In early 2024, we had no idea what was happening with the Princess of Wales’s health. All they said in January was that she had “planned” abdominal surgery and that was it. There were so many odd reports and weird “sightings” and then Kensington Palace got caught faking a photo for Mother’s Day. I’m not trying to relitigate the whole messy ordeal! My point was that we were told, in that hectic newscycle, that Kate would likely come outside for Easter Sunday. That was changed when Kate announced that she had cancer, and the Waleses canceled on King Charles for the annual Easter Sunday church-walk at Windsor Castle. That was last year. Certainly William and Kate would be able to pry themselves away from their vacation schedule long enough to walk to church with the rest of the Windsor clan this year, now that Kate has made big public announcements about being “cancer-free” and “in remission”? Not so much. The Waleses canceled on the king.
There won’t be an Easter outing with the royal family for Kate Middleton, Prince William, Prince George, Princess Charlotte and Prince Louis this year.
Although King Charles, Queen Camilla and other members of the royal family are set to attend the Easter Matins Service at Windsor Castle on Sunday, April 20, the Prince and Princess of Wales won’t be among them. Instead, Prince William and Princess Kate will spend the weekend with their children at their country home in Norfolk.
Although Kate and William were regulars at the gathering throughout the years, they skipped last year’s outing amid Princess Kate’s cancer news, which was announced just weeks before, and spent the holiday privately. In January, the Princess of Wales announced her cancer was in remission.
Prince William, 42, and Princess Kate, 43, last attended Easter with the royal family in 2023, when Prince Louis, now 6, joined them for the first time. (Prince George, 11, and Princess Charlotte, 9, made their royal Easter debut the previous year together.)
I understand how a family with younger kids would want to simply enjoy a kid-friendly holiday like Easter at home. Here in America, there are Easter egg hunts and Easter bunnies and lots of candy and goodies. I have no idea what the British traditions are, but given William and Kate’s ass-aches over the Sussexes refusing to give them Easter gifts, I would assume that there are some specific traditions. But again, William is the heir – he will one day be the head of the Church of England. When Charles was Prince of Wales, he never missed Easter! He always attended church with the family. It speaks volumes that William and Kate can’t be bothered to put in these kinds of appearances for major Christian holidays.
Also: Us Weekly ran a story about William & Kate skipping Easter with the Windsors, and a “source” told the magazine: “This is a big deal. It’s royal tradition for the family to attend this together. Everyone understood the family not attending last year when Kate was sick but there’s been a lot of raised eyebrows at the palace about William’s decision to skip again this year. It feels like a deliberate move and even a snub.” Well well.
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Seems as if they are looking to do away with the tradition. I bet that will be one of the things that will go under King Will. Wonder if he will do away with church at Christmas also.
I think he’ll want to do away with anything that requires him to actually turn up.
He’ll zoom in for the services when he’s king.
Cause he’ll burst into flames if he enters a church??!! j.k., kinda. I don’t know how any of those people enter a church without immense shame and maybe a few flames.
LOL @Josephine. Spot on. We know Kate’s in church face. Yikes!
He can’t completely do away with church at Christmas because Katy’s carols thing takes place at Westminster and we couldn’t possibly live without that, could we. But they may stop that walk to chapel—William clearly hated doing the walk last Christmas and waiting for Kate and her wiglet to catch up with him.
Yeah. They would likely reduce it to just the carol service unless she has lost interest in it by then.
But they usually schedule the Carole service right before the Christmas vacation as opposed to during it. So it’s safe.
Kindly fund our numerous mansions whilst we relax. Sorry Britan!
They called it William’s decision! Daaang.
Let’s see how long that lasts before it’s all about a very middle class grounded Middleton holiday to keep the family together in middle class traditions.
As opposed to walking to church with a man who looks like this is his last Easter.
Yes. Charles is horrible. But what about that stiff upper lip nothing gets in the way of service rot we have been spoon fed for decades?
It was all a lie, @Friendly Crow. 😐
@Friendly Crow … William has proclaimed to any rota reporter willing to print it that he isn’t very religious (which, for me, gives new meaning to his apparent friendship with Tom Cruise). I’ve read this sentiment at least three times in the British media over the past two years. Yet nary a peep out of the British public, especially considering the British Monarch is the Head of the Church of England.
Real question. What is wrong with William?
The idea that he needed Harry by his side and Harry’s constant support for his entire life and rule was introduced to the public early and reinforced nearly non stop. He’s to be the KING. Yet he can’t even manage to grow a beard that doesn’t make him look filthy. Color it ffs! Anyway.
William is incapable of strategic thinking. Or if he is capable -considering the machinations required for some of the attacks on the Sussexes – he seems entirely ruled by his anger, his wants, his whims without any understanding that if he enjoys the benefits of his lifestyle, he needs to be a public consistent steady presence.
He can be an absolute terror behind the scenes – we all know he is – but not having the foresight to work to attain public goodwill through things that benefit the public while relying on that same public for his lifestyle is insanity. It’s unfathomable. Yes, he was raised to be beyond entitled. He’s a narcissist. But. He saw how it’s been done for centuries. It’s not as though the playbook isn’t right there in his family history and modeled in different ways by his mother, father, grandfather and grandmother.
He could hire someone to simply make “improvements” to his tenant homes and document the process about using old building repair strategies that combine both time tested old technology and new technology to …., wait for it ….. make the buildings more energy efficient, sustainable and ready to continue onwards for another three hundred years.
Highlight British carpenters and builders who use ancient methods passed down through the centuries and how they are efficient and how British building techniques are impressive. Tie it into ending homelessness and that earth shot thing. THIS IS NOT HARD. He doesn’t even have to be there for it. A couple of interviews. Meeting with the people who’s homes were vastly improved – which would also show up his father who did squat for his tenants – and reap the goodwill that comes from pretending to care about not being a slum lord.
Instead. He solely relies on hatred for his brother flagrantly stoked in the media to falsely create positive sentiment towards himself in the public.
That’s not a forever plan. In fact it was never a plan.
It’s like he has no sense of self-preservation or maybe he’s incredibly depressed – like an existential “what’s the point?”
I could believe that he’s incredibly depressed deep down. I wish he wasn’t. Genuinely I wish he was happier bc a discontent and angry William is a dangerous one. His unhappiness has caused him to harm his brother and his brother’s family. And he can’t take that back. He could get therapy and be better but unfortunately most of us aren’t holding our breath for that. Some existential context that there are people out there suffering far more than him would also be helpful.
@Friendly Crow, I have no answers but just wanted to say I loved your comment. You nailed it, really covered all of William’s (many) issues, and made such good points/suggestions.
And I agree with @Eurydice and @Jais that he’s most likely depressed, but refuses to get any help. He absolutely seems like the type of man who thinks therapy is only for the “weak.”
I also think Jais is right that an angry William is a dangerous one.
I have no idea what’s going on with these two, but I hope the press gets fed up with their BS and soon.
He could guarantee to feed x% of the profit from the rentals back into improvements for the next 10 years. As you say get local tradies to do the work, and even do a documentary on how to preserve the older buildings in a way that improves them for 21st century living. Shall we apply for a job? Your ideas I can help make them happen.
What is wrong with these people is a great question? Everything is my answer.
“He can be an absolute terror behind the scenes – we all know he is – but not having the foresight to work to attain public goodwill through things that benefit the public while relying on that same public for his lifestyle is insanity. It’s unfathomable.” Not only insanity or unfathomable. Unsavory.
“Yes, he was raised to be beyond entitled. He’s a narcissist. But. He saw how it’s been done for centuries. It’s not as though the playbook isn’t right there in his family history and modeled in different ways by his mother, father, grandfather and grandmother.”.
Excellent comment. It all comes back to how Harry was suppose to be William’s scapegoat and worker bee with the “benefit” of negative headlines to cover for Will. Harry opted out-rightly so-to protect HIS family that he loves and realized his own worth outside of the bullf*ckery of the BRF.
@somebody – In answer to your comment above, yesterday King Charles and Queen Camilla attended the Maundy Thursday church service in Durham Cathedral. This is an annual symbolic tradition where the monarch presents the Maundy recipients with two purses: one red and one white, each containing “Maundy Money.” Maundy Thursday, also known as Holy Thursday, is the fifth day of Holy Week and one of the most important events leading up to Easter Sunday. It commemorates the Maundy and Last Supper of Jesus Christ with the Apostles. I thought to myself, is this going to continue when William takes the throne? Somehow, I doubt it given his complete lack of interest in anything to do with the Anglican Church.
Willam’s not washing anyone’s feet, that’s for sure.
William has ‘quiet quit’. He clearly thinks: if Harry doesn’t have to do all this boring shit for the rest of his life then neither do I.
That’s a good way to put it, Jojo. Those two have been quiet quitting since they got married. They like that they can hide behind the Sussexes so when questions come up about their behavior, they can get the BP to post a nothing burger story about how Willie is going to take away the titles from the Sussexes. It wouldn’t have mattered if the Sussexes stayed. This is what the Wales’ were going to do anyway. The worst part is that they’re gladly taking all of the perks without putting in the work. If I were a British citizen, I’d toss them out.
“If Harry doesn’t have to …” That’s what I was thinking as well. I really think it’s as simple as that. The idea that this, or anything else, is a responsibility that comes with his position is a foreign concept for Will. He gets his money either way.
I think Peg and Can’t did the happy family photo shoot on their last vacation and that was enough for Peg. These two don’t live together and Peg wants to do his own thing. He doesn’t seem to care for being a family with his own father because Peg isn’t the family man he likes to portray himself as.
I actually can’t blame him for not wanting to play happy family with his father. Charles has the relationships with his sons that he deserves, and they are 100% down to him and his decades long behaviour.
Interesting implications for the crown here though.
The Easter service is bigger than Charles’ relationship with William. This is one of the main duties of the royal family, particularly Charles as king, William as the heir, and Kate as a future queen. It’s absurd that the Wales can go to football matches and ski in France but can’t show up for the few duties they actually have. W&K could easily helicopter to Norfolk after the services and enjoy some more vacation time.
It’s not about playing happy family with his father. it’s about showing up as the future king of england and head of the church.
William is as much to blame for the dysfunction as Charles at this point. He’s 43 and he’s not the one who got his housing removed and security removed because of who he married. There is a thing called duty and showing your face to Easter service is a minor thing after weeks of holidays.
The Queen was respected because she was seen to be consistent in showing up to these things. Charles has followed her in that sense. If William cannot be bothered to attend the service for the most important day in Christianity without any legitimate excuse, it is just another sign of how little he will do any of the expected responsibilities of the head of the Church of England and head of state.
I do think William vacillates between wanting the power and prestige of being King and also wanting to bring the whole things down.
He’s been consistent about not wanting and not liking it.
I mean – the monarch is head of the Church of England. William doesn’t have to believe in any of it, but as he avidly accepts all the benefits of his position he should show up and do the damn job.
I don’t think William wants to bring it all down. He wants it ALL, and he wants it all run his way. All the power, all the control, the autocratic ability to shut down a free press, the power to endanger the lives of his brother’s family deliberately.
He wants the monarchy to continue – with him in the role of absolute monarch not one bound by nice traditions and pretending to ‘serve’. William is more along the lines of a Murderous Bin Salaman type monarch, that’s his desired style.
I agree. Given how little parenting H & W received from Charles after their mother died, is it surprising that he feels disconnected to these traditions? Both of them are attempting to be better, more present fathers than Charles was. Probably watching their own children grow brings back a lot of painful memories. If I was W, I wouldn’t want to spend time with him and the Rottweiler either. Especially since she was the major cause of their father’s absences.
Maybe this all meant they didn’t get all this religious indoctrination that their father and grandmother had?
Can’t believe I’m sort of defending Baldimort, but here we are.
William a ‘present’ father? LOL did you see the pics from the ski holiday with him ignoring the kids to play around on his phone?
William has no problem with Camilla. He has no problem with their affair and obviously no problem being unfaithful himself. He accepted Anmer Hall as his ‘family home’, the place where Charles and Camilla had their ongoing affair for years. And he remains close with the Van Cutsems, the family that rented Anmer Hall and enabled the C&C affair.
@Shazbot, I totally agree with “I do think William vacillates between wanting the power and prestige of being King and also wanting to bring the whole things down.” And it must be exhausting and depressing to live that way, constantly having these two warring ideas in your head.
@kaaaaz: I really dislike Camilla, but I think even without her Charles would have been an absentee father. As the Queen said, Charles does what Charles want. He thought reading van der Post and painting a good thing to do on the honeymoon. Going to the opera while William was operated on. Neither Camilla nor Diana prevented that. His children never came first or second or third. That would have been the same if he never met Camilla.
Hm, aren’t all their cousins there? So shouldn’t that be fun? Nothing against searching Easter eggs after church?
The problem lies between the fab four. Do they ever meet? And when the press said Charles and Harry are not speaking – we’re Charles and William meant?
And isn’t cousin in law Mike like a brother to huevo
Exactly. One of the major stories that they don’t touch is that William seems to be on the outs with everybody: His father, his stepmother, his brother, his sister-in-law, his wife, the Yorks. The list goes on and on. I personally find this news jaw-dropping–Will and Kate have been spotted on vacation and at soccer matches, but haven’t so much as cut a ribbon or shaken a hand in weeks. How much family time do they need??
You’ve hit the nail on the head, suebarbri33, totally. It’s my belief that this is the real reason W and family won’t be showing up for Easter.
W can’t face them en-masse as they all know the extent of his appalling behaviour. All of it.
“W can’t face them en-masse as they all know the extent of his appalling behaviour. All of it.”
If this is true, it’s as likely as any other explanation. I wonder if there are substance abuse issues. That explains not wanting to be places at set times, esp. early morning. It also accounts for missing events that interfere with drinking times. Of course, it clarifies the reason behind the tantrums and incandescent rages over insignificant things.
That’s really the problem: William never sees his father. The king. The man still undergoing treatment for cancer.
I’d love to know what’s really going on here. Because missing this is a pretty big deal for the royals. (And there’s still plenty of time over the 4-day weekend for the fun stuff too if that’s what they want).
Or maybe it’s another holiday? The poor things have only had 3 holidays so far this year so they must really need a break.
Missing an annual church/holiday tradition would be a big deal for ANY family, especially those with older, sick relatives. It’s just cold if they don’t plan to bring the kids to visit with the family. I’m sure a day trip to Windsor (where they have a home!) shouldn’t take away from their “perfect” Easter weekend?
William doesn’t do religion, I wonder what he will do when he becomes King and head of the church of the church of England.
They are probably still on vacation abroad and Wil hates to break his vacations. He has his own money now and he’ll do as he please.
When do the kids have to be back for school? If it’s not for another week then yeah that’s a real possibility.
The kids go back Thursday, so you would think the Waleses would try to be back by easter so the kids have a few days to adjust.
Kate was spotted taking a helicopter from KP to Norfolk on Tuesday afternoon. Point de vue has a video on IG.
She was alone, but it was assumed the kids were in Norfolk.
Yeah that’s what I was wondering. Technically they could return Monday or Tuesday and give them a day or two of downtime. But why not just come back in time for the easter service? So maybe they are in Norfolk. Or at least Kate and the kids are. It’s a bad look. After a year of bad health for Kate and the king, they can’t come together for an Easter walk to church…
@Nic, the children could be at Norfolk but they could easily be with their father somewhere else…I have a feeling that William was in France just before the football game and in time for the photo of a happy family…these two can barely tolerate each other…
I wonder if that is part of this – the kids are staying with one parent for the holiday. William with the kids, kate with her parents? Or kate with the kids and her parents, William at Sandringham alone?
“The kids could be with William someplace else”
By kids you mean, George? Who is currently being forced to read football forums and trying not to flinch when his father reads a comment he disagrees with and starts screaming at his phone or tablet?
They have been off for several weeks. Their children’s school break is a month long. They don’t go back until this upcoming Thursday the 24th. So they have had plenty, plenty of time.
A whole month?? Really?? That’s a long time for kids to be off school.
@Nic919
Kate better watch out and not fly a helicopter alone, because like Charles, William would rather be a widower than a divorcee.
Once Charles divorced Diana he lost out on being widower. The spencers were in charge and diana s resting place was althorp. Since Williams relatives or some got to divorce and remarry . William could still be a divorced single dad.
The Church considered Charles a widower. The divorce was a legal issue but the Church didn’t recognize divorce at the time.
I agree to disagree. Diana would automatically kept her h r h and been given a royal funeral had she legally been Mrs Charles at the time of her death. Charles was bound and determined to promote Camilla and had to cancel their first joint charity appearance as a couple when his ex died.
What about their missing out on being with their cousins. I thought that was if paramount importance to the wails.
Agree. The kids seem to get along with the cousins so it’s not fair to them. They can still have a family Easter and go to church for an hour. Many families do it.
I suppose Carole will be orchestrating the perfect Easter dinner and activities with James’ and Pippa’s kids, so there won’t be a lack of cousins to look for eggs. Those are younger cousins, but most are old enough to hunt eggs at least although they won’t be BFFs for George or Charlotte. Strange, though, that in Catherine’s and Carole’s minds, the Middletons are more important than William’s father on what might be his last Easter.
The continuing disrespect that William has and shows for his father, the King, is truly astounding. William really is the son his father deserves.
Charles chose William over harry and watched all the nastiness of William towards harry and meghan.
Yup and now he’s stuck with an heir who won’t work and couldn’t even bother to learn 3 lines at his coronation. Haha.
He got what he wanted, all of the attention will be on him. Chuck should never have had children, he clearly doesn’t care about any of his offspring.
I don’t think Charles wanted children. He had to have them, though.
So the king is going to have a family church visit without either of his sons, DILs or his five grandkids. Lol Betty would NEVER. I kinda love this for him. I’m guessing the Wales will release a glossy Easter video on their instagram and call it a day.
Right? Say what you want about Liz, but she kept these jokers in line. She knew they needed to be seen to be believed. But now, Will and Kate are neither seen nor believed. It’s wild. Just blurry ski trip pictures and photoshop from now on, I suppose. Incredible.
And I think we’re seeing how much she and philip DID keep william in line even somewhat. Yes still lazy and entitled, but i feel like he worked a bit more and wasnt so flagrant with his vacations, dad dancing aside. and when he was caught skipping thing, he was brought back in line and didn’t skip again (ie commonwealth service, christmas day).
I fell that when Elizabeth was in full strength, she would have squashed the Middletons like a bug.
ITA with you all — things started going downhill when Philip passed, but once Liz went, everything just started going *completely* off the rails. This family is now a hot mess.
@Sue, I lol’d at “Say what you want about Liz, but she kept these jokers in line.” Truth.
And @Tina, if they do yet another end run around the ROTA and self-publish another video, maybe (big maybe) that will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. Because I’m sure they were all counting on front-page photos of the Wales family walking to church on Easter. They are costing the press SO much money, it’s got to reach a boiling point eventually. (I hope.)
A glossy Easter video with strawberries and nature and making desserts…
With wild mushrooms. Don’t forget Lazy’s new hobby!
And honey from their bees and homemade jam from their simple garden 🙄
Ha. Yes, can’t forget the mushrooms the honey and the jam. It’s coming ya’ll. If not on easter then at some point. They can’t help themselves.
Unpopular opinion here because I do think William is lazy and spiteful and this is completely in his wheelhouse. But I also recognize that they steal the limelight wherever they go and Chucky and the horse are overlooked. I can totally see Charles telling them they can’t go and then BP leaking how awful it is the heir is not going.
Charles wants to play happy families. I think the wails are refusing to go. Charles would also want them their to show how they are happier without harry and meghan.
@ecsmom, I think, this makes Charles look weak as the King and the “leader” of the family. No way he asked W&K not to come. This is a family event.
I don’t believe the lies about Charles not wanting W&K to work. Those were lies fed to Harry by William – and that Harry believed. We’re supposed to think ‘pa’ didn’t want W&K working, that he was forbidding William from doing anything? While Harry was able to found two massive charities and was being flown all over the work because W&K wouldn’t get off their asses to work.
If Charles hadn’t wanted any attention on anyone but himself? He would have benched the most popular member of the family – Harry – before W&K even married.
IMO Charles has wanted W&K working 500 engagements each every year from the start of their marriage. If they had showed up and worked bread and butter engagements from the start, no one would pay attention to them. They’d be part of the regular royal furniture. It has only been the rarity of W&K show up for 100 hours of work a year for the last 10 years that makes it seem like people are interested in them.
I’d imagine Charles just didn’t want Kate working or swinging a racket on his important days. If people would just adhere to Charles’ calendar…lol. Kate pretty much blew that up at the Chelsea flower showdown/hoe-down.
@Alteya, completely agree with this: “It has only been the rarity of W&K show up for 100 hours of work a year for the last 10 years that makes it seem like people are interested in them.”
The ONE THING W&K have actually worked diligently on (and have been successful at) is slowly, over the years, lowering expectations— Kate all but admitted it the year she skipped the St. Patrick’s day event, flat-out saying (as she broke a hundred+ years tradition) that she didn’t want people to “get used to” her being there every year and expect it. For a family that’s all about tradition, it’s certainly a bold strategy, but Liz, Charles, and the UK press have allowed them to get away with it for almost 15 years now.
Not only are they lazyAF, but I think they purposefully wanted to be seen infrequently so that when they actually did do something, they’d be guaranteed coverage and it would be an “event.” They want to be a highly sought after novelty, the opposite of Anne and Charles. They also have the audacity to make most of their (rare) engagements things like sporting events and movie premieres.
I have to hope that this will eventually blow up in their faces, but with the press covering for them so thoroughly, who knows. William seems to have completely checked out the *minute* he started getting that Duchy money. So far there haven’t been any consequences for their behavior, so I imagine they don’t see any reason to do anything differently. In fact, if anything, I think we’ll actually start seeing them less and less frequently (which seems impossible, but they’ll pull it off). They played the long game and so far, they’re winning.
Looking forward to Meghan’s Easter video 😂
As for Chuck, he has the Rottweiler’s grandkids so he can play with them.
Sounds like Chuck might be estranged from WanK also..
I’m going to posit a theory because I’m at a loss at how W has become such a colossal let down and gets worse each year
I think he has huge resentment for the late queen for not taking away all the Sussex titles, HRH appellation and Prince and Princess
That has manifested into a rage boil against Chuck who has also not done anything
And now W has said a very obvious F U and is opting out of princing until Pa is 6 feet under and he is King and then he’s going to go nuclear
Divorce K. Strip Sussexes of everything. Fvck up his own kids
I dunno. I just have this *weird* feeling
Please feel free to tell me I’ve lost the plot. It’s all just so strange. QE would never have let W do this. Is Charles even in charge? Or is it Camilla that is the real boss
Sounds plausible to me.. I’ve seen far too many overprivlaged middle aged men implode their lives to ever question it especially when it is Peg. Never say never..
Well, estranged from William, at any rate. I am pretty sure that Kate has been as much of a nonentity in Charles’s life as she has been in her own life.
🤭😅😂🤣 nonentity is a great way to describe her.
Workshy Willy and Duchess Doolittle strike again
But a future heas of church(for now) should really attend the church on special occasions like Easter
Willie is quietly quitting his future role and he hopes people don’t notice him.
I hope Parliament fulfills its role and offers a referendum to sack him.
Unless W&K have planned Easter festivities for the kids, how is spending the weekend at Norfolk different from any other weekend?
In any case, W&K are going to be King and Queen any minute now. It’s time they stepped up.
I’m sure that Carole has organized the ultimate Easter egg hunt for her Royal grandchildren at Amner. She might even be living there!
Well, won’t that be fun – just the 3 of them looking for Easter eggs. Or maybe all the Middletons will be there.
James would want to be there. He’s been in the media lately
You’re probably right that it’s a Middleton festive Easter with all the trimmings, and why not? Maybe William will check out entirely… what’s Rose up to this weekend? 👀
More likely in Berkshire, given that’s where all three of Carole’s overgrown adolescent useless adult children live.
@Alteya, at least Pippa actually got a degree in early childhood development, as opposed to her sister’s nonsense pie charts and photo ops!
I realize that this is not the narrative usually attached to this issue and it’s usually framed in the broader issue of W&K’s laziness. BUT. I would actually really find it fascinating and important if Will would come out as an atheist and that there could be a real conversation around the CoE and the monarchy’s role within it from a religious perspective. I think an adult conversation about the appropriateness of suggesting that the British monarch is ordained by God as an actual active thing in the 21st century (instead of an interesting historical fact) is sorely needed. I fully support William not wanting the role (if that is the case) and also support generally a conversation around being atheist/deist/humanist/etc as completely valid belief systems.
That would be a fascinating conversation. It’s not just about belief in God, but that the CoE is the state religion and woven into the government structure.
Exactly! I’m not British and I’m Jewish so this is a topic I find fascinating, but which I recognize I don’t have any personal connection to the meanings of culture, identity, history and tradition that British people attach to this conversation. I do personally think from a purely Christian perspective, that the CoE is quite…odd, tbh, in terms of its theology around the monarch specifically. Frankly it’s borderline cultish and I’ve always found it interesting how it sits within the broader Christian faith. I think really downplaying the actual religious beliefs about the monarch and emphasizing the ‘head of the Church’ and state function make it less controversial. But, if you look at it just from a religious belief system, it’s extremely strange!
ETA: And I would find it refreshing and appropriate for a modern day monarch to state that they do not believe that they, purely by their role as monarch, have a particular insight into God or are hand selected by God and that they certainly don’t expect other people to believe that.
They’re getting a bit of it today because Charles talked about Judaism and Islam during the Maundy service and there’s a firestorm of criticism given that the Easter season, especially the last few days of it, are the holiest in the Christian religion. What may be fine for Joe Shmo doesn’t go so well with the HOTC.
I truly don’t think William is a deep enough thinker to do something like that.
That very well may be, but there have been for years rumblings about William not wanting to be the head of the CoE and that he is not comfortable with the religious aspects of being monarch and wants to significantly reduce that role or opt out completely. It’s never been addressed directly and he hasn’t provided any insight into why he feels this way. I do think it’s very possible that he is not religious and doesn’t want to pretend, which I think, regardless of what i think otherwise of him, is a very fair position to take and one I would support.
I would have thought the issue is more that it’s an important time as someone noted above where the press and the public get to see the royals in the wild. That sort of thing matters. They have this exalted position because they’re supported. If William doesn’t care, maybe the public won’t either. After all, it’s pretty easy to sit in church 2 or 3x a year for and hour or so, even if you’re not religious. The commonwealth service is a church service in pretty sure and he’s managed to turn up for that. He just doesn’t want any of the job. None of it.
@LadyE – not being religious doesn’t mean not having faith. Even people of faith can be uncomfortable with the idea of a state religion or that God anointed the monarchy. And I don’t know that William has thought past his discomfort to make any determination about his faith. Charles has gotten around the dilemma by including other religions in his speeches and ceremonies.
I don’t think Will can do anything about something that’s been part of the constitution for 500 years and part of every royal ritual. It’s not just about Easter, will he refuse to attend his own coronation? And he hardly has the energy to deal with his tenants’ mold issues, let alone take on the CoE. He’ll probably try his usual passive-aggressive opting out and see how that goes.
As an atheist I really hope someone more intelligent becomes a spokesperson. Someone that lacks any curiosity shouldn’t get the conversation going. At least contemplate whether there is a God/Goddess and whether organized religion is doing them justice and then coming to the conclusion you don’t believe (but will if presented convincing evidence). He just comes across as religion is hard, I don’t want to do it.
“Religion is hard” feels like exactly the amount of energy William has spent thinking about religion. Like everything else, he’s lucky he’s alive now. He would have been picked off by a far more cunning relative in past generations. He is so incurious about everything, I really don’t know how it hasn’t been fatal. Like he accidentally bumbles off a mountain, or something.
“Religion is hard” – am I the only one reminded of that infamous mathphobic talking Barbie doll?!
Funny, I was thinking something similar. I guess it would be a problem if Will let it be known he’s an atheist, but it just seems obvious.
He is supposed to have said, ” I don’t do religion” he must be agnostic at the very least, I suppose he was brought up in the Christian religion, no idea about Diana but I suspect that Charles is a believer, and I am sure that the late Queen did.
That would be an interesting and important convo – but I don’t think TOB is intellectually robust enough to have it. I doubt he considers himself atheist or agnostic – it’s more like he’s just a sullen teenager who doesn’t want to go to church and nobody can make him.
I’d be interested to see if the British monarchy could even be decoupled from the COE. My sense is that if you tried to remove the “monarch was chosen by God and has the moral supremacy to be head of the church”, the whole thing would start to crumble.
@Jay, I don’t think William is intellectually robust enough to tie his own shoes
Lorelei–I had to comment here, which I do about twice a year: “…intellectually robust enough to tie his own shoes”–that made me LOL, honestly it did. And I startled the heck out of Mr. Patsy, who is here beside me reading, but it was so funny I couldn’t help it! My hat’s off to you, or would be if I wore one.
Head of CoE is part of the job. If he doesn’t want that part of the job, he doesn’t get the job. Bill should immediately renounce his role, remove himself and his children from the line of succession, refuse all royal perks and funds. Walk away, earn his own living, pay his own security.
Before Henry VIII, being head of the church was not part of the job description. he started the CoE so he could divorce one of his wives. Prior to that there was a division between the church and royalty, though they were closely aligned.
They ended up skipping the year after Charlotte was born because William went to Jecca’s wedding and kate could not be bothered going herself alone with the kids.
I think Kate doesn’t want to attend royal events without William because she gets her rank from him. Without him present her seating will be different and she will have to curtsey to everyone.
She once did a church event where William wasn’t present but Harry and the Duke of Gloucester was present, and she was ranked after Gloucester!
^This. And she wasn’t ‘ranked’ at all at that event. She was seated below Harry and Gloucester, but technically she had no rank at all. If William isn’t present, she has no royal rank.
Oh, my, that is interesting! That is totally it; without William, she’s just your average Joe. Or Jane.
Awwww, poor Kate, knocked down in status by several pegs. I think we’d all skip out on Easter services if we faced such horrors, no?
I could give her a pass on missing that year – she had recently given birth, had another young one at home, and it’s not like she is comfortable with the Windsors. Plus, I think her going alone would have brought more attention to the fact that William had jetted off to another continent and left her at home…
With three nannies, and all the cooks and housekeepers, it isn’t like Kate does any of the hands on work of parenting. Even from the start they had a night nanny plus two day nannies for one baby.
I think Nic919 isn’t taking about the spring Char was born. She’s referencing the year after, when William went to Kenya for Jecca’s wedding reception (legal wedding was held the previous fall in London). William chose to skip Charlotte’s first Easter. When criticized for it, they hastily added a 20 minutes ‘environment meeting’ so his whole trip was paid by taxpayers as a work trip.
Charlotte was born in May so the Easter he would be missing was when she is almost one and kate would have recovered by then. I think she had even attended engagements prior to then anyway.
Will we see pics of WanK and family at a church at Norfolk? Pretty sure Anmer Hall doesn’t have its own chapel. Or is the future head of the CofE going to skip out on what many say is the biggest Christian event of the year, more important even than Christmas? Charles must be incandescent but obviously he’s powerless against WanK. It’s also interesting that Kate the Family Peacemaker is unable or unwilling to move Willy’s butt to Windsor.
Maybe they are not in Norfolk but abroad?
Kate was spotted taking a helicopter from KP to Norfolk on Tuesday. So they are there.
Also they could attend the church near Sandringham because Anmer is near it as well. I doubt we will see them though.
Or Kate used a taxpayer funded helo like a taxi, to go pick up whichever of her dozens of navy and white striped sweaters she felt like wearing this weekend. She may have been flown back the same night to Adelaide Cottage. For a Midd family Easter in Berkshire (without Bill) where they all live.
Maybe they will be out communing with nature instead of going to church. Nature is Kate’s new thing, after all.
@KittenMom, lmao. I wonder if we’ll get yet another inane video.
It makes sense that Kate would have a new thing. Louis has aged out of the “early years”; he’s 6, about to be 7. Any minimal interest she possibly had in children age 0-5, or could pretend to relate to as a subject, is finished.
This is odd right? There’s their normal laziness and then there’s refusing to even the most basic ” work” in these church appearances. Couple with them having no problem at all with people knowing that they have gone on multiple vacations this year, and having no problem being photographed at football matches. Are they pushing to see just how far they can go no real public or media outcry? Or are they spending time together because there’s about to be a change?
Agree missing this important family and religious event is odd. My mind, too, immediately went to either some kind of announcement coming or they’re abroad again. If it were an announcement about their marriage, though, you’d think they’d make it at the beginning of the school Easter break, so the kids could sit out the initial storm, not at the end.
So I’m going to go with being on yet another holiday. And the way they shut down reporting on the second ski trip indicates they are a tad sensitive about coverage. A second media embargo coming right after the first might help explain why the Fail and Liz Jones are so salty.
Or they’re just lazy AF, and we already knew that.
It does seem odd. Especially since they missed last year due to Kate’s health. It could have been a whole story about Kate’s joyful Easter return after her difficult year. Whatever the reason for not attending, yeah, they are brazenly pushing the press and the boundaries. Will the press do anything more than write some snarky articles though, idk?
Yes, it’s odd. There’s a definite downward trajectory going on.
If someone said to me, here’s all these millions of dollars and all you got to do is work about 2 days a week, sometimes, 3 in busy times, for 6 months of the year. The other 6 is yours mostly. You need to wear 000’s in designer clothes, make boring conversation once in a while. You have to go to church 3x a year. You have a few trips o’seas where you’re feted with the best of everything. Oh and have full staff at your four mansions and can chopper or be chauffeured anywhere you’re going. That’s the deal. 2-3 engagements a few days for 6 months or so. Plus meetings, dinners, trips blah blah. He’d get to 400 and everyone’s happy. I would not say no to that deal. Plus promote causes you like win win.
I dunno, this part might be a little hard, ‘You need to wear 000’s….’ I might have to negotiate on that one; otherwise, sign me up!
This is a big deal. Easter is the High Holy Day of Christianity. It should be a time when family comes together to break bread with one another, much more so than Christmas. As future head of the Anglican Church, William should know this. How childish of him and Kate to break this tradition., especially when his father looks so ill.
Truly selfish folk.
Agree completely about the importance of Easter relative to Christmas. Diehard royalists, most of whom are probably very traditional, must be raising their eyebrows at this.
I’m an atheist so I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I think it’s better that William doesn’t go because he is so obviously non-religious in his life. If I was a devout Christian I think I would be insulted by someone who’s just going through the motions to be photographed walking in and out of church on one of the most important holidays to my faith. I bet he’s rude af during the service too, rolling his eyes and hmmmph-ing the whole time.
I see what you’re saying but this is William’s job. This what he’s getting paid millions of slumlording for. It doesn’t matter if he’s religious or not, this is a part of the job. He’s over here telling every tabloid on both ends of the Atlantic that he’s a global statesman but he can’t be bothered to show up on Easter as the future head of the COE? And people want to be mad at Harry for allegedly shirking his duty to the UK and the royals? William is right there.
Agreed. But then this is just another in a long list of things about William’s jobs, past and present, that he doesn’t feel he should have to do. All the money, space, time and staff in the world to make things happen and he doesn’t. King Charles is a crummy individual, but he really did do a lot as Prince of Wales, and on a lot of unexpected fronts. William just likes to shoot the poop on soccer forums and drink beer.
Kate is also bad at church services like her nasty looks at Harry and Meghan. And grabbing at Williams rear end and his moving away from her in response
Her behaviour in church is disgusting
church is part of his job. He doesn’t want to do this, he can refuse the job, remove himself and the kids from the line of succession, turn in all the money and perks, and go earn his own living.
I don’t believe in god either, I only go to churches for weddings and funerals, if that is where they are being held, I think if William going for show and show alone then he shouldn’t do it, I don’t think it is polite for those who do believe. When William does become King he should hand the church back to the Archbishop of Canterbury.
If that was truly how William felt? He should hand in his notice now, bring it up for public discussion, and walk away from the taxpayer funding. Make his own way in the world without a penny to his name.
Amusing thought.
Christmas and Easter are traditionally the two days when strayers and non-believers show up. It isn’t like there are massive evangelical portions of CoE attenders who are offended by that. It is as much a cultural as religious tradition, one that William has chosen to shit on even when it is part of his job to show up.
@Sunnyside Willam’s feelings do not matter. The only thing that matters is the alleged “duty to the crown” that is bashed over people’s heads constantly. As the future Head of State of the UK and the Church of England, it’s his job to show up on Easter Sunday after 3 vacations in as many months. He absolutely needs to go for show because that is what’s he’s being paid tens of millions of pounds for and it’s his role as a symbolic figurehead for the country. Going for show is the whole point of the monarchy. If he can’t show up then he needs to do what @Alteya says and walk away from it all.
Christmas and Easter the churches fill with the “Christers” (Christmas and Easter Christians ) so it’s already full with non-devout people🤷🏼♀️
my parents called it the Birth and Resurrection Society! 🤣
As I said earlier, Kate’s nature video and BP’s announcement about the King’s Easter plans were signs that William and Kate were not going to attend the church service in Windsor. I saw a deranger posting that Charles and Camilla spent his Easters in Scotland thus justifying William and Kate’s absence. But he was probably allowed to do that because the Queen was the real draw for the press at that time. If William and Kate never went to Easter Service in Windsor then it wouldn’t be a problem that they’re not going to be there on Sunday. But because they attended on a somewhat regular basis there is now an expectation that they be there.
You did predict this but I was not convinced lol. It just seems like an easy way to make the press happy. Walk to the church and smile. But nope.
@Jais, plus, when they do these church walks, they’re being fawned over and receiving flowers and gifts from the people who line up to see them. I’m surprised Kate would want to miss out on people telling her how wonderful she is as they give her so many gorgeous flowers she usually can’t even hold them all.
I’m shocked every time she doesn’t put on a coat dress and swan her way to church. She really looks like she enjoys the attention from the crowds, and it’s easy “work”.
Head of the CoE is one of the job descriptions William inherits when he becomes king and it will be George’s job when it’s his turn. It’s a bad look, not taking up one of the roles of your future position and failing to prepare your eldest child who will one day be sovereign to do the same. I guess Maundy Thursday traditions will go out the window too. I’ll be surprised if the Christmas Sandringham church stroll continues on William’s watch. But cue the meltdowns when Meghan puts out an Easter story on her insta with easter egg hunt or even worst, the Sussexes going to church on Easter Sunday. That would break the internet.
The press and derangers are always gloating that Harry and Meghan miss out on the church walk and how jealous they must be of the wails! 🙄🙄. I guess they can’t write that story this year. I’m still trying to understand how not walking into church makes anyone crazy with jealousy?
Ha that’s true. The press love to say that Sussexes are missing out on spending time with a big family, but in this case, they can’t bc neither are the Wales.
Right? They love to say that H&M are shirking their duties or whatever, but this is…fine? Weird. It’s been crickets from them, except to say that Charles didn’t go to every Easter when the Queen was around.
@Aquarius the BM is absolutely going to have a fit if Meg posts anything for Easter while the oh so dutiful Wales couple are MIA. I’m sure the overshadowed talking points are being typed up as we speak.
I guarantee that the Middletons are gathering in Norfolk to celebrate the secular, fun aspects of the holiday together, and that William and Kate’s absence from Windsor is just another example of the Middletons having absolute priority in their lives. It’s simply not enough to have spent very recent vacations together.
It would be more likely they’re gathering in Berkshire, given they all live there now.
I wonder if CarolE puts Easter-themed decorated trees in every room of the house, including bedrooms, like she does at Christmas.
The last time the Wales family attended church together was Christmas Day 2024, correct?
It seems to me that these church walks are the events that reveal the whole family to an actual gathering of their subjects, and press cameras, on the most intimate level.
They’re right there, they have to interact with the crowd and with each other, and there’s no hiding, no editing photos or film to make it look better.
That day, the kids looked sad & stressed, Billy Idle looked irritated at best, and Kate was trawling the crowd for love and flirting with a handsome admirer who brought her a Special Scarf.
I don’t think this is about Charles, or religion, or family time. I think this is about them not wanting to run the gauntlet of eyes and cameras on them and the kids, while trying to live up to their own hype.
Because they’re lying to the world about being any kind of happy family.
Yes, I agree with your take. They struggle so much to be together as a group for very long. Like you say, everyone always looks unhappy and stressed and it’s very hard to hide that when you’re so close to lots of people.
The monarchy as we knew it is ending.
That is clear.
Let’s hope so!
The UK monarchy – in any form – needs to end. Before Charles is dead.
This has been getting a lot of negative press in the British press, even the ones generally positive towards the Cambridges.
Honestly how are they so bad at this? It’s one morning, suck it up.
Honestly they have been dragged in the comments under the Fail article on this refusal. Christian worship, family unity, the marriage is fine, service is a duty would have demonstrated by a simple appearance at church. They already have a light schedule but this is one of those occasions where they should be present so why skip it and cause speculation? Why repeat last year’s disastrous approach when Kate could have attended church like Charles did when he had to withdraw from public duty? Just her attending church in first half of 2024 would have stopped any speculation. No need for syrupy videos if you do something easy and straightforward with the minimum of fuss.
Maybe Kate is sick again? I don’t know when the photos of her in red in this post were taken but she looked unwell or in pain. (don’t mistake me for a Kate stan, I’m just wondering!)
She was just skiing last week, so I doubt she is ‘sick’.
My grandma used to say lazy folks are cunning. William and Kate are lazy, unsophisticated, unintellectual however they may have found the bug in the system of monarchy especially under the loud anti monarchy chants. They can do as little as their hearts desire because they are it. They think the UK has to accept their terms if they want a monarchy. KP strategy seems to be to keep WanK a rare sighting, just to tease the establishment that they are both irreplaceable and can resign from public duties anytime. They are pushing their luck I think.
Your gram was right. W&K are cunning, in how they publicly function against each other in their miserable marriage, against the palaces, all of it. And most of all in their laziness.
“They think the UK has to accept their terms if they want a monarchy”. You hit the the nail on the head, except, they don’t think it.
They know it.
No, the people of the UK can choose to end the monarchy. Or they can choose to select a new monarch.
That may not seem possible, but it was Churchill and members of his cabinet who decided Bertie would be king. At first Churchill wanted to skip Bertie and his two girls (Elizabeth and Margaret), and go for Duke of Gloucester. Trouble was, he was just as fond of partying and affairs with married women. Eventually Churchill decided on Bertie – but it was a decision made by the government not the Windsors.
“Everyone understood the family not attending last year when Kate was sick but there’s been a lot of raised eyebrows at the palace about William’s decision to skip again this year.”
William’s decision.
How long before Charles or Kate or Meghan and Harry take the blame for this instead?
So when Harry and Meghan skipped Christmas in 2019 you would think that the whole world almost came to an end but the future head of the COE skipping one of it’s most important holidays is just another day. Where is the outrage that this man who they keep reminding us is going to be king one day has failed to live up to his role in every way possible? He has nothing to show for the 42 years he’s been an heir with every privilege in the world. He has failed to do the actual job of stepping in on behalf of his father during times when a real heir would. The only thing he’s consistent about is going to football games and vacations. He hasn’t learned Welsh even though he has known most of his life that he would have that title and responsibility before becoming king. They used to say that he was being trained and prepared for his future roles but it’s obvious that it was all a lie because all he seems to be prepared to do is be a rich spoiled entitled frat boy with no responsibilities.
I feel like the Wails are like the raptors in Jurassic Park, testing the fences. They are seeing just how much they can get away with without being pilloried in the press. Fewer than one event a week? Meh. Going to more football matches than official events? Nothing. Four vacations abroad (so far) this year? Barely a mention in the press. So long as the rota is willing to focus their negative attention mostly on the Sussexes, the Wails will just keep doing whatever they want.
Okay, I’m loving that Jurassic Park analogy. Agree that they will just keep doing what they want as long as they’re not being massively called out. But they’re really testing. It’s possible they’ll “drip-feed” a cutesy easter insta video of the family in nature but even that might not go over well. But then what will they care?
@Jay, excellent analogy! 👏
Some day, Wm and Kate wil have poked the bear with their defiance of Charles once too often, and they will get their comeuppance. Waiting for it..
Methinks the tabloids are already starting to dish up some comeuppance, with the Liz Jones put-our-toe-in-this-water piece. And leaving up all the comments, which is basically most of them, mocking Kate and William and her clothing and how vapid the nature video was and how he spends time watching soccer on weeks’ long vacations.
I don’t think there is a lot that the King can do, William is financially independent, he will become King the moment his father dies, and if he is conveniently unalive George will become King the moment his grandfather dies. So who will be regent. Harry is next adult in the line of succession followed by Andrew. That could be very interesting.
Harry would not return to the UK and leave his wife and children to be regent. There are others who can fill that role in this unlikely event
It’s always been insane that the titular head of the CoE has been the king, given the immorality of many English monarchs, but that’s the deal.
There’s no good reason for William to miss it this year. I hope we find out what’s really going on.
Yep, no good reason to miss it this year. Especially with the king’s health being so fragile, you’d think FFK and FFQ would want to telegraph that everything will continue as before, in the great royal tradition, when the inevitable happens to Charles.
Sorry, FK and FQ, still learning the lingo here
I also would have thought that after all of the “Charles snubs Harry” articles this past week, W&K would have felt smug about being seen doing the walk with him. Like they “won.”
The first King to become head of the church of England was that highly immoral man Henry VIII
Yeah he’s probably snubbing the King.
But the King probably deserves it.
You do understand William is no better than Charles, and in many ways is far worse?
Some Fail commentators are excusing them because they’re been through a lot last year. Plus Kate isn’t fully recovered and needs lots of down time. Also KC is on still on chemo after a year so they may be about to have their world turned upside down. Therefore , they reason FK and FQ are entitled to spent as much time together as possible before relentless ruling dominates their existence. That’s as maybe but Will and Kate certainly are the King and Queen of putting things off for as long as possible. Adults have responsibilities and jobs that need doing even if they are irksome and inconvenient. There are much worse things in life/ work
than attending church for an hour at Easter, surely?
Strong enough to go on two lengthy skiing holidays in three months, but not strong enough to walk to a church service and sit for an hour? She’ll never be fully recovered from a disease she never had to begin with.
Kate also hit the slopes and skiied which requires endurance and strength yet she can’t work
Yeah, those TWO ski vacations + the beach vacation in the Caribbean pretty much negate any & all excuses about Kate still recovering from cancer & needs her down time.
Well, if KC is still undergoing treatment for his cancer and things aren’t going well, then all the reason for them to be with him…I mean, isn’t Kate his beloved daughter in law and William his only son in Britain? If I were in their place and my father or father in law was in a bad health situation, I would want to be with him, at special occasions at least…🤷♀️..After all, the BM never stop to say how bad is Harry for “abandoning ” his father..isn’t the same for his other son?
Exactly @First Comment the maths ain’t mathing. Will and Kate have enjoyed as much leniency as possible with regards to their schedule after delaying becoming “full time” working royals for as long as they could. KC continues to work far harder despite being on chemo for a full year. Isn’t Will being self indulgent and selfish by continuing to underperform when he should be working in tandem with dad to ensure a smooth transition? The role of PoW is heir not 20 feckless playboy with no commitment or responsibilities. It is his job as future head of the CE church to attend church at Easter. The Fail supports the monarchy and they have been nipping at his heels recently. Really this is another own goal if he refuses to turn up on Easter Sunday.
Stop making sense and asking sensical questions, lol. While we may believe Charles and William are at odds, that’s mostly not what their pr is telling the British public, so yes why isn’t this being seen as William abandoning his father, a father who is suffering from cancer, on Easter??? They’re in the same freaking country. What if this is Charles’ last Easter?
The tradition in the UK is for the children to have Easter eggs, maybe an Easter egg hunt (although this is more borrowing from US traditions), and a family meal together on Easter Sunday. The supermarkets are all discounting lamb and vegetables that are traditional to eat for this meal. Followed by Simnel cake, although its mainly older people who would still buy that. More religious Christians go to church on Easter Sunday, and Charles as Head of the church really has to go. So should William.
Not everyone has a family meal at Easter, you aren’t thought sad for not being with your family. But if you are going to follow tradition, that is what you would do.
It won’t need a referendum to remove William from the succession. If he cannot fulfil a legally established role as head of the Church of England then he cannot be King. The Monarch does not have the power many people assume. The relationship between the monarchy and parliament is established by law. Absolute monarchy died with Charles I. Parliament has ultimate power.
The Act of Settlement 1701 established the line of succession to the throne as being the Protestant descendants of Sophie of Hanover. This ended the possibility of the Pope having political power in England. It also paved the way for the union with Scotland in 1707. Among other conditions this Act established an independent judiciary by ending the monarch’s power to appoint judges. It ended the Monarch’s ability to raise an army and go to war. It also required the Monarch to have Parliament’s permission to leave the country.
Subsequent laws have strengthened the supremacy of Parliament and established clearly that the role of the Monarch is to serve the people. The national anthem includes the lines ‘may he defend our laws and ever give us cause to sing with heart and voice , God save the King.’ These are our laws, not his laws.
American here. Explain to me, with glee, this part: It also required the Monarch to have Parliament’s permission to leave the country.
So Parliament could put a stop to the endless ski holidays and Mustique frolicking? I, as a petty bitch, love this idea if I understand it correctly.
@Heather, as another petty bitch, ITA!
It relates to the turmoil of the previous century i.e the overthrow and execution of Charles I, the 5 year ‘Commonwealth ‘ under Oliver Cromwell and the restoration of the monarchy with Charles II. The fears related to control by foreign powers and attempts to re-establish absolute monarchy. The Pope had considerable influence with Roman Catholic monarchies in Europe.
The King, James II, was a Roman Catholic but his two daughters by his first wife, Anne Hyde, had been raised as Protestants. The elder daughter , Mary, was married to the Protestant Prince of Orange who also had a claim to the English throne. James’s remarriage after his first wife’s death produced a son who displaced Mary as heir to the throne. This son was to be raised in the Roman Catholic faith.
Parliament invited William of Orange to invade England. James attempted to resist by raising an army against the invaders. The army however surrendered to the Prince of Orange. James fled the country and Parliament declared he had effectively abdicated by leaving. This became known as the ‘Bloodless Revolution’. Parliament then invited Princess Mary and her husband to be joint rulers.
The Act of Settlement 1701 was intended to confirm the supremacy of Parliament and prevent any further attempts by a monarch to undermine this position. Charles II had made several visits to Catholic countries in what he saw as peace-making diplomatic missions but Parliament saw these visits as undermining its position and as potentially dangerous.
Charles III seems to have had some difficulty grasping the concept of Parliamentary supremacy. As Prince of Wales he made comments suggesting he would make changes as King. Some of those changes including reducing the number of official working royals had already been implemented by Queen Elizabeth. However his idea of vowing to be a ‘defender of faiths’ rather than a ‘defender of the faith’ was overruled.
Instead some words were added to express commitment to supporting all faiths. Similarly, the idea of including the general public in the oaths of allegiance made by made by the ranks of nobility, was withdrawn (at the last minute since it was already printed in the order of service). These actions show that some authority higher than the King is at work. The proposed ‘vow of the people’ was nonsense. The King’s duty is to serve the people. The people do not serve the King. The people’s chosen representatives are Parliament. The nobility makes an oath of allegiance because historically they have potential power to usurp the Monarch.
Charles wasn’t totally clued up about his position but William seems completely clueless. He doesn’t understand that the function of a constitutional monarch is not to exercise power but to hold power in trust for the people. By holding power in trust a monarch acts as a safeguard against dictatorship.
I’ve produced a lengthy answer (above) but the short answer is YES if William becomes King he can be stopped from leaving the country. I suspect that those who are responsible for oversight of the monarchy are already involved in discussions about William and Kate and the whole issue of their behaviour especially over the last year. At present William needs the King’s permission to leave the country. Charles however can be influenced/instructed by Parliament.
May they should invite the Aston Villa team to the Easter service? That should guarantee William turning up???
This would be so funny if it wasn’t actually true 😭
Tom Cruise’s presence would also likely ensure their attendance.
Beckham is still wanting that title.
All the people moaning about archie and lili not being around cousins and grandpa and Harry not there hugging his father don’t seem to mind willy and his kids missing out. I think this is a preview to king willy. All the people that would be upset about the new way will be dead, young people won’t care, and won’t put any effort into abolishing the monarchy. Tax payers will just shrug and kept paying. Press will have to sit with the scraps they are given because what are they going to do about it. There is no downside to this for willy, no one can do or say anything about his constant holidays and not doing any work. I don’t think there is anything more to this than that. He doesn’t want to and no one can make him. I don’t think he and charles have much of a relationship at all. They tried to fake it a bit to stick it to Harry but that didn’t last long.
“He doesn’t want to and no one can make him”
This. This is at the heart of it all. I don’t think anything is brewing. They (William) don’t want to go and so guess what? They won’t and the press will just have quietly seethe. William will be a shadow king and people and the press will just accept it.
Well well, indeed. They need to stop with the ‘Harry hasn’t seen his father in 14 months’ crapola. William is RIGHT THERE & doesn’t visit his father, not for his birthday, not for major holidays, not for royal events.
They can’t blame Kate’s health this year, we know she’s doing fine physically. If she’s well enough to gallivant in the woods with the UK equivalent of the Boy Scouts, she’s well enough to be seen in public for Easter. Maybe she wanted her first Easter without chemo/cancer to be with her family, I get that to an extent. But she married into the BRF, a public institution, and to skip the Easter service just because she prefers her family is a weak excuse? It would be one thing if one of her parents wasn’t doing well but as far as we know, that’s not the case. It’s that or they are on another vacation out of the country? I doubt William will continue with the Easter service tradition when he’s king. He’s not a church going man.
Christmas/Maundy/Easter/Remembrance Services also unmarked by the King??? But he worships Aston Villa so that makes him more relatable?
I didn’t say this in my first comment but I could see William getting rid of the Sandringham Christmas altogether and attending church privately in Windsor or with Kate’s family. I know he will be head of the Church of England but I don’t think that’s a role he’s going to do much with. Sandringham has always seemed like such an unfun and dreary way to spend Christmas Day. Say what you want about William but he doesn’t seem keen on living his life in big drafty palaces, that was QEII’s thing. I also can’t think of any other royal family that marks Christmas in such a public way. Maybe the other European royal families issue public statements of good tidings and well wishes but they don’t go speak to the public while walking to/from church on Christmas Day. I wouldn’t care if this happened, Christmas is meant to be private and spent with family but then I’m not British. I know to them it would be a huge deal.
Other royal families do publicly attend Easter and Christmas celebrations, talk to well-wishers, and pose for photos at these events.
W&K have used Christmas and Easter as weapons against the Windsors since they announced their engagement. It was a constant stream of alternating holidays, posing happily with the Midds at the church (which the Midds never attended until after the engagement was announced), carole’s knockoff fake ‘royal christmas’ filled with freebies and freebie boxing day animal slaughter.
William has no problem using posing at Church as a PR move against anyone he wants. He’s done it for years.
William has many mansions and luxury vacations. The queen just did not enjoy the wealth and vacation a lot like her lazy grandson
Wait, I have a question. Are they STILL on vacation? How the heck long is this spring break from school that the kids have??
@BeanieBean, RIGHT? It seems like these kids are always either returning from a break, on vacation, or have another one coming up soon. It’s ludicrous.
Whatever happened to Princess Missington December 2023 did nothing to improve William and Charles’ relationship. It’s bad enough that William is basic, lazy, and vicious, has given the Middletons ammunition, and has done f*ck all to support his ailing father – now he’s flatly refusing to perform the required duties of his station. Going to church for 1 hour is the very least William should do. But he shames his father by refusing to work and it’s obvious Charles is frustrated and too impotent to take charge of the situation.
Charles and Camilla spent Easter in Scotland about as much as at Windsor during E’s time. I don’t think it’s such a big deal for the Waleses not to be there except a) Charles’s health b) their lack of work in general and c) the press hypocrisy in dealing with vs Harry’s absence. And I doubt we see them at St Mary Magdalene near Sandringham. Charles and Camilla were at least seen at Crathie Kirk on Easter when they weren’t at Windsor.
Lambrook is back on Thursday 24 April so the children have had twice as long off as state schools.
As far as I know, Charles himself has been in therapy for years. So how on earth can he have so little compassion and love for his son? I assume he couldn’t have bonded with either Harry or the heir to the throne and has nothing to contribute in terms of sympathy, comfort and support other than a “I felt the same way”. He has everything he wanted. Children, he was free as a widower for the woman he truly loved, he didn’t have to step down because of it and he’s king. I think he doesn’t care what happens around him, he has everything he wanted. At what a terrible cost to his family.. 😢
Charles was not a widower. He was planning the launch of Camilla as future consort. When Diana was still alive. He had a very public birthday party they were a couple. He divorced dian a have her a divorce settlement. Had they been married when she died she would have the h r h and would have had a royal funeral. Conservatives in the church may have talked widower. But Charles and diana were divorced in 1996. Diana dated d o d I and was no longer Charles wife. It was not the time of the duke of Windsor Charles a divorced man and divorcee got married. They waited until after the queen mum died because she did not want them married in her lifetime
In my church, there is no divorce of people who have married in church, and even a divorced wife remains the wife. So a second church marriage is out of the question. I don’t know what it’s like in the Anglican Church.
Well, of course it was all strategically well prepared. They had to confess their guilt in the service, which was only a blessing service and not a wedding service.
He was divorced legally but the Church of England did not recognize divorce at the time. Therefore the Church considered him a widower. C&C waited until after 2002, when Church of England voted to let divorced persons marry in the Church. When a former Archbishop of Canterbury was giving interviews and advocating for them to marry.
If Charles was a widower the burning question is why he paid dian a divorce settlement and as Charles wife she would have had the h r h when she died and been entitled to a royal funeral. Charles was not a widower the church relaxed those rules prior to 2002. Anne got to remarry in the church of Scotland some years before 2002. Charles and Camilla waited because the queen mother wanted them not to marry in her lifetime. Plus there was the Burrell trial which featured some unfortunate revelations about the royals. Charles was not a widower. Otherwise Charles could not openly be involved with Camilla while dian a was still alive and divorced from Charles. Charles cannot have his cake and eat it too. Plus Camilla had an ex husband still living. Wallis Simpson had two living ex husbands but still married Wallis Edward legally. The rules then were relaxed for c and c
Thanks for information Alteya ☀️
Tessa you’re ignoring what I’ve written. Again.
Henry VIII started a whole church so he could publicly cheat on dump, divorce, and murder wives. No one was going to stop Charles from being with Camilla, the Church certainly wasn’t going to. He and Diana were legally separated then legally divorced. He was free (legally) to do as he chose.
Church of England and Church of Scotland are two different entities. That’s why Anne and Tim married in Scotland, because the Church of Scotland allowed divorced persons to marry in the Church years before Church of England allowed it.
Charles and Diana were legally divorced therefore divorce settlement. The Church of England (religious not legal) did not recognize divorce at that time. When Diana died, Charles was considered a widower by the Church. Not by the law, by the Church.
C&C waited to marry until after Church of England changed their system in 2002, allowing divorced persons to marry in the Church. A former Archbishop of Canterbury was publicly giving interviews and encouraging them to marry. I don’t think Queen Mum cared, and Charles used her fav diamond ring as Camilla’s engagement ring.
They chose to marry in a registry office and have a massive blessing service. They could have chosen to marry in the Church of England, however, because the Church allowed it since 2002.
Diana sold her HRH for more money from Charles, her lawyer admitted it. Fergie was keeping her HRH in her divorce. Diana found out and ran to the tabloids with her lies about the Windsors stealing her HRH. QEII got fed up and issued letter patent removing HRH from anyone who divorced out.
Diana would only get a royal funeral if the Windsors decided she’d get one. They decided not to give her one, their choice.
The permission for divorced people to marry applied to Camilla not Charles. Even if the church didn’t recognize his divorce to Diana, he would be considered a widower and free to remarry after 1997.
Charles had gurus like van d e r post. Charles got to have his cake and eat it too. He got the heirs from the suitable wife then got to marry the mistress. He treated Diana badly and was hardly a devoted husband.
There is something deeply divisive going on between C&C and WanK. It really picked up speed in late 2023/early 2024, because the frostiness between them is palpable. I don’t think relations were particularly warm and fuzzy prior to that but family closeness is now at a complete dead halt. I think the tabloids know exactly what has happened and are starting to drop less than fawning articles about WanK especially.
I think back to the coronation and how deliberately they misbehaved, cheapening the occasion with Kate showing up in a tinfoil tiara despite the no tiara rule, and she and William showing up late thereby delaying the procession. Charles knows William and Kate are a liability, both of them as lazy and disinterested as possible, doing the bare minimum and going on endless holidays. Charles also knows that Kate’s *cancer* was likely all a ruse to cover up why she took most of the year off, the clumsy attempts at “everything’s all right, nothing to see here” with fake photos and videos, William being drunk or drugged up at an investiture, etc. etc.
This really is the tipping point for the monarchy. Charles knows full well William is not remotely capable of taking on the role of king, or Kate as queen, and seems to be giving #1 son and DIL enough rope to hang themselves for good. Does this mean they won’t become King & Queen? Who knows but I hope Charles’s dying wish is to pull the rug out from under both their lazy asses.
@Jaded; agree something divisive has happened and I trace it to right after Christmas 2023. Kate went under the radar then, in the hospital, maybe for planned abd. surgery plus something else much bigger than the planned surgery. The family seemed to circle the wagons but then William showed up with bruising as did Anne’s husband with a black eye. William cancelled out of important events and seemed impaired. Kate went missing but not seen leaving the hospital but showing up in her mother’s car. Charles truly pissed about something and William pushing back. Weird
The probable cause is W&K’s sources giving quotes to the reporters that Charles should step down for Will because he is too old, just like how other European countries did it. To be fair to Will, Charles said the same thing to his own mother. So, it isn’t a new fight between the monarch and the heir. The #kategate happened shortly after those articles.
Big speculation in the comments below, and the thing is simple, they are still on vacation. Kate with Middleton and the kids in one place, and William with a friend in another. That’s the whole secret
if William is really stupid enough to be on a jolly with a special friend over the Easter break, when all and sundry will be on his trail, ….he really DGAF. I mean. His whole vibe is, “make me.” Cause he did manage to hold it together — at a pinch, straining at the gills, but plausibly — whilst his grandmother was alive. He was even nice to Meghan on the walkabout at Windsor. Where Kate was so awful, and, incongruously, in such high spirits. As if taking a curtain call. At that point, they seemed to have survived the Rose pruning rumours, which broke in the spring of 2019. What the hell happened between Christmas 2023 and Easter 2024??? I had imagined when she showed up with a scar that William was drunk driving and they crashed. Or something. Something that would account for a head injury, to explain the rumours she was in an induced coma. Cancer….. never seemed likely. We had a close friend go through chemo for leukaemia three years ago and it was absolutely brutal. Thank God now she’s cancer free. But the full course of treatment was six months in hospital, followed by 18 months of a grinding regime of medications and doctors’ visits and she was one of the lucky ones. Thank God. Just having been close enough to it, to see its effects, I don’t think Kate had cancer. But she was definitely incapacitated.
Oh, he’s stupid enough, @ParkRunMum. Never underestimate the depths of William’s stupidity.
I wondered similar. They have an agreement for playing that they’re still together and it doesn’t include Easter?🐣
Power causes brain damage:
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Who has the role of mediatior between of KC and W if they just aren’t speaking? Would it be their Private Secretaries getting together to sort out a compromise? Or do they just ignore it and or brief the press?? Or just limp along pretending to be the Waltons? Must be exhausting to have to deal with immature and selfish numpties who refuse to get their act together even when time is shortening!
We all know this is Meghan’s jam fault!!!
Up tick.
@Ben 😂😂🤣🤣 dying!!!
Do you think the King is “not long for this world” and they want to spend this last Easter doing their own thing as a family? With helicopters at the ready, how hard is it to fly in & out for Easter service, showing respect to your father who is still battling cancer?
Jaysus, even I, poorly complaint Episcopalian (the US branch of the Anglican Church) that I was, kept up my membership in the Christmas-Easter Club.
Christmas had lovely candles and lots of nice smelling greenery plus a warm glow in the darkness of winter, while Easter was the really big show, with all the pretty flowers and people dressed up in their spring finery! As long as I stayed in the Church, I made the effort twice a year to show up, and it was actually fun because of all the pomp.
I’m a Buddhist (philosophical) now. Some form of Christian agnosticism or atheism isn’t an option for the future King of England. He is carrying forward a tradition that started in the 16th century! It’s really these traditions that keep the monarchy alive.
William needs to get with the program, or it will be the end of the monarchy in England.
Everyone I know is able to do both things, attend Easter Mass and have a fun Easter bunny celebration for the kids. My family was also able to travel to another province (500+ kilometers) for the weekend. We didn’t even have access to a helicopter to make the trip faster, we drove! The excuses made for the BRF as to why they can’t/won’t work or do simple family activities/traditions, are lame.
On the other had I’m kinda loving this. Can’t and Won’t are giving Camilla (and Charles by extension since what she wants is what he does) exactly what she’s always wanted, dominance and sideline Princess Diana’s children.
The British tabloid media is getting exactly what they deserve since they always played ball for Camilla and Charles, their scapegoats have all now peace’d out. Enjoy your boring Easter coverage, C&C and the rag tag of family Z listers is all that’s left.
I am absolutely certain in knowing that this will NEVER happen, but it just tickles me pink to think how amazing would it be if the Sussex family showed up to join the Windsor’s for Easter this year instead, lol!
Or even if the Sussexes just turned up at a California church–although that might entail security issues.
It would equally be great if the Waleses were papped on a beach or skiing somewhere this weekend. Even a new video of Kate touching trees or the kids jumping over logs this weekend, as they celebrate “mystical renewal” or something, would look awful and be an own goal.
It’s satisfying knowing that the Sussexes are no doubt spending a really lovely happy private family day with their children. Maybe doing an Easter Egg hunt.
Of course it is a deliberate snub. They are trying to spin this as William making the most of Kate’s new lease on life (since two ski vacations are two too many for a woman who is too fragile for light busywork) totally ignoring that Charles is still ill so this may be the last Easter they can spend as a family.
It would be wrong to pretend to believe in a god if they don’t. It is time for the Archbishop of Canterbury to talk to the King about what to do in the future. I believe that the King does believe. Of course William can’t be god’s anointed if he doesn’t believe in god.
From a Christian perspective Easter is a more important holiday than Christmas and has very little to do with the Easter bunny. If attendance at church services will be part of those children’s future they need to do so now. If William can go on a ski holiday with Kate he can certainly walk in church with her and sit through a service.
Well, yes, but in order to survive these joint skiing, he didn’t let go of the bottle of alcohol from his hand, you can’t do that in church;)))
@Nikki: “rag tag of family Z listers”
That is such a perfect description, I laughed out loud.
I think that William was willing to put the bare minimum in for family appearances and holidays while his grandmother was alive for a few reasons – one is that I think he actually did love and respect her. Two, he was at the time financially reliant on his father. Now that he has his own duchy he’s not financially reliant on his father, and I also don’t think that he’s all that close with his dad and particularly despises Camilla so he doesn’t want to spend much time with them including on holidays. Both William and Harry also apparently loathe Camillas son, and Camilla and Charles invited Camilla’s family to Christmas so again no surprise that William peaced out of Christmas with them. Tbh good for William, Charles and Camilla are toxic and Charles was a crappy father to him, I don’t think William or Harry owe Charles anything and Charles is not the kind of father that is going tj make an effort to spend time with his kids and grandkids if they don’t come to him on his terms. Camilla is toxic and has spent the last few years leaking stories about each brother to the press for her personal gain so again why would either of them want to be around her either.
Well, there are rumors on x that it was Cammie who send the paparazzi to France for their skiing holiday and now the lazies are on strike from work😆
Camilla of course would have found out about the vacations of the wails . The wails are clueless if they think they’ll never be found out.
William showed no respect for the queen when he tried to break up harry and Meghan. The queen approved the marriage William had no business butting in.
He didn’t much respect the queen either, if past reports are to be believed. Didn’t he publicly announce his engagement and arrange the interview *before* telling the queen and Charles that he was engaged, whereas the Middletons had known for at least three or four weeks? So he didn’t actually “ask permission” as it is often stated that certain royals in the line of succession must do. It was presented to her as a done deal.
Can’t imagine they still “need time with the children “ is the excuse. They’ve taken three or more vacation breaks already this year, seen gallivanting on ski slopes and all. And now they can’t attend Easter mass because they need time with the children???? There’s more to all this then they are letting on. Must be something going on between the Wails and KC and Camzilla that we don’t know of. Britain better prepare for an autocratic King Bulliam, prone to ill temper, vindictive and jealous. And for sneaky, goody two shoes Saint Catherine, the “victim” , the “poor me”, who is still pining for Harry…
The children have more luxury vacations with their parents most children can only dream of. When they get older they would want to be with their friends eventually taking vacations with them. Not constantly with their parents who would need a different excuse.
Has Carole gotten more influence now. It looks that way.
@tessa
You can see that Carole has William by the balls now and won’t let go. Her time at Ascot, that embarrassing WK ”love” movie didn’t come out of nowhere. I assume she has detailed documentation of why Kate got that scar on her eye socket.
You should be careful though, because a rat can be dangerous if you chase it.
What exactly did William get taught by the queen during those teas he had with her
She probably gave him some direction which was ignored apparently. Philip had to leave the room while these lessons took place.
Word elsewhere is there’s an air ambulance thing going on in Norfolk. God help us if we get a PR shoot of William in a helicopter or another video of Catherine touching trees. Instead of doing what’s still their duty at least for now, or spending time with William’s ailing father. If the Wales turn Easter into another PR stunt, they might as well abdicate and spend the rest of their lives on ski slopes.
Meh, Bill doing what Bill wants. The media, majority of the public and royalist support his do nothing attitude.
Some may be apathetic about what he does.
What the heck is he thinking? Attending would have been an easy win. Is he ill or just immature? Princess Kate has the kids and PW is abroad?