This is apparently the first election since 2004 where the Republican won the popular vote. What’s so weird about that is Donald Trump will likely win the popular vote having won two-million-plus fewer votes than he won in 2020. It’s also weird that Kamala Harris apparently lost fourteen-million-plus votes from Joe Biden’s win in 2020. None of the national vote counts make any sense to me, nor do the trendlines in certain states, like North Carolina. This was supposed to be another historic-turnout election, with fifty-million plus Americans voting early, etc. I wish Kamala Harris had an appetite to demand a national recount. But she conceded mid-day on Wednesday, and she addressed supporters at Howard University in the late afternoon. Note: I am not watching this, and I never watched more than a few minutes of Hillary Clinton’s concession speech in 2016. It’s too painful for me, but if you want to watch it, here you go:
She looks so tired and sad. She looked like she hadn’t slept at all and she had been crying most of the day. I maintain that the American people let her down. I feel the same way about Hillary Clinton and even Joe Biden. Hillary would have been an amazing president who worked hard for the country. President Biden wrested control of the country from a fascist lunatic and delivered a remarkable economic prosperity for the country, yet Trump supporters are still saying that Democrats lost because of “the economy.” Anyway, all of this is bullsh-t. I hope Kamala takes her bag of Doritos, goes home to California and tells everyone to f–k off forever. In 2016, it felt like we were bravely forming a resistance to hold Trump to account. 2024 is different – there will be no resistance, and Kamala, Hillary, Joe and Barack are not coming to save anyone. No one is being saved because the majority of the electorate signed up for this. Trump even said this would be the last election, and he would fix it so people never have to vote again. That’s what people wanted, so here they go.
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She has served her country for most of her adult life and she deserved respect and a chance to lead us into the future as safely as possible.
Boy did white folks show themselves and out did themselves. Whew. What a disgusting country of racist.
And men. Men showed not only their extreme misogyny, but also misogynoir. Men in the country HATE women.
Can anyone demand a recount even though she conceded? The numbers just do not make sense.
That’s EXACTLY how I feel too! The numbers make no sense, and I feel like a hardcore conspiracy theorist for suggesting that Musk/Russia somehow skewed the results. I know I live in a liberal bubble but there was just way too excitement and momentum for the Harris/Walz campaign for the results to make sense. People also HATED Cruz, Boebert, etc and somehow everyone that’s pro-Trump got elected, we got none of the swing states? This feels so shady, and I really hope the FBI is silently investigating this bc I can “live” with him willing the electoral votes but the popular vote too?!?
@Lynaday – I feel the same. While I was never going to be okay, in any way shape or form, with trump winning I woulda taken some comfort in knowing it was just the EC that f*cked us again. But to have won the popular vote!?! That’s straight horrifying.
I’m still holding out hope that some shenanigans will be discovered. I find it very difficult to believe that tRump won.
Questions should be asked about the record turnout stories when overall numbers were that low. I can’t believe 14 million JB voters sat on their hands, not given the stakes. The rallies were epic, the ground game was incredible. Something don’t smell right to me.
Agree with your comment and all the others that math isn’t mathing. The first thing I said was this isn’t right, something isn’t right.
I used to wake up to visions of Harris/Walz and singing Freedom, today I woke up sweaty, heart racing and visions of cutting social security and medicare.
Get outside, spend time with your loved ones, volunteer, donate to causes when you can.
God Bless America
I can’t watch just yet, either. I am also feeling FAFO about the electorate. Prison stocks shot up on the market yesterday after his win, cause he’s going to start rounding people up, and I was feeling a little mean about it. I am relatively safe, being white and more caretaker, less potential incubator, age wise.
America voted for this. I am still in mourning. I will eventually care what horrible suffering he will inflict on Americans, but it might be awhile.
I keep telling myself that if he doesn’t start fulfilling these promises soon, the base will turn on him by midterms. It really is FAFO time for the American people.
@Happyoften: same here. Right now I’m too depressed to even care.
“I am relatively safe, being white and more caretaker, less potential incubator, age wise.”
Same and I’m so sad that we will never see Kamala’s plan to expand Medicare to provide home care. My parents are approaching their 80s and this was such a comfort to me.
I will say that in my mostly blue town in a very blue state I was shocked at how small a number of people were voting when I went late morning and my husband went early evening. We had early voting here but it still seemed shockingly low. There were long lines in 2020. It was funny to see that even the local republicans didn’t have a T’ump sign up outside the polling place along with the local signs but it also just seemed very muted in general. I don’t know if people checked out or what happened but that was when I started to feel very nervous.
As a Black woman, it has become clear that I need to be very stingy with my energy and effort. I’m spending today researching organizations that specifically support and uplift Black women and Black women only. Don’t look to me when Project 2025 kicks off. Solidarity is dead.
Unfortunately, this is also where where I am at as a black woman. It has taken a lot to get me to this mentality, but messaged finally received America. My energy and my time is precious. I will spend it where it will be best served and appreciated.
As a Black woman I no longer have energy for anything but myself, my family and my chosen family. I will be working to protect myself and mine and maybe even build a community of other Black women. That’s it for me. I divest.
This is exactly where I am. Miss me with the “not all white women” because 53% voted for him. I am being selfish from this point on. Black women have tried to save every one and it’s clear this country hates us. From this point on everyone is on their own.
53% is a sliver of a majority. Still disgraceful, but it doesn’t completely negate the “not all white women” qualifier.
Read “They Were Her Property”. White women have been benefitting from and complicit in the racism and sociopathic terrorism in this nation since its inception.
Agreed. Energy is precious. The results of this election sent a message loud and clear.
As a white woman, I fully support you all in choosing to direct your energies to you and yours.
You don’t need my support in that, of course, but you have it. I don’t blame you one bit.
This election sealed my disgust for my fellow white women forever. I hope they enjoy their dwindling privilege, as it’s taken from them by the men for whom they voted.
Does anyone wonder if Bezos heard something beforehand that made him so adamant about holding back his Kamala endorsement. As if he was sure that Trump will win
My husband is certain that Bezos knew something beforehand.
The polling consistently showed it could either and the right wing usually underperform in polls because people are embarrassed about voting for them.
Incumbents have been also losing around the world in elections this year because of inflation.
You didn’t need to have inside information to know that there was a very good chance Trump was going to win.
Am I the only one that thinks something is very very wrong? The numbers aren’t adding up, Trump was way too confident heading into the final days, and his comments that he was making alluding to some sort of plan… Add to that the large number of people who can’t track their ballot or verify that it was counted.. also to add how quickly everything was done and counted on election night? Something seems very wrong. Am I delusional or grasping at straws here?
Nope—I definitely think that Biden, as the sitting President, should have demanded a hand recount of each and every ballot, tbh. See this is the problem with the liberal side—we fold over too easily in appeasing authoritarian, because we don’t want to cause any problems and headaches and want to follow the rules! NO! When the stakes are this high, stir some s**t up, I say! It should have been rechecked, tbh!
Yes, I think you are grasping at straws here. The polls didn’t look hopeful compared to 2020 and 2016, this is not surprising. Besides, a lot of Western democracies have seen a rise of far-right parties over the last 10/15 years.
The Polymarket “whale” who made $48 mill on the election said he hired his own pollster who asked instead “who is your neighbor voting for” in swing states and the answer was much more likely to be Trump.
Yeah I get the desire to doubt the results because polls made it seem like they were neck-in-neck and the results are truly shocking but I think this is a case of Occam’s razor, sadly: Americans are truly THIS terrible.
I’ve been so upset over NC not coming through. I went on the Raleigh Subreddit last night and there’s a thread with someone asking about the Trump/Stein/Mo Green voters because they too couldn’t believe it. Looks like some of those voters went that way thanks to their Dem relatives who tried really hard to convince them to vote straight blue but could only get them to vote blue for the non-presidential race. We probably only have the blue sweep that we do because these people put in the time. MAGA is just such a cult that voters are so brainwashed that they can’t even consider voting against dear leader even when deciding that voting for the rest of the Rs on the ticket is bad for them. Combine that with the fact that Roy Cooper pretty popular here + Mark Robinson turned a lot of religious voters off with his scandals (and who knows how many of those racists were ever gonna actually vote for him in the first place).
Here’s the thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/raleigh/comments/1gkym9s/the_silver_lining/
The discrepancies in PA and WI are more concerning for me. Didn’t they get caught at least once trying to do voter fraud using the Amish community?
I can’t bring myself to watch the whole speech either. Just the clips I saw made me cry. Hillary had millions of Democrats disappear on her too. Gee, what do these two candidates have in common that causes voters to disappear? 🤔
A few days ago I watched a clip of Kamala being hugged by an elderly Black lady she obviously knew at a campaign stop. The woman held her for a long time. When she pulled away she scolded her, “You’ve lost weight. Don’t they feed you?” Kamala laughed it off, “They’re working me to the bone. I’ll put on some pounds when this is over.” It’s an understatement to say she left it all out on the field. 😭
Last time I was fired up ready to fight. This time I am just done. I am in New York so I am relatively safe but I plan on keeping my mouth shut and my head down for the next four years. I will keep my loved ones safe but I am done with everything else.
You want to watch your daughters, sisters and wives die of preventable reproductive issues? Not my problem.
You want to watch your home wash away from hurricanes because you don’t believe in climate change? Not my problem.
You want to watch your elderly relatives die of covid because you don’t believe in vaccines? Not my problem.
Latin men – you want to watch your relatives be deported because you couldn’t vote for a woman? Not my problem.
Black men – you want to watch all of your history being erased because you couldn’t vote for a woman? Not my problem.
You want to blow the tops of your mountains and pollute your drinking water and watch your children die of childhood cancers because you don’t like clean energy? Not my problem.
Maybe we let them hit rock bottom and then they finally stop voting these idiots in. Until then give them what they want.
p.s. sorry so long! Stay safe everyone!
You forgot white women who are the worst offenders. Their daughters will suffer and die under Trump abortion bans.
Abortion bans, birth control bans…it’s coming
The Missouri DA filed a lawsuit to reinstate FDA restrictions on the abortion pills because…..ready for this?
Lower teenage birth rates are hurting Missouri.
I know everyone is going to say, “That’s what they want you to do—give up!” But I have to say, at least today, I 100% agree with your sentiment. Screw them all.
Clearly, some of us are in “burn it all down” mode. At least, for now.
This is perfectly stated. I live in MA and feel exactly the same way 100%.
That’s precisely how I feel too! I fought so hard, wrote postcards, text banked, etc, and I just feel defeated. I’m in NYC, so I’ll likely be protected and fine. I hope all the fucking morons who voted for him in Florida live to see the consequences of climate change on the value of their properties, Boomers who are going to have their social security gutted, the women who voted for the price of bread over their daughter’s rights have to raise grandkids they didn’t want, etc. I am so done, and hope his supporters get all they have coming for them bc they don’t deserve anything less.
Why are you blaming black men? They voted for her. Blame white women if you want to blame someone. Don’t use black men as your scapegoat.
Many swang to Trump. Watch The Guardian interviews and check the analysis.
@Nevca — and Michel — a small percent (22%) of a very small number (5%) is not what “swang” this country to Trump.
Alongside this scapegoating of Black men, do you have any thoughts on the millions of white women and men who voted — or what they thought they were voting for? I will look beyond the data that I’ve seen already, but if there are states that would have shifted the Electoral College votes from Trump to Harris — if the relatively small numbers of Black male voters who voted for Trump had shifted to Harris, I’d appreciate specific links.
Again, here’s what I’ve been using for data as I vent.
https://thegrio.com/2024/11/06/exit-polls-show-majority-of-black-men-and-women-voted-for-kamala-harris/
Agree that black men are not the problem and the data supports that. I thought OP covered white women with the “You want to watch your daughters, sisters and wives die of preventable reproductive issues? Not my problem” comment but maybe they need to be more specific.
And all these comments just reinforce how easy it is to be a white man. The bar is so fucking low that we don’t even QUESTION why they reliably vote Rethug. We just assume that they will.
But none of that absolves us (WW) of our responsibility in this outcome.
Regarding the election…the MATH AIN’T MATHING…and that’s ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT! But it dosen’t matter…because WAY TOO MANY FOLKS didn’t & don’t give A fuck…ABOUT EVEN THEMSELVES…so hey…I got a plan to bunker down…EVEN IF THEY DECIMATE SSDI…which is my sole source of income…I got a plan & a Tribe….and man’s inhumanity to man is will NEVA be a surprise to me…folks think paying $5.00 for eggs is bad THIS YEAR? Wait until NEXT YEAR! And like others…I have disengaged from MSM news on tv…I found my folks on YouTube who give me what I need from a geopolitical stance…based on FACTS…regarding the economy…I’ve lived through Reagan/Bush/Bush/POS Trump…so I ALREADY KNOW WHATS GONNA HAPPEN THERE! The ONLY difference is that I won’t get laid off again…since I can no longer work🤬
I turned off the news all day (usually, I watch MSNBC from 7am to 7pm all day long since I work from home) but turned it on to watch her speech. I just started bawling. I can’t tell you how upset and sad I am.
America hates women and they especially hate Black women. I say this as a Black woman. I cried during her concession. I am a government employee and I fear for my job. I have to have faith that I will be okay. But yah f*ck you America. That we are not a “racist” nation is total BS. I will pick myself up, dust my self off, and start all over again. I have a life to live and I’m not going anywhere. The resistance continues.
I can’t watch it. Last night I couldn’t sleep and every time I tried to close my eyes I just kept seeing Kamala and Tim walz’s faces and just feeling profound sadness.
I’m telling you guys, I’m not a nutter, but that map turned red in a way I’ve never seen before.
I hate to be the person who sounds like an obnoxious know-it-all jerk, however, I saw this coming from a mile away. I desperately wanted to be wrong and I desperately want America to show some damn improvement. Harris and Walz would have been AMAZING in the White House.
Secondly, I’ve been listening and observing people since 2020 in my jobs of rideshare driver, US Census worker, and election worker. People open up to me and voluntarily talk about their lives and even their political beliefs. And some people (especially young white Republican frat boys talk openly within my hearing but rarely to me and yes, they are the literal worst riders that get in my car. I loathe them.)
That being said, here is what I saw that made me see a clear path for Trump’s re-election:
Young men of all races (but especially white and Latino) are being brainwashed by right wing assholes like Rogan, Peterson, Tate, Cardone, and so many more misogynistic, racist male influencers. It is an epidemic. I mean that. The influence of the Republican party, Russian paid influencers, and right wing assholes is horrifying.
Here in Texas we have a severe problem with racism between Latinos and Black communities. White supremacy has convinced so many Latinos, both American and immigrants, that they are “the good ones” and not like “the others” (others means Black people). It’s classic brainwashing and so many Latinos fall for because they don’t want to go through the racist hardship their immigrant parents/grandparents went through. It’s a case of if you can’t beat’em then join’em.
In addition to being a horrible situation, number 2 up there causes many in our Latino community to think they are safe from Trump/GOP. They genuinely believe they and their family won’t be affected because they are “the good ones”. They don’t believe Trump/GOP would harm them because they voted for him!
So many people in our Latino communities genuinely like Trump because “he tells it like it is!” even though the man can’t not lie about anything. His lying is literally pathological. But “he’s a business owner like me!” and “his wife is an immigrant!” and “he’s hilarious, he’ll shake up the swamp!” They genuinely love this man. They made so much effort to help put him in office.
I fully blame white supremacy for the Latino community being brainwashed. However, they are about to face the truth and it will be a painful lesson.
White male “liberals”…where do I begin? They worship Bernie (ugh). They resent women. They are racists. They are homophobic. Wait, why am I calling them “liberals”? BECAUSE ALL THEY WANT IS TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA. So they think they’re liberal because they want pot legalized and they love calling people fascists. But when you listen to them they are just closet Republicans.
Those white male “liberals” will not vote for a woman, especially Kamala Harris. Starting in 2020 primaries I heard from so many “liberals” (all white, both male and female, straight and gay) that they “didn’t know about Kamala” and “there’s something off about her” and “I really like Elizabeth Warren!” Those same people “held their nose and voted for Hillary Clinton” but just can’t see voting for Kamala. (it’s racism. plain and simple.) They aren’t voting for a woman president anytime soon and definitely not for a BIPOC woman president.
I’ve been hearing this stuff multiple times weekly for 4 years. Weekly.
I knew Trump’s cult was much more than the loudmouths who go to his rallies. I watched, year after year, as very nice, quiet white people voted for him and the GOP straight ticket in every. damn. election. They don’t miss elections. Ever.
Lastly, so many people, who I suspect wanted to vote for Harris, showed up to vote and they couldn’t because they weren’t registered to vote. We successfully issued 6135 ballots at our election site (both early and on election day) and every third voter was disqualified from voting. We’re talking hundreds(thousands?) of people. It was heartbreaking and demoralizing and we shed quite a few tears over that.
So honestly, I’m surprised the turn out for Harris/Walz was as high as it is. I hate how it turned out. I prayed I was wrong. And now I’m catching my breath and next week will get back on the election activism train.
I’m sorry this was so long. Take care of yourselves, Bitchies. And to my fellow red staters who are fighting so hard to make progress there I see you and raise a bbq sandwich and a glass of ice cold tea to you!
“2024 is different – there will be no resistance…”
— There will DEFINITELY be a resistance—and I’m in it.