Once again, for the fifth year or something, Prince Harry and Prince William did separate events for the Diana Award, the sole patronage in which both brothers have stayed involved. At the last Diana Award ceremony, William appeared in person and Harry appeared virtually, hours after William left. Harry also did a solo event with the Diana Award in September, when he was in New York. This week, William handed out letters to the recipients and didn’t go to the ceremony, while Harry sent in a prerecorded video. This has apparently set off the Daily Beast’s Royalist, Tom Sykes. While his new column snipes at Harry, Sykes and his sources save the most aggrieved criticisms for (gulp) William. As in, William is supposed to be the next king, and he’s behaving like a sullen child, stomping his feet and refusing to even speak to Harry. Some highlights from Sykes’ new column:
The brothers refusing to appear together at the Diana Award: Their inability to appear even in the same virtual space (the awards were held online Thursday), marked a “sad indictment of both brothers obstinacy,” that is harming both of their reputations, friends of the family and former staffers told The Daily Beast.
Harry will not apologize: Harry is said to have dropped his own demands for an apology from the royals for the poor and discriminatory way he alleges his wife was treated by the royals when they lived in the U.K as working royals, and The Daily Beast has been told he would like to make a fresh start with his family, including his brother. However, Harry has made it clear he will not apologize for or withdraw remarks made in his films, book or interviews which shed unprecedented light on intimate family secrets—and William will not countenance a rapprochement unless he does.
Hard Peg: William’s stance has hardened, sources have told the Daily Beast, since one friend first told The Daily Beast that William “f***ing hates” his brother. This came after Kate Middleton was “accidentally” named as one of the so-called “royal racists” who Meghan Markle alleged raised “concerns” over the likely skin color of any of Meghan and Harry’s children, before they were born…Friends of William’s have previously told the Daily Beast that many in William and Kate’s circle believe that by telling Oprah Winfrey on TV that somebody or some people had made racially insensitive comments, Harry and Meghan set in train a series of events that would inevitably ultimately lead to Kate being identified.
A former staffer who worked with both brothers says: “It’s extraordinary how what was essentially a family argument has got completely out of proportion and is now causing immense damage not just to Harry’s reputation, but also to the king, who looks weak for not being able to crack his sons’ heads together, and the future king, William, who looks petty and ridiculous. Whether or not it is the case, it looks very much like William refused to attend the awards after hearing Harry was making a video appearance. Is this how he is going to rule the country?”
An old school friend of William and Harry says: “The Windsors are known for being obstinate, and this is a sad indictment of both brothers’ obstinacy. It’s in honor of their mother, for goodness sake.”
William’s influence: The Daily Beast has previously reported that William is getting, if anything, more hostile to the concept of a reconciliation with Harry. Furthermore, The Daily Beast has been told he is using his influence to prevent any reconciliation between Harry and King Charles.
First of all, I think it’s interesting that this “both sides need to work it out” tantrum is coming out regarding the Diana Award stuff, all while courtiers, friends and “royal sources” stay silent as the grave about all of Harry’s very newsworthy comments at the New York Times’ DealBook Summit. It’s almost like they’re consciously ignoring everything Harry said on the record at a prestigious summit which also featured people like Bill Clinton, Jeff Bezos and Serena Williams. They think if they ignore it, they can just continue with the stale storylines they already have in motion, aka William And Harry Need To Bury The Hatchet.
As for that hatchet-burying agenda… the fundamental problem is the one which is rarely said out loud. William will “never forgive” Harry… for moving, for being successful, for marrying his dream girl, for not begging to come back, broke and divorced. That is why William is mad. William thinks he’s owed the upper hand as the heir. He thinks he should be able to bark orders at Harry. William’s brain has been broken for years because none of this Sussex situation has gone the way he planned, or the way he was promised it would go. And yes, William does look stupid, petty, ridiculous, childish, wrathful and violently punitive. Which is why so many people are still pleased that Harry got his wife and children the hell out of there.
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I suppose it is to difficult for those folks to understand that perhaps Harry does not wish to engage with William without the apology Harry requested
The best thing for William was Harry’s memoir.
Harry specifically said that they aren’t lazy. That William and Kate aren’t lazy. They can only do the amount the king lets them do. That bought W&K a lot of slack from most of the people I’ve spoken to about it.
William had already proven himself to be a horrendous person by the time the book came out.
Seeing the love and affection Harry still has for William made me give him a second and third look. Like – wow
Ok. How did Harry’ and William’s shared experiences shape William? Why is he the way he is? Instead of just instant WHAT A POS that had been running non stop.
In the end, William did not capitalize on the good will presented to him by his brother. He did not say – oh. He didn’t throw me under the bus. He mentioned ONE singular time in which I attacked him in his home. He could have done so much worse but didn’t. And he actually made me look like a complex human being and the not a lizard creature wearing human skin vibe that I give off.
William could have done so much with spare. Could have made attempts at repairing things. But a malignant narcissist is going to narcissist.
Majority of the materials/writings of “Spare” were done before QE2’s funeral. I doubt Harry still holds the same “fondness” toward his brother after Meghan’s court case against The Fail & his grandmother’s funeral. (I’ll forever remember how sh!tty & inhumane the BM, Brits and the British Government treated Meghan during those 2 weeks.)
I think Harry still loves his *%$# brother, but the love for his wife & children are the most important thing to Harry now.
This is a really excellent point – William could have handled post-Spare so differently, but once again is foiled by his own hubris and lack of imaginative or intelligent advisors.
One of the most heinous things William did was to ask Knauf to “investigate” Meghan “bullying” which was one of the most awful things William did. There was no doubt nothing in that report so it was stored away. But it did damage, and some of course derangers call Meghan a “bully” and spread lies . I think there should be an apology from William (which I doubt will happen. There might not have been a “spare” book if William had gotten some counseling and stopped hitting William and getting angry and resentful and trying to break up Harry and Meghan.
How would he “attend” an online event anyway?
I’m a resident on Salt Island and am definitely #TeamSussex on this one the press were vicious and the calls were obviously coming from inside the Palace. The longer the Sussexes are gone proves how right they were to leave and just what a big space they left behind them. They left for their own safety (physically and mentally) and I applaud them for it
I still think that the “business model” that Harry told Oprah he had no interest in involved William being the face of the kingdom while Harry would be doing all or most of the real work behind the scenes. The way that William continues to behave over the way convinces me more and more that my theory is correct.
Here’s the Eternal Truth: nothing that Royal Family does, no matter how many charitable causes they support, speeches about mental health (!!!!) and caring for the planet they make, and goodwill gestures they attempt, nothing will ever be right and fixed until they extend apologies and an olive branch to H&M.
They can meet and scheme and post on social media all they want, but there is just no way around this. And every month that goes by cementing this freeze out (such as missing Christmas invitations) they sink lower and lower.
@NOHOPE, as your name implies, I have no hope that the RF will ever make amends. They have cultivated a fan base of racist that will not tolerate a change in attitudes. Furthermore, they will gain nothing by doing the right thing because most supporters of H&M will never trust or respect the left behinds. The RF has let this fester for too long now to make a successful sea change. Their ship has sank and they don’t have enough life preservers.
@PC and NoHope, You are both correct. The Windsors could have hit the brakes on this situation, perhaps within the first year after Sussexit, but they still thought they could keep control. They thought they could break them. The Left Behinds thought they could drive H&M apart and Harry would return to England chastened and defeated. When this didn’t work, they panicked and went into overdrive mode and had the rota throw everything at the Sussexes to see which straw would break the camel’s back. It’s blatantly obvious that their schemes and machinations are snowballing into increasingly unhinged but completely ineffective threat displays, alternating these days between declaring how much they hate Harry and begging him to come back.
But the Sussexes landed on the feet and continue to thrive, both romantically, financially and in their precious family bubble. So now the royals and the rota are frustrated as the Sussex star continues to rise, no matter how the shitty royal leftovers and despicable rota try frantically to make fetch happen. It’s too late for the olive branch.
That is the truth. While W&K were newly-wed or raising their young family, Harry was sent everywhere representing the Crown. Most people called Will Harry’s brother since Harry was the guy doing the heir’s work all around the globe, meeting politicians, leaders. They gave no such time to H&M when they married or they had children. Harry has always been both workhorse and scapegoat for the firm.
Can you imagine if Meghan and Harry were still with the firm 🙄🙄 OMG the whole country would be demanding that they do all the work and make all the appearances, with no regard to their 5 and 3 year olds, while Kate stay home for the next 3 years with pre-cancerous cells🤣🤣 🤣
I really hope that’s not true that Harry’s dropped his demand for an apology on how they treated Meghan to reconcile with them.
That should be the very least
There is absolutely no way that happened. They just want to make
Harry look desperate.
Harry hasn’t dropped his lawsuits. You think he’s gonna drop the demands for an apology that his wife deeply deserves?
This.
I don’t believe that he did drop his demands for an apology to her and him. No way.
Hard Peg 😂😂😂
Yes, he is the reason why Charles has not been openly warm to Harry. Charles is afraid of William.
Imagine being more upset that YOUR leaky environment led to Kate being named, rather than the fact shot behind Meghan’s back Charles and Kate were wondering how dark a baby would be. THAT is the shameful part. They also ignore that it was through THEM that the Meghan made Kate cry lie came out that got a load of abuse heaped on Meghan. Basically Meghan attacked? Fine. Meghan correct lie? Not fine.
I’m surprised they’re basically admitting that Kate is the royal racist. Well, they all are but she more obviously so.
This is more proof to me that they are jettisoning Kate. If there was an airlock, she would already be thrown out of it. They want her, not Chuck, to go down as the racist.
For sure that’s the shameful part. Thinking back to the Oprah interview, we were all so shocked when Meghan very politely corrected the crying story by saying it was the reverse and Kate made her cry. And then we were shocked about the royal racist but we had no idea Kate was one of them. But they all knew right after Oprah that it was Kate and Charles. Kate and William must’ve been truly reeling after that interview. Kate especially. Everyone in their circle knew it was her and it sounds like a lot of the journalists did too.
@Brassy this a new angle. Before sources were doing everything to paint Meg as a liar, now all they can say is that Meg put the wheels in motion for Kate to be outed. Something’s up.
We may have been shocked when details about Kate’s character initially came out.
But when we finally found out that Kate was one of those royal racists, many of us realised that we been knew all along.
Exhibit A: the infamous Page Boy painting by Aelbert Cuyp. Of all the paintings they could have chosen from the Royal Collection they picked this one? As a young family?
Exhibit B: the way Kate treated Olivia Grange, the Jamaican minister of Culture, Gender, Entertainment and Sport, when she not only shied away from her but made a few steps backwards.
Exhibit C: the fact that Kate’s never been to anywhere in Africa — and I will always be Team “Engagement story is a lie” because it’s identical to one we had heard before.
Exhibit D: the very noticeable way Black people used to be treated before the RR story came out, and the way there’s been a mad scramble going on to find an alibi Black person to appear with Kate after the RR was exposed.
Looking back, the signs were always there that it was Kate. I know at the time many of us speculated that it was either her or William, but now it seems so obvious that it was always Kate. Remember how william went to that event with her right after the interview (the “very much not a racist family” incident), remember how we heard for months on end that William couldn’t forgive Harry and Meghan for what they said about Kate in the interview – the only thing Meghan really said about her was that the crying story was false, and that Kate was a good person, and that if you loved her you didn’t have to hate Meghan and vice versa. So it always seemed odd that was twisted to “William can’t forgive them for attacking Kate.”
But it makes sense if Kate was the one who was “concerned.”
It’s funny bc looking back even with all the signs, I was still surprised. It does make sense looking back. But wow. I think back to those polo pics when little Louis wanted to check out Archie but Kate wouldn’t let any of her kids near him. And then you realize Meghan knew at that point that Kate had had concerns about Archie’s skin tone. And Meghan’s sitting there thinking that this woman is going to one day be queen and how is she going to treat my child. Whew, Meghan went through it.
And also think about how the Oprah interview has seemed like such a turning point for William and Kate. It did cause them turmoil. For good reason cuz it was their own actions a come to light. But yeah agree becks1, it makes more sense now how William felt Kate was attacked.
Royal sources said that Will couldn’t sleep and was so nervous when Oprah interview was announced. He expected a lot harsher truths to come out especially about himself. I believe, H&M didn’t share a lot of things about Will.
And even then, during the Oprah interview, Meghan threw Kate a bone by saying she was “going through something” (coughRosecough) and that she later brought a card and flowers to apologize. But it was a fauxpology as we all saw with her subsequent insulting, aggressive behaviour.
Remember when we said William started to openly distance himself from Kate not long after the Oprah interview? (The new zoom room). Maybe he was mad about the racist comments from Kate and knew what was not being said in the interview.
That’s because it’s okay to be racist, but not to be called racist. That’s for peasants
I feel like this is the definition of white fragility.
I WAS surprised to learn that K was one of the Royal Racists because personally I couldn’t imagine her saying something like that to her BIL. I didn’t think that she and H were that close that she would think she could make such comments to him?
@SURE one of my impressions of Kate from spare was that she thought she had a much bigger say in Harry’s life than she actually did. I mean the way she attacked Meghan over the BM dresses – something that was really none of her business, she should have just put the damn dress on Charlotte – the way she and William rearranged the seating at the wedding dinner (I mean WHO DOES THAT), etc.
I can see her saying something to Harry because she thought she had an actual say in Harry’s life (and didn’t want her children to have to stand next to Black children on the balcony). I’ve also always thought that she and William were behind the whole “strip the children of their right to HRH when QEII dies” idea so that their children would be the only HRHs of that generation. I dont know how she was before she married William but I think at some point during their marriage she decided she had a bigger right to interfere in Harry’s life than she actually did.
I also got the vibe from spare that Harry didn’t especially like her, especially how she treated Meghan, and that tracks with her having “concerns.” I can even see it playing out with her having “concerns,” talking to Harry, Harry blowing her off, and then Kate running to Charles to get him on her side.
Okay IJbOL @becks1 when you said that Kate should’ve just put the damn dress on charlotte. Yeah, she should’ve. And you could be right about the HRH’s for the kids. Idk, I’ve always suspected that when William is king he will write a new letters patent and strip the sussex kids of their titles. Will it be a v bad look for him? Sure but he he has few avenues left with which to punish Harry and he will take the ones available.
That would just make William look very petty, and as racist as his wife.
If William looks petty and vengeful he will get flak big time. Richard II did not hesitate to undercut his relatives and his cousin Henry ultimately deposed Richard and became King This could all backfire on William if he even tries.
But William IS petty and vengeful. I absolutely agree he would get flak and look petty and racist. I’m just saying William is ready to risk it all for another chance to punish Harry in some way😂. It’s about whether the people around him can talk him out of it.
Everything pointed to Kate as the racist — the way she thought she could order Meghan around over the bridesmaid dresses … her blatant flinching around people of color … her utter entitlement and white privilege. … her crack baby cocktails, even.
She’s a terrible person.
“I’ve also always thought that she and William were behind the whole “strip the children of their right to HRH when QEII dies” idea so that their children would be the only HRHs of that generation.”
I agree with @Becks1 on this point. Kate at least, clearly knew that she was having a boy months before George was born, yet apparently didn’t say a word, because William at one point said she knew but he didn’t. And so courtiers duly brief that the letters patent to make all of William’s children HRH right from the start was to prevent the possibility of the firstborn being a girl and being titled “Lady” while her younger brother would be HRH Prince. Without that decree by the queen, only George would have been HRH prince and the younger siblings would only have had their status changed when Charles became king. So I do think that the campaign to ensure that only their children would be HRH Prince/Princess began right there and then, but ramped up when it became clear that H would marry a black woman.
It is notable that for all the conversations of, “The royal family isn’t racist. They was just speculating about what the baby would like…” I’ve never once seen any royalist say that Harry and Megan made the entire conversation up. Everyone agrees that it did happen. They just disagree on the implications.
All of this could have been so easily avoided if they just apologized and promised to try to do better.
@Afken – I fail to understand why William is not going after Piers Morgan. After all, it was he who outed Kate as the Royal Racist, not Harry or Meghan.
William wouldn’t go after Piers because they are rewriting what happened by pretending that it was Meghan who revealed who the royal racists were. Besides, Piers once said that Harry should have married a quiet blonde from the UK like William told him to. I think that William was also leaking to Piers like Camilla was. There is a reason he took a photo at KP following the Oprah interview and said that there are royals who thanked him for standing up for them. His ties to William are just as strong as his ties to Camilla.
Piers probably has kompromat on William.
Hmm. Thx for the reminder about that Piers pic in front of KP. It does make me wonder why Piers outed Kate as the racist. Sure he blamed it on scobie but he amplified it. At that point though maybe they thought it was just better to get ahead of it. I can’t recall what all piers said but I’m sure he got the jump on framing it as innocent curiosity as opposed to actual concerns over an innocent baby’s skin color.
Yes, Piers is the elephant in the room that nobody wants to notice, and all the bad thoughts are directed at Harry and Meghan. He blabbed on TV and named the names.
Nerd, Chelsy was a blonde but not some passive Stepford. She made Kate look bad, she got a law degree , she did work and made Kate look even more lazy, waiting for the ring. It’s not only the “English rose” talk I think the royals resent proactive married ins. Chelsy was slammed on social media as not “being like” Kate. She was treated badly on social media by the Kate admirers
@Tessa – Cressida Bonas was the quiet blonde they wanted for Harry but she soon saw the light and ran for the hills.
Remember when Harry defined their relationship as “space?”
This line stands out re William: “Is this how he is going to rule the country?” Unless I’m mistaken, British monarchs no longer “rule” anything, but William is a child and I suppose they will have to tell him he is the ruler just so he doesn’t throw a tantrum.
When Will talked about peace in Middle East, some politicians there threw to his face that he first should make peace with his brother. I think, that is what they are talking about. He is gonna be the most senior representative of UK. Nobody will take his words about peace, leadership seriously when he can’t do what he says in his private life.
William will still be head of state and we’ve seen that the monarch can have a lot of influence. I think the point they’re making is that petty, ridiculous, obstinate (also, stupid, wrathful, punitive) are part of William’s character. They’re not just his reaction to Harry, they’re his reaction to everything. So, what kind of head of state will he be with a character like that?
Mark my words he’s going to sink the monarchy someday no matter how much he pulls the puppet-master strings of the tabloids and ROTA. It’ll blow his already inflated ego up to the point where it bursts and he’ll start getting ratted out by those he’s mistreated. He will prove himself as totally ineffectual at being head of state, military and the CoE no matter how much “global statesman” crap his courtiers push on the public. “Not My King” is spreading like a wildfire.
After pushing Harry and Meghan out of full time royal and rejecting his offer to retain some military royal duties , Charles, William and Kate should at least be happy . But they are not.
I think it’s because H&M continue to be successful, that success and public awareness is only growing. The more they achieve the more William resents and hates his brother.
Yep, it’s not enough for William and crew to have “won.” They wanted total scorched-earth, annihilated-from-history victory over H&M–and they are furious they can’t get that…
“leading to Kate being identified” sounds like an admission that the friends all knew who it was. The British people have the right to know.
She was very protected by the press. They bout her up as the good one in comparison to Meghan when her actions behind the scenes were not fitting that contrived binary.
Built her up*
Scobie stated that the press pack knew that it was Kate and Charles, years before it came out.
And yet that same press were constantly saying Kate never put a foot wrong. I’m sorry but having concerns about an unborn child’s skin tone is the definition of putting a foot way the f-ck wrong.
Kate was putting feet wrong for years. Like the runway model outfit, the roller derby party, the fashion “mishaps” on tours, and so on and so forth. Plus her not being able to conceal her true “mean girl” self
…or conceal her ass.
@Harla – I was surprised when Charles was named. I really thought it would have been Camilla.
I think based on the fact that Charles wrote to Meghan his racism might not have been as direct. I think if he just said something ignorant he probably wouldn’t have bothered to write to Meghan to explain himself. But Kate has remained silent. Because she is so insecure with her own class issues, just as converts are the most zealous, she probably was full racist Karen and so has kept quiet because there is nothing to say but apologize.
I wrongly assumed Kate was of a more modern generation and would not be racist. I guess Carole and Mike failed there too.
Everyone seems to be forgetting that Charles also was outed – along with Kate – as the Royal racists.
Which means it’s was probably Camilla and William honestly.
Friendly Crow, I think it was all four of them–and probably the rest of the family, too. I just don’t think everyone in the family had conversations with Harry about it.
@Saucy&Sassy – I imagine it was said behind Harry’s back and he got to hear of it from a third party.
I think that we have to stop using racism as a on-off identifier. It’s not as if one person is completely racist and the spouse is not. In race (and caste) ridden system/s, we are all complicit to varying extents.
I’d like to think I’m not racist, but I don’t think that’s true. There’s so much coding that we’ve all been subjected to (in movies, books, language, education) that unless we are aware of it and constantly sift at what is perpetuated around and within us, we are somewhere on the spectrum of prejudice ALL the time. It’s kind of simplistic to say ‘oh Kate and Charles are the racists’ like it’s not endemic to the very system they are in. And so many others, including India’s caste heirarchies, etc (my own legacy).
Sorry for the TED talk, but this approach jars on me…
I have always taken the “racist” term in this context to mean that Charles and Kate actually said something racist and it got back to Harry and Meghan. I am sure William and Camilla are racist too. William did his out of Africa party for his 21st birthday. That’s pretty racist too.
I could be wrong but I get the sense that Harry has moved on and is no longer interested in reconciling with his family.
I think you are right. He made the effort to visit his father in February and was met with what appears to be a cold shoulder. I think since then Harry has decided to focus on his American family/life. I expect if his father reached out Harry would respond but since that is not happening he is getting on with his life.
I think PH met with Charles as his father, but Charles hit him up with returning to royal “work” and dropping lawsuits and then has sulked ever since then when turned down.
It would not be impossible for Charles to publicly apologize to Harry, Meghan and the children. And ignore the tantrums of Huevo.
I dont think he is either. I think Spare and the interviews around there were his way of finding closure on that issue for himself.
I think if Charles called him and said “I love you and Meghan and the children and I made a mistake; please come visit me, security will be arranged like you had before, I want to see you at Sandringham and your brother won’t be there and there will be no press leaks” etc then Harry would agree to see him.
Or something. Basically I don’t think Harry and Meghan would ignore a genuine attempt by Charles to mend things, however that would present itself (and emphasis on “genuine.”) But I don’t think they’re holding their breaths at this point either and I think they’ve moved on.
The writer needs refresher courses. Slogging through the run-on sentences and nonsense is tedious.
William should never ever have not been allowed by the queen to try to bully harry into breaking up with Meghan. And she and Charles and the queen should have put a stop to the media attacks
That’s what always puzzles me. By all accounts – including Harry’s – he and the queen were quite close. How could she stay silent while her great-grandson Archie was being mocked as an ape? Why did she allow the rota to demonize and harass Meghan for YEARS? Where was Betty’s leadership in the face of all the ongoing tabloid abuse? Why didn’t she rein in Charles and William for the good of the Firm (if not for the sake of decency and righteousness)?
@Beverley: A friend I’ve been estranged from died. Her daughter told me I was mentioned in her will. I wrote back how her mum confounds me, even in death. Her daughter wrote back “She loved you, she just wasn’t great with conflict”. So this is how I think of the Queen. She loved Harry and Meghan, but she wasn’t great with conflict. Like my friend, she stuck her head in the sand and refused to see it was her own actions that fed our estrangement. Same w/the Queen. It was her own action/inaction that fed the trolls, her family’s grievances, real and imagined, and fueled the ongoing hatred via the rota. Yet my friend was a great person, loving and generous and thoughtful and smart and intelligent and so much more. But if conflict arose, it was always the other person’s fault. I think that’s also what the Queen thought.
I believe that the Queen genuinely loved Harry, Meghan, Archie and Lilibet and the courtiers, Charles and William kept certain things away from her. In Spare Harry made it seem as if there were several times where the Queen seemed to be unaware of what was being written in the papers or what was happening within her own family. I think about how Harry and Meghan were speaking with her while they were in Canada with Archie and she had invited them to come up to see her and spend the night whenever they returned to the UK. She went from having nothing on her calendar to being completely booked for the rest of the week and not being available until the following month. She was just the face of the monarchy and I think they were using her age to their advantage.
Wasn’t QEII always seen as conflict-avoidant? And basically, she always believed that the heirs should be protected at all costs. She saw her own sister (also a terrible person LOL) get eaten up by the royal machine, and she allowed it.
I have wondered for years how on earth QE II and Charles did not get William in hand years ago. I thought all of those special teas were supposed to be about training. It should of been abundantly clear to both of them that William needed psychiatric intervention.
There is nothing more obvious about needing mental health help than someone saying they are suicidal. Yet they denied help for Meg bc as the wife of the spare it would make the firm look bad. Do you really think they’d let the heir get help?
@Waterdragon William apparently learned about abdication at a young age & would remind anyone trying to curb his worst behavior that when it was “his turn,” he’d just abdicate? Wasn’t there a story about William when very young telling a classmate he’d throw the classmate in a dungeon when he became king? (Something like that.) The Queen knew Charles would suck & that William as Diana’s son would have the best chance to turn things around. At least that was the idea.
@Andromeda, humm, sounds like that would have been a good time for Granny to have turned him over her lap and given him a much needed spanking every time he tried to pull that. But after Watching “The Crown” all the way through several times, I suppose that would have been MUCH too hands on for her. Too bad she didn’t delegate to Philip, I am sure he could have handled it.
@Waterdragon Hmmm…I could see Philip packing William off to Gordonstoun the way he did Charles – if he’d had Charles & Diana’s approval to do so. It could have made Harry’s life at Eton a little easier too. But while he sent Charles there to “toughen him up’” sending William there would be “taking him down a peg” wouldn’t it?
It’ll always come back to both parties are wrong they need to get over it, because they don’t want to acknowledge that Harry and Meghan were right to be upset about the things that they were upset about. I feel like Harry is at the point now though where he knows he won’t ever get an apology from them. He may feel some sadness about his dad, but I legitimately don’t feel like he feels any real sadness about not speaking to William. From his own words they were never really that close, and William has demonstrably treated him pretty horribly in the last decade. William is the one losing out more on not having a relationship with Harry than Harry is in the reverse. Why would anyone want to come back and be beholden to someone who before they had complete control treated them absolutely horribly, refuses to take any accountability for their actions, and there’s always looking for a scapegoat? These media people are afraid that they may have to just actually criticize William at some point in the near future.
Hmm. So while I do think William isn’t speaking to him for all those reasons, Sykes is also leaving out a big part. The trial starts in January and it’s v possible that William is worried about what will come out. Considering the time pd, I would think Charles would have more concern but why I do think a lots also gonna come up about William in some of these emails.
Good point, Jais. I hadn’t thought about the upcoming trial lurking unsaid.
Each year they keep bringing up this will they won’t they reconcile for all sorts of events and it’s all a lot of hot air to fill pages, because nothing has changed. Not in this article by Sykes either, but it does sound like he’s losing patience with Huevo. As part of the aristo crowd, I’d love it if he started writing about what they all think (know) is going on.
It really does sound like Sykes is losing patience with William – especially the quote about how it looks like William refused to attend after hearing that Harry would make a – gasp – prerecorded video appearance.
I’m not sure if Sykes is especially invested in Harry returning as a working royal because he’s not someone who’s covering the daily engagements of the royals (so his clicks come from other types of stories, you know?) So this feels more like its coming from the aristo set, and that a lot of them are rolling their eyes at William and are exasperated with him, even if they also wish that Harry hadn’t married a Black American woman.
@becks1 why would the aristo set care at all? If anything it would give them to gossip about over dinner? I’m sure they think pegs is ridiculous, they probably have, but why would they go to Sykes about it?
I’m not sure what you mean. The aristos like to gossip and I can see this being something they gossip about and Sykes moves in those circles.
I believe Samuel Whiskers commented that eliminating the British monarchy would be difficult because Britain would have to form an entirely new government. So Republic has a long, difficult battle ahead, but the monarchy is distinctly less popular than it was.
Several weeks after I arrived in Europe and was traveling through France, I learned that German had a prince and nobility, because some prince pissed on a Turkish tent. I’d link it, but the BBC site (??) is not the usual BBC site and it’s not secure. Obviously, Germany isn’t a monarchy, so I was gobsmacked that there were still people with titles from there.
Anyway, perhaps the British aristocracy feel the effects of being connected to royalty that isn’t popular? I’m willing to bet something we don’t know about is going on which they dislike, and they’ve never been especially welcoming to Kate (the Great–remember that article?!).
To ML: when you said Germany had a prince, I had to smile.
You are talking about Prince Ernst August of Hanover, once married to Caroline of Monaco, and as German relative of the Windsors (they came from Hanover) he is somewhere deep down the LOS.
To the titels: when the monarchy was abolished after World War one, the titels became the names of the person. And as we had hundreds of small kingdoms we still have hundreds of Princes. Like a Prince of Prussia, who would be Kaiser today, a Prince of Bavaria etc. And even a Duke of Saxon-Coburg-Gotha.
I guess my thought on the trial is that: the pressure from the royals on Harry isn’t because anything specifically damaging will be revealed about them. But because the media knows that the trial will make THEM look bad and the media are threatening to remove all of the current perks and cancelled editorials and ridiculously positive coverage from the royals IF Harry isn’t stopped.
That’s a good shout, Scout- I think you’re absolutely on to something there.
I’m hoping it’ll reveal some stuff😂. But if it does, I bet it could get blamed on the courtiers. And yes, agree that the whole contract has strained the cozy relationship cultivated by William and Charles. Invitations to state dinners will not fix the fact that Harry is suing them.
@scout and Pegs isn’t giving them anything by was of distracting stories when emails do come out.
Or they are preemptively changing their tune on their pegs coverage so when the shady come out it doesn’t look sudden.
Harry said at the DealBook Summit that during the period of disclosure/discovery thats going on now for his April case coming up, he has been learning some things that he described as “troubling” but also “enlightening.” But he said the public needs to know about it.
I can only imagine what he is learning about the role his so-called family played in trying to destroy him and his little nuclear family.
Its either that the senior courtiers, in particular the Bee, the Wasp and the Fly (all of whom have scurried away, btw, which on its face is very interesting) have been operating without authorization from the monarch (as H has accused them of doing); or chucky has been signing off on proposals by the said senior courtiers that were designed to harm H.
Either way, it doesnt look good for the institution or for chucky and bully and I worry for H because I do believe that CRIMINAL MAFIA ORGANIZATION, known as The Firm, will do anything to preserve their facade, AS THEY HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST 1000 YEARS!!! Theyre not used to being thwarted. See: Diana.
@Kingston, I also worry for H but I think he knows what he is up against as a warrior and will ensure proper security and other measures. After closely watching “The Crown” all the way through several times, I totally agree with your assessment regarding “that CRIMINAL MAFIA ORGANIZATION, known as The Firm, will do anything to preserve their facade”. I have always thought they had Diana whacked.
Another thing that worries me is Charles’ saying that the public would not be concerned if something happened to Harry. (Can’t locate the exact quote.) That almost makes it sound like he is spinning an evil plot already.
Kate visibly in front of cameras was a mean girl to Meghan lunging at her. She gave herself away also snubbing Meghan and baby Archie and keeping her children from them
Kate or Catherine as she prefers to be called is very cruel jealous woman
Her behaviour towards Meghan when the four of them were walking around after QE2’s death showed her up alright and the way she went on in church was unforgivable
But the sycophants still regard her as some sort of saint. Very kind and gentle blah blah she is anything but
A very spoilt woman who does not like being knocked off her perch
“William’s stance has hardened, sources have told the Daily Beast, since one friend first told The Daily Beast that William “f***ing hates” his brother.”
So much empathy coming from William…
Btw can there be any doubt at this point that Tom Sykes’ source for lines like this is that rugby player?
@Blujfly – If you mean James Haskell, he’s actually on Team Harry believe it or not. They are old friends. He gave an interview recently where he said Harry was right to say what he did in Spare.
Isn’t William going to be head of the Anglican church?
With Christian values and forgiveness and all that?
It’s going to look bad.
Agree @Scout and KC who is head of church NOW and Harry’s dad, Meghan ‘s FIL and grandad to Archie and Lili STILL makes no effort to reconcile with them. K C has cancer; does he want to die estranged from them? I find it desperately sad that both Thomas and KC choose the Daily Fail etc over their own flesh and blood
William had a traumatic brain injury as a child. Adults who have had TBI can show depression, anger and other mood disturbances and difficulty regulating responses. ( my brother was hit by a car as a child, all these symptoms ring true )
William was a spoiled petulant bratty child before his injury.
Long before the supposed injury. Just out of curiousity, how come his hit to the head is now being called a traumatic brain injury? If I recall, he spent one night in the hospital. Calling it a TBI is relatively new and a little convenient.
Prince William had surgery for a skull fracture after being hit with a golf club. A traumatic blow to the head can result in traumatic brain injury effects even into adulthood. Not new news and not convenient perhaps but true.
William behaved badly prior to the hit in the head. It may have exacerbated it but he was a bratty little shit almost as soon as he came out of the womb. My late sister was a malignant narcissist from the minute she was born. My life growing up with her was like living with a terrorist because she was obsessively jealous of me and took all her anger out on me. It happens.
It’s an convenience cop-out to attribute Willy’s personality on one head trauma. Like others said here, he was a “spoiled petulant bratty child before his injury.” Sorry your brother’s injury was so severe & left an impact to him. But head trauma can & do recover with good medical treatments. The TBI cases we saw in Amercan football players (both pro & school level) were mostly because they did not give enough time for the brain to recover & repeated injuries. Also, scientifically speaking, which part of young Willy’s brain was hit? Different brain locations control different functions. Was it the the limbic system?
What I’m trying to say here is that all those aggressive, abused, violent people out there, not everyone is the result of physical brain trauma. (Some have mental or physical trauma, some learn to, and some are born this way.) Using one physical brain injury to explain away the next King of UK’s behavior is just giving him excuses to continue behaving this way (and not seeking treatments to change).
@Square2, I think Willam was hit in the left front forehead. The 2 inch or so scar used to show up in some photos. Is that the part of the brain that controls raging jealousy and out of control temper tantrums?
@WATERDRAGON. “The limbic system, which includes structures like the amygdala and hippocampus, is a group of interconnected structures located deep within the brain. It’s the part of the brain that’s responsible for behavioral and emotional responses.”
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/24894-amygdala
“The left frontal lobe is primarily responsible for controlling language-related functions, including speech production, understanding language, and formulating thoughts into words.”
“The right frontal lobe primarily functions in processing non-verbal information, spatial awareness, emotional regulation related to negative emotions like fear and disgust, and plays a key role in novel situation assessment, often considered as a part of “executive function” alongside other cognitive abilities like planning and decision-making.”
However, “Some researchers emphasize that this rule is not absolute and that with many people, both lobes are involved in nearly all behavior.”
So yes, his brain injury could’ve left some impacts on Willy, but it couldn’t be the SOLE reason for his temperament, since he was already aggressive before the incident.
I will say this, I’m not American but Asian, and I love the Sussex family. I think William got mad that Kate was ousted as racist because people may wonder if his children have those thoughts as well and many question his choice of wife. Again this is not diss to white women, but many white women are behind most racist things and hide behind womanhood. Like Trump won three times with most white women, Kate might be a covert Tory supporter and I’m sure her children are thought to look down on Sussex.
Beast that many in William and Kate’s circle believe that by telling Oprah Winfrey on TV that somebody or some people had made racially insensitive comments, Harry and Meghan set in train a series of events that would inevitably ultimately lead to Kate being identified.
Heh, they aren’t denying it, eh? If I laugh, I die.
Exactly. They know it is true.
Oh, so now it’s a “family argument”? Before, wasn’t it treason against the throne? Ok then, what exactly was the family argument?
I commented a few years ago that William should have, at least publicly, made up with Harry and Meghan. He could have taken all of the credit for being the ‘bigger person’. I’m sure someone has advised him to do this, no? It would have been wonderful publicity for William that the rota would have kept going for years. Instead, he has enjoyed wallowing in his grievances. QEII and KCIII have always cared how history will see him, William not so much.
I don’t think he has anyone left in his orbit that would advise him of something they know he doesn’t want to do.
I think, isolating Harry was the pressure strategy to force him to drop the media lawsuits. Both Charles & Will can’t make peace with Harry publicly while he is suing their media partners. The main narrative is, Harry is alone, has no credibility as a victim of the UK media organizations’ crimes.
I think a lot of us who are older all know a couple like William and Kate. He treats her terribly, she is nasty to other people. Deeply toxic and codependent. But when an outsider gives the husband an “opportunity” to defend his wife or for the toxic abusive couple to unite against an outsider, they’ve never been happier. That’s why William is only doubling down. He gets to perform that he’s protecting Kate and only he gets to treat his wife terribly.
I’d put money on William making retroactive changes to the George V Letter’s Patent so Archie and Lily lose their Prince and Princess titles by removing the “grandchildren of the monarch” stipulation, effective for the descendants of Charles III which wouldn’t change Beatrice and Eugenie’s status, nor the Wessex children (they have never used their entitlement to the titles so it would have no effect on them whatsoever).
I just said the same upthread. I can see it and I’m betting Harry and Meghan wouldn’t be surprised at this point. The only thing I wonder is would that affect Louis’ children? As in whether his potential kids would get titles. Not sure I’m getting that right. But I’m sure they could find some sort of loophole that just targets the Sussex kids if they really wanted.
I don’t think he has the authority to take back titles like that. Some right-wing politicians wanted to make a legislation to give that power to Charles and he rejected the idea reportedly. Also, they couldn’t find many supporters of such change.
BRF’s plan was, they would tell reporters H&M rejected titles for their children (they were already leaking that idea from royal sources), then Charles would change the George V Letter’s Patent when he became the King. QE2 probably didn’t sign up on that plan, so Charles was waiting to be the King to make the change. Since H&M told the whole story, there is no way Charles or Will can make that change when it comes to H&M’s children.
It’s not in William’s purview to do that. It has to be approved by Parliament, the House of Lords and some other committee, and would be a long, drawn-out process of multiple readings that would create precedents affecting others in the BaRF like Eugenie and Bea’s titles as well as their children’s. By the time Slumlord Bill takes over he will have proved that he’s utterly incapable of being the monarch and making daft changes like that.
William can’t do this alone. He has to have the approval of Parliament. A Labor lead government. Removing titles of the first mixed race children without removing Beatrice and Eugenie Prince Andrew’s children would set off a firestorm. Labor won’t touch this with a ten foot pole. Imagine what that would say to your mixed race, black and POC subjects. We don’t want you to have the title of Prince and Princess because you are not white and worthy of the titles. Yes the racist may like it but do they want to be identified with them. They are already receiving backlash from Kate’s reported references to Archie skin color allegedly. This would be disastrous for them.
Okay yeah the parliament approval thing is an issue. So for sure a new letters patent needs parliamentary approval? It’s just weird bc someone was def telling Meghan that they were going to write a new LP for Archie. She wasn’t making that up in the Oprah interview. So whoever was telling her that was just talking out of their ass and trying to scare her?
@Jais, Charles said that to H&M, when he is the King (which would be the time H&M’s children gain their titles since they would be the grandchildren of the monarch), he is gonna change the rule. So, their children wouldn’t get the titles. My guess is, QE2 didn’t agree with that, otherwise they could change it when she was the monarch. So, they had to wait. They were also leaking through royal sources that H&M don’t want their children to get the titles. So, they were already preparing the public for the change. Of course, Oprah interview ruined their narrative. So, Charles couldn’t do sh*t.
Ah okay thank u, I was forgetting things. So the plan was to tell the press that Harry and Meghan didn’t want titles and write a new LP as if they were following the Sussexes wishes. Betting that the Sussexes would stay silent. But they didn’t, so the plan, whether it was King Charles or a one day king William, became moot.
@Jais, yeah the ironic part is, if they really protected H&M, they wouldn’t leave and there would be no Oprah interview. Both H&M would go along with the narrative that it was their decision and they are ok with it. Charles & Will never thought H&M would have the freedom and the platform to tell the truth.
If it were done now and made retrospective it would take away the titles of Beatrice, Eugenie, and Charlotte and Louis wouldn’t get theirs back until William became King. They like Archie and Lilibet are the grandchildren of the King, George would be the only one to keep his as the heir to the heir.
They could specify that it only applied from the descendants of Charles III onwards, so B & E could keep their Princess styles. William’s kids would be easily grandfathered in until his Kingship by specifying that all the children of the Prince of Wales are entitled to the style of Prince or Princess.
Sickeningly, limiting the style of Prince or Princess to the children of the monarch and the children of the Prince of Wales (and possibly also the children of the first born son of the Prince of Wales) could quite easily be spun as modernizing the monarchy, ‘a fresh new take for the modern age’. Ick.
There are two parts to Harry’s title. The Duchy of Sussex was given to him by the Queen and it cannot be removed unless Parliament agrees to do it. Outside of committing treason, there is no reason to remove it. And when you have Andrew Duke of York in the mix, it looks even worse.
Harry’s HRH is through convention and those of his children through the letters patent of George V. In theory William as monarch could revise the letters patent in terms of who gets the HRH and who doesn’t, but again the last time HRHs were removed was during World War I when the German cousins were at war against Britain.
William, targeting Harry and his children, who would be the only ones with right to the HRH, would look extremely unstable and foolish if he did this. He would have to remove the HRH from everyone outside of his children for it to make any sense. If William wanted to accelerate the demise of the monarchy, this would be a way to do it.
Also it would take any titles for the Middletons off the table.
Isn’t it convenient that Bone Idle is taking all of the flack for being racist, but King Snubby isn’t mentioned in the same vein?
Frankly, I have no doubt that all of the brf are racist. If anyone thinks that the Escort gets a pass here as well as Billy Idle, think again.
We don’t know who first raised the subject, I suspect that Kate gets all the flack because she is seen as a rival to Meghan, or from the DMs point of view, Meghan is Kate’s rival because she is better at the job, harder working and prettier than Kate. Ooops!
“Isn’t it convenient that Bone Idle is taking all of the flack for being racist, but King Snubby isn’t mentioned in the same vein?”
Probably because Charlie has written to Maghan after the Oprah interview to discuss this skin color “concerned” issue; while the other person never reached out to Maghan. The content of these letters was leaked from someone, who have read the letters, to the RR & beyond. So, Charlie at least was willing to talk to Meghan about it and Kitty never did.
That’s not to say the BRF is not racist, they still are.
I think that’s a good point. There was an attempt at dialogue from Charles side? But also I think maybe there were just higher expectations for the younger generation. William and his wife are the future and people expected more from them. Plus Charles’ character is already stained from cheating on Diana. Kate really didn’t have any massive public or global stains until this.
He looks that way because he IS that way. He never grew up emotionally.
William will never forgive Harry because William’s aim in life is to have all the privileges, money and deference without doing the work. Harry, who always had a better work ethic than William, allowed William to pursue his lazy ways. And Kate is just as lazy. Harry and Meghan dove right in as a team from day one. Kate and William, now in their forties, are just beginning to “figure things out.” Harry and Meghan made William and Kate’s life harder and made it more obvious how lazy and useless they are. Throw in the biracial “angle,” and that’s that. I mean, how dare a biracial woman and a second son make the Golden Boy and his wife look bad?
A former staffer who worked with both brothers says: “It’s extraordinary how what was essentially a family argument has got completely out of proportion and is now causing immense damage not just to Harry’s reputation, but also to the king, who looks weak for not being able to crack his sons’ heads together, and the future king, William, who looks petty and ridiculous. Whether or not it is the case, it looks very much like William refused to attend the awards after hearing Harry was making a video appearance. Is this how he is going to rule the country?” Wow, just wow! Somebody is being truthful at last. William being the instigator in preventing a reconciliation between Harry and KCIII, I can believe too. What a vile person he is. He is not fit to be king.
At this point, I think Harry has reconciled with the fact that his Father will die, never knowing his grandchildren or his youngest son and he is okay with it. I also think Harry no longer gives a flying f**K about William and is content to never speak to him again if he doesn’t have to. William is just mad that his brother peaced out and he can’t use him to cover his laziness anymore.
Charles should want to get to know Meghan his daughter in law also
KFC doesn’t even want to get to know his son(s), why would he want to get to know his DIL(s)?
@Tessa – agree, Charles should want to get to know his daughter-in-law Meghan. I do wonder sometimes if behind the scenes he actually did, but any friendship is/has been kept totally secret. It’s what I’d like to think anyway.
Maybe if Harry goes to William’s Coronation William will stay home and skip the whole thing?
That was funny.
If William is really using his influence to stop a reconciliation between father and son that is a very sad reflection on his character.
Harry said in the Oprah interview – ”about the relationship with my brother: – SPACE.” (widening hand gesture).
He said that he would try to rebuild the relationships with his father, but he didn’t want to have anything to do with that spyco brother of his. I don’t think much has changed in his position regarding Willy.
As I said before in a previous CB blog – what is going on here is that Prince Harry was the one who first dumped William in front of a worldwide audience of 17+ million (the number of worldwide viewers in the first two days of the Oprah interview). That is what Willy can’t stand, that is what hurt him deeply, the public humiliation by the spare. That was never supposed to happen, big sin. And since then he has been barking and breefing his friends in the media in the UK and USA that he is the one who broke off all contact with Harry.
*briefing
I think even if the Oprah interview, Spare, and the Netflix series hadn’t happened, William would still be mad. He was so angry at Harry for up and leaving the UK and leaving him all alone and I think he would still be refusing to speak to his brother even if he had stayed silent. Thanks to Harry, we know William flies off the handle at the stupidest thing such as being mad at Harry for having a beard at his wedding or fighting with Harry over charity initiatives. It’s his default response to anything.
There used to be a sweet little kitty named Billi (that really was the cat’s name, complete coincidence given it’s a nickname for William lol) on social media who communicated with her owner via the popular buttons some dogs use (@BilliSpeaks). Billi recently died but her favorite button to press was mad and it reminds me of William just pressing the same button over and over: “Mad.” “Mad.” “Mad.”
Harry hasn’t dropped his demand for an apology, he’s simply given up on the idea that one will be forthcoming from his racist family.
Kate’s attitudes & behavior are typical of many middle-class kids whose parents escalate to nouveau riche. Her bump to wife of a royal sealed her sense of superiority & entitlement, which were certainly encouraged & driven by Carole. With a different mother, Kate might have turned out to be a better person.
Oh well, Willie’s stuck with her for the time being & Kate will do her best to foster his hate for H & M.