The Duchess of Sussex’s new podcast has debuted! The first episode of Confessions of a Female Founder is here! Remember Meghan’s Archetypes and her love of alliteration? The first episode of COFF is “The Evolution of the Entrepreneur.” A conversation with Bumble’s founder Whitney Wolfe Herd, one of Meghan’s close friends. Herd apparently gave Meghan a lot of advice as Meghan was starting As Ever. I’ve only listened to part of the interview as I’m writing this, but I’d like to say, Meghan already sounds more confident and conversational here than she did at the start of Archetypes. You can listen to COFF on Spotify or Apple (I’m including the Spotify embed at the end of the post). Anyway, the big news is that Meghan reveals that she had postpartum preeclampsia.
Meghan on postpartum preeclampsia: “We both had very similar experiences — though we didn’t know each other at the time — with postpartum, and we both had preeclampsia. Postpartum preeclampsia,” Meghan shared. Meghan didn’t clarify whether the condition occurred after the birth of her son, Prince Archie, 5, or her daughter, Princess Lilibet, 3. Wolfe Herd, meanwhile, is a mother to two sons. “It’s so rare and so scary. And you’re still trying to juggle all of these things, and the world doesn’t know what’s happening quietly. And in the quiet, you’re still trying to show up for people – mostly for your children — but those things are huge medical scares.” Wolfe Herd agreed, saying: “I mean life or death, truly.”
Wolfe Herd on watching Meghan debuted Archie: “I mean, I’ll never forget the image of you after you delivered Archie, and the whole world was waiting for his debut. I was either just becoming or about to become a new mom, and I was like, ‘Oh my God, how is this woman doing this? How is this woman putting on heels and going and debuting a child in this, you know, beautiful outfit in front of the entire world?’ I could barely face a doorbell delivery for takeout food in a robe,” she added, prompting a laugh from Meghan.
Motherhood in a pandemic: “We became moms in the pandemic, post-pandemic culture, where there is so much working from home… I don’t leave the house to go to an office; my office is here. Lili still naps, she gets picked up early and she naps. She only has a half day in preschool. If she wakes up and wants to find me, she knows where to find me, even if my door is closed to the office. She’ll be sitting there on my lap during one of these meetings with a grid of all the executives… I wouldn’t have it any other way. I don’t want to miss those moments. I don’t want to miss pickup if I don’t have to. I don’t want to miss drop-off.”
Building a business with young children at home: “What I do love the most about having young kids, in this chapter while I’m building [business], is the perspective that it brings because you’re building something while your child’s going through potty training…and both are just as important…It’s like, ‘Great, okay, where’s the Cheerios? Well done.’ And then you’re championing your team 10 minutes later about something that is really high value for the world. In your own world, that’s super high value. And in [Lili’s] world, that’s super high value.”
My guess is that Meghan’s postpartum preeclampsia was after giving birth to Lili, just because I think the British reporters would have screamed about “Meghan’s postpartum complications” in 2019. The reason people didn’t know about it is because Meghan gave birth to Lili in California. Poor Meg and poor Whitney. Whitney is great in this interview, really confessional and interesting. She and Meghan have been through some really similar things and they have a lot of comparable experiences. Anyway, I’m really enjoying this first pod from Meghan’s Lemonada contract. This format is so much better and less scattered than Archetypes!
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- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex with their baby son, who was born on Monday morning, during a photocall in St George’s Hall at Windsor Castle in Berkshire.
- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex with their baby son, who was born on Monday morning, during a photocall in St George’s Hall at Windsor Castle in Berkshire.
- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex with their baby son, who was born on Monday morning, during a photocall in St George’s Hall at Windsor Castle in Berkshire.
- The Duke and Duchess of Sussex with their baby son, who was born on Monday morning, during a photocall in St George’s Hall at Windsor Castle in Berkshire.
So scary!
Is it sad that one of the first things that came to my mind is “how horrible! So dangerous! Remember poor Lady Sybil?”
Omg I also thought of lady Sybil!
Did this also happen to Venus or Serena? I remember them having to fight to be heard and taken seriously and the stats on black women mortality rates related to childbirth.
Childbirth has always been a deadly dangerous endeavor.
I thought it was Beyoncé but wouldn’t be surprised if it happened to Serena too.
This is a silent killer. Glad she survived it and can talk about it and raise awareness.
Serena had a different but life threatening complication post C section – blood clot in her lungs. The even more frightening part is, she knew she had a tendency to form clots, immediately realized what was happening and let the staff know – but at first they didn’t listen to her.
https://www.elle.com/life-love/a39586444/how-serena-williams-saved-her-own-life/
@Windyriver thanks for that beautiful article. Even with all that fame and fortune in the world, Serena had to struggle to be heard past a gatekeeper nurse. I can only imagine many other women who were unable to, and paid with their lives as a result.
Trust your instinct ladies! Better to be thought paranoid and hypochondriac than dead.
I’m going to listen on my walk today and I can’t wait!
Post partum preeclampsia can be scary and I agree, I bet it was after Lili’s birth. Just another reason why leaving the UK was a smart decision, so medical issues can remain private (I mean, they’re private for Kate, but M was always treated differently as we know.)
I loved Archetypes as well as this new Podcast. Probably because my mind jumps around so much I am able to follow along with the way these two good friends seemed to enjoy each other so much while sharing. Also I love hearing from so many of Meghan’s friends re the quality of her home hosting and the comfort they feel when she hosts them at her home. The. Podcast was very informative re the insecurity these women started with while building and how they were able to get it together and charge forward.
I absolutely loved it and like Maxine, I really enjoyed archetypes as well.
It was such an interesting conversation. Looking forward to the next drop.
I’m excited to listen to this later!❤️
I listened while I was getting ready for work this morning and I really enjoyed the episode. Meghan does sound more confident, but I think it helps to have her first guest be a friend but also someone who has an idea what the product will sound like since this is the second podcast.
I also think this was after Lili because they were able to keep that pregnancy under wraps and out of the spotlight with no expectation of ” presentation” that allowed her to heal in a different way.
I don’t want to threadjack but I REALLY enjoyed Whitney’s perspective on media intrusion and negativity from the perspective of someone who experienced it as well. Looking forward to that breakdown.
This just shows how powerful and influential Meghan’s friends are.
The connections she has, that they both have, will ensure they will never ever return to that cesspit.
I also liked how someone said out loud how crazy it is what she is going through with the media. In UK, Meghan was always told, this is how it is, she needs to live with it. Still, people don’t talk enough about the media bullying she is going through. I am very happy, Whitney called it out. Since she went through something similar even in a small scale, she understands what it is like, truly.
Meghan has to deal with it every single day.
They really want to destroy her but the more people call it out – especially from the rich, the powerful, the seriously influential – the less their sting will hurt.
Meghan enjoys school drop offs and pick ups? I can hear the rage all the way over here in NY
The school runs are MIIIIINNNNNEEEEE!!!! Harold, control your wife! They’re MIIINNEEE!!!!
😂😂😂
Thanks for the laughs.
Cue from the rats: Meghan’s school runs are not authentic and are compounding the breach between the Prince of Wales has with his brother.
@heatherc I noticed that too lol. I do not doubt it’s going to make it’s way into a tabloid story about W/K very soon
William and Kate going to be papped doing the school run the first day those kids are back after break, lol.
And to me, the striking difference is that Meghan is talking about how she can do the school run AND STILL WORK – that she can still have meetings while Lili naps, or can work with potty training in between emails etc. As a fellow working mom who is full time remote, those really are great perks. My kids are older so no naps (whomp whomp) but its nice to walk to the bus stop in the morning with my 4th grader, or tell my 7th grader I love him as he runs out the door. and its a perk to know that if they forget their violin or whatever, I can run it the mile up to school.
My job is typically pretty flexible and even when I was in the office more I was still able to volunteer and all that, but being full time at home is a really nice perk for having kids. and I am still one of the top producers in my component.
Of course all that is changing thanks to Trusk.
And, she is still working while making school runs? What kind of sorcery is this? 😂😂
🤣
It seems like Meghan has found her niche, her tribe, and is finally coming across as being safely centered in her own little universe — no negative connotations implied.
The COFF Meghan sounds more confident, more poised than the Archetypes Meghan, even if I liked it a lot back then and still do.
Postpartum pre-eclampsia is scary, and it’s good to hear WWH and Meghan talk about it, as so many facts around female (maternal, mental) health are somehow still being treated as something icky by men — even by male doctors, even by male gynos and obstetricians. Especially now, by all those cultists and cultist-adjacents.
does anyone know if there are transcripts? links appreciated, thanks in advance!
Apple podcasts seems to have an automatic transcription feature.
So Spotify is still cashing in on Meghan?
This will be a good thing to listen to later today to get my mind on something more positive.
I enjoyed it and I would agree that Meghan is more confident on this show. I’m looking forward to the next episode.
I for one loved Archetypes. I completely dismissed Paris Hilton until Meg pulled that story out of her. And the “diva” discussion with Mariah Carey was riveting. I still think about the “dragon lady” episode… I wish she’d kept on with it. Maybe she can have multiple podcasts going at the same time!
I’m hopeful that Meghan’s thoughts and perspectives – about archetypes about building things about motherhood about how stages of life can so easily define you – will sort of become an amalgamation into her pod casts. Or maybe she means her podcasts to be subject specific – like books? That would be cool too. Lots of podcasters start with one format and then move into this pod is about this. This next one is about this. So. Almost like a mini book in their own right?
Regardless of her approach – I’m sure interested in anything she produces!
I too enjoyed archetypes but I chose not to listen to the Paris Hilton episode. I choose not to give her any attention or validation. I treat the kardashians the same but they’re harder to avoid
I also loved Archetypes. Sometimes it felt a bit rushed since they included comments from experts who had researched the archetype discussed, but had to fit it into expected ~1-hr time. Guess I can go back and listen again, find the interesting experts and read more from them elsewhere.
I too thoroughly enjoyed Archetypes. Didn’t bother with the Paris Hilton episode because…Paris. But Archetypes had me engaged and wanting more.
Agree she sounds more smooth in this one. And how is this being hosted on Spotify after the grifters crap? Why I love it when people say they hate them but still want to cash in on them.
Preeclampsia is rare in a second pregnancy if it doesn’t happen in the first so I think it would have been with Archie but as someone said above it would have been almost imposible to keep it from the press. I’m glad everything turned out ok though.
Rare but not unknown. I know someone who had pre and post-eclampsia after her second but not her first. Her second was classified as a geriatric pregnancy because she was over 35 so maybe that was a difference too.
Good thing I said rare then.
I had a friend who had it after her 3rd child. A friend, who was a doctor, told her to immediately go to her GP. Luckily she did. The GP called an ambulance, and she wound up in the ICU for 6 days while they fought to bring down her blood pressure.
Sheesh! 6 days! Bloody hell. Can imagine awful that would have been for her body. I think they used some sort of magnesium sulfate to treat it? Really basic stuff to bring down the BP.
The more awareness of this the better because it is easily treatable – but can’t be prevented (happy to be corrected by the medics on here).
This is how my mother lost a 9 month pregnancy 2 days before her due date (in the 80s) This was her second pregnancy. When she got pregnant for a third time (me) she was heavily medicated and I had to be delievered weeks before the due date.
I don’t have children but when my younger sister got pregnant the first thing my mother did was take her to a million appointments and spent the last trimester attached to her, controlling her pressure. She had to be medicated during the last month and she was able to deliver a healthy son with no complications. It was still a scary time for my mother.
Your poor mom. She sounds lovely.
How traumatising – and retraumatising – for your mum. And at 9 months too…
I had pre-eclampsia after my second (and last) delivery. Never had it during either of my pregnancies, only happened on day 2 as I was about to be discharged. I was in the hospital for nine more days and had three days where I was unconscious in the ICU. Its awful and my family thought I was dying. I can’t imagine any woman going through that and having a subsequent pregnancy, so I firmly believe this had to have been with Lili.
Glad you survived to tell your tale @MSDarcy
I do wonder what is the trigger for it. Still a medical mystery because it can be so random.
I’m about halfway through and it is very good! Definitely picking up on a level of comfort and curiosity and Whitney is dropping gems!
She was over 35 so it is it was not a wonder and she had a loss before that. Im pretty sure that after her talking about this the daily mail and friends would go like “she wants to be like Kate, or she is so fake i don’t believe it” but they had no probleme to Praising Kate for her fake cancer. they did not believe it when she lost her second baby wich btw was they constant harassment result
@lily
I’m afraid that Kate’s cancer isn’t the only one that’s fake. She had all three “pregnancies” with an identical belly that grew at the same rate, which is virtually impossible, and she looked the same, she just gained weight, then hid for a few months and reappeared as skinny as a wooden stick.
And considering that in many lying articles all you have to do is replace HM with WK and they’ll be true, look how many of them were devoted to “Meghan’s fake pregnancy”.
I just listened to it and it gave me a reason to go for a walk. That was a very lovely conversation. Since it is about female founders, I expected something more technical. This is more my jam, dealing with issues, compartmentalization, priorities, etc. I didn’t know how Bumble came about. It was very cool to learn about its beginning too. I think, since they are friends, it sounded like conversation between two women, which was nice.
I just listened but could only vaguely remember Whitney’s story. It really is a small world and everyone has a story ❤️
I had Post preeclampsia with my second pregnancy, no complications with my first. I am guessing age related, as I was older for both pregnancies, as was Meaghan. I had to do every other day checks at the doctor the first two weeks, then home pressure checks and twice weekly checks at the doctor until my blood pressure came down. With a not quite walking toddler and a newborn life was difficult there for awhile.
Same for my sister although it was her first and she was 31. She even had a holter attached for a week and my dad’s cardiologist would see her EVERY day just to make sure everything was under control.
It was a good first podcast. I remember the Tinder sexual harassment case in the NY Times and didn’t realize that was her from back in the day. Meghan mentioned they both had postpartum preeclampsia but it wasn’t a whole big conversation or anything. There were a lot of good gems in the podcast but they typically have to zero in on stuff like that and then talk about it for days on end. I think they’re talking about it with so much focus because Whitney mentioned her having to present Archie all done up in heels, when most women are in no shape to get out of bed 2days postpartum. I remember the furor over that. Anyway it was part of a larger context. Meghan does sound more confident, relaxed and just smart. The thing about porch pirates was funny because we’ve all had that. She probably has her mail processed somewhere off-site to screen it for threats or anthrax etc., so there’s that. So much to unpack. Looking forward to next week.
I remember, they also talked sh*t about Meghan, because she didn’t go in front of the cameras the same day she gave birth 🙄 Of course, now we know they were told that Archie wasn’t given security, so there was even discussion about presenting him to the public when there would no security for him specifically. The sh*t this woman went through…
I like Whitney wonder how Meghan gets through the abuse. It’s constant, nonsensical and vile . I don’t know how these people live with themselves . I have such admiration for Meghan. They want to break her so she never recovers and do something that there is no coming back from. And I admire how she refuses to fall victim to them. She holds her back straight and said forget you .