Chappell Roan has had a huge year. Her music has been omnipresent at nearly every major event, her performances garner huge headlines and tons of social media engagement, and Roan has now gotten so major, it feels like there’s a quiet backlash. “Industry plant” rumors abound, cultural conversations about “setting boundaries with fans” and public clapbacks on paparazzi and more. I went into her Rolling Stone profile having read some of the quotes out of context, and wanting to see the context and the larger portrait of Chappell. She’s 26, from a conservative Christian family in Missouri. She was diagnosed as bipolar when she was 22-ish. She still deals with bad moments, crazy highs and the lowest lows. I came out of this interview respecting her and understanding that she’s not an industry plant, but I also think she comes across (at times) as very immature and attention-seeking and very mixed up politically. Still, she’s genuinely talented. Some highlights from this RS piece:
Rethinking how she interacts with fans. She won’t respond to the name “Kayleigh” and says no to most photos. One fan asked for a photo while Roan was having a fight with her girlfriend and was clearly in distress. “They need to see me as a random bitch on the street,” she says to me, a sentiment that she will repeat in a pair of TikToks about creepy fan behavior she’ll post in August. “You can’t yell at a random bitch who’s on the sidewalk that you don’t know. It’s considered catcalling or harassment.”
She’s getting a lot of support from her industry peers: “I’m not trying to name-drop. I’m trying to tell you there are girls who are good people, who are helping other girls out. I’m name-dropping them because people just need to know that people are good people.” There has been a notable exception: “Not a lot of boys have been like, ‘Let me know if you ever want to talk about it,’ ” she points out. There have only been a few: Peck, Troye Sivan (an early fan of Roan), Noah Kahan, and Elton John. “It’s been sick to have artists that I’ve looked up to for many years, sometimes my whole life, reach out.”
The industry plant accusation: “Just because you don’t know someone doesn’t mean that they’re an industry plan. Did you ever consider maybe you’re just out of the loop?”
Empathy for Republicans: Roan carries more empathy for her conservative relatives and friends back home than people on the coast sometimes understand: “I have family that are very Republican, and they love me and I love them. It’s so hard for kids who grew up on the coast to understand why maybe I can … understand. And I understand all of it that was in me came from fear because I just didn’t know.”
Turning down an invitation to perform at the Biden White House: At Gov Ball, Roan revealed to the audience that she had turned down an invite to the White House’s Pride Celebration…she dedicated the song to the Biden administration, protesting its involvement in the destruction of Gaza and death of civilian Palestinians. “We want liberty, justice, and freedom for all. When you do that, that’s when I’ll come,” she said. At her house, Roan tells me she had something “way worse” planned. She was originally going to say yes, show up, and then refuse to perform; instead, she would protest with some poetry. “I had picked out some poems from Palestinian women. I was trying to do it as tastefully as I could because all I wanted to do was yell. I had to find something that’s tasteful and to the point and meaningful, and not make it about me and how I feel. I don’t know if I’ll ever get that close in direct sight of the president ever in my life. This is my shot.” She talked it through with her publicist, who was supportive but made a point: “You f–k with the president and the government, your security is not the same, and neither is your family’s.”
People were confused: “I saw a couple of TikToks where they were like, ‘So she’s pro Trump?’ ” Roan’s face contorts into disgust. “It is not so black and white that you hate one and you like the other. No matter how you say it, people are still going to be pissed for f–king some reason. I’m not going to go to the White House because I am not going to be a monkey for Pride.”
On Joe Biden’s reelection campaign (at the time): “I’m pretty, ‘F–k the government, and f–k everything that’s going on right now.’ I don’t have a side because I hate both sides, and I’m so embarrassed about everything going on right now.”
Now that Kamala Harris is the nominee: “Right now, it’s more important than ever to use your vote, and I will do whatever it takes to protect people’s civil rights, especially the LGBTQ+ community. My ethics and values will always align with that, and that hasn’t changed with a different nominee. I feel lucky to be alive during an incredibly historical time period when a woman of color is a presidential nominee.”
In a matter of weeks, she went from “Genocide Joe will hunt down my MAGA family if I scream Palestinian poetry at a White House Pride event” to “of course I will always support the pro-LGBTQ rights candidate, I was always on that side.” That’s what I mean about her immaturity – she clearly couldn’t align her ethics and values to the most pro-LGBTQ president in history, but hey, she changed her mind now that all of her friends are saying nice things about Kamala Harris. Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad that more young people are engaged and interested in the election. But VP Harris is a Biden Democrat and these younger people have no idea what that means. Anyway… I enjoy her music. Her interviews are a little eh.
Speaking of, this quote from Chappell was making the rounds over the weekend. She’s a both-sideser. Which means she’s a Republican.
Chappell Roan on why she hasn't endorsed Kamala Harris:
"I have so many issues with our government in every way… There are so many things that I would want to change. So I don’t feel pressured to endorse someone. There’s problems on both sides." pic.twitter.com/JrVU3G4Iyr
— Pop Flop (@PopFlopHQ) September 21, 2024
Photos courtesy of Cover Images. Cover courtesy of Rolling Stone.
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I think immature is a good way to describe her – just undeveloped intellectually and ethically because she’s young and inexperienced, and probably undereducated growing up in the Bible Belt. She sounds so much like an idiot 20 yo who doesn’t think they’re an idiot. I think most of us look back on some of the things we said in the past and shudder. The difference is she’s being published in RS right before the election so there’s no “both sides” to it. Has she read the Republican platform?
I feel the Russian disinformation campaigns on Israel-Palestine has been so effective at disenfranchising immature, inexperienced voters from the Dems that they can’t even see the threat to them personally from the Republican agenda.
She’s 26. Miley was 20 when she twerked at the VMAs. Jojo Siwa was 21 when she said she wants to start a brand new genre of music called gay pop. The latter two can be excused as immaturity. Chappell dedicated a song to Biden protesting Gaza and death of Palestinian civilians. So obvioulsy she gets informed . . . but to stay silent on Project 2025? That will affect her and the LGBTQ+ community she belongs to?! It’s pretty obvious she cherry picks what information she wants to learn about. It’s no longer acceptable to say that both sides are not good. Even 18 year olds are getting registered and tiktoking about project 2025. She has no excuse. So either she just does not care or she is not only a closet conservative/ republican, but worse – she’s MAGA republican.
Agreed. The threats of Project 2025, which include national bans on abortion and birth control, and Tr*mp’s professed intention to be a dictator (now permissible thanks to the Supreme Court) outweigh anything else. PLUS, does she really think Tr*mp will give a f*ck about the Palestinians? Time to take a side. I like her music, but she’s exhausting in general.
Exactly! She said people should vote local, with what’s going on in their city, but her own vote seems to be mostly affected by the war in Palestine. Her stans will bow down to whatever she says. If Trump gets elected and trans rights get eliminated, she’ll be protesting left, right and centre. If only she could have done something with her considerable influence BEFORE the election… she’ll just say she was too young to understand and maybe that’s true. But she’s got a big team around her. Her publicist is saying to sacrifice other people’s security (especially trans people) for hers and her family’s by not protesting the President which she did by not going to Pride at the White House and her comments in interviews. Girl, so confusing
Yep. I agree with you @Kaiser – “She’s a both-sideser. Which means she’s a Republican.”. She’s queer, yet she does not feel pressured to endorse the presidential candidate who values her rights as an LGBTQ+? She’s white first and foremost . .
Just like Caitlyn Jenner.
Yeah. My main thought while reading this: “excruciatingly white”.
So, as a Missourian, these comments from Chappell were SO upsetting. Unfortunately here in Missouri the Republican Party has decided to target gay and trans youth in a model established by Trump himself. They’ve taken away healthcare for the trans community and they are targeting bathroom usage in schools across the state.
They’ve also taken away the rights of women to make our own healthcare decisions (and tried to block us when we fought for a vote on the issue). These issues start at the top of the house and with the head of the Republicans Party. It is intellectually incongruent see her espouse a line of thinking that puts the community she claims to love at risk, which has already experienced very real harm from Trump’s first term. We are still living with the consequences of that election.
The reality is that one of these two candidates will win the election. Not supporting Harris because the Dem platform isn’t perfect is a cop out, and really immature. I agree with everyone saying that it comes from a place of privilege.
Well said juju. There’s such a huge difference in their policies when it comes to the LGBTQ+ community. It’s wild that she ignores that.
26 is a little old to be so uninformed.
I’m not from Missouri but I hope the guy runn8ng against Hawley prevails. I hate that f@@@er.
I can’t stand her. I haven’t even heard any of her music but she pops up in so many controversies that I now don’t even want to listen to her.
She seems, first and foremost, an absolute idiot and sorry, at 26 you’re an adult and should know better. I had enough of infantilising people.
Thank you! I’m so tired of people infantilizing white women in their 20s (or even 30s). She’s a fully fledged adult. At 26 my father was a married father of two serving in the military. 26 is not a child. She’s old enough to inform herself about these issues.
I guess she feels she is safely out so to hell with the kids who will suffer horrific harm by republicant policies. Their lives are in danger. I think this is also what we get when we let republicants tear apart the public school system and demonize it. She has no idea that when they build the concentration camps for asylum seekers, they will use the same camps for the LBGTQ community, minorities regardless of citizenship, disabled people, journalists, women who defy them, etc. etc. etc.
History tells us that people who want to ban books and build concentration camps are NEVER right. But here she is, “both siding” it.
“My kink is Karma” is a straight ripoff of every Taylor Swift song and I’ll die on that hill.
Anyway…
She strikes me as one news cycle away from saying we “made” her become a trumper. She had an intense persecution complex and thirst for attention. Not saying she hasn’t been harassed by fans. But I’ve also seen a lot of nasty entitled behavior from her.
Oh, ironic that her fans were calling out Taylor for not taking a stand but they’re now defending her for worse.
Both sides blah, blah, blah……………….just a cowardly way to say you align as a MAGAt.
That her republicant relatives love her is so meaningless. That statement reeks of privilege. It’s all fine because they love HER no matter that they want to put asylum seekers in concentration camps, strip women of even the most basic rights, turn back the clock on the LGBTQ community, screw the over-heating planet, put kids back to work in factories and slaughter houses, cancel overtime pay, get rid of health care.
Women are DYING because of their policies, but sure, you are butt hurt at some imagined slight from democrats.
Exactly. At a time when so many of us grieve the loss of family to Maga. Good for her she gets to make nice with Facists. Not sure that will save her from the gulag.
Bingo. I hate that we as a collective treat politicians like we’re looking for our spouse. We’re hiring someone for a job, and then we hold their feet to the fire. It IS black and white…we have two candidates. Period. There’s no mythical hero coming to save the day as the perfect progressive candidate. Harris isn’t perfect (I score as far to the left as you can on every test, trust me, she’s far from my soulmate) but she’s a strong candidate with the right values, and our best bet at averting catastrophe is hiring her and then demanding she does the job well.
she’s definitely not a Republican lol. she’s a Gen Z’er who comes from a very conservative family and area, and finds herself disappointed with both options.
while it’s maddening to me, as someone who lives in NH and has kids around her age, this is more common than you might think.
My kids are gen-z socialists and they will still vote. We are in a solid blue state and we’ve discussed how important it is to get the popular vote numbers up as high as possible. They aren’t thrilled about Harris but they would never consider not voting. We’ve taken them to the polls since they were toddlers, we discuss current events at dinner every day. They know their privilege, we never let them forget it. Even my biracial trans son knows his education and economic status gives him privilege, as does his access to healthcare that lets him pass. I have no patience for white people that both sides anything and while youth and inexperience can account for the attitude it is not an excuse to let people off the hook.
I’m not letting anyone off the hook, I’m just saying it doesn’t automatically make her a Republican that she feels this way.
she also at no point said she wasn’t going to vote. she said she will vote, she’s just not going to publicly endorse a candidate. which honestly, is her right. she’s not required to endorse anyone simply because she’s famous. there are a LOT of celebrities (including Beyonce!) who haven’t endorsed anyone, and that’s fine.
She definitely does not need to endorse anyone. But when she says, “I have so many issues with our government in every way… There are so many things that I would want to change. . . There’s problems on both sides.”. What exactly is the messaging here? She’d rather vote for Jill Stein?, RFK, Jr.? or leave her ballot blank? She should just have said, “I will vote but do not feel pressured to endorse anyone”. Instead, we have this “both-sides” messaging. I’m sure anyone can appreciate the difference between the two (both-sidesing and remaining totally opaque on who she’s going to vote for).
I’m absolutely thrilled with Harris, but it’s the role of young people to be idealistic, to suspect the reason our society isn’t more equitable is because we simply haven’t tried hard enough. For them, my message is that change begins locally. The president doesn’t do grass roots activism, but a president can be an enemy to grass roots activism. So choose wisely.
Doesn’t matter if she “is” a Republican. She’s their handmaiden, which is worse. She’s giving a huge gift to facists by suppressing the vote. She’s an unethical piece of garbage.
What are you talking about?
Chapell Roan. Is discouraging voting by both sides-ing. She’s discouraging her millions of young queer and female fans from voting. This is a massive, huge service to republicans. How is this not clear?? She. Is. Helping. Republicans. Voter suppression helps republicans.
“Right now, it’s more important than ever to use your vote.” — Is that the voter suppression part?
“I feel lucky to be alive during an incredibly historical time period when a woman of color is a presidential nominee.” — Is that the Republican handmaiden part?
She’s made it clear that Palestine is an important issue to her, but that’s not the same as not voting. “Unethical piece of garbage” seems a bit hysterical to me, simply because she’s not endorsing anyone.
Miss me with that shit. Women are dying here every day because of her darling republicans. Kamala has shown huge movement on Palestine and Trump is going to torture his opponents and protesters. We currently have a very young child who seems to be presenting as Trans more and more. Chapels “both sides” republicans want us executed as groomers and my child rehomed to christo-facists. So year, anyone providing an excuse structure to sit this one out is garbage to me, my family and everyone I loved. Morally bankrupt is not a strong enough statement. Anyone both sidesing facism is a facist handmaiden.
Those same Republicans would want Chappell executed as a groomer too. I think you are reading this wrong.
I hope this helps to hear… my trans sibling was recently forced to move home to the Midwest state where we grew up after living in California for many years. She was terrified. She has a public facing job and wasn’t sure what to expect. She has found that on a face to face level, people are not hateful. One mom she works with has talked to her a lot about her own child’s transition and she was grateful for the opportunity to help smooth the path for someone else. The worst she’s dealt with so far was a very personal line of questioning from a conservative man at the grocery store, but it was friendly and in the end he shook her hand. Most of the world itself isn’t as toxic as the rhetoric is. We have to vote like our lives depend on it, because they do, but it’s okay that some people are also calling out the violence our government perpetuates against people elsewhere. That’s wrong too. It’s not only wrong if it’s your own child.
Exactly! Republican’s would want Chappell executed as a groomer or for just simply being queer yet she is not as active nor as outspoken against Trump and Project 2025 as she is against Biden because of Gaza. Why is that? Her saying her ethics and values will always align with civil rights & the LGBTQ+ community are simply words when she actually turned down an invitation to the White House because of Gaza. It’s words versus actions and actions always show who you are.
Suppressing the vote?? She had giveaways to her concerts for people signing up to vote and get politically involved.
I agree with Arizona. My kids are in their mid-20s and will vote (correctly, in my opinion), but many of their friends say there aren’t any good choices and they’re not sure they can vote for Kamala Harris because she supports Israel.
Some of them have asked me about it as they know I support her and I have asked each one of them, what do you think will happen if you don’t vote? What do you think will happen here if Trump gets elected? What do you think will happen to Palestine (and Ukraine) if Trump gets elected?
This is tragic. It also explains why this presidential race between a racist felon and an experienced politician is tight. What are these young people being exposed to? Not caring enough about the racism and actual genocide (black people are being killed unceremoniously, not to mention schoolchildren being shot in schools) in their own country and choose to self-righteously sacrifice women’s/ reproduction rights, environment/ science progress for a single issue? They honestly cannot make up their minds who to vote for between the two? At this time 40+ days to the election? Still? I hope these are only in your areas (@Arizona & Natalie_K) and the majority of other young people in other states are not experiencing the same kind of crisis. Otherwise, the country could kiss democracy goodbye. I refuse to think that. I’d like to believe that a majority of young people in their 20s are better than that.
She needs some good PR polishing if she’s gonna continue doing interviews and stay a popstar.
She seems to be having some kind of wonky/traumatized/freakout/something in literally every interview. She is not dealing with sudden fame well at all. Hoping she’s getting therapy, but at this point she probably needs to dial it back down every time someone wants her to speak.
The “throwing a public shit fit at the White House” idea is particularly um, concerning and I’m glad someone talked some sense into her with that one.
I wish the communication about how she experiences politics was more clear. I also have Republican relatives who are for Trump and many of them love me, but I have no difficulty voting differently and I don’t understand why he appeals to those relatives. And not all of them are white. Trump’s 2025 platform is no secret, he lies constantly, but something about Harris and the Democrats (beyond the Israeli war—you don’t vote Trump as a pro-Palestinian voter) is disturbing to her. I wish they had been more transparent about where Trump policies are helpful and Harris policies are not in her opinion.
Edit: I also have (former) Republican relatives who are voting for Harris because they despise Trump. They don’t like Harris’ policies, but are dead scared of America turning into a Nazi country. I want to understand why some Republicans think this way and others don’t.
Exactly. The idea she has some special relationship with Republicans because she’s from Missouri is absolutely laughable. Newsflash. Some of us grew up in a little place called the South. Having Republican relatives isn’t a novel experience and many of us are on the right side of history.
As if her loving republican relatives wouldn’t wish persecution and death on her LGBTQ and especially Trans fans.
My whole birth family except my mom is republican. My dad is a Reagan republican who at this point doesn’t like trump at all. But I’m guessing he’ll still vote for him. I don’t want to ask bc we got in a nasty fight last time we even discussed politics. But he’s very both sides are bad and it enrages me bc fuck that, they’re not. I still watch jeopardy with him and agatha all along. I am trying to speak to him about certain issues in calm situations bc ideally I can at least get him to not vote and stay home. We’re in GA so yeah. My sister who is 11years younger is full on maga and I love her children hard. So yeah. Have unapologetically never wanted kids in my life. No problem with people who do and love love love being an aunt but yeah their parents are maga assholes. My hope is one day they won’t be? Everything sucks in that regard. Bc while I sympathize with Roan to an extent, what you won’t see me doing is arguing that people voting for trump are being good people and that both sides are just as bad. No no no.
Sounds like every 18 year old at uni. You develop opinions every week after you read something new, but you don’t actually have a firm opinion because you don’t have nearly enough information to inform it. Bless her uneducated heart. Scary that she has a platform.
Both-sideing is definitely a tell in the MAGA context. MAGA are not traditional Republicans.
I have friends and family who are maggots — on that Ashley Judd bullshit. Miss me with the white feminism and fake allyship. Man, my respect for Taylor keeps rising.
Exactly, it’s incredible she and others are making us side with Taylor Swift.
Not to mention Tay got her white cis het footballer boyfriend on record supporting her endorsement.
Taylor may have her issues but I’ll take the devil I know. Like I said above, I would be shocked if Chappell doesn’t come out with some bs about how we “made” her maga.
Wait what,, Ashley Judd is maga? But yeah, I’ve said that I have so much time for the ones who will publicly support. I get that it’s not owed and no one has to do so but dang I will give my respect to the ones who do. And that absolutely includes Taylor.
Ashley Jugghead followed Clooney’s steps and wrote some sort of open letter imploring PJB to step out of the race. Sighting “her folks.” See the below:
“My folks are not bad people, in spite of what you may now think of them. They are facing bad options. We must give them a different choice.”
Bumbling ass dummy.
She sounds like Lorde who got famous suddenly at a younger age. She talked a lot of sh*t too during that time. I think the more she gets involved in the industry, gets troubled with the interviews, she is gonna learn how to present herself better. It is weird to “both-side” the politics right now, considering one side literally wants to pass legislation dangerous for women, non-straight people, non-white people. I hope she listens to the other famous people reaching out to her.
Lorde was 16, so it was kind of acceptable. Chappell is 26, she doesn’t have that young privilege
Regardless of her age, there is a tendency to say whatever comes to your mind when you get famous, because as an artist, you think you are cool or nobody told you to shut up before. When you get in trouble, you get PR-trained not to treat interviews as a therapy sessions, but to promote your work.
That said, at her age, she should know better about politics, there is no excuse for that.
You’ve got to be kidding. Chappell is 26. There are people who start practicing law at that age. It’s not the age. It’s her.
“It’s not the age. It’s her.”
That is what I said. She is not media trained and she seems uneducated, so she treats the press interviews as therapy sessions. Some newly famous artists do the same mistake, then they learn the hard way that you don’t say everything comes to your mind in front of the media.
I think we agree. I just think she believes the shit she says, even if she says it in therapy/interviews. I think it comes to mind because that’s what’s in her mind. I don’t get what she would say instead? Some beliefs she doesn’t hold? Too late the damage is done anyway
@Snaggletooth, yeah we agree. The interviews are just promotions for your work. You talk about your work, what you support, your values. You can talk about politics, but it can be done in a more constructive way, instead of “I hate both sides” way. To be fair to her, she mentioned her ongoing mental health issues and her therapist not being able to help her with it anymore. I hope she gets the support she needs, because the public is so quick to turn on the famous women.
I love her music, but I am not optimistic about her future. The level of cognitive dissonance is too high for her age given her sexuality even with her being bipolar. I find her in the “but the leopards won’t eat my face camp” about both LBTQ+ and the nature of fame. Her TikToks are highly personal, so it has fed into the fan “ownership” that she fas railed against.
You’ve got no real left political options in the US, here in Canada we don’t have viable true left options either. Her opinions on Harris are less hard to take than her “I ❤️ my Republican family statement”. Every Black person I know has lost a loved one to racist violence whether police, heathcare, or some other institutional neglect. That’s what systemic racism does. In my life when people say things like her family statement, that’s how I know who to avoid.
Of course her Republican relatives love her. My Trumpist mother loves my gay non-binary child. All the crap they spew about abortion, immigrants, LGBTQ, it only applies to other people, not their own family. That’s the Republican MO. Unfortunately the hateful policies they vote for affect everyone. I’m surprised and disappointed Chappell Roan doesn’t see voting Trump as the personal attack on her, every woman, and everyone in the LGBTQ community that it is.
I would totally support an uninvited Palestinian poetry reading at the White House.
I feel grateful that I don’t know who she is. Let’s hope she matures, as a person and as an artist.
I don’t know the first thing about her but I find her utterly exhausting from what I’ve seen.
In all honesty, yeah, every interview is exhausting.
So her album is wonderful, full of banger after banger. Absolutely no skips. I love her, I think she has an incredible voice. However, as a gay man living in Texas, this upsets me. I think she probably is a Republican or was raised in an extremely Republican, Trumpian environment. Like her, most of my family are Republicans. And it has caused me to be estranged from them. In this day and age, with so much at stake, I simply can’t tolerate their intolerance any longer. I hope she realizes soon that she really can’t be the LGBTQ+ advocate she has positioned herself to be if she can’t be critical of the Trump administration and modern-day Republicans; Trump has done so much to support this “anti-woke” movement that has become so pervasive, especially in the south, and that has caused so much harm to queer people.
Get it together, girl!
I’m not sure why everyone is reading this as her “both-sidesing” or somehow being a low key Republican? Plenty of people vote Dem without loving absolutely every single one of their policies. She clearly puts her support behind Harris in that last paragraph. She also licensed her music to the DNC. It’s okay to vote but not endorse. A lot of young people (and not young people) are pissed as hell about some of the Dems’ longstanding policies. The wise ones are still voting for them.
She literally said “There’s problem on both sides.”. If you have not read the RS piece, at the very least read the excerpt here. She also said, “I don’t have a side because I hate both sides, and I’m so embarrassed about everything going on right now.”. Her letting the DNC use her music does not mean she supports Harris because in the same interview, she expresses her fear of overly anatgonizing the govt she hates (she said ‘F_ the government’) for fear of her safety and her family’s. For somebody who supposedly hates both sides, she’s expressed more words against the Biden administration and when it came to Trump, all she says is it’s not all black and white.
She is what we call in my family, aggressively stupid.
She’s immature, but she’s also stupid. 🤷 She’s too old to be playing both sideism when literal fascism is at the door.“Coastal folk don’t understand,” girl this is why we call you people fly over territory. Y’all really think the most densely populated areas of the US don’t know what conservatives are, like plenty of us haven’t had to literally cut off family. Midwest conservatism doesn’t even hold a candle to the insanity of the south.
Take your garden variety faux allyship and miss me, you parochial-ass looney.
As for the comment in the post about Biden being the most lgbtq+ friendly president in history, I would just like to add that his protege, Sarah McBride, is poised to become the first openly trans member of Congress. She will likely succeed Lisa blunt Rochester as Rep while Lisa should be the only black female senator in congress. (Feinstein’s replacement was only until this election.) Go Delaware and Thank You Joe.
Ugh. I had no idea how far up her own ass she was.
Are there problems on both sides? Of course. No candidate or party is perfect, and you will likely never find one who aligns 100% with your views and priorities. But you still have to choose and vote because otherwise you are conceding everything. I have no patience for this kind of nihilism. It’s petulant and ignorant and destructive.
She’s not a kid. She’s 26. She’s the same age as my daughter, who has spent almost a year fending off similar talk from a lot of her circle in New York. It’s exhausting. Joe Biden forgave a ton of student debt, he’s an LGBTQ ally, pro union and pro choice. And yes, he is also an ally to Israel; but he’s a compassionate man who is doing what he can to bring both sides to the table and put an end to the suffering. And what do these kids do? They call him “Genocide Joe” and turn their backs on him and his successor.
If Trump wins, turns Gaza into a parking lot, criminalizes birth control and puts a target on the backs of trans people, they can whine to the wall about it. They will have been part of the cause and my sympathy level will be in the basement.
She is exhausting and I’m already over her.