Princess Eugenie & Beatrice are ‘very upset’ they haven’t been asked to pitch in

For years, there’s been talk of the York princesses being drafted into full-time royal work. That’s what Prince Andrew wanted for Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie, for his two daughters to become “working royals.” King Charles always had other ideas, even when QEII was still alive. Charles always fought it. Now that he’s king, the Yorks are not being brought into any working-royal fold, although they’re still invited to family events and occasionally state events. Eugenie and Beatrice also have small charity portfolios and they both have full-time jobs. One might even say they’re part-time royals, half-in the institution. Well, now that Charles and the Princess of Wales have significant health issues and Prince William is solely obsessed with the school run, you would think that someone would suggest that Bea and Eugenie would step in for some of the lower-profile royal work? You would be wrong. From the Daily Beast’s Royalist:

Friends of Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie have said they are “very upset” but “not surprised” to have not been asked to carry out any royal engagements, while the threadbare royal family grapples with a double health crisis that has seen King Charles, Prince William, and Kate Middleton all step back from royal duties.

A friend of the young women told The Daily Beast: “It seems mean that the girls aren’t being used at all, when they have made it clear they want to be of service, especially when Prince Andrew has been accepted back into the fold. They have done nothing wrong, and they shouldn’t be visited with the sins of their father. They are very upset to have been ignored by the king as they feel they have a lot to offer, but, ultimately not surprised. They are sanguine about it.”

Another source, a friend of the wider family, told The Daily Beast: “Charles is very fond of the York girls but everyone, including them, accepts there is no place for them to be full time working royals. And as the late Queen Elizabeth made clear, being a part-time working royal isn’t an option.”

A former courtier, asked if the unavailability of Charles, William and Kate for public duties—leaving the monarchy with its official representatives being Queen Camilla (76), Princess Anne (73), Prince Edward (60) and wife Sophie (59)—pointed to the folly of cutting out the two younger royals (Beatrice is 35 and Eugenie is 33), said: “With hindsight you can make the argument that they should have been kept on, but a dramatic change of course now would not be helpful for anyone. The York girls have built successful lives as private individuals.”

Evidence of the king’s ongoing affection for his nieces can be found in the fact that since her 2020 marriage to Edoardo “Edo” Mapelli Mozzi in 2020, Princess Beatrice and her family have lived in a four-bed apartment in St James’ Palace, with two-year-old daughter Sienna and Edoardo’s older child from a previous relationship, Wolfie. They are understood to pay market rent. Eugenie, the younger sister, lives at a luxury golf and ocean club in Portugal, but spends time at her sister’s St James’ apartment when in the U.K.

Some believe, however, that if Charles and Kate were to be permanently sidelined, forced into greatly reduced roles for the longer term by ongoing health challenges, a Prince William regency would look desperately short-handed…This royal staffing time bomb is coming anyway, as the Waleses are unlikely to want their children becoming full time working royals until at least their mid-twenties. Their eldest child, Prince George, is only 10 right now. Some observers suspect that’s why the regular suggestions by associates of the Yorks that the daughters of Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson could be invited back into the family—even on that oft ruled-out part-time basis— continue to be floated.

[From The Daily Beast]

“Part-time royals are not allowed” is an argument they created solely for Prince Harry and Meghan and it’s biting them in the ass. It’s fun to watch too – despite the revisionist history that QEII was somehow vehemently opposed to part-time royals, she was actually fine with it for everybody else. Many of her “working royal” cousins had other jobs and they also represented the crown from time to time and were still “allowed” on the fakakta balcony. Prince Michael of Kent had a whole-ass Russian-consultation business (operated out of the palace) and he was a working royal for decades. The Duchess of Kent worked privately as a music teacher while she was also a working royal. There’s absolutely no reason why Eugenie and Beatrice couldn’t step in for some store openings and general ribbon-cuttings. Well, no reason other than Charles, Camilla and William’s jealousy, short-sightedness and pettiness.

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  1. Dee(2) says:

    Yeah this you can’t be a part time royal doesn’t make any sense. Not from a historical perspective of how they have handled things with the extended family and with the current situation. I can see not wanting the impression of a bunch of people being taken care of by the populace but they haven’t decreased the amount of money they are taking or palaces they inhabit, just the amount of people getting it. Harry and Meghan were offering to do it for free but they knew people would ask why the one’s who aren’t being paid and so it four months a year are more effective than the ones with it as a main job. Which means that now they can’t ( well they can when have they ever been consistent in relation to H&M) have Eugenie or Beatrice ribbon cutting and meeting with pensioners.

    • Bad Janet says:

      They’re lying. It’s because the York women, especially Eugenie, are still friendly with Harry.

      Cutting off your nose to spite your face.

      • swaz says:

        But why would two young women that are well educated would want to cut ribbons and open stores anyway 😏 Titles, titles, titles, I thought they opened every door on the planet for you or is that only for Meghan 😏😏

      • SamuelWhiskers says:

        I really don’t think it has anything to do with that, neither of them were ever working royals, so the current situation predates Harry leaving, it even predates Harry even meeting Meghan.

        They have never and will never be working royals because they’re not first degree relatives to the monarch and are minor royals who are far down the line of succession. Charles was clear he didn’t want loads of random cousins/minor royals living off the Crown. It’s that simple.

        Not everything has to do with H&M.

      • Bad Janet says:

        You’re right, it’s also entirely possible they’re dumb enough to exclude them because the slimmed down monarchy is working just fine in their eyes. Even when the cousins allegedly want to work for them and the only current working royals are aging out, too sick to work, or too busy doing the school run to meet half of their once or twice a week obligations.

        Cutting out anybody who is still in friendly relations with Harry is absolutely likely, though, and I’m surprised anybody would think it isn’t. They don’t trust him and probably don’t want anybody getting too close while they still have a friendly relationship.

        As for why Bea and Eugenie would even want to, that’s another story. Many guesses, none that compelling. Maybe the entire thing is a lie and they’re just as happy being left away from this mess.

      • Bad Janet says:

        Too late to edit my comment. I understand this is not a rule to exclude the York women specifically, or even Harry and Meghan. What I don’t understand is why they won’t relax the rule now that they’re complaining about suffering so much. They’ve been whining about how put out they are with their overloaded obligations since Harry left, and it’s only gotten worse since Kate and Charles went out of commission. When normal organizations need help and have the means, they bring on more help.

      • FlamingHotCheetos2021 says:

        To your last comment, the entire modern monarchy is built on a base of Christian martyrdom.

        Even before, when there were a million of them working and everything was going good, their chosen messaging half the time was all about how they could barely stand the job and the press but silently shouldered the burden and carried on for the good of the nation!

        So, they likely have no intention of changing anything, and possibly don’t even think anything NEEDS to be changed, they’re just playing it up to emphasize their ‘Good Christian Soldier’-ness.

    • ales says:

      Beatrice and Eugenie both have royal blood. Remember K has always been vile to them, her jealousy is always on show. A classless commoner with no aristocratic heritage, who behaves as though everyone is less than her, and all competition is removed. Nothing wrong with being a commoner, but her haughty superiority, media manipulation and desperation to constantly have her photos taken, shows that she has learned nothing.

      • blue says:

        I remember that B & E were very standoffish & dismissive toward Kate in her pre-wedding days. The sisters never showed friendliness toward Kate or included her in their social events. When QE announced that Kate had to curtsy to B & E when she wasn’t accompanied by hubby Will, that probably killed any pretense of friendship or fondness between the 3 women.

  2. ML says:

    Who is the source for this article?
    Paedrew does want his daughters to do royal work. Do both Beatrice and Eugenie want that? Or one of them?
    After reading the last post about InTouch mentioning William having alcohol and physical violence issues, and knowing that Tom Sykes usually reports from a KP/ W-friendly viewpoint, did this come from overwhelmed William or staff at Kensington Palace?

    • molly says:

      “especially when Prince Andrew has been accepted back into the fold”

      I think that’s your answer.

    • Kingston says:

      There’s a way to read these articles by the sycophants who write them while lying prostrate on their backs and bellies and kneeling in supplication all at the same time. This contortion distorts their words & meanings so the readers’ job becomes that of a detective/interpreter/analyst-of-palace-clownery.

      Fortunately, some of us readers are experts at deciphering the contortions of RF sycophantic scribes and hv identified a decoding formula.:

      interpret their meaning by applying Opposite Day tactics. So that, for example, the statement tht says Bea & Eugenie are “upset” at not being asked to become “working royals,” is meant to be understood as: “Bea & Eugenie WERE ASKED to become “working royals” but politely declined and the palace critters are upset wth them so they got their sycophants in the shitmedia to write these hit pieces on B&E.”

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Kingston, that’s what I was thinking–they don’t want to do it. Who would?

      • molly says:

        Beatrice seems slightly more interested than Eugenie, but I hope Eugenie and Jack have had several long conversations with the Sussexes about the downside of being “working members of the royal family,”

        The firm threw the future queen under the bus on Mother’s day! While she had CANCER!! It would only be a matter of time before the Yorks got thrown to the wolves as red meat too.

    • Kristin says:

      I get the impression that Beatrice would be very open to becoming a working royal, even part time, but I think Eugenie is completely over it. She has a cool job, a devoted husband, two adorable kids, and she still has a modicum of privacy. At the very least, she’s not being smeared on a hourly basis in the British press, so I can’t imagine why she’d want to step foot into that cesspool.

      I do think that pettiness and jealously are at the root of why the York princesses won’t be allowed to becoming working royals. Both girls (and their husbands) are attractive and stylish and youthful, and lord knows William and Kate can’t handle anyone taking any shine away from their dull asses.

  3. Jas says:

    I don’t even know which one of them is Beatrice and which is Eugenie. Years of reading the fug girls and now here, and I still haven’t figured it out.
    It would make sense to bring them back though. Charles and Kate might never resume full time “work” and William is decompensating before our eyes. There’s going to be no one left soon.
    Although, this might be wishful thinking on the part of the article writer. They both have successful non royal lives and no need to rejoin the circus that is the current set up.

  4. JD says:

    “if Charles and Kate were to be permanently sidelined” – uhm, that’s a euphemism for ‘dead’, surely? How grim.
    Plus,
    “especially when Prince Andrew has been accepted back into the fold”

    No further questions, your Honour…

    • Talie says:

      Yeah, I have been noting all these articles are being very clever slipping things in between the lines that tell the real story.

      • Call_Me_AL says:

        I think the real message here is that….there really is no need for ANY of the royals, anyway, so why “hire” part-time “help” and have to split the pie when there really is very little “work” of any significance to be done.

  5. Bad Janet says:

    real reason. Eugene is tight with Harry.

  6. fabulous says:

    The cover shot is a lovely pic of Eugenie.

  7. equality says:

    Bea and Eugenie have already done part time royal work by doing garden parties with QE. I doubt that Eugenie cares if she does events for KC or PW.

    • Tessa says:

      They are not working royals
      Their cousins including z a r a are seen at royal events but are not working royals

    • equality says:

      I am aware that they are not considered “working” royals, but they had the part in deal that PH wanted. They have jobs outside the RF, but they did do official events with QE, including garden parties. Supposedly QE would pay their expenses for those.

  8. Amy Bee says:

    Would they really want to become working royals at this stage of their lives? They have the best of both worlds and becoming working royals would mean the press intruding in their lives and makinf demands for them to show off their children. Nah, I don’t believe this story.

    • Friday says:

      Exactly this! Both would have to give up their private sources of income and cmon William and Charles would not be generous with whatever royal allowance they get. They would be the new ‘spares’ and would be used as a distraction from the nonsense of the other working Windsors. They would be required to use their kids the way the Wales do and deprive them of their fairly private lives. And frankly most of the royal events look super boring. Instead they get to do fun stuff like fly to F1 races and make money off of being royal adjacent. They and the Tindalls have the best deals in the whole family and frankly all of them look way happier than the working royals.

    • Shawna says:

      As @molly says above, perhaps this is coming from Andrew. In that case, he’d just be using his daughters to try to secure William’s aid, e.g., he could have leverage over William by saying that he needs to support the father of working royals.

  9. Mads says:

    Beatrice and Edo (the man loves the spotlight) would love to be “working royals”, Eugenie and Jack not so much as I think they like to be more independent. The line about the situation if Charles and Kate were “permanently sidelined”, is telling and just reinforcing my suspicion that their health is much worse than we’re being told.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Mads, I don’t think Beatrice would want to have to show off her daughter. I don’t think anyone has seen a picture of her, have they? (At least, not her face.)

    • Tessa says:

      Edo is not a royal. He is a married in. There is no monarchy in Italy now so he has no title of his own

  10. ohwell says:

    It would be smart to include the Yorks and have them do all the events the lazy Wales do not want to do.

    • Lady D says:

      …and they and their lives would be destroyed by the press to protect the ones “who count.” Their children, the way they parent, what they wear, how often they go out, it would never end.

  11. KASalvy says:

    I mean, Can’t and Won’t have been part time royals their entire career based off their work history…

    • Christine says:

      I think that’s the real reason they won’t let Bea and Edo (Eugenie doesn’t seem into it) undertake any royal duties. I have zero doubt they would be harder workers than the Wails ever were at their busiest.

  12. kirk says:

    At some point you’d think this idiotic institution would develop something in the way of job descriptions, or at least a job framework for them, for “royal” duties along with compensation guidelines. That’s the bare minimum needed to drag the sclerotic BRFCo into modern life. But what would I know about UK / Commonwealth culture wedded to the idea that they receive value in excess of actual governmental outlays and lost public income forfeited to duchies?

    Byline Times has recent article about taxpayers being on the hook for repairs at HMP Dartmoor Prison owned by Duchy of Cornwall after they discovered radon gas in excess of safe guidelines and had to evacuate 196 prisoners. Cornwall Duchy collects £1.5M in annual rent, but has no obligation for any repairs on the property. Sweetheart deal.

    • BeanieBean says:

      Oh for heaven’s sake–the Dartmoor issue. What a racket!

    • Smart&Messy says:

      Thank you for the info about the prison. I can’t imagine why the British public is not interested in this or the many other similar ones about the royals blatantly ripping them off. Those stupid calculations about how many pennies the royals cost for each individual per year sound especially uninformed and misleading in light of this.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “Cornwall Duchy collects £1.5M in annual rent, but has no obligation for any repairs on the property.”

      To be honest, this is true of many corporate, institutional and commercial long-term rentals/leases in the US.

      • kirk says:

        And of course we all have lots of control over whether triple net leases exist in corporate and commercial leases? Or how repairs responsibility is divided between lessor and lessee when conducted in arms length transactions? What’s the point?

        The reason I bring up the BT article is to help people take a look at situations where they could have some ability to exert influence over public fund expenditure. Especially when public funds are paid to private firms. UK taxpayers are frequently stymied when it comes to duchy control. The way those duchies are structured is bonkers – talk about shape-shifting nebulous entities.

    • Shawna says:

      They won’t come up with definitions because then they’d have to consistently abide by them. That takes away from monarch’s control.

  13. Truthiness says:

    Whooooeee, that’s a lot of entitlement, ego, and privilege to be upset over keeping the status quo. Plus Andrew’s daughters had bad blood with Kate from the jump, especially Beatrice. Let the monarchy end, it’s corrupt, medieval, and racist.

  14. Over it says:

    Sep this reasoning for why they can’t be bought In to work part time i a big fat lie. William and Kate have always been part time working royals . Some who are being completely honest might say they barely even managed part time

  15. WiththeAmerican says:

    Prince Michael of Kent ran a business some might call being a Russian asset, and he did so out of the Palace.

    In what world would jam selling be worse than a literal Nazi enabler, a Russian agent, or a pedo? Only for the Royal Family.

  16. Mel says:

    I can see Beatrice slightly caring but I totally think Eugenie is fine. She gets to keep a peaceful distance and stay out of the foolishness.

  17. Shawna says:

    Jack is a less llama-looking Benedict Cumberbatch in that photo!

    Charles not “using” Bea and Eug has nothing to do with their father’s criminal shames. Charles always meant to ice them out.

    • Jojo says:

      Exactly Shawna. Charles had determined that Andrew & his offspring would always be sidelined long before Andrew’s ultimate public disgrace.

      People forget Andrew’s lifelong envy of Charles as heir and his frequent attempts to overshadow/outdo him when he was the ‘young dashing prince’’ in juxtaposition to the ‘big eared tree hugging prince’ . Also, Charles’ envy of his brother because of Andrew’s better relationship with their parents and the constant negative comparisons their father would subject him to.

      Unlike Harry Andrew always wanted to be more important/prominent within the institution. He even tried to undermine Charles, using his sycophantic relationship with his mother, by making a bid for a hostile takeover when Charles was in the middle of his problematic marital & infidelity years.

      The behind the scenes sibling dislike & disfunction didn’t start with William and Harry’s generation. Charles likely takes tremendous pleasure in now having full control over Andrew & his family. As we know the king is definitely the type to hold onto a grudge & deal out subtle vindictive payback for any perceived slights, regardless of how long ago they happened.

    • Christine says:

      I don’t get it, Bea is RIGHT THERE, at St. James Palace. They don’t even have to fire up a helicopter to get her to London. It’s stupid to ice her out, when it’s obvious both she and Edo would love to undertake royal duties.

      You raised a lazy heir and encouraged him to marry a lazier woman. That’s on you, Chuck.

  18. ChewieNYC says:

    Who’s to say B wasn’t asked? I recall that she visited with Charles twice the day of the cancer announcement or the day Harry visited. Maybe it was discussed and she said no. Also, everyone says Edo craves the cameras but I haven’t really seen evidence of that beyond them showing up to posh events once in a while. They seem to keep their kids well under wraps so I don’t think they’re looking to raise their royal profiles.

  19. Tessa says:

    Andrew is welcomed back into the fold. He never left and is front and center. If William were not allowed to shirk there would not be this situation

  20. ChattyCath says:

    The BM describes many unsuitable relatives and married ins as ‘Royals’ such as the awful Tindall.

  21. ShoppeGirlMN says:

    Greed. You forgot greed. Except also for Wills and Chucks greed. They don’t want to have to pay the Yorks from the Royal coffers.