I saw a TikTok describing Rose Hanbury and Queen Camilla as “the Side-Chick Avengers” and I haven’t been able to get that out of my head. Rose, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, has suddenly re-emerged after rumors of her affair with Prince William went massively mainstream several months ago. Keep in mind, while Rose is aristocratic and well-connected, for the past five-plus years, we’ve barely seen her. She’s turned up maybe once or twice a year at royal events or public events. Except for the whole “she might be banging an angry egg” thing, Rose has always been pretty good about minding her business and not seeking the spotlight. So it’s crazy that we saw her twice in one week – once on May 12 at the Badminton Horse Trials and once on May 15th at the service for the Order of the British Empire. Both of those appearances included Queen Camilla as well, and at the Badminton Horse Trials, there were even photos of Rose and Camilla greeting each other and laughing. Fascinating. Also fascinating? Richard Eden’s latest Daily Mail column, “How Rose Hanbury, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, is blossoming in the court of Queen Camilla.”
While the Princess of Wales is missing from public life as she undergoes treatment for cancer, one of her friends is taking an increasingly prominent role at court. The Marchioness of Cholmondeley, who lives next door to Prince William and Catherine’s Norfolk retreat, Anmer Hall, is said to have become close to Queen Camilla.
Last weekend, the marchioness, former model Rose Hanbury, 40, was pictured curtsying to the Queen at Badminton House in Gloucestershire, where they attended the horse trials.
Badminton is owned by the Duke of Beaufort, rock musician ‘Bunter’, who’s a close friend of Rose’s father, Tim Hanbury.
Just a few days later, one of Rose’s twin sons, Lord Oliver, held the royal robes at St Paul’s Cathedral, where he was page of honour to the King and Queen at a service of dedication for the Order of the British Empire.
Rose’s husband, David, the Marquess of Cholmondeley, who turns 64 next month, is a Lord-in-Waiting to the King.
While Catherine was absent, Rose gave a subtle nod to her style by wearing the same black, drop-brim hat by royal favourite Lock & Co that the princess has worn in the past.
Everyone knows. It’s not like a Mail columnist just decided to note that this Norfolk marchioness seems to be out in public these days. No one is saying it outright, but the fact that they’re saying anything is proof that there’s a much larger story. A story involving a missing princess, a side-chick queen, a rural rival mistress and an off-kilter heir. It’s interesting that Eden is even taking the first tentative steps towards saying something or drawing attention to Rose’s sudden closeness to Camilla.
Incidentally, for months now, I have not believed that Rose is being soft-launched as the new Princess of Wales. Like, I don’t think she wants that life and I suspect she and Huevo are not doing the forbidden dance at this point. But all of this is so incredibly curious and poorly managed.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Getty.
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- BADMINTON, GLOUCESTERSHIRE – MAY 12: Queen Camilla (R) speaks to Rose Cholmondeley (L) and Charlotte Tilbury (C) as she attends the final day of the Badminton Horse Trials 2024 at Badminton House on May 12, 2024 in Badminton, Gloucestershire.,Image: 872351163, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Chris Jackson / Avalon
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- BADMINTON, GLOUCESTERSHIRE – MAY 12: Queen Camilla (R) speaks to Rose Cholmondeley (L) and Charlotte Tilbury (C) as she attends the final day of the Badminton Horse Trials 2024 at Badminton House on May 12, 2024 in Badminton, Gloucestershire.,Image: 872351328, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Chris Jackson / Avalon
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- BADMINTON, GLOUCESTERSHIRE – MAY 12: Queen Camilla (R) and William Clements, Vice President of global sponsorships and sports marketing for Mars attend the final day of the Badminton Horse Trials 2024 at Badminton House on May 12, 2024 in Badminton, Gloucestershire.,Image: 872351742, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Chris Jackson / Avalon
Kaiser – I’m so curious about your thoughts! If you don’t think this soft launch is to introduce Huevo’s future second wife, what DO you think is going on? Why is she suddenly being more in the public/at royal family events and “blossoming in the court of Royal Side Pieces?”
What is going on?! And WHERE IS KATE??
+1! I want to know what Kaiser thinks this is really about if not a soft launch!
I reckon people don’t bring their spouses to soft launches of a new relationship.
I bet some idiot in Charles’ court thought: “Oh crap, we lack a gorgeous lady to draw attention away from how terrible William is at being POW. How about THIS beautiful lady who is also a member of the court?”
…Totally disregarding every single rumor, to the detriment of everyone.
I’d say it was too much of a dumb plotline, except I’ve seen how they all work and I really think it’s possible that they are this dumb.
BIG TROUBLE ahead! Rose and Gabriella and beatrice are the new feminine blood to glam up the boring slimmed down fam. Poor kate, she wanted everything for herself, she’s so close and yet so far from her crown: after it was announced that she and the king were the 2 evil racists and Kate had to show her face 2 days later for her xmas show. Harsh! And we never saw her again. Guess they couldnt have the top ceo princess and the next queen be a racist. So they fired her, or did she harm herself like rumors are saying and weirdly, both racists were cancer patients not too long after…
It might be just Camilla inviting her personally to these events to mess with William or Kate. She wouldn’t want to reject the queen’s invitation.
some tabloid said Camilla invited her to the Westminster event. So it could be Camilla playing her mean games again. If so, what an absolute piece of trash she is.
Is she signaling that Kate isn’t that sick? How would she justify doing this if Kate were so sick that she’s spending her last minutes with her kids, which is what Kate fans keep claiming is happening.
@WithTheAmerican, would Camilla care even if Kate was on her deathbed? One of the last times we saw Kate, she tried to steal attention from C&C on that flower event. W&K’s sources even suggested Charles should step down and give the crown to W&K. They act like a unit against H&M. Since H&M is gone, they are fighting with each other now.
I think Rose and Camilla just happened to be at the horse trials on the same day. I don’t think their meeting was prearranged. Attending the OBE service is the mannerly thing to do for a lord in waiting. The two events happening so close together is just coincidence.
I don’t see Rose involving herself in the BRF nonsense for a number of reasons, but perhaps the main one is not attracting any more attention to her husband’s relationship with convicted felon Francois Marie Banier.
They both just happened to be there? And a photographer just happened to get a shot of them mid smiles and was okayed to publish it? I just don’t see that. Bc if they didn’t want the photo seen, they could have exerted pressure. I’d even argue the photo was possibly arranged.
If Cam really is playing games here, isn’t she a bit playing with fire? She has no idea how long she’ll actually be queen. I suppose she’ll always have country society to retreat to, but William owes her nothing in terms of access when he’s king.
This is Camilla playing Kate if she doesnt like her and trying to get her to come out by pulling Rose out. Could be that or just that she hates william
I personally think it’s more of a Penny Knatchbull situation than a Camilla situation. They’re bringing her into the fold and soft launching her as a “companion”.
Bring on the carriage “hobby”!
LMAO. After watching Bridgerton Season 3 this is so funny.
She can be William’s “special friend.”
William has really messed up by not having a passion for anything. I can’t think of anything that could be as hilarious as Philip and Penny’s deep abiding connection over horse and carriage that could be used as a cover story for Will’s affairs.
But the parallel would be Kate getting a special companion.
@Shawna –
I don’t think there’s a parallel at all. The only thing Kate and Philip have in common was being married to the monarch (if Kate ever is). Philip had much more power than Kate: he was a man, Liz was truly in love with him, divorce was not an option, he came from a royal heritage himself, even if he had no money and had to renounce his title, he knew the world and knew how to live well in it.
But William can still be tried in the court of public opinion, and a companion might be more sensible for him – and more desirable for Rose who seems happy in her marital arrangement.
Simple distraction. Because of what might once have been (or not). They are trying to distract us from #WhereIsKate.
And really, where IS Kate, eh????
Maybe Rose will be given some “job” with Earth shot? LOL.
The side-chicks are running the asylum.
ROFL best comment of the week and it’s only Monday
😂😂😂
This comment is why I come here. 😉
Maybe she always got along with Camilla?
No taste-leader has ever fucked William!!! Just saying!!!
Honestly it might just be Camilla taunting William and Kate to keep them in line, also she might think that they have so much in common as sidechicks.
I doubt rose gave a nod to kates style.
I wish one of these rags would do some real work and research how long Rose has had that hat. I wonder if she had it first and Kate was copying her?
Personally, I think Rose can wear a hat much better than KKKate.
The outfit for the OBE service is very classic formal British day wear. Kate was cribbing off a very well established pattern when she was dressing like that. Diana could have worn an outfit like that in the eighties and probably did.
Kate didn’t really start wearing the full royal duchess drag for most engagements until she was trying to position herself as The Great White Hope when Meghan was in the picture. Before then a lot of people on my royal style blog would CONSTANTLY bitch about her hair down/too short hemlines/”needs a brooch”.
Rose is taunting Kate. Again.
And Kate can’t do anything about it because she’s supposed to be gravely ill. (I hope she isn’t, btw.)
Maybe Rose is taking inspiration from Cam with her side-piece-to-Queen journey. It certainly worked out for Cam and for her children. Cam even got to keep ties with the ex. You can’t make assumptions based on how “common” people think. Aristos and royals think entirely differently.
This is what I’ve been saying for the last couple of days. We don’t know Rose’s life and aspirations. From the outside Cam’s life with APB was ideal, and yet here we are.
This.
Former mistress becomes bestie with homewrecking legend.
( I miss Michael K.)
Oh, so do I!
I can actually see it. I’ve never understood why she’d bother having a discreet affair with the dullest lover in turnip tosh town, but she’d be a standout queen, aristocratic, charming, well connected, and probably still besties with her ex should they ever split.
Camilla can say rose is like a daughter to her. She probably is annoyed with kate
Of course not. Just as Kate was never giving a nod to
Meghan when she copied whole looks from her.
Not sure how this ended up here but it was meant for Tessa’s other comment about Rose’s hat not being a nod to Kate.
Tessa, I wrote above before seeing this I wonder if Camilla is signaling that Kate isn’t as sick as she is claiming, because how else could Camilla justify parading Rose around.
She seems like the kind of person who invites someone’s ex to dinner to make the new partner uncomfortable.
Isn’t Kate supposed to be producing some YouTube videos or something? One minute she going through a “harrowing” experience, the next she’s doing all the things. Either way, she can’t be seen in public. But yeah, I wouldn’t put it past QSC to try and play head games with Kate. Maybe she is trying to flush her out of hiding?
Her husband always looks like he’s going to bust a gut lolzing, & his smirk during the Chomondeley’s perp/church walk with QE2 at Sandringham was pure Cheshire cat. I don’t see William’s appeal, to put it mildly, so it’s distressing to think of anyone having an affair with him. SOMEthing is up, but I really just want to know where Kate is.
And the younger two children have not been seen since December. Just old pictures of them
The fact that Louis and Charlotte haven’t been seen since Christmas is alarming and unbelievable to me. I can’t believe we haven’t even heard that “Good Old Auntie Pippa took them to an amusement park,” or “Gramma Carole took them to Easter Service..” or something like that. You know, easy puff pieces that can’t be verified one way or another. We literally got thousands of these about W&H post-Diana (“the boys are doing well…Harry’s aunt gave him an Xbox…William is readjusting nicely…blah blah blah…”), but there is silence around these two children that I personally find disquieting. Whatever is going on here, I firmly believe that Kate, Louis, and Charlotte are together.
Not only is there a pronounced lack of Middleton fluff, Eden himself looked poised to be MaMidds mouthpiece recently but now did a total 180 degree turn to reporting on Cam and her relationship to Rose -Carole’s every attempt to gain some purchase in the BM is getting chopped off at the knees.
Oh dear. Does this mean no more dog food for Richard Eden?
@SueBarbri33 – if the kids are separated, that’s hella ominous. George being treated differently just got very, very real.
Some women are really attracted to power, especially in an aristocracy. Power is the entire point.
ITA about Rocksavage’s grinning. Also, we cannot underestimate the importance of his relationship with a known fraud conman, Jean-Marie Banier. Just another curious aspect of this whole story that is like a puzzle now where you have too many missing pieces. Agatha Christie would write a masterpiece of it. Schrödinger’s Princess would be a great title.
I do hope it’s NOT a murder mystery, but I’d def watch Knives Out, Royal Edition. Life is so much messier than books. Where is Kate, tho, seriously.
So Kate’s in a superposition and is both alive and dead until the door to her royal box is opened. 😭
I said this at the church event, but she looks really pretty in these photos too. (Someone finally got the fizziness under control with a proper blowout!) With skin that good, she look every second of 23 years younger than her husband.
Super curious to see what happens to her in the next decade or so. Right now, she has all the aristo perks and very little of the drama. I can’t see anyone willingly give that up. Especially for someone like William.
If you’re part of a society that actually approves of a monarchy and thinks that royalty is a cut above, then the heir to the throne is probably quite attractive — a catch, even. Without his royal status, Willy would be just another middle-aged creeper.
I kind of wonder what he’d be like if he actually were “Normal Bill.” He sounds like a nightmare but how much of that was the role he was born into and the way he was reared and how much is him being a terrible person all on his own.
Rose blooming in a dysfunctional court where the queen was the side piece that caused the wife great sorrow, a king who is self-absorbed as well as spoiled, has cut off a son and grandchildren and turned a blind eye to the cruel mistreatment of his DIL (the mother of his grandchildren).
Hmmmmmmmmm, that also speaks volumes of Rose.
Those who beautiful on the inside cannot bloom is this type of “garden” – thus why H&M and Diana did not bloom.
Totally agree. Given the history here and the condition of Willy’s current and legal wife? Wow. Some interesting choices have been made. Not enough “side-eye” emojis in the world. 😒😒
Eden: “I wonder what happens if I stir the pot clockwise? How about counter-clockwise?”
This is absolutely it! What on earth is he up to?
Either pot-stirring or pot-boiling—keeping the checks for columns flowing.
What’s Richard Eden playing at?
I’m wondering that too. This story so interesting given everyone’s history and Kate’s current state (whatever it actually is). This obviously has Camilla’s hoof prints all over it, so I wonder if any counter narratives will pop up from William’s side?
Wasn’t it Maureen who first leaked the story of the alleged affair?
Gotta say, I will forever giggle at the mention of Maureen.
yes, this is very interesting. What is the end game here? I don’t think Rose has any wish to be Princess of Wales, so I don’t think she’s angling for that (if there was still an affair going on, and I think it ended years ago.)
i don’t think Rose is suddenly appearing at these events either. I think she’s probably generally always attended these kinds of events (if not these specific ones) so to me, the interesting thing is that the press is suddenly focusing on her like this. I definitely think Camilla is trolling William by making sure to be photographed with Rose. And I think Eden is doing……something….with this article, but what? The rose rumors obviously were brought back up a few months ago (and it wasn’t just Colbert who noticed), so maybe that’s all this is – the press taking advantage of renewed interest in Rose to pull William’s chain a little.
The Rota is desperate for some glamour now that Kate is missing and Rose has it… this fact, combined with her history with William are the reasons why Eden is stirring the pot…(not that Kate has glamour but compared to the remaining royals…)
“I think she’s probably generally always attended these kinds of events”
@Becks1 – Agree 100% with you. This is just the Daily Fail writing about something that will generate click$.
I think this is a continuation of the warning shots from the media…step up and give us content or we will turn on you.
I’m thinking that it’s not so much about Rose, but about “The Court of Queen Camilla,” in that there is an actual court of Queen Camilla. Before it’s been the dutiful wife or the wicked step mother or the power behind the throne, but this is an up front embracing of Camilla as separate from Charles.
I couldn’t find many pics of her at these events..one for Ascot in 2021 and another with her husband at some outdoor possibly horse related event. Her son was carry the robes so it’s understandable she’d be in attendance for the service at St.Pauls.
Maureen Eden is definitely poking the bear. It was him and not Dan Wootton that first dropped the crumb for rural rivals…he is usually so far up the Middleton’s arse these last few years I’m surprised he wrote about Rose in Cams court. I didn’t read the article just the headline and of course that’s the click bait so unsure if there was anything interesting in the body itself.
@Amy Bee … Well, whatever his game is, he’s blocked comments at the DM on this article so no one can question his antics.
He’s desperate for clicks and engagement..blocking comments just ramps up curiosity. He’s a shit stirer
Maureen like the rest of the rota is probably bored to tears with the royals. All they have left to do is rerun the same old stories. So digging up rose bushes and finding new ways to crap on Nigeria and the Sussexes is how they entertain themselves. I wonder if Eden will get a letter from Rose’s lawyers too?
My guesses –
Rose always attended these events and was friendly with Camzilla. The pictures weren’t taken or published because of press concerns about violating a super injunction. That went away after the story came out broadly with the rumors around Kate’s disappearance.
Rose sightings haven’t been published because William and KP was giving them other stories in trade but now they don’t have stories about H&M to trade anymore.
Camilla owes her “friends” in the press some fresh gossip and this is what she came up with this week. Bonus that it tweaks William by resurrecting the affair rumors. Camilla has bought herself positive coverage for decades now. She has to keep those column inches filled.
Agreeed—these are the types of things she’s always been attending but until the story broke internationally and people started paying attention to her, no one noticed. Who’s paying attention to to who spectates at Badminton? I follow horse sports and could r tell you half the names of who competed let alone who was there watching. And given her husbands role at court, she’s always going to be at big official stuff, but since she’s not flashy, no one’s noticed or commented.
I do think the hat was a statement though.
@Pinkasaurus I forgot about the injunction and how that plays in. Rose most likely always attended these events but the tabs steered clear of her. Now they don’t seem to be afraid of Huevo’s wrath and are publishing her photos with glee. Could be that Huevo is now so compromised with the secrets regarding Kate that he can’t make any demands anymore. He can’t show his kids or his wife for some reason, so the tabs are retaliating with photos of Rose.
The photos of Rose at the horse trials and leaving St. Paul’s are not that suspect to me. However, the behind the scenes one where she is chatting up Cams? Totally arranged by Camilla and okayed by Rose. So I think it’s a combination of a bored and mischief making Camilla, Rose and the tabloids trolling a very powerless and compromised Huevo. I don’t think it means Rose is the next Queen.
I don’t think they’re still having those late night dinners in Norfolk but this is all very curious.
How are people not losing their sh*t that Kate just disappeared??? I’d worry if I hadn’t seen my neighbor in a few weeks, much less their future queen going MIA for almost half a year after a series of super shady lies from the palace.
It almost seems as if a “kill order” has been issued on publishing any #WhereIsKate content. Even the fact that so many are asking for proof of life is a story in itself. Ditto for the children. Nonetheless, crickets.
OMG where IS Kate? The BRF and the media are just chugging along like it’s totally normal! Is there any journalist who will break the news about Kate?
This is all so weird (and funny) to me. Rose lives pretty under the radar so it was a choice to be seen at two events with the royals this week. I mean knowing the church service was coming I’d likely skip the horse thingy. And the private pics with Camilla lol!!!! Rose has a great life and I don’t think she wants to be the new Camilla which is why I’m so confused. Is this all to troll Kate and the Middleton years after the royal rivals story and the attempt to oust rose from the turnip toff social scene??? Is Camilla using her to anger William??? Wtf????
“I’d likely skip the horse thingy”
Rose’s father, Tim Hanbury” is big buds with Bunter Somerset, 12th Duke of Beaufort and the owner of the Badminton Estate. The Badminton Horse Trials is a major “do” of the social season for Badminton Set. I am sure Rose has attended the Badminton Horse Trials almost every year in the past.
First of all, this reveal how awful this Rose is too (not that I had any hope, being in the RF circle) because this optic of using her to ‘vamp up’ the RF because Kkhate disappeared – the same woman who is accused of having cheated with Willnot- is in really poor taste ..which is classic Cowmilla.
The media, as the RF, are clearly desperate to bring some glam and new faces after the successful Nigeria tour of H & M huh 😂.
Especially when pictured together, Camilla appears to have better posture than Rose!!!
THANK YOU!! I was shocked that a former model has such poor posture and such a cheap looking jacket. All three women look bad in that picture. They would never cut it amongst the snooty southern social set!
So the original side chick is using Peggy’s side chick to what? With this family it’s either a shot across the bow for Peggy or a deflection from another story. Sometimes I think about Rose and how this must have be her biggest regret in life, imagine being dragged for sleeping with Peggy long after it ends 🥴.
I think Camilla is trying to push Kate into coming out of hiding by parading Rose around in public. It’s one palace against each other now. KP needs to get it’s ducks in a row and take Charles more transparent lead. This ” she has cancer and needs privacy” act is getting old even for the RF. The tabloids need to be fed and Camilla has been told to provide the goods.
It could be as simple as Camilla serving up Rose to the papers for some clicks bc Kate is not around. Is she trying to goad Kate into coming back? Idk. But either way, Camilla being seen with Rose would have to bother Kate. So what we’re watching is Camilla essentially taunting a cancer patient. Whether one believes she has cancer or not, that’s the optics. Camilla is rubbing a sick woman’s face into the pictures of her husband’s side piece. It’s cold AF. Is Camilla doing this bc she knows Kate isn’t that sick anymore? What does Camilla know about Kate’s condition? Otherwise, Camilla truly is just trolling a seriously sick person for shits and giggles. Which, considering how she treated Diana, is a possibility.
That’s how I see this too, like how does Camilla not get attacked for this in the press.
If she wasn’t the one pulling the press strings from behind the curtain she’d be getting dragged in the papers for doing this to a “cancer” patient (the papers keep saying she has cancer, but Kate did not say that so I’m left not knowing wtf).
Right? Meghan gets picked apart for sharing jam while Kate is sick. Whereas Camilla gets photographed twice in one week with the woman who is rumored to be William’s former mistress. Like come on.
Yes, agreed. Camilla cares more about the Firm’s need for media attention than Kate’s recovery. Kate is being thrown under the bus. So sad.
This. Rose has always been around, but without the Buttony One, there’s a need for clicks.
100% This!
That makes total sense, and to be fair, that technique works perfectly for TOB. All that BP has to do is HINT that Harry might come to town or take on part-time royal duties and William frantically schedules events for that week. I don’t know if Kate could be bothered, though.
Okay, you know what? I was thinking about it a little more and so now I’m going to throw some spaghetti at the wall. Sources have said that Camilla and Charles visited Kate in the hospital and that Kate met with him before filming her health announcement. But what if that’s just bullshit and Charles and Camilla haven’t actually seen Kate either. Then Camilla really would be trying to smoke things out by being seen with Rose. Maybe C&C really don’t know much either. We keep hearing briefs that the circle of people who actually know what’s going on around Kate is very very small. It’s hard to imagine and I’m not sure I could see that happening. But it would be funny if they really have no more idea than we do.
It would be jaw-dropping if the King really hasn’t been able to figure out where the Future Queen Consort is after all this time. If so, this speaks volumes about Charles’s fear of William.
That would be amazing!
I’ve also wondered a bit abt this!! Hadn’t at all made the connection to this article- great thinking, Jais!
Can someone tell me if she’s always been this prominent and close to the royals and the media has just not talked about it or if this is a recent thing? What the actual hell is going on? Everyone has been talking about how she was William’s mistress since 2019. Why are they placing her so close to the throne in Camilla now? Shouldn’t they try to distance themselves from her or are they trying reverse psychology? “There’s nothing to see here folks”. If so, it really is having the opposite effect.
Her H is Charles Lord in Waiting and her son was a page boy at the coronation. They have always been close to the Monarch and usually attend State Dinners. What’s different is that the press is covering her now. I suspect they will attend the next State Diner coming up in June.
There are photos of Harry escorting Rose to a state dinner in 2017. Her husband had a prominent role in QE2’s court and name escapes me but Google will have the answers. It’s a role her son will likely get in the future.
The Cholmondeley’s are the Great Lord Chamberlains. David (rose’s husband) is the one who carried the crown at the opening of parliament. In terms of court rank and hierarchy, its a pretty significant role. The way it works is that there are three families that are the GLCs and it rotates for each monarch, but the Cholmondeleys hold “more” of the GLC title. So the Marquess of Cholmondeley was the GLC under QEII, someone else is the GLC under Charles, the Marquess of Cholmondeley (whether David or his son) will be the GLC under William, and then the third family will be GLC under George, then back to the Cholmondeleys for George’s heir (assuming the monarchy lasts that long of course.)
As part of this role the marquess attended state dinners, so that’s why Rose was also in attendance.
Rose’s grandmother was a bridesmaid at the wedding of Elizabeth and Phillip. Even before her marriage she was very well connected.
Rose has always been close to the royals. Her aunt was the goddaughter of the late Queen and also dated Charles. Rose’s sister Marina dated Lord Frederick Windsor for some time. Rose and her family are also close to Camilla’s children (Tom Parker Bowles follows them on IG) she’s always been close with them.
You have to wonder what was Kate thinking, telling William to “phase Rose out”, lol (Assuming that was true) Rose was more on the inside than Kate could ever hope to be, FQ or no FQ. If Rose is good friends with Camilla then its a good chance she is a petty grudge holder too, so no doubt she will be holding that against Kate for the next millennium.
I believe this is Camilla doing a power play while killing two birds with one stone:
The King and Camilla need young and glamorous aristos to freshen up their stale and dying royal court.
The King and Camilla also have a big issue with William, and Camilla never misses an opportunity to put William in his place.
It’s win-win for the horse queen.
I agree. This is Camilla getting under William’s skin. She is a viper through and through.
I agree – this is a deliberate move on Camilla’s part to get under William’s skin.
I also think she always had a problem with how the cheating rumors were shut down and lawsuits were threatened, etc. She’s been vilified for decades as the “other woman” and Charles was likewise vilified for cheating on Diana (there was more going on, but at a basic level that’s still something that a lot of people hold against him – cheating on Diana.) I can see camilla being ticked, even in 2024, if William has been having extended affairs and regularly cheats on Kate and the press is quiet about it and William’s status as a family man is protected. I can definitely see her resenting that and trying to hurt that image/status. ‘look who William cheated on kate with!!!!!”
Good point. I can see Camilla trying to expose William’s cheating, particularly because KP uses his saintly dutiful husband/father reputation to compare against those adulterers C&C and show William is going to be such a better king than Charles. I’m sure that really gets her goat.
Camilla dragging everyone down to her level. Or exposing them to have already been there in the first place.
I am sure she does not like how William has been able to hide his cheating. He really should not be protected for that for some false image. Is she trolling Kate as well? Probably. I would hope it means things aren’t as serious as they claim.
Yeah, I think Rose is just being used to fill column inches. They need something to write about since Sussex stuff is getting old and tired.
I agree. They are throwing every story they can find to destract from the missing Kate. Also the Windsors have a long history of destroying women including their own and Camilla is pure evil. Even if she thinks she’s in control, Rose won’t come out unscathed.
This really makes me think he might be back with Rose. It was in fact a choice for Rose to be pictured at both twice in one week. I agree with Tina above. She could have skipped the Badminton Horse Trials or avoided being pictured with Cam knowing the other service was coming up. Why are the press harping on this now? If you watch QE funeral (at least the clip I saw) the commentator got quiet when Rose walked in. It’s all very suspect they suddenly are talking about her and she is everywhere. Even pointing out the same hat Kate wore.
I just don’t understand why Kate hasn’t been seen. They could have easily brought Kate out for a zoom call when this first happened & at any point since but they haven’t because they can’t. There is absolutely no way Kate would be silent & not do something crazy for attention after Meghan was named Princess in Nigeria and Rose being brought to the forefront. Just no way. Something is seriously wrong.
I believe the palace are purposely leaking out lies to the public on social media about what happened to Kate as well.
It’s strange that Cam & Rose are suddenly besties. But do you know who doesn’t give a damn? Rose’s husband. He’s having the time of his life. He has an heir to his fortune, a wife to run his estate, and the freedom to be with his male friends. His children will almost assuredly have prominent positions in Peg’s court. David’s probably glad Rose allegedly slept with Peg.
And his estate is getting mad attention now. As it should! Those gardens…
Wow. Just. Wow. This sudden featuring of Rose in close proximity to Camilla really is a CHOICE.
I’ve commented here before that I have a friend I trust connected to the Norfolk circle who confirmed the affair with William – inexplicable to most of us as that might be. But, even if I didn’t have that, it would be clear something was afoot. As Kaiser says, this featuring of Rose is making a point. There are literally dozens of young, attractive aristocrats floating around connected in multiple ways to the RF and SHE is the only one that gets the stories?
The press absolutely know – and they’ve known for years. There are far too many confirmations in different places. The whole Rural Rivals story was obvious enough, digs in the Mirror around Rose sitting next to Harry at a banquet back in 2017, the (deleted) tweet by Giles Coren, close friend of Tom Parker-Bowles, Confirmation from Rose’s own drunk brother about cosy dinners whilst Kate was ‘away’, Tom Bower confirming his aristocratic connections knew it (he quoted a daughter of an Earl), the Scottish journalist coming out openly on Twitter saying Rose had had the affair with William and the English press couldn’t report it because of a super injunction – that didn’t apply in Scotland so he was out and tweeting away, Stephen Colbert coming out and talking about it openly (he apologised for the speculation about Kate’s disappearance after the Cancer video – but he did not retract the Rose rumours).
The affair happened. and everyone in the media and in the aristocracy and connected to the RF knows about it. As, of course, does Kate. So, working on that basis – what the holy hell is being said with these stories??
Is this the Wife 2.0 rollout?
Is this the Maitresse en Titre rollout?
Is this just Camilla having (cruel) fun to punish Huevo for not stepping up to help his father in his hour of need?
My guess? This is Camilla trolling Kate and William but I don’t think even Camilla would rub the face of a severely ill Kate in this – so I’d assume that she knows the whole preventative chemo/has cancer excuse is just that – an excuse to get out of what little work they do.
OR, William has indeed decided to bench Kate and use her illness as a retirement and Camilla is signalling her approval. She seemed friendly enough with William at the Commonwealth service…
I wouldn’t put it past Camilla to torment a dying woman.
I think the court was ordered to cut Rose cold because of the affair, but now that Kate is out of the picture Camilla sees an opportunity to divide and conquer. Because that’s what poisonous old hags like her like to do.
I’ll bet Rose thinks Camilla is a lovely woman for doing this, when really its an act of spite and vengeance for Kate’s coronation and garden show antics.
Rose was never cut out cold after the affair. She and her husband attended church in January 2020 with the Windsors for Kate’s bday (I think QEII was there.)
Yes, the Jan 2020 church walk with Rose and husband just behind Kate and QEII present was very much taken as a signal that either Kate had got back in her box over the affair (a la QEII herself and Philip’s close friend Penny) or that the affair was over and bygones were bygones. And, even at the time rumours swirled in 2019, the Tatler story very much reported Kate as the one on the wrong side of the aristocratic door – not Rose. She was seen as gauche and (horror!) middle class for even trying to ice out her rival.
What’s really interesting is that there has then been basically nothing in the media about Rose since 2020 – and then suddenly there’s the whole weirdness around Kate and – SURPRISE! – we get multiple stories and pictures of Rose. I don’t think that’s an accident….
She wasn’t cut out. Her husband has an ancestral royal/parliamentary function in the UK. Rose has attended court events throughout. Kate personally tried to cut her off in Norfolk. Nothing to do with the court. IMO there was never an affair, just something Rose may know about William that Kate found out. And good luck with trying to oust Rose from their set, Kate! Tatler made sure Kate remembered her position.
Rose was never cut out. She and her husband are too influential with the aristos for the Windsors to ever try to do that. Kate was the one who tried to cut her out and failed. Kate realized then I think how ineffectual her power really was. She couldn’t use the tabloids to attack her enemy and her husband didn’t care so she was toothless.
Maybe it was this stress that triggered/exacerbated Kate’s cancer in the first place. Ugh.
Kate looked to me like she had been up all night crying under that weird blue hat during that birthday “walk of shame” with Rose. She usually knows better than to mask her eyes from the cameras like that. The whole thing reeked of damage control, especially since they haven’t been seen hanging out otherwise.
My tinfoil tiara theory is that Kate assured them she would be willing to put up with “anything” to marry into the firm, and Willy has been really putting that to the test.
I still feel there was no affair. No real reason just my gut feeling. To me they are trolling William. RR: you’re not giving us any info about Cate or we know what’s going on with Cate but we’re forced for now to hold back and we’re pissed so we have to talk s**t about someone might as well be you 🙂 We’re still trashing the Sussex’s of course but the tide seems to be turning, more ppl calling us out. I say the tide may be turning because some of these fools are actually saying they need to come back, they have the glamour or the firm needs them etc.
She’s giving major Darkside Diana vibes…is there a new Duchess of Better-looking Buttons?… Diana always knew when a camera was watching her and she manipulated her expressions and even who she chose to be seen with to communicate through the press and to the world. I’m seeing the same with Rose. She’s very aware of the cameras and absolutely is posing accordingly; from her hats, the jacket with gold buttons, and even the schedule turned backside so you see The British Empire in her cold bony fingers. This girl is clever. Poor Kate only had her mom to think of shady games, on her behalf, but I don’t think she was ever really as cunning and sharp as Carol. Rose is a perfect moniker for this lady because she’s thorny.
Duchess of Better-looking Buttons? 😂
She is there with her husband. This isn’t a soft launch. I think they are just trying to show that there is no tension between the two families.
Totally agree.
Don’t think this is a soft launch. Rose isn’t going to be the new PoW. Why would she? She has a great life without the Windsor mess. She’s always going to be on the periphery because of Rocksavage’s role in the monarchy. His son will one day be George’s Lord Chancellor or whatever his father’s role was with QE2. This is Camilla f’ing with William. She knows what is going on with Kate. She knows what William isn’t telling folks. She knows William is a lazy twit and since he has nothing to offer the tabs in rebuttal to the stories, Camilla has free reign to use Rose to aggravate William.
Eden is an odd chap. This sounds rather goading of Kate to me. He’s done it before, of course.
“Odd chap” is being kind. If I said here what I think of him I’d be banned. He’s a pot-stirring incompetent sycophant who lives inside Chuck’s butt.
I mean…she could just be living her life and these events happened to be on her calendar in a short period of time. Not everything is deep.
I agree. she and her husband always have these events and go to them. The Rota are trying to make a big deal out of nothing.
Yes. I don’t see this as staged to rock any boat. She and her husband have long been a fixture in this set/at court. This is her rightful place. Eden is always trying to twist the knife on this story; either he knows something really happened, or he doesn’t and just enjoys unbalancing Kate in some way.
This is the media looking for a Kate replacement, not Huevo. They’re missing out on clicks!
This. The whole royal life is shallow and superficial, and all the tabloids (and royal stans) want is a thin, attractive woman to show off fashions and jewels. I suspect Rose has been present at many events over the years, but Kate insisted that SHE be the one who is photographed and publicized. With Kate out of the picture, the tabloids need a woman to replace her. I think that’s all this is.
“The court of queen Camilla” …funniest line this morning. Ugh.
It’s weird anyone thinks this COULD be a soft launch, not exactly a good look to launch her with her husband in tow at these events…
I could buy that this is a nothingburger, but why this hat?
Even if Rose owned it before Kate, why would she wear it now? I’m sure she has a closet full of hats.
This was a CHOICE. I just don’t know what it was signaling.
“This was a CHOICE”
Exactly! The coronation shoes too! Rose knows full well what she’s doing the question is why…
There have been a few leaks from the medical community lately about what’s actually wrong with Kate and it has to do with some sort of complicated bowel resectioning requiring the creation of a stoma and external ostomy bag. Having been through a similar process with a bowel resectioning and urostomy, after 8 weeks I’m almost back to normal (a new normal for sure) and able to get out and about, so it may be that Kate’s suffering some serious post-surgery depression along with a non-existent marriage…a LOT going on behind the scenes vis-a-vis settlement negotiations, living arrangements, etc. But I don’t think this is Rose horning in on Kate’s territory, she’s been attending these types of events all along but getting little to no attention. Now that her husband is Charles’ Lord in Waiting, which is a very prestigious position, it’s natural that she would be getting more press coverage. As well, the tabloids are flogging the dead horse of an alleged affair with William to get clicks because they’re getting crickets from the BRF regarding Kate’s situation.
Hi Jaded. Nice to hear about your recovery. Yes, I agree with you, I think she’s going through a hell of an ordeal that located some cancer along the way. (They seem to have been blindsided by this development, which surely would have been flagged up as a possibility.) I recall a family member going through a massive surgery and recovery and his mood falling right through the floor, almost as if getting of the hurdle of surgery was easier than learning how to recover and regroup. It was a mental and physical slog. He had a very supportive wife, thankfully. Best wishes, Sparrow.
Thank you Sparrow — having a supportive partner is half the battle, mine is a total angel! Hugs!
I’m glad you are healing well. There’s a lot more to recovery of a major trauma than bones knitting or incisions healing. The mind is a powerful foe or ally in convalescence.
I’ve read all the comments, and I think yours is probably the most spot on.
@Equality This is true. Among the aristocratic and royal families there is a long history of marriage being primarily for dynastic purposes. The Marquess of Cholmondeley is one of those nobles who hold the hereditary office of Lord Great Chamberlain. The office is shared between three noble families (or it might just be two) who decide between themselves, and presumably with the reigning monarch, how long each will hold the office. The accession of a new monarch is an obvious point for a change and that role has now passed to Rupert Carrington, the 7th Baron Carrington.
In these families having a direct heir is important and is seen as a major purpose of marriage. The general view is that once there is an heir and ideally also a spare, the primary purpose of the marriage is fulfilled and discreet extramarital affairs are acceptable. The all-important word being ‘discreet’.
Rose Hanbury was four months pregnant with male twins when she married David Cholmondeley who is 23 years her senior. He is reputedly bisexual and spends much time in France with a male friend. He pursues a career as a filmaker and actor, and uses David Rocksavage as his professional name , (from his subsidiary title of Viscount Rocksavage) .
The wedding was a hastily arranged civil ceremony and the twin boys were born 5 months later. It appears that the primary purpose of this union is to provide the Marquess of Cholmondeley with an heir and spare. (Conception may have been by artificial insemination with pre-selected male embryos. ) So Cholmondeley has done his duty and secured the lineage and Rose has secured a position in aristocratic society as chatelaine of a stately home. The unspoken rules of this society include a high level of discretion and of maintaining a public face of probity. The Middletons did not understand these rules. The public scandal played out in the low level press was brought to an end by the Queen who invited/ordered William and Kate, the Cholmondeleys and the Middleton parents plus Pippa and her husband , to Sandringham where they all publicly attended the local church. Queen Victoria couldn’t have handled it better.
Artificial insemination (“AIU”) does not include embryos or even IVF. Implanting fertilized eggs would be IVF. Neither of those would including choosing and implanting embryos.
Yes, it is IVF . Screening of embryos is mostly used for detecting genetic illnesses but it can also determine sex.
Younger women have the highest chance of successful pregnancies .
Thanks for that @anotherlily. It explains a lot.
Those aristo women and their “hat talk” LOL. Let’s not forget the princesses of York extravagant and ugly hats during W&K wedding. They were the second most talk about people after the bride and groom around the world. We know them and Kate were never BFF. Rose 🌹 is definitely sending a message with that hat and is not acting alone. The Rottweiler is relishing every second of it.
@Ben, honestly between Pippa’s nonexistent bum and the York princesses hats, WandK were the 3rd most talked about people at their own wedding.
You’re so right about Pippa’s bum. It was so nothing and yet became this huge sexy talking point. I couldn’t believe it. Fancy being overshadowed, figuratively!, at your wedding by your sister’s non existent arse.
Yes! Those hats were 🧑🏻🍳💋👌!!!
OMG where IS Kate? The BRF and the media are just chugging along like it’s totally normal! Is there any journalist who will break the news about Kate? PS-Kaiser the “side-chick Avengers” is totally spot on.
One thing for sure: Rose, rather than the widow, is the shiny object being discussed.
I don’t think Kate is Camilla’s main target. Just wanted to get that out there.
I also don’t think Rose and William are involved with each other right now.
So 1. H&M are gone and they’re no longer helpless against the rest of the RF. The BRF doesn’t know what they are up to, and they can no longer sell them to the tabloids.
2. The BRF does that so that the BM reports on H&M, not whatever the rest are up to. The royals are threadbare, the BM needs to earn money on them, they need to feed the media beast.
3. Traditionally, younger than senior citizen aged women are a great selling point.
4. Camzilla is not a sweet little granny. Pictures with Rose are a choice. Camzilla protects herself, her blood telations, and CRex.
5. She’s been forced *Victorian fainting couch sigh* to work harder than WillNot. I think they dislike each other, she resents Egg taking off, and this is a way to get to him.
If she really wanted to go after Kate, I think she’d go harder. At the beginning of the year, C&C were gentler with K than W was. This is nasty to K, but I think her main focus is W.
I agree that Rose probably attends these events regularly. She doesn’t seem like someone flashy or attracting a lot of attention to herself. We don’t know what happened, if anything, but it seems that she should be seen as more of a victim in all this. She should get more exposure based on the great work she has done with the Houghton Hall – she seems like a serious and hard-working person (just based on what has appeared in the media).
I think Rose’s appearances, especially on the arm of her husband, who is smiling, are PR and damage control for the coverage she has been getting. I don’t think of it as a soft launch. I’m surprised no one ever thought that it was Rose and not her husband Will was seeing.
I don’t think William has been affair’ing with either of them; neither Rose nor her husband need that man. I suspect Rose is lonely in her marriage, and alone in the house when her husband is in France, but you’d have to feel pretty desperate to think William is the answer. Like you say, Rose and her husband are showing how united they are. Good grief, the rumours must be horrible for her, and him; she is the mother of his children and wife, if only in name, perhaps. And for all the rumours to come back now. Doubly nasty. The thing is, I hold by my instinct they didn’t have an affair, but this story never goes away. Hmm.
Camilla queendom is a bust. I see this as her trying to generate interest. Camilla waited all these years and still doesn’t get invited to anything.
Schrödinger’s Kate: Alive (and busy photoshopping pictures) and dead (or at least in a coma) all at the same time.
OK. I believe she’s ill and has had cancer, like she said. But this still made me laugh!! Thanks, Boba.
Apparently Kate is at MD Anderson and is far sicker than they are letting on.
????!
Says who?!
Where is that coming from?
Leaks to some sort of reputable insta pages. Similar pages that helped spread the news of her stoma bag lid surgery before it was widespread.
No one knows if the stoma theory is true either.
That’s in Houston. There is no way they could get her to the states without someone saying something. If anything she would go to Switzerland for treatment.
Oh for sure.
I wonder how Rose likes her Egg? …Over easy or over hard? 🙂
Hmmm. The Daily Fail sending a warning shot to the Walses: give us stories/get back in the public eye, or we’ll go rogue. With Chuck&Cam’s blessings.
The DM is posting interesting stories about colon cancer and the rise in young people…