Robert Hardman has updated his terrible book, Charles III: New King. New Court. The Inside Story, with three new chapters and a new contract with the Daily Mail. Hardman is a Charles-loyalist more than anything, and all of his stories have the stink of Charles and Camilla’s narratives and outright lies. One of the big headlines from Hardman’s new chapters is that QEII planned on evicting the Duke and Duchess of Sussex from Frogmore Cottage herself. That is never-heard-before lie straight from King Charles. It was one of the most unpopular and cruelest decisions he made in recent years, to evict the Sussexes from their safe home in the UK. The Sussexes had a valid lease and they paid for everything in the renovation of Frogmore. QEII “gave” them Frogmore as a gift. Now Charles would have everyone believe that QEII would have taken it away from them to give to Prince Andrew. That’s not all – Hardman also has some convenient lies about how much “help” was offered to the Duchess of Sussex. More highlights from Hardman’s book:
QEII’s plan for Frogmore: However, it transpires that even [QEII] wanted to find the Duke another home. ‘Had she lived another year, he would have been out,’ says a former adviser to Elizabeth II firmly. ‘It was her plan to move him out, to end the lease for the Sussexes at Frogmore Cottage and to move Andrew in there. It was mainly a money thing, as she could see it was becoming unsustainable.’ Many of the late Queen’s staff were more than happy to make it happen, too, given the Duke’s conduct prior to his disastrous 2019 BBC Newsnight interview and the end of his career in public life. The Queen’s staff had wasted no time annexing his rooms inside Buckingham Palace.
Who will live in Royal Lodge if Andrew finally moves out? Since the Prince and Princess of Wales have shown no interest, for the time being, in moving into what would certainly be a suitable home the question has continued to be asked: who would live at Royal Lodge if the Duke was indeed prevailed upon to leave? An intriguing suggestion began to emerge during the course of this year: what about the King and Queen themselves? ‘The King loves his brother, of course,’ says one senior source. ‘But the Duke is living in an enormous house on his own and it used to be the Sovereign’s house. George VI and Queen Elizabeth never moved out of there.’ Aides are adamant that the King has no wish to take up residence there himself, Queen Camilla even less so. However, he is also determined to ensure that a house with a distinguished regal past is not left mired in uncertainty.
Harry’s visit in February to see his father: The King had been due to leave with the Queen for Sandringham, but delayed his departure so that he could see his son at Clarence House. It was not a long meeting – less than an hour – and the Palace released no details. Crucially, nor did anyone in the Sussex camp. Given the vast amount of awkward baggage to be unpacked following the Duke’s multiple swipes at the monarchy over the previous three years, this was not a moment for anything other than simple, urgent expressions of love and compassion….Within Buckingham Palace it is accepted that the King is open to some sort of rapprochement with the Sussexes – not least because he has barely seen his US-based grandchildren Archie and Lilibet, now aged five and three. And any sort of serious medical diagnosis tends to focus the mind on the passing of time.
Charles is so disciplined about the Sussexes: ‘He always had an iron discipline about not stirring things up with the Sussexes,’ says a former member of staff. ‘It can take a huge effort to do nothing when you’re being criticised.’
Harry stayed at a hotel during his visit in May: The King and his staff had been well aware of Prince Harry’s travel plans, however, to the extent that the monarch had even offered his son accommodation at Buckingham Palace. The Prince had chosen to stay at a hotel instead. ‘We were told it was for security reasons,’ says a member of the King’s staff. ‘I’m not sure you could get anywhere more secure than the Palace. Maybe he was worried about the mice.’ Sources close to the Sussexes explained that any Palace accommodation would, by definition, be inside a high-profile location and, without appropriate ‘security provision’, it would be safer to stay at an anonymous hotel.
They’re still swearing up & down that they offered help to Meghan: Yet some of those very same officials had tried to give both the Duke and Duchess extra support during their brief royal existence. ‘It was Clive [now Sir Clive Alderton, private secretary to the King] who said that if we could get this right for Harry, we’d be creating a blueprint for future younger sons for generations,’ recalls one staffer from those days. ‘And Clive said, ‘These two need more staff.’ And we seconded people from Clarence House, very expert people, to help them, but the Duchess wouldn’t trust them. Those two were offered considerable resource, and then later said that they had been offered no help. And that was completely wrong.’
“And Clive said, ‘These two need more staff.’ And we seconded people from Clarence House, very expert people, to help them, but the Duchess wouldn’t trust them.” I know this is false. Clarence House didn’t do jack sh-t to help Meghan in 2018-2019. They tossed Meghan to the Kensington Palace staff, who basically had nervous breakdowns whenever Meghan asked them to complete a simple task. It was so bad for Meghan that QEII “gave” Meghan one of her own trusted advisors, Christopher Geidt, who was once QEII’s private secretary. One of the complaints I had back in 2016-17 was that no one in Windsor-World seemed to understand that Harry needed his own dedicated office and staff. They kept Harry boxed in at Kensington Palace so that William and Kate could hide behind him and take credit for his work and his ideas. Besides, Charles never would have given staff to Harry and Meghan because his big concern was that he (Charles) couldn’t “afford” for Harry to get married, remember?
What else? At this point, I do believe that Harry was offered a room in the palace when he visited in May, and I also believe that the security situation was janky enough that Harry didn’t trust his father or anyone at the palace. As for all of this sh-t about Frogmore and QEII wanting to evict the Sussexes… lmao, again, this is Charles blaming his dead mother for one of his most unpopular decisions.
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As long as Harry and Meghan were working out of KP, wouldn’t it be up to Will (the higher up) who got placed on staff?
yes
@somebody … Which is how the Sussexes ended up sharing William’s ‘bestie’ Communications Officer Jason Knauf. I recall Harry requesting a Office with staff in Buckingham Palace (funny how he didn’t request one at Clarence House), but they refused stating that he already had a shared Office at Kensington Palace (too afraid to tread on Willy’s toes, I guess).
I believe Queen Elizabeth II was as surprised as everyone else when Charles cut off the Sandringham Summit agreed upon ‘one year’ financing in Canada with security’ for the Sussexes. I recall how, at the age of 95, she drove herself down to Frogmore Cottage alone to see Harry during his solo trip to England for the unveiling of Diana’s statue. Here’s the story in Marie Claire, recounted from The Mirror:
https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/a36850864/queen-driving-to-frogmore-cottage-prince-harry-return/
Oh, to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation. 🙂
BP refused b/c by that point, Geidt was out (he was forced out in 2017) for Edward Young. Young was and is Cluck’s man, even when Her Late Maj was still alive. Young is on RAVEC and got the orders from Cluck about the security shenanigans for the Sussexes.
Young, Knauf, and Simon Case were all courtiers conspiring against the Sussexes at the behest of their principals at both KP and BP. No one had their back but Her Late Maj and the few courtiers still loyal to her and the proper way of doing things.
The rest were cowboys.
As for Hardiman’s quote from the snarky courtier who said “maybe Harry objected to the mice,” it wasn’t the palace mice so much as the Palace Rats running the show. Good on Harry, I say, for continuing to trust his gut, because the people out to get him are in. those. palaces. and. include. his. own. family.
I can believe Chuck offered Harry a room at BP. But isn’t it under renovation? It’s not the generous offer they make.it seem.
No way would Charles have offered a residence unless to spy on harry.
@tessa – THIS.
Well, they came close to the real reason.
“Maybe he was worried about the mice.”
No, he was worried about the rats who’d get a few extra bucks by telling a tabloid all the juicy gossip, especially when he was coming and going.
The rats! You got it @harpervalleypta.
Yep, you can be sure the offered room was bugged for sound and video. Palace staff would have the paps on speed dial every time H walked out the door to let them know the destination and the planned route.
Nope! The BM/BRF are upset that they don’t know where Harry has stayed during his trips to England. The RR’s would be staked out at everywhere possible-that they know. Why would Harry stay at BP or even Clarence House? Doesn’t sound comfy or safe for him. At all.
I love how the press insist on crowing that “Harry was snubbed” by the palaces only for it to turn on them when Harry’s actually doing the snubbing. He stays in secure hotels, he stays with LOVING relatives on the Althorp estate.
Neither the press nor the palaces can get to him and they’re all salty af about it.
The reason the press didn’t report on what was said in that meeting with Chuck was because KP wasn’t told anything about it and Cams was also likely kept out of the loop on it – so yeah C3 can stop the leaking when he wants to.
I also believe it’s because Harry didn’t give Charles the answer he was looking for in that meeting.
I read something a while ago, that Harry was actually summoned home in an initial panic over Charles’s cancer diagnosis and the meeting was more about him signing paperwork to have him relinquish being a counsellor of state. Apparently Beatrice was pictured going into Clarence House at the same time,presumably to sign the paperwork to supersede Harry.
That’s the reason why the meeting was so short and Harry shipped out straight after!
If Harry truly relinquished his position as counsellor of state BP would have announced it and informed Parliament.
@Roseberry: The signing paperwork thing was just speculation. Harry can sign paperwork from Montecito. Plus there wouldn’t be anything for him to sign because he’s the spare. Harry’s still a counselor of State only Parliament can take away that title and the Palace asked Parliament to add Edward an Anne rather than remove Harry.
@Amy Bee: true, Harry can DocuSign from anywhere; but remember, these folks are so technologically behind the times they could only print out one of the–five, was it?–options for the Sussexes at that big Balmoral meeting (that excluded Meghan). Oops, the printer didn’t work. No idea how to send a document electronically; none whatsoever.
Beatrice is already a COS in her own right according to how eligibility has originally been defined. So are Camilla, Will, Harry and Andrew (monarch’s spouse and next four in the line of succession). So no reason she’d be signing anything to supercede Harry. A recent stipulation was proposed that only working royals would be appointed COS. That’s why Anne and Edward were added a couple of years ago, so in actual practice Harry, Andrew, and Beatrice could be skipped.
Chucky trying to pass the buck to Betty, how low do you have to sink to blame your terminally ill mother for your screwups.
The same Betty that had a burner phone to talk to Harry, and had him visited without telling her handlers.
Yeah, exactly. The way Hardman spews this particular lie clearly shows that it was QE-II’s Chuck-selected staffers who would have tried and failed to convince her to kick H&M out of Frogmore Cottage. The Queen would have understood that it was Chuck’s own desire! Whether or not she would have ultimately been able to put her foot down and refuse to let Chuck have his way is debatable, since she was becoming increasingly ill.
Suffice to say that just as QE-II wanted and ensured that H&M were at the Jubbly with solid security and their own procession down St. Patrick’s Cathedral, she clearly wanted them to retain her gift of Frogmore Cottage for family visits to the U.K., if the choice was left to her.
Here we go with the deflection!! They have been called slum lords and now they must deflect and try to drum up some more Meg hate.
Along with blaming things on a dead woman who was a good face of the monarchy and the current king’s mother. So low.
Clive Alderton, the ‘Wasp’ per Harry’s SPARE. I’m sure, /s, he really wanted to help. As if, Harry didn’t know how CA operated. Rewriting history again. The BM will be writing stories about how the USA regrets their decision for Independence. /s
Harry hasn’t trusted most of these people for a long time. Sure, blame Meghan, because we’ve always said Harry is dumb.lol NATO has a different opinion.
Didn’t they try to tell us that Anne suggested they take Fromgmore back? Seems she didn’t appreciate talking the blame so now they’re shifting to Elizabeth. Charles is the weakest person ever.
Oh to be a fly on the wall when Anne chewed out Chuckie for that stunt. LOL. Notice she had the “horse incident” not long after…
Meghan not only intelligent but also has excellent instincts when it came to these backstabbing racists people.
Exactly. Even if her and Harry were offered extra staffers, she’d be right not to trust them. KP staff lied to the press whenever they could
I tend to believe that it was Harry who turned down the offer of help from his father’s office. Meghan had only been there a short time while Harry had a whole lifetime to see how his father’s office worked and how often he was thrown under the bus and he wanted no part of any of that.
As a youth Hazza had no power to push back against the likes of Boland the Bollard, who was actively working with Fred & Gladys to sabotage Fred’s kids; as an adult Hazza, mercifully, did find his own voice and lost his fear of using it.
Who could blame her for not trusting Palace staff after what she experienced at KP? I keep believing we don’t know half of what the staff did to her and the reason Jason Knauf accused her bullying was because he was afraid she would talk about how she was ill-treated by staff at KP in the Oprah interview.
Yeah, after surviving JK the snake, I wouldn’t trust any official “royal” advisors either, whether they came from William or Charles. It’s the likely the same reason why Harry knows better than to stay in a royal property while he’s in the UK.
Any staff they “gave” them was no doubt there to report back to chuckles and his horsy side-piece. Any didn’t they have that super racist old lady be an advisor to Meghan, the one who needs to ask every POC where they are from??
As I said on the other post I don’t believe any of this. Plus Charles’ discipline pertains to Meghan not Harry. He doesn’t brief against her anymore because he knows that if did Meghan would respond publicly like she did to that story that came out just before the coronation.
They ALL fear her receipts, even as they continue to try to mock and discredit her to the world.
One day she’s gonna paint her nails red and start tearing those mfers a new one with them.
I hope I have enough popcorn that day.
I don’t think they were offered help from Clarence House, or if they were, it was too late so Meghan had good reason to distrust all of them. We know that the Sussexes were moved to Buckingham Palace in the spring of 2019 but that was also too late IMO.
I do agree with the quote about how if they got it right with Harry, it could be a blueprint for future generations. But instead they got it very very wrong.
Mistake number one was Charles letting William create his own press group. He should have kept them all under his office. That way once he was king they would all be under BP. With three separate press places it creates chaos and in particular let William go rogue.
Charles didn’t work against his mother when she was Queen and so they stupidly thought William would respect rank as well.
That said when Harry and Meghan moved their press to the BP umbrella it did seem to work a bit better. Jason Knauf was not there to sabotage things directly.
So while I see that as a mistake too, I’m betting Charles just wanted to put space between him and William. The two of them under one umbrella must’ve been a mess.
The Queen, when Geidt was there, did try to consolidate the offices of KP and BP. It was not a decision that went down well with KP and I remember reading that William’s staff would just come into the BP office, stick a coat on a chair and then leave for the entire day. That plan did not work because Charles continued to pay for all of the then Cambridges’ staff. If he had just put his foot down and said I’m not going to pay for staff at KP the problem might have been, if not resolved, ameliorated.
Charles *did* work against his mother when she was Queen. Even when Diana was alive. There was the biography denigrating his parents, there was the Black Spider Memos, the silent coup of 2017 where he successfully replaced Queen’s secretary, Sir Christopher Geidt, with Charles’ own sycophantic, bottom feeder lackey, Edward Young. Young not only was instrumental in sabotaging the Sussexes and driving them out of the UK, he was spying on the Queen, *for Charles*.
Once Young was installed, that was when all hell broke loose with the palace comms. It started before Harry even began dating Meghan, but them getting together kicked all of Charles’ and William’s malevolence into a whole other gear. Which hasn’t stopped. Charles has been using these courtiers to sabotage the Sussexes and also the Waleses, even as he uses both the courtiers and his dead mother for cover.
Charles is a sociopath (at minimum), but also a craven coward with the worst instincts imaginable, in addition to being a horrible judge of character.
Quite possibly the worst monarch England has seen since before the English Civil War.
“Offering help” is meaningless when the help being offered isn’t what you need.
Or if the “help” is just another way for Charles to spy on them, collect stories about them to leak to the press, and ultimately try to control them.
Exactly! They help she needed was to be defended by the RF, to stop the briefings and the spying and the leaks, to help when she was having mental health issues. To offer a couple more staffers (if that even happened) was useless.
Exactly! When the help you need isn’t ‘staff’, but current staff or palaces putting out statements that the BM stories aren’t true, wtf kind of help is that. They hung Meghan out in the cold. A@@holes. She was the problem. /s KP & CH had their jealousy issues. QE2 did not.
Charles & Co. are sad sorry f*cks with this bs.
My understanding, Christopher Geidt and Harry/Meghan had a good relationship. That was turned into something else. imo The relationship with the Wasp(Adderton), the Bee(Edward Young, and the Fly(Simon Case) had more to do with Harry’s disappointments/lies with their lies and lack of help towards Meghan. I remember in SPARE when H&M asked for help and the buzzards pretended they didn’t know a thing.
@Digital: Exactly this!!!. Just knew there would be some crap about H&M to feed the trolls and derangers and distract from this story. But fools will be fools, you can’t cure stupid.
So willy the slumlord aka the prince of slums, is going to cure homelessness! And in 5 years no less! While he’s contributing to the creation of the problem himself. What a load of sh* t.
This is the global statesman y’all!!
My response was meant for @ Susan’s comment.
Meghan and Harry had a very successful tour of Australia and Oceania and as they themselves have said, this tweaked Charles’s jealousy. From that moment, they were aware that KC was in a snit and not acting in their best interests. It took them a bit linger to realize that WanK and staff were also acting against them. Since C&C were obvious about it, I can imagine that there was a distinct lack of trust.
Tiara gate and cry gate both happened really quickly after they returned from the tour. Cry gate is 100% kate and William sabotaging Meghan. There is no way Harry seriously thought William was innocent once cry gate happened.
Nic929, Thanks for reminding me. I stand corrected: absolutely a group effort.
“Maybe he was worried about the mice”………..the palace has mice?
I laughed, too – but BP is quite famously a pile that the royals barely keep up, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they had all kinds of issues! I think the mention of mice was meant as a dismissive joke to make Harry look weak or silly, but with the revelations today about the shocking state of the Duchy properties, mice might be the least of the royals’ worries!
If I had Harry’s money, I’d stay in a nice hotel, too! No mice AND fewer spies.
The elite London hotels very much know how to keep their VIP guests safe and private. The long term staffers are also famously discreet because they would like repeat business/good word of mouth. Big contrast with BP and KP both leaking like sieves.
@Berkeleyfarm too right! London hotels are watertight and never leak; meanwhile the “corridors of power” have so many rat holes in the baseboards it’s no wonder BP required renovation – you let that many rat spies in, the building becomes structurally unsound… much like the entire institution monarchy at the moment.
And that’s not Her Late Maj’s legacy, the structurally unsound monarchy – the blame for that is entirely Fred & Gladys’. Cluck’s “shadow regency” kicked off in 2017 with the removal of Geidt and he’s been taking a sledgehammer to the monarchy ever since.
I would think Prince Harry would not divulge his itinerary to BP and they wanted it in exchange for a room. He would have known the couriers would have sold him out to the media and his security would have been useless.
The sham is only still believable to the bots and trolls and little grannies reading the rags.
Once again, the world has eyes and we all saw Meghan be thrown to the wolves and unsupported. This revision is just not believable.
Once again, Charles’s version of events is belated, revisionist and decidedly UNbelievable. They are basically saying, “Who are you going to believe, us or your own ‘lying’ eyes?”
Of course promoting the new chapters of this book was coincidental to the big reveal about the BRF and their financial shenanigans so this story isn’t really about deflecting. Now tomorrow though, that will be interesting. Will the Daily Mail and the other tabs keep trying to drum up stories about Meghan (mostly stories at least 5 years old and counting) or will they realize, once and for all, that they have bigger fish to fry and call it a day with the endless hounding of people who don’t even live in the UK anymore and, more importantly, are not being supported by the British taxpayer.
Where was Camilla during the Christmas church walk photo above? Could she not risk a sprinkle of holy water falling on her for “obvious reasons”? If so, I get it, Camilla. Stay away from church especially around Christmas and do watch out for falling houses when you’re wearing your black and white striped socks (“What a world, what a world”).
“Since the Prince and Princess of Wales have shown no interest, for the time being, in moving into what would certainly be a suitable home the question has continued to be asked: who would live at Royal Lodge …… ”
” (F)or the time being” and “suitable home” tells me exactly ” who would live at Royal lodge.”. Or, at least, who wants it now and is pushing for Andrew’s eviction.
After the blowback to William’s ‘I’m ending homelessness; wait, no, I’m preventing homelessness; wait, wait, I’ve heard enough about homelessness & here’s how you all can fix it’ documentary + the recent revelations from Channel 4, why on earth would they publicly muse on Royal Lodge being a ‘suitable home’ for the Wales??? Talk about tone deaf.
Everything is Harry and Meghan’s fault- regular as clockwork. William’s documentary was apparently a ratings disaster and there was an expose of the monarch and his heir’s money sources, so right on cue to deflect. Of course, the expose means that Queen Elizabeth II had the same sources of income as did Charles as Duke of Cornwall and Prince of Wales. So glad they continue pointing out Harry was evicted from a property conferred by his grandmother. How can anyone think making someone “homeless” when you have hundreds of properties where you fleece your tenants make you look good. These rats never mention that Harry and Meghan paid millions to renovate a royal property and had a paid up lease.
Well, this gets interesting on a global perspective. King Snubby just threw QE2 under the bus. Wow, talk about looking like a whining baby!
Funnily enough before looking at this story on here I commented on the DM web site that I didn’t believe the late Queen chose to throw them out although I did point out that she might have been bullied into doing it by Charles or William. The Late Queen wanted them to continue to get full protection and that was ended.
There is no way in HELL that QEII would have evicted her favorite son to put him in a smaller residence. Also there is no way in hell that she would have favored Charles over Andrew lol.
The longer H&M are away from the Firm, the better for them.
They are 5 years and 2 kids out and living very well. Good for them.
It’s odd that Meghan would not be expected to hire her own staff. That is how it normally works out in the world.