Here are some photos of King Charles and Queen Camilla in Rome on Tuesday. They had a busy day of “standing around various historic buildings and sites.” One of the biggest appearances was their tour of the Colosseum, where they waved to tourists visiting the historic site like the tourists were there to see them. It would be like going to the Louvre and saying “are all of these people here to see me??” That being said, the BBC reports that Charles was greeted with some shouts of “Carlo!” LMAO. What do Italians call Camilla? “Cavalla?”
I’m covering this separately, but most of the royal rota was in Rome with C&C, and they were so mad that Prince Harry turned up in London yesterday. Harry’s appearance affected the coverage of the Roman Holiday, but I actually think it worked in Charles’s favor in a weird way. If Harry hadn’t gone to court, then the rota wouldn’t have been able to throw tantrums about Harry “stealing his father’s Italian thunder.” Thus, more people are now aware that C&C are actually in Rome, whereas this trip would have been mostly ignored by the media.
Because of that attention, this awkward moment with Camilla is getting a lot of play online. Camilla and Charles were greeting dignitaries and Camilla didn’t know where to stand as Charles angrily gestured at her. Today is their 20th anniversary and there are dozens of stories about C&C’s trashy, bloody love story, and lots of people are pouring it on thick about how much C&C complete each other. But Charles seems genuinely annoyed with her on this trip, and they both look over all of this.
The king doesn’t do well with waiting 🤣
Camila stood in the middle of the room looking lost she didn’t know which way to go, infront of the world press.. so was the king Rude to his wife calling her over & gesturing her angrily where she needs to be🤔🤔 let’s see how this one… pic.twitter.com/YFkoreyXUj— SK 💃🏾🕺 (@Rimmesfk) April 8, 2025
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Cover Images.
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- Visit of the Royals of the United Kingdom to the Archaeological Park of the Colosseum. In the photo King Charles III and Queen Camilla .Rome, Italy, 08 Apr 2025,Image: 985086213, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Francesco Fotia/AGF Foto/Avalon
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- Visit of the Royals of the United Kingdom to the Archaeological Park of the Colosseum. In the photo King Charles III and Queen Camilla .Rome, Italy, 08 Apr 2025,Image: 985086308, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Francesco Fotia/AGF Foto/Avalon
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- Visit of the Royals of the United Kingdom to the Archaeological Park of the Colosseum. In the photo King Charles III .Rome, Italy, 08 Apr 2025,Image: 985086335, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Francesco Fotia/AGF Foto/Avalon
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- Visit of the Royals of the United Kingdom to the Archaeological Park of the Colosseum. In the photo King Charles III .Rome, Italy, 08 Apr 2025,Image: 985086348, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Francesco Fotia/AGF Foto/Avalon
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- Their Majesties, King Charles III and Queen Camilla, arrive at the Colosseum in Rome, Italy, on 8 April 2025.,Image: 985159949, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: Stefano Costantino TTL/Avalon
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- King Charles III and Queen Camilla arriving for their visit to Quirinale Palace, in Rome, on the second day of their four day state visit to Italy. Featuring: King Charles III and Queen Camilla Where: Rome, Italy When: 08 Apr 2025 Credit: Victoria Jones/PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- King Charles III and Queen Camilla are received by the President of the Italian Republic, Sergio Mattarella and the President’s daughter, Laura Mattarella as they arrive for their visit to Quirinale Palace, in Rome, on the second day of their four day state visit to Italy. Featuring: King Charles III and Queen Camilla with President of the Italian Republic, Sergio Mattarella and the President’s daughter, Laura Mattarell Where: Rome, Italy When: 08 Apr 2025 Credit: Victoria Jones/PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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- King Charles III and Queen Camilla visit the Colosseum in Rome, on the second day of their four day state visit to Italy Featuring: King Charles III, Queen Camilla Where: Rome, Italy When: 08 Apr 2025 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
Meanwhile, a group of tour operators have been fined a colossal amount for using bots to rig ticketing to the Colosseum so people couldn’t buy the regular entry tickets and were forced into choosing options with other things bolted on like guided tours.
It’s nice when once in a while consumers come out on top although they didn’t give a figure on how much more people had to spend to get into the Colosseum as a result during the years impacted.
So glad to hear this! It was so impossible to get tickets last year, I ended up buying parco memberships to get members only entrance slots rather than pay the exorbitant fees.
Carlo is the Italian translation of Charles (I am Italian & Sicilian), just as my dad’s name was Joe/Joseph (in English) and Giuseppe in Italian.
Yes they will be calling her Cavalla which by the way is served over there which they eat as another protein so she better be careful lol. Wow Chuckles angrily motioning her to stand in the right place . Guess that’s were Peg learned to do that to his wife.
William was rejected by other women
He treated Kate badly before they got engaged. She wanted to be queen so Kate clung on to william
He sure did and he learned it all from watching dear old Dad.
Susan: Diana once told, that when she was swimming with 3 year old William, he suddenly said, you are the most selfish person on earth… He heard his father say it…
Yes little ears pick up everything and Chuckles could have cared less about what he said to Diana in front of their son.
Anyone else notice how much the Cow and RFK, Jr look alike? The same sneer, the same grimace for a “smile”, the same leathered face. It was my first thought looking at the thumbnail for this story.
And actually, I for one, am laughing hysterically at this cartoon moment: Chuckie’s like Yosemite Sam, gesturing angrily, hoppingly mad (you can almost see the steam), and Cow’s Elmer Fudd-like looking around (“Which way did he go? Which way did he go”?) 😄 😄 😄
It always strikes me as extremely peculiar when The Homewrecker and her Plus One go on these tours.
They attempt to paint a rosy picture of marital bliss (to assure the public that what they did to Diana was ‘worth it’), and invariably that narrative lasts all of five minutes before Plus One pulls a Shiny Hat Tantrum. All it does is emphasize why The Homewrecker spends so much time at Ray Mill and in hiding in various international spa retreats.
And these two insufferables have the sagging, ruched cheek to believe H&M are damaging the monarchy? Ugh, please.
That was bad, really bad. He gestured at her as though she were a dog. Sit! Stand! And he did that whole clenched teeth thing. Geez Louise. And in public!!!!! No wonder she spends most of her time at Ray Mill. As for her, not knowing where to go… Huh. Guess she doesn’t read her briefing papers, either. Then again, she’s done this before, meet & greet, pose for photos, etc. Not that hard to remember the process.
They complete each other so much that they live in separate residences.
Clearly, they can’t stand each other. Their alleged love story is literally a fairy tale.
😂😂😂 nothing says “greatest love story” ever told when they only see each other occasionally during foreign trips.
We know how the greatest love story never told ends lol
Camilla is incompetent. Loraine has been mistressing her whole life, she is untrained for her position, she has no idea what to do.
They remind me of something I read in a biography of the Duchess of Windsor, Wallis Simpson. She had said to a friend at a party celebrating her 20th wedding anniversary to the Duke, “You have no idea how hard it is to live a great love story.”
Camilla doesn’t look well. Neither does Charles, but that is to be expected. I wouldn’t be surprised what is going on behind the scenes.
Charles can’t love anyone. He doesn’t know what it means, remember?
He has needs and has been dependent on Camilla, but it’s never been true love because Charles is incapable of that.
Mattarella is so over this two clowns
This is how this man treats his wife in front of foreign dignitaries, the press, and strangers on their anniversary and I’m supposed to believe that Meghan is the bully? To think this sort of treatment EVER let alone in public was ok says so much about how they believe they can speak to and treat people around them, especially those lower on their vaunted HiErArchY.
And I think I’m about to do something wild and defend Camilla. She was at the end of the receiving line turned to see where Charles went, was heading over stopped because she wasn’t sure if the photographers were taking photos and if she should interrupt it and then she walked over. All of this occurred in less than 10 seconds. There was no need to gesture to her like she was a dog that you were calling to come and sit at your side
She should have said farewell after he married Diana. She treated Diana with contempt. And now Meghan and harry. She has to play nice with william.
But she enjoyed his attention.
And money.
and she got to be Queen Consort.
She enjoyed his attention AND being the focus of the posh social circles that loved the drama. She was the dinner guest in town for decades.
I’m not trying to defend anyone, just let me add that Camilla often looks lost or rude during appearances because she has no idea what to do. I believe that’s the direct result of her not giving a shit when she is prepared for the event. We are supposed to believe that an army of highly experienced professionals put these events together! Why don’t they tell her the choreography beforehand? Because she doesn’t give a shit, and it angers KC.
Yeah, Camilla always struck me as someone that doesn’t like doing these royal events. She is rude and just doesn’t care. At all. Kate is the same way.
I mean yes, she’s often rude because she doesn’t care. Like when she walked up the stairs to the plane in australia, and like when she went and sat back in the car in Kenya. Those are deliberate rude choices which indicate her lack of concern about the event. The difference here is that this was like 10 seconds, and she was in the midst of figuring out what to do before he snapped his fingers and pointed to the ground. An argument could be made that she should have known what to do beforehand, but that’s still incredibly rude and disrespectful from your husband.
she was probably in the bag by then. Day drinking is the only way she can cope with him. she got exactly what she wanted, and it’s exactly what she deserves.
I thought Charles seemed abrupt but not super rude or angry (its certainly no “wrap it up” moment like William had with Kate in Jordan) but Camilla definitely seemed lost. when she finished shaking hands, why would she not immediately follow Charles and the president (I think thats who it was?) She took a few steps and then stood in the center of the room looking lost. It was kind of weird. Of course she should walk over and stand next to charles. What else would she do?
I do think it was rude of Charles to walk off like that as she was still shaking hands – waiting an extra 30 seconds would have removed the potential for the awkward moment – but for a woman who has been doing these kinds of events for 20 years, it was weird to see her looking out of place. And Charles gestured to her several times, even the president (PM?) was gesturing to her.
I wonder if she’s suffering from periodic dementia because she seems to have these “spells”, and I don’t think it’s day-drinking, she saves that for the evenings, especially when she’s on royal tours. My mother had them towards the end of her life and would just look blank and fade away for a moment or two. If she is having these lost moments, both she and Chuck would have been informed by her doctors, and he could at least be a bit more understanding instead of just walking away then motioning her curtly to follow. It may also explain her dislike of royal travel. It becomes a bit too confusing and overwhelming. I’m not giving her a cookie, she’s still a mean old horse’s ass but there could be a medical/cognitive reason for this odd behaviour.
@jaded it almost seemed that way to me as well, that there was something more going on there. She looked lost, not just confused.
But if she’s having those spells then he should be aware and he should act accordingly.
I don’t think it was especially rude because royal events have to be run to a tight, strict schedule. Every step is almost choreographed. He is the King and seems to fret over such trivial things.
I was just about to say, perhaps Camilla has cognitive decline? She certainly does not look well at all. Worse than Charles.
Somehow we never saw this with Philip or QETQM or Queen Mary. All heavily photographed and filmed at events. Camilla’s been a Royal for twenty years. She should know the (dreaded word) protocol by now.
It should not be a surprise he publicly scolded Diana in a tour when she fainted.
Charles is the most easily peeved man on earth. Remember the inkwell situation? He has little temper tantrums all the time.
Yeah was gonna say. This is the man that loses it over a pen. His first gesture was motioning her where to go so that wasn’t too bad. But it was the last gesture of the upturned hand which kind of was like him asking her what is wrong with you. I wouldn’t someone to do that to me in public even if I was messing up. But I’m sure this’ll get blamed on Harry. He was only short-tempered bc Harry stole his nonexistent Italian thunder. But at the end of the day, Camilla has been kind of rude to others at events before so I’m not feeling that bad for her.
And some big ones where he becomes violent, like William.
He seemed only mildly irritated here, if that, much less so then with the two pen situations. It seemed more like he was trying to send a perfectly clear signal without being overly demonstrative that it was necessary. Didn’t seem angry. And the Italian was likewise signaling to his spouse to join him so it seems there was poor communication across the board.
I agree Meredith. They are on a strict time schedule for these visits. Everything has to work like clockwork. It also must be stressful with photographers and cameras everywhere.
Wasn’t she referred to as a Rottweiler? So his commanding her makes sense …
You made me snort laughter.
Yeah, Diana referred to her as “the Rottweiler”.
I agree and it looked like the other wife was waiting to join the men also. It just makes Charles look like a bigger jerk.
That’s what it looked like to me, too. She finished greeting folks in the receiving line, then turned to look for her husband, then wasn’t sure if it was the right time to join him — and her petty, man-boy toddler of a hubby harshed on her for it. I can’t decide if it would be a good thing or a bad thing if she were used to that kind of treatment.
The great love story is a farce. They live in separate dwellings and Charles is stuck in the cloying great love story his spinners created. He sacrificed his first marriage and is a bad father and grandfather.
I have nothing nice to say about this couple.. so happy Wednesday everyone 🌞
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You too! 🍕
Happy hump day!
Hahhaha. I understand KC in this situation. It must be annoying that after all these years she didn’t get any better at it. God, she must be so dumb, because part of the problem is that she doesn’t get the significance of the choreography, the protocol, the nuances and she doesn’t give a shit about her role. She acts like she is doing everyone a huge favor by attending. Remember in Australia she got bored when saying goodbye on the tarmac and she simply turned and left?? KC was still shaking hands and chatting. It looked awful and I’m sure KC knew about it. Well, this is exactly what he deserves.
Despite all this I think Camilla has the upper hand and there’s nothing he can do about it.
Remember at the Commonwealth Day when she totally ignored the Maori women singer-dancers who were undoubtedly freezing in the cold waiting for them to stop and acknowledge them.
Chuck did, but she stomped right ahead and ignored them. What a total idiot lacking social graces. That’s the Queen for you!
Huh. Well they both seem miserable together. After treating Diana as they did, I guess they deserve each other.
When Charles is in this mood, Camilla should just be glad she’s not a leaky pen.
Is he ever NOT in this mood?
I guess he sometimes he slips into faux-jovial beneficent colonial
“oh, you’re from Nigeria? Tell everyone in Africa I said hi.
Next!” mode
But mostly he comes across as cranky, impatient, put upon and demanding over the pettiest shit. Pens, the 5 seconds it takes C to get in position for a photo, etc
He does seem to have a very short fuse. He even lost his rag at his own coronation didn’t he.
And now there will be hundreds of articles about how rude he was for telling someone where to stand in a photo, right? And Meghan asked politely.
This.
Everything that’s visibly true about Charles and William — they’re both rude, entitled (literally), short-tempered and imperious — gets projected onto Meghan because she’s a biracial woman and therefore considered an easier target. It’s disgusting.
Even if Harry wasn’t in London, the British press would not have talked about this awkward moment because their job is to protect the King and Queen at all costs and to boost their image as much as possible. My question is did Camilla forget that she had to stand next to Charles or did nobody tell her what she had to do?
Or she simply forgot, not unusual in your late 70s. I suspect that many of us have got halfway up the stairs and then wondered what we were going upstairs for.
Oh, yeah. That’s been me ever since I turned 55.
It almost looked as if someone (and aide?) was speaking to her from the sidelines.
Will we ever find out what kind of dirty deal Chuck and Bill did with the British media to protect themselves? What did they trade for it? It kills me that you know hundreds of people know the truth, just like they know what happened to Kate in 2024, and yet they’re all silent as the grave.
Ben Franklin said “Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead”—so how are these deals and coverups kept so quiet? What is the omerta this mobbed up group can impose on an entire island? It’s not deference (that died during the Diana years, partly bc Charles was such a public POS)—is it money? Is it threats?
Cowzilla is looking more and more disoriented at each outing .
Cams was doddering around lost. I guess I haven’t seen video of her walking lately.
I mentioned that upthread. Wonder if she’s have some “seniors’ moments”?
The Rottweiler is so bad at this soft power diplomacy shit.
Chuck married the right woman for it but got jealous she was too good at it.
So he created all that drama during the 80s and 90s because he could not personally handle her fame and so he could eventually marry this bitch. Now, she shows how wholly incompetent she is on the international scene. Australia, Africa, Europe, North America.
She has no fucking clue and she is the “queen” Camilla Regina whatever.
Is this the best representative Britain can offer on the world stage?
Ummm…yes it seems.
The problem is the method that decides who the next Monarch will be.
She’s still only Queen Consort.
It doesn’t matter who Chuck is married to, he will always treat them like a servant. And in a way, that’s what Camilla is. She has to do what he says at all times and take his abuse with a smile. Oh well.
Chuck summons Cam. William chop-chopped Kate. Haz told Meghan to turn around during Trooping. I think these dudes have expectations I could never abide.
But Harry was polite about it, and he’s not one of the pompous royal “dudes” who snap at everyone because they’re such self-important gasbags they think they can treat their own family like servants.
Yeah and it was also an example of harry looking out for her. He’s aware of how the tabloids would spin it. How dare Meghan be turned around during our precious trooping.
I remember that trooping incident differently— he seemed deeply irritated with her that day and was not polite. As happens under stress in even the happiest of couples. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t adore her, so let’s not try to rewrite what was plain to see.
@Meredith — I just watched the video and he was definitely not “deeply irritated” with her, he just quietly asked her to turn around. That is what’s plain to see.
I remember the tabloids spinning it that Harry was annoyed with her when he clearly wasn’t.
I agree with Meredith and Meghan looked upset. It was probably a simple case of Harry helping Meghan understand “the protocol”.
Wow there are a few photos here that don’t appear to be photoshopped, highlighting how red Charles really is. He always looks so inflamed and has for many years.
Charles, ever the gentleman 🙄. It is obvious where Will picked up how to treat his wife.
Living up to the tag message I am a c**t a designer sewed into Charles garment years ago.
That was Alexander McQueen? Good for him 👏.
Ha! I never heard that, but I love it!🤭
Did not know this. But Katie wears McQueen coat dresses all the time, they’re her uniform. Wonder how Charles feels about that.
Wonder what’s sewn insider her seams?🤭
I don’t see anything really untoward happening here? Looks like Cams and the other woman were hanging back to let the two men have a photo opp together, and then both of the men gestured for them to come stand with them, and then the women went and stood there.
Agreed
Agreed 2.
It’s HOW they gestured that’s the problem. Charles did that whole gritted teeth thing, with furrowed brow & a ‘stand here!’ pointed finger.
Well we can all see where William gets it from.
Then again C&K are doormats who accept this.
Harry really is his mothers son.
They’re hardly doormats; that’s certainly not how Camilla got where she is, and we have Kate on record showing her true nature, haranguing Will and winding him up over a minor issue a few years back. But they both have prima donnas for husbands, and the path of least resistance when out in public with them is to just go with the flow and get it over with. After all, it’s not like either Camilla or Kate have any interest in the jobs they’re supposed to be doing to want to prolong any visits – unless there’s a chance for photo ops for Kate, and alcohol is involved for Camilla.
Where have we seen both of their unmannered behaviour before?
Charles thought he was in one of his own palaces.
And Camilla forgot to take her meds.
Meh. My father is crabby and my husband is crabby too. I would have walked over even slower. Maybe shaken a few more hands.
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I always wonder why she has to travel out of the country for spa days & health retreats, on the public dime. Imagine the uproar if that had been Meghan on these “extravagant” trips? Instead Meghan had to pay for her own royal wardrobe as a senior royal and got treated like crap. When you look back you can see that Meghan never put a foot wrong as a Royal, and a new, inexperienced one at that. The only thing they could find to complain about were emails sent at 5am (And read at 9am most likely) because she was raring to get to work! She accomplished so much in her short time as a royal that it made others look bad.
If they were getting disturbed by e mails at 5 am that is their fault for not closing their computers down or failing to put their phones into its do not disturb mode before going to bed.
Meghan gets that uproar anyway. No matter what she does and how many of HER OWN DOLLARS she spends.
DeltaJuliet, you make me chuckle. Whoops, maybe an unfortunate word choice considering. Two things, Charles and the royals have never seemed to get that treating others badly (and especially Meghan and Harry) reflects badly on them. And I guess they don’t care. As I used to hear when I would go to Al-Anon, why would anyone change when there are no consequences. Also, in reading through the comments, I was looking to see if anyone else was wondering if Camilla was looking more and more lost or befuddled, as in pre-dementia. It wasn’t until I began seeking out and reading comments pro-Sussex that I heard the expression “Karma has everyone’s address”. James Cain wrote a whole book about it when he wrote “The Postman Always Rings Twice”. Which sounds like I wish them ill. I really don’t, and I can say that I wouldn’t wish dementia on anyone. It breaks my heart. And as they get older, I am cognizant that they will one day be held accountable. As will I. I’ve just come to believe that not everything is reconciled in this life.
Cam’s life of heavy smoking likely caused vascular dementia along with the damage to her heart & lungs.
I can imagine a short video of Charles’ public showings of temper & irritation with those around him & asking, Who’s the Bully?
You are right, Therese. Why should Charles (or Andrew) change when there are no consequences? A major argument against royalty is how it deprives the kids of important interpersonal feedback.
What do Italians call Camilla? The words brutta and goomah come to mind.
Why was she so confused? She does this every day…
Wasn’t that pretty much what William did to Catherine at the wedding (in Jordan?) when she spoke with the bride in the reception line? Hand gesture hurrying her along.
I do have a little grace for Charles, I imagine he feels lousy 100% of the time from weekly cancer treatments. My goodness, Camilla looked like she didn’t even know where she was for a moment.
I think Charles’s gesture was imperious towards another human being, and a gesture you could use to bring a dog to heel. I think Camilla looked a little disoriented, but she seemed to be looking back at the Italian First Lady, because both men must have left together to prepare themselves for the photo-op. Charles doesn’t look diplomatic or well-mannered at all.
Saw the video twice and she didn’t look disoriented, she looked unsure if she should interrupt their photo op. It was only after he motioned to her to join them that she looked back to see if the Italian First Lady was going also. Nothing confusing here imo.
Looks like she was trying to get a few more pictures in.
It also looks like the prime minister was ape’ing charle# motioning to Camilla as oppose to him motioning to his wife to come over. lol.
So much glam and charisma!!! 🤭
He’s a spoilt, impatient bully and she’s a gaslighting, wind-up-merchant. May they both have very long lives & 30 more years of marriage/duty to share together.
Even if the UK press does cover it, his nasty public outburst will just be minimized as that age-old “Windsor temper:” “His grandfather had it, his father [not a Windsor] had it, Charles and William both have it, it’s just their oh-so-superior royal genes, good thing they have compliant wives who will calm and manage them like they are toddlers!”
The excuses made for decades for this pack of spoiled, entitled, childish men who take their unfinished emotional business out on their staffs and their families make me ill.
Agree they look over it all. The want to wander their own estate and rake in poor peoples money and have prestige. Diplomacy and travel is a younger persons game. Queen e should’ve given this to Charles decades ago.problem is then she woukd be worried how he would treat her and lord it over her after his problematic childhood. She was right to worry. Now Charles is too old to even enjoy this pompery anymore. And he can’t give it to William now for same reason, afraid what william would do to him. Maybe he should anyway, just to ease the next one in. Or abolish it himself. And everyone can earn their own way and still have charities and diplomatic presence like H and M.
That was my take. It wasn’t too bad. But she was so over it she couldn’t bother to think about where she was supposed to go. And he was so over it he just wanted to gif outta there and she was holding that up.
’tis better to be broke than to mother and baby a full grown man who will publically treat you like this. This kind of behavior makes my skin crawl. Seeing his father behavior like this/modeling Charles’s behavior towards women/people in general is most of Willy’s issue. Keener really is a version of Camilla and the Middleton’s used similar tactics to snag Willy. It would be interesting to see if Camilla/Keener think the sacrifices were worth it.
William does not want to be eased in. That would mean more work and what about school runs