I saw some people posting this Daily Mail headline over the weekend, and it seemed very strange, like the Mail was poking Prince William for some reason. I mean, I think I know the reason(s), but still. The headline: “The secret posh pecking order: Our high society insider reveals the REAL ranking and rivalry of blue bloods, from the top-tier toff every husband wants to bed, to the C-list woman William calls when he wants to blow off steam.” Absolutely fascinating, right? It’s almost as if (once again) they want to yank on William and Kate’s leashes and get them off their asses somehow. The piece was written by Charlotte Griffiths (the same one bitching about how Harry and Meghan call each other “my wife/husband”), and it’s full of all sorts of shady sh-t. First of all, the “top-tier toff every husband wants to bed” is exactly who you think it is: Rose Hanbury. Some highlights:
Proximity to the Windsors determines your A-list status: As a long-time observer of the in-crowd, I can tell you that behind the perfect teeth, and even more perfect manners, these elite circles harbour intense rivalries. The ultimate test of who is ‘in’ is still judged by proximity to the Royal Family. Beyond that, social influence and good old-fashioned money are the things that count.
Top of the A-list: Top of everyone’s dream guest-list is Rose Hanbury, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley (pronounced ‘Chumley’). The 40-year-old entered the A list in 2009 when she married the 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley and became chatelaine of Houghton Hall, a 106-room neo-Palladian pile in Norfolk built for Britain’s first Prime Minister Horace Walpole, bedecked with chinoiserie and hand-printed wallpaper.
Enigmatic & cool Rose Hanbury: Rose has remained top-tier ever since her marriage – and is a source of endless fascination in high society, which is why she gets invited to everything. However, very few ‘stiffy’ invitations – the nickname for those written on card so stiff it can’t be folded – are grand enough for her to accept, so it’s tricky to earn a place on her marble mantlepiece. Part of her allure is that she’s enigmatic and choosy about her friends. Invitations to Houghton are like gold dust. She tends to mix only with a trusted inner circle of fellow Norfolk ‘Turnip Toffs’, the name given to the county’s landowning set.
Absolutely fascinating: At parties, I have noticed that Rose often slinks into the shadows, preferring private chats with girlfriends to dancing on tables. More beguiling in real-life than she is in photographs (she’s not so consistently photogenic as her neighbour the Princess of Wales), most husbands secretly – and not so secretly – fancy Rose. When it comes to royal circles, Rose ticks this box too. Much mischief is spoken of her being the Princess of Wales’s ‘rural rival’ in Norfolk’s social hierarchy but they are close friends. One wouldn’t imagine that the Princess’s sister Pippa would have named her younger daughter ‘Rose’ if there was any tension between the two women.
Prince William’s friendship with a C-lister: If you measure aristocratic clout by your royal friends then Susanna Warren, 36, has certainly earned her place thanks to being the first person Prince William calls when he needs to blow off steam. On those increasingly rare occasions when he decides to go ‘out-out’, it’s velvet-rope queen Susanna, whom William calls ‘Suze’, who can help. She’s events director at Camden’s trendiest members club House of Koko. Despite the insalubrious location, Koko is a hot ticket and William was spotted dad dancing there in 2023 with his best friend Guy Pelly, Susanna’s ex-boyfriend. She may not flaunt her connections but underneath Susanna’s bashful demeanour lies a steely woman with 17 years of loyal service in the inner royal circle.
The thing about William “needing to blow off steam” is so interesting, because there’s a conspiracy of silence about William’s whereabouts and activities on a daily level. Occasionally, over the years, people will get a glimpse of how he parties without Kate, or goes to clubs with his bros or goes to dinner with some mystery woman. And then there’s zero follow-up and the press plays dumb about how the Wales marriage is being held together with a flimsy piece of string. As for the Rose Hanbury stuff… lmao, Pippa naming her daughter “Rose” is cited as the reason why the affair rumors are false. Yeah. Enigmatic, cool, not-so-photogenic Rose who slinks off to corners and gets the attention of all the toff husbands. Sure. Nothing to see here, folks!
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- Rose Hanbury (left) arrives at the State Banquet at Buckingham Palace, London, on day one of US President Donald Trump’s three day state visit to the UK. Picture date: Monday June 3, 2019. .,Image: 531562646, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, Model Release: no, Credit line: – / Avalon
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- Rose Hanbury (left) arrives at the State Banquet at Buckingham Palace, London, on day one of US President Donald Trump’s three day state visit to the UK. Picture date: Monday June 3, 2019. .,Image: 531562646, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: NO UK USE FOR 48 HOURS- Fee Payable Upon reproduction – For queries contact Avalon sales@Avalon.red London +44 20 7421 6000 Los Angeles +1 310 822 0419 Berlin +49 30 76 212 251 Madrid +34 91 533 42 89, Model Release: no, Credit line: – / Avalon
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- Sarah Rose Hanbury and David Cholmondeley, 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley, at the Coronation of King Charles III at Westminster Abbey, London, on 06 May 2023.,Image: 774202187, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: James Veysey/Shutterstock / Avalon
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- Sarah Rose Hanbury and David Cholmondeley, 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley, at the Coronation of King Charles III at Westminster Abbey, London, on 06 May 2023.,Image: 774202212, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: James Veysey/Shutterstock / Avalon
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- Sarah Rose Hanbury and David Cholmondeley, 7th Marquess of Cholmondeley, at the Coronation of King Charles III at Westminster Abbey, London, on 06 May 2023.,Image: 774271057, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: James Veysey/Shutterstock / Avalon
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- KING’S LYNN, ENGLAND – JUNE 22: HRH Prince William and Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge attend a gala dinner in support of East Anglia’s Children’s Hospices’ nook appeal at Houghton Hall on June 22, 2016 in King’s Lynn, England.
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- KING’S LYNN, ENGLAND – JUNE 22: HRH Prince William and Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge are greeted by Rose Cholmondeley, the Marchioness of Cholmondeley as they attend a gala dinner in support of East Anglia’s Children’s Hospices’ nook appeal at Houghton Hall on June 22, 2016 in King’s Lynn, England.
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- The Prince of Wales during a visit to Centrepoint in Ealing, west London to meet young people being supported by the charity. The centre in Ealing provides 17 beds for young people aged 16 to 25 experiencing homelessness, as well as support services such as employment opportunities and access to education and counselling to help users build an independent future. This year marks the 20th anniversary of William being a patron of Centrepoint, a youth homeless charity Featuring: William, Prince of Wales Where: London, United Kingdom When: 21 Jan 2025 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Prince of Wales during a visit to Centrepoint in Ealing, west London to meet young people being supported by the charity. The centre in Ealing provides 17 beds for young people aged 16 to 25 experiencing homelessness, as well as support services such as employment opportunities and access to education and counselling to help users build an independent future. This year marks the 20th anniversary of William being a patron of Centrepoint, a youth homeless charity Featuring: William, Prince of Wales Where: London, United Kingdom When: 21 Jan 2025 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Prince of Wales during a visit to Centrepoint in Ealing, west London to meet young people being supported by the charity. The centre in Ealing provides 17 beds for young people aged 16 to 25 experiencing homelessness, as well as support services such as employment opportunities and access to education and counselling to help users build an independent future. This year marks the 20th anniversary of William being a patron of Centrepoint, a youth homeless charity Featuring: William, Prince of Wales Where: London, United Kingdom When: 21 Jan 2025 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Prince of Wales during a visit to Centrepoint in Ealing, west London to meet young people being supported by the charity. The centre in Ealing provides 17 beds for young people aged 16 to 25 experiencing homelessness, as well as support services such as employment opportunities and access to education and counselling to help users build an independent future. This year marks the 20th anniversary of William being a patron of Centrepoint, a youth homeless charity Featuring: William, Prince of Wales Where: London, United Kingdom When: 21 Jan 2025 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- The Prince of Wales, known as the Duke of Rothesay when in Scotland, during a visit to East Scryne Farm in Carnoustie, Angus, to attend a roundtable hosted by the Farm Safety Foundation (Yellow Wellies), a charity working throughout the UK to address the attitudes and behaviours to farm safety and poor mental health in the next generation of farmers Featuring: Prince William, Prince of Wales, Duke Of Rothesay Where: Carnoustie, United Kingdom When: 06 Feb 2025 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
The Mail is pissed at the Wales’ for not going to the BAFTAS so they’re taking it out on them with this article.
I don’t think it has anything to do with the Baftas. They are furious about not having access to the Sussexes and the Wales’ not being the carbon copies they were supposed to be.
I think the windsor calendar is one month ahead because Meg postponed her show. They got nothing left. So british press is bringing out their real secret weapon, Rose, to counter invictus because invictus is just too big and beautiful
I know right!! This little piece is something. They are certainly angry with Peg about something. Who is wanting this put out there? Horsilla, Carole or Chuckles.
I can see it coming from Camilla. But it’s for something we don’t know about, yet.
I have often thought that the whole Rose Hanbury stories were with the full approval of Charles and/or Camilla. I imagine its a weird position – it seems the Windsors and the public have pinned all their hopes on William being this happy stable family man, but I also imagine there’s another side to it.
If I’m Charles or Camilla, and I’ve been vilified for decades for having an affair, and I know that the current PoW has also had multiple affairs and cheats on his wife regularly while pushing the perfect marriage narrative – I might feel some kind of way about that and play some games in the press.
I had some reaction last February or whenever it was, when Camilla announced a two week vacation in the midst of all the cancer and surgeries news. That wasn’t about an actual vacation – I mean she does that regularly without announcing it. That was a dig at William who peaced out of working the minute Kate’s surgery was announced.
I kind of wonder if this is a similar thing.
@Becks1, that begs the question, why Charles and Camilla don’t just get the press to go ahead and publish stories about William’s affairs? Why are they so afraid of William’s reaction?
@Lauren I think it’s like Beckhams knighthood, it’s more powerful while they keep it hanging over him and giving people a little taste from time to time. They won’t actually blow his cover unless it’s really worth using the ultimate weapon and there wouldn’t be any coming back from that.
@Lauren it might be the kind of thing where they’re giving the impression of trying to keep it under wraps but really want the press to put it out there. That’s why I said I think its a weird position – they want the Waleses to be seen as this stable loving family. that’s their whole selling point, that’s what the Firm has been pushing for YEARS – Kate’s “commoner” background was a good thing because it meant the kids were going to be raised “normal” and William had “the family he always wanted” and all of that. C&C are going to be aware of that PR narrative and they probably generally approve of it.
but I imagine it has to sting if they know its a lie so they let these tidbits out there.
Or maybe the press has been told to keep quiet until there’s an official announcement? If they want to avoid the War of the Wales Part II, they may want to keep things relatively quiet for as long as they can.
I don’t know. its a weird situation. I just can’t believe this story has been out there for as long as it has without the tacit approval of someone at Clarence house.
It’s wild when you think about it.
Charles and Camilla hated Diana for not silently putting up with their affair and accepting it.
And now they hate Kate for silently putting up with the abuse and the cheating because it elevates someone else who 1- doesn’t deserve it and 2- when they didn’t get that.
They hate Kate because Diana wasn’t Kate. And they hate Diana for not being Kate. They feel robbed.
@FriendlyCrow YES. Perfectly said!
I doubt they hate her, there isnt enough there there with kate to raise more than an ‘eh’ level of emotion related to her. Shes of no use to the brf, and charles would be happy if william divorced her.
Kate chose to be Williams secret bedmate for years while he went after other women. She chose to be in a relationship with a man who cheated all the time. A man who called her sex waiting because that was all he considered her to be. She chose to marry him because she wanted a title, knowing that him cheating was always part of the deal.
There’s no way C&C would ever expose something as serious as an affair because that would inflict serious damage on themselves. Leaking little hints and negative stories is one thing, but why on earth would C&C burn their own house down with themselves inside??
Leaking an affair would destabilise the entire monarchy and certainly cause a massive scandal that they would both be affected by just as much as William.
Any affair by William would unquestionably focus a hell of a lot of attention onto their relationship and the fact their marriage started as an affair (remember, Charles has spent millions trying to rewrite the past on his relationship with Camilla). The last thing they want is their own affair dredged up by the media after so many years and on all the tabloids front covers.
A William affair would also direct a lot of negative attention and negative speculation onto Charles as a father. Why would Charles deliberately put himself in a position where every tabloid in Britain is saying that he’s a terrible father and saying “William cheated because Charles cheated on his mum, Diana” – the very last thing Charles wants is for the British public to be reminded of Diana and the fact he cheated on her. Much less have his parenting dragged over in the national press.
The affair story becoming public would be Titanic-level disastrous for C&C.
LOL. No, Carole, the open knowledge of William’s affairs would not destabilize the monarchy. A W&K divorce wouldn’t either.
Charles and Camilla’s reputations would be improved if it was widely recognized that William is a constant cheater. If W&K divorce, it makes Charles and Camilla look better.
No one cares about affairs now. Less that 30 percent of people in the UK belong to CoE, divorces are not the moral or religious catastrophe they seen as 100 years ago. They are an every day part of life for all families, including repeatedly the BRF.
Trying again because the first one didn’t post.
William’s affairs and a W&K divorce will help Charles and Camilla’s PR. Shows that all of Bill’s PR is only PR. Charles doesn’t care what happens to the monarchy after him, so Bill held accountable publicly for his behavior is A-OK with Charles.
Another affair, another divorce in the BRF isn’t going to break anything. No one cares if these two divorce, it isn’t a scandal, it isn’t a downfall. Divorce is not the moral and social catastrophe it was perceived as 100 years ago. Most people experience divorce somewhere in their family, the BRF is no exception.
The downfall will come because of their racism, their collusion with tabloids, their laziness, their billion a year in costs for doing nothing useful. Not from two mismatched people divorcing after a relationship that should have died at Uni.
Agree, there was this article, plus the “Daily Mail Remembers” piece over the weekend all about William and Kate on Uncle Gary’s yacht and at Maison de Bang Bang…interestingly, with the same phrase about William “blowing off steam.” Not to mention the popbitch article about the Daily Mail hemorraghing money, and we’ve got a shot across the Royal bow…
@Friendly Crow, you nailed it!! ITA. I already can’t stand C+C, but they’re even more hypocritical than I previously thought (which is *really* saying something).
@Becks, I agree with everything you said—this article is just…bizarre, like this weird push-and-pull about how much info to reveal? And *just* enough language to throw suspicion on/rattle William (e.g. his needing to “blow off steam” and not with his wife).
And I don’t think Pippa’s naming her daughter Rose means “there’s no tension” between Kate and Rose, it just seems like Pippa and Kate aren’t as close as they used to be, and I think Pippa probably didn’t care or think it was a huge deal? Who knows, but I don’t think it’s dispositive either way. (And BTW I hope you wrote my contact info down before deleting your account! There have been a couple of things I’ve been dying to show you!)
William looks very scruffy with a beard. This picture with Rose, she looks uncomfortable, Willy looks smug and Kate has the ‘he’s mine,’ smug look.
Just had another thought. I also think this is to rile up the simple will and kate, this report would mean for william, that not only they are kind of re-exposing his rosebushing, but also, this reveals that his wife, is not the desired trophy for others, is not THE one they want to bed, the mysterious one , the one with sex appeal, etc, although she is the untouchable one closest to the heir. She is just blah.
This would make hot incandescent head pursue rose even more and make kate reveal herself in a more attractive way than being an at home lazying around with kids persona, to win this toff competition. William would approve, he wants the top mistress and the top wife
I think we make a mistake thinking about the Wales marriage as “a marriage”, to me is more a business relationship, nothing more.
Rose and David definitely have a business marriage. It seems like she runs the estate while he jets off to Paris to live with his bestie and noted criminal Francois Marie Banier.
Is that what is termed in those circles ‘ a lilac marriage ‘ ? I may have got the term wrong. If so I’m sure someone will know the correct terminology.
@AOC – i always heard the term lavender marriage but lilac could be another one…
Traditionally most marriages have been business arrangements and romantic love the stuff of novels. But the Marquises (I assume that’s the plural) are probably best friends. The weirdness with W & K is that they so clearly are not.
@Mightymolly – Seems to me it was a business arrangement for William and Carole, but for Kate not so much. As soon as there are unfulfilled expectations / hopes between two people, a friendship is as good as impossible.
Exactly. I doubt Rose and her husband have ever actually had sex (children probably conceived via IVF). William and Kate started as genuine dating and sexual relationship, but POW is a job title, basically, and one she started auditioning for very young.
Doubtful. If anything, David is bisexual. Otherwise they would have married and THEN gotten pregnant, not gotten pregnant before they married and had a shotgun wedding.
I would believe that, but I would also believe, Kate put a condition to Will not to embarrass her publicly or not to fool around with people around her. First, Will was caught dancing with other women on vacation with his bros, then he (allegedly) fooled around with their neighbor, Kate socialized with. I think, that is what bothered her and why she tried to oust Rose from the society, but then the other aristos quickly reminded her of her place.
That was a warning to William. The press aren’t happy that Harry and Meghan keep thriving and they have no access to them or their events. They’re also angry because Harry is still going to trial against them and the family hasn’t done anything to stop it. They’ve been shading William and Kate for the last few days. I also get the sense that some of these reporters are tired of being attached to the losing team.
100% this.
It was their choice all along: destroy the Sussexes and attach their wagon to the dull losers.
My theory is British Media got bored of kate. No events, no dress, no glitters…… they know the truth. But can’t spill. And they want a new women to grace the covers.
Harry is coming for the Fail for the Fail in Jan 2026 and the rag has fired a warning shot at William. Someone figured out the BM could recoup their losses by exposing the Wales marriage. War of the Waleses 2.0 = money.
@Aquarius, I’ve been waiting (very impatiently!) for YEARS for them to come to this financial realization. I hope we’re getting closer to that point. They could start ~printing money~ by finally telling the truth about William and the Wales marriage.
All other reasoning aside, people are sick and tired of the same old Sussex bashing. It’s the same crap rehashed over and over again and from what I’ve read here, it seems like even some DM readers are over it. It’s been the same repetitive garbage for five years!
Bless her heart, Rose ISN’T very photogenic. Maybe she has an alluring personality?
I just thought it was funny comparing her to the consistently photogenic Kate….bc well Kate is not always consistently photogenic as we’ve seen. Not trying to be shady but few people are. But Kate is consistently hamming it up and smiling widely as opposed to Rose who in the few pictures we see of her is not. It speaks to rose being able to be more bts whereas Kate as the heir’s wife, has a contract to fulfill for the tabloids.
Rose was a model, I think she’s plenty photogenic.
She can be. And so can Kate. It’s more just that Kate is consistently cheezing for photo-ops while Rose doesn’t have to. They have different roles. And technically, Kate could be photographed without freeze-framing gigantic smiles. That part is a choice.
i will say i agree with the author’s use of the word consistently. in some pictures, she looks absolutely stunning, in others quite plain. maybe it’s because we’ve seen kate’s camera work for years, but i think it’s kind of charming that rose isn’t aware (or doesn’t care) about her angles or whatnot all the time.
And yet…Rose Hanbury was literally a professional model before becoming a professional trophy spouse, so…how does she not know her angles? What a weird explanation from the Mail.
This story does not make sense in many ways – it keeps contradicting itself.
Further contradictions: if proximity to the Royal Family is what earns top status in this silly aristo circles (and yes, DM, we heard your unsubtle subtext that if RF proximity = top tier = Rose Hanbury, then by the transitive property of equality she was indeed pegging Peg), then how is William’s current fling only C-list? Shouldn’t she be top tier by that logic?
While I’m here with my popcorn for whatever behind-the-scenes royal drama is fueling this particularly juicy/snarky article, it – like Rose Hanbury’s photegenic qualities apparently – is very inconsistent. Make up your mind, DM writers!
They mean consistently PHOTOSHOP PED keen who is extremely plain looking otherwise. Rose doesn’t need or get photoshopping
I can agree with them saying that Rose isn’t consistently photogenic, but for them to compare her to Kate as “always being photogenic” is a joke. Not only does Kate have to have her photos consistently photoshopped, her photos aren’t consistently photogenic. She has consistent weird facial expressions. She’s consistently wearing wigs and hairpieces that are obvious through her photos. She has been photographed with her clothes blowing up in the wind. So she isn’t consistently photogenic.
@DK, your mistake is in expecting logic or consistency (even in the same article!) from a DF writer. 🫠 Those skills aren’t really their thing.
A lot of modelling is extremely nepotistic. It’s not like Rose was on the cover of Vogue. Even people who follow the modelling world and high fashion runway world closely had never heard of her before the William story.
100 agree @samuelwhiskers. I havent once seen her in any magazines or runway shows.
I’m American and may be reading the tone wrong, but I believe the photogenic comparisons are a dig at Kate. They are t saying Rose isn’t pretty or even photogenic. They are laughing at Kate’s immature and gauche presentation (including summer douche commercial)
I think they deliberately publish bad photos, just as they publish photoshopped Keen pics. If you do an image search you’ll find unflattering pics of Rose, but you’ll also find ones where her vivacity and attractiveness shows. Much like Jecca, the appeal isn’t always seen in a still photo especially the ones the press chooses to publish.
@LoLab
I get that. I worked with a woman for years who wasn’t photogenic at all (her words) but she had most of the men absolutely pole axed. It was hysterical to watch and drove the “attractive” women crazy.
She was polite to everyone but held herself away from being friendly. Did her job, went her own way and lived her life.
So whatever Rose isn’t, apparently whatever she IS, makes her a hot commodity
I think its partially that’s she not super photogenic, and I also think she doesnt pose the same way Kate does when she’s out and about with photographers. Kate is always looking for the best angle, best shot, etc. It’s also likely that the press only runs the bad pictures of Rose.
I find photogenic vs non-photogenic to be such an interesting discussion. Someone on here a few years ago said that it has to do with how features translate to a “flat” medium – i.e. going from full dimensions in real life to a flat photograph.
I have friends who are super photogenic and friends who just aren’t but are gorgeous in real life and its fascinating to me.
(I am not photogenic. at all. whomp whomp)
Bingo! Kate’s raison d’être is to be photographed flashing her pearly whites. Rose is not tuned in to the notion that paps may be hiding around every corner, nor is she seeking them out, so she just walks around like most of the rest of us showing ordinary resting b***h face.
@Becks I’ve seen a picture of you and I beg to disagree! You are very photogenic IMO
@Becks1
Oh same. I thought that I was not vain at all but these days I try not to be in the picture because I’m old and saggy and wrinkly 😎
I prefer to be behind the camera and not in it
Side note: I have no problem with aging at all, but I dunno, sometimes it catches me off guard when I see myself in pictures. I look in the mirror and think “that can’t be right” but it is, it is.
The pictures I’ve seen where Rose looks stunning are mostly taken from an above angle. Like she’s reclining or seated on something, and the focus is her eyes, and this part is going to sound mean, downplaying her lower jaw. The shade is off the charts here
That one photo is kate at a good angle and Rose is not. It is also several years old. If we look at Rose at the queens funeral or recent events, she looks better and Kate when she isn’t photo shopped to death looks rough. Rose doesn’t have the UK media removing all the lines and wrinkles for her, nor do they remove all the puffy eyed photos that the Danish press managed to capture.
Meghan is photogenic. She’s looking amazing without makeup, something Kate could never do.
Meghan looks beautiful whether she is smiling or not, Kate only looks good when she has a grin on her face, the rest of the time she looks ordinary.
Meghan is on another level photogenic. I do kind of feel bad for Kate in that I think she cares about how she looks in photos, as many people do.. I would too!, and very few people are able to exude Meghan’s glow. And even Rose has emulated Meghan in wearing those altazurra shoes. I sure as heck wouldn’t put out a lie that someone made me cry just bc I was jealous though.
Meghan doesn’t wear foundation and she has beautiful skin.
But it’s pretty clear that she usually wears some makeup. In particular she plays up her eyes.
And I agree Meghan is incredibly photogenic.
She probably wears foundation when she’s going to be photographed at events? even with her good skin! But what I love is that she’s always clear in her appreciation for the art of makeup and a good MUA. She makes sure to call out her friend Daniel when he does her make-up. She lets us see him doing her face and others doing her hair in the Netflix series. She’s lucky/priveledged to have access to really good people and she gives them credit. I want highbrow hippie to do my hair color and Daniel to do my make-up!
To be fair, it is backhanded, but they are saying that Rose is sexy in person, and I can believe that! Some people are just captivating and draw others in – I believe the kids call it “rizz”, haha.
I also think there is an unspoken snobbism – Kate’s “pretty” enough, but they are kind of saying there’s not much “there” there. Rose certainly has taste, style, and she understands all of the silent class markers that Kate never grew up with.
I do not understand the allure of Rose Hambury. She looks like she has an overbite. She has a plain face. I guess among the aristocrats and all those she’s a 10?
In any event I hope the press continues these stories to stick it to the Waleses lol
Her personality must count for much of that, from photos all I see is bad posture and no chin/jawline she isn’t homely but she certainly is no beauty either.
I think it’s above all her style. She has that frumpy old money air and her home shows she has great tastes and probably knows a fair bit about art and history.
That’s part of why I think Charlotte Griffith has no idea what’s she’s talking about. She’s referencing the perfect teeth of aristos but I’m pretty sure that’s actually not part of being an aristo. Don’t they famously eschew teeth whitening and that kind of stuff? As part of that grumpy old money air. It has the feel of someone from outside aristo circles talking about aristo circles and not quite getting it.
@jais haha that made me laugh as well.
(Referring to brits with perfect white teeth)
Right? it just feels like the DM version of a Tatler article. Classing women in their castes but not 100% getting the characteristics.
@Jais, I am so glad I wasn’t the only one thrown by the “teeth” reference!!
ETA: @Hannah, lmao at your below comment!
Not sure why they go on about teeth when Kate clearly has veneers.
Right — there’s nothing that catches the fancy of a wayward husband like a strong jawline
Well her profile has none it’s like her chin is sinking into her throat .. but everyone’s likes something different I guess.
Agree, Hannah1. William sought out, and continues to seek out, Rose for a relationship. Friendship, bedmate, both and whatever. Like Jecca, she provides something for William that Kate doesn’t so the relationship continues.
Yanking the chains,maybe. Or something else happened they can’t report on and they get to publish this as a compromise.
What was the real reason for this weird piece?
I think it was meant to be a catty society catalogue. With barbs aimed at the Wales for added oomph and clicks. It’s bizarre to label a woman as the one most husbands want to have an affair with imo. But I guess it’s an aristo thing. And a reference to the rumors.
This my big takeaway here. What a weird piece – what is the reason for it?
It tells us how alluring and attractive Rose is in person, it tells us that all the husbands want her, it reminds us of the “rural rivals” story, and then it tells us about this other woman that William calls when he wants to “blow off steam.”
when my husband needs downtime away from me (I am delightful FTR but sometimes he does need a break lmao), he calls a friend and then go golfing or meet for a drink. And one of his BFFs for his entire life is a female, so while she’s out of state now, its not unusual for him to get home from driving and tell me he was talking to her.
This…..does not sound like that. It sounds like they’re trying to not-so-subtly imply that William has had an affair with both Rose and “Suze.”
but why?
I know! My husband goes to play golf with friends too, or out for lunch, or to play pickle ball with his brother. He has female friends (mostly through work, to be fair), but he doesn’t look to them to “blow off steam.” This article is telling.
It’s a weird piece, but I think it was written to yank Will’s chain (and Kate’s).
I think what the author really wanted to highlight the C-lister that Will calls to “blow off steam,” and the Rose stuff was put in there to remind everyone of the old cheating rumors (and give cover in a way to the C-lister, because a story about her alone if she is indeed “C” would be blatant). The rota rats are getting bored with Will and Kate’s current goings on.
I actually can’t tell if it was implying that William had an affair with Suze. The impression I got is that he calls her to arrange private outings for him at various hot spots. To arrange spaces where he can be with whoever he wants without having to worry about who will see. He could be having a thing with Suze but I also just get the feeling that Suze procures specific experiences for him. Ones that will help him let off steam. Something he should maybe be doing with his wife?
Completely agree @tigermcqueen. This is a way of saying he’s having an affair with the c-lister without saying he’s having an affair. “Blowing off steam” just sounds very sexually coded and by bringing up the Rose stuff she’s alluding to that circle’s extramarital habits.
“a female”? 🥴
@jais: that was my interpretation as well – she arranges things or procures humans for him, as if she’s a modern Ghislaine Maxwell.
That was the vibe I got @ncboudicca. Not saying suze is Ghislaine Maxwell necessarily but let’s say William has a side piece and wants to go out private but in a party space, so she arranges it. Or he wants to go out and she makes sure there are attractive and discreet women. At the same time, he could be having something with her too, idk? For me, it’s the fact that they are letting us know that William needs to let off steam and this woman arranges it, whatever that means, and Kate is not the one helping. As maybe she did in the past. We always hear that Kate calms William. Not sure I totally believe that but I can believe she has at certain times. But she’s not anymore.
@TigerMcQueen, I think that’s probably it, too. (Plus, ANY reason to throw Rose’s name into an article is an opportunity to yank Will’s chain and put him on notice.)
I think Kate goes after women she’s jealous of (ie Megan) and tried to go after Rose to take her down a peg. Then the real blue bloods said “nope” and circled their wagons. I don’t believe for a second that the 2 are close.
I can’t imagine they are close. The toffs look down on Kate and her family, plus she comes accross as boring, with no intellectual curiosity to speak of. What I don’t believe either is that the toff ranking is determined by proximity to the Windsors. There are older and more established families than them, see the Spencers or the Grosvenors.
You’re right about proximity to the BRF. Maybe lower ranking toff wannabes are champing at the bit to befriend WanK but they’re both (especially Kate the middle class parvenu) not top drawer toffs. Add to that her mean girl personality, her complete indifference to and dislike of actually working to improve herself, and her inability to string 3 words together without reading off cards shows how little she has to offer. Then look at Rose — she’s intelligent, refined, has turned Houghton Hall into a masterpiece, does a lot of charity work via events held there, she’s the whole package. She’s cultured, interesting, knowledgeable, she’s the perfect toff. When you see her at events she’s always dressed down in something elegant but comfortable. She doesn’t load herself up with big jewelry, she isn’t overly made up, she is simplicity defined. Next to her Kate looks cheap and overdone. Rose knows she doesn’t have to rely on clothes, makeup and jewelry to outshine everyone, she has more important qualities, and that’s what men probably find attractive. She’s far from “basic” or “not very attractive” as some commenters are saying, she simply doesn’t need to glamourize like Kate does. I’ve known women who aren’t drop dead gorgeous but have a more subtle attractiveness that comes not just from a pretty face but from a more ineffable beauty — a combination of intelligence, charisma, a bit of mystery, Rose has that in spades.
@Jaded
I agree with everything you stated. I think that the most important this she exudes is confidence. She’s quite accomplished in her own right, running that huge estate as a business while quietly raising her family without the endless mentioning ‘doing the school run’ like it takes all day; doing endless charity events at her home to support local causes, all while appearing like an actual real woman who is naturally chic and comfortable in her own skin. Oh, and she doesn’t constantly rely on her mother (as far as we know) to coddle her and run her household. All things ‘our Kate’ is definitely not!
ITA, and I think that definitely could have been one of the other reasons that Kate saw Rose as her “rival” — Rose clearly has interests that she’s knowledgeable about and I imagine enjoys talking about, and Kate knows herself well enough to know that she’s not capable of having a substantive conversation about, well, anything. I’m sure she felt like she looked bad in that regard in comparison to Rose (and she’d be right).
Although attempting to banish Rose from her own circle of friends was certainly a bold way of Kate to try and manage the situation 🫠
Rose is a cross between Anne Hathaway and Rose Byrne.
I just see a basic woman.
I’m not even buying that the two had an affair because ugh aside from his rank why would you want to. But I think he definitely did want to and the article is alluding to that.
Maybe the Middletons started that rumor in the first place.
Power, favors, bragging rights. The same reasons women have bedded POWs for centuries.
The gag order and William threatening to sue in EU Court of Human Rights wasn’t over poor Kate’s feelings over an affair that never happened. It is because it happened and there’s proof among the Turnip Toffs. Her own brother was one of many who outed it.
IMO William and Rose did have an affair and are still occasional bedmates, starting long before anyone was paying attention. Like right after the move to Anmer Hall.
Wait, I missed that James Middleton acknowledged the William-Rose affair!
No, not Jame M. Rose’s brother.
Rose’s drunk brother, not JMiddy. Some of the first rumors of the affair came from him oversharing at a pub.
“Power, favors, bragging rights.” Exactly this. There are women out there having sex with Donald Trump – willingly!! Cheryl Hines is still married to worm brain.
I will always remember Charles’s words when he was outed over his affair with Camilla – “I refuse to be the only Prince of Wales who doesn’t have a mistress!” William is a chip off the old block.
There are many different confirmations that there was an affair after Charlotte was born. And Rose would be convenient because she’s close by and her husband is often in France with his boyfriend. She’s also not someone who is looking to get divorced and marry William. That’s appealing too. Rose’s brother confirming the dinners he would attend at Houghton Hall and then suddenly that passage was removed basically confirmed it for me.
i agree with normades on this. @alteya-rose already has all those things you mention with her current husband. why rock the boat with someone who can’t give you more than you already have? and i think william’s lawsuit threats had less to do with kate’s feelings (ha!) than with protecting his own reputation. i think he thinks it gives him cache to be associated this way with rose, and he doesn’t want the truth (that they’ve just been friends) to actually come out. i’m an idiot, but i guess i have a soft spot for rose? i don’t know why. she’s probably as awful as anyone else involved, but i’d hate to be publicly associated with this mess like she is.
Because husbands have historically looked the other way – or encouraged – their wives to have affairs with royals. Because Rose and her husband have an agreement? The Hanbury marriage isn’t the one in danger, IMO they’re fine and both getting what they want out of the deal.
William’s lawsuit was about shutting down freedom of the press about anything related to his personal life, as he has done for years. He’s an autocrat in the making. This was just the affair (of many) that made it to the news cycle. Because Kate tried to force the Toffs to choose her over Rose – and everyone laughed up their sleeves and quietly got the word out about the affair and their support of Rose.
I feel like Rose and her husband have the very typical aristo transactional marriage. I imagine they get along well enough, and have their three children together, but I imagine they live separate lives – and not with animosity or anger. It’s just part of the standard aristo deal. they attend the big events together, host gatherings or charity events or whatever at Houghton, travel together, and then spend a lot of time doing their own things.
@mblates – Rose Hanbury’s husband, the Marquess of Cholmondeley, allegedly spends a lot of time with a male friend in France. Read into that what you will. The antics of the British Aristocracy over the centuries are legendary.
Sorry, I meant to address the above comment about Rose Hanbury’s husband to @Becks1, not @mblates.
@MBlates, I don’t even think I realized it until I read your comment, lol, but I feel the same way about Rose. Because everyone believes she had an affair (or has an ongoing friends-with-benefits situation) with William, and if in fact none of that ever happened, that sucks for her. I get that her marriage is an “arrangement,” but it can’t be fun to live knowing that any time the BM wants to mess with Will, they can just publish an article about her and that will get the job done.
@Irene: I’m dying to know how much longer Cheryl Hines is going to hang on. She looks so unhappy whenever we’ve seen her for like the past year.
She and David both do not care, or perceive it as a badge of honor in some way. They’re not troubled by the ongoing affair, William obviously isn’t, but Kate, Carole, and Keen stans are furious and in deep denial.
Ok, first of all my brain did a record scratch at “perfect teeth.” And then “yikes” – what a bitchy, bitchy article. No subtext, just all-out attack.
Take note Will and Kate – tabloids gotta tabloid. This is what happens when you don’t have Harry and Meghan to cover for you.
Haha I paused at “perfect teeth” too. Lol
The tabloid propaganda machine got tired of chasing their tails with the H and M hate. They got no real talking points or substance to counter the Murdoch settlement or IG other than confusing updates on why Kate never works and then a “launch” of an early years crap the next day. Huevo is beig told to get his shit together. Maybe by KC and Cam too.
It is a bit awkward for the DM to attack H and M when we all know they are doing good, especially when it comes to wounded servicemen. Charles was a clutz for not sending a message to the British team.
SAME re: “perfect teeth.” Has this author seen William!?
@Sunnyside, I really hope that Charles course-corrects and does the right thing w/r/t Invictus, and at the very least, gives them a shout-out via tweet or something. I mean, JFC, talk about petty! These are *injured veterans* we’re talking about here, for the love of god.
Think about it. These people spend all their energy sucking up to the Windsors to feel like they’re special and important and Harry and Meghan peaced out of the whole situation. That’s why they’re all so mad. How dare H&M cast aside those oh-so-important people and thrive and be happy without them! Meghan especially was supposed to put up with abuse and suck up and beg for acceptance from this group of stodgy Toffs until one day they deigned to cast her a few crumbs of conditional acceptance. I mean after all, she’s only an actress, and she’s American (God help her)!
Thank God the Sussexes broke free from this lot and are making their own happiness. Worst of all Will and Kate keep having their tantrums because H&M are supposed to want to be like them and covet their position at the top of the social hierarchy, H&M have moved on…
Oh well. Too bad, so sad.
@Angelica, yup, exactly, which is why they feel the need to decry anyone who associates with the Sussexes as “too Hollywood” or “D-list” or whatever. It’s all just to make *themselves* feel better for backing the wrong side, to try and retroactively validate their feelings. It’s so transparent, though, lmao.
If there was any kind of story about Harry being phone buddies with an attractive woman the screeching from the British press would never stop. I mean even as a normal woman I’d be a little miffed if my husband was constantly calling his friend’s ex girlfriend to “blow off steam”.
That’s the thing – the H&M divorce story hasn’t landed, especially with their appearances in Vancouver, and there are only so many ways to keep rehashing the past. So, where else can the BM go to stir up trouble? W&K are right there and, unlike H&M, they can’t escape.
Exactly! The DM is saying Kate won’t listen to his whinging or she just isn’t a good listener?
Maybe Will is telling attractive women “my wife doesn’t understand me!”
Presumably Suze is the latest of William’s lady friends and this is the way the tabloids drop her name into the conversation without saying it directly.
I’m trying and failing to imagine how I would feel if I were Susanna (oh, pardon me, “Suze”). According to this article, she sounds like the person who has been bearing the brunt of William’s complaints for about 17 years (longer than he’s been married, right?). I do not envy that unpaid emotional labour, yikes. But don’t worry, Suze is just grateful to be of service to the future king, letting him blow off steam. Ick.
I find it so funny how it’s just considered a given that William leads a life stressful enough to be generating this much “steam” on a regular basis. I get that this man’s default state is rage-filled (and all of us here know the steam is because of Harry), but he objectively has not worked more than a few hours — not counting sporting events 🙄 — in more than 13 MONTHS now!
Typically people might talk about getting together with colleagues on Thursday or Friday evenings to get drinks or whatever and blow off steam after a tough work week. This dude “works” for MAYBE three or four hours every month, ffs.
I saw her on Kensington High Street a couple of months ago and it was striking how much she resembled Diana in real life. Huge blue eyes and the exact same haunted way to look up. Would have never guessed this from photos.
@ABCD wow that is an interesting observation.
I’m glad you said this. There is something ethereal about Rose. I think she’s gorgeous! My old ma agrees and thinks kate looks ‘a bit common’!
I don’t think Rose is a ‘classic’ beauty but she definitely has style and sexiness. I love that white dress on her!
Agree on all this. Contrast Rose’s casual elegance in that white dress vs. the silly toiletpaper Barbie doll outfit Kate wore at the same event.
The white dress is stunning – and she looks lovely in it. Nothing else to say about all of this!
That is a beautiful dress.
It’s telling to think that the woman writing this is the same woman who jealously complained about Meghan saying my husband. Tearing down a solid marriage while hiding but hinting at the marriage that is not solid. What a ghoul.
And I’m sure one of those husbands is William.
This article is very pointed about THOSE rumours but again would Pippa name her daughter Rose if Will had strayed with RH?? I found RH very intriguing. Once upon a time Camilla, Kanga and another lady were passed off as Chuck’s confidantes in the press. Nigel Dempster used to feature them in the Fail Society columns in the 1970s. Clearly the Fail are reminding W and K what they know and could choose to print at a later date.
Pip absolutely would name her daughter Rose, maybe because of the affair. She wanted the name and she was raised to be in competition with her sister.
Pippa is much smarter that Kate.
It was said that William told Pippa to stop merching and getting her photo snapped with items she was promoting. So naming her kid Rose might have been a way of getting back at Willy and Kate from telling her to stop making money offf her royal connections.
Notice how she has stopped. Also notice how she recently went and did a diploma or degree in Early Childhood or something.
Pippa is a middle child, quietly clever and under the radar manipulative and competitive. I wouldn’t underestimate her.
@Princessk — Pippa got her Master’s degree in physical literacy and the importance of encouraging kids to take part in physical activity as a way of building confidence, self-esteem and good mental health. She totally overtook her sister in early childhood education and made her look a fool. No wonder Pippa was photographed on vacation in St. Barts in a teeny-weeny bikini with her kids while Kate was supposedly suffering a life-threatening illness. There was a clear message there — if Kate was truly seriously ill why was her sister cavorting on a tropical beach?
Lady Digby: The third you mean is Janet Jenkins. In the 90s she said to US press she met Charles until 1992. And her son was born June 84 alledegly nine month after meeting Charles in Highgrove.
@alteya – ‘Rose’ is a very common name for the British upper classes. I think Pippa’s choice to name her daughter Rose was purely a coincidence. The late Princess Margaret’s middle name was Rose too.
Yes it is a common name, isn’t it part of bea’s new daughters name too?
It isn’t a name pip would have used without knowing how it would be talked about after the rose h affair. She made a choice, as someone upthread mentioned, possibly a get-back-at-w&k choice.
Anyone who’s grown up in a household where the majority of attention and efforts were focused on the golden child (even if they’re ‘close’ with the golden one) would understand that Pippa absolutely would use the name Rose if an affair had indeed occurred. In many cases especially if an affair had occurred.
Pippa pap strolled in a bikini while her sister was recovering from a major operation, allegedly right after the cancer diagnosis.
Yeah, as I mentioned above, I don’t think Kate and Pippa are nearly as close as they used to be. And Pippa’s husband could have had some sentimental reason for wanting to pick the name “Rose” that has nothing to do with his BIL.
They were raised to be in competition, not to be friends. Naming their daughter Rose is far more likely to be a dig by Pip simply because she could.
What a venomous and bitchy article, and why are all tabloid writers such bitches, both male and female ones.
It does seem to be a prerequisite for the job doesn’t it?
Along with stupidity and a dismal lack of emotional intelligence.
The Fail really does seem to be trolling WanK. As someone said above, they’re brazenly posting the most laughable articles about Kate. Like the one yesterday about how Sophie and Kate wearing salmon five years apart means they’re quietly supporting each other, or something (the hooting in the comments section was worth the price of reading it). The Mail also outed Kate’s ski trip at a very inopportune time (KP was busy telling everybody she was too frail to work), when my understanding is the media often keep these things quiet.
On a separate note, Rose was a model at some point and she has a rockin’ bod. I’m also ready to believe she has a more charismatic and/or winning personality than Kate. A bat of those big eyes and I can see men, including William, falling for her.
@MeAtHome, I missed this: “Like the one yesterday about how Sophie and Kate wearing salmon five years apart means they’re quietly supporting each other”
and now I am dying at it. DYING!
It’s hilarious to see what they have to scrape from the bottom of the Windsor barrel when the Sussexes are having a busy week
I think Rose is very attractive (see the link from Harper’s below) and has been from an early age. Certainly more attractive than Kate, though they’re both too thin in my view. I’m just curious why they consistently use the worst picture of her ever. Her IG site for her home is gorgeous and nicely curated.
https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a43689914/who-is-rose-hanbury-marchioness-of-cholmondeley-facts/
@Thelma – Thanks for the link. As my late mother would say, Rose H has that “come hither” look, which many men find irresistible.
Worthy of Lady Whistledown .Glad she defined “stiffy”.
Oh yes, they definitely knew what they were doing there. Rose will only accept the grandest stiffy, indeed.
I find Rose very striking. It’s not about having that “perfect” Instagram face beauty. She has interesting features like huge eyes, she has style which she embraces and doesn’t seem to be copying from someone else, she lets her hair stay curly and natural which I appreciate. And she probably has an engaging personality too. That huge Neo-Palladian pile in Norfolk doesn’t hurt either.
I’m not simping for Rose, just saying I get it if she’s considered desirable among a certain set. What a weird article though.
@Maisiesmom Rose has innate confidence and knows her own worth, she belongs in certain circles and doesn’t have to try too hard. W and K sound entitled and dim and boring. Kate is often freeze posing and getting ready for her standing ovation from strangers. Neither bother to make an effort but expect people to be overawed by their presence. Many, many people outclass these dullards and Rose probably can run circles round them! Rose is much too classy and elegant for the likes of Will!
This is just….bizarre. And gross.
And FWIW I don’t get the whole Rose thing. Maybe it’s a British thing – big t-ts and looks like a horse…?
Does she have a big chest? I hadn’t noticed. Well, if so, some people like that! I don’t think she looks like a horse. She doesn’t have itty bitty features but I wouldn’t call her horsey. Camilla is the horsey one.
I remember some photos of her & her sister posing in pink bikinis with Tony Blair (I think it was him). So the “girls” were out on display. But I think she’s got that horsey look that so many in that set have. I also think Anne & Zara look like horses.
As an aside, there’s probably a lot of chatter given the nature of her marriage – he’s apparently bisexual and spends more of his time with his “men friends” as the UK press put it. So theres probably speculation about who she’s off with while he’s with his male partners. Which hey- if it works for them, good for them.
@Mtl.Ex.Pat – It’s alleged that Rose’s husband spends a lot of time with a male friend in France who was convicted of defrauding the L’Oreal heiress, Liliane Bettencourt.
@deborah1 – RIGHT – I had forgotten that! What a sketchy bunch!
Is this Suze person the one that was seen in a car with William leaving a private club a few years back?
@Nic919 she is a tall, attractive blonde with a prominent nose
https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/search/2/image?phrase=susanna+warren
If Koko was the private club then you have guessed right!
Is this woman related to the Warren who was Queen Elizabeth’s racing manager, or married the daughter of the racing manager? I think his son is a friend of Harry’s and his daughter Zalie(?) was a little bridesmaid at the wedding because she is one of Harry’s godchildren.
Tall and elegant Carolyn Warren is the mother of equally tall and elegant Susanna Warren. This is a horse-mad family: Carolyn (daughter of the 7th Earl of Carnarvon, the Queen’s former racing adviser) and her husband (John Warren, the Queen’s current racing adviser) run the Highclere Stud. She’s always among the best-dressed at Royal Ascot, and her son, Jake, is a great friend of the Duke of Sussex.
@Lady Digby – Hardly C-list then.
She sounds like a procurer to me. What exactly she’s arranging for him, I shudder to think, but the fact the paper was specific that she’s got 17 years of loyal service to the crown 🚩
They’re letting Will know they’ve got specifics going back to the Waity years. Also, that would put this woman in service since she was 19 🚩
idk if its the same. She used to date Guy Pelly? She’s been in the royal circle for a while.
Her brother Jake met Harry and William at Ludgrove and is one of Diana’s godsons. Their father ran the queen’s stud farm and is a well known horse trainer. Their mother is the daughter of Porchy, the Queen’s rumored close friend/affair partner.
So then Porchy is her grandfather? Huh. Small worlds fr.
I follow Sister Wives because it fascinates me, and all of this is starting to sound like their family relations 😂. Isn’t Rose the half sister to Cressida, Harry’s ex? Or am I mixing her up? But the grandpa might have been getting down with the Queen and his daughter works for the King and his granddaughter is “in service” to the crown and an ex of the Princes BFF.
That was Isabella Calthorpe, one of the many women Bill wanted instead of Kate. She’s married to Sam Branson, son of Richard Branson.
I vaguely remember a story awhile back about a woman that PW would whine about to his couriers saying she was the only one who understood him! Now we’re hearing again about this female friend of his…
I think Rose is very beautiful . She does have a charisma that can be seen in photos that Kate doesn’t have . She has amazing eyes and lips
My God this article (and the whole “toff” scene, to be fair) seems like 7th grade for people who couldn’t get enough the first time through. This level of obsession with “ranking” people and “stiffy” invitations is just sad.
KP will NOT be happy I have just googled Prince William’s female friends and got a lot of results for Rose Hanbury. RH wasn’t happy with Stephen Colbert talking about her when Kate is missing went viral, so I doubt she be happy either.
Blowing off steam? Frequently we have wondered what Will’s hobbies are and how he occupied himself during all that downtime? Maybe the Fail are warning Will of how much they could enlighten the public if they choose to?
Dancing on tables? This is Houghton we’re talking about not Mahiki.
“The top-tier toff every husband wants to bed, to the C-list woman William calls when he wants to blow off steam.”
That is a completely sexist headline, and I’d be offended if the subjects of this article weren’t terrible aristos and aristo-panderers.
I’m with those who think Rose H is unremarkable-looking; her lack of a jawline reminds me of Shelley Duvall in “Popeye.”
The Fail is definitely yanking Willy’s chain.
The British aristocracy is so basic. I think all the generations of inbreeding skewed their idea of beauty. Put Rose in room where no one knows her name and no one would notice her.
And yet they do. Not because of her name but because of her style, elegance, her ability to effortlessly fit in and command attention without seemingly trying. One of those people who has ‘it’.
@alteya, if you say so. No one mentioned her before the affair accusations. Seems like the press is just trying to make fetch happen.
You may not have known who she was prior to the Rose/William affair being outed, but plenty of us did.
@Steph – I think Rose H exudes a type of magnetism which attracts men like bees to the honeypot. I had a school friend like that. She was not especially pretty but she had this aura about her which was irresistible to the boys. I met her again some 20 years later and it was still there. I could not put my finger on it but I felt it. It’s very hard to explain but I see the same thing in Rose.
Are they … exposing one of William’s mistresses ?
Maybe two although both of them are far too good for Will!
This is a strange article where it reminds me of how for years they tried to normalize Camilla in the press, as well as trying to normalize royals having affairs. I for a long time have seen Kate as being okay with a marriage where William has affairs as long as they remain married and she gets the things she cares about the most, which is becoming queen consort without having to do any real work. I think this article is to make Rose look good and royal material as well as Kate. The stuff about how photogenic they are is just to show Rose as being more normal and common and Kate as more upperclass and posh.
That article is yucky. I have zero reasons to show support for Rose, but no woman deserves to be discussed in such terms. I do find her photogenic and alluring in her own way. Self-confidence and a life seemingly crafted to her taste would do that. I believe either someone wants to break her marriage, either she’s been utilized as a decoy for whoever William could be having an affair with. (Tbh, I don’t consider him spirited enough to have affairs, even less ONSs).
Yeah, if I were Rose I’d be p*ssed, then on the phone with my lawyer.
I like Rose, simply because she seems self-assured, confident, and she knows who she is and is comfortable in her skin. I could see how men would be attracted to that. And for what it’s worth, I think she’s more attractive than Kate and she comes across as charismatic and enigmatic even in “bad” pictures. Kate is just boring and dull and was cute at best at her peak.
Rose’s husband also seems like a blast. I find it hard to believe that she would be interested in an ill-tempered dullard like Normal Bill. No one wanted him. Not Jecca and not anyone else which is why he finally gave Kate big blue and married her.
…perfect teeth?
Shouldn’t the rest of the headline read
“….says Rose Hansberry”
Carole must be seething, but no, Rose isn’t behind this story. The Fail is yanking Bill’s chain, letting them know they have the receipts on at least three of his affairs. Can’t wait for them to dig back into Kate firing her head of Household allegedly because she was arranging Bill’s holidays with multiple sidepieces.
They have that right- she’s not really photogenic.
In some pictures, in others I can definitely see the appeal. But then, Rose doesn’t have 10 years worth of faked up, photoshopped posed pics like Kate does in comparison.
Photogenic and beautiful are two different things. Not all complexions and bone structures look good in photos, which is why being a photographer is a hard job and one that needs a study of lighting, angles, composition. It’s also why some actors are underwhelming in person yet look amazing on the screen, or why models are carefully chosen with very definite features, for ex a small face/head, a certain type of nose, etc.
A beautiful person can look meh in photos yet stunning in person, it happens all the time.
The opposite phenomenon are instagram faces – the ones that look good in a selfie but when you see the person irl it’s yikes.