Well well well! The Duchess of Sussex sent Kris Jenner an American Riviera Orchard jam basket as well! That means that both Chrissy Teigen and Kris promoted ARO on their social media on Wednesday. I’m enjoying this slow-drip promotional release – Meghan didn’t send out the ARO gift baskets all at once, she’s parceling them out over the course of weeks. It’s driving the British media crazy – they’ve been crying non-stop for two weeks about JAM and Meghan’s celebrity pals. Kris was sent ARO jam #13, for those keeping track at home. (Sidenote: 13 is Taylor Swift’s lucky number, and given that the Swift-Kardashian beef has been in the news so much in the past week, this is a very funny coincidence.)
As you can see, Meghan also sent a note with the gift basket – that’s Meghan’s distinctive calligraphy on the envelope, and I’m dying to see what Meghan wrote to Kris. Kris basically only uses her social media as her position of momager and CEO of Kardashian-Jenner Inc, hyping her daughters’ businesses and posting photos and videos of her grandchildren. Meghan has now entered the Kardashian-Jenner promotional zone!
I wonder if Kim Kardashian will get a basket too. Both Kim and Kris posed for photos with Doria Ragland at a charity event last year, and the usual suspects are crying about how Meghan is “keeping up with the Kardashians.” I actually forgot that Meghan and Harry attended Ellen DeGeneres & Portia’s vow renewal, which was conducted by Kris Jenner. Kris was also in the VIP box with Meghan at one of Beyonce’s concerts last year. Oh, and apparently Harry was in Aspen with Corey Gamble recently? It seems like the Sussex-Kardashian connection has been humming along for some time. Good for all of them, honestly. Say what you will, but Kris Jenner could be an enormous help to the Sussexes.
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WOW. Her marketing is dead on, this is gonna blast off…… !
Yes, agreed. I really can’t wait!
This is like an advent calendar. Love it.
Go, Meghan! I’m starting to enjoy this rollout specifically because it is steadily dripping information on just how much American celebrities and influencers support Meg and Harry. Love it for the BM. And I completely support Meghan in utilizing her network in this venture, including the K/Jenners.
Kris Jenner looks scary.
Those cheek implants are something, aren’t they LOL?
Scary as her daughter’s pic yesterday.. well, all of them in the K Empire. The amount of work is frightening and truly sad.
It’s saavy of Meghan though – you can’t deny that.
Her nose job is scary. And her Madame cheek implants.
Yuck not a fan, but whatever. Business is business and the Kardashians are huge business. So it makes sense.
This has been a really cool rollout and fun seeing where the next gift basket will show up. Well done, ARO!
I’m not a fan either but Kris gets things done so this is a good thing.
Kris is also a master at ignoring haters and just hustling. So it’s an appropriate partnership with M&H
I want Harry and Meghan to make bank so they can well and truly be free of the horrifying abuse they experienced by Chuckie and Co. I’ve never wanted two strangers to get richer, more. This marketing ploy has a scavenger hunt quality, it’s great.
My sentiments exactly. As the saying goes, nothing personal – this is just business – I guess it goes both ways,
I will never like that family for the way they have exploited Black people(I say as a Black woman). Mama Kris definitely has questionable morals.
But honestly, it isn’t like the royals on salty island aren’t associating with faaaaaaaaaaar worse people all the time.
Meghan is using smart marketing to hype her brand. Her and her team are making smart moves. Just think about how much we’ve talked about this jam since it’s announcement. They are doing a really good job building excitement for this launch and reaching a wide audience.
Yuck was my first thought as well. Can’t stand that family.
Me neither. This is the first time I disagree with Meghan. If she wants to continue to be taken seriously why is she networking with that family. But as others point out, it’s business
Because “that family” is full of billionaires who know how to promote something and is currently one of the most prominent families in Hollywood today. From a business standpoint, this makes total sense.
I’m not a fan either, but I have said this for a long time: that family has more hustle and is more business savvy than almost anyone I’ve ever seen. I’ve always been impressed at how they made a billion something dollar business empire after being placed in the spotlight thanks to a sex tape. Lots of people (some with a lot of talent) get that kind of momentary spotlight, but very, very few of them are able to capitalize on it by building real, lasting wealth from that spotlight. To do that takes dedication, drive, planning, strategy, and smarts. I respect the hell out of that.
Definitely yuck
Yep, business is business. I am kind of holding my nose at this, but I also know it’s unfair of me because I’ve been actively saying for awhile that I wanted Meghan to get more commercial, more unserious, etc, to balance all the serious philanthropy stuff so that it doesn’t get sanctimonious.
All these ladies know exactly what they are doing. They are having fun driving the internet crazy while showing support for Meghan! It’s genius.
The ones who are foaming at the mouth are all the British tabloids because they wanted to get a basket of jam and lemons too. LOL.
I wish she would send the BM. Prince Not alot Wails, Kittie Keen.and grandpa KC each a basket of lemons
What a day for ARO.
First Chrissy with 42+ million followers, then the Momager of the KarJenDashians with ~ 52.5 million on Insta.
What a(n ad) campaign!
I never followed KUWTK, but to make the whole family billionaires out of a sex tape, that not only takes guts, but chuzpe.
I don’t follow the Kardashians either but I think it’s awesome if they help Meghan get her new venture to succeed.
This is pretty expert marketing. Regardless of individual feelings on any of the people who she sent the jam to they all have huge social media followings. This is a good way to low-key keep it in the background of people’s minds that you’re releasing something without being over the top with the promotion. And you can reach an audience that may not already be paying attention to Meghan because they don’t pay attention to any ” royal ” stuff. It also has the added benefit of absolutely enraging the British media who never know who is the next person to pop up with a little jar. Showcasing their deep well of acquaintances and their lack of need of the Royal machine to get ahead. I hope the “fans” complaining about Meghan not doing anything after announcing ARO, will trust her process.
You make great points
Everything you said plus I would add that anyone seriously complaining about Kris Jenner in this context or looking at the British royal family (and their history of centuries-long exploitation culminating in stolen lands, jewels and riches) vs. the Kardashians and saying, “Eek, Kardashians!” has seriously lost the plot.
I love the celebrity posts and I also secretly hope that some jam starts popping up on the timelines of the nonprofits she supports. Maybe 10% of the profits go back to Mayhew or the youth shelter she works with? It would be super cool if she did a collaboration with the Grenville ladies to add some unique international flavor to some of the jams and continue to support them.
Stop telling Meghan how to run her business and spend her money.
Do ya think Nutella Toast has a direct line to Meghan’s ear????
Jan it’s all speculating and gossip for entertainment. Meghan is not taking our advice
Here we go again. American Riviera Orchard is not a charity, it is a business. They’ve got Archewell, their charity arm, already giving away millions to worthy causes each year.
The Duchess herself donated money to fund a new wing at Mayhew not long ago.
WHY would she need to give away more of her hard earned money when the security needs of her family only continue to escalate each passing day? They have a house and grounds to upkeep and bills to pay and SECURITY to provide for themselves and their children.
If it’s not pocket watching, it’s telling them (especially her) how to spend their money. How about we give it rest and let the woman breathe? She hasn’t even launched the business yet. Good grief.
Agreed! Wouldn’t it be awesome if it was a B-corp?
@elizabeth – B-corp would be nice . It also would be nice if this jam (and other future products) would be organic or at least ethically produced esp. if ARO is going to be a big brand (so not from out of her backyard). Which also involves fair and livable wages for the people picking strawberries/other produce. I trust that H & M would like to run an ethical business, not just another capitalist venture. We have enough of those and this planet we all live on is slowly dying, so any help is welcome. And believe me, this is not about Meghan personally in any way, it’s just about the change I and many other would like to see in the world. I know Harry’s old man is not a favorite here, for understandable reasons, but despite his many faults, he’s been advocating for organic farming and talking about climate change since he was a young man. I’m dreaming of the day that organic will become the norm – and will be affordable (as it should be) for everyone.
@cath – agreed to all!
I don’t really follow the Kardashians/Jenners and what I do know of them I don’t especially like…except for Kris. For some reason I enjoy the clips I see of her (the cucumber cutting video never fails to send me into hysterics, especially when Kris says “you go girl” about cutting a cucumber) and she’s definitely the ringmaster of that billion dollar circus.
One of the things I like about these baskets is that its not just about Meghan sending them to high profile celebs in LA. She’s sending them to people she has a personal connection with – she didn’t just decide “lets see what Kris does with this,” she knows Kris, her mother knows Kris (someone said they’re in the same charity running group?), there’s a connection there, even if they’re not BFFs. Same with Chrissy Teigen. The british press can bitch about how this is all about Meghan sending the baskets to “influencers” but its not her fault she has friends with millions and millions of social media followers.
Say what you will, but it’s good to have Kris Jenner on your side. The woman has a family with access to billions of dollars and countless connections.
Ok this made me scream 😹 I absolutely love the uproar over the one two punch of Chrissy and Kris.
I wish I didn’t know about the Kris Jenner-Corey Gamble- P.Diddy connection. I enjoy celebrity gossip but that whole family is supported and connected to so much rot.
Um hold on. How can everyone be so ok with this considering the criticism that’s aimed at the Kardashians. By doing this,
Meghan has thrown her hat in with this crew. If you’re going to criticise others for dealing with the Kardashians, the same treatment needs to be applied here.
And as a final note, it’s strawberry jam, people. Not groundbreaking. And nothing like she’s demonstrated when she did the cookbook and her podcast. This reeks of basic influencer shiz and I’m disappointed.
Well, poor you, not being able to “influence” how someone else conducts her life.
@Equality
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Agree, NT. This is Basic Influencer 101, and the K Clan is tacky choice.
I’m loving this meltdown. LOL
I’ve learned that there are plenty of people that I’m friends with that others with criticize about choices they’ve made in their life, and I’m not going to stop being friends with them. There are family members that I have that you could do the same too and again I’m not going to stop talking to them. So I stay out of telling people who they can associate with. If you don’t want to support Meghan because you don’t like the Kardashians or you don’t like Chrissy Teigen or you don’t like Oprah then don’t. You don’t get to be mad about who she’s friends with though, because it’s her friendship not yours.
This is literally a gossip site with the word “bitchy” in the title. I don’t think any of us can take the high road and say we shouldn’t be “mad” about the choices of others.
@Aud And I think instead of on every single article about any business decision that Harry and Meghan do telling them how they should do it better, who they should donate money to, who they should associate with is getting ridiculous. If something’s a red line for you then it’s a red line for you and just say I’m good. This isn’t I don’t like that dress, I don’t like jam so I probably won’t buy any, this is literally I don’t think you should be associated with these people. I swear the parasocial relationships just really messes with people’s boundaries.
Oh I agree. But that’s par for the course here on any post about her. It’s like because she’s so criticized for stupid things on other sites, people here do the absolute opposite.
Yes, this can be an echo chamber. You differ from the overall opinion and it’s a fiasco. I’ve never seen Meghan criticized objectively here, and I don’t think I will.
Not all company is good company, even for marketing purposes.
Setting aside the Jenner/Kardashians, this is not “just jam.” It’s the roll out of a brand. I don’t expect any of Meghan’s products to be groundbreaking – what, groundbreaking tablecloths and dishware? What’s different is that it’s Meghan, her style and her brand.
As you say, her podcast and the cookbook – why would you imagine that a woman who produced those, who has a history of philanthropy, who took on P&G when she was 11, would suddenly do a 180 when establishing her business? It’s not logical.
Thank you. It reeks of concern trolling.
@Eurydice earning her username again! “True judgment.”
You know, it’s OK to be anonymous on the internet in order to confess abject ignorance about a specialised subject such as marketing and all the elements that go into the making of a global marketing campaign.
But one should not take out one’s ignorance and anger on Meghan, Thee Duchess of Sussex.
Through her life’s experiences to date, she has demonstrated that she is a woman who knows her shidt.
So just sit back and learn and enjoy the ride.
“Basic influencers” are not getting this kind of press, though.
It’s just Meghan’s second move for this venture (the first being the soft-launch IG/website combo). No reason to deem the whole business a failure now. Strawberry jam is just the beginning. If it doesn’t go deeper, you are free to stop being a fan. She’ll still make bank.
Oh, stop. I believe the phrase is ‘holier than thou’. Meghan is launching a brand new business. This is modern marketing, this is networking. You don’t have to like it, Meghan won’t mind. Nor will Kris Jenner or Crissey Tiegen, or their millions of followers.
Are the Kar-Crashians worse than Harry’s family? At least the KJs are not putting Meghan’s life and her family’s lives in danger.
They also work for their money and are able to make sound business decisions. Their family dynamics are also not nearly as toxic as the Windor one.
I am here to see the British press meltdown !
look at the comment above yours for a preview 🤣🤣🤣
But who are the ones actually melting down (here, not the BM)? The ones voicing an opposing opinion, or the ones going into overdrive to defend Meghan because there are those that *gasp* dare to criticize her? You can’t deny the Meghan (and Harry) stanning gets a little over-the-top around here.
I don’t deny it but the post above is definitely melting down – “its jam, its not groundbreaking!!!” (does everything M does have to be groundbreaking?) “its basic influencer shiz!!” So?
Its melting down under the guise of “I’m disappointed she’s not doing exactly what I want her to do” which is pretty similar to how the BM reacts.
There is a level of concern trolling to some of these comments and yeah, they’re going to be called out 🤷♀️
@smcollins, sure there are over-defenders (myself included), but this is in the context of institutional and media and social media bullying that’s put their lives in danger. Including their innocent children. So if things are extra on this website, there’s a history behind it. Of course, you’re still free to call it out, and you won’t strictly be wrong, but your point will be decontextualized.
@SMCollins, wondering why you qualify criticizing Meghan as an opinion but defending her is not.
You’ve also qualified everything that agrees with your position as basically reasonable whilst criticizing anyone disagrees with your opinion as being over the top etc.
In the larger global cultural context of Everyone Criticizes Meghan, you can’t really claim that criticizing her is an “opposing opinion.”
It seems like the real issue is a desire to control what people on *this site* (the only site that isn’t full of demented hate for her) say, in that you feel your criticism should go unchecked.
In other words, your point is that criticism of Meghan is an opinion that shouldn’t be criticized, but anyone defending Meghan is in “overdrive” and therefore should be criticized.
Only the Devil works harder than Kris Kardashian ( I read that somewhere). I can’t stand them but if it puts Rota knickers in a twist, I’m here for it.
Same! This is just fun.
I have to say that the Sussex’s “friendship” with the Jenner/Gable/Kardashian clan has always made me uneasy, while Kris certainly has incredible business sense, service to others and philanthropy is not something one associates with them. I love to see Meghan and Harry being successful in their business endeavors, I just hope that this association doesn’t bite them in the end.
Same here. I don’t like the Kardashians or Chrissy Teigen. I get they both have huge reach and it’s a marketing strategy, but not they are not people I would like to be involved with.
Meghan’s not “involved” with them other than they’re acquaintances in the same charity circles. Giving them a jar of jam does not equate to anything other than a cute promo for her product.
Agreed.
My personal thought about this as someone who can’t stand the Kardashians is that this is why Meghan is going to be even more successful.
She is able to be friendly with all kinds of people and she can also play the game to some extent. She did this for the British Royal family and they didn’t appreciate it.
It doesn’t mean she isn’t a person of integrity. She is, by all accounts.
The only people upset by this to the extent we see way above your comment are people who can’t play the game, fail at it, or believe themselves to be of such high moral standards they would refuse to give jam to anyone who doesn’t pass their integrity test.
Tacky people buy jams and housewares too. In the grand scheme of evil in this world, the KJs rank pretty low.
I’m just loving this.
Am I alone in thinking the brand name is just too clunky?
No-it’s clunky. I also couldn’t stand “The Tig”-that was pretentious and twee.
Definitely clunky. I think that’s why a lot of people, myself included, shorten it to ARO. Then again, it’s not even in the same league of clunkiness as Royal Companion of The Order of the Companions of Honour.
+1 to clunky.
It’s a mouthful but it’s growing on me. I think it’s fine and getting used to it. I kinda like it. Also can just call it ARO.
I low key want her to send jam #50 to Taylor… then let the haters and garbage media in the UK take on the Swifties. It’s how the American Riviera Revolution will be won.
I hope Duchess Meghan sends her jam, lemons and pedestal bowl to Jill and Joe. The Windsors and British rags would never recover!
This is the one I’m waiting for – except that I think she would send it to their granddaughter – the one who lives in the White House(?), because the haters would crucify Jill if she posted about it. But… she did wear that lemon dress after Meghan did, so perhaps it’s not such a far-out idea!
Low key earthquake would happen if FLOTUS Dr Jill were seen near a jar of strawberry jam right now! We know she loves lemons 🙂
@K8
And Beyonce.
Just imagine
There’s no way Beyonce isn’t going to get a jar, right? The question is if Beyonce wants to share that fact with the world.
I think Meghan should have sent one to Taylor and Beyonce BEFORE sending one to Kris or any of the Kartrashians.
Let’s not forget the rivalry (Bey and Tay dislike Kim for different reasons). I doubt that Taylor or Bey would even feature or help Meghan out with ARO just out of spite for the Kartrashian connection. Maybe Bey, but still. Remember she didn’t think highly of Kim while she was with Kanye and only associated with her because of the Jay/Kanye “friendship”
Think about it. Both Bey and Tay are leaders in their field. I would find it insulting to be an afterthought to a Kartrashian.
The jam is driving them mad. I’m waiting to to see if Charles’ jam starts being sent to British influencers. They are that type of copy keening and petty.
I’m guessing there might be a little customs issue with sending fresh produce, like lemons. Not sure, but there may be extra inspections or something & I’m guessing the lemons might end up a little sad looking by the time they’d get there.
@BeanieBean – My obsession with Wensleydale cheese led me to find that to be correct. Sneaking it out in my suitcase years back was no problem, but having the creamery ship it to me directly is verboten. Even with dry ice and a cold pack. *sigh*
@MoonThe Loon, Wensleydale! ❤️❤️❤️
@MoonTheLoon: I’m a fellow cheese enthusiast. No relation, but I’ve been happy with my orders from these guys.
https://igourmet.com/products/wensleydale-cheese
Meghan is a networker and Kris knows all he right business people and social contacts. Good call, Duchess.
I guess if getting people to sit up & take notice is the goal, then sending to Chrissy & Kris is a good plan.
Personally, I would not ever want my brand new lifestyle brand associated with Chrissy. Her past & her refusal to accept any responsibility (indeed, she actually tried to become the victim) negates any positive influence she could have, ever.
Ditto the Kardashians. If money is all they are after, which is fine, then so be it.
You’re known by your company, so I hope they don’t come to regret these people speaking on their behalf.
And no, I’m not a troll. But Chrissy is trash, every time. Her “cooking” is trash too.
So people should always be defined by their “past”? There is no room for growth or change?
You sure this is the hill you want?
Cause Chrissy told a young woman to kill herself, more than once, on Twitter. She refused to this day to take ownership & instead talked about how her mental health was being harmed by people calling her out.
So no, she hasn’t & wont change, but well done you! You’ve shown exactly who you are here, so we’re done.
Oh wow. You know what, I don’t follow Teigen stories so I don’t know what she has taken ownership of or anything else. Only read this one because it had to do with Meghan. It seems more that it’s the hill you want. Way to be passive-aggressive ( or maybe just plain aggressive).
I’m sure you’re perfect and have never put a foot wrong in your life. Teigen’s been diagnosed with anxiety, post-partum depression and alcohol dependency, and she’s worked diligently to overcome these issues. You’re painting things in black and white when there’s a lot of grey in between. We all know Meghan is a very compassionate woman and tends to see the good in people instead of instantly turning against them, that’s one of her strengths.
I’m rooting for Meghan and the brand, but Chrissy and the Kardashian-Jenners are not the Hollywood friends I hoped she and Harry would make. I hope ARO proves me wrong, because after years of slow rollouts and re-brands I’m starting to think there isn’t much “there” there. Are Harry and Meghan more compelling than the rest of the royals? Absolutely…but that isn’t a high bar to clear. Peter Phillips’ recent interview really highlighted how thoroughly insipid that family is. Devoid of charisma. I’ll watch anything they put on Netflix, but the polo series idea really emphasized that the scope of their interests isn’t exactly vast. If William were doing a polo show for the BBC he’d be clowned to the ends of the Earth and we all know it.
What re-brands and rollouts have Meghan done before this? If William was doing a polo show on the BBC he would be praised to high heaven.
I’m going to answer your question in a sincere way and I hope that those are the types of responses I get. It’s just kind of an overall sense of nothing quite coming together on a consistent basis even when expectations are super high, like with the Spotify deal that came to very little (the podcast was fine, successful and cleverly marketed with a good name, but it was a very small amount of content for the amount of time they were contracted with them). I like the change of platform and I’ll give her credit for picking a platform that’s smaller and women-driven rather than moving to Audible. I am kind of mystified by all the different websites (three now I think…what was wrong with the Archewell website?) It hasn’t been a bad few years, it just hasn’t quite been what I’ve expected and I don’t think there is a master plan (or at least there wasn’t until fairly recently). None of what I’m saying is influenced by British media reporting; I despise the British press coverage of them and I do not consume it except when I see it here. At the same time, I’m not a stan for anyone and I will have critical opinions even about people I like. Whatever they’ve had cooking in the last four and a half years, it hasn’t amounted to much. I stand by my comment about the polo series (which I will nevertheless watch anyway out of curiosity); if William were doing it, he’d be clowned, and we’d all be the ones doing the clowning. The Invictus series was genuinely good because the stories and individuals it focused on were compelling. That other series they put their names on for Netflix after it was already produced (something about leadership or whatever) was blah. I hope Megan’s cooking/lifestyle show is something special and a high quality product. I trust it will be, and I understand exercising extreme caution with everything they do because they’ve been built up into such cartoonish hate figures. I’m rooting for them to deliver something that wows me that isn’t about their private lives. I hope ARO and everything associated with it is that thing.
You say you don’t read the British press but you spout their talking points. I think splitting the websites was an excellent idea. Harry and Meghan’s business dealings should be separate from the foundation’s work. Regardless of Meghan’s success the British press is going to bash her as long as she refuses to play the game and remains outside of the Royal Family. When has William ever been clowned for anything he does by the British press? When he makes slip up the press covers for him. He plays the game so he only gets positive press and he has been praised for everything he has done since he joined forces with press against Meghan and Harry.
I answered you in good faith, honestly based on my own perceptions and completely free of snark. I’m sorry I wasted my time. You will not badger me into adopting a stan mentality. I didn’t spout anyone’s “talking points” and I think you know that. Don’t want the answer, don’t ask the question. Good day!
@Jessica: Where is the snark in my comment? I just said some of the observations you made sound like those pushed by the British press. You’re free to disagree with me. But this is what happens when people get confronted about repeating the tabloids.
@Jessica
I was prepared to hear you out so I could see your justification for saying:
“…because after years of slow rollouts and re-brands…” But you failed. In fact, despite denying that you read the british shitrags, this notion of M “rebranding” is straight from the arseholes of the Fleet Street sadists, as H refers to them.
So I read your entire spiel for evidence for your statement: “I am kind of mystified by all the different websites (three now I think…what was wrong with the Archewell website?)” and again I wondered what had happened to your usually insightful comments in these streets. Because this is classic veering, goal-post moving and obfuscation thats endemic in troll posts…..you know what I mean right? They cant produce evidence for statements they make about M so they instead become even more obscure, unclear and ultimately unintelligible.
PS:
Nothing is or was “wrong” with Archewell. What H&M have done is EXPANDED their online universe, incorporating Archewell Foundation, their philanthropic arm and Archewell Productions, their media content creation arm, under the umbrella of their entire public existence, i:e the House of Sussex, i:e sussexDOTcom. And they were only able to embrace their true Sussex name/identity AFTER Prince Harry’s FATHER BECAME KING. And as you might recall, chucky’s accession to the throne occurred at the death of betty in Sept 2022.
You and I have no idea what wranglings behind the scenes (legal and otherwise) they had to go through in order to take whats theirs. But we got an inkling when H&M took the initiative to give their children their rightful Prince and Princess titles when BP tried to swerve on them (thereby proving M right when she told Oprah that the Machiavellians were planning NOT to give Archie the title of ‘Prince’ when chucky became king.)
Between September 2022 and Feb 2024 when sussexDOTcom was launched, is 17 months. Are you aware of all that the Sussexes have achieved in those 17 months, the most critical of which has been their ongoing and never-ending battle with “powerful forces” coming at them in a million different ways because the ultimate goal of said powerful forces is to see them dead?
I must tell you, I am exceedingly disgusted more by so-called supporters of H&M than by hateful trolls, who seem to believe that H&M’s real life is reel life, created and serialized just for the entertainment of folks who either have no lives of their own or not enough life-experiences to realize that altho they know nothing about H&M’s life, they know enough to know that if you have all the state apparatus of an entire nation actively wanting to see you dead, then H&M’s ability to not only stay alive, but thrive and remain true to their ethos of kindness and compassion for others, means they have already won at life.
@Jessica, “the podcast was fine?” Seriously? With all those listening hours and awards? Under your very high standards, Meghan could become president or write the best-selling book of the 2024 or save an entire burning building’s worth of people but she would just be “fine.”
@Jessica – If Harry and Meghan had started out 4 years ago with an established network in a healthy world, I would agree with you. But they pretty much started out with nothing. Sure, they had some money, but not nearly enough for the security they required. Harry had his name, but was cut off from his entire network, which is basically that the RF is related to everybody and has control over much of the media. And Meghan had her network weakened as well.
On top of that, they had a child, a miscarriage, another child, the recovery from a traumatic experience, and all during a global pandemic and incredible pressure from the media. I think the first few years were a bit of an uncoordinated scramble – to take advantage of opportunities, to meet obligations, to live a healthy family life, to develop and maintain their charitable interests, to counter the BM’s narrative, to envision a plan and infrastructure for their future. That’s a lot for only two people to balance and the possibility of spectacular failure was very high. I’m exhausted just thinking about it.
For any everyday person, establishing and maintaining the Invictus Games would be enough – nobody would expect that person to do more. Writing a best-selling memoir would be enough, establishing and maintaining a charitable foundation would be enough, just having a family life and raising two children would be enough. But, those for H&M and those against both seem to expect that H&M should be superhumans – either superheroes or super villains – that having done all of the above and more just isn’t enough. The fans want to see more and success, the haters want to see more and failure. I don’t get it.
Like you, I hope ARO is a success and I’ll watch the polo show, even though that world doesn’t interest me. But I won’t be disappointed by what H&M have achieved so far. Mostly, because what they do really doesn’t affect me personally, but also because I’m impressed that they’ve managed to stay alive in all of this.
@Jessica I hope you take my response to be sincere. I have to ask what was your expectation for what they would be doing? In my view they have balanced the philanthropic aspects they are interested in NAACP digital award, partnering with VaxLive, still working with Sentabale, partnering with Mom’s for Action, with more commercial ventures like Archetypes, Netflix shows, and ARO because they have bills to pay. I wonder if some expected them to solely be in a philanthropic space like Mackenzie Scott but that wasn’t feasible for them because they didn’t start out with a ton of seed money. I think the real issue for a lot of supporters is that they projected a lot of their own feelings about about a variety of issues (and people they liked and didn’t like)onto Harry and Meghan and just assumed that they would always be lock step with them. That’s not really the case though. I think it’s fine if you don’t really vibe with the more commercial stuff because it doesn’t appeal to you, but I would say there’s a difference between saying that’s not my thing and you shouldn’t be doing that
I think my original comment encapsulated my expectations pretty clearly. You are of course free to disagree. It’s generally not a good idea to alienate people who are mostly on your side just because their opinion isn’t fully in lockstep with yours. Best of luck to Meghan and ARO.
Ok so you weren’t really trying to have a conversation, cause I’m not sure how anything I wrote would have ” alienated” you. I just wondered how what they are doing didn’t really meet your expectations and discuss that further but you seem to want to be aggrieved so cool.
I think with all those philanthropic endeavors listed, I get why some are disappointed that Meghan has focused on this instead of projects or endeavors that emphasize and are grounded in their philanthropy. Maybe it’s not serious enough to some. I like the podcasts and the forums and causes but those don’t fund themselves. In some ways Harry has found his footing more since the move and he is treated with more respect, by fans and foes. I think Meghan has a passion for things like this sphere, look at the Hubb cookbook and the current kitchen project with Afghan refugees, and wants to channel that. At the same time she wants to showcase herself as a real person because she’s tired of being the villain. This ARO venture is being treated by some as a lark or out of character but who knows. They have ways of tying things together so wait and see.
@Jessica you can’t say you want to have a conversation in good faith and then peace out when there’s follow up. I know these comments can get a little “H&M can do no wrong” so i’m trying to read your comments with the sincerity and good faith you say you have but its hard when your response is “okay bye.”
I had the same question as @Dee2 – you said “It hasn’t been a bad few years, it just hasn’t quite been what I’ve expected” so I think its reasonable to ask what you expected. And no your original comment did not make clear what your expectations were/are.
When you said there didn’t seem to be a clear master plan….that’s because there wasn’t. Harry and Meghan have both admitted that. They didn’t have a master plan when they fled to Canada and then again to LA as the world was entering lockdown due to a global pandemic. They signed with Netflix because they needed money due to security concerns, Harry has said it kept him up at night.
So I think for the first two years they were trying to figure out what was next, while under pressure to “produce” because of the Netflix and Spotify contracts. I think if we look back at the last year or two, that gives us a much better picture of what they are going to do going forward – some commercial ventures, some philanthropic ventures, and even the commercial ventures will have a philanthropic bent (like Heart of Invictus with Netflix, or Meghan’s investment with small women-led businesses like Clevr Blends.)
It’s generally not a good idea to demand a sincere conversation and then flounce off because people aren’t saying “hey, you know what, you’re right, the polo series is stupid.”
@L4FRIMAIRE thank you for the good faith reply. I can get that. I’m sure for the people that follow Meghan or did follow her before her relationship with Harry because of her volunteer work, work with the UN and USO they think this is lightweight and she has more interesting things she could be doing. But I also understand that Meghan isn’t that person anymore. They must have astronomical costs that they didn’t have because of a right wing campaign against them and she has to make money. And if making money can be done and also encapsulates a passion she already had, interior design/cooking etc. it makes sense to me that this is her priority. Maybe once they make and invest a certain amount they’ll feel confident enough to go full throttle with only philanthropy or maybe not. Who knows.
@Dee(2): You’re absolutely right.
Why is the scope of their interests supposed to be “vast”? Do you expect all celeb’s interests to be vast? Is everything they do supposed to be only for your approval and consumption? Supposedly they shopped quite a few things to Spotify only to be turned down because what Spotify really wanted was royal gossip.
@Jessica, why do you have expectations over what someone , who you don’t even know, does? I don’t think they can do no wrong, everyone makes mistakes but I think they’e been very deliberate. The first thing they did was was set the record straight, that was the Oprah interview and the book. It’s done. She decided to do Archetypes but Spotify wanted royal gossip, they were over it. So she found somewhere else to do her broad cast. They have a production deal with Netflix, they’re fulfilling it, if polo isn’t your thing, don’t watch. It’s not mine either but there’s an audience for it. They’ve figured out what they want to do. This is a good way to roll out. Maybe not have a hard idea about what anyone should do aside from yourself?
@BeanieBean – that’s what’s so pernicious about the Royal Family propaganda. Even those who are die-hard “Down with the King” get caught up in the fallacy that the RF is about service to the people. It’s not. It’s about service to the Crown. And maybe it’s the whole “Good King Harry” fairy tale, but it seems people want H&M to be more royal than the royals, instead of just being good human beings.
I tend to agree.
I don’t find this product or brand very compelling. I definitely understand that they have some very expensive needs, like security, however it just seems like there is nothing new about celebrities hawking expensive products to us and using influencers to do it.
I’m just not sure that I see the value provided here. Maybe I did set my expectations of Harry and Megan a bit high, perhaps because of my disdain for the Royal family and the concept of royalty period, but this all just seems so culturally meaningless. Are we all going to see this jam sitting in a random discount store one day? Maybe.
I think we will. And this is what I’m trying to get across about some of the comments about Harry and Megan and I hope it doesn’t come across as cheerleading. But that happens with all brands. That’s why you can go to Nordstrom rack, TJ Maxx, Marshalls or Ross or go to websites like the real real and buy discounted luxury items. It’ll definitely be spun as a failure for them though, just like they did when Spare was marked down. I just don’t understand why we have these expectations of everything that they do being or having to be Nobel / Fields/Pulitzer worthy.
So I think this is why these comments are getting some pushback/attack – its because the expectations do seem a bit high. Why does everything Meghan and Harry do have to be “culturally meaningful?” Honestly, a lifestyle brand seems pretty on brand for her – she did capsule collections while in Toronto, the Tig seemed like one step away from a lifestyle brand, etc. Meghan loves cooking, she loves home life, she loves gardens – it makes sense that she is trying to bring all that together under one brand.
I feel like people were expecting H&M to be like Mackenzie Scott and just sprinkle millions around the country to various endeavors. But they aren’t at that level yet quite honestly. And even for the part-time offer back in 2019/2020, they were planning on earning their own money and paying their own way.
If this literally isn’t your jam, then fine, to each their own. Goop is not mine, LOL. But I guess I’m just not sure what people were expecting from H&M at this point.
@Elo: Meghan was a lifestyle blogger before she met Harry and her dream was to have a cooking show and to expand the blog. She’s just returning to her roots and what gave her the most joy and satisfaction. I get that some of you want her to be her be higher than she intended for herself but this is what she always wanted to do and she has to make a living.
@Elo – we haven’t seen anything yet except some design work (the calligraphy, a color palette) and 1 product. Being disappointed already is extremely premature.
I am flabbergasted at the amount of ink, time and air about JAM!
Five bazillion important things happening and we argue about JAM!
Now, H&M have to earn A living. They have bills same as everyone else.
Do I give a hoot about Polo? Hell no! How bout *bespoke* anything? (Nah, ill look at the pretty pictures as I put on my jeans). The Kardashian family? (I can proudly say I’ve never watch ANY of their stuff). But its great marketing and I won’t fault that!
Am I a H or M ‘stan’? Hardly. I’m more just anti British Monarchy.
Enough about JAM and hard to swallow brand names.
I think the ‘expectations’ people have had for Harry & Meghan are rooted in the premise that the British Royal Family are all about service for the greater good, in all arenas, at all times–culture, arts, military service, etc. Nothing but get out there & support good deeds! Except they don’t, really. But somehow or other H&M are expected to carry on that faux life. They have to make a living & how they choose to do it is their decision to make, much as anyone posting here.
@Beaniebean I agree and I think that’s why these conversations always irk me a little more than others. Because it’s an expectation that other people don’t even reflect in their own lives. I just don’t think that you can finger wag about who people associate with, when there’s plenty of people on this very website who I’m sure still go and pick up snickerdoodles from gangan even though she voted for Donald Trump, know or themselves are guilty of cheating on significant others and are still friends with them, and still hang out with their cousins even though they’re always sharing transphobic YouTube videos in the family group chat. We’re all guilty of this type of behavior and I’m just not going to tell a perfect stranger that they’re not upholding some ideal I have for them when I know I can’t do that for myself.
I think part of the expectation for me at least, was a misunderstanding of who Megan is in reality. Or who she desires to be. There is nothing wrong about what is being done here- the brand, the jam, the Kardashians, it’s just more regular and down to earth, and attainable than expected.
“not the Hollywood friends I hoped she and Harry would make” – are you under the presumption that Hollywood is about love, charity, and equality? Hollywood is about selling images. Either they do Hollywood or they don’t. They can’t change what Hollywood is any more than they could change the Royal Family.
It’s about networking. It would seem that some people don’t understand this.
@Amy Bee, totally. Meghan isn’t a Disney princess; she’s a real person with bills and tastes that go beyond pure charity.
As someone who worked in Hollywood with a list movie stars, can I just say: exactly.
“Hollywood” is about networking and just like any other industry including being a “royal”, is full of people with a lot of power and less scruples.
For evidence, I offer Prince Andrew.
William is the next King and Harry is way down the line, so why are you comparing them? Do you really think the standards for business decisions are the same for someone who is taxpayer funded as for someone who is making their own living?
WiththeAmerican — agreed. Kris knows everybody. And is a total professional who leaves a good impression on people she chooses to work with and associate. It seems M and Doria have an actual friendship with her and I’m here for it! I’m glad to see she is posting about the ARO jam and I love watching the haters freak out over a condiment. 🤣
Don’t forget: they’re also raising two small children. That’s extremely time-intensive work.
@Jessica,
it was brave of you to offer very mild and polite criticism, I’m sorry you have gotten eaten alive for it, as always. I am absolutely exhausted by this all-or-nothing mentality, where if your way of supporting someone isn’t 100% aligned with mine, I will dog you just as hard as my worst opponent, if not worse.
This is straight out of Beyoncé’s Ivy Park playbook. Everytime there was a new collection, she’d send it to a bunch of celebrities and they’d do an unboxing or they’d thank her for it. The jealousy is unreal, they don’t need you and you know it and you’re terrified! The Rota and the family FAFO.
I believe Kim Kardashian got her jar of jam too, she’s very good at marketing just like her Mom. Even Lauren Sanchez is close with the Kardashians and takes social media tips from them. They are smart business women, great marketers.
Regardless of how some people might feel about Kris , there is one fact that can’t be ignored or denied. Kris has many half black grandchildren, she also has some all white grandchildren. In kris eyes , there are no different. She loves every single one of them openly. Warmly and 100 percent In . She does not discriminate . I don’t know any of these people but perhaps what drew Meghan to kris was her open love to her mix raced grandchildren . The fact that the color of their skin did not determine how much love and acceptance and affection They all receive equally. And for this fact about kris . I stand this friendship. Not like anyone cares what I think
Excellent perspective, I never thought of this!
That’s actually a sweet perspective to look at it from. Thanks for sharing that @overit
This is a good perspective. and I think we everything we know about the Kardashians, I cant see Kris Jenner evicting her child from a property they paid for and renovated and then whining about how her children won’t let her see the grandchildren.
I do like this perspective. I’ve never been a fan of the Kardashians. Don’t watch their show and don’t follow them but they’re everywhere so I see things from time to time and as far as I can tell they seem to have some problematic spots (which is totally judgment since as I said, I know little to nothing about them). That being said, one thing that does seem to stand out is them having each other’s backs and in the cutthroat business they’re in, I respect that. I’ve caught glimpses here and there saying Kim and Kourtney don’t get along but the whole family seems to put on a pretty united front. Rob opted out from being on cameras but all the kiddos seem to be growing up close and I think that’s lovely and actually says at least one good thing about them.
People have said it much better than I can but there are these really high expectations that only seem to exist for M&H. The only ppl I don’t personally know that I have expectations of are politicians who can actually affect my life. [If I was in the UK then I’d also have expectations of the BRF since they get taxpayer money]. I like some celebrities more than others (as far as I can tell) but I don’t at all think they’re perfect or only have wonderful associations. Someone made the very valid point that our own lives likely would not withstand such scrutiny and I wholeheartedly agree. It’s a gossip site so opinions like “huh, I’m not sure i get the marketing” or “I don’t love that outfit” are well expected but feelings of disappointment re ppl none of us know/are funding seem odd but hey, that’s just my 2 cents.
I see people criticizing her sending these two particular women a gift basket, but come on. What if they didn’t get one? She’d never eat lunch in this town again, as they say. Good business and good manners. Meghan and Doria have socialized with Kris, she’s known Teigen from back in the day, she’s a food influencer ( I follow her food stuff) and I’m sure she reached out to her after her miscarriage since they both experienced that loss around the same time. Jenner and Teigen, despite their numerous character flaws, are not easily intimidated and give as good as they get. Teigen’s bacon, jam grilled cheese sandwich made us all hungry and get the palace to put out an authentic, clear 4K video if Chuck’s jam being spread on various breads. Most direct thing they’ve done in months. Because of 50 jars of Montecito jam.
All I am saying is if Duchess Meghan wants to send me a jar of jam (and I am a certified nobody y’all) I wouldn’t be mad 😁
I like how at ease and relaxed Doria looks with Kris and Kim. Kris have a great sense of humor. I only watched the first season but I remember she was funny.
I would really like a basket…
To piggyback off the point @becks made above and someone else did as well in some ways: I don’t walk through this world weighing every decision and action against some unreachable cultural impact -o-meter. Even with the heightened awareness and platform they exist on H+M shouldn’t have to either. Harry’s path forward is a lot clearer than Meghan, his military career and life experiences give him the credibility for Invictus and supporting vets. Plus, he hasn’t been nearly as vilified as Meg. ARO moves her back into the space where she’s simply trying to be humanized again. This is pre-Harry Meghan. And it’s the most genuine version of how she identifies. She loved life, good food, travel/culture and her friends. I didn’t start rooting for them because Meghan was a saint. I started rooting for her because she was a HUMAN and that was being stripped away in the public domain in a way I have never seen. I will not always agree with every move she makes, I will not always understand how H+M show up and where, but I recognize that “we” can be just as guilty as the derangers when they don’t show up the way we expect them to. Two weeks ago, H+ M raised $1 million to support young people in Africa living with Aids. This week she’s sending jam to her friends. That’s OK! A few months ago she spoke on a panel that got international attention about women’s representation in media/entertainment. They’re allowed to do things because they have an impact on our world AND do things that they just enjoy. It doesn’t have to all be synergistic and altruistic to have value. They have a whole staff and they know what bills need to be paid/what will pay the bills. As much as I would love Feminist Meghan hitting the speaker circuit to pay all her bills, I don’t think it will. It’s a passion of hers, but not the only one. You don’t have to be a stan or blind cheerleader to pause and check your heart before you critique their choices.
I think this just sums up so much of the past 6, 7 years –
” I didn’t start rooting for them because Meghan was a saint. I started rooting for her because she was a HUMAN and that was being stripped away in the public domain in a way I have never seen.”
I don’t need Meghan to always be trying to save the world. That’s not why I became a fan of hers. I became a fan because she seemed like she was just trying to make the most of her platform while being a loving wife and now raising her children and also bringing some fun and enjoyment into the mix. Not everything they do is going to be the next Invictus Games and people need to accept that sometimes, yes, she’s just going to be selling jam.
I’m a bit annoyed about the comment saying they don’t see the cultural relevancy of this endeavor. Its a business venture. Meanwhile, just recently Harry and Meghan were hosting an evening of African American art at the Kinsey Collection, giving out their 3rd digital civil rights award and the forum at SXSW, as well as spending time with Uvalde families. All that seems to be forgotten because Meghan is launching a brand and a show associated with it. We don’t even know what she’ll do with it yet apart from this teaser. If this was so culturally irrelevant, then why the uproar? This shows to me the lack of respect towards her that she is trying so hard to recover . Why do we gush when she shows up as the beautiful supportive wife at polo or Invictus, but constantly question her motives and ability when she wants to launch her new business? There was even griping about her promoting Clevr blends with that fun reel, and now they’re in Target. Anyway, I’ll watch the show and support it because I like nice stuff and beautiful positive things as well.
They’re not rich enough – yet – to be full-time philanthropists. They’ll need a very high income for life due to security threats beyond their control. When they were publicly funded they were full-time public-service. They don’t owe that now that they’re paying their own way. But sometimes expectations specific to one role get wrapped into someone’s brand and carry over into later roles in ways that don’t fit anymore.
I do not understand why she would choose to associate herself with the Kardashians. They have promoted tabloid culture and body dysmorphia. I know Meghan does not need to promote her brand that badly.
(And as I feel like I have to say this: I dislike the monarchy and very much like Harry and Meghan. But this is a big misstep to me. JMHO.)
She sent Kris a jar of jam. How exactly is she associating with them? By not snubbing them publicly like a scene in Bridgerton or Marie Antoinette?
*Long Sign*
A few of the posters here reminded me of the BernieBro in the 2016 & the extreme lefties: My way or the highway; no compromise. Live in their fantasy world & high tower, ignoring how the real world operates & exists.
For example, if Netflix is not good, so do the Warners/Discovery, Paramount/Disney, Hulu, AppleTV, AmazonTV, Sony Entertainment, and other big companies. Even 24A has to make money; do you think they only do business with the “pure”, “good” people?
Unfortunately the World is not perfect & structured to our 💯 % liking.
It’s better to focus on one’s own personal growth then nit-picking other’s life. (World & society issues aside.) It’s healthier.
Ah the Bernie Bros :-). Totally agree.
I honestly don’t love the idea of the Sussexes being close to the Kardashians. I get why Meghan chose to send Kris her jam, for better or for worse the Kardashians are influential and anything they shill, their followers will buy. I hope this is more strategic than her actually being buddy buddy with the Kardashians, I also don’t have to be a fan of everyone the Sussexes associate with (Ellen being a notable example).
The way concern trolling has been dropped into a post about a gift of jam is absolutely mind boggling.
I refuse to take someone’s criticism seriously who has worked themselves into hysteria over jam.
Get a grip, people.
Totally agree – it’s not like Meghan is BFFs with the K Klan. Get a grip is right.
Thank you! The way every single thing Meghan does or says or is accused of thinking is policed is exhausting.
There’s simply no justification for people being this angry about a gift of jam.
I’m not seeing “hysteria” or anger here in the comments at all. Some people, myself included, are side-eyeing Meghan a bit for wanting to associate herself and her products with the Kardashian clan or are otherwise not crazy about her choices in business ventures.
Anything less than complete and total support for everything Meghan or Harry does is not the same thing as hysteria or anger. I just wish she wouldn’t associate herself with the Kardashians to make a buck. Doesn’t make Meghan a bad person. It is merely my gossip opinion on a gossip website.
@Kerfluffles, co-signed
There’s a whole bunch of absolutely hysterical comments upthread.
I’ve said over and over again I don’t like the Kardshians, but this is a good business move, which is called nuance in opinion — and is the opposite of what you’re describing.
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@MaryContrary Are you not open to disagreeing or is it that only your perception is valid?
I mean, you’re over here saying you’re side eying someone for x, and some people disagree, and this is a problem for you.
BTW I agree with on AJ. Shrug.
So many thoughtful comments. I, too believe H and M had to flee sooner than planned, and had to leave BC because the right wing was causing political trouble for Justin Trudeau due to their presence. And they really didn’t have a fully realized plan or vision for life in the USA. They would have been so good with the Commonwealth countries. Ironic that the Wales’ appear to be half in and half out now, isn’t it?
Its a god damn shame that the right wing has gone after them, along with paid foreign bots, british conservative media, and uneducated, Brexit/MAGA Q cultists. It frankly enrages me-and the fact that every person, cause, or location that H and M get linked to is harassed with false, vulgar and violent online trolling (like the Walter Payton Foundation? ). I suspect that in certain circles in this country sympathy is building for H and M, because of the unrelenting attacks and the obvious targeting.
But the bottom line is that they need FU money. A lot of it –to surround themselves with the security and professional staff. I spent most of my life in non-profit-doing good and making a difference is one thing, having enough to lead the life you need to is another. I am single, and if not for the lucky accident of switching employment to the federal government for the last 10 years of my career and an unexpectedly successful late in life investment by my late father, I would be working until I was dead. I am deeply grateful for good health insurance, and a situation that allows me and my little dog a comfortable retirement in our modest condo. Sometimes it takes awhile for everything to fall into place in a way that you never planned; and in different directions. I suspect this is whats happening with H and M.
I find lifestyle products and a modest podcast on Lemonada (I am devoted to that platform as a big fan of their pandemic podcast In the Bubble and now the Julia Louis Dreyfuss podcast) are truly appropriate and natural for Meghan. I would kill for a few minutes with Kris Jenner to discuss monetizing a small property my sis and I inherited-although not a fan of the family. I think that association -someone with clear money making vision is something that Meghan needed, as she clearly knows the philanthropic side.
As for Netflix, the Obamas had several years and a large professional staff to plan and help vision the synergy between their books, podcasts and film projects. Harry needs that and to learn the business-if his show can be like that F1 show it could be good-I assume he will look for other projects but honestly think inspirational speaking and bringing people together, promoting international events (the NFL) are more appropriate for him. I think I have read here that Sussexs have a relationship with a high finance investor type-that seems promising.
I think if the unrelenting attacks would stop, Harry and Meghan will find their comfort zone and we should give them space and grace!
@chiclit
Exactly!!
This is the comment of the day.
@chiclit, I love this comment so much, I want to marry it! Brilliant post! 👏🏻👏🏻
Meghan is not your mule folks. She is not required to be perfect or live up to any random stranger’s idea of who she should be. Stop projecting your own dislikes and biases onto her. Y’all don’t actually know any of these people. She does. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
I seem to recall one of those awful british media sites is very in with the kardashians. The site used to churn out tons of kardashian-Jenner photoshopped content, it was so obvious how it was some kind of a contract, maybe like that of the royal family where everyone gets something?
I dislike the kardashians, and the Meghan haters should recognize that the royal family is the blueprint on how to sell themselves.
Harry and Meghan are philanthropists, but they need money to maintain the level of philanthropy they do, and to pay for the security they need, including their home, which must fulfill their security requirements.
So, I am no one to side eye what they do,
They have their reasons. As a fan, I understand how they are walking a path full of obstacles already, and I am not going to put any more there.
Big yuck from me on this. People need to stop promoting and/or cozying up to the Kardashians. They are disgusting.