Last Friday, NBC News aired an interview with the woman who accused Jay-Z and Sean Combs of raping her at an unknown home after the 2000 MTV VMAs. She told her story to NBC News, then the outlet did some fact-checking to authenticate what they could about her story, and all they found were glaring inconsistencies: she claimed she was driven 20 minutes to a home from a traffic-jammed Manhattan; her father had no memory of driving five hours from Rochester to pick up his 13-year-old daughter; the Madden brothers were not even in New York and she claimed to have met them; she claimed the VMAs were shown on the Jumbotron and they weren’t, and on and on. NBC went back to the woman and she admitted that yes, there are inconsistencies but she still insists that she was raped by Jay-Z and Sean Combs, all while an unidentified female celebrity watched. Jay-Z has insisted that the woman’s lawyer, Tony Buzbee, did nothing to vet his client’s claims, and that this is all an extortion attempt by Buzbee. As in, Buzbee thought Jay-Z would throw some money at the problem and none of this would end up going to court. Well, on Monday, Jay-Z’s lawyer Alex Shapiro did a full briefing to reporters at Roc Nation.
Lawyers for Jay-Z plan to ask a judge to toss a lawsuit accusing the rapper of raping a 13-year-old in 2000, pointing to what they described as “glaring inconsistencies” that emerged in an NBC interview of the accuser, who was not named in the suit.
Alex Spiro, a lawyer for Mr. Carter, wrote a letter Friday night to U.S. District Court Judge Analisa Torres saying that Mr. Carter intends to file a motion to strike the complaint, citing the NBC report. “The interview outs plaintiff’s allegations for what they are: a sham,” he wrote in the letter.
And on Monday, Mr. Spiro spoke to reporters at the Manhattan offices of Roc Nation, Mr. Carter’s entertainment empire. He provided a timeline of the night in question that he said undercut the plaintiff’s account and displayed a photo that he said showed Mr. Carter at a nightclub after the Video Music Awards, not a private residence. “The story doesn’t work,” he said. “It doesn’t check out.”
Tony Buzbee, the lawyer for the woman who sued, wrote in an email that his client remained “adamant” about her claim even as she acknowledged that she may have been mistaken about which celebrity she encountered at the party that night. “We are talking about events from 20 years ago,” he said in an email. He said that he did not think the photograph of Mr. Carter at a nightclub “proves or disproves anything.”
“Courts exist to resolve factual disputes,” he said. “I don’t think it’s appropriate to do so in a news article.”
On Monday, Mr. Spiro — a well-known lawyer whose celebrity clients have included Elon Musk, Alec Baldwin and Mayor Eric Adams of New York — spoke to the press in an effort to discredit the plaintiff. In seeking to get the claim thrown out, Mr. Spiro, in his letter to the judge, accused Mr. Buzbee of violating a federal rule requiring a lawyer to “conduct a reasonable inquiry” into the facts of their client’s claim before signing their name onto a case.
Mr. Buzbee, in an email, defended his firm’s handling of its client’s claim, saying that while the case was referred by another law practice, at least three lawyers from his firm interviewed her before filing the amended complaint. He said a background check was run on her, an investigator was engaged to vet some of the details in her claim and she signed two affidavits related to her account. “Our conduct has been beyond reproach and will continue to be,” Mr. Buzbee said.
I completely understand why Jay-Z and his lawyers are attacking Tony Buzbee so heavily and so consistently. Buzbee’s client’s story fell apart in one interview with a news outlet, and it seems clear that Buzbee and his firm did zero due diligence on checking out this woman’s story or trying to find anything to authenticate any part of her claims. If this case ends up going to trial, it will be bad for Buzbee and his client, not Jay-Z. Jay and his lawyers are on the warpath now, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they try to get Buzbee disbarred over this.
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Buzbee seems problematic. If it’s inappropriate for facts to be disputed in the news, then why did he let his client speak to NBC?
Yes, that never should have happened.
Exactly what I thought when he said that.
What’s even more problematic is that the victim suffered a head trauma in an unrelated incident and both she father admit that she was raped later in life. Shouldn’t the victim be seen by specialists to determine her general condition and state of mind? Obviously, there’s a lot going on with her and any decent lawyer would’ve recommended counseling.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jay-z-rape-accuser-comes-forward-nbc-news-acknowledges-inconsistencies-rcna183435
Alex Spiro’s client list is kind of disturbing itself. But I do want to point out and reiterate that whatever the facts are here, serious inconsistencies in the account of an alleged rape victim from more than twenty years ago are to be expected. This particular woman may not have a case because of those inconsistencies, but that does not disprove her allegations.
That’s my take-away, if she was a child who went through a very traumatic experience AND it was twenty years ago this tracks. If this progresses I’d hope a specialist can interview her who understands trauma.
100%. She was a child, of course her memories aren’t super clear.
I’m disgusted how the whole “believe victims” crowd is quiet when it’s about one of their faves
*I’m disgusted how the whole “believe victims” crowd is quiet when it’s about one of their faves*
Exactly. Though I’m shocked JayZ has fans, I can’t lie. I always thought he was one of those known-to-be sleazy guys that people sort of tolerate because he’s married to a goddess. Learning that JayZ has actual stans for himself in his own right is an eye opener. But I’m not American, so maybe he’s more famous in America?
It’s a fine line, because while inconsistencies are to be expected, here there are some really glaring ones and I think if these had come out in court the case would have been sunk pretty fast.
the issue is that while these inconsistencies don’t mean she’s lying about everything, and they don’t mean she was never raped by Diddy or Jay-Z, they do mean that she’s wrong about how things went down that night so we’re left with “this happened because the victim said so.”
and you are not going to win against Jay-Z with that.
That’s why I said she may not have a case.
I know, I was commenting more on the idea that I’ve seen several times about how “inconsistencies” are to be expected. Well they are, but here they are significant enough that they will likely sink this case very quickly.
I don’t understand why this interview happened because it becomes evidence to be used at trial.
with all due respect, these aren’t just some “inconsistencies” – much of her case relies on the improbabilities that she snuck out of her bedroom window to go to the VMAs and that her father picked her up when she called him when she and her family lived in Rochester. The pre-show for the VMAs start around 6:30 with the show starting around 8 and it’s a 5+ hour drive from Rochester to NYC.
Assuming a friend did drive her after she snuck out of the house and her family believed she went to bed early and stayed in her room all night, The VMAs ended around 11 and then the parties probably go on all night so by the time she would have called her father to pick her up it would have been the middle of the night at the earliest or the next morning, which was a Friday. Then he would have made the 5+ hour drive to pick her up and then the 5+ hour return drive to Rochester. This is something he would remember, not only because of how long the drive would have been but because regardless of what time she called him, he probably would have needed to take a day off of work as well. Also, what happened to the friend that drove her? Are we to expect that a friend gave someone a ride to a place/event 5 hours away that they didn’t have their own plans to attend and then just went home? Has she named the friend?
The above are improbabilities. Not recalling which celebrities she saw or if there was a waitress going around with drinks and just gave her one of many on a tray vs whether a waitress specifically came to her to give her that drink are inconsistencies (especially since the latter implies that she was targeted with a spiked drink and then followed to see what room she went to lie down in).
Exactly. I love how no one is even thinking of how time and space works and keeps arguing this is possible. Plus it shows he was nowhere near him that night, but now people are trying to find another night they were together, near a huge mansion in NY, where all parties are there? It’s crazy.
This . Her story is riddled with inconsistencies. I feel bad for her but this is not going to end well for her. She says she hitchhiked, that would take way longer than a 5 hr drive. The lawyer is at fault here, he should have carefully vetted her story before coming in hot. I don’t think Jay-z is a good person, but I don’t think he did this.
@pottymouth pup. finally someone has used the correct word: improbability. after she called her father from the gas station, what did she do for the five hours while she waited for him to arrive? adding the to-and-from Rochester travel time, it would have been nearly noon when she arrived back home. did she miss school? did her father miss work? most importantly, she claimed she snuck out the window to avoid her parents, meaning that her mother was home. did her mother ever find out that her daughter had gone to NY or that the girl’s father had gone to pick her up?
These inconsistencies actually undermine her allegations. While it’s normal to forget some details from a traumatic event, it’s suspicious to forget crucial information such as the location, time, and individuals involved in the crime. She provided a detailed story about the MTV Awards when Eminem was performing and mentioned speaking to the Madden brothers; however, neither of them attended that year. Additionally, Jay-Z and Puffy were not at a house party together. Furthermore, Puffy didn’t own a large mansion 20 minutes from the city, as the “victim” claimed, and there was no jumbotron that year.
Yeah, came here to say something similar. Not saying this case goes forward, but also as a former litigator I can attest that inconsistencies happen as that’s the nature of memory. Look at all the memory research by scholars like Elizabeth Loftus (crucial in criminal exonerations research re: eye witness identification). No memory is perfect and our brains are not tape/video recorders remembering ever detail to a tee. So inconsistencies alone don’t mean the rape didn’t occur, but of course make the case much more difficult to prove in court. Occurrence and what’s provable are too different things. But it’s possible she’s being untruthful but who knows?
I also think it’s a bit much to say Buzbee did no due diligence and his a shark because she’s shown inconsistencies on this one. What about all the other plaintiffs whose cases are remarkably similar re: Diddy? I understand the distinction from actionable cases against Jay-Z, but doesn’t mean Buzbee isn’t bringing claims based on rapes that really did occur.
I mean, the inconsistencies could also be because this happened years ago and the alleged victim was traumatised by what happened to her? It’s not uncommon for people who experience traumatic experiences to disassociate and not be 100 percent on every single detail..
Speaking from a personal experience
She got no detail right come on. You have to be able to at least get the who, what, where right. How she expect to get anything . The lawyer is a bad one for giving her hopes it could go anywhere.
Lydia, I’m sorry about your experience. Disassociating and memory loss are absolutely legitimate issues for assault victims. But the claims she made are so vastly different from facts that are corroborated by millions of people, like Jumbotrons and the distance between Rochester and NYC. She made up whole conversations with the Madden brothers. It is stunning that this got so far.
I’m sorry for your experience.
Here, the issue isn’t that there are “inconsistencies.” The issue is that there seem to be whole aspects of this that are completely wrong. Like, okay, she says she was in the car for 20 minutes before arriving at the house. Maybe that was really 45 minutes or an hour. That, to me, would be an inconsistency. You said the house was white, maybe it was brick – to me, that is an inconsistency.
but so far, I haven’t seen that ANY aspect of her story checks out, from the timing to the house location to the celebs at the party to the celebs she spoke to, to how she got home that night.
if she was assaulted that night and is correct on the large points (she was drugged, Diddy and Jay Z were in the room with her and another female celeb), its still her lawyer’s job to vet her claims thoroughly before they fall apart in an interview with NBC.
No one gets disbarred for having a client with inconsistencies. Let’s be real here.
I shook my head no at that part…attys don’t get disbarred for that..
Attorneys can get sanctioned and, yes, disbarred, for bringing frivolous (untrue) suits that they know are not based on truth. Albeit, it would have to be a pattern of behavior, not a one-off thing.
The entire concept of costs is the remedy for when bad or frivolous cases are brought and that’s on the client. If there is evidence that the lawyer has more personal involvement then costs against the lawyer can be awarded personally by the court.
Law societies don’t get involved with punishing lawyers for bad cases just because a rich guy like Jay Z is mad. They are set up to protect the client from a lawyer who misleads them or who takes their money. The party on the other side of the case has other remedies.
@Nic919 I dont think this lawyer will be disbarred solely for this but depending on the state, in the US a lawyer absolutely can and will be sanctioned for bringing frivolous lawsuits and if there is a strong pattern of it, then yes, it could lead to disbarment. My state is pretty much “you get disbarred for messing with clients money and sleeping with a client for payment” and that’s pretty much it – but other states are stricter.
So yes, generally speaking, law societies (we call them bar associations here) can and will get involved with punishing lawyers for bad cases – if there is a pattern because it is considered a waste of the court’s time and resources and an abuse of the system.
The District Attorney on the Duke lacrosse rape case was disbarred, but he piled up a whole list of misconduct, plus withheld exculpatory evidence.
Which is not the same thing at all.
Rudy Giuliani got disbarred too and again it had nothing to do with witness who had inconsistent evidence in a television interview.
Nic919, no one is saying that this attorney will get disbarred because this ONE client misremembered (or maybe even made up) the allegations in this ONE suit. If it is shown to be a pattern of behavior (bringing frivolous suits based on made up facts in order to force settlements), HE will absolutely get personal sanctions (not against the client) and censured (suspended), if not disbarred. New York does not play.
@Nic919 – yes, which is why I used the word “but” – this was also a case of accusations of rape and of inconsistent stories, but the DA actively participated in misinformation. Right now, we’re not seeing any of that from Buzbee to make a judgement like that.
I think folks need to consider different jurisdictions/countries/states when arguing (or countering) what can/can’t happen when a lawyer does (or doesn’t do) abcd.
I’m going to say it, it seems more and more that only Diddy’s federal cases and obviously Cassie seems to have merit. The bulk of the civil suits are looking for a payday never checked them before and did in light of this case and they are as inconsistent as this one. Now Jay could have other victims out there but this case is an obvious extortion attempt.
I think, this is specific to this lawyer’s incompetency. It is obvious he doesn’t care about SA victims. The lawyers always check all the facts, details they got from their clients even in civil cases. They go to their friends, ex-boyfriends to find additional witnesses to show the victim told the story consistently over the years. They don’t put their client in front of the public or media without doing all the research. For example, in Prince Andrew’s case, Virginia Roberts’s lawyers found her ex-boyfriend at the time who confirmed her story and he was interviewed by the british media to support her claims. That is what all the lawyers do in these cases. This guy didn’t give a sh*t.
Sadly, I think this is going to taint most of Diddy’s other cases. People are going to start thinking “if that one is based on a lie, how many others are, too.” That’s why his attorney is just sitting back and letting this all play out.
Diddy’s attorneys are letting this play out because they have much bigger fish to fry in the criminal courts. Diddy may not have a lot of money left to pay civil plaintiffs at the end of the criminal trials.
Diddy is facing RICO charges with serious evidence. This case against Jay Z won’t matter at all either way.
It will absolutely matter in the civil suits, even if it doesn’t affect the criminal case (which has another standard of proof and, thus, the allegations are vetted more stringently). Since he is named in THIS civil suit as well, potential jurors will remember this (if it gets dismissed with prejudice).
This case is toast. So much of mainstream entertainment is documented, so they could have avoided all of this, and this woman sounds like she has her own big issues. Buzbee’s money grab hurts legitimate victims and he should be disbarred for it.
Jay-Z’s comeuppance may come from that lawsuit about his rape if a 16 year-old when he was 20 years old that allegedly produced a child. It looks like the man who claims to be his son is getting closer to getting a paternity test. It looks like NY courts messed up big time.
Wait, what??
Does he have a history of r@pe? Rap was so goddamned brutally misogynistic in the 90s and 00s that I just couldn’t stomach it, so that kind of violence tracks. And this poor woman, being dragged through the mud. Her home life couldn’t have been very happy or stable if she were hanging out with 20 year olds- jfc, maybe her dad was a substance abuser who didn’t give a rip what his 13 year old did at night. Just awful all around. I believe she was victimized, and probaly had been in so many different ways in life before (and after) the incident.
All that said, Buzbee has some big Avenatti energy here. Ick.
@NotSoSocialB, so her father was a drug abuser, irresponsible dad, but he drove over 10+ hours to get her daughter? It is possible he wasn’t the best parent, but there is no way he is gonna drive that road if he was that gone to forget 10+ hours long drive.
@NotSoSocialB,
Where do these allegations that her father was a substance abuser come from? I haven’t seen those allegations in any of the stories I’ve seen posted about this. Are you just “supposing” or did you see that information somewhere?
I’m curious why the woman who watched wasn’t named. To protect her because she is going to appear as a witness? Because the plaintiff didn’t know who she was? In that case though, how did she know she was a celebrity?
Maybe, the lawyer also offered her settlement in exchange of not being named and she took it? Otherwise, I would expect her to be named after NBC interview.
Alex Spiro, the guy that gave Epstein his sweetheart plea deal when he was a federal prosecutor.
Nope, that was Alex Acosta.
Many of you seem to agree that there are too many inconsistencies for this to be 2000 . But may be she misremembered the year. Would her memories fall into place if it was a different year? Just trying to give this child the benefit of a doubt.
This could be it. Was there a jumbotron for some other music awards show in NYC when she was 13-14 years old? This kind of stuff is easy to prove or disprove because it’s entertainment and documented all over public media and social media. Someone could connect the dots if this actually happened, and I’m sure that people are doing it now, because that is what happens nowadays. It gets crowdsourced. But the stuff about her dad picking her up from Rochester? And her friend driving 5 hours to drop her off in NYC, and that friend happening to be dead now? This sounds like a grift.
Right, I could believe that she was wrong on the year, and maybe wrong on the awards show – but her dad didn’t say “well I did have to drive to pick her up once in the middle of the night 5 hours away but I think she was 15, not 13.” he said he had zero recollection of that ever happening. Now maybe he’s not being 100% honest, we don’t know, but just taking what he said at face value it sounds like he just never did that.
It’s the fact that the father doesn’t remember at all that’s crazy to me. Not even bc of the length of the drive. It’s bc she was thirteen and needing a ride in the middle of the night. That would scare most parents and there for create a strong memory. Also what state was she in when he picked her up? She was supposedly just gang raped by two grown men, one whose been long reported to be hung like a horse. Most 13yo girls bodies are not built to take that without damage. Plus she was lost in a city she didn’t know. Was she not a mess (even if not physically, but emotionally) when he picked her up even if she didn’t tell him what happened? I feel like a parent would remember such an event bc of would have been emotional/scary for them.
When I was 16 my boyfriend at the time went to a Pink Floyd concert and lost the people we got a ride from. It was the 70s. I had to call my parents late at night to pick us up about 45 minutes away. Would I remember now the exact year, no. Would my father remember having to do it, YES. It’s something parents don’t forget.
There’s no doubt inconsistencies and memory failure are often a part of trauma. Misremembering what you spoke about and who you spoke with seems legitimate. Having an entire detailed conversation about a very specific thing (the tattoo) with a specific person who wasn’t even there is odd. Taken together with a lot of other issues with her recall of events only adds to the skepticism.
If she was wrong about the year then Buzbee should have done the necessary due dilligence to check the dates before filing and going public with the case? There was no Jumbotron at the VMAs in 2000 and it is seems unlikely Jay and Diddy attended an after after party in the suburbs. They were both photographed at an after party in the city, and then Diddy and J Lo were photographed entering Diddy’s townhouse in Manhattan at around 3:00 am. She also doesn’t have a single corroborating witness. If the plaintiff is telling the truth, then Buzbee has likely done irreparable damage to her case by not doing some basic fact checking. You can’t keep going back and making major changes to the allegations (based on ideas suggested by strangers onsocial media) and expect to be believed in court. Also, something to remember about rapists is they rarely ever do it just once. If Jay-Z really is that person then I think we will see other victims come forward in the near future.
@Libra,
She said she witnessed Eminem playing a song in the street at the event. There is only one year in which he played in the street at a VMA’S award show during that time period. He even wrote about it in his book. That was in 2000. It was one of his most famous VMA performances and he recreated it for the 2024 VMA’s. So it would be hard pressed to be any other event since that was a one of a kind event.
I believe that this woman was assaulted and horribly traumatized by someone. Was it Diddy and/or Jay-Z? I don’t know. Diddy is demonstrably guilty of some truly horrifying things, and Jay-Z has been a friend/associate of his for so long that I find it diffcult to believe that he didn’t at least know that SOMETHING f–ked up was going on. But she didn’t just get her timeline wrong, she straight-up said people were there, who absolutely were not there (which could be seen as a pretty serious accusation in itself, when you’re talking about what was essentially a rape party). If she was raped by Jay-Z, the complete lack of due diligence on the part of her sketchy-ass MAGA lawyer, and perhaps even worse, the decision to allow her to do a high-profile interview, has likely completely f–ked her case. This woman is a victim of someone. Given her obvious level of trauma, maybe she’s been abused by a number of people over a long period of time. I hope she gets the help she clearly needs, but in this particular legal case, whatever the actual truth of it is, I think she has lost.
The white women baying for blood on this site when this case should have never been brought.
As a rape victim, you are not messing up the freaking year, month, date, and you are not imagining whole conversations with people who 100 percent were not there. Her own lawyer didn’t vet her (he allowed another firm to do it) and then let her be interviewed. NBC news has zero skin in this game and pointed everything she was incorrect about. I don’t know what happened to her or did not happen to her. But I got zero feelings towards a white woman lying that two Black men raped her and a Black woman watched it happen. The whole thing sounds like she read some accounts and tried to cash in. Everyone in Houston has been saying Tony Buzbee is shady for real. And him trying to shake Jay-Z down for cash when he didn’t even vet shows he’s a hot mess. And this is probably going to mess up the case against Diddy.
FYI, everyone Black has always known about him and R Kelly. I have heard zero peeps about Jay-Z outside he’s a cheater.
Right??
Such a clear lie and money grab/extortion attempt that will surely impact the credibility of the cases against Diddy. This is so irresponsible considering American history that if I were Jay-Z I’d sue everyone involved in this.
I agree his initial statements were dumb, but I would be heated that I got a shakedown to give someone millions and when they are giving you details you are like I have proof this didn’t happen and it’s getting ignored. I want people brought to justice. But this woman is causing a whole lot of mess that is going to mess up anyone who is going to come forward. Not one thing she said is remotely true.
The comments on these articles were really a mess, people were talking about “Jay-Z’s victims”. Like you said, there have been lots of anon stories about Diddy, R. Kelly for years. Nothing about Jay-Z except how ruthless he is as a business man and how unfaithful he was to Beyonce. If he was like Diddy like everyone is assuming, we would get multiple stories from victims by now. The lawyers on these cases usually announce that they got contacted by other victims and they are in the process of vetting them. This case got public and still there is nothing, even though this lawyer has an open phone line for potential victims. I know it is still early, but remembering how quickly Diddy’s case blew up after Cassie’s civil case got public, I expected something similar after seeing all the social media commentary about this.
Exactly. I was like it’s been weeks and not one person has come forward. I will say this. Diddy was doing a lot of mess when no one was around but his victims and his “trusted associates.” Too many men in rap would not even mess with Diddy, see 2Pac and others. It just made zero sense to me how this would have occurred. I think what got me was her claiming she walked to a gas station? There’s no way you did that and were not seen by anyone. You can’t recall the name of the gas station, you claim your father picked you up and he’s like, there’s no way that happened. And then you have other artists who could not be there at all saying, could not have happened. There’s no big conspiracy here. She got caught lying.
@Walking the Walk, before all these cases got public, I have read some stories about Diddy being a scary man, you need to stay away from and he was one of the reasons Justin Bieber got issues. Like nothing very explicitly, but enough to tell people to stay away from him.
Exactly. There was enough about Diddy in the Black community that he abused his girlfriends that I was 100 percent on cassidy’s side (when she sued without her name) and then when he went at her, see how fast the news found that hotel tape? That’s why I think it was insane for Buzbee to even allow his client to talk to the news unless he had solid evidence. It’s a she said/he said situation.
Look, she may not have a great case, but I hope that I’d there are any more victims of Diddy or Jay Z that they feel brave enough to come forward because she did.
I will continue to believe women. Celebitchy’s coverage here is gross, apparently ya’ll just love Jay-Z despite hiring a lawyer that defends absolute trash people and acting all sorts of guilty.
I believe credible accusers and I think that MOST women would never lie about such a thing, but I can’t ignore that some have lied. A prominent example that has been in the news recently: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/12/14/us/crystal-mangum-duke-lacrosse-allegations
Another prominent historical example: https://eji.org/news/emmett-till-accuser-admits-she-lied/
You sound like a Republican. Everyone is entitled to a defense. I hate the fact in America if someone gets an attorney now that they must be guilty. And way too many people on this site keep claiming JayZ must have done something. You all are on here racial profiling, while cloaking yourself in the believe woman rhethoric. You don’t believe someone when they are obviously not telling the truth.
Freaking Alice Sebold sent a man to jail for raping her and he was the wrong freaking man.
Agreed, the coverage here of this case is gross.
And we will continue to believe someone who has been tried and adjudicated in front of a jury, man or woman. That being said, most of us know Jay-Z is a sleaze-bag who definitely knew about Diddy’s crimes but continued to be personal and professional friends with him. He may not have taken part in a rape, but he sure as hell knew what was going on.
If you think the fans of Jay-Z are the reason why this particular allegation is being challenged, you’re not looking at the facts. And the “believe all women” mantra will lose its power if you continue to apply it to every SA allegation. Not one group of people on this planet is always right. And a strong dislike or like of the accused doesn’t change that.
I knew Buzbee in Texas. He lives in a highly exclusive neighborhood and at one time had a Sherman tank parked outside his home. He’s… something.
I am not saying this happened or did not happen. I hope these lawyers are not going on rumours Or try to link JZ with Pdiddy just because they can. My advise to JZ is to avoid going after people if he did in fact engaged in this kind of behavior. Because it will come out. I do not put anything pass these people. I also know there are people out there trying to get money and they can always find lawyers to suit their needs. Becareful what you wish for! Karma is watching.
I was drugged and SAed 50 years ago and I remember everything from before being drugged and afterwards when I woke up completely naked in some sleazy motel on 34th Street in NY and he robbed me but left me a dollar to catch the subway. I remember what I was wearing but not the man’s face. The police cared less about a 19 year old black girl being SAed.
This woman is lying. Maybe not about being Saed since it happens so much to girls, but maybe where she was when it happened and with whom. You can believe women but also admit that some do lie.