King Charles and Queen Camilla celebrate their 20th wedding anniversary on April 9th. To celebrate, Buckingham Palace authorized several sycophants to speak at length with the Daily Mail’s Becky English. Camilla’s sister Annabel Elliot is quoted extensively, and throughout the piece, I got the feeling that the anniversary celebration leans quite heavily on Camilla’s narrative. I’m not saying Charles couldn’t be bothered, but it definitely feels like Camilla still has more to “prove.” Given the fact that her approval ratings have always been some of the lowest on record, I understand why. Charles and Camilla have basically spent forty years trying to rewrite their affair, their destruction of Diana, their hatred of Diana’s sons and the real state of their marriage. This is just another piece in that reimagining.
The anniversary: That was back on April 9, 2005, which means that on Wednesday next week, unbelievably, the King, 76, and Queen, 77, will mark 20 years of marriage – albeit on a busy day of engagements in Rome as part of a state visit to Italy. The romance that many had predicted would be the downfall of the monarchy has become one of its most enduring, if unconventional, love stories.
Camilla’s sister spoke at length to the Mail: Camilla’s sister Annabel Elliot, in a rare public comment, explains its success simply: ‘They have known each other for a long time, almost their entire lives. Theirs, as any marriage should be, is a huge friendship. The key thing is that there is not really anything competitive between them. She is not trying to steal his thunder in any way at all. He is the King. And she will do her best to support him and be totally loyal to him.’ That’s not to say Camilla is a pushover. ‘She is a very strong character and she sticks to her guns. It’s quite extraordinary when I look back at how she has coped with everything.’
Elliot on Camilla’s love & loyalty: ‘Yes [love], that and loyalty. She is incredibly loyal to people she loves… She is a very straightforward person. You always know where you stand.’ There’s another secret ingredient, Ms Elliot adds. Camilla’s ‘really good sense of humour…I would almost say it’s the biggest gift she has given him. The humour. It’s been such a bond between them. And even if they argue, they will always laugh.’
Camilla & Charles argue about work: ‘The Royal Family don’t do illness… and I think that’s quite difficult for the Queen. Consequently, towards the end of last year she was quite ill herself. I think she was just exhausted because of all the travel and stepping up to the mark in his place. I would say argument-wise that is absolutely the top of what they disagree about. She thinks, like we all do, that he does far too much, hates letting people down. But hopefully not to the detriment of his own health.
Their separate country homes: Interestingly, the couple still spend significant periods apart, in what one source describes as the ‘quaintly old-fashioned, aristocratic way’, with Charles regularly disappearing off to Highgrove and Camilla to her private home, Ray Mill, in nearby Wiltshire for weekends It may be anathema to many, but some of their friends say it is the ‘secret’ to their longevity and strength as a couple.
Their affair while both were married to other people: Charles and Camilla, who are said to have resumed their relationship in 1986, were immediately branded the villains of the piece. Even their supporters admit that mistakes were made, but friends also tell me the situation was far from one-sided and Charles still deeply ‘regrets’ the pain and sadness caused. ‘Both of them [Charles and Diana] behaved badly in that first marriage and made decisions that none of us could ever condone,’ one says. ‘But we can seek to try to understand them. When you look back on it now, asking someone to sacrifice… happiness for the sake of their public persona seems really quite cruel.’
Prince Harry enjoyed Charles & Camilla’s wedding: It’s worth noting that in his vitriolic memoir, Spare, Prince Harry claimed he and Prince William had begged their father not to remarry. My sources (and there are many of them) all agree on the fact that Harry enjoyed the nuptials, however. ‘My abiding memory about the wedding was how happy and excited Harry seemed,’ says one. ‘He and William came up with the idea of decorating their father’s Aston Martin as a send-off. He seemed pretty bought in. I am sure there were mixed emotions over the years, but all I can tell you is how he seemed at the time. And he was happy for his father. This seems a very revisionist version of events.’
The years of lying about whether Camilla would be called queen: The issue of whether she would one day be Queen hovered in the background, Clarence House announcing that it was ‘intended’ she would be known as Princess Consort when Charles acceded to the throne. One Buckingham Palace source tells me, however, that ‘no one there ever thought she would be anything other than Queen’, not least because the King felt so strongly on the issue. For him, it was less about the role and more about respect. ‘What other woman isn’t allowed to be called “Mrs X” and have the same right and privilege of a first wife?’ one insider says. ‘To have done otherwise would have been punitive.’
Camilla is still pretending she never asked to be queen: But this was something that no one was keen to force in a hurry, and Camilla herself was inscrutable – ‘sphinx-like’ – on the subject, refusing to discuss it even with family and friends. One well-placed source stresses: ‘She had never been pushing for it. Never in a thousand years. Some people have said, “Oh, well, of course it was what she always wanted to become Queen”. But absolutely not.’
There are more lies in this piece, especially about the business of manipulating a dying queen into giving her “blessing” for Camilla to be called queen. I’m not going to relitigate that sh-t – I know what happened and everyone else does too. The section about Diana though… holy sh-t. “Both of them [Charles and Diana] behaved badly in that first marriage and made decisions that none of us could ever condone…When you look back on it now, asking someone to sacrifice… happiness for the sake of their public persona seems really quite cruel.” Charles cheated on Diana throughout their courtship, Camilla was “managing” and manipulating Diana (who was then 19/20), and Charles had multiple affairs with multiple women throughout the marriage. The whole “it’s cruel to ask Charles to be faithful and respectful to his wife” is insane, and yes, that stuff is definitely coming from Charles. Anyway, Harry definitely meant it when he wrote that Camilla left bodies in the street. Jesus.
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- The Prince of Wales and his new bride Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, with their families (L-R back row Prince Harry, Prince William, Tom and Laura Parker Bowles (L-R front row) Duke of Edinburgh, Britain’s Queen Elizabeth II and Camilla’s father Major Bruce Shand, in the White Drawing Room at Windsor Castle Saturday April 9 2005, after their wedding ceremony. Officail Photograph courtesy of Clarence House. Date: 09.04.2005. Ref: B68_087753_0002 COMPULSORY CREDIT: UPPA/Photoshot,Image: 505697249, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: – NO UK USE – For queries call UPPA + 44 (0)20 7421 6000, Model Release: no, Credit line: Hugo Burnand/Clarence House / Avalon
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- WINDSOR ENGLAND 9-4-2005 WEDDING OF PRINCE CHARLES AND CAMILLA PARKER BOWLES Prince Charles and HRH the Duchess of Cornwall after their marriage at St Georges Chapel, Windsor Castle.
- King Charles III and Queen Camilla host an official dinner and reception for the Commonwealth Heads of Government at the Robert Louis Stevenson Museum in Apia, Samoa, on day six of the royal visit to Australia and Samoa Featuring: King Charles III, Queen Camilla Where: Apia, Samoa When: 25 Oct 2024 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
- King Charles III and Queen Camilla host an official dinner and reception for the Commonwealth Heads of Government at the Robert Louis Stevenson Museum in Apia, Samoa on day six of the royal visit to Australia and Samoa Featuring: King Charles III, Queen Camilla Where: Samoa When: 25 Oct 2024 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
- Queen Camilla during a farewell ceremony at Siumu Village on the final day of the royal visit to Australia and Samoa Featuring: Queen Camilla Where: Siumu, Samoa When: 26 Oct 2024 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
- King Charles III and Queen Camilla laughing during a farewell ceremony at Siumu Village on the final day of the royal visit to Australia and Samoa Featuring: King Charles III, Queen Camilla Where: Siumu, Samoa When: 26 Oct 2024 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
- Queen Camilla laughing during a farewell ceremony at Siumu Village on the final day of the royal visit to Australia and Samoa Featuring: Queen Camilla Where: Siumu, Samoa When: 26 Oct 2024 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
“When you look back on it now, asking someone to sacrifice… happiness for the sake of their public persona seems really quite cruel.”
I agree. It was cruel to do this to Diana. Terribly cruel.
Yup, and they’ll never be able to run away from her ghost. They did her wrong. The public remembers.
Charles treated Diana with contempt even in public.
Yup, I’ve always thought if Charles had simply been nice to Diana and discrete in his affairs, they could have come to some “living together apart” arrangement that would have avoided the messy scandals and divorce. Charles is and was simply too petty and too jealous to have a wife who was really, really good at her job. He clearly prefers Camilla’s lack of popularity to Diana’s star power.
Like father like son. William is no better.
But they expected Harry and later Meghan to do the same.
It cracks me up that they have mistaken Harry’s good manners at Charles and Camilla’s wedding for enthusiasm.
The public is stuck with such a garbage king and queen and no amount of pretending otherwise is going to change that fact. They are a nasty duo and history will not be kind to them.
Oh, you mean how QE2 did to her sister? Like that?
The cruelty runs deep in that family
The Crown is not close to reality. She could’ve walked away and married Townsend. The Queen had Philip and numerous working cousins to help out. She was 25 and didn’t need the Queen’s permission. Margaret didn’t want to give up the HRH and what came with it. First Churchill and the Anthony Eden said the cabinet wouldn’t approve the marriage. The COE said she could no longer take communion, a fact they later acknowledged was an error. Peter’s son Giles was always angry that his mother took the blame for the marriage breakup when Peter and Margaret were cheating before the divorce.
And that’s without looking at Townsend as a groomer of a vulnerable teenage girl. They met when she was 14 and he 29. Lady Anne Glenconner said she definitely thinks he took advantage of his proximity and her age. In South Africa, when she was 16, she said they spent every day together and that’s when she fell in love with him. When she was 17 he accompanied her to Belfast and a note was found in the official documents which stated his request to have his assigned bedroom moved to adjoin hers. Then at age 45 his second wife was 20. Side note—his daughter from this marriage, Isabelle, bought and refurbished Le Moulin, a country home in France that was the weekend residence of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, the only home they ever owned together.
Interestingly Margaret kept her letters from Townsend and they’re sealed until 2030, the centenary of her birth, so just a few more years.
“She is not trying to steal his thunder in any way at all.” 😏
And that’s Chuck in a nutshell. Harry was right. Chuck basked in the glow when the tabloids praised him.
“This seems a very revisionist version of events.’
Time for you to write your autobiography then Camz. Put your name against your words instead of having your tabloid minions do it for you. I suggest “Rottweiler” as the title.
“She had never been pushing for it. Never in a thousand years. Some people have said, “Oh, well, of course it was what she always wanted to become Queen”. But absolutely not.’”
Ah Camz, you could have always turned down the Crown but you didn’t. Your actions will always speak louder than the words that you insisted otherwise. 😂
Diana really wanted to do well in her role as Princess of Wales and wanted to do her best–from the time of her first walkabout. It annoyed her jealous husband that she did well and she was popular on their walkabouts. He was too egocentric to appreciate Diana. Of course Camilla was “pushing for it”, she would leak stories to the media. Stuart Higgins got calls from her every week in the eighties. Charles also during the engagement was caught moaning about how Diana was popular. People Magazine had a quote from him that “with her around, I will only see backs of photographers.”
Yup, he was and remains one petty, jealous egocentric bitch; envious of his youngest son’s success,
He never realised he had the love of a woman who could overlook his terrible features (his ears!) and who wanted to please him badly. His loss, the Windsors loss, and the country’s loss.
He’ll be but a footnote in history as one terrible loser who destroyed the absolute gift he had for a consort.
The irony is if Charles had supported Diana, he’d have been so much more popular than he is today. The RF would be so much more popular.
But no, he had to be a petty, insecure ass.
I often compare how he reacted to Diana’s ability to do her job and her popularity to both good and bad department heads I’ve had. The good ones hire really talented employees, and when the talented employees garner praise for being, you know, good at their work, the supervisor says, “Yup! Aren’t they great! And wasn’t I smart and amazing to recognize their talent and bring them onto the team?!” The bad ones, instead of taking credit for bringing the talented employee onboard, feel threatened by the employee’s success and do everything they can to tear the employee down.
@TigerMcQueen – I’d add that Charles was gifted a second chance at achieving some of the popularity he craved after the burst of positive PR he received for walking Meghan down the aisle at their wedding. It seems like ages ago now, because he blew up that goodwill so spectacularly it’s almost impossible to imagine it once existed. A smart person would’ve seized that moment, recognized that “a rising tide lifts all boats”, and figured out how continuing to align with H&M would have reflected well on him. Instead, he chose to continue throwing in his lot with the devil that is Camilla, the press sycophants that circle in her orbit, and the “grey men” whose only dedication is to their own self-interest.
It’s a pity, too, because Charles was a productive POW and could have been the more modern monarch he seemed to envision. IMO Harry is who he is
Hmmm..not sure why the last bit got cut off, not sure what I did. To continue:
IMO Harry is who he is, at least from a business standpoint, in part because of Charles’ example. I think Harry learned some useful lessons from his about what’s involved in putting together a project, work ethic, etc. The difference is, Charles is a weak man, while Harry not only has a spine, he has a moral compass, and the tendencies of each man are reflected in whatever they undertake (hence, Charles and his money bags, sale of titles, etc.). Harry had as much reason as Charles to spend his life ruminating on his crap childhood, but even before meeting Meghan found ways to begin healing, choosing to live his life differently. A loving father would be proud to have a son like that, but Charles’ has made his choices and won’t change at this late date.
I just can’t anymore with re-writing of history. She is just a side piece that did all in her power to wreck a family! Yes Chuckles and Diana had problems but those problems were her doing. She continues today to finish her job with Chuckles sons and all because Chuckles didn’t like his mommy and replaced her with Horsilla.
And these sympathizers of C and C write that Diana had to “win Charles over” Camilla and she failed. What sort of weirdness is this. Charles should have not married Diana if he expected her to “compete” with another woman. Charles even did not want to marry Camilla when he first met her–he told this to Dimbleby and it is in the book about Charles.
Yikes. The last woman left standing because she played the long game so viciously cannot be bothered to spend the weekends with him. This isn’t a grand love story to begin with, but it says a lot that the pattern that enabled their affair continues. Decades ago their turnip toff pals hosted them at their estates to conceal their affair. Now they just hide at their own estates and do as they please. What a way to spend the money gained through centuries of exploitation and greed. Are the people of the empire benefitted? No. Can both have affairs while mooching public funds and claiming to have a grand love story? Yeap.
You know that expression… when a mistress becomes a wife, there’s a job opening. I don’t know of any specific rumors about Charles but I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a motivating factor to his time at Highgrove, a Penny Knatchbull figure perhaps.
Charles looks bad in that “casual” shirt. Where did he find that? Makes him look even more aged.
The shirt is the handout from the Commonwealth Heads meeting in Samoa. The leaders of each country get given a shirt, themed to the country they are meeting in, for a group photo at the end. He wouldn’t have decided to wear that shirt himself.
It’s still very unflattering on him. It makes him look even more frail.
I hope it’s Princess Diana who gets to kick these two straight to hell in the afterlife.
They’ll never get away from her. Every obituary that will be written of them will always mention Diana and how they treated her.
Every anniversary, every occasion, in everything they do, people will know that Diana was always better than her and he is the supreme pussy whipped idiot to have settled for a separate companionship. Chuck doesn’t know and will never know what true love means. Sucks to be him, the unloved king.
All of that plus, in a society that places such a premium on youth and beauty she will always look young and radiant in photos while their age and inner ugliness continues to manifest ever more forcefully on the outside
The interesting thing about “rewriting history” is that they really aren’t, they are trying to rewrite current events. History, meaning 100+ years from now, will have a much different view of the Windsors than we are seeing now. I believe that view will be much more clear eyed and “brutal” than the current narrative of Windsor victim hood.
The test will be for her funeral and Chuck’s.
Will be like the Duke and Duchess of Windsor.
Camilla knows she’s hated so it’d be truly dumb of her if she insists on a grand, public funeral.
That homewrecker stench is still on Camilla after all these years? And low approval ratings too? Why bring Harry into this?
And his memoir was hardly ‘vitriolic’. Geez Louise.
No way did Charles rekindle the relationship only in 1986. Charles joined a hunt club where Camilla was a member and he was seen out riding with her in 1981 leaving Diana home (while she was having an uncomfortable pregnancy). Stuart Higgins got calls from Camilla every week during Diana and Charles marriage. The former Sun Editor said he had the impression that C and C were “in touch.” The article leaves out that Charles told the media he got involved with Camilla after she had the children with APB (this in 1978 when Diana was not around). He told this to Dimbleby during one of their interviews. Diana was 19 years old when Charles started dating her. Charles behaved badly expecting the 19 year old to accept that Camilla was a “special friend”. and presented her as “safe.” And the Oh Charles I did not want any of this spin is old and tired. If she did not want it she would not have gaslit Diana and there was the posthumous Diana bashing by Charles pals like Ingrid, Penny, Tina, and Sally.
Of course, Harry put a happy face on and behaved decently toward them. The least they could have done is return the favor concerning his marriage. I notice all the other women Charles cheated with get left out of the story.
Harry was being polite and I think he did this to please his father not Camilla.
“When you look back on it now, asking someone to sacrifice… happiness for the sake of their public persona seems really quite cruel.”
Yet that’s what they wanted Harry to do. So yes, their behavior was and is really quite cruel.
Came here to say exactly this!
‘She is a very straightforward person’ = she’s rude and DNGAF about how others feel. She’s just reframed it into a positive character trait (‘You always know where you stand’) while others understand the role of diplomacy in their relationships.
Queen of the Sidepieces certainly loves to rewrite history. This is not a great love story. It is two selfish people who didn’t care who they hurt. She is the heroine of every secretary who screwed the boss hoping to break up his marriage. IMO there is nothing to admire about this woman or their union.
Question: are her middle teeth gray?
It is left out how Camilla wanted to go to the Diana Memorial Service in 2007. She was ready to go until Diana’s friend Rosa Monckton went to the media. It was also very callous on Charles part (he should not have gone there himself). They both probably think they did nothing wrong and blame Diana. If Charles wanted Camilla he could have stayed single, forced the divorce of C and APB and up and married her. Diana was chosen to have the heirs. Charles just cared about becoming King no matter what.
Didn’t know that 🤔
The hide of that woman. But karma got her back. Camilla will never nor should she expect to receive that week-long outpouring of public grief between Diana’s death and her funeral.
Oh dear, here we go again – it’s your 20th wedding anniversary Camilla and Chuck but we’re still talking about Diana 😂
Just a petty side note: Just try visualizing what the children Charles & Camilla would have had looked like! Ugh! Ugly as f**k!
What an image! Now imagine these two ghouls grilling Harry about what the gorgeous Sussex couple’s future children would look like
The same woman who had lunch with Piers and Clarkson. That says it all. Clarkson who wrote the trashy article about Meghan. And Charles says nothing when his second son and daughter in law are attacked by the media. And he evicts his own grandchildren.
The other day I I found myself thinking ‘where would the BRF be now if Charles had married Camilla in the first place?’. In a place with less privilege and significantly less relevance especially globally and I don’t think this is something Charles, and probably a lot of courtiers, can admit. I mean how many people reading this page would know about the BRF if there was no Princes Di?
I think Charles would have cheated if he married her. He was not “faithful” to Camilla he had other relationships. Dale Tryon for instance and Janet Jenkins. among others.
Chuck would have regretted it. He wanted Camilla because he lost her to APB. Like someone else’s toy.
Had he first married her, Chuck would have been insecure about all the other men she’d had before him because the papers would have been all over it to remind him: The to-be Princess of Wales is NOT a virgin! First one in centuries!
When Diana became engaged, much was made of her virginity. Even her father got roped in to declare she was untouched. Even she herself said she had to be “clean and tidy.”
Camilla would have been a dull consort as Princess of Wales and their marriage would have fractured under their combined insipidity because they would not have been able to successfully promote British soft power. Or it would like today keeping separate households with both having side pieces – she with APB, he with Kanga and whoever.
Watch Wolf Hall, y’all. The Brits have been pulling palace intrigue BS for a very long time.
They accuse Harry of revisionist history with some revisionist history of their own.
Too late, C&C. Your history has already been written and it’s etched in stone.
Sigh. Camilla does seem to want praise even though she claims she doesn’t. But she will forever be known for her treatment of Diana. As will Charles. End of story.
Deciding to make the 20th anniversary a big thing could be interpreted as an indication that there’s less likely to be a 25th anniversary
How can she be both “very straightforward” and also “sphinxlike”? That’s completely contradictory.
I wish she was sphinx like so we don’t have to hear from her or about her. But noooo, her tabloid minions have to write about what she thinks about this, that or the other.
They keep trying to convince people otherwise but when it comes to the Palace, the North Korea propaganda principle applies.
All hail the humble Queen Camilla who was FORCED to wear the crown.
If Chuck truly loved her, he would have asked her to divorce APB and stepped down like the Duke of Windsor. 😏
“The Royal Family don’t do illness… ” Wha??????
“Interestingly, the couple still spend significant periods apart, in what one source describes as the ‘quaintly old-fashioned, aristocratic way’ . . .” Hahaha. Sure Jan.
So he still has other sidepieces then? Or does she? Or is it both of them? I assume APB still visits her regularly.
“Even their supporters admit that mistakes were made.” Mistakes were made.
Nice use of the passive voice to concede that Camilla and Charles wrecked Diana’s life and tortured her when she was very young and newly married.
They regret “the pain caused” (caused by whom, Charles and Camilla?) but still are trashing the memory of Diana all these years later. I hope Diana haunts them into the afterlife.
Not My Queen
Just an awful awful person
She’s been foisted on the public & is barely tolerated
That’s mostly because no one can be bothered to protest with so much other sh** in the world
Most of the time I forget he is even monarch
That’s how most people feel
It has always amused me that Betty’s PR was she’s tough and ‘puts the monarchy above all else” while Chuck’s has always been “hapless victim of the monarchy” who’s always being forced into things. Forced to marry Diana, forced to be a father, forced to strip his 2nd son and grandchildren of their security and take away their UK home. Chuck’s actions are so terrible that he and his staff would rather portray him as a helpless victim of fate that have him take ownership of anything he’s done and his wife is the same way. Cammy never wanted to be Queen she was forced by Chuck. They’re just two ugly peas from the same nasty pod running from accountability.
‘The Royal Family don’t do illness….’ What on earth?? These people are cold; that’s not blue blood in their veins, that’s ice water.
Then why did Kate and William basically take a year off?
Has she some major work done, or is that heavy photoshop? Or both?
When you look back on it now, asking someone to sacrifice… happiness for the sake of their public persona seems really quite cruel.”
Are they going to reuse this line to defend Will should he split from Kate??
You know they would !
Isn’t it sweet how they’re constantly crying about “Boohoo ! Harry and Meghan only know how to play the victims !” when in fact it’s them who are constantly playing the victims. They also love to think that we’re fools and that we don’t remember what they did to Diana and then to her son. They’re gross.
Charles was punitive to his first wife he had her h r h taken away. And punitive against the sussexes taking their UK home away. So it’s ok the to the writer for Charles to be punitive to family members other than camilla
This is an incredibly small side comment to make, but the pattern on his shirt is baffling to me. Is that what’s fashionable lately, or is it made by a local designer?
Diana and her fans always scream about the hurts others have done to her, but turn a blind eye to the fact that she has affairs with several married men and hurts their wives.
She is truly a little angel who remains pure despite having affairs with several married men.
May God and the wives of her lovers forgive her.
Lady Di’s a true idol, really—managing to stay ‘pure and pitiful’ while sleeping with multiple married men. Who needs morals when you’ve got *that* kind of talent?”
Ah, what an *inspiration*—proving you can bed half the husbands in UK and still play the blameless victim. Move over, saints—the *real* miracle is how she keeps a straight face!”
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