Robert Kennedy Jr.’s anti-vaccine advocacy has already killed 83 people in Samoa, but he’s going to kill so many Americans as Donald Trump’s Secretary of Health and Human Services. Between his anti-vaccine views, his love of raw milk and raw meat, and the fact that a brain worm ate part of his brain, Kennedy will be one of the most dangerous men in America. And that’s saying something. While Kennedy has not been confirmed for HHS, he’s already making moves to… revoke approval of the polio vaccine.
President-elect Donald Trump has praised the polio vaccine as the “greatest thing,” but a lawyer affiliated with Trump’s pick to lead the country’s top health agency has petitioned the US Food and Drug Administration to revoke approval of the vaccine used in the United States.
The lawyer, Aaron Siri, filed the petition in 2022 on behalf of the Informed Consent Action Network, or ICAN, a nonprofit that challenges the safety of vaccines and vaccine mandates. Siri has been working closely with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. – a vaccine skeptic and Trump’s pick to lead the US Department of Health and Human Services – to choose officials to serve in the incoming administration. He was also Kennedy’s personal lawyer during his own presidential campaign.
“The FDA is continuing to review the petition,” an agency spokesperson said in an email to CNN on Friday. “We cannot predict when the reviews will be completed. The FDA will consider the concerns outlined in the petition as a final decision is made. The FDA will respond directly to the petitioner, and that response will be posted on the docket. Until such time, we cannot comment further.”
If Kennedy is confirmed as head of HHS, he’ll oversee the FDA and could take the rare step of intervening in its petition review process. In a recent interview, Kennedy told NBC News that he wasn’t going to take away anybody’s vaccines but said, “People ought to have a choice, and that choice ought to be informed by the best information.”
So, that’s where we are at this point. An anti-vaxxer at HHS who is so f–king stupid, he wants to revoke approval for the polio vaccine. Honestly, if they go straight for polio, it would surprise me. I figured they would go straight for the MMR (measles, mumps & rubella) vaccine, which is what American kids get before entering school. I also think one of the first vaccine items on their agenda will probably be the HPV vaccine, don’t you think? But going straight for polio is wild.
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I had polio in 1950 when I was 4 and I wish this crowd could spend one week living in my body. The post polio problems are excruciating.
@pat goddess we have a family member who has been in profound chronic pain for almost 20 years with post polio. Sending lots of love your way and the best pain management possible.
My older brother had it at that same time. He spent months in a polio ward and made best friends with the boys on either side of his bed. One died and the other was dismissed from the hospital, only to return in worsened condition. My brother was lucky. He had therapy after coming home and recovered. But all those lonely little boys, crying in pain and for their parents, were a lasting memory for my mother.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I think Gen x and younger have no clue of what these diseases can do. My parents are boomers and most of the vaccines didn’t exist when they were kids. They had the small pox vaccine but nothing existed for the rest and so they know people who have been affected by polio, one or two of them died as kids. We are going backward with this nonsense.
It’s one thing to not want to covid vaccine, but the polio and MMR ones have been around for half a century. They are proven to be successful.
Also many don’t realize that because polio was significantly reduced by the vaccine, few current doctors even know how to treat it.
And guess what? There was autism back then too. It just hadn’t been named at the time. So getting rid of vaccines won’t do a darn bit of good. There are risks with them, yes, but getting the illness that they protect you from is way worse and impacts many more people including people who have little to no protection through no fault of their own (think infants and immune compromised individuals).
I’m sorry you had it and that it seems this might happen again.
I agree with @Nic919 – I think a lot of this is because people have forgotten what these diseases can do. They think measles is just some spots on the skin, or that chicken pox is just itchy, or that whooping cough is just a bad cough. they don’t realize how horrible these diseases can be and how lucky we are that we do have these vaccines.
Anyway as Kaiser said starting with polio is a wild choice, even though this petition was filed in 2022, since Mitch McConnell had polio and I can’t see him being on board with a HHS leader who wants to get rid of that vaccine.
My father also contracted polio in 1950 (upstate NY perhaps?). All my life i watched him deal with mobility issues, accessibility issues, pain, decline. The cancer that finally killed him…we didn’t catch in time because he chalked it up to Post Polio Syndrome. RFKjr is dangerous.
@Pat G: My mother-in-law also suffered with the lasting effects of Polio. I hated it for her, and I hate it for you. Wishing you comfort –
Pat my brother also contracted polio in the 1950s just as the vaccine was coming out, but my parents were living in the Far East and it was not available. He has been in a wheelchair all his life, and now in his 70s his life is becoming almost impossible. Throughout his life he has suffered… but to be fair all of our family were affected. The thought that this vaccine may not be available in the richest country in the world makes me feel physically sick. It is an absolutely horrible disease which is avoidable… I am just horrified and in shock.
When I said “these idiots are going to bring back polio, “ I didn’t mean it as a challenge. 🤷🏻♀️
Make polio great again! ?
Even Israel stopped bombing Gaza for a few days so teams could vaccinate the children in the camps for polio. That’s how important it is.
This is because polio can take as little as 6 months to make a comeback in areas without herd immunity. It’ll be a shitshow.
I’m 75 so I actually remember when the polio vaccine became available to the public following FDA approval. I was 4 or 5. It was a bfd and absolutely no one questioned its safety or efficacy. Jonas Salk was a hero. I suppose the FDA has to go through the regular process in reviewing this lunatic’s petition. But SMDH. Seventy years have passed since we all marched to the public vaccination sites and got our shots. Polio has been eradicated in all the places where the vaccine is available. I only wish the MMR vaccine had been available when I was a child. I got all three of those very unpleasant, dangerous diseases. 🥺
My mother is 82 and remembers being lined up in her NYC public school for the polio vaccine. Every kid in the school, no questions asked, no pushback from parents (many of whom either had polio themselves or had family members who’d had it).
She had COVID before the vaccine was developed and barely survived. She couldn’t understand why people were refusing it when it did come out.
My mother is a few years younger but she got three types of measles as a kid and for one of them she had lost a lot of her hair. It was not a fun experience. So when MMR was available for her kids, she was not going to mess around.
Also people don’t realize that one of the measles can affect pregnant women and cause them to miscarry. With measles being so contagious, this is going to cause more issues.
Look up the consequences of a woman catching Rubella during pregnancy. It is literally a horror list of outcomes for the foetus, and in this ever threatening world of anti abortion these poor children will be born to live with the choices of these unqualified buffoons. Welcome to Trump’s world! Is this what you wanted?
I agree, those vaccines need to still be used. Esp with all the millions of Illegals that have poured into the country. Some are bringing all types of diseases, that we need to be prepared from. I’m 73 and remember getting the polio and small pox Vax in grade school. I think the main thing RFKjr is referring to is, all the multiple vax’s given at one time together. Those are the ones concerning Autism. I have a friend who is suffering from polio, now in a wheelchair in constant pain. However, forcing people to Covid Vax is just wrong. We have the right to refuse any “product” put into our bodies, but polio and MMR has been proven effective.
This is a reply for Terry because there is misinformation in your comment that needs correcting.
The “multiple vaccines” given at once are not an issue. And they do not lead to autism. They are not associated with autism in any way.
Many many studies and reviews provide clear evidence that grouped vaccines do not lead to autism.
A meta-analysis involving over 1.25 million children and additional case-control studies found no link between childhood vaccinations, including MMR, and autism or autism spectrum disorders (ASD).
The World Health Organization and other health agencies have also concluded that there is no association between vaccines and autism.
Furthermore, a Danish study involving over 650,000 children showed no increased risk of autism from the MMR vaccine, even among high-risk groups.
Additionally, the notion that illegal immigrants bring new diseases into the U.S. is largely a myth.
Studies and reports indicate that there is no substantial evidence showing migrants spread diseases in the U.S.
While immigrants and refugees may carry certain infectious diseases like tuberculosis (TB) or hepatitis, public health measures such as screenings and vaccinations are in place to mitigate these risks.
The CDC and other agencies implement rigorous health protocols to prevent the spread of communicable diseases among immigrants and refugees entering the U.S.
No one was forced to get the COVID vaccine. No one was jailed or fined for not getting it.
Vulnerable people in the community deserve the protection of herd immunity and when the pandemic was at its height economies and hospital systems risked collapse unless the spread of the disease was slowed and some level of herd immunity was achieved.
Stop spreading misinformation
@terry. Fastest growing sectors of the population with diseases of this seriousness are actually mid to upper class white communities where it’s in fashion to not get vaccines because of holistic practices. Nothing against those choices. It’s their children. But it kind of smacks of calling immigrants, documented, or undocumented vermin. Also, my best friend‘s husband works at Merck pharmaceuticals and is himself extremely conservative. When Covid was happening, he said the science is very clear that the vaccine is safe. all my friends that are nurses said that all the anti-VAX people pleaded for the treatments when they came into the hospital dying from Covid, even though those were manufactured by the exact same companies and often with the same base technology.
@Terry, your comment is mostly MAGA nonsense. First of all, people aren’t “illegal”. Secondly, millions aren’t “pouring over the border”. Thirdly, dark-skinned foreigners are not contagious—you’re more likely to catch an infection from a diehard RFK, JR. antivaxxer, than an undocumented migrant. We put up with a lot of BS, on this site, but not the racist kind. And, lastly, vaccines don’t cause autism. That’s been well debunked.
The HPV vaccine isn’t as well-understood by the general public as as the others so it’s particularly vulnerable. Plus it’s about women’s health so that alone makes it a target. But to ban polio or MMR, my god what a disaster. These idiot men are who half the voters asked for.
When we first had our son, and everyone was mentioning the HPV vaccine, I admit I was confused. Not opposed to it, but confused. Wondering why I would give such a young child a vaccine against something that is most often transferred by sexual contact. And then I worked for sexual assault agency and learned the very hard truth that one and four girls and one and six boys will experience sexual violence before the age of 18. Kids don’t always get the choice about what happens to their body. That sobered me right up. Also, RFK has definitely had the polio vaccine given his age. So he can stand around while other people get it and not worry. Finally, as a mother of an autistic child, i get so frustrated about the misinformation on vaccines. I can go all the way back to my grandfather, who never had contact with vaccines and died recently at almost 99 years old and he was definitely autistic. He just got called “strange”. My dad is definitely autistic. I definitely have a lot of of the signs and my son is. It is a different way of functioning in the world and the sooner we start to normalize neurodiversity as a society, the better off we will be. There are early interventions that can be done to help mitigate some of the symptoms, but we actually did a very slow roll on vaccines in our family, and he clearly had very specific markers of someone on the spectrum before he could even sit up. Like organizing everything in meat, tidy rows and by color and by shape and fixations on ceiling fans. Misinformation gets us nowhere.
HPV vaccines aren’t given to babies. Between 9 and 12 is the recommended age. Never ever heard of any baby getting or toddler getting it
Children aren’t eligible for the HPV vaccine series until they are 11 or 12. It’s not something an infant would get. They’re not given to “such a young child” they’re given to children on the cusp of or currently going through puberty. Both of my sons received it and the pediatrician said very few parents of boys opt for it because it’s considered a female problem so parents don’t care as much. I just don’t understand how a mom wouldn’t care about women’s health.
I think this is what makes this cabinet candidacy fail. Mitch McConnell had polio and I think he and a couple of the GOP physicians will sink RFKs candidacy. They will do it by using this and saying he’s too pro-choice for them. I think Orange Julius isn’t quite as powerful as he believes!
Ah, I thought going after polio was a way to attack the Evil Turtle. It’s a way to test if Agent Orange has complete control of the Republiscums.
Murmurings that RFK Jr’s positions/proposals on BigAg, Factory Farming, & reducing the abundance of fast/junk food* has won the hearts & minds of a few Dems & Indps. McConnell might need to expand the # of Rs needed to sink this nomination.
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*Though that HappyMeal photo above is a *big* hint that he may not be immune to pressure from the fast/junk food lobbyists. Dems would do well to remember how that brigade reacted to Michelle Obama’s healthy kids initiative, essentially altering her script to CICO &: Everyone just needs to move more…get some exercise.
What they are going to do is remove the vaccine requirements for public school / state universities. We will see a resurgence of now rare childhood disease. In NY we saw the impact of anti science rhetoric when measles spread through an Orthodox community that doesn’t vaccinate. I am so glad my kids are grown.
I’m old enough to remember going to school with kids in leg braces and using crutches due to polio. My best friend’s older sister was in a wheelchair due to polio. We don’t see this anymore because of the vaccine. Now that people have elected this lunatic, this could come back. God help us all.
My grade 3 teacher had polio, and was on crutches. My uncle is infertile due to having mumps. I can’t believe people want to go back to that.
I had an uncle who was infertile due to mumps as well. I’ve been waiting for RFK Jr to mention pulling it to see how guys react to that.
My Grade 5 teacher had polio as a child and had a wasted and paralyzed right arm as a result. I remember her telling us that she had to re-learn how to write and use her left arm for everything due to the effects of the disease. The sooner everyone realizes that RFK Jr is a dangerous and vile crank, the better everyone will be. Has the AMA said anything about this threat to public health?
Kennedy reminds me of the clueless sovereign citizens who refuse to get driver’s licenses. Strange and arrogant. Those morons continuously lose out in traffic stops. Scary to have a weirdo like Kennedy in such a position of authority.🥴
Im a year old today, and I learned that in Western countries polio vaccines are taken in the form of injections whereas still in my country oral vaccines are given, even in vaccines how is the world so racist to people of color?
pumpkin, when I was about 6-7, I the polio vaccine at school and it, too, was oral. If I remember correctly, we had to have 3 rounds of the vaccine. They put it on sugar cubes to make it go down better. I have no idea what the difference is between oral or shots.
Polio has been present in the US in a very small cluster or two (NY comes to mind). I think I read that if I was exposed that I would need a new vaccination. I’m in my late sixties now and would not hesitate to get another vaccination.
The only thing I can think of is that the Oligarchs of this country want to flood hospitals with preventable diseases. I wonder why?
“The only thing I can think of is that the Oligarchs of this country want to flood hospitals with preventable diseases. I wonder why?”
Dunning-Kruger effect, maybe? They all think they’re experts and know everything. I also think it’s part of the “things were better back then, take America back to the good old days” mentality. But also, many of them are really, really stupid and callous. It’s a bad combination.
Pumpkin, oral polio vaccine is actually better than the one given by injection, as it prevents person to person spread.
And it’s easier to distribute due to the way of application, as volunteers or minimally trained health workers can take vials with the vaccine in it and administer it in hard to reach areas.
The other difference is that the injectable vaccine is the inert virus and the oral vaccine is the mildly active virus. The inert virus is used in areas that have a very low risk of polio.
My dad caught polio when he was three, alongside his brother and his sister. He spent three years in a hospital in an out of an iron lung, before having to wear leg braces upon his release and eventually ending up in a wheelchair full time due to Post Polio Syndrome which, by the way, is a degenerative syndrome that effects people with polio years after their initial infection (gee, I wonder if something similar will pop up years from now after any other recent illnesses everyone we know caught…).
He died at 67 after catching pneumonia. His lungs had been permanently scarred by the polio.
Oh, and by the way – my mother is anti vaccine. She was married to him for 25 years. I have no words for her or any of these other idiots.
the FDA is an internationally revered standard.
Giving someone the power to change & revoke things may switch that reference to the EMA…
I’m a public health nurse in Canada and this *always* spills over the border. I am so so tired of this nonsense.
I think we need to mandate certain vaccinations before we let Americans across. We do it for immigrants, but if basic protections are going to be ignored, it’s time to restrict access to our border.
I would not be surprised if we go back to this, like what was done during the pandemic – an immunization card to get into certain countries.
Nic919, I’m American, but that was my first thought, too. Canada and other countries need to require vaccinations to get into their country. There’s absolutely no need to spread preventable diseases elsewhere.
@Elaine, and our next PM will be Poilievre, so yes, all this bullshit is coming for us. Poilievre fully supported that crazy trucker convoy. We probably won’t go as far as the US, but I wouldn’t be surprised if under Poilievre, mandatory vaccinations for school-aged children are revoked.
I’ve been a registered nurse for twenty-seven years. My colleagues and I have zero experience in treating the polio patient. The only thing we were taught in nursing school (in the mid 90’s) is how the disease largely no longer exists due to the vaccine. That’s it. Those nurses and doctors with treatment experience are retired or dead.
I second this. I had to find a physician with familiarity in treating polio for a legal claim because post polio syndrome was involved and I was having a hard time searching throughout North America. Even the older physicians only ran into it when they were students decades ago. This was about ten years ago too.
Both of these idiots have lived long enough to know people actually affected by polio. What the hell is wrong with them? The extended Kennedy family must be cringing so hard over this AH. I know I must have gotten the MMR vaccine as a child but I’m going to get another, just in case. Before this cursed administration decides to revoke it as well. Heaven help us.
Idiots is right! They ignore anything that doesn’t agree with their pet crankpot theories. Things like actual scientific data, pictures of children in braces or iron lungs, horror stories of women who contracted rubella while pregnant, on and on. They are willfully blind to proven facts.
I’m so tired of this and the stupid one isn’t even in office yet. Let’s put all the MAGA adults together in one state (I’ll sacrifice Florida) and let them lead the feral lives they want – no vaccines, only raw milk, no OSHA or FDA or public services, no contraception or other health care, and crypto as the only currency. Make them stay for four years. No travel out of the state allowed. Let’s see how long they last. Oh, and Elon,Vivek, Ted, all the Trumps have to live there.
And no FEMA, of course — since that would be a “Communist” use of resources contributed by the rest of us, right?
I’m on the fence. Which should I be reading first: Lord of the Flies, Handmaid’s Tale, 1984… or something else?
FDR was stricken with polio and worked tirelessly to help patients and find a cure (via March of Dimes). Finally there was a vaccine. It was so horrific for patients back then, this would undercut all the work of scientists and charities and the fight against polio.
We Americans have been living essentially preventable disease-free for decades. No one, especially these anti-vaccine nut jobs, has “seen” any evidence of these diseases for themselves. Covid patients were kept inside hospitals for weeks/months and were largely “invisible” that way. Just wait until people see their kids covered in rashes, pustules and lumps. Limbs twisted by polio. It’s tragic that they are willing to sacrifice the health of themselves and their kids to make some kind of point. I’m glad Gaza was mentioned because it only took a short time for polio to surge.
Just me or is RFK Jr looking more and more like Sean “Hamface” Penn?
I mean Legionnaires disease is back, why not polio, MMR, etc. They all assume they are immune and heck, not like the Senate/Cabinet/Congress have to worry about high deductibles, out of pocket , etc. thanks to their great healthcare.
A coworker used to be social friends with RFK Jr and his late first wife. Said he was always a horndog loon. He gets far more credit for River Keepers than deserved; yes, Kennedy name opened doors for funding but the cofounders were the real brains behind it.
I studied alternative medicine, and most of my teachers came from India. Many of my classmates were anti-vax. They would ask about vaccines during class, and our teachers immediately said, ‘Why would you not vaccinate against a preventable disease that is not 100% eradicated in the rest of the world?’ No questions, no equivocating, just do it. Enough said—we are not talking about whether or not to get a flu vaccine one year. This is serious stuff.
My first great grandchild is coming in January. I told my granddaughter to make sure the baby gets all his shots on time because of the possibility the requirements for school would change. Luckily they have already discussed it and will be following the Dr’s recommendations.
So, the plan is to get rid of common vaccines, crater Medicare, Medicaid and the ACA — while simultaneously hampering the ability of physicians and other health care providers to practice and to exercise their professional skills as they have been trained to do.
I’ve spent a lot of time in school systems with special education programs — including hospital based instruction and home based programs— that I assume will be impacted by the changes planned for the Department of Education. So the numbers of critically ill and chronically ill kids will be increasing even as resources to support them will be getting phased out.
What exactly is the long game here?
Chaos and confusion for the masses while the wealthy plunder and hoard money, land, and resources.
Exactly what I’m wondering.
I have … no words. I’m in Texas and I am prepared for this to be Ground Zero for Trump’s odious, experimental policies. I read an article where Texas Governor Greg Abbott (barf) represented that Trump told him that Texas would not be bound by any EPA regulations (double barf).
We’re cooked and I feel nothing at this point.
I swear these idiots want to remove any and all advancements this country has ever made with their stupid race to the bottom!
The cancer cell line of Henrietta Lacks, a Black woman who died of cervical cancer in the 1950s, revolutionized medical research and was used to develop the polio vaccine. Her cell line is still being used in biomedical research and has made many significant contributions to medicine over the decades. Im Gen X and found her story to be truly fascinating and the fact that so many companies have made millions upon millions of dollars selling her cells while her family hasn’t is so tragic but not surprising. The book “The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks” is excellent and Oprah also made a movie with the same name (I didn’t watch the movie).
I hope Jonas Salk’s ghost pushes them down a flight of stairs.
In 2006, I took a trip to India and met a young man who’d had polio. I’m ashamed to admit I’d had no idea polio was still something people got because it had been all but eradicated in my lifetime. I remember thinking how unfair it was that this man was needlessly afflicted with something that we’ve had a vaccine for. I felt simultaneously grateful for being vaccinated and embarrassed at my own ignorance.
And now here we are…rolling out the red carpet for polio’s return.
He’s following the republican playbook. Be loud about the scariest thing and get people in a panic but then execute something less than and too many people go phew. It’s the boiling frog method. Over the coming years they’ll slowly chip away one by one.
I will never forget when Jenny McCarthy was on her vaccines causes autism parade. She was on Larry King defending her platform with three doctors on the panel.
One Doctor held up a list of vaccines and asked her directly. OK, from this list which one do you think we can remove?
She seemed hesitant but went for it and picked one of them. He said congratulations! you just introduced X disease back into the world. Oh, that was a great moment. You could see how mad she was being trolled like that. And in case anyone does not already know. Jenny was basing everything on junk science from a discredited Doctor.
Junior is going to kill us all while he sits safe in his Kennedy Kooky Kompound.
Just as Trump is orange, I think RFK Jr. is also turning another color. Caramel? It would be great if each Cabinet member spontaneously changes color: green for Musk for his greed, etc. It will be like a rainbow administration, but with none of the warm feelings and hope for a better world, of course.
I am so sick of seeing that ugly fcukers face. This country makes me sick allowing this know nothing to try and shape health for our future.
In 1955 some live polio vaccine doses were accidentally administered, affecting 220,000 people, killing ten. Before you think this is an anti-vax rant, after this happened, people STILL took the vaccine because they realized how important it was to keep their children from getting polio. It shows a fundamental faith in medical science that we are losing today.
I am nudging towards 80 and very well remember the terror of polio and the social stigma. When I was young, the general public acknowledged that FDR had polio. I also recall the fear that one would end up with a huge scar from a smallpox vaccine as being a feature of my early life. But not one of us would have said no to the smallpox vaccine.
When the oral polio vaccine came out, I recall children standing in long lines in auditoriums to receive it. I do not recall there ever being a major political or even philosophical debate about the efficacy of the vaccines: just a huge relief when they were available.
I’m pretty skeptical any of his delusional dreams are going to happen, don’t forget that there is a lot of money and power that the drug and pharma companies hold in politics.
Usually I’m wary of this, but in this case its actually a good thing.
Genuine question : wouldn’t abolishing vaccine programs like these not guarantee that Americans would be banned to travel to some countries ? Because most countries have strict policies about the “simple” vaccines like those.