TMZ: Ryan Reynolds insists he did not ‘berate’ Justin Baldoni a year ago

On New Year’s Eve, Justin Baldoni and nine other plaintiffs sued the New York Times for $250 million, all because of the Times’ bombshell exclusive about Blake Lively’s California Civil Rights complaint. The Times story was heavy on Blake’s narrative of “social manipulation,” using texts and messages between Justin Baldoni’s publicist and crisis manager, painting a picture of Baldoni as a sexual predator who publicly smeared his victim. In Baldoni’s suit against the Times, he provided some receipts of texts and emails, enough to show that there is more nuance to some of Blake’s claims. In one interesting section of Baldoni’s lawsuit, there’s talk of a January 2024 meeting at Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds’ Tribeca apartment. From Variety:

But according to [Baldoni’s] lawsuit, it was Lively who embarked on a “strategic and manipulative” smear campaign of her own and used false “sexual harassment allegations to assert unilateral control over every aspect of the production.” And according to the suit, Lively’s husband, actor Ryan Reynolds, allegedly berated Baldoni in an aggressive manner during a heated meeting at their Tribeca penthouse in New York, “accusing him of ‘fat shaming’” his wife. The suit claims that the A-list actor also pressured Baldoni’s agency, WME, to drop the director during the “Deadpool and Wolverine” premiere in July, well before Baldoni enlisted crisis PR.

The lawsuit also pushes back on a major component of Lively’s CRD complaint and the Times’ reliance on it for its story. It’s a list of 30 items that were allegedly agreed upon during a January meeting that included Baldoni, Heath, Lively and Reynolds and a Sony executive. But today’s lawsuit claims that “no such document was ever presented to Baldoni, the Wayfarer team, or, to their knowledge, anyone else — whether during that meeting or at any other time — and therefore, could not have been agreed to.” The suit adds: “In reality, many of these items were encountered for the first time in the CRD Complaint itself and include references to highly disturbing events that never occurred. The repeated use of the phrase ‘no more’ before each demand falsely suggests that these alleged incidents had previously taken place and needed to cease. This implication is not only misleading but entirely untrue.”

As for the meeting at Lively and Reynolds’ penthouse apartment in Tribeca, everyone was “in shock” by Reynolds’ outburst, the lawsuit claims. According to the lawsuit, one of the film’s producers who was present said that “in his 40-year career he had never seen anyone speak to someone like that in a meeting, [while] the Sony representative mentioned that she would often think of that meeting and her one regret is that she didn’t stop Reynolds’ berating of Baldoni.”

Back in August, when coverage of a mysterious feud between Lively and Baldoni began to spiral on social media and in the press, Variety inquired of Sony whether any HR complaints had been filed against Baldoni during production and was told “no.”

[From Variety]

So in just one week, we’ve gone from Blake’s narrative that “there was a January production meeting in which Ryan acted as her representative and the studio acquiesced to all of her demands in writing to protect her from a predatory director” to “actually, this was a meeting at Ryan and Blake’s home and Ryan berated Baldoni in front of multiple witnesses, including reps from Sony, and nothing was put in writing and given to Baldoni.” So now Team Lively-Reynolds is backtracking a bit – yes, the meeting was at their Tribeca home, but no, Ryan didn’t “berate” Justin.

Justin Baldoni’s accusation Ryan Reynolds berated and screamed at him in a house full of stars in an ambush meeting is way overblown … this according to a source who was in the meeting. Baldoni made several accusations against Blake Lively and husband RR in a $250 million lawsuit against The New York Times … claiming the “Deadpool” star was aggressive toward JB at a meeting that took place in the couple’s NYC home, as celeb pals came and went.

Our source tells TMZ … the meeting did go down last January, as “It Ends With Us” was to resume production after it was stalled by industry strikes … and everyone in attendance knew Baldoni’s alleged behavior would be addressed … so, there was zero blindsiding.

The source says RR was not screaming and berating JB, although the source concedes he was “angry and stern,” adding Reynold’s spoke in an “impassioned” way but it did not rise to the level of screaming or berating.

Baldoni said in his lawsuit the encounter he had with Reynolds was “traumatic” and he had “never been spoken to like that in his life.”

The source also took issue with the way the meeting was characterized in the lawsuit … in particular the mention of the penthouse where other stars were randomly milling around. The meeting was at the home of Reynolds and Lively, but our source says other celebs were not coming and going.

Baldoni isn’t alone in suing the Times … he is one of 10 plaintiffs, including publicists Melissa Nathan and Jennifer Abel, who were mentioned at length in Lively’s initial complaint and in the paper’s story. Lively has filed a lawsuit making a formal demand for money, suing Baldoni and others — including the publicists — for mental pain and anguish, severe emotional distress, and lost wages.

[From TMZ]

I said this week that the story of what Ryan said to Justin and how Ryan said it seemed like a crucial element to the larger story of what the hell happened between all involved. Blake’s side will say that Ryan is a loving, protective husband who was standing up for his wife. Justin’s side will say that the husband of an actress-producer completely overstepped and raged out during what was supposed to be a professional production meeting. Also, Variety’s coverage of Baldoni’s suit didn’t say that celebrities were milling around. Everyone agrees on the fact that this was supposed to be a production meeting, and yet no one can agree on what was actually said.

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90 Responses to “TMZ: Ryan Reynolds insists he did not ‘berate’ Justin Baldoni a year ago”

  1. Justthatmuch says:

    I don’t believe a word Justin says about Blake.
    I do believe everything he says about Ryan.

    Underneath that veneer of “everyone’s favourite guy” is a truly arrogant man. I’ve always thought that of Ryan & never bought into his schtick.

    • ML says:

      You know, if this happened, JB has every legal right to address it directly with RR. It’s workplace harassment.

      Instead, this has wound up in a main talking point in a libel case against the NYT. If there was no mention of this in the thousands of documents they studied before the article (Jennifer Abel was Baldoni’s PR during this time), then it’s odd that this has blown up. Thefocus is supposed to be mostly on Lively and Baldoni and then the ensuing smear campaign against Lively.

      • babs says:

        it’s almost like it’s a legal tactic to muddy the narrative.

        the big points of blake’s initial complaint are the sexual harassment accusations and here we are needling the accuracy of whether her husband talked to justin at their home. this is background noise.

        i’d like to know:

        1. why is the entire cast supporting blake?
        2. why is the author supporting blake?

        these are witnesses to whatever happened on set and they did this before any legal action had been taken. justin’s support has been maybe sony execs? and some rich guy?

      • Kitten says:

        @ML-Eh. Getting admonished or lectured by a coworker or boss isn’t necessarily workplace harassment. As long as Ryan kept the topic of conversation professional and work-related I don’t see how it would rise to that bar. People get yelled at work all the time and rarely is it legal grounds for that level of accusation.

      • ML says:

        Kitten, Cultural difference? If my boss popped a gasket in a threatening way, that would definitely get written up. You’re not supposed to be screaming at someone. Depending, they might need to get help for controlling their emotions–it’s not condusive to a safe working environment here.

      • Ula1010 says:

        Was Ryan Justin’s boss or coworker on this movie? They probably should have spoken to Justin in a more neutral environment with a lawyer present.

      • SamuelWhiskers says:

        To add to Babs’ excellent comment;

        Why are NUMEROUS former Justin Baldoni cast and crew from other projects he’s worked on now coming forward to say that he’s a bully and a creep?

    • Selene says:

      @Kitten “people get yelled at work all the time and rarely is it legal grounds for that level of accusation…” Where? Where have you seen this and why have you normalized it? This would not happen in my line of work between coworkers or superiors. The reckoning that would happen (and has happened already which is why everyone keeps in line) would get the culprit fired, sued and gathered quickly, in that order. It IS grounds for harassment everywhere.

    • StillDouchesOfCambridge says:

      I think they both had a smear campaign against each other, but Blake was loosing that battle: we all saw how organically mean and bitchy she was, that was then… imagine her now with a billionnaire elite hollywood actor husband. Very likely the worst Blake.

      To me, Blake and Ryan’s are suing because their egoes are hurt. Blake is not perceived as a young 19 year old, tall, petite & ingenue as they both would like. Blake Lively is a 37 yo, full grown woman with a woman’s body who’s had 4 kids! We can strap ourselves anyway we want, it’s still gonna show. Ryan is probably insulted that his wife is not the trophy wife he wants everybody to perceive her as, and that her colleagues didn’t think of her like that, hurt his billionaire ego. Feeling fat and being fat shamed isnt the same. In this case I think she just didnt feel her best. But the smear campaigns i’m sure happened.

    • Friendly Crow says:

      So this is kind of a conspiracy tangent.

      But do yall remember Hugh Jackman’s divorce announcement and then the cheating allegations that were leaked and pushed? (Not saying he didn’t cheat, just saying the thing is sus)

      RR and Hugh Jackman have a decades long friendship. Hugh jackman is powerful in Hollywood and up until that point had a pristine reputation.

      Billionaire bffs can buy a lot of information, leverage and press.

      Hugh jackmsn seemed to have gone to multiple premiers for BL with RR for support.

      Was Hugh’s very sudden outing as an alleged cheater an attempt by JB and his billionaire to hurt his and RR’s movie – not being banks or in Hollywood for his most famous role would be bad – and to start to undermine RR’s nice guy image? And as a warning to their other Hollywood friends who might support them publicly?

      If they can hurt Hugh Jackmans pristine image don’t for a second think that anyone else would be safe.

      The timing is really strange and sus. And it seemed coordinated.

      • JennaR says:

        If I didn’t know that Hugh’s persona is fake, I might believe some of that, but he treats “staff” as beneath him so he has plenty of his own enemies to leak his affair.

  2. ML says:

    All sorts of isht is coming out from IEWU that usually doesn’t see the light of day. None of these people [are going to] look sympathetic. However, you don’t need to be a nice person to be mistreated.

    Blake Lively’s lawsuit is based on sexual harassment and defamation. I keep seeing Justin Baldoni’s side skirting away from the former and focusing of the reputation issues. Hence the focus on RR.

    JB et al sued the NYT. The lawyer, Bryan Freedman, made it seem sus that BL entered a legal complaint instead of suing directly when that is protocol. He also made a huge deal out of the fact that the NYT published their article 2 hours early on December 21, when the night before he himself sent them a statement saying that no one would be commenting. If you read the 87 pages he filed in the Variety link, it looks like a weak lawsuit against the NYT–it looks more like he wants to bury Blake’s reputation. TMZ mentions that there are 10 plaintiffs–some of them are people but others are the companies. Just be aware of how these people are using language.

    Amber Heard and Johnny Depp looked like trash during the British lawsuit, but it was fairly clear that JD was a wife beater. That trash stench followed AH across the Atlantic so that by the time her expensive case got to court, she was the loser of a popularity contest. And as such, she lost the case since facts were secondary in the US. This is what Blake Lively seems to be facing. Baldoni et al are fudging the truth (see NYT and how Freedman describes thr actions) and making BL and RR as unsympathetic as possible.

    • Zan Bee says:

      Jason’s team was waiting for Blake to make her “complaint” a formal lawsuit. They will respond to Blake’s allegations in a Statement of Defense. Jason will likely also cross-claim, and sue Black and others as a part of this civil matter.

      Jason and others were pretty clever to sue the NYT separately!! It will be up to the NYT to add other defendants to this matter. In the court of public opinion, this strategy gives the appearance that Jason’s team is reasonable and not aggressively going after Blake and Ryan. Rather, Jason’s team is just reacting to the lunacy around them!

    • Byzant says:

      100 percent his silence on the actual allegations says everything

  3. Lili says:

    This is getting messier by the minute, I doubt anyone’s reputation is going to come out of this unscathed. Justin is going to end up with the rights to a second book that no one is going to want to make, which is a shame since it is an important topic.

    • Justjj says:

      The first film made an absurd amount for what it was, 300 million or something? So there are plenty of people who will want to make it. This whole production has a funny smell. I believe Blake even though I didn’t at the time before the receipts. I feel sorry for her because if Ryan can be a surly, controlling, ass to her sometimes under the nice guy shtick and Baldoni and others crossed some lines, I can see how those two things could collide horribly. (That whole speculation about RR not wanting her to work for example?) Unfortunately, I wonder if stories like these don’t happen *all* the time in the industry and we are just now seeing so much in the light of day with PR teams and lawyers publicly battling it out. There is probably hush money, mediation and/or a small settlement behind closed doors or contract adjustments. I suspect many women in the industry are trained to look the other way during these circumstances and just told it’s part of the job-putting up with the whims and bs of men who are “in charge “ , those with producer credits, etc. Perhaps just a silent understanding like there is in so many fields. I commend Blake for coming forward and really hope when the dust clears she’s the winner, whatever that looks like for her but agree with everyone saying that this is making anyone attached to this film look bad, the more it drags on. I can absolutely imagine RR “raging out” or at the very least, verbally eviscerating someone with sarcasm and cruelty. He might not have yelled per se, but it is apparent something ugly went down.

    • Eleonor says:

      Blake is not the perfect victim but something really wrong happened.
      I have been waiting for years to see the perfect family image she has with her husband crumble, but I don’t want it like this.
      This is too important.

  4. Bumblebee says:

    The important fact is the document. Does the document exist and did Baldoni sign it? I’m just going to wait for a judge to rule on that. Everything else is so muddy.

    • Becks1 says:

      That seems like it would be a pretty easy to thing to produce and it also seems like a weird thing for either side to lie about. If this document exists and was signed by Baldoni et al, then it will be produced at some point during discovery and it will answer a lot of our questions.

      • Kitten says:

        @Becks1-exactly. That doc is a central aspect to her lawsuit and is referenced over and over again in the complaint. Either her lawyer is sloppy or JB is lying because this is a glaring discrepancy between the two parties.

    • Jen says:

      Blake’s California civil rights complaint includes the document I think you mean, and it is signed by Jamey Heath, in his capacity as President of It Ends With Us Movie, LLC. Jamey Heath is CEO of Wayfarer, the production company he has with Baldoni and Sorowitz.

  5. seaflower says:

    The fact that BL/RR (I suspect RR) just has to have the last word publicly to everything is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
    Like I said yesterday, the truth is somewhere in the middle of all this. I think there are elements of both BL and JB behaving badly. But the having to continuously air out everything in public on BL/RR side, just smacks of an almost rash need to be believed.

    • ML says:

      I have the opposite reaction, Seaflower. Bryan Freedman made it seem like Blake Lively did something nefarious by filing a legal complain in California instead of immediately suing. It turns out, she legally had to do that. Bryan Freedman also suggested that the NYT did something negarious by publishing their story two hours earlier than their initial publication deadline. Then you read this: “Mr. Baldoni, Wayfarer and the other subjects chose not to have any conversations with The Times or address any of the specific text messages or documents and instead emailed a joint response, which was published in full. (Also, they sent their response to The Times at 11:16 p.m. ET Dec 20th, not at 2:16 a.m. ET Dec 21st as the complaint says.)””

      Everyone can be a jerk, but it’s supposed to be illegal to run a toxic workplace and it’s supposed to be illegal to smear someone in revenge.

      • Hannah1 says:

        The civil rights complaint — immediately leaked — was a gimmick and arguably not filed in good faith. The only civil rights issue is whether Lively was subjected to such an abusive environment based solely on her protected characteristic of being female that it amounted to effective termination. Unfortunately for average workers just being made uncomfortable by various behaviors does not rise to that level.

        Star-level ego and sensitivity — especially in a ‘creative’ environment where it would be harder to tell what is ‘normal’ for a given work task, like making artistic decisions about a birth scene — don’t come into it. It needs to be systematic and targeted unbearable behavior that would not have happened to someone not in the protected class.

      • Jen says:

        @Hannah1, that is quite a bizarre take. I don’t know why there is so much focus on the weight comments, instead of the unwanted conversations about sex, intimacy, and porn, the unwanted showing of videos and images involving nudity, all of that would be sexual harassment to us average workers.

        Now on top of that add the pressuring of new levels of simulated intimacy not in the script/previously not agreed upon. Imagine if you’re an actor and you’re expecting ABC sex scenes with xyz choreographed movements of simulated intimacy, and new sex scenes and intimate touch not previously agreed to are sprung on you. The pressure for new sex scenes or more nudity is harassment if you’ve already said no and there is a pattern of pressuring. Springing intimate touch not previously agreed to in the middle of shooting or rehearsing a scene is your coworker molesting you.

    • Becks1 says:

      What’s sticking out to me here is that RR isn’t denying meeting happened or that he yelled at Baldoni – the source is saying he was “angry, stern” and “impassioned.” That doesn’t necessarily disprove JB and the others’ version of what happened.

      I *think* this meeting is important because this is supposedly when the document listing the harassment issues was signed, right? So JB’s team is saying, no, that’s not what happened in the meeting, but this other stuff DID happen. Or is he trying to imply that he signed the document because RR essentially forced them all to? But then elsewhere it says there was no such document.

      • ML says:

        Becks1, I’ve read BL’s 80 page legal complaint, and JB et al’s NYT libel lawsuit. I haven’t seen Stephanie Jones’ legal filing or Blake’s federal filing. I believe that both parties handled in their own interests.

        I don’t like that Freedman has provably fudged the truth in regards to the NYT libel suit, which I admit has me side-eye his information more than the BL filing. I know people who have worked in Dutch theater, and the meeting which you reference has a lot to do with alleged fat shaming and bulging disks. The Dutch method would be to rewrite the scene, use camera cuts, a stepstool, or hire a body double. A hurt back is a legal reason not to be able to do a scene! Even in the US. Why didn’t he just handle accordingly instead of asking her trainer or trying to send her to lose weight? Weight loss after pregnancy is supposed to take up to 9 months after birth and you aren’t supposed to drop weight quickly when breast feeding! He must know this, yet he was setting BL under pressure to lose weight–he doesn’t deny this.

        Sony is staying weirdly out of the cannon fire. In Baldoni’s lawsuit, they’re backing him. They also showed up at his premiere, not Lively’s. However, they have not offered visible support since December 21.

      • Becks1 says:

        Except what would happen in Dutch theater isn’t really relevant for a US production shot and filmed in the US. Maybe the standards are the same, maybe they aren’t, I dont know. I’m an attorney, not an actor lol.

        I dont feel like going round and round on this, because a lot of people have made up their minds already. But there’s a reason why cases aren’t decided after the initial filings.

        I have no idea what actually happened, but no one else does either besides Lively and Baldoni and those directly involved. I dont know if I have the mental energy to keep following this though so let me know in a year or two what ends up happening.

      • ML says:

        True, the NLs isn’t America. I meant to point out that people who work creatively usually find easy, creative solutions to their problems. (Many theater people also do a bit of TV or Film here as well.) It’s just bonkers that the producer/ studio/ director/ actor was unable to approach the JB character lifting the BL character in this cursed film differently.
        The people involved aren’t very sympathetic, are they? In a different way, the workplace situation from the NYT article is very familiar to me, but I can understand why this is offputting.

      • Jen says:

        Blake’s complaint says there was no such scene in the script involving Ryle lifting Lily, so according to her, Justin’s explanation that he asked because of his bad back is a smokescreen.

        The request for a meeting was item 17 in the list of protections Blake’s team requested for her return to set after the strikes were resolved. It was sent by her legal team, and Jamey Heath, in his capacity as President of It Ends With Us Movie, LLC signed that he accepted it. At the all hands meeting, we’re told in Blake’s complaint that everyone agreed to the list of protections, and that it did improve behaviour on set through the completion of filming.

  6. Michel says:

    This whole thing is bad for everyone and no one looks good. This should have been done behind closed doors.

    • Smile says:

      This!

    • Mel says:

      Agree. I think both parties are different degrees of awful. No one is coming out unscathed.

    • Kitten says:

      According to BL’s lawsuit, she DID try to handle things behind closed doors—many times, actually.

      Regardless of which side you fall on in this fight, BL did an excellent job of providing endless receipts showing various attempts to address and stop JB’s unwanted, inappropriate behavior.
      Pretty sure she was would have preferred to avoid all the terrible press and just, ya know, made the movie. But anyone who has been a victim of SH in the workplace knows that addressing the issue professionally doesn’t always make the SH stop. Sometimes you have to take matters into your own hands.

      • Justthatmucj says:

        Kitten, exactly.
        Blake did everything right, She went to Sony, she logged everything, she fulfilled her obligations.

        The only reason this is even a conversation is because the PR spin is still working, even on this thread people are falling for it. Justin doesn’t address SH at all & he’s still controlling the narrative.
        We should be talking about his SH of Blake.
        He’s got top PR & I hope Blake can come out unscathed. I doubt it tho, Amber certainly has not.

        As for RR, I still believe he acted inappropriately in a work place setting (home or not). The flip side to his “ah shucks” is an ego driven man.

      • Yumyum says:

        Agree with Kitten and Justthatmucj, this Justin guy is all about the PR and he’s kidding himself if he thinks that’s going to stand up in court.

        – As pointed out above, why is the whole / most of the cast and crew behind Blake?
        – Re-read the text exchanges between Justin’s PR people again, please.
        – Ryan Reynold is also unlikeable, like his wife, but does that mean Blake is not to be believed (again, reread the PR people’s texts and consider why the cast and crew are behind Blake)?

      • Jen says:

        Agreed, Kitten. Blake was not someone I cared anything about before this, but in this she has my empathy for what she endured, and my admiration for compiling receipts and fighting back.

    • Mcali02 says:

      I disagree. I commend BL for making this public. She tried to handle it behind the scenes through proper channels but it is evident JB with the help of his billionaire BFF, freaked out people would find out about her complaint and went on the offensive. Her lawsuit exposes the power of the spin and how the public is easily manipulated. Also, the only way we can stop SH is by exposing it. I am glad BL had the courage to do so.

      Side note – It’s really crazy how many women support JB. It’s like they want a male ally so bad they can’t admit they were duped.

    • Emily says:

      Totally agree. I think they only reason this is playing out publicly is because JB went on the offensive.

  7. T says:

    I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle. However, I’ve been in Justin’s situation where a person manipulates a situation when I thought everything was fine but when they that person didn’t get their way, I suddenly was under attack. They made me look bad. At my company, the person did everything to sabotage me until a change in management and corporate structure discovered the individual embezzled money. The individual prevented my promotion and had everyone that interacted with my department thinking I was the problem. This individual would also go to HR with altered emails and text messages which made me look bad when you didn’t read the whole interaction.

    It seems like Blake and Ryan version isn’t cut and dry when Justin released the text messages that she sent. The all hands on deck meeting with the producers which was implied as a formal corporate meeting turned into an invite to our home but I didn’t berate him casual interaction. Another version was that Blake and Ryan were only expecting Justin to come to their apartment. Justin supposedly invited the others without their knowledge.

    Another issue coming out is that Justin refused her p.g.a and she was so scared of him but she requested to edit the movie with him.

    Unless the text from the crisis manager were cherry picked, I get the impression that they were thinking that they wouldn’t have to do anything because Blake was causing her own problems. Blake’s version made it appear like they were going after her but his version make it appear as if they didn’t know what was happening.

    Ryan’s correction almost seems like he’s more concerned about protecting his image as a good guy. I don’t think they thought that Justin would fight back.

    This is getting messier every minute.

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      Excellent post.

    • Jen says:

      It’s not true that the quotes only show Justin’s crisis management PR just sat back and celebrated that they didn’t have to do anything. They show discussion of specific stories they seeded, including one written by the crisis manager’s own sister. They discussed planting and did plant stories about Justin’s bad back (Blake says there was no lifting of her character by his in the script, so that’s a smokescreen) and stories about how Justin is neurodivergent, in order to suggest that if he made anyone ‘uncomfortable,’ he’s just awkward.

      They wrote out a planning document on how to protect Justin and Wayfarer’s reputations in the event Blake went public with her ‘grievances’ as they called the sexual harassment, and they carried out the plans they laid out in that document.

    • Tiffany says:

      @T agreed!

  8. Thinking says:

    The fact that Ryan Reynolds went to TMZ seems weird to me. I feel someone at his level would just let things play out in court rather than going to TMZ to refute (or not refute) a story.

    • Justjj says:

      It seems really strange and complex doesn’t it? These nuances in different places people go to with their PR messages, the targets, and the boosts for the others, the social media campaigns, the publicists, the pap strolls and the social media posts…. It’s a huge, bananas, super ugly machine, it would appear… so interesting Sony is completely removed in all of it. I wonder if the fact JB owns the rights and they want to make the other movie has something to do with that? Rich people problems.

  9. Sonya says:

    BL never filed a complaint of sexual harassment with Sony. That’s the crux of the whole matter. When does body shaming become sexual harassment? It was stated before the movie was released that BL took offense to B asking his trainer how much she weighs due to his back issues & him having to lift her in a movie.

    • Jaded says:

      Baldoni did a lot of icky stuff during filming that wasn’t in the script (e.g. licking Blakes neck, murmuring in her ear about how good she smelled) and putting his hands where they shouldn’t have been) and tried to get away with rewriting scenes where she had to be completely nude, etc. Those were the SH issues and they were corroborated by other women on the set.

    • Hannah1 says:

      @Sonya — key point. Because his question dealt with her body and her sense of herself as a woman in no sense made it ‘sexual harassment’.

      @Jaded — I would think it’s hard to say what constitutes inappropriate ‘sexual behavior’ between actors simulating a sex scene unless there were violations of explicit ground rules. That is why intimacy coordinators and choreography are so helpful.

    • Jen says:

      @Sonya, that’s not accurate. Blake’s California civil rights complaint states that she and others in the production repeatedly raised formal complaints with Wayfarer, the production company for the movie. The complaint further states that when that didn’t work (because the owners of Wayfarer are the same people they’re complaining about in the production, mainly Baldoni and Heath) she approached Sony, and they rebuffed her and told her they were just the distributors, and her only recourse was to address her complaints with Wayfarer, who owned the actual film.

      Also, I do not know why the weight comments have received such prominence. There was so much more serious sexual harassment in the complaint, as I’ve said more about in other comments on this thread. The focus on the weight comments seems to be some disease originating with Baldoni’s camp that everyone has been infected with.

  10. KDPhilly598 says:

    Someone commented yesterday about this whole situation, saying to watch Justin’s wedding proposal to his wife. I could barely get through it, as it’s almost painful to watch. But it tells you all you need to know about Justin. I also attempted to watch him in a podcast and I had to stop. He was trying to make himself cry and honestly, he just gives me the creeps. There is no way my husband would ever want me within 10 feet of that narcissistic jerk, so I’m not surprised that Ryan was “stern” with Justin. My gut tells me that the man baby JB couldn’t handle the sternness, as everyone has always fallen for his smoke & mirrors act and coddled him.

    • Mcali02 says:

      I agree. I am not a BL fan by any means and never heard of JB until this movie came out. His promotion of the movie was ick and felt performative at the time. I can’t believe so many women who typically support victims of SH & SA are defending this guy. They want a male ally so bad they don’t want to believe it.

  11. Raya says:

    The most fascinating part of JB’s filing that no one seems to be talking about is about Blake forcing JB and wayfarer to get her a executive producing credit and how she took over the editing of the movie. In my opinion this is what this entire conflict is about. JB definitely overstepped BL’s boundaries during production and it seems the threat of exposing the sexual harassment was the leverage BL used to get her version of the movie out. JB and his partner kept allowing her in the editing room even though they didn’t like the idea, because they were scared she would go public with her complaints. JB was barred was viewing her cut of the movie, banned from the premiere (he and his family were shuffled to a different area and after party) and forced to give BL a producing credit under duress (they even documented that).

    Why hadn’t anyone questioned how BL got to get her own editors to cut a version of the film and release it despite test audiences preferring Justin’s version?

    She got Ryan to write a scene without the screenwriter and director knowing about it. All sketchy behaviour. This isn’t just about sexual harassment even if it did occur. This is about BL weaponizing it to get her way.

    • Bexington says:

      Yes! I believe this is what happened too.

    • Friendly Crow says:

      Whoa. I was with you till the last paragraph.

      She “weaponized” the sexual harassment she endured?

      That’s not how any of this works. She was sexually harassed. She felt helpless as Sony refused to help and the producers were her abusers.

      If they realized she could shine a light on their horrific behavior and actions and as such tried to buy her silence with an edit etc – that only means that they know the extent of their actions and were trying to bribe / buy her silence. While having a reputation ruining smear campaign against her locked and loaded.

      How someone can be sexually harassed and powerless to stop that and yet have the power to make these abusive men dance to her tune after having to endure months of psychological and emotionally trauma – no.

      That’s not how any of this works. Being sexually harassed isn’t a trump card. It’s a horrific exploitation of a power structure to hurt and degrade another human being.

    • Mcali02 says:

      If she did do this, then kudos to her. F anyone who pulls shis s*** in this day and age. You SH someone? You don’t deserve to work – much less work on a movie about DV and control the direction and editing of it. That’s sick. I am not a fan of BL by any means, but good for her for not putting up with this crap and using her power to expose him.

  12. Jais says:

    So I’m assuming this is going to court? It’ll all come out then so at this point I feel all these questions will hopefully be answered then? Look forward to it.

    • Becks1 says:

      That’s my current stance. a lot of people on here are playing legal experts and SH experts and everything else and……..well, there are actual lawyers and experts involved. Let it play out in the courts.

      • Libra says:

        Right. This will get even more interesting. I don’t have a horse in this race so will sit back and watch it unfold.

    • Justjj says:

      Does it not feel like this could take years to play out in court? It’s already exhausting and it’s been not even a month.

  13. HillaryIsAlwaysRight says:

    Whatever RR may have said or done to advocate for his wife, does not detract from the fact that Baldoni sexually harassed his wife.

    • Justjj says:

      Agreed

    • Jaded says:

      Agree. If I went to Mr. Jaded complaining about some guy who man-handled me at a party or in a bar the first thing he’d do would be to tell the guy in no uncertain terms that if he ever f_cking touched me inappropriately again he’d regret it.

    • Yumyum says:

      Agreed. And this Justin guy seemed really good at muddying things and doing just enough to get his kick without crossing into extreme territory. Keep pushing things a little bit more each time so the victim can’t be exactly sure how to react.

    • Friendly Crow says:

      100000%

      It seems like the world was waiting to turn on RR – or at the very least, he’s also being pulled into the smear campaign for trying to address the harassment and abuse his parter/wife was being subjected to.

      RR literally has nothing to do with any of this.

      Him being roped into this is an attempt to muddy the waters of public opinion and to create a bigger mess to distract from the very real claims of sexual harassment that were not addressed in JB’s filing.

  14. Axis2ClusterB says:

    If I was fat shamed and sexually harrassed at work, and my husband was given the opportunity, I feel like a ‘public berating’ might just be warranted. Sometimes, folks need to be told in no uncertain terms to keep loved ones’ names out of their mouths – at least Baldoni didn’t get popped in the mouth at the Oscars!

  15. Smices says:

    I know it’s beside the point, but I can’t help thinking that all this is going down for what was a truly terrible, movie. Terrible script working off equally terrible source material, plus horrendous acting from all three main characters. Just bad.

  16. Tisme says:

    I believe Blake and Ryan 100 %

  17. Patti says:

    I feel like almost everyone involved in this is a terrible person. As a victim of hellish harassment at my last job, I have deep empathy for Blake if what she said is true, but I’ve never been a fan of Ryan and I don’t really trust anything he says or is involved with in terms of controversy. Something continues to seem not quite right about the entire brouhaha—and all of it over a film that no one saw and that got terrible reviews. The whole thing is bizarre!

    • Deering24 says:

      …but IEWU made a ton of money despite the reviews. That’s one of the reasons the fighting here is so vicious–the sequel is at stake, as well as any number of reputations.

  18. Keaton says:

    Baldoni isn’t denying the sexual harassment stuff.
    That’s what it comes down to for me.
    Licking her neck, coo’ing in her ear about how good she smells, putting his hands where she didn’t want him to, rewriting the script for more sex scenes, etc.

    I guess in the end I find it ALOT more believable that Baldoni, like many men before him, handled his power poorly than the idea Blake decided to throw away her time & money on a lawsuit because her ego was damaged.
    Sorry I just don’t buy it.
    He’s guilty and he’s scrambling to muddy the waters to keep his reputation from being destroyed.
    It’s very Trumpian.

    • Deering24 says:

      I get the strong feeling Baldoni did this movie mostly to harass Lively.

      • Raya says:

        That’s kind of a silly take given JB had the rights to the movie for several years before production began and he wasn’t the one who cast BL.

      • Deering24 says:

        Raya–didn’t Baldoni come to Lively offering this project? From what I read, it sounds like she was the only one considered for a joint acting/production deal.

    • Claire says:

      Everyone keeps saying he’s not denying the SH claims. I thought he was? I thought his attorney has said that any sexual talk was in the context of preparing for sexual scenes and that his explanation is that BL refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator early on when scenes were planned out and that he had to relay messages to Blake about what they had talked about for scenes and ideas for the scenes etc. Now I don’t know how standard this is for a film set so I’m not sure any of that actually holds water, but I think he is denying all the SH claims. Ok Al’s ok have no idea how standard it is or isn’t to change scenes a little (including sex scenes), and/or to improvise anything in those scenes (for example Blake’s complain includes that she didn’t like JB biting at her lip during some kissing scene – I really have no idea how standard jt is or isn’t to have a kissing scene choreographed to the t or tj have any improvisation ). I’m very curious about this intimacy coordinator – why wasn’t she present during the actual filming of sexual scenes? It seems there was one early on for planning out scenes that Blake declined to be a part of / meet with, but why wasn’t that person also there during the filming of scenes (or maybe she was and BL just didn’t gel with her and wanted tj hire a different one?)

  19. Veronica S. says:

    At the end of the day, her point stands: why did he hire a company to “bury” her? Why was he engaged in that while putting himself out there as a man who supported women? You can feel Lively and Reynolds are unlikeable people, but that is the sticking point for me. He struck first from behind. That is what has made me skeptical from the start.

    • Raya says:

      Because the writing was kind of on the wall. In Jan 2024 he and his team were called to Blake and Ryan’s penthouse and had a tense conversation about terms for continuing the production. Ryan suddenly was always on set, Blake was demanding to be more involved with all aspects of production, asking for executive producer credit, editing the film, and froze JB out of various events on the summer leading up to the film’s release (including the premiere). Basically the threat she would go public with the sexual harassment claims was always there. Why would he not hire a team to protect him in case Blake decided to go nuclear? In the end his PR team didn’t even need to do a whole lot because Blake didn’t exactly endear herself to the public.

      • Veronica S. says:

        And yet, curiously, he hasn’t denied any of the actual set allegations, and there’s another person with a complaint about the behavior on set. Just saying, putting yourself out there as a man who’s an ally of women and then utilizing a background social media campaign that plays on social misogyny is, ah, questionably contradictory to say the least. I’ll wait to see what else to comes out, but the industry has no small share of trash willing to úse leftist dialogue to protect their social image from the reality. I encounter plenty enough in my field.

    • Friendly Crow says:

      Agreed. He very clearly knew there were valid grievances against him and went tactical from the jump to muddy the waters and to detract from any claims that were made after film promotion.

      The fact that Blake was given very strict guidelines on what to discuss in promotion and received backlash for that while JB used those pr handcuffs to further promote his feminist ally facade is infuriating and disgusting.

  20. Hereforthegossip says:

    I have a Dark Horse Conspiracy Theory that I’ve just come to- what if all of this is secondary (which is why months went by without any further news on the issues on set. ) I’m not saying that none of the allegations happened but what if the real war behind the scenes is about fighting for the rights to the sequel? As in BL & RR want them – to direct AND star in the sequel. She hasn’t had any big films bring as much success like this one did. Gossip Girl was years ago and she is still struggling to stand out and be a leading lady in lucrative films. JB owns the rights but seems very reluctant to think on a sequel based on interviews and rumors of BL & RR making their own cut and writing scenes undermining his role as director. He has clout from a successful show but wasn’t this his first big project? Now the waters are really muddy because although the film was such a financial success he is now being rocked by the label of being a sexual predator director.
    What if this is all strategically being played out in public to force a ‘settlement’ from him in which BL & RR secure the rights behind closed doors (after months of bad press and JB being dropped in Hollywood) in which they withdraw the lawsuit and say they came to an amicable agreement. Because in Hollywood you can’t wait too long when coming out with the sequel to a lucrative *non comic book* box office smash hence why films like Wicked filmed both and already have the sequel scheduled to release in 2025. I know this seems crude but I know the entertainment industry can be Machiavellian like this.

    As I said they will both be ruined by this.
    Taking off my tin hat now lol

    • Friendly Crow says:

      I think it’s too risky a move.

      Plus it doesn’t factor in why JB started the smear campaign before the movie was even released. RR and BL didn’t know it would be a hit at that time and from the generated societal rage directed BL’s way – they very likely thought it would tank. Most people did.

      JB has proven himself to be a snake.

  21. Anonymous says:

    Iam so sick of all of them. Justin seems like a unpleasant person but unfortunately also blake or Ryan doesn’t come out as a better person. Sometimes it is better to let bygones be bygones and move on. Nobody is going to come out as a winner here.

  22. Renee says:

    The court case will he interesting. Justin is saying he neither saw nor signed that 30 point demand list and then there’s Blake’s team took sentence for sentence out of Baldoni’s book to make some of the rather egregious claims, omitting text message s. Also, while Blake did file a complaint about SA, she isn’t suing Baldoni for SA. I am assuming because proving SA isn’t possible with some of the receipts I see Justin coming up with. Last time when I said complete truth is not on either side, its somewhere in the middle, people were screaming. I stand by it, what actually happened during and after filming is probably a mix of both sides. I am going to wait till after trial because I feel certain this will get incredibly messy.

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