In Touch Weekly has always dipped their toe in American-tabloid-style coverage of the Windsors. In Touch was notably one of the few American outlets really going for it, years ago, when the Prince William-Rose Hanbury rumors were circulating. I’m just saying, they’re not new to this! Anyway, In Touch is running a funny exclusive about how Queen Camilla is the whole reason why the Princess of Wales and Duchess of Sussex fell out. I disagree – I think Kate hated Meghan on sight, but sure, Camilla’s machinations behind the scenes absolutely deepened a lot of the rifts within the Windsor clan. Camilla has always been a snake in the grass. Some highlights from In Touch’s big exclusive.
Harry wrote in Spare that he believed Camilla briefed the media about Meghan vs. Kate: “Camilla is always looking out for herself first,” says an insider, revealing shocking new details behind the queen’s “twisted” plots against her perceived rivals. “Kate and Meghan made good targets. Quite simply, if the princesses were constantly at war, then anything negative out there about her and Charles would be of limited interest,” adds the insider. “Kate and Meghan never had a chance.”
William & Kate were Camilla’s victims too: William and Kate were victims as well, Harry has claimed. Camilla “wasn’t very keen on Catherine” when she joined the family, royal expert Tom Quinn reveals in the new British documentary The Middletons: Modern Royal In-Laws. And because they were seen as “stealing the limelight,” Harry pointed out in a 2023 ITV interview, William, 42, and Kate, 43, “went through a large portion of the same things that Meg and I went through.”
Camilla drove a wedge between the two couples: “They definitely had their issues, but the animosity snowballed because of all the negative stories out there. Harry started accusing William of leaking things as well,” says the insider. Harry and Meghan, hurt that William and Kate and the rest of the palace staff often refused to set the record straight, “took it to the next level,” the insider adds, by leaving the royal family and telling all in a series of barn-burning interviews and Spare.
Beloved Camilla: In the middle of all the strife, Camilla was crowned queen in 2023. “And now, she’s almost universally beloved,” the insider points out. “She finally achieved her goal.” But as Harry said on 60 Minutes, there were “bodies left in the street.”
Kate and Meghan’s friendship was among the casualties. “It’s a shame,” says the insider, “because they have a lot in common. There’s no reason why they shouldn’t get along, even if they were never destined to be BFFs.” These days, contact between Kate and Meghan, who once giggled together at Wimbledon, is “extremely limited,” says a source, “though Kate was genuinely touched when Meghan sent her well-wishes during her cancer battle.”
Kate wants to make peace with Meghan: “She’s so full of gratitude these days, and in her view, no one should waste time holding grudges. She is more than willing to make peace with Meghan — and Meghan is very much on the same page.” The pair exchange gifts for each other’s children, “who would love to get to know their cousins,” says the source. William and Harry will take some convincing. “Kate has been quietly trying to chip away at the tension, hoping to bring them back together, but so far, nothing has worked,” says the insider. “The feeling among those close to them is that the only way the brothers will ever reconcile is if both Meghan and Kate want it to happen.”
There’s been a renewed campaign in recent weeks to say that Kate is somehow open to reconciling with Harry, and now Meghan too? I don’t buy it. But I am happy to see that people are starting to understand how thoroughly Camilla has destroyed relationships within the family. Camilla always feared that Diana’s sons would gang up on her, so she drove a wedge between them. She hated that two younger wives got more attention than her, so she drove one princess out of the country and she’s gatekeeping the other. I also believe that Camilla is completely behind Charles’s estrangement from Harry, and Charles’s weird relationship with William. Granted, Charles has made those choices for himself, but Camilla has always wanted Charles estranged from his sons.
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- King Charles III and Queen Camilla, the Prince and Princess of Wales, the Princess Royal and The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester attend the annual Commonwealth Day Service of Celebration at Westminster Abbey, in London. Picture date: Monday March 10, 2025,Image: 974325849, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Aaron Chown/Avalon
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- Members of the British Royal Family attend a Christmas service at St. Mary Magdalene Church on the Sandringham estate Where: Sandringham, United Kingdom When: 25 Dec 2024 Credit: Cover Images
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- The Duchess of Cornwall (left) the Duchess of Sussex at a garden party at Buckingham Palace in London which she is attending as her first royal engagement after being married. The event is part of the celebrations to mark the70th birthday of the Prince of Wales.
Ummm universally beloved?
Tolerated but not beloved. Even those dodgy YouGov polls have her down low on the popularity stakes.
I’d be surprised if the public would even line the streets and show up at her funeral.
Universally beloved by the tabloids. The people? Meh, some probably like her. But universally beloved is quite the stretch.
Universally loved by Piers Morgan and Jeremy Clarkson.
😂 at least they’re not hiding how evil she is.
Dead bodies on the streets indeed.
I believe this 100%. It wasn’t necessarily personal. Plenty of parents, plenty of bosses, etc, thrive on keeping their children, employees, etc pitted against each other. For a step-mother-in-law whose power is really tenuous, this behavior is practically a given.
I would believe this too, all seems entirely plausible.
But…what is with this article?
All the sources are old – they seem to be mainly pulling from Harry’s Spare for evidence and quotes, and a couple mentions of a 2023 interview.
What in this article is new?
And if nothing is, what is prompting this now?
Is this coming from Camp Middleton as part of the Peacemaker Kate narrative?
That would make the placement In Touch make more sense – sure they dip into some royal tea when it’s big, but again, as far as I can see, nothing new prompted this, so what a weird time to be up in Camz’s business.
So do we think it’s Kate’s attempt at getting Meghan to see this? (Like hey girl, it was the evil stepmom all along, let’s be pals again?) Because if so, that is some subtle peacemaking and K is going to have to be a bit more overt about it. There is no way Meghan or Harry will be down with peace-made-through-more-tabloid-rumor-mongering, good grief.
Ooh or is there any chance this is to throw off Charles possibly inviting Donold to bring the US into the Commonwealth? LOL if In Touch is trying to stop that (since rumors are DT is amenable to it; he probably doesn’t even know what Commonwealth means), then In Touch is working harder to save our country than the vast majority of Dem Senators and all of the Rep. Senators…
I don’t believe this at all because no matter how horrible Camilla is and how desperate she might be to create a wedge between them, ultimately it is them who decides what they will allow or not allow. Kate is a racist, so it wouldn’t have mattered what Camilla did, there was never going to be a real friendship between them. Kate doesn’t have real female friends that she cultivated on her own because she can’t be in a relationship with anyone she sees as competition. We heard through Harry’s book how she wasn’t there the first time he brought her to their home to meet the woman he was head over heels in love with. We heard how she expected special treatment during the first time meeting Meghan when she expected her to dress a certain way in the place that wasn’t Kate’s home. Harry told us in his book how there was a pillar or plant placed between him and Meghan at Pippa’s wedding and how she didn’t care that Meghan was dealing with the situation with her father days before the wedding and needing to get the bridesmaid dresses altered. We heard about how mean she was when they didn’t receive Easter basket and Kate’s white knuckle moment when Meghan thought that they were at least friendly enough for her to joke about hormones after having a baby. Kate was never going to welcome Meghan and Camilla wasn’t needed for that to happen.
Nerd, it’s interesting that they don’t mention all of the times in public that Bone Idle has been either intimidating or outright mean. It seems someone is trying the rewrite history by pushing everything onto the side piece. That’s not going to work because too many of us saw what we saw.
They’ve spent decades doing the same with Princess Di. Those of us who were around at the time and paying attention have never fallen for any of the revisionist history. I think that they would have learned something, but clearly not.
“…days before the wedding and needing to get the bridesmaid dresses altered.”
No, she, who was not the bride or the groom, DEMENDED ALL the bridesmaids’ dresses to be REMAKE. Evil, entitle person.
Who would have the most to gain from:
1) reminding everyone what a fool Charles is; while
2) blaming Camilla for KKKate’s racism?
Using the same title one TikToker has been posting for a while now, she’s “Camilla the Rat”. 🐀
She’ll always remain the Rottweiler to me. Woof bitch, woof!
Same re: Rottweiler. That bench photo reveals her character. Not only is she completely ignoring the little girl sitting next to her, Charlotte literally has to brace herself because the Rottweiler is shoving her aside.
Camilla sitting on the bench next to Charlotte is kind of funny. There is no familiarity or warmth. From what I can tell, Camilla actually has a very warm relationship with her children and grandchildren. But dang she really has none of that with Diana’s grandchildren.
My question is why Charlotte was removed to the one side and the rest of her family, her parents and two brothers were on the other side. Charles was with the male grandchildren. Very strange.
Charles said he wanted a granddaughter, but he does not have the child near him. For the photo.
Camilla’s scheming wouldn’t have worked if C, W and K were better people. Or if they were an actual family. She def orchestrated a lot of mess but I’m sure it didn’t take much.
Barely took a nudge if I had to guess.
Exactly, sure she’s a schemer but she was pushing on an open door with this crowd
I agree. I’m sure the side-piece played a part, but ffs, the real problem is that chuck and will are both horrible human beings. We are never going to see that acknowldegment, though, because they are men. So sure, make this about the 3 women who are completely unrelated to each other, and not about the sickness that permeates the royals.
As far as I’m concerned, Kate was the biggest culprit in this whole situation. Yes Camilla is a horrible person, but that’s expected and will never change. It wasn’t anything that Camilla did that the media wrote about constantly to abuse Meghan, it was the Grand Canyon size lie that Kate allowed to be used against Meghan during what was the most vulnerable moments in her life, that caused Meghan to have suicidal ideations, need to seek mental health counseling, lose her child and have people making threats to harm her and her unborn child. Camilla is evil, but the stuff that she did, fails in comparison to the lie that even Harry says really “started it all”.
Also how Kate interfered with Meghan’s wedding plans and behaved horribly trying to mastermind the event and even demand new outfits for the attendants. She tried to take over.
Kate with massive help from Carole, uncle hookers and blow, her paid pr advisors from the fail. Kate is absolutely to blame for her own actions, not Camilla
She has and always will be one nasty piece of work…
So they’re saying the brothers could reconcile if Kate and Meghan want it, Kate has been ‘chipping away’ 🙄. The implication then is Meghan doesn’t want it. Saint Kate rides again.
Plus the other nauseating implication that women control men’s relationships or family relationships are a woman’s responsibility. The usual garbage trope.
But in the same article it says that Meghan is on the same page as Kate. so which is it? Are they on the same page re: reconciliation (that can only happen if they both want it, but the article just told us they do?) Or is Kate on board and Meghan not? The article is trying to have it both ways but it doesn’t make sense.
It seems like they’re saying it’s Harry William and presumably Camilla who are the problem. As you say, it seems to be saying that Meghan and Kate are on the same page, that Kate is just as kind and lovely as Meghan seems to be in WLM. Or at least that’s what’s being suggested to an American audience. No idea if it’s just made-up or if someone close to Kate is briefing this fantasy?
Unfortunately, Kate played right into Camilla’s hands. Not sure Camilla even had to do too much. I don’t know that I believe Kate is trying to reach out to Meghan. Do they really exchange gifts for the children? I could see the Sussexes possibly sending gifts but I honestly cannot see the Wales couple doing the same. Just seems like a lot of ret-con to make Kate not seem like a jealous mean-girl towards Meghan. The church behavior in front of cameras and on the walkabout tell a different story.
The fact that Kate would not let her children near Archie when he was a baby says plenty.
And the fact that she had CONCERNS about his potential skin color.
Hosilla is a home wrecker and she will use any tensions that were in the family to her advantage. Can’t didn’t like Meg from day one and Horsilla knew this and I’m sure she egged some more shit on. She used her gutter press bedmates to help her achieve her goal in getting rid of Harry and Meg. She does her best to go after Peg where she can but he is the future king. She is only universally beloved in her own head.
Diana’s more universally loved today than Camilla ever has been or will be
Absolutely 100% true.
Not just Diana. There are plenty of people out there who don’t like Meghan, don’t get me wrong. At the same time though, the people who love Meghan and admire Meghan love Meghan hard. And they’re global. I’m betting there’s more of them out there than those who find Camilla beloved just saying.
Who is Camilla to anyone? The villain from season whatever of the Crown? She’s not and has never been a glamorous public figure that people feel connected to, even if many people eventually warmed to her enough to accept her has Charles’s wife.
I think there’s a circle of Brits who enjoy Camilla. Mostly the people already in her circle, the media people that have benefitted from her briefing throughout the years and some hard-core monarchists. But I think those yougov polls grossly overestimate the size of that circle.
And you know that fact is eating her alive from the inside out. Queen Side Piece can do all the damage to family relationships she can, but she’ll never eclipse Diana.
Even though Camilla ruthlessly destroyed the Fab Four, she is universally beloved. Whatever, In Touch.
I don’t believe for a second that Kate sends gifts for the Sussex children. I also don’t believe that she wants to reconcile with Meghan. I’d rather someone sell me a bridge before I believe that.
She strikes me as the type to send gifts, just to get pissed that Meghan and Harry don’t mention it in the media.
Welp, once C is the dowager cow, they can toss her in the oubliette.
I learned a new word. An oubliette seems the perfect place for Camilla, and a lot of other palace ilk.
Was thinking the same thing. She’s no blood relation to the heirs and I doubt she’s done anything to sow genuine affection or loyalty from them. She put all her eggs in Charles’s basket and once he’s gone, she’s out.
Charles is close to Anne, Zara and Margaret’s daughter Sarah but you never see Camilla interacting with any of them at family events. There aren’t even stories about it. She and Anne don’t do events together as working royals.
Eheheh. I’d give a million to hear Anne’s real opinion of Camilla. 😈
I’d give a million to hear Anne’s opinion of KM ! And the rest of the Middletons.
I think Camilla is kind of just an agent of chaos. I think she likes having William and Harry at war and having Kate and Meghan at war because its just…..sort of fun for her, I guess. Some people are just like that unfortunately.
I dont think she drove a wedge between Meghan and Kate though. I think the crying story and the subsequent actions and comments from Kate did that (even if we assume that Camilla leaked the crying story to the tabloids and not Kate, it still meant that Kate told her the wrong version, knowing she would leak it, and KP never corrected it). I think she may have capitalized on that wedge, but I dont think she is the person standing between Kate and Meghan reconciling.
I honestly think Meghan’s view of any Windsor or Windsor adjacent is that its up to Harry. She may send gifts to the Wales children for holidays but Harry is okay with it. If Kate texts Meghan, Meghan is going to let Harry know. If Harry wants to fully reconcile with Charles and william et al, Meghan is going to support that. If Harry does not want to do that, then Meghan also supports that. Its Harry’s family and I definitely think at this point she is letting him take the lead.
I agree that she didn’t instigate drama between Kate and Meghan, but I readily believe she worked it to her sense of advantage.
oh I agree she used any issues there to her advantage, and she certainly wasnt going to do anything to solve any problems or end any drama as long as it benefited her.
Camilla did not make Kate snub Meghan in public at the commonwealth service nor was Camilla even present when Kate lunged at Meghan during the funeral walkabout. Yes Camilla does things behind the scenes but so many media sources want to remove agency from Kate who chooses to be vindictive and petty and we have literally seen her act this way in full public view. Kate also could have had a staffer reverse the crying story, but she won’t because she is behind the story in the first place. Camilla wasn’t on the text chain when Kate decided to be bridezilla at her sister in laws wedding.
Kate actively chooses to be an awful person toward Meghan time and again. Camilla doesn’t even have to do a thing.
Exactly. Do I think Camilla is part of the problem with the entire dynamic between Charles and his sons and their wives? Yes.
do I think camilla forced Kate to be a mean girl to Meghan in public? Absolutely not.
Pretty sure I’ve never seen any articles about Camilla seeking to be a peacemaker in that family. That in itself tells me that she is happier to see discord between KFC, his sons and their wives. Remind me again why this hypocrite is qualified to campaign against domestic violence.
I absolutely believe W&K are jealous, petty, insecure and weak people who were super jealous of the coverage of Meghan and Harry, at a tenuous point in their own marriage (third baby/Rose), and followed the family tradition of expecting the Spare to take the heat off the Heir. I think whenever someone joins a family, relationships can be tense and it can be difficult to navigate.
HOWEVER, I absolutely believe that Camilla was machinating behind the scenes to make these cracks wider and create a huge rift. 1000000%. Of course she would. This is the same woman who did her level best to destroy a 20yo woman for funsies and to maintain her hold on Charles.
If Diana had lived, this would have played out differently. If William was a less damaged and better person, I also think that. If Kate wasn’t jealous and insecure I think it might have played out differently too. But Camilla was destined for success because a) she’s good at it, it’s legit her skill and b) W&K were susceptible to it.
Kate would not have married Wil liam had Diana been around.
I believe this. She would have seen Kate and Carole for what they were.
Carole played the pseudo mother which would never have been needed if Diana had still been alive.
Everyone knew Willy was the weak link. It took very little prodding from Camilla to manipulate his innate sense of entitlement and jealousy of his brother into a clusterf#ck that could ultimately cause the downfall of the monarchy. Meghan and Kenner would never, ever have been friends. Keener is a sycophant who doesn’t have friends. Keener has big blue and she wrecked havoc to get and keep it with her scheming mother. None of tbe Windsors thought Harry would permanently leave. They played stupid games and won stupid prizes because Willy doesn’t have the charisma, work ethic or desire to be king. The monarchy needed Harry more than he needed it.
She’s an old-school Mean Girl who terrorized Diana. She was determined to terrorize the next generation of wives.
If Charles had not been a self centered wimp he would have protected his first wife and stop his involvement with Camilla. He had no trouble ditching dale tryon
True! But also, if he had not been a self-centered wimp he would never have pursued Diana, a woman who was far too young, vivacious, charismatic, and beautiful for him and whom he never showed any affection for and was only ever jealous of. He should have grown a spine and married whom he loved in the first place, even if it was that horrid married horse. They would have spawned terrible children, though!
Charles was interested in other women besides Camilla. He said Dale Tryon was the only woman who understood him and he had many lady friends, serious contenders for wife and others just flings. I never believed she was the “love of his life” because he did not tell her that they had a future together, which a person avid to be with her would have said. Charles does not know whatever love means. It’s all about HIM.
The only thing I believe about this story is that Camilla wasn’t an innocent by-stander in all of this. Charles, Camilla, William and Kate were all threatened by Harry and Meghan and they used their associations in the British press to bring them down. Harry and Meghan actually leaving was never not in the plans, they wanted them humbled and humiliated like what happened to Edward and Sophie.
Kate was not forced by Camilla to be a mean girl. I doubt keen wants to make peace with meghan.
Camilla is not universally beloved. Many have long memories of how she got where she us today. More propaganda
Don’t believe the Kate wanting to reconcile angle; fully on board about Camilla. This woman managed a petulant and jealous Prince of Wales for decades and could easily see William’s similar traits. Where Charles was jealous of the love and attention given to Diana, William’s Achilles heel is Harry. Cam has the patience of Catherine de Medici, playing the long game and it’s paid off beautifully for her.
When historians write about and discuss she-wolves from the time of the Plantagenets, Camilla is right up there except she’s the archetypal evil stepmother. She’s the Rottweiler from Hell who’s doing a splendid job of destroying the 1,000 year old monarchy from within with her tabloid mates, and bolstering the Republic. Whereas Diana extended the popular relevance of the Windsors, Camilla has done the exact opposite. Sleep well Lady Macbeth.
This isn’t direct confirmation but I’ve always believed Meghan sent something to Kate after the cancer diagnosis was revealed. I know Harry and Meghan issued a brief statement of support as they probably found out when the rest of the world did. But watching With Love, Meghan and how big Meghan is on thoughtful gifts and handwritten notes, I think Meghan did send Kate either a short note, flowers, or maybe even a small gift of support behind the scenes. Kate will never admit it and Meghan will never mention it. But you know if one of Meghan’s close friends was going through something similar, she’d be offering all kinds of support.
As for Camilla wanting everyone to be at war with each other, that’s a huge duh lol. However I don’t think she was the chief instigator of what happened between Harry and William. William was wary of Meghan from the jump, she isn’t British and she is career oriented, independent, and had lived a full life. Both Kate and William were intimidated by Meghan’s personality and accomplishments and realized due to her already public profile being on Suits, she would eclipse them and she did. So they tried to put her in her place and all that did was make Harry want to leave the royal family. Now Meghan’s doing whatever she wants how she wants it and has left the Windsors in the dust and living her best life along with Harry. Kate and William are not.
Meghan may have reached her limit after Kate lunged at her during that walkabout. I doubt she sent gifts to Keen.
I don’t believe Meghan is in any way communicating with that family. If she was, it would be leaked by now about how obsessed Meghan is about making peace. Will sent his man after Meghan to defend Daily Mail in court. There is no doubt left to believe that W&K didn’t play a huge part about ruining Meghan’s reputation. Why would she communicate with these people? No way. There were tabloid stories about Kate calling them when Lili was born. Then, one american journalist asked Kate to her face and she had to admit she didn’t communicate with H&M about their new born. It is all lies to make BRF seem like a family again after Harry ruined that PR image.
I’m not sure W was wary of M from the start for the reasons cited. I think he was just jealous as hell that H bagged someone like M who happened to be an actress on one of his favourite TV shows. W disguised his jealousy as wariness to H.
Camilla really fits the evil stepmother trope, so I believe the conniving part of this story.
But if she’s universally beloved, I’m Queen Maeve of Ireland.
And Kate isn’t a peacemaker. She’s a self-obsessed, shallow dunce who had almost nothing in common with the intelligent and compassionate Meghan.
So part two of this story will come out when Kate figures out how to blame Cam for her racist comments and for her public nastiness toward Meghan?
I don’t really think Camilla was the main instigator in the fallout between the Wales’ and the Sussexs. William and Kate are sufficiently jealous and insecure on their own to feel threatened by someone who possesses all the positive qualities they lack.
That said, I do agree that it has benefitted Camilla to have them all at loggerheads with each other and she is unlikely to be working behind the scenes as a peacemaker in the family.
Kate has no women friends and saw them as “threats.” I think she wanted to be around two princes with Harry not marrying and her flirting with him.
She’s a straight up Shakespearean evil queen, pouring poison in the ear.
…and he’s okay with that. They really do deserve each other.
Didn’t Harry and William strait-up confront Charles about this and he cried about why couldn’t he have his own Angela Kelly, a person who manipulate press for him? I feel like that was in spare?
Camilla has been controlling the narrative for a LONG time, it will be interesting to see what happens after she passes.
Kaiser, she is not only a snake in the grass, she is also a horse in the hedges, a cow in the field and a dog in the bushes.
I wonder how William will treat Camilla once his father dies…
That is why Camilla is collecting all these media people around her. I am sure Rose story is also encouraged by Camilla. She knows W&K’s weak points. If Will tries anything, I am sure she can ruin his public image as husband and father. Charles is buying her private sh*t, so Will can’t touch her when Charles is gone.
Interesting point. Carole & Kate are so convinced she will finally be Queen & get to kick cams out but they never see the full story. Camilla can let all of the Middletons and Kate’s secrets out, she’s will have nothing to loose then & William can’t stand Kate or her mother so she won’t have the free reign to through weight around like Camilla did. She will only be allowed to do what Willy allows her to do.
Camilla knows exactly what happened last year. That’s what she has over both of them.
Given his comments about Diana, his own 20 years of infidelity, and his new found closeness with racist misogynist cam friend Jeremy clarkson? Add in accepting anmer hall as the marital home, the place where the van cutsems hosted the Charles and camilla affair for years.
Imo william doesn’t have a problem with Camilla. They are allies.
The horse girl with the personality of a wet paper towel is jealous of her two beautiful, younger counter parts. Shocking.
I do not like that they always make it seem like Meghan was giving it as good as she got it. She was not at war with anyone. There was no drama between her and Kate, in the sense that it flowed both ways. Meghan was/is the victim. They bullied and abused her relentlessly, and they are still doing just that. There is always this constant need to make Black women, or women of African decent, the aggressor in some way, though she was the one being attacked.
Let’s take a look at the time that William got mad at a guy they thought was a journalist while they were riding bikes with the kids. In the video you can hear Kate instigating things and getting William even more upset because she tried to say the guy filmed the kids.
Kate has never been a peacemaker. She is all in.
Not at all. She has always controlled William through his paranoia.
Harry wrote in Spare that it was Camilla that leaked the lie because that is what he was told by W and K, which made no sense because why was it even mentioned at all dinner with C and C and how did they know that Meghan actually cried because of Kate being insensitive? There was no reason they couldn’t have said that it was an innocent misunderstanding, that Kate apologized and the women have moved past it. They couldn’t say that because they were part of the leak, evident when Tatler magazine wrote a similar article that they confirmed KP gave them the go ahead to print with the very same lie. K and M were perfect targets because K is a racist who had issues with M from the start. There were too many instances where Harry shared how she was standoffish towards Meghan from the start. Harry did say that W and K went through similar things as him and M but he added that the abuse Meghan experienced included racism and a family that refused to defend her like they did other royal wives. There situations were never the same. Harry defended K when she needed it but none of them did the same for M. C didn’t drive a wedge between the two couples because that wedge was already there because of K being a racist who couldn’t stand the biracial woman being better than her and W couldn’t handle his younger brother having the better wife.
I’ll never forget that line from Andrew Morton’s book—when Diana finally gathered the courage to confront her.
Her cold response? “Well, you have the boys.”
William and Harry never stood a chance the cards were stacked against them before they were even born.
And yes, Gwyneth was shading Meghan—127%. But one thing about Our Meghan: she’s never been afraid to pick up the phone. That’s the difference between lobbing something online and having the courage to say it directly. Meghan gave her grace—an off-ramp. She let Gwyneth walk it back without public embarrassment. No mea culpas necessary.. and notice – she didn’t say a word.
Whether they become friends or not is irrelevant. The goal was accomplished. It was a win-win outcome because they were heading toward mutual destruction. She diffused the squad because it was HOT—and rightfully so.
So funny that they say that just because she became queen she is now universally beloved???!!!
I say both: Saint Catherine hated Meghan since she “took Harry from her”
and Horsilla was aware of this dislike and took advantage of it, playing the two SIL’s against each other. Divide and rule!
Universally beloved????
Good luck to Camilla after Charles dies – I think William is going to want her to be persona non grata, just like Angela Kelly. I absolutely believe that Camilla had been a puppet master behind the scenes and was the main person leaking to the press about both Meghan and Kate because it benefited her the most.
I think Camilla knows too much about huevo. He has to tread carefully
It’s perfectly okay for step children to never warm to their step parents, especially if infidelity was involved. The fact that grown adults feel children should just get over it and accept them is ridiculous – you helped to break a family unit, they are allowed to never accept you. That aside, I think they know Charles is in poor health and this is a way or rewriting to toss the baggage out with Camilla. Do I think she helped with the smears? Yes, even if it was just refusing to intervene when she could have. Do I think Kate’s camp instigated? Absolutely yes. Ultimately, Camilla has status in the circles she wants to have status in – these petty tabloid feuds would’ve provided a good laugh but I don’t think she lost sleep strategizing it.
Are we supposed to believe that Kate and Meghan have interests in common other than they are married to brothers? Kate is a selfish, lazy, mean girl. They have tried to position her as an attentive mom who cooks for her family when in in actually she can barely make pancakes, Louis acts like a heathen in public, and her husband apparently can’t stand being around her. It sounds to me that Carole is searching for sympathy for her English rose, Kate, by pointing the finger at Camilla. I don’t believe one minute that Kate wants to apologize to Meghan. I think Kate’s mother sees how beloved Meghan is after how everything they have done to her and hopes that associating her daughter with Meghan would benefit them. Don’t fall for it, Meghan. Accept the apology and continue your successful endeavors. We don’t need Kate in your life and neither do you.
Meghan and Kate have a lot in common??
I see caroles getting desperate to tie keen to Meghan’s bandwagon.