Queen Elizabeth thought Donald Trump was ‘very rude’ & his marriage was a sham?

Queen Elizabeth II had the sad duty of entertaining Donald Trump and his wife twice during the Trump “presidency.” Trump has always believed that he had some kind of special connection to the Windsors, and he used his “love” of QEII to bash the Duke and Duchess of Sussex, claiming that Harry and Meghan disrespected the queen. Meanwhile, Trump always had a thing for Princess Diana (I’m sure she told him to take a hike) and he’s talked sh-t about Camilla, the current queen consort. But I digress. There’s another new royal book and there are stories about how much QEII hated spending time with the Trumps.

The late Queen found Donald Trump “very rude”, according to a biography of the former monarch. Elizabeth II is said to have “particularly disliked” the way the former US president, whom she hosted twice during her reign, looked over her shoulder as if he was “in search of others more interesting”.

The claims are made in the book Voyage Around the Queen by Craig Brown, which is being serialised in the Daily Mail.

One extract reads: “Over the course of her reign, Her Majesty entertained many controversial foreign leaders, including Bashar al-Assad, Robert Mugabe, Idi Amin, Donald Trump, Emperor Hirohito and Vladimir Putin. She may not have found their company convivial; upon their departure, she may even have voiced a discreet word of disapproval.”

“A few weeks after President Trump’s visit, for instance, she confided in one lunch guest that she found him ‘very rude’: she particularly disliked the way he couldn’t stop looking over her shoulder, as though in search of others more interesting. She also believed President Trump ‘must have some sort of arrangement’ with his wife Melania, or else why would she have remained married to him? For his part, Donald Trump was confident he had been her favourite guest ever.”

[From The Telegraph]

I was looking through the photos we have of Trump’s visits to the UK, and what’s notable now (and it was notable at the time too) was how often QEII pawned the Trumps off on Charles and Camilla. Charles and Camilla were the ones who had to host private dinners for the Trumps at Clarence House and do that kind of entertaining. Anyway, I absolutely believe that QEII thought Trump was a lout and a dumbass, but I don’t buy that she had any particular view of the Trump marriage, and that she would share that view with some lunch guest.

Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.

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  1. Pinkosaurus says:

    I don’t know if QEII had any opinion of the Trump marriage but I could see her having a recap chat with someone like Angela Kelly that was overheard, and nodding along to someone else’s speculation. I wonder if and how Trump’s tenders and babysitters are going to keep this tidbit from him to protect his delicate ego?

    • AlpineWitch says:

      There’s a very strong undercurrent in the UK that if you marry someone from poorer countries or a Slavic country, it’s a sham marriage and you ‘bought’ the spouse, specifically if the man is British and the lady is a foreigner. I kid you not.
      This harks back to a series of bills that were enacted since 1981 to make it possible one couldn’t obtain citizenship through marriage.
      Some idiots believed my husband found me on an online catalogue and I’m a white woman who was born in Italy.

      I have no issues believing QEII saw Melania Trump as a ‘bought’ spouse.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        It always comes down to racism and classism with the Rota, doesn’t it… it’s their forever M.O.

  2. Brassy Rebel says:

    She usually hid her distaste well. Trump was challenging, even for her. 🤢

    • Mil says:

      It showed, she was not too happy about waiting for him. And the Obamas’ had quite a welcome, so… I am not defending the royals, but let’s see: he tried to him on Lady Di, hates anything green, hates women, and QE was one, talks like a toddler, and likes divorces. Then he brought first lady who was utterly out of place.

    • Mayp says:

      Ol’ Lizzie may have been able to hide most of her feelings in the moment but she was known to make snide comments about people behind their backs. Case in point: her comments about Meghan wearing white and a veil at her wedding (which were of course reported because she probably made the comments to Angela Kelly).

      • BQM says:

        I really doubt she had anything to say about Meghan wearing white given that Anne did. Unless she thought Anne was wrong too. A veil? Maybe. She was of a certain generation. But I can also see AK making up or embellishing things.

  3. equality says:

    I like this for DT. All these other horrible people glossed over to settle on him being disliked.

  4. Clove says:

    This story made me laugh, especially seeing him in that tux again. If she didn’t say that his marriage was a sham, I do. Many of us here in the US think that it is. Like who constantly renegotiates their prenup? Melania

    • Pinkosaurus says:

      OMG the cut of Trump’s suit is so buffoonish. The tailor should be deeply ashamed.

      • Miranda says:

        I lean more towards pity for the tailor. The poor guy isn’t a miracle worker. When it comes to fitting Trump, “f–k it, I tried” is probably the best anyone could hope for.

      • beff says:

        In every single pic with low t and his horrible sons, it looks like they’re taking “first day of standing” classes. It’s so weird.

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        My money’s on the tailor hated Trump, probably knew they’d be stiffed for the bill, and put him in something that made him look a complete twat w/o him even realizing it.

        Glorious sartorial revenge really.

  5. Neeve says:

    Look at the way Trump is talking to her like she cant hear.

  6. Fuzzy Crocodile says:

    To be fair… I feel like a lot of people who meet him think this.

  7. Miranda says:

    To make it sting even more for Trump, I’m pretty sure I remember reading that, of all the POTUS they met over her 70 year reign, both QEII and Philip particularly enjoyed hosting the Obamas (in spite of Michelle’s allegedly grievous faux pas of daring to touch the Queen 🙄).

  8. Dee says:

    Look at how his lifts have him leaning forward. So vain.

    • Where'sMyTiara says:

      One of my dear friends, refers to him as “a warthog on tippytoe” when he wears his lifts.

      My friend is also the one who managed to piss off the Rota by figuring out and then tweeting about the Queen’s ability to employ her jewelry/clothing as a sort of “brooch warfare” (you can see it clearly in Trump’s visits too – she wears a brooch gifted by Trump’s nemeses, the Obamas, and dusted off that Burmese Ruby tiara with the 96 rubies, meant to “protect the wearer from illness and evil”). Other instances were when she wore that hat that looked like the EU flag on the eve of Brexit to the State Opening of Parliament in 2017. She’s worn brooches that have particular meaning for ages – reviewing troops, she’d wear something connected to the regiment reviewed or to the branch of the armed forces they belonged to.

      • Berkeleyfarm says:

        To be fair, she would have worn the brooch from Obama anyway. It was a gift from a US President and she would always display that gift proudly when any important American came to call. It’s not her fault that someone had a childish attitude about his predecessor.

        Now the snowflake brooch she wore during that visit may have been a needle, lol.

  9. Hannah says:

    I’d love to believe this. The late Queen met many a dictator in her long life. But we have always known her to keep her personal political views to herself. However, Kaiser is absolutely right in that Liz did pass on a lot of official engagements onto to Chuck & Cam. So I lowkey believe this was her attempt at blowing him off, while not being overtly rude. I do believe the other commenter who said it’s highly likely she shared her private views with AK47, but not this dude

  10. LightPurple says:

    She posed him next to a dog bowl.

    She also made damn sure that his spawn didn’t manage to get any pictures with her when they all went over. Anne and Sophie were clearly assigned to handle Jared and Ivanka during that state dinner. Harry got Ivanka duty the next day at Westminster and Andrew got her when she went to the Prime Minister’s residence.

    • Couch Potato says:

      I was looking for the dog bowl. It made me laugh back then, and did it again now:-)

      The courtiers can handle things IF they want to.

    • bisynaptic says:

      She would have thought him the lowest form of arriviste. The dog bowl is fitting—except she was very fond of her dogs.

  11. sunnyside up says:

    There is nothing about Trump that the late Queen could like.

  12. Amy Bee says:

    We all know that the Royal Family doesn’t like Americans so I believe she had disdain for him. I don’t believe she told anybody how she felt about him though. This is a woman who never hugged her grandson is she really going to tell a lunch guest her private feelings about Trump or the status of his marriage? She and Philip had an arrangement as well.

    • equality says:

      QE supposedly did like Americans. She got along well with Reagan and the Obamas. With the others is it that they dislike Americans or just think themselves superior?

  13. Inge says:

    He was so utterly rude when walking in front of the queen and she first went to one side then the other.

    and he claims he was her favourite guest….

  14. Bumblebee says:

    Why would an arranged marriage bother her? That’s every royal marriage except Harry’s. And I doubt she said anything about Trump. Keep calm and carry on and all that.

    • Isabella says:

      I think we dehumanize her when we assume she has no opinions or never talks to anybody. We all like a good gossip.

  15. Digital Unicorn says:

    That photo with the dog bowl gets me every time – they didn’t even bother to move it for the photos.

    The cuts of his suits are always so off – the look like fat suits that are trying to hide something (adult diapers maybe).

  16. beff says:

    What’s up with the one enormous glass of wine in the pic with Melanie in red with Camilla? Lol.

    • Becks1 says:

      Camilla’s face says a thousand words in that picture, lol.

    • Where'sMyTiara says:

      By the look on her face, that was Gladys’ third glass of wine… apparently she needs to drink the full box before facing off with Americans… or the French… or British veterans…

  17. Jay says:

    I mean, yeah – it was pretty clear even at the time that she didn’t find him charming. He’s loud, rude, stupid, and incurious. I’ll bet conversing with him was awful. But I highly doubt that she cared or had opinions on his marriage being a “sham” – in her circles, it would not be unheard of for two people to get married more for money or prestige than for love and keep their private lives separate.

    • Becks1 says:

      So something I remember hearing several times well before he ran for president was that Melania was very much a society hostess – like she was very gracious, very good at making guests feel comfortable, very good at small talk, etc. That didn’t seem to carry over into being a FL of course but I wonder if she was that way around QEII and if she was gracious and polite and well mannered, the queen was probably like “wtf is she doing with this doofus.” But I doubt the thoughts went deeper than that.

  18. Laura D says:

    Do I believe that QEII was less than enamoured with DT? Yes, I do. However, I find it hard to believe she would let her feelings about him be splashed across the front pages. She was far too diplomatic to be anything other than discrete. Whoever “leaked” is once again supporting the argument that the “REAL” face of the monarchy has died and what we’ve been left with is a load of gossip-mongers who behave like overgrown teenagers.

    On a side note: I always felt she endured his presence to keep her “favourite” son out of the clutches of the FBI. Which is another reason why I find it hard to believe she would have said anything derogatory about DT (or his marriage) to anyone other than a close confidant.

    • Gtwiecz Johnson next. says:

      More thsn that. Knowing Trump’s connection to Epstein, and him being president, she had to be nice to him. It worked out well since Epstein was jailed.

  19. Lady Digby says:

    I bet the Crown Prince and his bride had similar thoughts about Will’s rudeness to his wife at their wedding in 2023. Once again Will rude and arrogant ordering about his own wife in public was recast as relateability to exasperated husband’s everywhere when their wife won’t stop yakking and they want to move on! Chop! Chop! indeed what boorish behaviour! I bet he’s the talk of Royalty WhatsApp groups as the man you don’t wanted seated next to you at weddings, coronations, bar mitzvahs etc.,

  20. Lau says:

    She probably took one look at Trump, sighed heavily and muttered “I’m too old for this shit” loud enough that everybody in the room was able to hear it. Trump is going to be so mad about that story, it will take away whatever is left of his sanity (there isn’t much left though).

    • sunnyside up says:

      Perhaps the republicans will finally realise that he is NBG and find someone decent.

  21. Sassy says:

    Trump was late for arrival when he met the Queen for the first time

  22. KBeth says:

    That pic of him in his tux always cracks me up. “Look at me mommy, I’m wearing my big boy clothes”!!

  23. Wesley says:

    I can’t imagine the Queen making any comments on the Trumps, although I can believe she found him boorish. Her opinion was usually expressed in her use of jewellery, and if I remember correctly, her speech of welcome to him was quite something. Wasn’t she picked up on audio during news filming of Trumps visit complaining he’d broken something that was on display?