quote me. I think the Windsor royal lodgings are basically a community sized estate in a bigger Windsor (town, neighborhood, city, state idk). But they are all close enough together that commute really shouldn’t play into whether or not an event is attended.
Adelaide cottage is walking distance from the chapel at Windsor castle.
Adelaide Cottage is on the Windsor grounds.
Their office is based at Kensington Palace, but supposedly William and Kate and the kids live full time at Adelaide, which is on the Windsor grounds, walking distance to the castle.
Windsor Castle is on a large estate/park but is also very much part of the town of Windsor.
Mmmkay so what I’m getting here is that William could practically see the service from his back window and still refused to come? Obviously if he’s actually somewhere else they would never admit it. But this is what the press is asking us to believe? Am I missing something??
Windsor is just outside London – many people commute into London daily from there (it’s about 35 minutes by train) and it’s near Heathrow Airport. So PW could easily have made it.
Thomas Kingston has died suddenly. The news was embargoed until after the service for King Constantine was over. William & Thomas were friends. Thomas was married to Lady Gabriella Kingston nee’ Windsor. The daughter of Prince & Princess Micheal of Kent. Prior to his marriage he dated Kate’s sister Pippa. Very likely this is why he pulled out of the Memorial service at the last minute.
@Juliane William couldn’t come but Thomas’ mother and father in law could? I’m sure that was devastating news but I don’t think that’s why he didn’t come.
the Royal Rota ALL made statements that ‘The Prince of Wales’s absence from the Windsor service was not connected to Mr Kingston’s death’ which is again super strange
The king of Spain is Constantine’s nephew – Queen Sofia is his sister. His widow Ann-Marie is the sister of Margrethe of Denmark. He was a very well loved member of the the extended European royal family so this is going to raise major eyebrows.
Add a pair of raised eybrows from Max Foster (royal asskisser) on CNN covering it as breaking news. He says his sources insisted that the personal issue is not related to Kate, who is doing bettet by the day but won’t work till at least Easter. His source also says it has nothing to do with KC’s health either and that Peg actually phoned in his non- attandance to the family at the last minute.
Bully doesn’t live in Adelaide cottage. C’mon it’s commonsense. Why wd the HEIR be downgraded to a 4 bedroom cottage. Did chucks as heor, ever live in reduced circumstances? No.
Adelaide is kitty’s separation house.
I do like the non-sinister theory that Kate’s absence is about divorce negotiations: getting a better house than Adelaide Cottage. The other explanations are increasingly worrisome.
@kingston you know that, and every reader here knows that but the world at large has most certainly been told that’s where they live AND where Kate is recovering right? And he’s waiting on her hand and foot so he should be there.
I think any of us with common sense know that the media and the royals are lying when they say that he is living there with his wife and three kids. The media basically spilled the tea once when they said that Will and Kate sleep in separate bedrooms. In a four bedroom house, with five family members. It isn’t feasible and doesn’t make sense. As you said, people have reported his late night returns to KP by helicopter. They have arrived separately at the same event too many times for them not to be living separately.
So it’s in Windsor and Peg can’t get himself there? What a lazy substance using waste of skin. His own godfather. Wow the press was all over the Sussexes for not naming the god parents to Archie but they don’t make a stink about Peg not attending his own godfathers memorial and at Windsor no less. That tracks. What a “king “ he will make. King Willam thee Invisible.
Yup. He supposedly lives there, was scheduled to go, and now pulled out of a memorial service for his godfather. It does track. Unfortunately, he won’t be invisible, just absent.
@Susan, he also used to regularly skip the pre-BAFTAs cocktail reception which was held AT Kensington Palace *when he and Kate lived there* full-time. His laziness knows no bounds.
Back in 2008 my mom was going through breast cancer treatments. Even with the various support remedies, it was still hard on her. In addition to that, my dad’s brain functioning was slowly reducing from TIA strokes. So it was a very hard year for them and me as their part time caregiver (with a brutal full time job).
My mom’s sister passed away in the midst of this and we drove 8 hours to get to her town. Spent the night in a hotel, went to the funeral service and family luncheon, and then drove back 8 hours.
But sure, William can’t pop over to his godfather’s memorial which is practically in William’s backyard.
Just when I think I can’t loathe William any harder…
@BlueNailsBetty, here’s lots of cyber big bear hugs from me to you. I know it was 2008 and time heals all wounds and all that, but TBH the pain never goes away, we just learn to live with it. God bless you my cyber friend.
My heart goes out to you. You’re a loving person and your family and friends love you in return.
What a strong and compassionate person you are! That must have been exhausting to navigate! I agree with you that there are some things we show up for unless we absolutely cannot. Last weekend I drove 11 hours both ways to attend my best friend’s father’s funeral because I knew she needed me. It’s part of community that you comprehend and William does not. Sad for him actually
Apparently he only let them know 45 min prior.
The CNN take is getting a lot of coverage that it isn’t related to his Dad or Kate so 🤷♀️. Can’t wait to see the excuses in the tabloids tomorrow. KP must be running around like crazed chickens right now watching this story spiral out of control.
Ewissa and Pinkosaurus: do you remember the story about how William is actually full of anxiety all the time, the one that cited the BAFTA snafu? I think this is the excuse — the press is expecting us to believe that William is anxious.
It’s fine if he is — they are supposed to all be very interested in mental health, after all, especially William. But it’s interesting that we’ve never been sold the “anxious” line before.
And with a potential substance abuse to cover up, “anxiety” is an interesting way to spin it. God bless the man if this is actually what’s going on, but still, I think there is more to the story.
I’m starting to think Bully Idle suffers from social anxiety and severe depression which presents as just laziness. Lots of bullies have low self esteem and are insecure. He bullied his father and grandmother into leaving him alone and letting him avoid preparation for the Prince of Wales position and ultimately the King. I guess he realizes now how ill prepared he is and he is aware of all the criticism of him, especially in the last year or two. Full of self loathing he channels all his anger towards his only sibling and his wife. All his unhappiness he has brought upon himself. What a mess! This kid should have had therapy after his mother died and he needed to be disciplined for behaving badly. Sadly that never happened and his dysfunction is paralyzing him now. If something doesn’t happen to steer him towards learning his job duties and some vital life lessons this will end badly. I hope it’s not too late.
I’m guessing it was the sudden death of Thomas Kingston.
That would be a good excuse except Thomas Kingston’s actual MIL and FIL (Prince/-ss) Michael went to the memorial so…
@pinkosaurus…which is downright horrifying when you think of it. the man died a year ago. Had a funeral so the fact they would attend a memorial so soon after a family members sudden death at 45 just confirms all the comments & stories I have read about what awful people Prince & Princess Micheal of Kent are.
weirdly, the press was NOT sold this as the excuse when it would have been a good enough one:
“According to reports, the financier’s death is not believed to be the reason why the Prince of Wales pulled out of a memorial service on Tuesday for his godfather King Constantine II, which was attended by Lady Gabriella’s parents Prince and Princess Michael of Kent.”
Her parents, of all people, had the excuse to NOT be there (not that Princess Michael of Racism would ever miss an event to hobnob with the rest of the European royals that she thinks she’s on par with). So weird!!!
No he died on Sunday
Princess Michael of Kent’s son in law died or something. Was she the one who was rude to Meghan?
That’s his emergency, you need to update
She’s the infamous Brooch Bitch. Racist cow.
Her father was an actual Nazi, she is known as Princess Pushy, besides the horrible blackmoor brooch incident, she’s shown time and time again that she’s racist. She also thinks she’s more royal than the BRF. She is truly hideous.
Reports said this wasn’t the reason. Plus Thomas’s parents in law were present. Thomas wasn’t part of Williams inner circle so, while sad, wouldn’t have been enough to cause him to pull out. If it had been a von Straubenzee or such then maybe.
@BQM Yes, Both the Duke of Kent and Lady Alexandria Ogilvy attended. In fact, I had wondered where Lady Gabriella was, knowing she was one of King Constantine’s god daughters, just a few minutes before the news broke that Thomas had died.
@Dee I have no idea why the Prince & Princess Michael showed up for the Memorial Service when their son-in-law had just died but they have some very screwed up priorities as we have seen. There is a lot of coded language being used in the media and it appears Thomas died early Sunday evening but the news was embargoed until 6pm London time today. Odd.
Gabriella Kingston was a goddaughter of King Constantine, as is Prince William.
Michael’s mother Marina was a Greek princess. And they probably wanted to show for their daughter who obviously wasn’t present. Were the Duke of Kent or princess Alexandra there? That could’ve played a role too if Michael was the only Kent due to be present. At least for Michael. His wife wouldn’t miss it even to be with her daughter.
I think it could be because of the other death in the family.
I am guessing he personally didn’t want to walk behind the mistress. I don’t blame him.
So he’s never going to do a public royal event again at which Camilla is in attendance?
No, while she’s there, but Charles is not. She’s Queen, so Will would be subordinate to her in Charles absence, I believe? Btw, among other things, it’s trivialities like this that makes despise them all.
When camilla is with charles the other royals could rationalize they are walking behind charles, not that wretched side chic he decide to elevate. When it’s just her (the women who destroyed his mother and childhood home. Who engaged in a posthumous campaign of character assination on his mother to rehabilitate her own image. Basically wrecked his childhood) ya that would be a tough pill to swallow. That woman should not be personally leading any royal procession on her own. She is unworthy.
I mean, none of them are especially worthy, including the father who cheated on his mother for the entirety of their marriage and encouraged/enabled/abetted said posthumous campaign of character assassination against his late mother – a campaign that Wililam has now participated in, BTW.
These are the rules of the game and William knows it.
While I think everyone can understand the horror of having to “submit” to a despised stepparent, I don’t think that’s justification for skipping a memorial service for your godfather in your own backyard?! If he doesn’t want to bow to Camzilla, nobody is going to force him to do it, right? I hope the press writes s ton of stories about this.
William knew Charles wouldn’t be there long before this. Camilla isn’t the reason.
@geegee: Or he is recovering from a massive hangover and what not…
So he decided to avoid honoring his godfather and the Greek family who asked him to do a reading because he refuses to walk behind Camilla who he has walked behind numerous times before, including two months ago during the Christmas walk and the last Easter Service to name a couple?
I thought the women only have rank when their spouse is there? Without Charles present, William would outrank her. Besides, if walking behind Camila was such a terrible aspect for William, he wouldn’t have agreed to the reading in the first place. Camila is going anywhere and I don’t has has anything to do with why he bailed at the last minute.
I think because she was crowned as Queen, her status isn’t dependent on Charles anymore.
Billy needs to put on his big boy jockeys and act like a good adult. In the long run petty stuff like walking behind someone ( even with royal protocol), does not matter if it’s not the “correct way”. Not written in stone mixing it up, its not that big a deal.Even if you do not respect someone, being on the world stage as some kind of “better” than peasants, as a leader, you should show “how it’s done” and show respect to your parents. jmo. and as a a US person, not clear or British culture and mores, thx.
This. Sorry-but he knows the drill. This is not a reason he’d skip out on this. There is something else going on.
I agree. I don’t think he wants to be around Camilla. There seems to be a rift of some sort and that’s also partly why Kate isn’t around.
William did call his mother paranoid and censored the Bashir interview
Not loyal to his mother.
William was already scheduled to attend and do a reading knowing Camilla would be there. Him pulling out of the engagement last minute is odd.
I saw a photo of a church walk and it looked like Andrew was leading! Quite a choice.
I think William refused to go if Andrew and Sarah Ferguson went.
Why? He happily did the Christmas walk to church with them.
He not only did the church walk with them, he drove Pervy Uncle Andy to some function around Christmas and was ok getting papped.
@Christine, that was before the news of Kate being with Andrew or Sir Richard Branson came out. Maybe William really didn’t know this information, and just because he can go around having affairs (with sometimes questionable partners like…ahem Christian Jones & all the other look-a-likes that work for William, I guess Will has a type) doesn’t mean it’s okay for a women to do the same even if it’s while they were on a break (because they had a few of those) or before they even met! The only other reason I can think of is that Will & Charles & Camilla are really fighting worse then ever before and I think it has to do with Kate, her illness & her whereabouts or lack thereof, as well as, the rumours of a pending divorce between them.
For a second I thought you meant Penny Mountbatten. What a mess of a family!
Bingo. William feels the same as Harry regarding the mistress
@Lulu, you mean Mattress not Mistress, right? Her Royal Mattress Queen Chlamydia. 😂
C’mon, William has walked behind Cowmilla so many times I can’t even count, what are you even talking about?
“William, who was due to deliver a reading,”
So the personal matter is he’s lazy and doesn’t want to work?
My vote is too drunk to stand and sound coherent.
Agree. “Personal matter” is a euphemism for someone being too drunk/too high/too mentally unstable to function. Nobody has a problem explaining an absence if it’s a medical issue — even a severe one can be presented as being “under the weather today.” I am also guessing somebody intervened and disinvited him.
I agree. They can’t say it’s about Kate anymore, because the DM made it clear what tjey think about the Kate situation. So it’s a personal matter now. He is either drunk, high or digging in his heels about being more visible. When he is criticised he usually doubles down. Given the amount of positive attention Harry is getting lately, my money is on drunk or high.
Oh dear… yeah, he’s likely too far gone 🙄
Citing personal reasons last minute is the worst excuse–always makes me think they are either uncontrollably barfing or pooping. Not very statesmanlike or royal. But what a spiral. Rota Richard Palmer tweeted that Willy’s absence was curious. I hope the damn bursts soon because at some point some rota will take a risk and claim public interest and the gloves will come off.
@Smart & Messy, he hasn’t been in the hospital at least that we know of. Usually when the media says in the hospital because of dehydration it’s code for in recovery or rehab. But I do believe what you wrote is completely true.
He can’t read.
💀😂
This “he can’t read” stuff is reaching Lea Michele levels of hilarity and I am here it for it.
Just a thought……Willy has gone to pieces since Kkkkhate has been off the scene. Perhaps he really cannot function without someone to lean on.
Without Harry (God love him) or the wife, maybe he’s having some sort of breakdown….??!
A guilty conscience will do that.
He’s trying to run away from the truth.
Not defending him, but William has had many losses. His father was away most of his childhood and youth gallivanting with his mistress . His mother dies when he’s still a teen, then he lost his brother 4 years ago (no communication, no friendship), and now his wife is basically incapacitated or refuses to see him. The man is very lonely, and I don’t know if he has any confidentes.
Yes, that’s the part that struck me. It’s one thing to say ahead of time that you can’t attend, it’s another to be a scheduled speaker at the memorial and then decide not to show up.
Exactly. This was scheduled. Plus he knew Charles wouldn’t be there. So it’s not walking behind Camilla , or competition with Harry or anything like that. It was something last minute. And I don’t think it was Thomas Kingston either. For reasons listed but also because he supposedly only called shortly before to cancel.
Oh it’s worse—he was IN THE PROGRAM of the service and was supposed to give a READING.
How do you bail on a funeral you’re supposed to play a role in? Meanwhile everyone’s looking at the program and seeing that the reading from Revelations is supposed to be given by the Prince of Wales?!
Have the kids been seen on the school runs? Going to and from? Seriously – where is everyone?
So the RF hosts a memorial service in their own house to honor a deceased Greek family member and neither the King nor the next in line (who is godson to the decedent) bother to show? And purportedly the bereaved’s close family travelled from Greece whilst in mourning to suffer this insult? It really looks like a race to the bottom between KC and Bully Idol. Slimmed down monarchy at work
I understand Charles not being there. When undergoing treatment for cancer you shouldn’t be in large gatherings. William’ not going is odd and concerning.
Yeah, this is exactly they type of event Charles should *not* be attending for health reasons. And honestly if he were a member of my family, I would probably object and try to convince them not to if he was planning to attend. That’s just a bad idea.
Soft diplomacy, indeed.
There are no such things as “Greek Royals”
That seems to be the sentiment from my Greek friends as well. They roll their eyes when “Greek Royals” is said. They call Philip the German (as his father-in-law did) and state the “Greek Monarchy” was set up to control Europe by a ruling dynastic family – all interconnected.
There were though and those deluded aristos still want to be attached to the titles. This is the same delusion the Italian ‘royals’ and aristos live under.
Years ago I met a ‘duchess’ that insisted people would use the title to talk to her, always refused… Italy has been a Republic since 1946.
Yes, the Italian aristocrats are something else with their snobbery. I once went to a sci-fi convention and one of the actresses on the TV show had a friend who was an Italian duchess or something. The actress and her friend were making beauty products. And when I tried to talk to the duchess about Italy (I lived there for awhile), she gave me a look that should have killed me in my shoes.
As a result, I never bought any more of their beauty products again. 😀 I have no time or patience for aristocrats.
Then there’s the Romanovs, still fighting over who the “real” heir to a throne that doesn’t exist anymore.
They are just as much royals as any other royal family – basically, they’re all related to one another. As for “Greek,” Constantine was born in Greece, as were his sisters, as was his father, Paul – that makes them Greek.
I always find this interesting. In America your mom can step foot here an hour prior to giving birth and you’re an American. How many generations does a family have to be somewhere before they’re considered “from there” in some places? Philip wasn’t German, his mother was born in England (Windsor castle even) and his father in Greece.
So, the name Mountbatten was originall Battenberg. That is one of the states of Germany, which all had their Dukes or Princes or whatever, before unification of Germany in the 18somethings. The name was changed to Mountbatten (a translation into English) around the time of WW1, when all things German were not desirable in England. The Battenbergs were German, also with Victoria’s descendants married in, but then, they were German too. All the houses of Europe are heavily German.
@BQM – if you’re born on Greek soil, then you’re a Greek citizen, no matter what the nationality of your parents. If you were born outside of Greece and can show Greek lineage, then you can also claim Greek citizenship.
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I think some of you are missing that the Greek people are objecting to colonists of foreign origin coming in to rule them. Yes, you are Greek if you were born in Greece but that doesn’t mean you (or anyone else for that matter) should call yourself the King of Greece, particularly after the monarchy has been abolished.
is something going on or he’s just lazy? with him you never know.
I think something is going on…
William needed some lovin’ and adulation from Rose H.
I’m sure a number of the royals *know* what went down between William and Kate, and mingling with them would have shown how much they detest him. He’s literally been turned into a pariah.
I wonder if they called HIM and told him not to come.
My My My, the Walses are falling apart huh? This is a really bad look and whatever is going on must be bad enough that his team made him pull out.
Honestly, my first thought was “OMG…here we go”.
As in the beginning of rolling out what is happening with Kate.
Whatever it is, something is decidedly off in the house of Windsor.
Agreed. Very ‘Tom Brady not at camp citing personal reasons’ feeling. Here we go indeed.
Excellent comparison!
not to sound too much like an instagrammer but when i saw this news i twisted my ankles rushing to the comment section here, and i’m on UK time so i had to wait a bit for this post
Charles’s absence is understandable because of concerns about germs/viruses while undergoing chemo.
William’s suddenly-announced absence, accompanied by KP feeding the press a minuscule update that Kate’s recovery is “going well” with nothing more, not even a staged picture, points to something very dire going on for Kate. Either her condition is still not stable (weeks after surgery???) or she has something terminal and KP (correctly imo) thinks the public will forgive and understand the lack of information in service of giving the family privacy in final days. What else would mean William can’t be absent from her side or the kids for a short few hours?
Edward didn’t seem to attend either—is there more illness going on?
If that were the case, why would Will accept to begin with?
Literally, everyone was there except Edward and Sofia, Will and Kate, and Charles! The Duke of Kent, who is like 1000 years old! They even rolled out that poor elderly cousin of QE2 in the wheelchair! Yet supposedly able-bodied son and brother of the King can’t make it???
The Kents are second cousins.
George I—Constantine I—Paul—Constantine II
George I—Nicholas—Marina—Kents
George I—Andrew—Philip—Charles
Edward and Sophie did an event together yesterday in Manchester.
They’re on a skiing holiday with friends.
Dude is just as depressed as his wife. None of them are up for anything, public or private. They’re done.
And he pulled out last minute. Drunk again. Dude is nit “one pint prince@ they want us to believe. All the opposite.
I have had the same impression for a long time. Both suffer from mental health issues that are also destructive to one another, and especially Kate. I find it more plausible than Kate having a terminal illness. And it feels so dark and ominous. Especially with Carole’s complete silence.
Although, about Ma I have an alternative theory that she is silenced by Cam or Peg. The last time she was mentioned in the press was her bday and they listed her debts down to the penny with creditor names included. They would keep doing that if she dares show her face.
Sounds like he just didn’t want to go. I do wonder though if he’s very isolated from the rest of his family. We know he hates Harry, but outside of Mike Tindall the rest of the family recently just seems like they tolerated him and Kate and wanted to stay out of his ( and the BM’s) cross hairs. I’ve long suspected that other European royals think that him and Kate are lightweights, and this doesn’t disprove it. I mean we hear the boneheaded stuff that he says that he thinks it’s good enough for public consumption, I can only imagine what they are like in ” private”.
I imagine the rest of them will have a better time without him.
I have a clue as to what they are like. Grown ass adults wanted Easter baskets from Harry and Meghan for themselves not for their children. A bunch of weirdos the both of them. Two adults who never grew up. Neither one of them would survive if they weren’t royals. A bunch of do nothing dummies.
^^ This! Exactly @Angie, and thank you. 💯 🎯
I think it’s genuinely possible Kate is hiding as cover for William being in some sort of treatment program. They’ve gotten him a pass for a few events and he’s just too messy.
This was mentioned early on and I would have no problem believing it. The only sticking point for me is him admitting something is that bad that he needs help/treatment and engaging in it.
Something to ponder, scapegoats to the heir. Even the king. AND future queen.
Something is going on for sure but I don’t think Kate would be hidden for so long just to cover Wills – and Ma Middleton as well.
It does look, to me, like Kate is being phased out. They tore down the Middleton “empire” and disgraced the family and now Kate is no where to be seen – and neither is Ma Middleton who reportedly was the soothing balm and mother that Wills missed due to Diana’s early demise.
But it sure does smell rotten.
Where are the modern play writes and poets. Something is rotten in Denmark. What an incredible line and what an interesting time to be a royal critic.
Kate and Carole would agree to this if the royals made it worth their while financially.
This is all getting very embarrassing. In a just world, it would be doing great damage to the monarchy. The heir and his wife are missing in action without explanation. The lack of accountability from a tax supported institution seems to be tolerated in ways that should not be acceptable in a democracy.
On another note, it says an awful lot about the “Greek royals” that they want a rapist pedophile at their late husband and father’s memorial service.
I could be wrong, but I think I remember it being said that there was also a Greek royal in Epstein’s crowd?
This is not a good look, Peggy! Given the number of royals attending (per People), the fact that he was to give a reading, with Constantine as his godfather, “noping out” will not go unnoticed. Not to mention that, Kaiser said, this is his family. He’s managed to insult not just the Greek “royal family”, but his own family and several European monarchs. Awesome job Mr. Wannabe Global Statesman!
given too much and not earning anything. It’s like keeping a child crawling. He could, but we can’t allow him to stand on his own. I’ll pass you what you want down there. Sad, maybe he finally sees he’s been lead on. His role is useless and being in a room of others like him, he can’t up stage them. They won’t get spoon fed his lies or stop the bleed of their emotional Hemophiliac.
Well according to derangers he’s so exhausted from tending to Kate and the children 24/7 which is why he was swaying (with exhaustion) so he can’t be expected to do much at all. Apparently he’s working his fingers to the bone. Poor luv a funeral would be way too much.
Why would he be though? People that are exhausted from caring for sick partners, children, or parents are because they don’t have the ability to hire private nurses, have staff to carry out their work duties, have nannies to help with child care. I’m not saying that someone with those things could not also be stressed but he’s not in the same situation as a couple with three kids and one of them is ill and they’re trying to keep everything afloat while dealing with a chronic long-term illness. It’s like these people don’t realize other people reside in the real world.
Her certainly wasn’t too exhausted to attend the BAFTAS and hang out with Tom Cruise.
Dee, this is what the K/bully fans say. This is what I keep seeing as excuses on sm.
Willy isn’t with Kate most likely and if he is he’s not mopping her brow 24/7. I’ve been a carer without staff and managed to stand up straight. They want to believe the mopping her brow fiction.
JT I believe it was Cate That is was in attendance. His global super star face of EARTHshot. I could down a rabbit hole with Cate. Will. Face shots. But she’s creepy and newly single. That’s what I’m saying. Tom was just a buffer she was the buffet.
@jt that is really the big problem isn’t it. There is no reasonable excuse that can be made in light of his galavanting around with movie stars.
Charles traveled and represented his mother abroad frequently as POW including high profile funerals like Anwar Sadat’s. How is it William can’t even participate in an event at Windsor for his own godfather?!
What is happening?
I’m just gonna go with lazy, rude, and too self-absorbed to show up for anything unless it’s all about him (and even then, the laziness tends to win out more often than not).
The fact that they are letting all this adjectifs and speculations circulate concerning William and Kate shows how much worse is the reality…they prefer this instead of telling the truth…what’s wrong?
He’s running scared. His family knows the truth and he can’t show his coward’s face without it being glaringly obvious that they can’t stand him.
Eeee, this is genuinely concerning to me. All the reporting (and it’s all over the news not just royal gossip pages) is that he is pulling out of a scheduled event, no one’s hiding that just days ago he was confirmed- not “taking it day by day” to decide attendance, but at some point actually took the decision to put publicly confirm and apparently plan the event with his attendance in the programme. Given that he had the easiest out ever by just not ever stating a “return to work” date and keeping everything officially tentative (due to you know caring for Kate and kiddos), they must have been very confident he would attend and something rather drastic must have happened for this cancellation imo. I don’t think this is laziness. I think he’s either exhibiting extreme oppositional behavior or is not in a state to be seen publicly/speak publicly. I mean I could be totally wrong and something may have happened with Kate’s recovery, but something serious has happened in the last days/hours(?)…
You’re 100% correct re: the logic of keeping everything tentative instead of committing and then cancelling. The simplest explanation I can manage is that initially Will thought this would be a good way to stick it to Harry, so he got his team to commit AND get him a big important reading, but now he no longer feels he has to compete by going. Maybe because the papers are ripping Harry to shreds over the Hulu “documentary” so Will felt they had enough material at the moment and he didn’t need to bother putting on a suit and dealing with Camilla? After all, he’d rather have the papers lambast Harry than cover (in his mind) some lame memorial.
Or, even simpler, Will is a total a**, he obviously doesn’t care about his godfather, and the Firm has lost what little control over him they once had. Not sure how much of this latest sh*tshow is because Kate is m.i.a. and *she* was someone who still could get him to do the bare minimum, or if it was the private secretary whose absence is causing so much chaos?
Like Charles funeral this has been planned and maybe during illness the Greek fella reiterated his plans with lazy Wills. My mother if she could. would make the sandwiches for her own funeral. 62 lol and worried about everything, I will sing and play farewell to Nova Scotia. Doesn’t mean I will. Well I will because I respect her and love the life I lived the one she shared and moral high grounds poised and chic. It’s all about respect. He couldn’t even bother. DICK
I believe Will has checked out and there is nothing anyone can do to force him into action to fulfill his royal role and duties. He knows the gatekeepers of the royals in the tabloids and within the firm won’t call him out because he’s all they have left. They have to protect him to keep the scam of the monarchy going in his favor, especially since Charles won’t be a long-term monarch.
As I noted below, it says Kate “continued” to do well—in past tense even though present tense would be more natural in the sentence.
If this man couldn’t sober up for a private memorial service, how in the hell is he going to resume normal duties in front of the press? If the kids were sick or he had to pull the school run excuse, then KP would have said as much. There’s something more to this and it’s rather sinister.
I still believe the press knows exactly what is going on with the Wails. Their silence on all fronts is the biggest giveaway.
If that were the case, though – why not give a reasonable excuse? Why not say that he had to tend to Kate, or the children, or he himself was feeling unwell? Nobody would demand a doctor’s note, and I don’t think BP would call him out directly.
Why can’t they come up with something better than “personal reasons”?
I’m really starting to think this is all because Charles is terminally ill and Will has been on one long downward spiral since he found out.
I think that could explain Kate’s disappearance too – Will didn’t want to get stuck with Kate as queen if Charles passes like he was when Charles immediately gave them the PoW titles and so he sidelined her immediately (and she pulled the medical er card to buy some time and they’ve been battling behind the scenes ever since, with her and the firm against a divorce and Will adamant about it).
OR, throwing a new random theory on the pile – this is all a big move by Will AND Kate. We know they’re lazy, they’ve always been lazy, and IMHO that’s because they 100% believe in monarchy and therefore 100% do not believe in the performative philanthropy cooked up by prince philip to avoid a french exit.
So, this is their (idiotic) way of changing the way things are done between reigns – Kate’s “recovery” gives them an excuse to basically shirk their duties until Charles dies – and then once they’re king and queen they’ll continue doing things “The Cambridge Way” aka not doing anything of any real value but at that point they’ll be able to lord about in crowns as they’ve always dreamed of and they think that’ll be enough to keep the masses entertained. And I’ll explain Carole’s absence by saying that, again, just like they want to memory hole the “Kate goes to a charity shop because that’s what you expect of her!” stories, they want some space between “Middle Class Carole!” and The Queen Mother schtick I’m SURE they’ve been plotting since Kate was in nappies. Idk, I know it doesn’t really make sense, but they’re that dumb, I could buy anything at this point.
@Sunday I actually think your first theory is correct. I think Charles’ illness has been known by internals for awhile and William is freaking out. Perhaps it became known in the family over the Christmas holiday. I’ve always been on the fence on whether the Wales marriage would last but the last 18 months or so has made it seem to me at least that William was done and was slowly sidelining Kate. It is possible that Charles is very ill and William is now panicking as he thought he had more time to end the marriage before he became King. I personally thought that Charles made them PPofW immediately as a way to trap William. Harder to divorce a Princess of Wales than a Duchess of Cambridge. But divorce a Queen? William is super trapped now.
Sunday, I agree with your first theory. KC is terminally ill and W has been on a long downward spiral since then. Add the weight of K’s sudden and serious long-term illness to the stress of it all and I’m afraid of what might happen to him. I’m not sure if he can go on like this.
This is a thoughtful comment. William might be having mental health issues because he knows how much his life is going to change in just a short amount of time. He may also be thinking ahead about how he would like to change/lessen his work load when he becomes king. The alcohol narrative is nonsense.
I think if Charles was terminally ill and it was announced to the family over christmas, harry would have gone over earlier in January, not squeezing in a visit right before a very busy week for him.
ETA thats not to say that his condition isnt’ serious, even terminal, just that I dont think it was announced at christmas.
idk, I think Charles even calling Harry to inform him was a sign that it was serious. BP admitted to that. Plus, H&M have proven they can get in& out of the uk undetected, so who’s to say it was his first visit following the news? Harry squeezing in the visit publicly, conspicously, and officially right before the IG events was moreso to cut the press off from criticizing him about not seeing his sick father.
but okay, what if charles isn’t actually that ill, but Will is a narcissistic moron who may have been half in the bag when he heard his father had cancer, immediately went to worst case scenario because that’s the one that effects him the most, and thus the spiral he’s clearly on was started. idk, still fits imho.
ETA just saw your edit, agree that’s possible, just an illness at first then a more serious diagnosis. either way I think all of the above still fits, and anyway looking back at the calm, careful, uncharacteristically impeccable pr about Charles’ prostate does seem incredibly suspicious in hindsight.
I don’t know if we know enough of the current state of Charles and Harry’s relationship to know if Charles would have alerted Harry immediately after he found out about having cancer and/or terminal cancer. I’m not even sure if we know enough about about Charles and William’s relationship to know if Charles would give William much of a heads up either. It’s possible he wanted to hold information close to the chest so that nothing would leak. It certainly would be interesting to know if he said anything to William around Christmas, because it certainly could provide a clue for a lot that followed afterwards. Do we think that Charles would be in support of William divorcing Kate before his death (so maybe he gave William a heads if only to tell him to get going on that divorce before it was too late)? Or have there been indications that Charles is not in support of them divorcing?
@Sunday curious about your claim that “H&M have proven they can get in& out of the uk undetected,” I’ve never read that anywhere else, is there some support for that?
Personally I doubt Charles has terminal cancer, at least at this stage, and certainly I hope he doesn’t simply out of basic human compassion, and the sidelining of Kate to avoid having her as queen sounds like pure fan fiction but your take was definitely a fun read! 🙂
Manila I believe @Sunday is referring to when the Sussexes visited the queen unannounced before Invictus in the Hague and of course when Harry testified in court. No one knew he flew into the country until he showed up at court.
Lanita, Harry saw QE2 in April 2022 before the IG 2022 (called the IG 2020). He was in and out and no one knew until he disclosed it during an interview at the Invictus Games.
Frankly, it would fit that KFC may have terminal cancer. I remember many posts where people were talking about his weight loss–this was last year at least. I agree I wouldn’t want anyone to be terminally ill with cancer. I’ve learned by experience that what I want and what I get can be different things.
I think it’s quite possible that Keen is being used for cover. If people are wondering where she is, they’re not looking somewhere else.
Andrew, Cam, and company looked too cheerful for Charles to be terminal at the memorial.
Will had a good laugh with young actresses at BAFTA and grinning ear to ear, cheek to cheek with his pal Cruisey. Doesn’t look too crush either. Nervous yes.
Looking at the antics of this motley lot, no one acts like they are waiting for Charles to bid his eternal goodnight. Knowing the BRF, they’d milk another state funeral for all its PR worth and bill it all to the taxpayers who are waiting 3 months to start cancer treatment.
I think, I’m not sure, but I think….. that article was the first time Kkkate’s surgery was described as major. Everything I’ve read always described it as abdominal surgery as it’s described initially but then in the last paragraph it says ‘following major surgery in January’
What a bad look. Charles can’t attend – okay, he’s undergoing cancer treatments – and we’re back to what we’ve said before – Charles’ work ethic (for a royal) over the past few decades provides him a lot of leeway. No one thinks Charles is taking advantage of a cancer diagnosis to avoid working as much as possible. If he’s not there, its because it would be too draining for him at this point, or his doctors advised him not to attend.
William, though? A PERSONAL MATTER?? Are you kidding me?? how lazy is he?!?! The service is IN WINDSOR where he is supposedly holed up between the school run and rubbing Kate’s back or whatever, and he can’t be bothered to show up for an hour or two? Missing the reception – whatever- but he missed the actual service?
If whatever is going on with Kate is actually cover for something going on with William, then KP really misplayed this because William is just coming across like a lazy grifter who can’t do the bare minimum unless it involves movie stars.
It is so weird to say it is a personal matter too. They are just making things fishy with all these excuses.
Either things are really bad, which could be the case, or at this point, they’re okay with all the speculation.
Maybe “a personal matter” is 2024’s “hospitalised for exhaustion”
This is beyond shameful, now he can’t even be bothered to read an homage for his godfather? What is really happening and how long till everybody gets sick of his behaviour?
Is this preparation for marriage talk in the press about ferg ie and andrew.odd that she and Andrew are there. Andrew not a working royal and ferg ie long divorced from him
This marriage talk is 100% to make Andrew look better, and a family man. Instead of ostracizing him and sending him to live far away from London, they insist in parading him around. Fergie will make people say: “ohhhh, just like JLo and Ben Affleck, how romantic”. Truth is he barely looks at her, likes teenagers, and she is old now and needs home and board and protection.
New bully idle requirements-If he can’t take the heli or wear his voom voom airplane slippers he’s not going.
If he has to read, speak without slurring, or stand upright without swaying, he’s not going. If he has to be a leader, he’s completely incapable of stepping up. But wait — aren’t British kings Heads of State, in charge of church and country? Hoo boy. Abolish the Monarchy.
So Global Statesman and self described Middle East expert canceled his funeral appearance at the last minute. Maybe he’s embarrassed over his Gaza gaffe, lol.
I don’t think his sense of entitlement allows for his brain to understand “embarrassment” due to his mental dexterity. BUT, you make an excellent point – this great stateman can’t show up for his godfather’s memorial. As the saying goes: people show you who they are – believe them.
He should do everyone a favor, abdicate and take his family too live a quiet life in the country somewhere. What a disgrace
Yes, they have millions. Go live a normal life and raise your kids. He doesn’t even have to work with all the money he got from grandma and will get from daddy.
Words fail me. What an entitled, lazy, twat he is.
I always crack up at the ‘school run’ taking so much time. In my world we call that ‘dropping off the kids at school before work’
I have images of William running like he said be did in central park and the children running with him.to get to school.
This is the main headline on the DM. Could the tide be turning?
I think their leash is being yanked. Time to pay the piper.
Ok everytime I say to myself I won’t be a conspiracy theorist then something like this happens….this would have been such an easy win. Just walk into church, sit through a service and leave. He could even skip the reception afterwards if he wanted to. Weird weird weird.
According to the press he was set to do a reading at the service. So he was probably not in any condition to do it.
Oh yikes I didn’t realize that. Ok well that makes more sense as I couldn’t understand how he couldn’t do this especially if it wasn’t being televised. Wow this is really bad (and profoundly sad……whatever is going on behind the scenes I feel awful for the Wales kids).
I’m with Kaiser. He couldn’t sober up in time. What a mess.
Yep, some poor aide popped over to wherever he is living and discovered he was far too inebriated to sober up in time.
It was announced on LBC radio news which I thought was weird. I wouldn’t expect it to be a big deal. But suggests something more is happening or about to happen
It’s on the Times (London) and even on the Guardian website – surprising as the Guardian doesn’t tend to give royal updates like that. So maybe something is about to come out…
Count me in as someone surprised this made it into The Guardian as well—The Guardian doesn’t waste precious space on royal gossip—something big is about to break.
The media is making this into a big deal because for whatever reason (invisible contract) they can’t directly cover the real story of whatever’s going on here, but they’re obviously losing patience with Will’s inability to do bare minimum pr ops to give them content. So they’re poking at him any way they can, which is to give undue attention to something that would otherwise be a non-story.
British press would’ve covered this, sure, but US media would absolutely not cover (to this extent) the memorial service for an ex-monarch that I’m confident 90% of Americans didn’t even know existed. They’re covering this because they are positively itching to break the real story, this is just tiptoeing around the edge.
Or did he do something so awful that he’s persona non grata even in that dreadful family, and doesn’t want to face them?
Those were my initial thoughts as well. William has done something and he can’t face being around his extended family. And they all know and are disgusted with him.
When Andrew has a seat in the pew and Willies doesn’t, what he’s done must be heinous. Wait, where’s Kate again?
Maybe that’s why Andrew seemed so happy walking today. He was probably thinking “he’s worse than me!”.
Did he sell out his country? Or commit violence? There’s not a lot that family won’t tolerate, so it’s got to be big.
Sending your wife on a trip to the moon (“to the moon, Alice”) so that she may never come back: I think that is something they won’t tolerate. Could be wrong.
I’ve maintained he did something awful, likely to Kate, and the family has circled their wagons against him. It must be pretty serious if that lot is shunning him because they’re all awful, but he’s unable to be around them.
This is my take as well. If you look at his last appearance closely – the swaying, the blinking, not being able to keep it together – it screams of what I have done like the enormity of it is hitting him hard. I also think he was crying at some point. He may or may not have been medicated like he had to take something to calm down and get through the ceremony. Until I see a live video of Kate with proof of today’s date – I don’t believe a word of what they are telling us.
He needs to abdicate. He can’t perform his duties. For once in his life he needs to do the right thing and acknowledge he is not up for this. I think Eugenie should be regent – don’t drag Harry and his family back to that den of vipers and going back is so dangerous for them – a monster created by the RF themselves back when it benefited them to throw H & M under the bus.
Somehow Jaded I think the family would still side with their own. Look at how they treated Diana
It has come to that. Nothing else makes sense anymore. And I suspect there is a lot going on behind the scenes, involving senior royal functionaries, and Scotland Yard. He will be forced to abdicate. I think things are coming down now, on his head, in private. We will hear a severely sanitized version of events eventually.
@Side Eye, perhaps you meant to say, “Beatrice should be regent.” 🤔 Eugenie is the youngest York princess. Bea is the one who lives full-time in Britain, and she seems to have more interest in undertaking royal duties than Eugenie.
Hmmm, this is unusual for him – as lazy as he is he does turn up esp for solo events. As Mary P says ‘Easter is Coming’!!!!
I was trying to follow Mary P’’s clues yesterday about how “Easter is coming” but couldn’t. Is it just that something big is about to break?
Initially it was said that Kate would be well enough to appear at Easter church services, but I doubt that’s going to happen. She also mentioned that Balmoral had let a number of employees go after Charles became the monarch, but they’re now hiring more staff, specifically staff who hadn’t worked there before. So something’s up with Balmoral — new tenants perhaps? Mary Pester knows a LOT as she has a close friend from her military days who was friends with Harry during his military service. Her friend’s mother and sister have worked at Balmoral for ages, so between the 3 of them they have a ton of tea. I do think something big is going to break after Easter.
Thank you, @Jaded!
I’m also trying to follow the “Easter is coming” hints. Is it as simple as well learn more / big news will break at Easter? Or is there a hidden analogy there? At Easter, Jesus rose from the dead after a death by crucifixion. Is Kate going to make an appearance after all of this speculation?
Wank is so f-ing lazy and selfish
As someone who has been sober for 7 years (whoop whoop), and as I’m sure many of you know, the isolating behavior of staying home is very common in alcoholics. When I drank, I feared leaving the house because I’d always be worrying about when I’d be able to drink or would people know I was hungover.
And honestly, I never ever suspected William to possibly be struggling with alcohol addiction, but that video of him swaying and blinking nonstop has me thinking. Suddenly a lot of confusing past events and the reluctance to work are making sense.
Congratulations @StoneColdJaneAusten 😊 (and a great name by the way!)
It really is a great moniker, StoneColdJaneAustin.
Congrats to you!
Me Too.
Kate “continued” to be doing well? Why the sudden change to past tense? I don’t buy the theory that she’s passed, but that wording is squirrelly / temporizing.
Also a bit weird/interesting, it doesn’t look like any of the Danish royal family attended
After BRF disinvited Mary from the Coronation, made Daisy have to wait around for transport from the coronation in a thoughtless manner and the English media amplified the queen taking titles away/Fred’s playing away to stick it to the DRF and H&M in the larger English language press? Gee, I can’t think why…
And Kate kept the Danish
royals waiting when she was visiting them in Copenhagen.
Benedikte of Sayn Wittgenstein Berleburg (Queen Margarethe’s and Queen Anna Maria’s sister) was there with her son, daughter in law, daughter and son in law. They are Danish royal s.
Princess Benedikte of Denmark (sister of Queen Margrethe and Anne-Marie) was there. I think Benedikte’s children also attended.
As others have noted, Princess Benedikte (Queen Anne-Marie’s sister) was there with her daughter and son in law. I got the impression that Margrethe was unavailable or she very likely would have been there to support her sister. The sisters get along well with each other.
Whatever the reason, the British tabloids will blame Harry and Meghan. HAHA
I vote for Kate had a massive nervous breakdown and her recovery timeline is not able to be determined yet. William just spins around not knowing what to do other than being secretive, undependable and very, very awkward.
Does anyone think QE provided financially for the extended family in her will? Charles is only concerned about Camilla and maybe her children. He evicted his own son from a home the Queen gifted him. None of Charles’s siblings or extended family will see a dime when William is in charge and they know it. Will-not has to be a bore and terror to be around and the entire family know what will happen when he is the head of the family. (Bullying, entitled, neon with rage and throwing everyone to the wolves for good pr).
This is one I’m actually NOT going to dunk on Bill for. There is obviously a lot going on at home.
Moreover. It seems like every time he steps out without a baby sitter, he makes some idiotic comment, so he probably SHOULD stay home for a while and practice his lines. 😒
Agreed, he has every reason to be an emotional mess, distracted from work, etc. I would be a wreck too. But he comes across as so arrogant by refusing to disclose any accurate detail about what’s really going on. A dash of truth would go a long way for public sympathy.
Except that he made it a big point to attend and be all smiles at an event where Tom Cruise would be present, and somehow had the fortitude to selflessly attend the BAFTAs! He wasn’t too broken up to go backstage to meet with young actresses.
There are no real details about what is going on at home, so no one can say that he’s too much of a wreck to do the bare minimum. The bar is so low for him.
Please spare the sympathy and excuses for real carers doing 24/7 work who actually never have respite or help, especially not nannies, nurses, housekeeping staff, drivers, personal secretaries, and the ability to attend parties.
@Juno – I was talking in terms of PR, not my personal feelings about William. I’m not giving him real sympathy but modeling how his PR team could reasonably be spinning this. It shows how massively his PR is failing.
Don’t expect a counter argument from me. I don’t know why he bothered showing up to the BAFTAs at all, considering he usually skips it. He was obviously unprepared since he made a total ass of himself.
It really does have me wondering if they tried to let him off leash for a while and realized he isn’t ready, so now they’re grounding him. He needs a lot of help. He is woefully unprepared to be on his own as a public speaker or a diplomat and should stick to cutting ribbons for now. After the last couple weeks, I wouldn’t be surprised if this wasn’t even his choice.
They’re so full of it about what is really going on with Kate, anyway, it’s possible there IS some “personal matter” taking precedent. If they don’t want people to speculate, they could try not lying their asses off for a change.
@BadJanet – Sorry that my “But” sounded like I was disagreeing. Poorly worded on my part.
Well if its a glitzy event with celebrities and cameras it seems you can’t keep Willy Peg away from that. But a private event around his family? No no, can’t cope, too hard, I’m a mess. I don’t know if that says more about him or about his family. But yes, this is the future king and global statesman! Put some respect on that!
Then his attendance should not have been confirmed and he shouldn’t have agreed to a reading.
I agree. It was a dumb strategy for them to commit to anything instead of saying he is touch and go. He will never have such a golden opportunity to play hooky in his life, so either the team behind the bill is really stupid (which is completely plausible)… Or maybe he actually did plan to go and something actually did come up. They are being so tight lipped about what’s really happening, no one knows. Otherwise, Id just chalk it up to Bill being Bill.
OMG. I thought he had to TRAVEL for this. He only had to commute…. Within Windsor? I take it back.
Pffbt. Ridiculous. There are very limited excuses available here – pretty much all of them involving being overtaken by severe, if not temporary, physical illness. Not the drinking kind.
In the context of everything else going on, it’s just bizarre. They are completely clueless about how to manage themselves. It is like watching a train derail in slow motion from a mile away.
“Duty” isn’t a big thing with this group is it? Grandma would be so proud.
This is a disgrace. If Kate is “doing well” there is no reason for William to bow out, unless he had an episode…
William doesn’t want to answer questions about Kate, and these people would ask questions. It’s possible that Charles, as open as he has seemed, also doesn’t want to be put on the spot.
There is something very major going on. Thoughts and prayers.
William never had any intention of going to this memorial service. Never. Not for one second did he intend to make an appearance.
True. And, it’s worse than that. The Palace knew William can’t be around his family but does not know how to handle that so they decided to schedule him for a reading and then pull him out at the last minute. (Just my speculation, of course.)
I imagine the truth of what is happening in this family is stranger than we could possibly imagine or speculate upon. It just defies explanation that PW is so absent since the health stories were made public. At this point, I’m thinking Kate is dealing with an emotional issue and needs care and recupperation. It’s the only thing which makes sense.
There are too many things that *could* be wrong with Kate, it’s useless to speculate. Something is über wrong though. My first random thought was that she had ODed after a particularily callous/worthless divorce offer from Bulliam’s lawyers and no one found her until something had gone seriously wrong. Like, when I was working as an RN I once took care of a comatose woman who had lost a leg after she nodded off (whilst shooting up heroin with her father!) with it at a weird angle underneath her and cut off all arterial circulation. Bad things happen when you’re involved with a bad person, and I believe Bulliam IS bad.
@agnes, when you say there are so many things that could be wrong with Kate that it’s useless to speculate, I feel that. There’s so many theories and I’m like yeah sure maybe about all of them. And @trex, when you say the truth is probably stranger than we can imagine or even speculate, I really feel that. More rota stories will come out and we’ll get a few kernels of truth but mostly I don’t know that we ever will. If Kate and William actually divorce, we will know. If Kate had a health issue that continues, we will know but I’m not sure we’d get the actual truth. They’re all about protection. If Kate randomly shows up at Easter like hey y’all, that’ll be really interesting.
The truth will come out eventually but it may not be until 99 years after the reading of the will …
As someone who has struggled with alcohol problems and considering writers on this very site has mentioned problems it’s really interesting how some of you treat addiction. I’ve not heard any rumors about William having a problem with alcohol but if he does, comments about a disease sure won’t help.
Having an addiction doesn’t excuse anyone from being rotten and cruel to other people.
As many on this site have commented about both physical and mental health issues, just because you’re suffering doesn’t give you a pass to be an asshole. When William as a forty something man with all the (taxpayer supported) privilege he has enjoyed since birth lives up to his duty and potential, stops being an abusive rage monster and becomes a better person, I can put any possible addiction claims in perspective as with any other human. Until then….
If William has a drinking problem, that is only one small part of his issues. We comment negatively on him because he’s lazy, rude, entitled, arrogant, flippant, racist and obviously can’t stand his wife. He’s been an unfaithful husband, and may very well have fathered a child with someone else. For that reason we don’t feel sympathy for him if he drinks too much expensive, tax-payer funded booze.
William can’t be around his family. Emphasis on “can’t.”
Well, this is going to rev up the European papers …
I agree that Willy is probably too drunk or too hung over to show up. This last-minute absence is disgraceful.
Let’s see how Concha reacts to William dissing King Felipe’s uncle.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. The euro press will be loaded for bear now, lol.
I think I saw someone say the Spanish royals were there. Given the rumors that were already coming out of Spain about Kate I have a feeling they’re going to have a field day with this.
Please someone post the updates from the Spanish media when you get them lol.
Looks like another royal adjacent just died. The son in law of the Kent’s (royal racists).
This family is cursed and until they right their wrongs….eeekkk.
The Spains were out in force. Juan Carlos, Sofia, all three of their children, and one grandchild (one of Cristina’s kids). Princess Irene (Constantine’s other sib) lives with Sofia and she was of course there.
Perhaps he wasn’t willing to attend unless Andrew was banned.
Well, if he was willing to drive Andrew to church at Balmoral, I’m not sure why he’d object to walking in the same group in at Windsor. Still the exact same pervert he was last year.
He went to church with Pedo at Christmas.
Over on LaineyGossip they’re giving a pretty sympathetic, if still somewhat probing, take on this. And I have to say while I feel sympathy for him as a human during what must be a tough time with his wife and dad, talking points about William potentially “modeling a more modern approach to their roles as a reflection of evolved general social values, this could be an opportunity for them to lead in this area…and to adopt a more holistic approach to the job” read as silly when his “job” in reality involves SO little actual WORK (and not exactly tough work, just showing up and chatting with people) even at the busiest of times, and most certainly right now, especially given the enormous privilege and wealth he receives.
While I doubt the English monarchy will actually be abolished, it’s never been clearer that since the Queen’s death the continued outsized prominence of this royal family (especially in comparison to the shrug that most royals from other countries seem to inspire) is no longer needed, and is certainly not deserved.
That’s a nice “theory” but it doesn’t explain why they continue to bash Harry over the head for abandoning his “duty”. Its all well and good for William to skip out on something to protect his “mental health” *eyeroll* but they still criticize Harry and Meghan all day everyday for doing the same, even though his wife was suicidal.
Lainey has always low key been pretty sympathetic to wills and Kate. I think she would prefer to be more of a Meghan hater if she could get away with it (she did say that Meghan’s fashion on their first tour was bad and that MEghan was a “famewhore”—exact words). But she’s smart and can read the room on how bad the racism against Meghan got and doesn’t want to be called out and alienate her audience. Wills would not be guffawing with movie stars if he were so traumatized. Please. He destroyed all the good will and breathing room with that stupid Tom Cruise event.
I stopped reading Lainey Gossip when she got cowed into not writing about the British royals. Find it incredible that as a gossip columnist she has not been covering them.
Here’s my latest theories:
I think William almost lost Kate and that triggered his trauma. I do think he cares about his kids and the thought that they could have been subjected to what he went through was unnerving. I think because of that and his preference for privacy, he has all the key players on lock down and I wouldn’t be surprised if the rumor about the nanny being fired or let go was true even if it’s a temporary thing. There must have been some truth to the coma story and so out she goes. I don’t think Kate is currently in a coma but I do think she needs round the clock care. William has probably shut off anyone who might leak anything from being near Kate so that leaves him and maybe Carole to do the hands on caretaking. I don’t think the kids are in school until this blows over. I think he didn’t go to the memorial because he just recently locked things down further. Maybe having Carole watch Kate and the nanny watching the kids was good until he was able to confirm that the nanny’s side let out the coma story. Now it’s just him and Carole. I also think he’s paid off the press to keep a lid on this. Maybe he had to promise some sort of heavily edited “tell all” later on in return as well. Just my version of the puzzle though.
I just have a hard time with the idea of William “caring” about anyone. But then I’m convinced he’s psycho.
So he’s super traumatized when he has to do boring work, but suddenly okay when there’s a glitzy party?
Why are people cutting this odious ah so much slack? We have no idea what’s going on with Kate, because they haven’t shared anything.
And if was so worried about Kate,and her situation was so dire, why did he only very briefly visit her once while she was in the hospital?
I know William is notoriously lazy but this is a bit shocking to me. The royals’ whole thing is stability so it’s crazy to me that at a time when his father’s cancer diagnosis announcement being so recent that William would back out of something like this at the last minute especially with Kate also MIA. It invites a lot of speculation that i can’t imagine the Firm is happy about.
Whats the weirdest part to me is that they had confirmed his appearance; if this is just his laziness they shouldve pulled him from the program days ago and used the kids as an excuse. Instead they left it on the program which gives the impression that this was an abrupt unexpected issue and it’s either severe or he’s such an unserious person that he doesn’t grasp the ramifications that would come from this and thus is woefully not up to the task of his role -current or future.
Sky News announcing death of a minor royal’s husband, Lady Gabriella Windsor’s husband the son in law of Prince Michael of Kent.
It’s unlikely that would have caused W’s no show this morning, but it may eclipse it.
This person died Sunday too. But William disappearing will still be a big story especially if he’s not seen the rest of the week. They don’t care about the Kent’s son in law unfortunately. this will add to the doom surrounding the royals right now for sure.
I just saw that, so tragic.
Well given Gabrielle’s parents – the guys in laws – were at Constantine’s service today William shouldn’t try to use this as an excuse.
Right? Their son in law just died, yet they made it to this funeral.
They did, guess that reflects the high esteem in which Constantine was held. And makes W’s no show even worse.
I agree, the fact that they pulled themselves together enough to go, and Wills is a no show is awful.
Is Lady Gabriella Windsor attending this event? That’s what the article said because W wasn’t. Was it her husband who died?
There would seem to be no doubt that Kate is incapacitated, although the public does not know in what way. It seems that William is also incapacitated, although the public does not know exactly in what way. It does not seem William is capable of actually seeing to anyone or anything. I’m wondering how the children are. Nanny Maria and granny Middleton would be their support. This has got to be very traumatizing for the children. Whatever the shortcomings of their parents, one always got the impression that the children lived in secure environment and were loved and supported. Mind you, Charlotte already gives the impression that she’s been sent out into the world to hold up whatever her little shoulders can manage.
Just adding to my last comment- are we seeing another generation of young royals being traumatized, and the cycle continuing?
Another generation traumatized? I hope not, they don’t deserve that. But I remember when their father was a fairly innocent little thing too, I do hope that they are squirrelled away (perhaps at Balmoral, where outside information can be limited for awhile) until well after this breaks.
As someone who had an alcoholic parent — someone cancelled for him. Delusional drunk was all I CAN DO IT I”M FINE and someone, god knows who in that mess of an organization, pulled the plug at the last minute because he was drunk. Or had the DTs. Or was in that particularly fun state where you haven’t quite had enough to quell the DTs yet that morning.
His new secretary having a fun first few weeks.
Exactly
The DM is reporting that William’s absence is NOT connected to Thomas Kingston’s death: “It’s understood that Prince William’s absence from the memorial today was not linked to Mr Kingston’s death.”
What is the press strategy of giving piecemeal updates about what it is not, but refusing to elaborate on what it is other than “personal reasons”? Is William trying to send a message to someone? This is so weird.
I’m actually surprised someone at the palace confirmed it wasn’t in connection with that. You’d think William would want people to assume it might have been in connection with that, even if it wasn’t.
If they confirmed it wasn’t related, it means it *was* related. The way Kingston’s death was written up makes it sound coded for suicide/OD.
I guarantee William has been partaking in lots of alcohol and illegal substances. The same aristo crowd that Harry used to hang with are friends with William. Drugs/alcohol are also very prominent in the current government offices…just saying…
Seems like another battle between the royal comms teams. Will felt the heat he was getting from skipping the memorial and decided to leak Kingston’s death so the implied excuse would absolve him, and BP/the firm immediately made it clear that Will can’t use Kingston’s death to excuse himself when Lady Gabriella’s parents made it to the service. No, it seems very clear that the plan was to keep the lid on this at LEAST until this service was over and that every single other royal was on board with that until Will needed to save himself and so he essentially threw his grieving cousin under the bus, which should tell us all how desperate Will is. The clapback from BP/the firm also shows they’re getting sick of covering for him, they can’t keep it up much longer.
Looks like the personal matter might be tied to the sudden death of his cousin, Gabrielle Windsor’s husband
Except the parents who are old were at the funeral too despite their daughter losing her husband ..
When my father died I had a commitment that was important. It was only going to take 2 hours. I had plenty of time to be with my family. If the parents in law could attend, so could lazy Willy. What was he meant to be doing for the widow? He can’t look after himself let alone another adult.
That’s hard to believe since Gabrielle’s parents managed to show up for the memorial.
Julaine, I just read on another site that William’s no-show was NOT about Thomas Kingston’s death. I did read that Kingston was only 45 and they retrieved his body from somewhere, it seemed to me at an outside location. Heart attack? He was only married for four years. Foul play? The source immediately said the death was NOT suspicious. But how can they know that immediately? Doesn’t there have to be a post-mortem, autopsy or whatever? Strange.
@J.Ferber I’m with you, wouldn’t they have to wait until after the autopsy? The only way I can think of that a 45 year old, in seemingly good health, man’s death is immediately deemed not suspicious is if it was obvious he died by su*cide. I sincerely hope that wasn’t the case.
They usually report it as not suspicious if it’s obvious suicide, gunshot, hanging. He was Middleton adjacent, also, so that’s weird.
I read that he’d been involved in negotiating hostage releases in Iraq while working for the government. That’d suggest circumstances that might lead to some trauma. I think he was currently working moving huge sums of money around the world. That’d suggest other potential sources of distress. I wonder if we’ll ever find out if it was mental health related. The Windsors have such a terrible track record.
Alternately, some accidental deaths are very obvious.
Sudden and not suspicious could be heart attack. Sadly also more likely suicide at that age. Even if heart attack they have to do a PM. Suicide is usually pretty obvious
Two of my closest friends have died suddenly and not in a suspicious way in their forties. Both had a sudden, massive brain haemorrhage and no prior health issues. Nothing could be done to save them. One died in her sleep, the other collapsed on the floor after leaving the living room after wishing her husband, who stayed behind watching some movie, a good night. Half an hour earlier I’d been facetiming with her and everything seemed normal. This kind of unexpected deaths are not as uncommon among people in their forties as you might think. My heart goes out to Gabriella Kingston, this is a devastating loss for her.
Might have had a panic attack .
They can be vicious .
He is not coping with whatever is going on in his life , that’s obvious .
I was disappointed that William didn’t attend the funeral last year, he should have made the effort. This was the perfect opportunity for him to make up for that lapse in judgement and he threw it away. Maybe he thinks the Greek royal family don’t matter because they don’t actually have a throne, still if I was CP Pavlos I would feel slighted.
I think Willy boy is in Beeg Beeg Trouble. If he did what I think he did, it would come to involve the senior functionaries of the crown, and Scotland Yard. It could be that his movements are not necessarily his own to decide. All is being kept quiet, but I believe that a lot is happening behind the scenes.
Agree.
@Underhill — I agree. It’s not Willbur who has decided he’s not going to *work* in order to look after Kate and the kids, he’ll just do tightly controlled events like BAFTA and an investiture. It’s KCIII and the other senior royals who have him boxed into a corner. Now it’s up to the BaRF, government and legal experts to decide his fate, maybe even force him into giving up his place in succession in return for keeping whatever monstrous thing he did quiet. But the truth will out eventually.
For me, William’s demeanor at the investiture told the story. What William did was very very bad.
What do you think he did?
I think he pushed Kate like he pushed Harry but this time his victim hit something worse than a dog bowl.
Someone somewhere here mentioned that there were lots of grouse-shooting parties post Christmas at Sandringham … some “accident” then would track with the Royal cavalcade heading to London Clinic on 12/28 …
Yes, his “personal reasons” could be that he is not at “personal liberty” to travel anywhere. I wonder if there’s a William heliocopter tracker like they have for Elmo’s jet?
I remember watching Diana’s funeral in real time and feeling broken hearted watching her two boys being used the way they were to shield the Queen and Charles.
I know it’s unpopular, and maybe he truly doesn’t deserve it, but I feel a great deal of pity for William. Camilla played him like a fiddle. And now he’s isolated and alone, and probably an alcoholic too proud to seek help. Charles is reaping what he’s sown. Here he is, King of the last true royal dynasties, and he’s too sick to be there while they all bow down to him at last. It’s a fucking Shakespearean tragedy.
And There she is, Her Royal Majesty, the side piece herself. All shall bow down before her. The last Queen told her she wasn’t good enough and fuck if Camilla didn’t show her. QEII should have NEVER fucked with Camilla. Not two years dead, but there Camilla is, the only Royal who showed up in all her glory, the family she destroyed lying in tatters at her feet, while the rest of them all pay homage to her, The Queen. It’s also a comedy.
The British have really outdone themselves this time. What a story!!
Twist. If it was posted above I’m sorry but I just saw this on Twitter and had to report. Tom Kingston, Lady Gabrielle’s husband who passed away…is Pippa’s ex.
If only Harry had done something big, the previous day… 😆
I think William has Oppositional Defiant Disorder. It’s mostly diagnosed in children, but it fits.
What’s a dead deposed king gotta do, to get some respect from the Windsors?
William is WAY past the disorder stage.
Criminality. Threats to the monarch. Blah blah blah fishcakes.
This doesn’t rule out comorbid substance use disorder (in fact, the chances are higher than average), but there’s a reason they call these things “disorders”.
Can’t find the post up thread but I agree that Wm didn’t pull out on his own. Someone assessed the situation and cancelled for him.
Given that he bailed just 45 minutes beforehand, like other active alcoholics, he knew he might throw up, slur his words, or pass out.
I think that the press are holding out on giving any information on Kate for her kids sake. These kids are way younger than Harry and William when they lost their mom.
Is it not strange that the palace would voluntarily say that William’s absence has nothing to do with the death of Lady Gabriella’s husband? Who would have thought there was a connection in the first place? I understand the death was on Tuesday, so is it not strange that they would announce it on the day of the memorial for Constantine? Were they waiting for confirmation of something? If so, why not wait another day? I imagine the news would go on top of the reporting for the memorial.
This story has blown up today in social media. It is being covered everywhere. The hugest PR fail since the pegging story blew up… likely even worse.
The whole reason Constantine was living in England, he tried to become a real king. Either the people of Greece or the politicians booted him after that. This would be the number 1 reason chuck and William stays away.
The people of Greece are still demanding none of his family use their titles. They still do.