Just after Donald Trump’s “win,” his people confirmed that Trump would enact one of his biggest campaign promises on Day 1: the mass deportation of immigrants. During the campaign, Trump regularly demonized all immigrants, even immigrants with legal status and work visas, and promised that mass deportations would stimulate the economy (nope), free up housing (also nope) and make grocery prices cheaper (lmao). Millions of Americans knew this was the unhinged plan and voted for Trump specifically because of this. Well, he’s added to his Day 1 deportation plan: he’s going to declare a national emergency and order the US military to carry out mass deportations.
President-elect Trump confirmed Monday that he is planning to declare a national emergency and use the U.S. military to carry out mass deportations. Trump made his promise to deport millions of undocumented immigrants one of the cornerstones of his 2024 campaign, and his team has already begun strategizing how to carry its plan out.
A Truth Social post early Monday is the first time the president-elect has confirmed how his administration will execute the controversial plan. Tom Fitton, the president of the conservative group Judicial Watch, posted on Truth Social earlier this month that Trump was “prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program.” Trump reposted Fitton’s comment Monday with the caption, “TRUE!!”
There are an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the U.S. Trump’s mass deportations are expected to impact roughly 20 million families across the country. Immigration advocates and lawyers are preparing to counter the plan in court. The president-elect’s team is aiming to craft executive orders that can withstand legal challenges to avoid a similar defeat that befell Trump’s Muslim ban in his first term, Politico reported. Their plans also include ending the parole program for undocumented immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela, per Politico.
Trump has also already begun filling out his Cabinet positions with immigration hardliners. This includes tapping Tom Homan, the former acting head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), to serve as his “border czar.”
This is going to be awful. I mentioned this before, but I watched Homan’s 60 Minutes interview, and let’s just say that putting a psychopath in charge of ICE is a bad idea. Homan doesn’t care – neither does Trump – if they round up and deport citizens or legal immigrants. The US military shouldn’t be used in this way, but no agency or department should. It’s all going to be so catastrophic. Especially when Trump and the Supreme Court try to reverse birthright citizenship.
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Now is the time for all of us to think about how we would prove our citizenship if they showed up at our workplace, or pulled us over for minor traffic infractions, or set up some kind of roadblock, etc.
I have thought about this. Honestly, though, if the worst happens, I don’t see anybody pausing to carefully read a xeroxed copy of my birth certificate to then say: “Oh, honey, go on home. We didn’t mean You.” I’ve already lived in cities where stop-and-frisk ruled, and Officer Friendly wasn’t very friendly. They really don’t prioritize carefully reading the fine print when they demonize POC.
I’m Native American and often mistaken for “Mexican”, meaning any type of Latina. Even sometimes Filipina or southeast Asian. I carry a passport card in my wallet and will now also get an official copy of my birth certificate to carry with me. This is insane. But I live on the border. Although ending up deported to Mexico, even erroneously, is sounding better by the day.
Two of my cousins living in Arizona are petrified. All 4 of their grandparents were immigrants. On their dad’s side, they have an Italian last name that is often mistaken for Spanish. On our side, our British grandmother was apparently Sami somewhere back in her family tree, and they inherited her dark coloring and features. They’ve carried their passports with them for years, both have been questioned by cops numerous times, and they’re now afraid to leave home
This occurred to me as well. My 96 yo father has been an American citizen for well over 60 years but he’s not very verbal so how would he defend himself and he’s an attorney. This would be doubly awful as he was carted off to concentration camp by the Nazis. And then there’s me and my sibs. I was born here but my birth certificate also notes the country where each parent was born. In my case both parents were born in Germany AND my mom, although in the US lawfully, was not yet an American citizen when I was born. It’s sad and scary that I even have to contemplate this– and my brother and I are attorneys as well.
And please remember: CBP has jurisdiction within 100 miles of the air border. That means they can question people, board transportation, etc without a warrant. Technically they need probable cause to detain you, but, we know how that can go. If you aren’t sure if you live within this zone, you probably do. Most major cities are… the ACLU has a map.
Now is the time to get your passports/renew your passports if you have not done so already!!!! These are necessary documents if you need to travel out of the country.
I’ve seen some doomsday stuff on Reddit, but one thing that gives me pause is that they are trying to call for a national emergency and using the military for these deportations…if they will use military force for this, what’s to stop them from doing the same to dissidents? Truly a worse case scenario, but I’m scared about what will be possible under Trump.
Do not find yourself in a situation where you are using 20-year old birth certificates and a driver’s license to prove your citizenship or to cross any borders.
Get prepared now!
Given that (I assume) many, many of the mega rich who backed him rely on cheap/undocumented labour and have a much better idea of how the economy works, what happens there?
It means that replaceable workers will become even cheaper, and even more vulnerable to exploitation.
I don’t think so. We are already at very low unemployment. Competition to get workers will go up, so wages might possibly go up to get them. Maybe some undocumented workers will be brave enough to chance it but many, many won’t. We won’t have enough people to keep things functioning as we have become accustomed to, so crops will rot in fields, factories will slow or halt production, construction will grind to a halt, docks will be understaffed, the supply chain will be thrown into chaos, prices will go up, food and product shortages will develop, people will be furious, and the economy will tank. Fun times ahead.
@OriginalMich I agree with all of what you’ve said. I also think that there will be some large employers who will have dispensations to take care of “their people” to maintain their businesses — while the employees and their families will have zero protections agains exploitations of all kinds. We’ve been here before.
As an aside, government jobs — from the Post Office to teaching — have played a critical part in creating the Black middle class. Trump now plans to destroy significant aspects of the government and it’s current functions. That could mean a whole lot of newly unemployed workers who will need to feed their families.
Excellent point! “That could mean a whole lot of newly unemployed workers who will need to feed their families.”
Putin’s puppet crashes the economy because the Q nuts screaming every conspiracy theory aren’t going to do manual labor. The elite, who hate poor whites as much as LBGTQ, POC and women, start targeting rural whites who claim a disproportionate percentage of ssi and other government benefits. Every group mango has targeted has members who support him regardless and the poor white folks drawing ss and ssi are going to be stunned when he comes after them. Leopards eating faces.
Yesterday, the “thought leaders” all started pushing work requirements for Medicaid, SNAP, SSI to their clueless minions who don’t get that those programs have had work requirements since 1995, and some date back to the Reagan era. The only ones not subject to the work requirements now are the elderly, the severely disabled, and kids. It’s the old trick of pitting the working & middle classes against the poor so they don’t realize how much the wealthy are taking
Prison labor. Forced labor is the American way, after all.
I think that’s the plan.
I think it’s going to be even worse than that. I fully anticipate the people they round up being placed in labor camps and forced to do those jobs. The Nazis provided a helpful blueprint for all of this.
@Miranda, guess where the Nazis got their blueprints from?
I will tell you what is going to happen. Think the worst of the worst.
These horrible republican also want to repeal the CHILD LABOR LAWS.
Trump has already said it about farming, “even a child could do it”.
They want poor kids out of the schools and in the fields and factories.
He also said that autos can be assembled so easily now “even a child could do it.” We may soon see kids working on assembly lines in auto plants.
That was the first thing I thought when Trump said he is abolishing the Department of Education. Kick the immigrants out, replace them with poor children to do the labor.
I think this is where the for profit prison sector is going to be beneficial to these rich and I am sure stocks in those companies have sky rocketed, get ready for more mass incarcerations of African Americans as a way to basically re enact slavery. It is disgusting and awful and I truly hope the ACLU is prepared.
There are something like 50,000 immigrants serving in the US military, and another 100K+ are veterans. It’s a common path to citizenship for them and their families. They’re going to be pitted against their own loved ones, and quite possibly deported themselves.
This is possibly the only instance where Trump/the Republicans’ penchant for hiring grossly unqualified people might actually play out well. There’s a decent chance that their lawyers will be too inept to craft such binding executive orders.
Exactly. It’s like 4 -5 % on active duty, and earning your green card through military service is a hugely popular recruiting tactic. What an absolutely ridiculous and hideous plan. Also, I love how this site always uses the most grotesquely unflattering photos of Trump.
I have a passport card (size of a drivers license) that I carry in my wallet all the time. It’s only good for land crossings (Canada and Mexico essentially) but excellent citizenship ID.
It can ordered from the same dept (State) as the usual passport
Thank you for reminding me I have that!
Check expiration dates.. on Nov 5 I checked mine it was expired..
Good point re expiration date.
Except for being non-functional for crossings though… it’s still valid citizenship ID, right?
In the 1950s, the US had a mass deportation of over a million immigrants to Mexico. It was called “Operation W-tback” (I hated typing that out–w-tback is a slur for Latin Americans referencing them swimming across the Rio Grand). Lots of naturalized US citizens and green card holders, even US born citizens were swept up in the deportation. It’s a seldom talked about operation in American history, as is Japanese Internment during WW2 (I didn’t learn about that until AP US History my enior year of high school). The idea of us doing OW 2.0 is grotesque, and it will certainly involve the roundup of people who voted for Trump.
The cost is going to be outrageous–both the human cost in trauma, likely physical and sexual abuse, neglect and hunger, and the financial costs of housing people in camps while hoping, what, hearings? Where do all these people go? Who takes them there? The cruelty of it is going to be unbearable.
So the Trump administration begins with an atmosphere of fear, right out of the Putin playbook. The Trump voting American public has no idea what’s coming. It could very well be step one to the end of America itself.
And, of course, the trauma is the point. Well, one of them. A terrified and cowed population will be too intimidated to pay attention to all of the other things that Trumpists will be doing to exploit and destroy the nation.
I just saw a WSJ article about how the chief archivist at the National Archives is omitting parts of our history in public exhibitions in anticipation of the upcoming administration. Many senior employees there have resigned in protest. One of the things she omitted was the Japanese internment camps. We study history so that we don’t repeat the same mistakes. They’re erasing this from our collective memory because they plan to do this again.
Remember that most of the people they forced into those prison camps were American citizens.
And not a single one of them provided any aid or intelligence to the enemy. Not one.
All the more important for everyday people tp keep journals, documenting what goes on in their lives!
Historian, here! Yes, archives are heavily relied on to construct historical narratives. However, historians know that archives are notoriously flawed because they cannot possibly include everything (so naturally there will be gaps), but also, archives have always made the conscious decision to only include certain narratives to begin with while excluding all others (case in point: literally anything about women, non-white people, or non-wealthy people). Historians use other sources to help fill in gaps left by archives, so journals, private papers, and photos are invaluable! Hell, I’ve even started including printed out screenshots of major news stories in my own diary, because I can’t count on the webpage to be there later.
There is an amazing book by Michel-Rolph Trouillot called “Silencing the Past: Power and the Production of History”, that specifically discusses how many historical events have been omitted from official archives (that the biases that contribute to which stories get documented).
I know everyone thinks their lives are mundane, and wouldn’t know what to write in a diary. But that is EXACTLY the sort of stuff historians love to find for their research. Please keep a journal. Please keep a record of your lives and how events are unfolding right now. Please arrange for your journals to be donated to a local historical society or community archive after you’ve passed away. Our record of the past is best kept by everyday people like us. You may think you have nothing to say, but I guarantee you, your story matters.
@I’m not, I heartily agree. I’m an archaeologist & archaeology provides additional data regarding the past; although it, too, can be subverted. History is also written on the landscape, so I wonder what the National Park Service will do. They have a couple-three park units regarding the WWII Japanese internment camps. Will they close? Will they be defunded? The NPS enjoys Congressional funding–must more so than the Forest Service–so this should be, well, not interesting, but I am curious.
They’ll be put into camps that we’ll likely never see because as Sue said above, Trump will effectively censor anything that makes his administration look bad.
That operation required cooperation from Mexico because they wanted the laborers. If other countries don’t cooperate, then camps will be likely.
A catalyst for my dual citizenship was the pervading environment in the NLs towards immigrants and realizing that if my husband died, I would be deported. When a cashier demanded to see my greencard after Geert Wilders was voted in last year, and everyone in that store stayed quiet, I was really upset! I am sending my fellow immigrants throughout the world lots of strength and support.
The developed countries in the world need immigrants. In the US, the evonomy depends on both legal and undocumented people from elsewhere. They pick our crops, process our dairy, clean our homes and businesses, cut our lawns, are involved with the sex work industry, allow us to eat cheap(er) meat, etc. Republicans are posdibly freaking out about these plans behind the scenes, because life will get more expensive. Or they are about to find out about our hidden economy.
My mother is French and has lived in the UK since the early 70’s but since brexit she’s been so stressed even though on paper she’s fine and she’s jumped through the various hoops. She doesn’t have the finances for getting British citizenship and I know it still plays on her mind. Who benefits from this exactly?
Anti-immigrant talk is one of the great ‘us’ vs ‘them’ rallying cries and it makes me so angry that politicians still use it to gain power when there’s so much evidence for the benefits/need for immigration.
Your point about the hidden economy just reminded me about a conversation with my b/f last week when our Brazilian cleaner’s brother was picked up by immigration for over-staying his visa. There have been lots of raids in our city on food app delivery drivers recently. My b/f took quite a harsh line and I suggested that if he has such strong views on ‘illegal’ labour he’d better stop getting any food delivered or he’s a part of the problem.
Sarahcs, that is why I naturalised as a British citizen just after the referendum.
All that talk of deportation of EU citizens made me suicidal and had to go to therapy.
Once I recovered and got my papers in order, my husband paid the extortionate fees for British citizenship (I couldn’t as I was unemployed at the time).
Might be time to reconsider your b/f.
I was in DC during their last immigrant round-up. These people are not playing around. Everybody needs to come up with a plan. Please alert your friends and families because it will be disturbing and this time they won’t quit. When I was in DC the threat of jail and Robert Mueller and Impeachment were the only things keeping these people in check. And those threats are gone now.
And folks, please pay attention: getting rid of birthright citizenship means getting rid of YOU.
I live in S. Arizona and am very worried about this. Our governor Katie Hobbs says she’s going to fight this but I don’t have any faith in her plans. Trump and his army, as in OUR army but really now it’s trump’s, are going to do what they plan to do no matter what. There will be camps just an hour away from my home like there were before except this time it’ll be worse. It’s all so damn bleak. FDT.
I live in Texas and our governor is a huge Trump supporter. I wonder what his attitude will be when our state is absolutely undone by this. The human cost is incalculable, and the cost to the construction industry and to farming are huge. Projects will halt and crops will rot in fields all over the country. Grocery prices will skyrocket. My Hispanic friends who voted for Trump are going to get a shock. Many were so macho that they wouldn’t consider voting for a woman. Now how will they feel when friends and family are affected?
Logistically, it’ll never happen.
Really? Why not? Please elaborate on your certainty— especially for those of us who don’t see any of this as a theoretical issue.
We already have stop-and-frisk, and laws against loitering and “resisting” police that are disproportionately applied against citizens who are POC. We also already have militarized police forces — who, again, disproportionately wield their power against some communities while “protecting” others. What “logistically” is going to stop what’s already happening from getting exponentially worse?
I fervently hope you are right.
However, even if it doesn’t happen, we still have the problem of a self-destructive populace who voted for this kind of pledge.
A few years back during an earlier wave of immigration from Mexico, I heard an elected official say that immigrants interviewed said that they were told to come, that there were jobs up here. The elected official said that from what they heard, it sounded as if there were bad actors planted in these communities.
I have thought about this over the years and I have always thought that planting people to encourage mass immigration would be a way to destabilize a presidential administration and progressive government.
Yes. It will happen. Possibly not to the extent they are predicting, but enough to turn the country upside down. They don’t care about things running smoothly. They don’t see the people they are targeting as human. Housing them appropriately? Feeding them appropriately? Taking care of medical needs? Acting humanely at all? I don’t expect those factors to play a big role in their logistical planning.
I think part of the plan includes destabilizing bluer areas with the stresses and expense of struggling to accommodate the people being targeted. Public schools and housing are particularly vulnerable to stressors. Once the Department of Education is destroyed, schools will be even more vulnerable— even as already stressed citizens become even less comfortable with being taxed to support resources and services that aren’t directly benefitting themselves.
True. This is trump we’re talking about. He only hires incompetent nincompoops so they’ll half-ass whatever they’re attempting then give up & leave everyone in limbo. Which is horrible in & of itself.
No you’re right that it won’t happen the way Trump wants it to–at least not in the way he’s representing it on social media. The cost alone would be astronomical and the system is far too slow to accommodate it. WaPo’s Nick Miroff did the math: At its current rate of 7,000 monthly deportations, it would take two and a half decades for ICE to reach Trump’s punitive threshold. Plus the economic impact on so many industries from meat processing to the restaurant industry would enrage his rich buddies.
But his administration absolutely WILL deport an unprecedented number of immigrants–that is an indisputable truth. He’ll do it gradually and in waves with felons and criminals first and eventually it will be immigrants with TPS status and the Dreamers. It won’t be on the massive scale he likes to brag about but it will be devastating to the economy and that’s to say nothing about the emotional devastation that families will endure.
Agreed and I also think they’ll get a lot of people killed because they’re focusing on deporting numbers (not people) and won’t care if it’s done safely or well.
As a naturalized citizen (from Cuba), I am absolutely resigned to the fact that it will happen to me. It made me so angry that so many Cubans supported him arrogantly thinking they wouldn’t be touched. Even my family – although not supporters – said he would never touch US citizens. So pathetic because they don’t see how much Miller loathes Latinos (all of us).
I concur. If he does this, it would send the country into a massive recession in which he will be responsible for. If you look at Homeland Security statistics, Trump deported less than Biden in his first term.
His cult has never held him responsible for anything! When we sink into recession, it will be Obama’s fault because ABC or Biden’s fault because XYZ. The reason won’t matter because it won’t be Trump, no way no how. The cruelty is the ENTIRE point and don’t anyone forget that.
He has no one to stop him – wake up.
I’m preparing for how horrible it is going to be.. is it sad I’m buying life saving supplies for everyone for Christmas? Not only for weather related catastrophes but for the collapse of our country.. whatever we may need from other countries is also on the list. I lived in Dearborn for years ago, I’m scared for the friends and neighbors currently still living there, and I’m worried about retaliation on everyone who voted democrat. I said it before, November 6 I renewed my passport I suggest everyone else do the same.. you may not be able to get one when he is sworn in. Time to make sure everyone’s Xanax scripts are up to date and filled..it’s not going to be pretty.
I lived in Dearborn ages ago when immigrants from the Middle East first began arriving. Those who voted for Trump two weeks ago are about to be introduced to the face eating leopards. They may not have time to worry about relatives in Gaza and Lebanon since they will now be in danger themselves.
Thinking back to the Latinos for Trump that I saw interviewed who said “Oh my family are hard working and don’t commit any crimes, they don’t mean us.” I continue to question, what did Russia put in our water? How do they not see that he means them?
Trump projects what he is and does. All his crying about a “witch hunt” when he was being tried for crimes he actually committed…this is going to be the actual witch hunt.
I’m astonished at the belief that Russia is somehow behind Trump.
Trump was elected by Americans.
Please – from what I can read and the results of your election – Americans are far more right-wing than most of you realized. Nothing to do with anybody else.
The vow to use the military is interesting. It will be the first test. How many officers will be willing to carry out an illegal order? And it may also give the regime some idea of exactly how many neo-Nazis are currently hiding out in the armed forces. The fact that they’re planning to do this immediately indicates to me that initially the actual deportation is beside the point. It’s a test for a more robust plan down the road. Of course, it will be awful no matter when.
There are many Hispanics in our military. How are they going to deal with this? Or will those who were serving as a path to citizenship be targeted also?
One of his first orders will be a military purge. He’ll have a compliant military to back his wishes
And he will weaken our military significantly, like Putin wants.
The Fox guy he’s put in charge of DoD says his first priority is removing “woke generals” from the military. I assume that means all the Black generals + all the white generals who refuse unconstitutional orders and orders to commit war crimes.
Removing these guys and promoting Trumpers will disrupt and devastate the US military, leaving Putin free to do whatever he wants in Europe without fear of consequences.
I too was hoping the military brass would refuse unconstitutional orders, but it’s looking like Trump’s team already thought of that. It’s grim.
Don’t forget the women generals, admirals, etc.. You know he’ll get rid of them.
He may want to do this, and he may end up accomplishing some of it, but the other part of this equation are the countries he wants to deport them to, and I imagine they will have something to say about this if it’s in the numbers he’s aiming for.
If people are deported back to their own countries of origin, what would those countries get to say about it? And what impact would that have? Or are the plans something other than repatriation?
I don’t know how it will look. But part of the discussion is deporting not just immigrants who have papers or not but those who were born here. There’s no way he can denaturalize and strip citizenship and deport in the numbers he wants without there being a response. Other countries also have stringent immigration processes, and I doubt that the denaturalization of citizens here is going to make them change that, if it happens that way.
The Mexican president has threatened to deport Americans living there in retaliation.
Exactly. Most countries don’t feel they can refuse their own citizens entry. But some won’t, and some of the people he rounds up won’t be citizens of the countries where he wants to send them.
These folks literally idolize Hitler. Trump reportedly keeps Mein Kampf on his bedside table. Bannon said “this is amazing, it’s like 1933” the first time Trump was elected.
Their “deportation” plan is to lock people up in internment camps, just as that ghoul Stephen Miller said.
My suspicion/fear is that there’s no actual intent to send people to their “home” countries. They will round people up under the guise of mass deportation, but those people will get placed in labor camps instead. They’ll say that they’re just holding them for processing purposes, but in reality the holding is the point. The labor camps (I.e., slavery) are the ultimate goal. I hope I’m just being paranoid, but I can feel in my bones that this is the vision.
Yep. Agree. And it will go the way it went during the Holocaust. Once those labor camps get too expensive, they’ll get turned into extermination camps – first for those who can’t work, then for everyone sent to them.
National emergency is a precursor to martial law.
Martial law means no voting.
Two campaign promises kept!
Legacy media and social media will blame it on immigrants.
His voters will believe what they are told and turn on their neighbors.
And all the suffering will have built in scapegoats.
Instead of protesting we will continue to say it won’t happen.
And before we can don our pink p*ssy hats our colleagues, friends, and family will have disappeared.
Download a free copy of Project 2025 to see what is to come and pack lightly.
Signed Cassandra
What did the protesting get us but another second term of Trump?
He won the popular vote.
Americans made it clear that they want an adjudicated rapist, a convicted felon, and the man responsible for overturning Roe to be the face of our country. If the aforementioned characteristics aren’t enough to convince Americans that this man should be in prison and not in the Oval then I’m sorry, but all the marching and pink hats in the world ain’t gonna convince them.
The protesting worked during his administration. We don’t have to convince his supporters. We have to convince the people in charge.
The people in charge don’t GAF what we think–that’s the problem. They’re drunk on power and the hopeful prospect of tax cuts for the rich, the utter evisceration of every hallowed institution and all the raw nihilism they crave
I’m not trying to discourage people from protesting–not at all–but if the motivation behind it is some false notion that marching will get the Trump administration to take notice and reverse tact well…good luck.
The rest of the world is watching. If anything, I say do not back down. We need to keep being loud and keep protesting. Show Trump’s boss, scum bag Putin, that we won’t just sit here and take it, and they can both go to hell.
True!
Hey, we had counter-protests here in Boston this weekend against The National Men’s March to Abolish Abortion and Rally for Personhood. 17 were arrested including the daughter of my rep (and House Minority Whip) Katherine Clark lol.
Hopefully the city drops all charges.
My children (a college student and a high school student) are international adoptees from Ethiopia and naturalized US citizens. In Trump’s first term, he was successful getting a handful of international adoptees deported (to Guatemala and Ethiopia) for minor infractions such as marijuana use. It felt like a ‘trial balloon’ at the time. I am effing terrified about what this Administration is actually gearing up to do – if they are skilled enough to do it.
All these MAGA-Mommies in Texas who rely so heavily on Hispanic maids, babysitters, and yard help are going to get a nasty surprise. They never thought that Trump’s plans might affect them. Of course they gave absolutely no that all to how it would affect the people targeted.
I’ve consumed so much crap, let them come. I have magats in my extended family and some have girlfriends, boyfriends, wives and husbands who are first generation immigrants. Sorry, not sorry.
So Boston’s Mayor Wu said she will not cooperate with mass deportations and Trump’s border czar Tom Homan said this: “Well, she’s not very smart, I’ll give her that. President Trump is going to prioritize public safety threats. What mayor or governor doesn’t want public safety threats out of their communities? So either she helps us or she gets the hell out of the way, because we’re going to do it. There’s a clear line here, and they can’t cross that line. I will suggest she reads Title 8, United States Code 1324 III, which says you can’t harbor or conceal an illegal alien from federal law enforcement officers. They can not cooperate, but there are certain laws in place that they can’t cross, and I hope she doesn’t cross it.”
So much for state’s rights!
But seriously, the threatening and ominous tone of what he says here…we are SO fucked, guys. And I don’t want to hear about how fascism is on the rise. We are THERE FFS.
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Wow, just like trump & the rest of the magats, she’s Asian, she’s a woman, ergo stupid. I do hope that guy gets his comeuppance. I don’t care how, I do prefer sooner rather than later, but still. Let him get a karmic slap to the side of the head soon.
This frightens me to my very core.
Also, where are they going to get the money for the massive endeavor?
Well if he’s making it a military responsibility, my guess is they would pay up.
They have the money.
This gives Japanese interment camps in the US during WW2. SMH.
Beyond the toll on the deportees, I can’t imagine the mental scars it will leave on the soldiers/staff being ordered to do this.
I think he will make a show of it on day 1 and we will see people in buses being carted off somewhere but that will be the end of it. Just enough of a brouhaha for his supporters to see on TV to think he’s doing something. They can’t remember much so they might remember that footage and that’s good enough for them. It will be on to the next bit of chaos. Oh! And while everyone was distracted, he will have done some backdoor thing to strip rights from people or shuffle money to billionaires. Same as his first term.
I saw an interview with some immigrants in NY who said that they weren’t concerned because they aren’t doing anything illegal and have papers. I wish this was the case. Remember when ICE was kicking down doors and sending people to under-prepared detention centers? It’s going to be worse and people will suffer. There will be no legal reviews, just deportation. If I still lived in the US, I would be stock piling canned fruits and vegetables and helping anyone undocumented that I knew.
He will do it, they are going to have camps overloaded with people, some people will march, the economy WILL crash, people are going to be happy though because, they don’t see immigrants as human beings. It’s gross and awful. When Trump paraded families that had to deal with a death because of an immigrant (that was here illegally) that’s all people cared about. This man will come in and rape and kill my daughter or wife. I 100 percent am not marching or protesting shit.
First up are the Chinese, Muslims, Haitians and Hispanics. The town of Springfield had almost all of the immigrants who moved there legally, bounce. So it’s great that town that was saved is now going to be decimated. Eat crap Ohio.
He’s popular vote lead is like 49 percent now, so no, he didn’t want in a landslide and the majority who sat home can be pure of heart right now that they didn’t vote for Kamala. Asshats.
True story. The Burnham family lived on the next street over from the Trump family in Jamaica Queens. Their backyard properties shared a common fence. One day, Mrs. Burnham put her baby, Dennis, in his playpen on the back porch so he could enjoy the fresh air. Mrs. Burnham would periodically check on Dennis as she did some chores around the house. A while later, Mrs. Burnham heard noises on the back porch. She went to check on Dennis and discovered rocks flying from the Trump property into the playpen. Young Donald was standing at the fence, lobbing rocks at the baby. Regarding this deportation strategy, for those who voted for this sociopath and STILL don’t get it, the cruelty IS the point. Second, when someone shows you who they are, believe them THE FIRST TIME.
Hopefully there’s another attempt on his life and JD’s before January, and I hope they don’t miss.
Legal challenges will bury this. Immigration lawyers will be very busy.
And no competent attorneys will work for this abomination an administration, so this could be tied up in court forever.
Legal challenges might slow it down at the beginning, but eventually the Supreme Court will weigh in. And they’ve already given him immunity for “official acts” which he didn’t have last time. I’m not very hopeful they will rule against him this time around, no matter how much they have to twist themselves into legal knots in order to justify their opinion.
It’s important to try to stay safe. If you are a citizen keep your passport card with you as proof of ID. If you are a legal resident keep copies of important documents with you.
This country is about to go through something that most people today have read about but never seen happen-Buckle up Dorothy is going to be a very bumpy ride for the next 4 years-no matter which side of the coin you are on-there will be very dramatic things that will happen under Trump-he feels he has a mandate to do all the things he has campaigned on-there is noone to stop him except the God Almighty-Those people who can escape his hate and cruelty better be planinng now to have elsewhere to go for a while-project 25 will be put in effect everywhere they can do it-as someone said above this American experiment was nice while it lasted.
It’s obvious which specific ethnicity group Trump is targeting – legal or not- and it starts with a “L”. And many of that group had a very big shift and voted Trump. They will be very very sorry with their vote.
I agree. I am a bisexual, Hispanic woman. I am a US citizen but am terrified of what is coming. I still don’t understand how he got so many votes with all of the negative discourse during the campaign. Why would someone that voted for democrats in the past vote for him?
I only discuss current events with my close (non Maga) circle. But a Latino acquaintance brought up the election and how much she likes Trump. According to her, he is going to “save” the country and solve the immigrant issue. When I asked if she was personally concerned about these proposed round-ups, her response was, “Not at all. I’m here legally and I look white.” I can’t believe how stupid and inhumane people are.
This is heartbreaking to hear. I’m a citizen but I’m terrified of people being round up and inhumanly being shipped out of the country. Some of the people that will be deported have been here since they were 2 years old. They only speak English. They will be deported to a country they don’t know,