While millions of Americans are doing what they can to protect themselves and their families from the incoming fascism of Donald Trump’s second term, the British media continues to gleefully promote the idea that Trump will soon deport Prince Harry. The Daily Mail, the Telegraph, all of the royal reporters, they keep publicly begging Trump to do just that. This item appeared in the Mail’s Ephraim Hardcastle column this week:
Prince Harry’s US residency may now be hanging by a gossamer thread. He has been helped by a very friendly Department for Homeland Security vigorously opposing attempts to release his visa application documents.
But Trump’s appointment of South Dakota governor Kristi Noem to run Homeland Security should concern Harry. She takes no nonsense and no prisoners having shot and killed her 14-month-old wirehaired pointer Cricket in a gravel pit because he was ‘untrainable’ and ‘dangerous’.
As we’ve discussed before, Harry applied for and received a visa (of some kind) in 2020, when Trump was president. As in, Trump’s DHS in 2020 accepted Harry’s application and he’s been a legal resident ever since. That’s why the Heritage Foundation has been on a two-year harassment campaign to get President Biden’s DHS to release Harry’s immigration records. They’ve been trying to force Biden’s DHS to deport Harry (for reasons!). This also appeared in the Mail a few days ago: “Prince Harry ‘faces deportation if he lied on his visa application’: Trump can remove royal from US if he didn’t declare drug-taking, lawyers say.”
Prince Harry may have lost the ‘upper hand’ in his battle to keep his immigration documents secret after Donald Trump’s thumping election victory and now faces a ‘fight’ to remain in the US, experts told MailOnline today. Beverly Hills attorney Alphonse Provinziano, a leading lawyer with years working on international family law disputes for the rich and famous, believes the Duke of Sussex could spend the next four years of a Trump presidency battling deportation.
Harry has lost the ‘protection’ of the Biden administration, according to the Heritage Foundation. The Washington-based conservative think tank is fighting in the courts to have the Duke of Sussex’s visa documents released so they can see if he admitted his historic narcotic use.
Mr Provinziano, who runs the LA firm Provinziano & Associates, told MailOnline that while Trump is in the White House – and the Heritage Foundation refusing to lie down – Harry faces a genuine battle to stay in the US – even though his wife is American and his children are dual citizens.
‘One unlikely loser of the 2024 US presidential election is Prince Harry. Trump has repeatedly said that he thinks Harry should not be allowed to stay in the United States since he “betrayed the Queen” and possibly was not forthcoming about his past drug use on his visa application’, he said. ‘Prince Harry’s lawyers will be busy over the next four years, as Trump has made it quite clear that if he returned to office, he would seek to have Harry removed from the country’.
This lawyer was provided talking points from the Mail and Heritage. It’s the same sh-t they’ve been saying for two years, and the courts are not interested. A judge even looked at Harry’s records and dismissed Heritage’s case. The whole thing hinges on “Harry could be deported IF HE LIED on his visa application.” Anyway, this is going to get worse (in the British media) in the coming months. These people are too busy exposing their whole plan though – they couldn’t bully Harry into crawling back to them, broke and divorced. So now an entire national press and a right-wing think-tank is trying to convince a fascist to deport a prince.
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Trump needs to remember that every year Americans celebrate overthrowing the British monarchy.
Trump has moved on to wanting Ann Selzer investigated and then he’ll move on to someone else in the next two months, he only talks about this when he’s asked directly by the British media I don’t think he cares. That being said the British media’s obsession with the idea that he has nowhere else to go on this planet but back to them is sickening. They behave in all ways like an abusive partner. They have done all they can to ruin this man’s life, his marriage, and his sense of security in where he can live whether in the UK or abroad. Yet, for some reason they think that he’s going to come back and play circus clown for them so that they can earn money again? If I was Harry I wouldn’t care if I had to live in an airport terminal, they wouldn’t make another dime off of me.
As you stated, I don’t think Trump cares. The tobloids think that Harry and Meghan are as important to the U.S. (and probably other countries) as to the U.K. It looks like every time they interview someone from the U.S., they ask about Harry and Meghan. The interviewee would never start on this topic by themselves.
As for Harry returning to the U.K. – wishful thinking. Reporting a.k.a. slander would be worst than it is now. What is more than shocking is that his family (Windsors) have done absolutely nothing to contain this onslaughter. For the sake of the argument, even if Harry should return to the U.K. without Meghan and his children – they would not leave her and their offsprings alone.
Trump is a narcissist. He won’t deport Harry because 1) it would make Trump look bad, and 2) having a royal living in the country he’s POTUS of makes him feel like a big boi.
British media is ridiculous. Even if they were to get this sick and twisted wish, and Harry was deported… does anyone believe that would separate this couple? Hell naw. Harry and Meghan could decamp to Nigeria, they would be taken in, looked after, and be beloved. Meghan is a Nigerian Princess. They got places they can go (no idea if there was any truth in the Portuguese villa stories – if there was, Portugal is by no means their only option here).
Racists at Heritage and the BM and the Palaces keep wanting to pull this couple apart. Not happening. They are superglued. Racists can go pound sand.
After they release Harry’s visa application, then they will release Melania’s Einstein visa. application.
Richard Nixon could not even get John Lemon out of the Country over drug use.
Melania Trump is supposed to have lied on her application as well.
As did Elon Musk. I don’t think the administration is going to want to dig too deep into such matters and set that precedent.
I think we can all guess what Melania was “genius” at doing!
yes, John Lennon is the benchmark case. they will not have an easy time deporting a high profile US visa holder with a wife and 2 kids.
The poor deluded British media. They want Harry to come back so badly, but they haven’t realized that he could just as easily move his family to a country other than the UK.
I mean, my first thought was “didn’t they initially go to Canada after leaving the UK”
Yes, they came to Vancouver Island (where I live) but someone (*coughWilliamcough*) told the press where they were and they were hounded night and day by British paparazzi until Tyler Perry offered them a safe haven.
Very True @Thena and remember how the Sussexes were forced to flee Canada? That was the kind of power the British press once held over Harry and Meghan. The Sussexes moved 3x times while living as working royals in the UK then moved to twice while in North America. Now the Sussexes are untouchable.
One of the main reasons they hate their Montecito home and community is because they are so protected. They can’t get past their private street and their neighbors are protective. The Sussexes are going after the press with multiple lawsuits and the press can’t use any of their usual harassment tactics to stop them. So now they use a USA president to harass them. It won’t work but they’ll keep trying. These abusive tactics is why Harry will be meeting them court Jan 2025.
This is so funny. Trump thinks he should be deported because he betrayed the queen??! Is Trump the queens defender??! Harry’s drug use was literally splashed on the front pages of the tabloids. Why would he lie when he would’ve needed other visas to America before! He lived in California when he trained with the army there! This is so stupid!
It sells newspapers.
Trump was weirdly obsessed with QEII, which is surprising considering that she wasn’t a despot like all the other heads of state he fanboys over. Remember when he seemed to think that he deserved to be part of the US delegation at her funeral, and ranted about how he would’ve gotten better seats? What makes it all extra funny is that we royal watchers remember the gossip about how the entire BRF bickered over who would have to be stuck with him during his state visit, because even those miserable f–kers couldn’t stand his ass. (Incidentally, I think it was Harry who pulled the short straw on that occasion, wasn’t it?)
As far I remember Harry and Meghan didn’t attend any function or banquet with Trump when he and all his children visited. I think Camilla was stuck with the “honor”.
Meghan was on mat leave so she didn’t go to any of it, but I believe Harry went to at least the daytime reception. I think he was speaking with Ivanka.
Ivanka actually has internet safety for children as part of her charity causes, so perhaps she would vouch for him.
I think he was obsessed with QEII because he thought that made him look better than Obama, who famously had a good relationship with her, and I think even though she wasn’t a despot, Trump was definitely in awe of all her trappings. Like Trump would love to have thousands show up to cheer for him on his birthday with a military fly over and to wear a crown covered in diamonds and to live in multiple castles and to have the taxpayers fund his lifestyle with very little oversight and to have a 20 million pound payday annually (at least) from the duchy of lancaster.
I dont honestly think Trump wants to be a “dictator” in that I think it sounds like too much work for him. I mean I know he would rather be a dictator than an actual president but I think if a psychiatrist picked him apart he would want to be a monarch like QEII or Charles – all the trappings, all the gold carriages and diamonds and people bowing before you and calling you “your majesty,” and then you can go on vacation for 2/3 of the year and people shrug and talk about how hardworking you are.
I think Trump (like his father before him?) is a white supremacist. Even better than having the “power” of a dictator would be having worldwide acknowledgment that your birth and lineage mean that you were created as a superior being — with all the trappings of a British monarch.
@Becks: I know you didn’t mean it this way but I don’t necessarily feel any better knowing Trump just wants to be a king, not a dictator. 🫣
@BrassyRebel LOL I know what you mean! It’s not necessarily the most comforting thought. But I think that’s why he was obsessed with QEII. She got to wear a crown and had a diamond scepter and ermine robes and she had her pick of palaces and everywhere she went people greeted her with applause and awe (in his mind) – of course he would emulate that and want that for himself.
Sad but true. Let’s just say it’s not constitutional monarchy he has in mind.
But not Billy the Conq either, he would have to lead his army into battle and risk his own life. As did Richard III
I thought trumps mother was from Scotland and loved the royal family.
In the meantime Harry was visiting schools in Vancouver, not a bored look on the children and teachers faces.
Trump doesn’t care about Harry. He only talks about him when asked questions by the British media. Trump is only interested in deporting brown people.
Exactly, targeting Harry would have no political advantage for Trump. American people don’t care about the legal visa of a rich white British man. Why would his administration even be thinking about Harry, there is no evidence he has lied on any official documents? A judge has seen his immigration records and thrown out the case. The only people who care about this is the British media and some crack trolls. Who think Harry should be punished for leaving the UK and speaking openly about his family.
Yeah, I think the only reason he would attempt to deport Harry is because he thinks it would make him look strong on deportation. But two other things at play here:
1) supposedly, the people who voted for him to deport immigrants are only interested in undocumented immigrants. I mean, if we take them at their word, that’s what they’re saying, right? Immigration is okay as long as you do it legally. And harry did it legally. (lets be honest here, everyone, including the DM, knows that Harry is here 100% legally.)
2) But what we all know is that the people who voted for him care less about legality than they do about racism. They want the brown people deported, the ones who are “taking their jobs” and “abusing the system” etc. For them deportation isn’t about the rich white prince married to a US citizen who has two American citizen children.
But he has a black wife, so yes, they absolutely would do all in their power to punish him for that choice. They can’t deport her, but if they choose, they can and will make an argument, regardless how thin, that he”lied” and therefore must go. It’s about the power to be cruel with that lot, and there is no bottom. The Heritage Foundation wants him gone, and orange foolious is indebted to them. If they want him gone, there’s a very good chance he’s gone. I speculated this might be part of the reason for the Portugal purchase. One can assert that they have so much on their agenda that P. Harry is not on their radar. I disagree. I think he’s right in their crosshairs, because let us never forget, powerful people like those in the H. Foundation, don’t like being told “no.” A court told them “no,” and now it’s payback time. Trust me, I know how silly I must sound, and a few years ago, would have laughed my own self out of the room for such a suggestion. I no longer think it’s at all silly. They really are that petty.
“if we take them at their word” That’s kind of funny, Becks.
This is for Alice –
I am sorry, don’t let them fool you. Do not give the Heritage Foundation more power than they have. Trump is not a fool.
Nothing will happen to Harry. There are reasons why.
Harry is the immediate relative of three US citizens who entered legally and was properly processed in the United States under the first Trump Administration.
Typically, taking drugs is not an issue as the British media would like to have it, a conviction for drug offences is. If you have been a part of the system where you have to adjust your status you would understand the various degrees and tolerances that can be applied to many people.
They are attempting to try Harry in the court of public opinion but what would be the reason for deporting someone who is doing so much for the military community? And is doing things to benefit America as a whole.
Hello.
You don’t have to agree but please don’t let illogic get the better of you.
This is it. Harry hasn’t said anything negative about him and that’s likely the biggest factor outside of being a rich white British prince that will mean he will be fine. Also if Harry does become a citizen, Trump will view that as a coup over the British.
This is the least of my worries right now. Prince Harry is a very famous, very wealthy white prince who is also married to an American citizen. I think he’s fine. The derangers are so desperate to find a reason to punish him for releasing Spare, and it’s obvious that KP and their bots want the words “lies” and “Spare” and “Prince Harry” to be pushed to the top of the internet. What a bunch of sore losers!
Derangers were upset with harry and Meghan from the time when they were first seen together
Absolutely. They have a script of words and phrases that they push – “proven liar,” “traitor,” “lies,” to initiate a hateful algorithm related to Prince Harry. They think they are so clever.
It’s not about Harry releasing Spare, Meghan’s interview or their documentary. Actually, these are only the sideshows. You need to see the bigger picture and that’s his law suits regarding the tabloids. He has one of his court cases coming up in January 2024. AFAIK, the SUN is still open as well.
They tabloids already paid claimants. Acccording to the Guardian, The Sun paid a huge sume because of the phone-hacking scandal. The SUN lost £66m in 2023 in part because of the high cost of paying damages to victims of illegal information-gathering.
There’s also the The Sun’s parent company that paid £51.6m in costs linked to the scandal in 2023. In the previous year it was £128.3m. They had to settle more than 1,500 phone-hacking claims. But, believe it or not, they consistently deny unlawful information-gathering took place.
I really hope that this will take down some of these publications.
So it’s okay for Charles and Andrew to betray the queen. And harry never betrayed her.
Charles complained about his mother years. Andrew betrayed the queens trust.
Does the BM think pointing out that Noem shot her puppy and a goat because they annoyed her really sounds good in the context of them praying Harry gets deported? Are they saying that she was so “no nonsense she shot a puppy” as a way to say Harry better be careful lest he piss her off enough to have violence done to him?
She shot the puppy because she wasn’t intelligent enough or patient enough or experienced enough to train it like any number of millions of other people manage to do with dogs. She wasn’t even compassionate enough to just rehome it or to think about the effect on her children of murdering family pets. She is right in line with all of the other DT proposed appointments. All of them are criminal, awful people. The only slim hope now is that Congress does its job and says no to all of them.
After she shot the dog she also shot a male goat. The Guardian has a detailed article directly quoting from her book
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/26/trump-kristi-noem-shot-dog-and-goat-book
I think the British are usually pretty strong dog lovers who would find Kristi Noem horrifying.
Harry and Meghan are both well connected people. If worst comes to worst and something happens they will be fine. This is just a sick dream the UK press have because the other royals are boring and lazy. They desperately need Harry and think this is the only way for him to come back. It’s so sad. Harry is the only one that kept that monarchy going.
Here’s the weird thing – let’s say that Harry including Meghan and their children would return to the U.K. (for whatever reason – example: Harry is deported) – why does the tabloids think that they would become working royals again and have access to the Sussexes? They can still run their Archewell, Invictus etc. In other words, they could be private citizens in the U.K. also. That would surely bend the tabloids out of shape.
On a side note, like many famous people – Switzerland is actually the way to go. Think Tina Turner, Charlie Chaplin, Freddy Mercury, Robert Palmer, etc. Switzerland is reknown for privacy and discretion, allowing people to live without all the media frenzy.
“These people are too busy exposing their whole plan though – they couldn’t bully Harry into crawling back to them, broke and divorced. So now an entire national press and a right-wing think-tank is trying to convince a fascist to deport a prince.”
Exactly. Anyway, white/European immigrants are going to be at the bottom on the mass deportation priority list. I was listening to discussion about this yesterday and an immigration lawyer said that it’s going to take years for the Trump Administration to be able execute the mass deportation scheme because they don’t have the manpower to deport the huge number of people that Trump wants to deport and because each matter would be tied up in court for years.
Yeah, they are going after people who wouldn’t afford high-priced lawyers. I doubt Harry, a white man who can afford years-long court case, is a priority for them. Now, if it was Meghan who wasn’t the citizen, Trump wouldn’t mind turning her life into hell.
I agree.. the only thing that makes me nervous is Trump is as easily led and the Heritage foundation is controlling his leash right now.
I don’t think he’s going to care about laws: deport first, ask questions never….
There’s still due process. Not to mention the precedent it would set to make public personal, confidential, information held by government departments. Which is why DHS opposed THF’s demands and a Trump-appointed Judge found in favour of DHS. There’s also the small matter of Melania’s Einstein visa, those of her parents and Musk’s issues. Personally, I’d like to see Piers Morgan’s, Tom Parker-Bowles’, Lord Freddie Windsor’s and the Osbournes’ (amongst many others) 🤣🤣🤣.
Stop drinking trump’s lemonade, if they’re stop at the border, they can be refused entry, but if they’re in the Country, they have to go before a Judge and if they can’t afford a lawyer, they will get one appointed by the court.
They’re focused on brown people, but once they opened that kettle of fish, they will have to go after the Europeans also.
That is not how it works. Can Trump give him hell? Yeah If Harry’s visa had not gone through the court process then yeah but even then all Trump is going to do is talk a lot and have people send them you know what.
But he cannot just deport.
There is a process. First of all this is just a fishing expedition as depending on the visa that question might not even be part of the equation. So all this talk is for naught.
The court has refused to release it because as they said even Trump has a right to privacy.
Jan makes a good point. Having a visa or green card does NOT guarantee that the bearer will be admitted to the U.S. When I taught immigration law, the analogy I use is that a visa/green card is the invitation to the party, the CBP officer at the port of entry is the bouncer working the door, and the I-94 card (now electronic)/passport stamp is the key that unlocks the door and gets you past the bouncer into the party.
There are different rules for people already in the US vs people returning from a trip abroad. I have had some clients with actual drug convictions that are effectively trapped in the U.S. because their convictions cannot be used to deport them but could prevent them from being readmitted if they leave the U.S. and seek readmission.
If Harry travels internationally and gets inspected by the wrong CBP officer with a chip on his shoulder/grudge, he can be detained and placed in removal (deportation) proceedings for allegedly lying to obtain his visa/green card. Even if the proceedings ultimately get dismissed as unfounded, it can – and does – happen. While I feel his high profile and status as well as his marriage to a USC and having US citizen children could protect him somewhat, I do not trust this Mango Mussolini crew. They can still make his life all kinds of hell without actually succeeding in deporting him.
Now the house purchase in Portugal makes a lot of sense. It will either be where they go to ride out the upcoming insanity until a new, functional administration is elected or will be where they go to avoid fascism and raise their kids in peace.
@Bearcat
But we do not know the contents of Harry’s visa’s application. And as we do not know, we have to defer to the decisions of the DHS and the Judge on this issue. That there was nothing untoward in the application. I do not believe any CBP Officer would deport someone as high profile as Harry. As this has been in the media, it is not as if people do not know about this case. Harry and his team would have already taken all the necessary precautions. Harry was in Colombia, Nigeria and now Vancouver. All foreign countries.
Oh and I am a lawyer too.
They’re going to withdraw military from overseas to do it, as Putin no doubt suggested.
These idiots in the BM need to worry what Trump is going to do to the UK when he hits that country and others with 20% increase on tariffs on their goods imported to the US. And a state visit to the UK will bw a nightmare: the Foreign Office will expect the BRF to roll out the red carpet for Trump (and Elon Musk) to massage their egos. Kate and William as heir to the throne and spouse are expected to show up, no getting out of it. Trump would dog walk the Windsors to make a point. Glad the Sussexes are away from that mess.
I think will is like Trump and they will hit it off. Cue more peg the statesman spin.
The problem is, Will doesn’t want to be seen like Trump. He wrote a letter to the family of one of the officers killed on January 6th. When the family didn’t call the media, his team leaked the story. He surely wants to be seen as anti-Trump. Kate making events with Jill Biden wasn’t a coincidence either.
William is a lot like Trump. He may not want to be seen like him. But he’s strictly Maga. William can’t help himself. Jill Biden did not seem to thrilled with Kate, that time Kate slid down the slide. I think Jill took more to Meghan.
Even if Harry were to be deported, he will not come running back to the UK like a combat medic to save the mortally wounded monarchy. The monarchy is crumbling and already starting to decompose, as a result of the actions of the dead queen and the left-behinds. Just accept it already.
Harry won’t be deported. He has those 400 pages he left out of spare. I don’t think Charles would want to open that can of worms
The Biden administration was not giving Harry some sort of special protection as the DM implies. They were following the actual law. The Trump regime will not and will probably go judge shopping so we’ll see what happens there. In the meantime, ffs.
Like I said above, there’s still due process to follow. Not to mention the precedent it would set to make public personal, confidential, information held by government departments. All hell would break loose. Which is why DHS opposed THF’s demands and a Trump-appointed judge found in favour of DHS. There’s also the small matter of Melania’s Einstein visa, those of her parents and Musk’s issues. Personally, I’d like to see Piers Morgan’s, Tom Parker-Bowles’, Lord Freddie Windsor’s and the Osbournes’ (amongst many others) 🤣🤣🤣.
You are correct that as of today we still have SOME degree of due process in immigration proceedings. But it is not the same level of protection that is extended to US citizens, and there are a LOT of immigration decisions that are *completely unreviewable* by our court system. Even some of the most cherished rights and protections of the Constitution do NOT apply to noncitizens seeking admission at a port of entry.
I agree that as of today with a levelheaded, functional government DHS will fight to protect immigrant privacy rights, including Harry’s. The problem is that under a deranged fascist leader being egged on by that total nut job Stephen Miller, anything’s possible. What better way to “prove” Cheeto Voldemort is not a racist than to seek to deport a rich white prince?
@ Beth This lawyer who have been through the Adjustment of Status procedures agrees with you.
@ Bearcat – I hear you but I disagree.
It would be hilarious if they try this and the man is already has a usa passport in his safe.. that would be hilarious. He might just be Mr. Henry Sussex here🤷🏼♀️. No matter what happens Prince Harry isn’t going back, I can see them relocating to another country if things get bad, like every liberal with a money will be doing it’s only those of us that don’t have the resources and funds who will suffer.
How utterly stupid. First off, ICE is not going to rock up at Harry’s door and take him into custody and deliver him to the UK. He will first be served with a notice to appear at his local USCIS office. Whichever branch decides to proceed will have to complete their investigation against him before they will file a Request with the Immigration Court to revoke his green card.
There is a long process before it even get to the issue of deportation. And if his green card is revoked, there are appeals and other legal avenues open to him. This can take a long time before his green card is even revoked. Given that he is a wealthy individual with the financial means to fight this, they have to wait possibly years to get any result, let alone the result they so desperately desire.
In the very unlikely scenario that it is revoked, he is always given the chance to self-deport, ie, leave on his own free will and go to any other country but the US. He can go anywhere else in the world. They are not getting Harry back. I bet he will rather go to the South Pole than back to the UK and be their scapegoat again.
I have seen their so-called “investigations.” They simply do not investigate immigration offenses like crimes because immigration proceedings are civil and not criminal. Immigration proceedings also have more relaxed rules of evidence; for example, hearsay evidence is totally permissible.
The overwhelming majority of immigration cases are barely investigated. The bulk of the time ICE “proves” its cases by submitting its own records, even when they are clearly incorrect or falsified. Example: I had a very old case where a then-INS officer forged an affidavit for my client that ICE later introduced as evidence in his deportation case. Even after my client testified that the officer had him sign and date several blank sheets of paper ostensibly to send to the FBI for comparison with his signatures on his immigration forms (which does legitimately happen) AND I proved that the signature date on the alleged affidavit was THREE DAYS BEFORE some of the events described in the affidavit AND provided evidence that the handwriting of the actual text of the affidavit matched the INS officer and not my client, ICE still swore up and down that it was reliable evidence against my client. I even specifically asked my client under oath, “Do you know how to bend the time-space continuum such that you could sign and date an affidavit three days before these events occurred?” and “Do you have any verifiable psychic powers?” The affidavit was kept in evidence anyway. Moral of the story: NEVER expect ICE to do it job, much less do its job correctly.
And self-deportation or voluntary departure are NOT always options. It largely depends on how ICE charges the person and if they are detained, among other factors. Immigration judges also always have discretion to deny voluntary departure as a form of relief, thereby ensuring the person ends up with a removal order on their immigration record.
Harry is rich enough to live anywhere if he so chooses, and the U.K. wouldn’t be one of those places. Idek what they’re getting from this.
Many of us are still reeling from the election. While I try to agree with the sentiment that freaking out over all the things Trump says he is going to do is premature-let’s wait and see what he can actually accomplish and how many guardrails hold-there are real efforts ready to go to break the guardrails and processes down first. It is very prudent for Harry to have an exit the US strategy in the event he needs it. Given the plans regarding firing federal employees and asking those that stay or replace them to rescind their oath to the Constitution in favor of a loyalty oath to Trump, the idea that Harry could run into a less than favorable agent upon his return to the US from a trip abroad could actually occur and he be denied entry.
What is crazy about this whole situation, is that I agree Trump would prefer to be a King and just spend most of his time at the Florida winter palace, AND that he is attempting to turn the US into a parliamentary system form of government as a way station to Orbanland. 250 years later we lost the Revolutionary War.
The blue states that also have blue state house, senate and governor will be filing lawsuits before left leaning federal judges and left leaning circuit courts. Washington State had the lead when the Orange Blob was in office before and made it clear we would probably be the lead going forward. These states are serious, and they are on top of it. The fascists think they will get free reign, but it won’t happen.
I am trying to comfort myself with the fact that during the last Cheeto Pendejo administration, he was frequently stymied in his stupid tracks by dedicated, committed, experienced civil servants at all levels and in all agencies. It’s my privilege to have many friends in Washington working in federal bureaus and agencies (most are folks I met in grad school, while others are folks I’ve met professionally), and they all dug their heels in during Pendejo’s last term in office, slow-tracking his “directives,” quietly shelving orders where possible, and sometimes explaining publicly why some things just couldn’t happen.
When Pendejo came back from a visit to France at which Macron treated him to a parade (I think it was for a D-Day commemoration) complete with tanks, military vehicles, and a jet flyover, he was fired up for a bigger parade — of course, it had to be bigger than Macron’s! — for Independence Day. I think it was the National Park Service who explained to him why he couldn’t have an Independence Day parade in Washington DC complete with tanks and military vehicles towing heavy artillery: because DC’s streets would buckle under the weight. No parade for Pendejo.
The new Senate majority leader, John Thune, is a normie Republican, not a deranged MAGAt. As I write this, powerful forces are being arrayed against the worst of Pendejo’s excesses. I’m not quite optimistic, but I can hope.
Same. I even said that here, the House is a bunch of nuts, but the Senate is not going to vote around agencies they have jurisdiction over, or let Trump (who is in here four years) control their branch. Cause next time someone will say, why have Congress. Thune and others want to see the Matt Gaetz report.
No offense, I don’t care if this happens. With everything else, shrug. Harry has money and resources to I assume bounce to Canada. It just makes the US look really bad that a wealthy white man had to leave. I am sure the US media will go there, and the UK media will be gleeful. If I were Harry, I bounce to one of the African countries he likes and be about his business.
If he decides to go to an African country, he should go to Lesotho. He is beloved there and they have a solid reputation for standing up to tyrants and protecting their guests. They gave protection to many anti apartheid fighters who had to flee the Apartheid security police. Plus its beautiful, peaceful country.
They can’t. The sort of work Harry and Meghan do requires lots of eyes. They need to be based in or near a big media market like Los Angeles. If they hadn’t moved to LA, NYC would have been the next-best choice. They’d have to go somewhere in Europe. NOT Portugal — beautiful, but too small. I’d guess France, Germany (Frankfurt, Munich), or Sweden (Stockholm). Toronto would be good, but unless the laws in Canada change so that they’re not harassed 24/7 like they were in Vancouver, Canada’s not an option.
They can work anywhere. And it’s beyond outdated to me IMHO that they have to work in LA or NYC or somewhere in Europe.
These idiots know that there are other countries all over the world, right? Ya’ll are never, ever getting back together!
Isn’t this where their rumored real estate purchase in Portugal comes in? If Dumpf makes any legal trouble for Harry regarding his green card, Harry and Meghan can wait out his presidency in Portugal. It’s sunny and their kids can learn a new language and they will still have the money to fly anywhere they need to for in-person business or nonprofit meetings and Invictus events.
The DailyFail is insane. This is not the feudal times and 🟠🤡 is not a King with sovereign power
Ok people. Harry isn’t going anywhere. His case was already settled. Heritage Foundation can file all the legal papers it wants but Harry also has lawyers. A President just can’t order the release of his immigration information. I’m sure the President doesn’t want to waste his political capital targeting people that are here legally. What this shows is how people easily believe tabloids and their propaganda. SMDH.
Rota: He ain’t coming back. EVER. He earned generational wealth with his business deals and the publication of Spare. He will keep his family safe.
Can men have “anchor babies” or is that just women?
Anywhooo. Harry has 2 anchor babies and at this point, he could claim refugee status on his visa application (I personally think he bypassed all of this application whatever, as a special person of interest or diplomatic something. The rules shouldn’t and usually don’t apply to someone like him.)
He might be able to prove his life would be in danger if he were to be forced to return to the United Kingdom without the level of protection, he requires.
H lives in CA. Newsom isn’t scared of Trump or his administration, Trump tried to bully him during his first administration and didn’t get anywhere. CA can withhold taxes to the federal govt and keep it internal for CA instead.
I think Trump is jealous of Prince Harry.
Prince Harry – Fought in Afghanistan, saw active service, has fought against racism, and is trying to make the world a better place. A man who believes in women’s rights, eradicating poverty, and founded the Invictus Games.
Versus:
Trump – a disgusting lowlife who made fun of injured servicemen, and call John McCain a “loser” for being captured during the Vietnam war, a man who was kept in a cage, and was tortured so badly that he suffered permanent damage that resulted in him never being able to raise his arms above his head. A man who was given the chance to be released as his father was important, but refused so that others could go before him. Regardless of his political beliefs McCain was an honourable man imo. Trump knows he himself is a coward, a bully, a sex pest, and can never match up, hence the jealousy.
These pseudo-journalists – will run anything for clicks.
1. Neither the Heritage Foundation nor any journalists know what type of visa Harry has. If he has the A1 visa (for diplomats but also for royal head-of-states and their family members – without being a so-called working royal) would allow him to reside in the U.S. No drug-related questions are asked. So how could he had lied if he does have the A1 visa?
2. If he has a spouse visa – he will be asked regarding drug use and it COULD (notice the operating word is “could”) affect your application. According to the government site, they MAY require a drug test ( a lot of conditional grammar there). If the drug test is clear – no problem.
I’m going for the A1 visa for a simple reason – if Harry changes his visa status for A1 to a normal visa then he would be taxable in the U.S. It would open accounts and financial information about the royal family (see link below).
Of course, even if Harry isn’t taxable in the U.S. – he still pays property taxes respectively local taxes like sale taxes. On the other hand, Meghan would be taxable in the U.S. and they can’t file jointly. Like mentioned in the article – nobody knows Harry’s visa status. The tabloids can’t seem to get a grip.
If he is on a spousal visa in the meantime, any immegration lawyer will know how to make use of any exceptions that might apply in your situation, or whether there is a waiver (legal forgiveness) that you can apply for even after the fact.
Here the link mentioned above:
“The Royal Family has been advised by a tax expert to tread carefully regarding Prince Harry’s US citizenship, with concerns that it could become a “dagger in the heart” of the Firm’s finances.”
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/1228659-financial-alert-from-royal-family-prince-harrys-us-citizenship-raises-concerns