Prince Harry was ushered to the Royal Courts Of Justice in London. By the looks of it, Harry has his private security in tow, plus there were several uniformed police officers escorting him into court. Harry did the same thing he did for previous court appearances: he waved to the photographers waiting to see him. Nothing like flying in for a quick court appearance in London and looking happy, wealthy and well put together. This is Harry’s second time in the UK since Keir Starmer became PM – Harry also made an undercover visit last fall, for a Spencer family funeral.
As for this court appearance, it’s all about Harry’s security situation in the UK for his visits. Since this is constantly and willfully misreported, let me describe what this is really about: the Sussexes had their royal protection withdrawn in March 2020. Since then, they’ve had private security, which they pay for themselves. For years, Harry has been suing Ravec, the secretive group which determines who gets royal protection and when. Harry’s main beef, at this point, is that for his visits to the UK, police protection isn’t automatically given, it’s determined on a case-by-case basis and Harry has to provide 30-days notice for whenever he plans to visit. Harry believes that his private security is insufficient in the UK because of the racist threats and terrorist threats against him, his wife and his children, and he has been fighting for years to simply have Met Police protection guaranteed. That’s what the public hearing is about this week.
As for the royal gossip aspect of this visit… lol. King Charles and Camilla arrived in Rome on Monday, so they’re far away at the moment. At least we don’t have to see a million stories about “the King purposefully snubbed Harry, oh wait, no he didn’t, Harry snubbed his father and Charles is really mad about it!” Charles and Camilla’s Roman Holiday wasn’t decided at the last minute either – it’s been on the books for months, so it’s just a coincidence that they’re out of town this week. As for the Other Brother and his wife… they’ve been in the wind for the past two weeks (Kate hasn’t been seen since St. Patrick’s Day). It would be funny if one of them popped up suddenly today. “Don’t forget about meeeeeeee!”
I’m just seeing this Hello Magazine report – apparently, Harry actually flew into London on Sunday, and he arrived in the afternoon. King Charles arrived in London earlier on Sunday, so it was conceivable that father and son could have met up. But Hello says they did not. I would also assume that, if Harry has been in the UK since Sunday, that he’s staying at an undisclosed location/hotel and not one of the palaces.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
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- Prince Harry arrives at The Royal Courts Of Justice in London, England, UK on Tuesday 8 April, 2025 for the start of a two day hearing to appeal the decision over his security access at the Appeals Court.,Image: 985031249, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng/Avalon
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- Prince Harry arrives at The Royal Courts Of Justice in London, England, UK on Tuesday 8 April, 2025 for the start of a two day hearing to appeal the decision over his security access at the Appeals Court.,Image: 985031284, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng/Avalon
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- Prince Harry arrives at The Royal Courts Of Justice in London, England, UK on Tuesday 8 April, 2025 for the start of a two day hearing to appeal the decision over his security access at the Appeals Court.,Image: 985031308, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng/Avalon
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- Prince Harry arrives at The Royal Courts Of Justice in London, England, UK on Tuesday 8 April, 2025 for the start of a two day hearing to appeal the decision over his security access at the Appeals Court.,Image: 985031318, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng/Avalon
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- Prince Harry arrives at The Royal Courts Of Justice in London, England, UK on Tuesday 8 April, 2025 for the start of a two day hearing to appeal the decision over his security access at the Appeals Court.,Image: 985031329, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng/Avalon
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- Prince Harry arrives at The Royal Courts Of Justice in London, England, UK on Tuesday 8 April, 2025 for the start of a two day hearing to appeal the decision over his security access at the Appeals Court.,Image: 985031333, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: Please credit photographer and agency when publishing as Justin Ng/UPPA/Avalon., Model Release: no, Credit line: Justin Ng/Avalon
Give them hell Harry.
Watching it live streamed on bbc..looks like his attorney are doing just that.
Is it normal for a case like this to be aired live? That just feels like it’s adding to existing risks.
Is there a link?
I hope he and his hanger get out of there safely and victorious asap. 😉
Good luck to him. A country that has a monarchy should pay security for those born into it. More or less like what is done with princess Madeline?
Good for Harry to show them he *really* means business.
What I don’t get: Harry not only has a target on his back because of the envy, or even hate, emanating from his birth family. They should have acknowledged long ago that Harry actually served queen and country, unlike others in his family.
But he and Meghan also have the whole of British media against them, stoking misogynoir flames.
Why do they lie that it will be tax payer funded when he clearly states he wil pay for it himself.
He looks good ,fit and healthy and on another mission .
Unfortunately I doubt it will be successful .
They won’t let him pay. He went to court over this and the judge said no.
I still don’t get it. Every ex-Prime Minister is entitled to life long police protection. Taxpayers fund the general costs at home and for engagements in some sort of official capacity. When they go on vacations they have to recompensate the costs for their protection officers. So does Tony Blair ever since. So why can’t Harry?
@SuOutdoors, because a group of men say so. They decide if he gets security or not. That is why Harry is fighting to see the legality of their reasons. Not just ex-government leaders, famous people with serious threats against them are also afforded taxpayer paid protection like Salman Rushdie. The government refused to disclose how much they paid for his protection, but they are happy to disclose everything about Harry’s to enrage the public.
I’m aware that this isn’t about justice. Its about control and punishment. For the cruel king and his raging heir this might be completely okay. But a judge should have to meet higher standards. So I still wonder how a “neutral” court can justify royal pettiness…
I can’t speak to the neutrality of the court in the uk. Harry and Meghan have won their cases against the press but this one seems more about agreements bw the govt and the RF. So how will the court hold up to that idk? Our SC is a partisan shit show so I’m pretty pessimistic.
He did offer to pay for it himself. It just gets left out of the coverage. However, I do believe during the last security trial, the judge ruled he could not pay out of pocket for the security so if he gets security it would be paid for by tax-payers. That’s my understanding of what happened but could be wrong?
yeah, I think there was discussion about how this level of protection is not for sale etc. But I’m still glad Harry made the offer because its out there now that he did, that he’s not looking for freebies. He’s just looking for a certain level of protection that he can’t get from his usual security team.
I think its clear the 30 day review period is so that the royals can know what he’s doing, when he’s coming, why, etc. but I can also see that being adjusted to being a notification period so the RPOs etc can plan accordingly. So he doesn’t have to ask for the security every time but still gives notice. Its also clear from his visit last January that last minute security CAN be arranged…especially if the monarch approves it.
So I think its interesting to see how this will shake out.
Yeah, it was good he offered but that detail often gets left out of the coverage. It doesn’t fit the narrative of selfish Harry just wanting tax-payers to pay for his security. But either way, at this point, I don’t think Harry even cares if the RF has a heads up. Yes it will suck bc it will likely get leaked. But I think he might be willing to deal with that as long as he gets guaranteed security. Of course, the leaks would make the security challenges worse.
There is no mechanism for him to pay, if your life is in danger you have a right to protection and judging by the way he actually gets it they know that it is. I think the problem is because he isn’t a working royal, if they give it to him they would have to give it to the rest of the non working royals.
Nope. Protection should be based on a thorough risk assessment and could apply to anyone, royal or not. Harry was treated differently to everyone else. No proper risk assessment was undertaken.
They give it to visiting dignitaries and celebrities. Their security coordinates with the MET and with government agencies who are aware of threats to the person or to others as a result of their presence to neutralize or mitigate the risks with up to date intel and coordination with protection groups.
All Harry wants is for the threat level to determine the protection and coordination given – as it is with every single other person. REVAC did this to him to be putative and to put him in harms way. That’s unacceptable from any institution.
Taylor Swift got taxpayer-funded security, outriders included, in the UK — after the terrorist’s plot that was unveiled for the Vienna concert.
And the Met didn’t have 30 days notice to arrange for it, but somehow made it work anyway.
The Met also managed to arrange security for several heads of governments and foreign ministers with less than two days of warning after Felon47 and the Divan Interventionist attacked Volodymyr Zelenskyy in the White House — for that meeting in Lancaster House on March 2.
But iirc, Harry has applied for protection in the last, given 30 days notice and still been denied. In the last trial, didn’t it come out that he had been denied security a number of times. And what could the reason for the denial be? I’m assuming his risk-level had not gone down. Was a reason given or was it kept opaque?
@Beth The risk assessment issue was already addressed. Harry asked if the threat level had changed when they took his security away, and the answer was no.
You have police officers going on record saying they face a high level of threat so this security issue is going to create another Diana scenario – which Chuck disagrees with. Harry and his family needs security in the UK but his family is willing for him to be sacrificed, like Diana. If he dies, Harry as the problem goes away and everything will return to their normal.
‘Non-working royal’. Way to reduce the Monarch’s son. 🙄
The DM still leaves that part out and a lot of derangers believe it and lie about it. He’s been saying for years he will pay for it, them denying it is because they wanted to force him to return. I honestly wonder how Invictus is going to work. He may tell Meghan to stay home and I don’t blame him.
Sir Edward Young, who was then a top aide to TQ and a senior royal advisor was also on the board of RAVEC, the secretive group that monitors and decides who gets RPO security. He personally hated Harry and when Harry asked Young to pass on his offer to pay for his own security to the other RAVEC members, he simply didn’t. Harry should have been able to make direct requests to RAVEC to ensure they were properly communicated, but that never happened. Clearly Young was in league with Charles (and possible William) to turn down any RPO security even though Harry was more than willing to pay. His lawyer stated…”His offer to pay for his own police protection was not conveyed to RAVEC and so the decision was materially prejudiced”, hence the ongoing court action.
Heavens, speakest thou against Baron Young of Old Windsor? (Peerage granted by Charles after Young left royal service.). I can’t remember which one he was of Harry’s trio of Fly, Wasp or Bee. I like bees, and I’m sorry Harry used bee as a descriptor – Flea works better, and is more appropriate too, as fleas are parasites.
@windyriver — Unfortunately he was “The Bee” and I agree he should have been named The Flea…Wood Louse comes to mind as well.
There is some delicious irony that for so long Young has kept in the shadows until Harry shone the limelight on him in Spare, and now with this court action. Harry is showing his father and the entire world the unaccountable power these men wield when they are supposed to be in service to the family, not the other way around: “You delegated too much power to him Pa, and now my family’s lives are under threat.”
Harry keeps receipts Edward, and you are in his sights. Sucks to be you – enjoy your baronetcy! 😂
Well. Bees buzz around, gather things up, return to the hive and make royal jelly – an amalgamation of what’s been collected and created etc – and feed it to the isolated Queen at the center of the hive.
Might be more accurate than first thought.
How the hell would Hello magazine think they know? Well, they’ve recently got into bed with the repulsive Matt Wilkinson from The Sun (metaphorically speaking, one hopes). As if The Sun would know anything 🤣🤣🤣
The court is live on YouTube. I would never have imagined it to be public
I suppose there is one advantage, when the newspapers report on it they will have to stick to the truth.
The truth being right there in front of the media and derangers has never mattered even if it was in photos, videos, live stream or documented format they still refuse to tell or acknowledge the truth because it’s about them needing to push a false narrative. They don’t value the truth. Ethics mean nothing to them.
I’ve been watching it for about an hour. His lawyer is very good.
Link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGTQAmIDK3c
@Barb Thanks. The stream ends abruptly at 1:31:40?
Where is keen the,peacemaker.
Mustique? Who knows really.
It is my understanding that the major argument is the 30 day notice. It gives the people who are out to harm he and Meghan a 30 day notice, as well. He continues to receive threats of bodily harm which I hope will be presented.
So if his father dies he won’t be able to attend the funeral, In theory.
@Sunnyside Up, it could work if Charles would give 30 days notice before he goes tits up
Harry has gotten protection for royal work related events so far.
@Aurelia — Harry brings his own protection, they’re not RPO officers.
I think, the major argument is they can still deny his request. They already did in the past.
This. What if he wants to attend a wedding or just visit people and show his kids the country. It’s not work-related and so what? It will be ruled then they can’t get security. This is where I get mad. The country supports a monarchy. Harry was born into it and has spent his whole life being the spare that is written about by the disgusting tabloids at length. The public has lapped it up for decades. Sanctioned by the RF as protection for their own misdeeds. Gtfoh that the public that has enjoyed reading about him his whole life can’t now pay for his family’s security. Fr, GTFOH. It’s called vindictive barbarism. Dystopian cruelty. I have no patience for it. So will Charlotte and Louis one day have no royal protection?
@Jais, I am sure the rules will suddenly change when W&K’s kids grow up. Charles is paying for Andrew’s security too. I don’t believe one second that Andrew’s security comes with no guns or no access to intelligence reports for the threats against him. The issue is, the decision making process has no transparency, so we don’t know anything about it, but what is leaked to the media. The only time we learned about who was in RAVEC was when Harry went to court for the security. That is banana republic level of secrecy.
It is my understanding the major argument in the appeal is that the prior judge ruled it was ok for Ravec to make a decision back in 2020 without proper risk assessment. His attorney, Shaheed Fatima KC, is making a compelling argument that Ravec should not have relied on only their own thinking in supplanting the assessment by an “expert specialist body” (RMB, risk management board). Fatima pointed out Ravec even went against its own policy in not getting the “expert” assessment. Nor have they ever had an RMB analysis done in intervening years despite other security incidents. Prior judge said having the “bespoke” Ravec process for Harry was awesome; Fatima is arguing that Harry was singled out for “unjustified and inferior treatment.” Part of the hearing will be behind closed doors for security purposes.
So RAVEC didn’t apply “due process” to their decision making. In fact, they ignored it. Ok…
You see, Young could have gotten away with this had they not created this bullshit committee. But they did for appearance’s sake and so that they could pretend this was done with scrutiny etc.
Basically you have all these little despots pretending to have had consensus decision making but going with their initial decision. RAVEC was a rubber stamp committee and not a proper committee in what most professional settings consider.
Again, the Palace’s platinum standard of these grey men 😂 stick to the pomp and ceremony bit because they can’t even do their bureaucracy properly.
I do wonder how they can claim that there is not threat or risk level when both of his deployments ended due to his position being exposed and the prospect of him being actively hunted looming. As well as both his location in Canada as well as his temporary home provided by Tyler Perry in the USA being leaked to the world at large.
If there wasn’t a hungry market for the knowledge of his exact location, these locations being leaked would have meant nothing.
I wish the best for Harry!!
Well this explains the absolute blizzard of negative press over the past two weeks. There’s Prince Andrew corruption news, the heir is still in the wind, and Harry’s back in London, looking fit, tan, and happy.
The press have been saying for a few days now that Harry was going to the UK. I’m going to guess that the Palace knew that he was going to be there and told the press.
I would assume it’s been on the court docket for some time and therefore public knowledge?
I don’t know how UK courts work, but it makes sense this was a known date/time for this proceeding.
The court date has been known but Harry didn’t have to attend in person. So technically that’s a surprise but it’s also v possible that the RF leaked that Harry would be there to the journalists bc they didn’t seem super surprised.
Jurnos trawled the court dockets. It’s not top secret.
https://unpacked4.wordpress.com/2025/04/08/daddy-dearest-the-crowns-coldest-cut/
JP Caonabo’s article reminding us that the case may be against the Home Office, but it Charles’ orders they’re following
I love JPCaonabo articles he/she nails it with every story .
Thanks for posting, that’s an excellent article, spot on.
He is king but he is no father. King Charles the Cruel indeed.
Harry looks like has great pecs in the top photo. I also didn’t realize his brows were so blonde. They look almost translucent.
I think they’ve been bleached out by that warm California sun!
Taylor Swift, foreign heads of state, you name it all get security paid for by taxpayers. And arranged last minute even. The reason Harry doesn’t : His own flesh and blood, his father who threw him out of his secure house ( given by QEIi), his brother Cain ! That’s the reason!
“Both the King and the Prince of Wales’s closest aides play a central role in decisions made about the Sussexes’ security on Ravec.
Sir Clive Alderton, the King’s private secretary, replaced Sir Edward Young, Elizabeth II’s private secretary, on the committee and sits alongside another senior member of the King’s household as well as a senior member of Prince William’s household”
( from The Telegraph, sworn enemy of everything Sussex and yet…)
Yeah, Harry really looks like he’s been suffering in Montecito, deprived of the company of his father’s family.
(snark)
Harry looks like an entire snack. 😍
The tacky mags in the stands near our checkouts at supermarkets here in Oz , one on their cover had a shocking photo of Harry with the headline, Harry broken beyond repair , or some such nonsense .
Every week there is a ridiculous , libellous cover story, all made up .
He looks far from broken to me .