Dwayne Johnson, Chris Evans and Lucy Liu have been hustling their film Red One in recent weeks. Given the cast, I thought this was some kind of standard espionage/action film, but no – it’s a Christmas movie. The Rock, who produced the film, plays “the North Pole’s Head of Security” and he teams up with a bounty hunter, played by Chris Evans, and they have to save Christmas after Santa is kidnapped. Sounds terrifically stupid, right? What’s hilarious is that Johnson has been giving some very out-of-touch interviews about the film, like when he claimed that watching Christopher Nolan’s Oppenheimer on IMAX convinced him that Red One should also be an IMAX film: “I watch ‘Oppenheimer.’ It was amazing, but I was thinking: ‘Holy sh-t. “Red One” on this screen and with this technology could be game over.’ I remember texting [director Jake Kasdan] a picture of my bare chest and a picture of the screen and we realized how cool [Imax] would be.” Which explains how Red One’s production budget bloated to $250 million, I guess. Well, funny story. Red One might be one of the biggest bombs of the year?
“Treat them the same way you treat us! How dare you?!” are some of the screams I’ve been getting from traditional major studios when it comes to the chilly box office performance of the Dwayne Johnson and Chris Evans $200M Christmas action movie Red One. (“No! It’s $250M!” exclaims one ex-Amazon-er with knowledge). And at an opening of $30M, after a $10.9M Friday, we can’t ignore the fact that we’ve seen better from The Rock, as far as his solo non-Fast & Furious projects go.
And, damn, if this isn’t a high budget. That’s the biggest problem here with Red One overall. However, that’s what you get when you do business with the industrial complex that is the Rock. The gossip can cry tardiness, entourages, water bottles, schedules, studio execs asleep at the wheel and an exorbitant amount of jelly beans in Rock’s trailer — it doesn’t matter. Capisce? This is what it costs to get into business with Johnson, and the only ones who are bold enough to invest in this endeavor are streamers like Netflix with Red Notice and Amazon MGM Studios here with Red One. The Rock has yet to scale down the budget of one of his tentpoles.
First, to placate the irate, traditional model studio brass who want to put Red One side-by-side with the performance of Joker: Folie a Deux, let’s recognize the fact here that this opening for Red One is on par with the lower end of Johnson’s original IP, one of those examples being Skyscraper ($130M production cost yielding $24.9M domestic opening, $68.4M domestic final, worldwide was $304.8M booted by $98M+ from China). There’s an argument to be made that the movie in its execution is more like a lightweight Lethal Weapon for audiences than a family film, which is why we’re not seeing a rush from the latter audience.
In the same breath, Red One is arguably the best opening for a movie hatched by a streamer, besting Apple’s Killers of the Flower Moon ($23.2M) and it’s in the vicinity of where Christmas live-action movies open. Don’t knock the Rock’s star power: He’s arguably the first Hollywood star to have two No. 1 openings in a given month from two different films; the expectation is that Disney’s Moana 2 will soar to a $135M 5-day over Thanksgiving.
Deadline’s argument seems to be that The Rock’s dumbest and worst movies usually break even at the end of the day, or maybe even make the studio a little money. But it looks like Red One won’t even be able to limp along until it breaks even. While MGM-Amazon wants to keep Red One in theaters throughout the Christmas season, I doubt they’ll be able to? Not with Gladiator II and Wicked taking up so much space in the coming weeks/months, not to mention all of the awards-bait movies which will start to get wide or limited releases. All in all, it looks like Red One is going to lose a lot of money. Not as much as Joker 2 (lmao) but a lot of money.
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When I saw the trailer for this in the theaters, it looked so spectacularly stupid that I legitimately thought it was a parody trailer. I kept waiting for one of the actors to break character and remind me to silence my phone before the movie started. I absolutely cannot believe this movie was made.
Damn I feel for Chris evans, i was looking forward to watching him in anything outside of Marvel
It was silly but I enjoyed it, the movie he did with Ana de Armas Ghosted on Apple TV where Ana plays some kind of assassin/espionage person. Chris plays a regular Average Joe who works at a farmer’s market. He accidentally stumbles into her world and gets involved with Ana’s character’s high action life. The reviews weren’t great but it was entertaining! Great plane movie.
Hard to even tell what Deadline is saying—their article is word salad.
I thought it was just lack of coffee at first. That deadline article was poorly written.
Thank you! I thought it was just me. I couldn’t make head nor tail of their article.
Yeah, it is ALL over the place. Trying to be scathing-adjacent (ish?) but still not p*ss anybody off directly. So weird.
I saw the previews for this movie and assumed things were going poorly for Chris Evans, why would he be in this stupid thing? As for The Rock, clearly people aren’t interested in watching his same tired routine
He’s my favorite Chris, but he tends to pick the worst projects.
The premise of the movie sounds fun but should have leaned into comedic instead of action. And slash that budget in half. I think of Cord Jefferson’s plea when he won his Oscar last year.
“Instead of making one $200 million movie, make 20 $10 million movies or 50 $4 million movies”
And if ever that was a case for less is more or that more is sometimes just more, it is in fact in this case. Yikes.
Interestingly I was reading some BTS stuff about Agatha All Along recently and apparently it’s one of their cheaper series because they built sets and didn’t spend a ton on CGI. I for one loved the finish result.
I don’t know how the production costs compare but we saw the new Gladiator last night and one of my two main gripes was the CGI, particularly compared to the actual sets and stunts of the first one that we saw at the cinema a couple of weeks back.
Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.
Oh and apparently $50M of that is the Rocks salary. Yikes.
I’ve worked on a number of sets around Atlanta. Even with the Rock. And yes, he was late to set but since he was a producer it was weird bc they never put his call times on the call sheet. So was he late😂? It was a convenient workaround. I mean we were all sitting around on set for a while before he showed up. That said, once there, he was always professional and polite. And a fair amount of the crew liked the overtime. Still drove me nuts. Anyways, going back to the CGI. I can’t.
I can’t with these overall CGI movies. Some of them are so ugly. For contrast, Amazon has that show Fallout. I actually think they did a good job with the CGI in that show and incorporated it well with the physical sets and details. The whole vibe worked. To me, red ones looks like ugly CGI. Im not sure how im going to feel about Wicked. Bummed to hear that about gladiator. And 💯 agree about the vibes and physical sets of Agatha all along. So good. Sometimes the darkness of the lighting bothered me but overall, loved it. Ugly expensive cgi can absolutely make or break my interest in a movie.
I would happily watch this, at home, wrapping presents, drinking wine, in my pjs.
Not getting me out of my cozies for this though.
Same. Its looks like fun. I’ll watch this at home at some point, not at theaters, but I feel that way about most movies.
Same. Movies make the transition from screen to steaming so quickly, I can’t justify spending the money seeing anything in the theater — not that I would even want to leave the house if money wasn’t an issue. 🙂
I’ve seen it and I have to say, I tuned out about 1/3 way in. Dull story with too many red herrings in there, weird casting choices (Lucy Lui, even Kiernan Shipka I thought was poorly utilised).
i could go on but won’t.
so, it’s seriously meant to be an Action Film and not just a fluffy Christmas comedy?
A few funny moments, but def an action movie.
This movie would have probably been fine with half the budget. There are not a ton of Christmas movies that appeal to the whole family — Elf was such a gem and Home Alone still seems to appeal to folks. So maybe the idea was to draw in the entire family?
My son is so excited to see this. He made a big deal of showing me and my husband the trailer on YouTube. While it played we were silently arguing over his head about who was going to have to take him. I lost and we are going tonight.
LOL My husband and I used to do that when my son was little. He always lost, poor thing.
My sons are super excited for it too; even though I told them it isn’t getting good reviews. Luckily, they want to see Sonic 3 more, so this one is waiting until it is on our movie package that we have. (I’m in Canada so we still have movie channels with our HBO package)
Okay, we just back from seeing it in a very empty theater. Umm…I kinda really liked it? A weird holiday movie for sure, with a cheesy unnecessary subplot. Just an enjoyable movie all around if you go in with low expectations.
Deadline tends to do fluff pieces for dwayne, when he’s representation is in trouble. Take this article with a grain of salt. The movie won’t break even.
I liked it. Saw it in a spectacularly empty cinema in the afternoon after a stressful day. It was fun. But then I like JK Simmons (he played Santa Claus) and Kristofer Hivju (he played Krampus also Tormund from GoT) It was nice seeing Lucy Liu in something that reminded of her role as O’Ren Ishii.
I saw it over the weekend. It is NOT Oppenheimer by any stretch of the imagination. This is pure holiday fluff complete with a small family redemption arc (that did feel shoehorned in). I thought it was an enjoyable candy cane movie for the holiday season.
Also, I loved that they made the reindeer female (not a spoiler, is in the trailer) because, duh, they always should have been! (male reindeer have already shed their antlers by Christmas, females keep them year round)
I liked it. 😆 But then I’m a big Chris Evans fan. (The best Chris.) It was just a fun romp. Evans always wanted to do a Xmas movie because he loves the holiday so much. But it has quite a bit of swearing (not a ton but not once or twice) which could hurt them with a family audience. It was a strange choice imo. Loved hearing Chris’s Boston accent. It was on full display. I’d give it a B+.
But that budget, due in large part to DJ who produced it and had a lot of issues, is going to make it really hard to break even. It made $80 million worldwide. But audiences have really liked it apparently so we’ll see what word of mouth does. If it wasn’t for Moana and Wicked I think it’d be in a better spot. But amazon put it on yearly rotation.
Thanks BQM, I’ve been looking forward to seeing this and your review is giving me hope that it’ll be okay and fun to watch.
Huh. Then maybe this could be a good at home Amazon watch. My dad might like it.
Unfortunately for the Rock, we can ALL smell what he’s cooking!
DJ hasn’t been in a good movie in years – he is overexposed and he started to buy his own hype years ago.
That along with his cowardly behavior re: “not gonna endorse anyone despite endorsing Biden in 2020” decision…when I saw the movie tanked, my first thought was “good.” Rock can kick rocks for all I care.
I honestly thought this was just a Netflix movie. It seemed too stupid to be in the movie theatres. But I also thought people were smart enough not to vote for an orange clown. Yet here we are.
They were filming this movie two years ago when Chris was named the sexiest man by People. This should have come out last year but makes sense The Rock went diva on it for IMAX. It should just be a fun Christmas movie that becomes part of the yearly rotation instead of trying to be a block buster. You aren’t the Santa Clause guys.
This is a Christmas movie?? I just assumed it was a regular action movie lol. Admittedly I haven’t watched the trailer at all. I just read an interview that Chris wants to be in a musical which would be fun to see.
I love this for The Rock but not so much for Chris Evans and the divine Lucy Liu.
Lucy Liu really needs a better agent, she can’t keep having to be in these terrible movies (*cough* Shazam *cough*).
This should have just launched on the streamers. It looks spectacularly campy bad, but one that you probably could kick back and enjoy while sipping a holiday cocktail and wrapping gifts
Lort. They are admitting this turkey cost 200 million, but who knows how expensive it actually was. 250 million still seems low. Hallmark and Lifetime produce dozens of this type of movie every year for less than that. Studios blindly losing money like this need to be audited and investigated from top to bottom. This hinky math is money laundering 101.
I absolutely do not understand who they thought the audience for this would be.
I have a young kid, I’m not going to take her to this movie because the whole idea of Santa is to be kind and cuddly and warm. A nice old guy who gives presents and lives in a nice place with elves and reindeer. Why would she want to see a thing about a tough Santa who has a bodyguard and enemies and suchlike? It would just confuse her. There are a hundred cute Santa films out there she can watch instead.
On the other hand, no one old enough to not believe in Santa is going to want to see this, because it’s corny and silly. But yet it’s also not some reinvention for adults like Bad Santa or something, because you’re meant to buy into the premise that there’s a magic guy at the North Pole.
So no wonder no one is going.
santa has a body guard and he’s played by a jacked JK Simmons….and at the same time, Santa IS the kind, warm, almost cuddly figure who strives to see the nice in everyone. JK Simmons had not that big a part but he did nail it.
I guess I fundamentally don’t think that the two things – Santa and an action movie – mix for kids. Maybe that’s just me.
JK Simmons is always great, to be fair.
It was terrible! Too many action scenes, and too much CGI. It is made for 10 year old boys! And to boot, it is boring! I would rather watch Elf again.
I loved it, personally.
Also, Chris Evans wasn’t a bounty hunter in the movie. He was a thief/hacker.
I also loved the inclusion of other cultural “december-related” characters.