It has begun! It’s an annual tradition at this point, the months-long game of Is Prince Harry Coming To England For Christmas? Followed quickly with The Windsors Snubbed Harry For Christmas, which is always bizarrely followed by Harry Probably Thinks He’s Too Good To See His Father For Christmas Anyway. This will be the sixth Christmas in a row where the Sussexes have not been anywhere near Sandringham for Christmas. One holiday in Canada, and then the past five Christmases in California. I’m pretty sure Harry and Meghan have created all new Christmas traditions for themselves and their kids. And yet, the royalist commentators love nothing more than dusting off this annual tradition:
Prince Harry has reportedly not been invited to spend Christmas at Sandringham with the rest of the royal family, according to a royal expert. The Duke of Sussex last spent the festive period with his family six years ago, and has only done two with wife Meghan Markle.
Former royal correspondent Emily Andrews wrote in Woman: “Prince Harry is keen to spend the Christmas holidays in the UK with his wife and children — but Meghan wants to stay in the US. It’s a tricky time for Harry — he hasn’t spent Christmas here for six years and he could be forgiven for feeling rather lonely and estranged from his Windsor relatives.”
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have reportedly been extended an invite to spend Christmas with Harry’s uncle Charles Spencer at Althorp House in Northamptonshire. However, they would be missing out on seeing their extended family.
Emily added: “All the royals will gather at Sandringham in December, and I’m told that all the cousins, such as Eugenie, Beatrice, Zara and Peter Phillips, all look forward to the fun.”
Editor-in-chief of Majesty Magazine Ingrid Seward told Fabulous: “I think the Duchess of Sussex’s views on coming back to the UK are probably pretty negative. I don’t imagine you would want to come back to a country where you are so universally disliked. And also there’s the problem of the security which is still not solved, and Harry says he won’t bring his wife and children back here until he feels that he is in a secure position. I do think that Harry and Meghan have a dilemma with their family life, because the children are getting older, and the children are probably absolutely intrigued to know what their cousins are like. They wouldn’t remember them. And I think that maybe an invitation from Charles Spencer might be attractive, and they would meet other cousins.”
Ingrid claimed that “hunkering down in California” with their kids Archie, four, and Lilibet, two, is “more their style” than coming over to England for Christmas, but added “it is possible.” She continued: “But then it’s going to raise a lot of questions. Is Harry going to see his father? Is he going to see any other members of his family? So I would think at the moment they’re undecided. They seem to make a lot of fairly last minute decisions in their lives.”
Something that just occurred to me is that the “Archie and Lili are curious about their cousins” bullsh-t is projection too. That’s all about the royal kids (maybe even the Wales kids) wondering about Uncle Harry’s children. It’s also frankly about the adult Windsors’ desire to exploit Archie and Lili by any means necessary. Please, two cute little redheads, one of whom is Diana’s only blue-eyed grandchild? They would be center-stage at any family event. Which is another reason why Harry keeps his kids far away. And all of this breast-beating about “Meghan refuses to come but Harry is keen but Charles won’t invite him!” Jesus H. I hope Harry takes his kids surfing on Christmas and there are photos and the royalists cry all day.
Photos courtesy of Cover Images, Archewell.
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- Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan Markle, Duchess of Sussex attending the One Year to Go Event before the Invictus Games Vancouver Whistler 2025 at Mountain Square Featuring: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex Where: Whistler, Canada When: 14 Feb 2024 Credit: Dutch Press Photo/Cover Images **NOT AVAILABLE FOR PUBLICATION IN THE NETHERLANDS OR FRANCE**
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- Guests arrive to attend a ceremony marking the 10th anniversary of the Invictus Games, at Saint Paul’s Cathedral, London Featuring: Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex Where: London, United Kingdom When: 08 May 2024 Credit: Cover Images
Aren’t the kids 5&3? Is this literally a copy and paste from last year?
Exactly. They can’t even be arsed to proofread.
And those kids are too young to even be aware they’re “missing” something. All they know is happy Christmas’s with Mom and Dad, their pets dogs and chickens.
To be fair – my kids are 12 and 10 and in no way consider us to be “missing out” by staying away from incredibly toxic family members.
Given the Sussexes strong record as caring and involved parents as well as being deeply involved with mental health – I’m sure that their kids will understand the nuances of the situation (daddy still loves his dad even though his dad has hurt him. But daddy can set boundaries to protect himself etc) as well as most of the entirety of the situation eventually. With things being explained to them so that they feel empowered and proud of the decisions made to protect them and empowered in their ability to set boundaries as well.
That’s what most millennial families who are no contact with toxic family members strive for. To truly break the generational trauma cycle by 1- removing the toxic people 2- giving themselves and their children the tools to recognize and respond to toxic behavior 3- to set healthy boundaries
And if they go to the beach for Christmas (which I would, and do!, when I live near a beach), I’d hardly call that ‘hunkering down’. That’s just ridiculous.
I’m from a huge family. We’ve missed close family connection events. Time & logistics. Not a new thing. Christmas at Sandringham? sounds like a very unfestive event and bad memories. Boring a$$ people. I’m snubbing the BRF to my get togethers. I would not snub an invite to H&M’s holiday gathering.
LOL @BeanieBean. We hunkered down one year in Florida for Christmas to avoid a stressful situation. Great time! We were the a@@holes at the time. Different story now. We had a great time. Others did not.
@steph: that caught my eyes too. Anyways, probably still too young to actively be “curious” about some cousins overseas.
Well, this BS is all on the UK press.
Chucky is not interested in meeting Harry and his family (nore does Willy) – it looks like he has invited the Parker Bowles this year for Christmas at Sandringham, and Baldy has been throwing a tantrum, treathening to not attend if Camilla’s son will be there. And Kitty’s camp has already annouced a “rival Chirstmas” with the Middletons.
Regarding the Sussexes:
Archie and Lili don’t know any better than celebrating Christmas in the sun/in California, with their parents, grandma, friends, etc.
And by the way, H&M only spent Christimas twice in the UK, at Sandringham, as invités of QE2:
* In 2017, as an engage couple (the queen had never invited “engaged to be married non-royals” before);
* In 2018 as newlyweds;
* In 2019 they had a break with Archie and the dogs on Vancouver Island, Canada (yeah, just before ThanksGiving they had to escaped the abusive family and the press’ horrendous treatment, to never return and live in the UK as a family again);
* They’ve spent all Christmasses in the US since 2020.
So, UK press, good luck with the snubbing.
The UK Royals’ lives sound like a poorly written soap opera. Can you imagine being stuck at Sandringham with two selfish, arrogant seniors, a couple of 42 year old spoilt brats (the bald one having a tantrum and fighting with his stepmother’s family), and a bunch of hangers-on? It sounds unbelievably gruesome, not to mention toxic. No thank you! Harry and Meghan’s Christmas, by comparison, will be amazing, surrounded by loving family in a beautiful location.
I’m laughing. A holiday where I might be weighed or fed with tasty things. A holiday where I might to appear to having fun or, someplace else, having fun. Christmas in H&M’s Montecito home is a dream. They’re festive. Not basic or boring.
I noticed that. They are recycling the same tired bilge and can’t be bothered to change the details; tis the season, rinse and repeat last years sludge. Can you see a 5yr old and a 3yr old asking about cousins they have never seen?
LOL she thinks a TWO year old is curious about cousins she’s never seen. 😂
My god these rehashed “snub” articles are so boring. Even the bots in the comment section have to be disengaged at this point. No one cares about this at all, especially not when Harry is having high level meetings with NATO which is what is really burning their biscuits.
You know what would make a great Christmas? The Spencers spending the holiday in California with their favorite nephew and his family.
Ohhh yeahh 😀
Maybe Kate can re-gift her “invite” to Harry and Meghan, since it’s been made clear IN THE ACTUAL PRESS that it isn’t necessary for her to attend? *snort*
I wonder if william and kate are already separated and she wasn’t invited rather than it not being “necessary” for her to attend. That church walk this year will be interesting
You just reminded me, what ever happened to all the “Kate is the great peace maker” stories? They just disappeared.
she threw up her hands in exasperation or something something … she gave up trying to get harry’s attention
Sigh. Meghan is not “universally disliked” and if some people on that crusty isle think negatively of her, it’s because propaganda works. I’m still shocked by the way the “palace insiders” and rota rats colluded to smear her good name. I would love to see her “take back the night” and write a scathing tell all about that moldy Egg in particular.
^^ Exactly @Agnes. 🤣😂 Moreover, perennial grifter, Ignorant Sewer, needs to accept the fact that just because she knows absolutely nothing about any of the Sussexes’ plans, projects, nor their upcoming itinerary does NOT mean that H&M “seem to make a lot of fairly last minute decisions.” 🤡 Nope fyi, angry IgSe, the Sussexes can do whatever they want without your knowledge, and without your endless, incompetent whining and lying about them.
#ThereAreNoLeaksInMontecito!
This is so funny, but not the laughing kind funny.
I’m glad they realized Meghan is not coming to anything related with the BRF.
Those children would be treated coldly by the keens. Harry would not leave his wife home and go with the children. Meghan was treated horribly there. Ingrid needs to retire now. Charles had years to see those children. Retreats have been more of a,priority to Charles than seeing his youngest grandchildren
You got that right. London is closer to LA than to Australia. He managed that trip. Likely nobody would stand in LA with “not my king” signs.
Exactly.
Never forget William ” I already have a nephew”.
Archie will read that one day and will know how awful his uncle is.
Yep. Baby Archie was ignored by Kate, Charlotte, & George, only little Louis–too young to pick up on Mom’s vibe–interacted with Archie & Meghan. And they seem to be forgetting we remember the big deal they made about snubbing Lilibet’s first birthday party. They were so proud of that, snubbing a little girl’s first birthday party.
UK media not knowing what H&M are up to until the ‘last minute’ does NOT mean they’re making last minute decisions, lol! It just means no leaks. As ever, Seward comes over as both ill-informed and delusional. Daft for anyone to give her a platform, tbh. Even The Sun.
As for Emily Andrews, I’m told she’s now an increasingly desperate freelancer who has no access whatsoever to insider info re: the Sussexes.
And she keeps making stuff up.
That woman has zero access to anything Harry and his family. And at this point, since she’s barely freelancing, I think she is very much out of the rota’s scope, regarding any updates about the leftbehind royals too. She’s just giving fanfic commentary for a few pounds.
What has Emily been up to? Since I left Twitter, I haven’t seen or heard from her. She was desperate for relevance and some kind of cred while on the Meghan hate train. It was really sad to behold. I’m surprised she hasn’t thrown in with Piss Morgan.
She doesn’t deserve it.
They’re used to being briefed from some palace press agent about royals plans to see each other or holiday plans. It disturbs them having the Sussex’s outside the institution and no obligations to fill them in on plans.
These people are exhausting. Harry must do a little dance every holiday over his snubbed status.
I’m doing a little dance about it too! 🤣
Oh yes then William can make his raids on harry and bully him. Keen can go over to harry to be peacemaker. And the keens would keep their children away from the Sussex children. Ingrid needs badly to get a clue.
When Lilibet turned one in the UK Keen and Huevo took their kids away. That was a disgusting snub. They missed the one opportunity for their kids to know each other.
They didn’t even bother doing the math to get the kids age right (or maybe they can’t count to five) but we’re supposed to believe they know their inner thoughts and feelings…
The nonsense continues in a daily basis. A USA gossip “blind” site says that a divorce would establish whether children actually exist and the comments were bat sh-t off the wall crazy. Yes, people believe it.
Isn’t there something legal to put an end to this gossip being “out there.” Charles apparently does not care about the gossip about his younger two grandchildren. It is a real disgrace.
Meghan’s name/gossips have never been written about in these disgusting, lying online gossip websites BEFORE her dating Harry news broke. So there’s a solid effort & evidence to smear her name from “someone” or some “organizations”. And they still do.
Archie & Lily have real love from grandma Doria, they don’t need the fake, hollow interests from both grandfathers. I’m guessing this year’s Sussex Holiday Card: Picture from their visit to either Nigeria or Colombia?
The rota is boring at this point; and Archie and Lili are not missing a thing. Christmas at Sandringham sounds miserable and mix on Camilla’s brood it’s a horror show. The BM is really mad the Sussex children will not be available for the Christmas church pap stroll where they can make money off their image. Also, Harry can’t take the kids out of the US without Meghan’s consent. I hope the Sussexes will have a wonderful holiday season with the traditions they already established.
It is insulting for these writers to even mention Meghan staying home. She is the children’s mother and it is made to sound she is inferior but the royals will accept seeing harry and the children without her. That is just out of line. Harry was treated horribly and he does not have to perform and bring the children to please the media
Remember everything is cover for what they want to say about Willy & Kate.
Kate isn’t invited & isn’t going because they are separated so the press has to make it ok that she isn’t there by saying it’s ok Meghan wouldn’t go either.
Just like when the Queen died. Willy didn’t want her there; they had already set the stage for the move to Adelaide so were already separated.
It’s always about the other two
The Rota should enjoy the church pap stroll while they can. I think it will die with Chuckles, since William doesn’t GAF about church.
Good point, forgot about that. He’s not going to church of his own volition.
I’m not Christian so the church thing isn’t on my radar.
But he’s going to be the “head” of the Church of England.
He needs to get over the burning sensation he gets upon entering a church asap.
Okay, I’m sorry. The made-up nonsense and lies. Emily Andrews is saying that Harry is keen to spend Christmas in the uk. Ummm. Does she have a freaking source for that statement? Bc in no way does she know that.
Her source is probably her imagination.
I’ve been in England in December, and I’ve been in SoCal in December; you’d better believe I’d choose a beach Christmas holiday any year.
Lol, it’s a super-sized Advent calendar – every day a different story about how H&M are being snubbed for Christmas.
“It’s a tricky time for Harry…”
Yeah pretty sure it’s not. At all.
It’s a tricky time for royal fiction writers who have no access and nothing new to say, left with royals who are wholly uninteresting and lacking in any star power or charm…
^^ Exactly @AJ! 💯 🎯
The British Media made up narrative:
* Meghan is wicked and everyone hates her in England.
* Harry is begging his dad to let him back into the bosom of the royal family
* Harry is miserable living in CA with Meghan and the children
* Harry’s children are dying to meet their cousins in England
* William and Kate are happily married.
* Charles, William and Kate are a saintly bunch.
Come on people, why are you whipping the carcass of this horse that’s been dead for six years!!
I was waiting to see how the rats were going to spin Harry’s NATO meeting as him trying to outshine willy’s flop homeless doc. You know that Harry “planned” the meeting on the same day.
Well they had nothing, so its back to the dead horse again. Damn, sooo boring!
November 1 yes that checks snubbing season has begun. What a joke with this nonsense. Harry isn’t coming invited or not !! Get over it move on it’s been 5 years since they left.
I’m keen to stop seeing “keen” as a filler in these stories … how can a 5 and 3 year old be curious about cousins they don’t know anything about and never met. I’m also not sure how many ways Harry could say he’s not bringing his wife and children back. It’s a non starter. I have an interracial marriage that is 100% not supported by my family even to the point where when our son was born stillborn my mother offered no sympathy and reminds me constantly that my husband must have dishonest feelings about me and we won’t last.
So we make our own holiday traditions as a family of two and our happy about it and we spend time with my in laws who prefer to be called my “in-loves”
This will never end. Narcissistic people will forever want attention to be paid to them or look to manipulate you – it hurts and sucks when it’s family but you have to just pay them dust.
I don’t think Archie and Lili will ever be that curious about cousins they haven’t met. I don’t have any relationship with many of my cousins because we grew up on different continents. I know their names and some details about their lives but I don’t miss a relationship I’ve never had with them.
My parents have an interracial marriage. One side was not accepting for many years. My siblings and I had no real interest in meeting the cousins on that side, because we understood that racism was involved. We didn’t feel cheated – if anything, just contempt for the old world attitudes that prevented the marriage from being accepted.
I am so sorry for the loss of your son and the added insult of no compassion from family. May you and your in-loves have a wonderful supportive long life together.
“In-loves” 😍
At that age Archie and Lili have no concept of what a cousin is or the Royal Family so they’re really not missing anything. Christmas for the press is their desire to exploit the Sussexes, especially the children.
For Archie’s first Christmas, when an invite to Sandringham would have been automatic, the Sussexes chose to spend Christmas in another country.
I don’t think Harry is sitting in california pining away for a Sandringham Christmas.
Does he miss Christmas in England? no one here knows. He may, to some extent – I’m sure there is a very different feeling to Christmas in England vs Christmas in California.
But even if that’s the case, that doesn’t translate to “harry is so sad he can’t walk to church and parade his children past photographers on Christmas morning.”
I feel pretty confident saying that H&M have created their own Christmas traditions in California and they’re pretty happy with those traditions.
What is there to miss? As a British person who spends most Christmases in the UK I don’t think there is anything special about a UK Christmas that you can’t replicate elsewhere. What makes it special is spending it with loved ones. Harry’s wife and kids are in the US so I’m sure Christmas in California is great.
I mean I dont know, I’ve never spent Christmas in either place but the holiday can have a very different feel from state to state or city to city.
I didn’t say Christmas in CA wasn’t great.
@Julia – I’ve lived away from my country of birth (the UK) for almost 50 years. There is much that I miss about Christmas in the UK because the country I live in doesn’t celebrate it the same way. However, we make an effort every Christmas to celebrate it in the way my husband and I knew before we emigrated. I would not spend Christmas back in the UK now if you paid me. Too many toxic family members. Christmas celebrations are whatever you create for yourselves, no matter which country you live in. Harry and Meghan and their children will be just fine in California.
I hope they go to Althrop and the tabs find out after the fact. It can be done
Yes, and it would serve the left-behinds right!
Why would they? Althorp was never an option before. The UK press only brought the Spencers and Athorp up/made that stuff up, after Harry went to the memorial service of his aunt’s husband. They themselves have never said anyting.
Harry and Meghan have created their own family Christmas traditions with their kids for years know. I just don’t understand why people would believe, and pille on fantasising even more about the fanfic the UK tabloid hacks have created about how and where H&M and their kids were to spend any of their family holidays.
Hope they have a beautiful Christmas 🎄 who knows maybe they will spend it in their new mansion in Portugal this year..now that is the story they should have tried this year 🤣 this recycled 💩 is getting old.
Not one of the luxioury homes in that project have been built yet. Don’t fall for the PR stunt to use H&M to sell something that’s not selling. Please (eye rolling).
Oh that was definitely sarcasm on my part, I never believed the Portugal story but at least it isn’t a repeat story that they have run for the last six years about a “christmas snubbing”.
This whole drama is about the press. They are DESPERATE to continue exploiting the royal family now and in the future. In order to do that they need to project them as a big happy family. It’s just not realistic. Not just down to Harry and Meghan not coming over for Christmas. The Wales’ are also sick of the whole Sandringham charade and want their own family celebrations without Charles and Camilla’s family. Charles has a problem with both of his sons and it is a BAD look that he only has Camilla’s family around. The Wales would rather be with the Middletons and the Sussexes would rather stay in California. It works for both of them. The only ones that lose out is the press and Charles’ image.
I’m also tired of the media trying to project feelings on Archie and Lilibet feeling sad/mad not knowing their cousins. They are so young they aren’t fully aware or experienced to miss people they don’t know. If anything the Wales children would be more likely to be aware and curious about their cousins but the press won’t put that pressure and guilt on W&K like they do M&H.
My mother’s side of the family, especially her mother, did not care for my dad. By the time I was in kindergarten, around Archie’s age, I already knew my brother and I were treated different than the other cousins on that side. My mom thought she was doing the “right” thing by dragging us to holidays and parties with those people, she really did. But it was toxic and by the time I was Archie’s age I knew that, even if I couldn’t put a name to it. Harry and Meghan are smart for avoiding this with their kids.
@Pebbles – Agreed. It’s the same old story in the UK at Christmas when your family grows. Who to spend Christmas with, and who will be offended if you don’t spend it with them? The late Queen kept it all together by her insistence that all her family spent Christmas at Sandringham with her, although that started to change when William married Kate because she wanted to spend it with the Middletons. Princess Diana also hated the family gathering at Sandringham at Christmas. Things have changed drastically with the ascent of Charles and Camilla. Now her extended family is invited and this puts William’s nose out of joint. Toxic doesn’t begin to cover it.
More likely the Middletons were not invited for Sandringham…
What’s wrong with brown eye’s??
@Ohwell – Nothing per se. It’s just that questions have been raised by some as to why Prince George and Princess Charlotte have brown eyes when their father and mother do not. Kate’s eye-colour is best described as “hazel” but appears green much of the time. There are a lot of ugly rumours circulating about the Wales children which I’m not prepared to discuss here. However, it’s a question of genetics. Brown eye-colour dominates. I’ve no idea what colour eyes Archie and Lili have but they are likely to be brown like Meghan’s because brown is dominant over blue (i.e. Harry).
Charlotte has green eyes. Harry and Meghan said Lili has blue eyes. George might have gotten his Middleton grandfather’s brown eyes.
Brown isn’t necessarily dominant over blue. Certainly not in my family.
@Camomile: it’s basic genetics: https://www.news-medical.net/health/Genetics-of-Eye-Color.aspx
If you don’t want to read the whole article, here’s the pertinent part, ‘The allele for brown eyes is the most dominant allele and is always dominant over the other two alleles and the allele for green eyes is always dominant over the allele for blue eyes, which is always recessive.’
Brown is dominant over blue and blue is recessive. Like the gene for red hair, Meghan carries a blue gene from her horrible father. When combined with Harry’s recessive genes for red hair and blue eyes (rarest of the rare), there was always a good statistical likelihood that one of their children would be redhaired and blue eyed.
My father was blue eyed red haired, my mother is a green eyed brunette. My brother is a green eyed brunette, I’m a red haired blue eyed gal. My brother also tans wonderfully while the sun is my archnemesis, so there are drawbacks to being the rarest of the rare lol
Lili’s eyes are blue, Archie’s eyes are brown. Satisfied?
They’re going to play this story every fall like A Christmas Story on USA Network. What I don’t get though is how they frame these stories as if no one has ever moved to another country, and doesn’t go back for holidays every single year. You would think for most people reading this they would have family members that either live in other countries, maybe they are immigrants themselves, or maybe they live close by to family but prefer to stay with their immediate family for the holiday. It has to come across very odd to them that, the British media seem to think that not wanting to fly 11 hours during the holidays is an odd decision when there are people who don’t even want to drive to the other side of the city they live in for family dinners.
@Dee(2) – I think it’s because it’s ingrained into the British psyche that British traditions, especially at Christmas, are better than anybody else’s. The British public, fuelled by the tabloids, cannot get their heads around why anybody would want to spend Christmas in another country away from their family members.
“It’s the most wonderful time of the year…”
Put on that old record again, British reporters!
Well, Archie and Lili don’t know any better than celebrating Christmas in the sun/in California, with their parents, grandma, friends, etc.
By the way, H&M only spent Christimas twice in the UK, at Sandringham, as invités of QE2:
* In 2017, as an engage couple (the queen had never invited “engaged to be married non-royals” before);
* In 2018 as newlyweds;
* In 2019 they had a break with Archie and the dogs on Vancouver Island, Canada (yeah, just before ThanksGiving they had to escaped the abusive family and the press’ horrendous treatment, to never return and live in the UK as a family again);
* They’ve spent all Christmasses in the US since 2020.
That’s another thing that I don’t get, the norm is for them not to be at Sandringham not for them to be there. Out of the past 7 years they’ve only gone twice why are they treating them like they were frequent attendees. I don’t remember before Harry married Meghan but between 2010 and 2016 how often did he go to Christmas there himself?
Before Meghan, he spent at least one Christmas in Afghanistan.
The detail about Archie and Lili being curious about their cousins in the UK – we have no idea how Harry and Meghan will present their side of the story to their kids but whatever they choose to tell them, I doubt it will make Archie and Lili want to know more about that side of the family. It’ll be the Wales kids who will be curious about their American cousins because Archie and Lili will grow up with more freedom to do what they want and go where they want. George, Charlotte, and Louis will grow behind the stifling palace walls in the claustrophobic UK. I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up being jealous of them and if Charlotte and Louis rebel as they get older (I do think George will end up like William, bitter and reluctant about being king). We have no idea how the story will evolve but it won’t be the Sussex kids getting the short end of the stick childhood wise.
It is, at best, an 11 hour flight – not counting check in, security etc. That is for a direct flight. And a 7 hour time zone change. No thank you.
“Snubbed” Just makes me laugh.
Who are the rags trying to sell this Baloney too?
I hope H&M and the kids head out to some fun, sunny vacation privately for the holidays and enjoy themselves.
You know the PR from W&K about their “perfect” life is gonna be turned up to 500% for the Xmas times. Ugh!
Ooooh! Argentina with Nacho and family!!
And why pray tell would Archie and lili be keen to see people who allow their media Lapdogs to abuse their parents especially their mother on a daily basis. Why would Archie want to spend his Christmas with the man who took away his security and the other man who hit his father . Why would Lili want to spend her Christmas with people who had a melt down because she was named after her great grandmother? All these things i would like to know. Should they sit on a chair while wank tires to throw something else at their dad or put his finger in their mom face or would they prefer to watch while buttons calls up her mom and tell her to tell her tabloids buddies that Meghan. And her two children Made kate and Charlotte cry because lili dress was prettier than hers and when kate demanded that lili go change and Meghan told her to bite me Kate had a mini meltdown where she proceeded to tell Meghan than in England people don’t tell other people to bite them .
Yes . I can definitely see why lili and Archie and Meghan and Harry would rather go to the Windsors for hateful, racist frostiness than stay in Cali where they are loved up and spoiled rotten with hugs and kisses from Doria .
I would pay money for a ticket to see Meghan tell KKKate to “bite me”.
Hehe Meghan will never be in the same room with Kate again, thankfully, but I just love the idea that Kate orders Lili to change her dress and Meghan tells Kate, “Bite me.” Thank you for this image!
I remember the reports in the fawning tabloids about “Catherine the peace maker” and her being described as “ The glue that is holding the royal family together”
Hahaha what a big joke
Perhaps they prefer to have Christmas dinner with their children rather than dinner with the grown ups while the children have their christmas dinner with the servants.
So according to Emily Andrews, “All the royals will gather at Sandringham in December, and I’m told that all the cousins, such as Eugenie, Beatrice, Zara and Peter Phillips, all look forward to the fun”
How very interesting, considering it was just last week we were told all the RF Christmas plans were still up in the air because no one knows how well Charles will be. In fact, I thought that Andrew and Fergie hadn’t even received invitations yet, not to mention that the Wales’ are planning their own rogue party for the Middletons.
Ms. Andrews is trying to pad the royal Christmas with the “fun” people to make it look like the Sussexes are actually missing something. They’re not; it will be the same dreary mold fest that Charles hosts every year. The best he’ll get is Camilla’s raunchy son.
I highly doubt Harry is lonely now. I can’t think of a more lonely experience than growing up in that family.
Cannot believe the number of garbage stories here and in the UK…. The same mentality that idolizes Trump. What a mentally ill
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Harry would not give a dot about Christmas in England .
Why would he even be thinking about it , it’s still months away .
He has his own family and life in another country .and new traditions he is making .
It’s time the British media let this one sided game of abuse go .
Ha! First we get Mariah, then we get Harry being snubbed. Or Harry doing the snubbing. I’m never sure which it is. Deck the halls, y’all!
And this struck me, why would the Sussex kids be intrigued by their cousins? I’ve got a gazillion cousins I’ve never met–couldn’t even count them all, let alone name them–and I’m not the least bit ‘intrigued’ about meeting any of these folks. They were never part of my life.
Some media have this romantic idea of all the royal cousins together dancing and singing together near a royal Christmas tree. In reality the cousins probably don’t see each other the rest of the year. It sounds like some writers think it is still the victorian era.
Right @BeanieBean! We have cousins we don’t know at all. I have cousins on the West Coast that my siblings and me have never met or know of. It’s life. I guess, if you live in the royal compound, you all should be tight and missing each other. Which, is not, how real life works.
Once in a while, I think about my relatives I don’t know . Then, I realize, they’re not thinking about me either. I don’t feel snubbed by any lack of Christmas invites or they’re lack of interest into getting to know me and my siblings. We understand. They have their own reasons.
Christmas at Sandringham?/where ever? Doesn’t sound Christmassy.imo
Rota: Harry and Meghan left 5 years ago and are never coming back. You are stuck with Baldimort and Keener when Charles leaves this mortal coil. Smear the left behinds on the public dole and leave the people who left AND are working for a living alone.
Am I the only one who doesn’t think it’s important that Lili has blue eyes, and who was perplexed that Harry called her blue eyes ‘Spencer eyes’ when his father, paternal grandmother and paternal grandfather also all have blue eyes? They all look the same colour to me.
It seems fine to bring it up in passing (as the African American writer of Meghan’s The Cut piece did) but as a black person having read about the study where the internal conditioning of black children led to them to prefer white dolls to black ones who looked more like themselves the way this was seemingly brought to our attention by the parents made me a little uncomfortable. I actually try not to think about it, tbh.
Princess Lili is not Rihanna or Gary Dourdan and her eyes, in the context of the rest of her appearance, seem ….unexceptional?
At the age of 3 Charlotte’s eyes were also blue/green/some mix of the 2 so it’s not a trait I would become invested in, for a child that age…
I think one of Diana’s major features were her big, bright blue eyes. I believe Harry was talking about Lily’s resemblance to the Spencer side- her red hair, and all of Diana’s siblings had red hair. I accidentally came across a psychic reading (so I don’t remember who it was) who predicted that one of Harry’s children would inherit Diana’s large bright blue eyes. She predicted that they would have two children. She also predicted that Harry and Meghan would have a strong marriage and partnership and go out in the world and forge new paths of philanthropy. Now that I think of it, she was amazingly accurate. I wish I could remember this woman’s name.
As a mixed woman with a blonde, light-eyed, white-looking kid, I can confidently report that colorism is alive and well along the white folks. It’s unsettling to many when a mixed-Black child looks the way they think white children ideally should look.
Can you imagine the racist frenzy in the BRF and the British tabloid media over A&L’s appearance. It would be beyond gross. So glad H&M are keeping their kids out of the public eye.
I wonder how many of the cousins and nieces and nephews REALLY want to spend Christmas at Sandringham with the rest of the royal family? Frankly, with having to get on a scale publicly before and after eating, and having a rigid schedule where the kids eat separately and they give each other joke gifts, I guess I would want to be somewhere else, like in my own home watching some old Christmas movies.
Also, as Harry pointed out in his book, his father and aunt Anne had a horrible example for being caring, loving parents. His mother left them with the grandmother while she and Phillip went on a 6 month world tour. And when she got back, the queen shook Charles’ hand instead of publicly hugging him!! Six months is a lifetime to a young child, and no doubt Charles and Anne got used to not having real parents. No wonder at least Charles is such a cold father.
I had one of those for an ex-husband. His mother did not want children, but got pregnant just before husband went to war. He died in the war, and she moved in with her parents, and basically the grandmother raised my ex. I know for a fact that when I had kids, she did not know how to change a diaper or do any child care. No doubt, the only parent Charles had was a paid nanny, and that changes a person for a lifetime.
Charles is bad parent and bad husband to his first wife. He made that choice. The queen mever evicted any of her children. This is all on Charles. Charles never got a real sense of right and wrong.
I am sure that H&M are happy that so many people in the UK media take such an interest in their Christmas plans and deciding whether they will or will not travel to the UK.
The annual silly season has indeed started but the first stories were published at the beginning of September with the alleged invitation from Charles Spencer, not confirmed by him or H&M, there has been a steady diet of will they or won’t they ever since.
Nathan Kay has been a source of a number of stories produced in the Express as follows:-
October 6, headline “Prince Harry and Meghan Markle unlikely to join Spencer’s at Christmas” in which he stated “According to a well-placed source, Prince Harry is keen to spend the Christmas holidays in the United Kingdom’. (Some wording may sound familiar to a later story by Emily Andrews)
October 6 headline, “Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s row over Christmas holidays is latest sign of a rift” according to a source.
October 7 headline, “Meghan Markle could accompany Prince Harry to the UK for one key event” an insider reveals.
October 7, Kay writing for the Daily Record, headline “Meghan Markle ‘refuses to travel’ to UK for Christmas with Harry as rift comes to ahead”.
October 7, Kay writing for Aberdeen Live, headline “Prince Harry in row with Meghan Markle over Christmas as couple face big turning point”.
October 12, headline, “Prince Harry and Meghan Markle face brutal snub by royals at large upcoming event” (They haven’t been invited to Sandringham)
October 13, headline “The real reason Prince Harry and Meghan Markle won’t be coming to the UK for Christmas”. “A well-placed source told the Express Harry and Meghan are not going to spend Christmas with the Spencer’s ot the Royal family this year”.
Kay has promoted the idea that all is not well in H&M’s marriage over disagreements where to spend Christmas, where is the well-placed source located?
MikeB, I think the rota is telling us the state of WanK’s marriage. They tend to project what’s going on there onto H&M, because they can’t write about it in the UK.
Jeezuz. 🙄
Harry does not want to go back and made it clear. Some really really want the marriage to end and it’s been 7 years now of the divorce talk. Such media toxicity. Do they know the real story of the keens
Christmas in Southern California is absolutely glorious! We often go to the beach after an early feast and watch the sunset. I haven’t been to the UK, but I can’t imagine anything better than a golden California Christmas.