For years, the Windsors and their courtiers have insisted that the Duchess of Sussex “bullies” people. When asked for specifics, a tumbleweed in a tiara rolls past. For example, I spent years covering all of the different versions of the “Meghan made Kate cry” lie, and the story was ALWAYS insane in how unspecific it was – it was always like “no, you don’t understand, Meghan was there and Kate just started crying and losing her mind, and obviously that’s all Meghan’s fault.” Now imagine an office full of people like that, and that’s what it was like for Meghan at Kensington Palace. How was Meghan a bully? “You don’t understand, I cried in a closet for a WEEK!” Okay, but what did she actually say or do? “SHE LOOKED AT ME and I felt BULLIED!” Well, instead of talking about why the Prince and Princess of Wales are too lazy to go to church for Easter, the British press has made a fun new story about Meghan. You guessed it, Meghan was mean to someone six years ago, we’re only hearing about it now, and there’s a hilarious new twist involving QEII.
Meghan Markle was so rude to a royal gardener that the late Queen Elizabeth II was forced to intervene, a royal insider has claimed. The shocking allegation is one of number of complaints lodged against the Duke and Duchess of Sussex which claims they are difficult to work with and often bully members of staff.
According to esteemed royal historian Hugo Vickers, there was ‘trouble’ while Harry and Meghan were living at Frogmore Cottage – close to Windsor Castle – between 2019 and March 2020. In one incident, the Duchess of Sussex was so rude to an under gardener that the head gardener in Windsor felt the need to complain to the late Queen, who then drove over to Meghan to give her a dressing down.
‘The head gardener went to complain to the Queen and she told her off because she obviously didn’t like people being rude to staff,’ Mr Vickers told The Sun.
Meghan has developed a reputation in the workplace for being difficult to work with. In September 2024, an unnamed source told the Sunday Times that they witnessed ‘people being chewed up in person and over the phone and made to feel like s***’.
As always, they cannot even bring themselves to describe the heinous acts of the Duchess of Sussex. If an “under-gardener” really was bullied, I bet it was because Meghan politely asked him about the mulch, or whether it was the right time of year to plant parsnips. The under-gardener then locked himself in a shed and wept for three days, confessing Meghan’s terrible treatment to the head gardener afterwards. Then Lizzie drove to Frogmore Cottage and whipped her slippers at Meghan. Yes, all of this is totally believable! This is absolutely not another round of Insane Royal Mad Libs.
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Beyond bonkers stuff here.
Seriously!! It’s TOTALLY become a game of Mad Libs, like Kaiser said 😄
Meghan did _______ to _______ and they felt
(verb). (noun)
bullied.
She ________and _______ till they cried.
(verb). (verb)
OMG somebody help me 😂😂 how can I “unread” this nonsense 🤣🤣🤣
The head gardener having direct access to the queen is one of the worst lies yet. She didn’t manage staff herself, she had loads of people for that.
@ Megan: EXACTLY that. And the idea that the Queen of sodding England would personally and physically get herself involved with a gardener’s issue (I’m not intending to be classist; just honest) gave me an enormous chuckle.
@Megan, right? That alone automatically makes this story BS!
The Queen went for walks with her corgis daily and any time she felt stressed. She was quite likely to bump into any outdoor staff such as gardeners. She probably did know her head gardeners personally.
She would definitely have known her head gardener. I just dont see that person running to QEII because Meghan looked him in the eye for too long or something.
Qeii put in place standing orders that no staff were allowed to look at her or approach her. She didnt want to be stared at ‘at home’.
Philip was more likely to know the garden staff, as he oversaw all the outdoor work for Windsor as well as sandringhsm and Balmoral
It’s not even slightly believable either, these people have truly lost the plot of their lives. No one will ever convince me lovely Meghan, with the impeccable manners, would ever yell at a gardener.
Let’s say, for the sake of argument, that yes, Meghan did yell at/bully/give the evil eye to members of staff. What is conveniently forgotten is the multiple stories of William’s famous temper tantrums – so we’re to believe that William has never yelled at staff. And what about the story of Prince Andrew blowing a royal gasket when housekeeping staff didn’t put his stuffed toys back on his bed in the right order. I believe that they’ve all raised their voices at staff multiple times and in multiple ways. Not to mention, we’re supposed to believe that the gardener was able to approach the Queen with his petty concerns – for one thing, that’s what the Chief of Staff is for. And that’s supposing that this even happened.
Surely a game could be made out of this, I’m kind of mad that I don’t drink because that would be a fantastic drinking game. Next week they’ll say that she bullied the sous-chef for sure.
What is an under gardener? Seriously, where do they come up with these classifications? Perhaps, this under gardener was annoyed an American woman of two heritages knew more than he did? The Queen didn’t have time for this bs!
Yes. Bonkers. I believe it was in SPARE(maybe the H&M docuseries), that Harry mentioned how they got to know the gardeners and Meghan showed interest in their work. Wanting to know the names of the plants/flowers grown around Frogmore.
Hugo Vickers isn’t ‘esteemed’. He’s a steaming pile of shite. Meghan wasn’t rude to a gardener. The whole story is bullticky. Unless they want to make Meghan asking a gardener if they were okay and how they were a thing.
How do we cover for the fact that Peg and Can’t skipped Easter services? Let’s tell a story about the Queen (who is dead and can’t dispute this lie) yelling at Meg for bullying the gardener.
Amazing how easy it was for that head gardener to get an audience with the queen in order to make his complaint. Mmmm Hmmm.
And this person waited six years to speak up because…?
These people are pathetic.
So wait, the QUEEN drove over to scold Meghan?! Shouldn’t she have summoned Meghan to come to her? 🙄. These stories make no sense
Those people and derangers will believe it. Someone said yesterday or day before their cool aunt believes all the stories about them. The smart people I know do too. All the msm post garbage lies about her and everyone believes it because legacy media is meant to be mostly right.
These people blindly believe the media? What makes you classify them as “cool” or “smart”?
I don’t really think it’s about legacy media being believable. In the US, most people don’t care enough about the royals to practice media literacy. I know my Apple News is flooded with negative headlines from obscure sources about Meghan. If you see those all the time, it’s pretty easy to get a negative impression. I have smart people all the time tell me they don’t like her, but when I ask why they can’t really give an answer. They have just been inundated with negative headlines about her.
Good point.
A jolly big hole in the story, I don’t believe it either. It isn’t Meghan’s style.
Diana and Fergie could not just “walk in” to talk to the Queen.
No one had access to the Queen, especially an unnamed gardener. Everyone, including Charles and the rest of the family had to go through channels to speak to her, but we are to believe that a gardener was able to speak to her about another member of her family and she took them at their word, drove herself to FC and chastised Meghan, none of that sounds feasible. This is the same person who Meghan and Harry have only said the sweetest of things about, even after they moved away to the states. This is the same person who called CH when Harry and Meghan were there with C and C, to talk to Meghan about resolving the issue with her dad. She’s the same person who was lied on by the media to have had an issue with her nickname being given to a newborn Lilibet, only for that lie to be proven wrong. She’s the one who invited them to spend time with her when they returned from Canada in 2020 only for her schedule to “suddenly be full for the entire week” once they returned into the UK. Harry and Meghan have been the only ones who have spoken highly of the Queen as a monarch and a grandmother. The media and other royals have made her into a weapon to be wielded against the Sussexes even when their relationship with her has only been beautiful and genuinely respectful.
For that matter, Harry couldn’t get in to see the Queen in January 2020 to discuss stepping back. It wasn’t until the Sussexes went public with their plans that Harry finally got an invitation to Sandringham.
@But Alors – I have a hard time believing the Queen “drove over to give Meghan a dressing down”, unless of course she was driven by a chauffeur, but why go to all that trouble for such a short distance between Windsor Castle and Frogmore Cottage? In 2019 QEII would have been 93 years old and highly unlikely to have still been driving a car. This story doesn’t ring true at all.
Correction – I see there is a report of the Queen driving herself around the Windsor estate in November 2021 when she was 95 years old! Hmmmm.
Vickers is trying to appeal to derangers. Nothing esteemed about him. How convenient for him the queens not around to respond. It is unrealistic that he would go to the queen instead of his chain of command
So All palace staff could run to the queen on a whim
Right? The gardener can get right in to see Lizzie, but Harry had obstacle after obstacle thrown in his way to see her.
If there is even a thread of truth to this (which i doubt), it’s probably something like Archie was just put down for a nap and the lawn outside the cottage was getting mowed. And meghan asked if they could delay mowing that section of the lawn for an hour or two so they could all get some sleep. Cue hysterics.
There’s no threads of truth. It’s weird suggesting it.
They’re using gardener because her show and her new brand involves gardening. That’s the reason. Please don’t even try to mildly justify these bullying, lying asshole. Every single thing is a lie, none of its real. Let’s not even pretend there’s a thread of truth in the lies they spew.
Whooa, @yellowlight, @Peace isn’t trying to justify a lie spewed by the British tabloid press. The best, most effective, lies do have grains of truth in them. That is the British tabloid press’ stock in trade. They take a minor truth, like Meghan speaking to a gardener at Frogmore Cottage, and blowing it up into a bombastic, spiteful, lie. @Peace was just accounting for that underhanded tactic of the Press.
@Yellow Lights — calm down. @Peace is simply offering some innocent conjecture, not justifying lies. We know the palace staff had knives out for Meghan from the get-go because…American, uppity, actress, worked too hard, half black. You know the routine, so the Mail pays some willing staffer to talk sh*t about her and then blows it all out of proportion.
Apologies for snapping. I was in a truck load of physical pain and it had been a loooong day.
However I do think we often give too much credence to the idea that there’s even a touch of truth. I do. We know they blatantly lie. I also think this is because M is all about gardening, farm to table etc, and now they’re dragging gardeners into it.
Wasn’t the queen about 90 years old at that time? But she would just jump in her car and drive wherever to insert herself in any petty drama going on amongst the gardeners or random staff or what have you.. lol yeah sounds really believable..
I think the queen did still drive around Windsor until she was pretty old. My grandma tried to do that too…until we took the keys. That said, no she wasn’t driving around bc of this unbelievably silly sounding story.
We know the queen was driving around the time of H&Ms wedding so her driving is the most believable part about this lol.
I obviously dont think this is true at all and I think the desperation of the press is showing. They can’t attack meghan the way they used to bc she pushes back and its also just overplayed at this point. We get it, she was the biggest bully who ever bullied. can we move on now?
I feel like I even remember a picture of the queen supposedly driving to FC to visit Harry once when he was visiting from California. Or something like that. Maybe I’m wrong. But she often wore a kerchief or something on her head and looked barely able to see over the steering wheel. But yes they’ve overplayed the idea that Meghan was the biggest bully to ever bully. I mean clearly she bullied all those tiny baby ducks to walk by just at her mere presence.
@Jais – There is indeed a report with a photo of the Queen driving herself around the Windsor estate in November 2021 when she was 95 years old!
@Tessa – The only person who had unrestricted access to QEII was Angela Kelly. It would make more sense if it had been reported that this so-called head gardener had spoken to Ms. Kelly rather than the Queen.
‘The head gardener went to complain to the Queen and she told her off because she obviously didn’t like people being rude to staff,’ Mr Vickers told The Sun.
So no one ever told her about her own kids?
How about complaints about Andrew and how she had to pay millions so he could pay off the lawsuit.
How about him screaming at a maid for not arranging his teddy bear collection perfectly. Or how he yelled at a housekeeper to come open some curtains for him when he was perfectly capable of doing it himself?
Exactly. Story after story about all of her children being rude, but none where she scolded any of them for being so. And these were the people she was responsible for raising better. And Phil, he was rude to people in front of her so she had proof. Did she scold him? Or is it only gardeners you can’t be rude to? The general public is fair game? Or maids who don’t place teddy bears correctly are fair game? Or is the point the POC from America isn’t allowed to instruct staff?
I suppose “natural born royal” rudeness is right and proper. Divine mandate and all that.
More likely the head gardener had his nose out of joint that Meghan spoke directly to the under gardener – about anything – instead of directly to him. Must maintain protocol and not allow the under gardener to talk to anyone but his direct superior, and that stuff.
Sounds probable.
Considering that the palace as an entire hierarchy devised entirely to deal with staffing issues – multiple house keepers, staff managers etc – this is not something the Queen would consider was in her “domain” so to speak.
Also. The Queen did not go to Aberfan after the mining accident and the horrific collapse and deaths of almost all of the entire villages children. That was left to the political person who was in the correct position to do so. She released a statement she did not write.
She apparently “learned from that misstep” and yet showed the same level of disconnect after Diana’s death.
I do not think she would even hear of any supposed conversation between Meghan and a gardener let alone think it’s her duty to go yell at Meghan for possibly speaking rudely to a gardener. There are people in place to handle that sort of thing if necessary.
Not that they seemingly ever stepped in when say, Charles attacked and choked his valet.
And she let her dresser buddy AK get away with actual workplace violence.
I approved of her not going to Aberfan straight away, protocol would have been so strict at the time that the men would have to be taken away from the rescue work to welcome the Queen.
How many resurrections is their Queen going to have. Dear lawdt, those folks over there are reeling in insanity territory. All Meghan has to do is to keep living enjoying her life and pretty soon they will have Meghan confronting the recently deceased Pope. Speaks to their desperation re the Wales saga.
I’m pretty sure this is an old story they are trying to bring up again. These stories don’t hit like they used to. It’s just….meh. So many people see this for what it is.
It sounds to me like the queen had a “Karen moment.” Is that the message the Fail is trying to send? What a stupid bullcrap story.
So, Prince Charles and Andrew were allowed to yell at the staff with no repercussions from the Queen, but not the biracial Duchess. The Daily Mail must be starved for content.
I didn’t even read the excerpt. Why bother?
The queen is dead and Meghan has been gone for over five years.. what a ridiculous story to even print. Unless this person actually has verifiable evidence and an actual name it’s pure lies.
IIRC, amidst all of the many “Meghan is a bully” stories, we’ve only been given ONE specific example, ever— that staff members were upset because she emailed them at 8am or something. Which is laughable because in no way can that be construed as “bullying.” Obviously she was messaging them when she had the time/ideas, and wouldn’t have expected immediate replies. I often sent work emails on weekends or late at night, and never expected a response right away. FFS
Since that was the best they could come up with to prove said bullying, it’s obvious that everything else they claim is nonsense too.
@Lorelei, it was a 5:00 am email, and yes, most likely when she had the thought fresh in her mind and I’m sure not expecting a response immediately. I, too have sent an email late night/weekend/early morning when I’m thinking of something that needs to be done and I don’t want to forget, but I have NEVER expected a reply until normal business hours the next business day.
Right. She said something, of which they don’t know know the content that was so horrible that this gardener was able to have a direct line to the Queen(!) to complain. And she then hopped in her Range Rover to come over and yell at Meghan. And somehow he got this direct from someone who didn’t mention this for six years, and who presumably during the whole bullying allegations in 2021 didn’t want to speak up.
Thus is bogus. Of course. But why would the queen jump to the conclusion that Meghan was to blame without speaking to meghan first.
Did we ever hear anything about the Queen driving over to Frogmore? I think that would have been noticed.
If Meghan had actually yelled at an undergardener, my assumption would be that they had been snooping or otherwise somewhere where they weren’t meant to be.
They can’t even write plausible fanfics these days. We have canon (the news reports at the time) and they can’t understand why it’s a problem to not even bother to take that into account.
Can we stop with the ‘even if’ crap? There is no even if. She never has and never would. Please don’t even try to justify their lies and bullying.
It shocking how many times people still want to pretend there’s any truth in the non stop lies.
No need to come down on the poster like this. Some of the worst lies the media has told have been based on a real incident — for example, the “Meghan made Kate cry” one — but with the most important facts purposely falsified and twisted to make it untrue. It’s possible this gardener story was made up of whole cloth, or that it was based on a real encounter but with so many facts changed or left out that it is, in the end, a slander. None of us know which it is, but both options are horrible. Personally I think the latter is even more insidious and manipulative than an entirely made-up scenario, but speculating about that doesn’t let the liars off the hook.
The point that Yellow Light is making is that in its entirety it is a lie that never happened. Them changing parts of any story to fit a narrative, is still a lie. So to play around with what parts might be real or imaginary is just continuing to help spread a lie to attack someone who didn’t do anything wrong. They have lied countless times about Harry and Meghan where there was no truth to the lie that pertains to them, so why play the game. They lied about how they met for years before it was confirmed to be a complete lie. They lied for years claiming that Harry gave William their mother’s cursed ring to give to Kate, when he didn’t even know they were engaged until the rest of the world knew and he never had the ring. They lied and said that William and Harry were each other’s best men at their weddings but that was a complete lie. They lied and said that Meghan was given defensive training as a royal wife when that never happened. They lied and said that they were separated and/or divorced so many times that Harry feels sorry for them because that has never happened. They lied and said that they didn’t talk to the Queen about naming their daughter after her and that they didn’t talk to her and the other royals about wanting to be part time royals long before they stepped back at the beginning of January 2020. The point is that they lie. They lied without there needing to be any level of truth to what they write because they are horrible people who lie for a living. This is the same tabloid sued for wire tapping and unethical means of gathering information about people for decades. Lying for them doesn’t require a sliver of truth.
Chuck and Peg have been known to abuse staff, we have seen Chucks angry reactions towards staff often since his mother passed away. The fact that this article wants people to believe the Queen actually cared about a lowly landscaper is hilarious. I’m sure she didn’t give a 💩 about someone who weeds the flower beds.
This is tickling something at the back of my mind
Wasn’t there a story about Charles screaming at a gardener?
Friendly Crow, yes. He yelled at the gardner at Highgrove.
Please, even the ducks love Meghan.
Perfect. Up the Ducks!! 🦆🦆🦆😎
Meghan is clearly the HRH princess of ducklings. And hummingbirds. And rescued pups. And rescued chickens. I’m just saying she is like those old princess Disney princess cartoons where the animals just follow her along, but with agency. It just makes me laugh. And the Uk royals could not deal.
How many times do you think Prince Charles has berated someone for not having his pen working properly or the shoe laces ironed the way he likes or the correct amount of toothpaste squeezed out and waiting for him to brush his teeth. How many times have staff had to duck William and Kate’s “thrown pillows” during heated arguments.
I’m starting to think this is an alien experiment to test the IQ of humans.
Maybe this is how the get people to forget that the royals are ripping them off 🤷🏽♀️ ….. Spin shit by the minute for the subjects to consume and direct their misery to a fictional story with characters they can love and hate. It’s a way to bring those preposterous childhood fairytales with good and bad characters (kings, queens, princes, princesses, servants, etc.) to life for adult consumption. 🤔
It’s just utterly ridiculous now. Meghan lived there for less than two years with those people and the number of fictitious stories they spin boggles the mind. Imagine if she had lived there for the remainder of her life what it would’ve been like. 😱
Most of the comments vilifying Meghan are either bots or the older, poorly educated segment of the population who were raised to get their news only from tabloids and believe everything they read. Critical thinking not required. I don’t think IQ is the problem, there are so many other factors involved. Hate is contagious where there is no way to hear the truth.
I read that a courtier went to the queen and told her about Charles involvement with married Camilla. This in the late seventies. She said nothing and did not rush to yell at Charles. This story makes no sense.
The Queen knew he loved Camilla, when he was in the Navy he was sent away on some mission with his ship to get him away from her, she wasn’t considered good enough, while he was away Camilla married PB.
If Charles wanted to marry her he could have. He did not force the issue and he did not tell Camilla to wait for him. This is all on Charles. Also, the Queen did nothing when Charles took Camilla (wife of fellow officer Andrew Parker Bowles) on an official tour as “escort.” The Queen did nothing about complaints. Charles alone made these decisions. The Queen would have come around if Charles had Really wanted to marry then single Camilla Shand. And it would depend on if Camilla wanted to give up her then heart’s desire Andrew Parker Bowles in favor of Charles. Charles does not know what love is. Maybe Charles thought Camilla was not good enough to marry and have royal children. Charles could have told Camilla that they had a future before he went to sea. And Camilla pursued APB for years. Camilla was not the only woman in Charles’ life. He came close to marrying Davina Sheffied and he actually proposed to Amanda Knatchbull who turned him down.
Camilla didn’t want to marry Charles. She wanted an affair with him for fun and influence, but she and anne were in direct competition to marry apb.
This portion of the story will likely be quite entertaining to the royal fans who enjoy the entertainment of royal fan fictions from the media “……the late Queen, who then drove over to Meghan to give her a dressing down.” 😮💨
The media is okay creating fan fiction of the royals for financial gain. Many people are okay reading fan fiction of the royals for entertainment 🤷🏽♀️. Win win situation, mutually beneficial arrangement… 🙄
Thank God Meghan is back home in California!!!! Enjoying Montecito and her palatial estate full of sunshine and warmth. The cold rainy froggy cottage is 5000 miles away and becoming more and more a distant memory as time goes by …. 5 years on and counting 🙌
Reminded that the Host of Windsors – the lot of them but perhaps especially Kate and William – were very, very jealous of Meghan’s train outing with Granny, possessed by a monster greener than Granny’s (excellently acidic) bright green coat at the sight of the easy affection between the two of them.
These people really are crazy AF.
I’ll believe this when either gardener can survive questioning by a competent, neutral interviewer, perhaps by a former prosecutor. Let’s hear the substance of this claim.
These fools don’t realize/care about the damage that they are doing by promoting the laughable idea that a gardener had a direct line to Betty Windsor, as though she was the head of palace HR.
Locked himself in a shed and wept for three days 🤣🤣
This is so outrageous. Meghan is not a rude person. It’s not her vibe. I’m sure the woman isn’t perfect but rude behaviour towards others is not the way her quirks lean. If someone said she tried a little too hard to please – yes, I could believe that. Shouting and rudeness and reducing people to tears – hard nope.
Told her off? What kind of white trash 70s phrasing is that?
Jane, it’s amazingly common. As a Yank in the UK, I used to think it was quaint and vaguely adorable, like a bit of slang from Fagin’s gang. But… it’s too often a substitute for rational consequences, or, it’s incorrectly used as a kind of get-out-of-remonstration-free card, as a kind of deflection. An example: I used to take my son to a playground every day when he was a wee nursery boy after I picked him up. It was in a leafy, residential area. One day I arrived to find a whole family of Travellers with an open flame having a barbecue at the edge of the space, just beyond the fence, in the park. Despite about a million signs proclaiming no fires. I felt like a Karen but I phoned the Parks police and told them it didn’t seem dangerous so much as…. Odd. Just so odd. I had never called “the authorities” before but a policeman showed up in about 5 minutes really put out (another brilliant phrase) and urged me to clear off (not his words, but I love the lingua franca) with my son so he could “give them a proper telling-off.” This nearly cracked me up but he couldn’t have been kinder or more in earnest. The problem is, it’s hard to read between the lines. Either this is euphemism for knocking the crap out of someone (in this case, no), or, it’s the type of conversation that reads as milquetoast to all involved because it has to substitute for what everyone acknowledges really should be a spot of fisticuffs (more lingo). A telling-off is a watered-down version of a set piece encounter in which violence is no longer a good look (more Britspeak) …so people tend to invoke the notion of a “telling off” when they either feel they’ve been chewed out unfairly, or, they’d like to really give someone a spanking, but, aren’t allowed. I find a lot of the local lingo has a kind of pitched vibrato — like, a phrase, or an expression will be used as a placeholder to suggest what might have gone down, but with the provision that much must be left to the imagination of those hearing out the raconteur. It implies a certain amount of narrative license, owing to the relative nature of perspective. A “telling off” might be an encounter perceived as punitive by one party and insufficiently rigorous by another. Hence, to anyone without a stake in the set-to (yet another priceless phrase), it holds out the prospect that the entire drama is comical, not to be taken seriously. So sorry this was long-winded. I find it fascinating.
British English changes more quickly than American English, apparently 300 years ago we used to speak the same language.
@Jane — Ummm, it’s not a white trash 70’s phrase, I don’t know where on earth you got that ridiculous idea. We use it in Canada all the time. It’s similar to giving someone a “tongue-lashing” or “ripping a strip off them”. Lesson over!
Its also used commonly in the US, at the very least the northeast. (millenial here)
A tall tale.
Queen E was accessible to head gardener but Harry could not meet up with her despite making appointment.
Queen E always around to school Meghan but never around to school Princess Margaret, Princess Ann Prince Andrew and Charles and their tempers.
Yes and how about the members of the media that got sworn at by Charles (whose “asides” to his sons were caught on the microphone. They should have run to the Queen.
Ok a few months ago this same story or something very similar was used to say Meghan chewed out a florist. I remember a few years ago the tabloids over there were going on about Meghan being demanding about the wedding menu at a tasting or something and apparently the Queen berated her then about how she supposedly talked to staff. This is so recycled it’s also comical. In what context would she even be interacting with some gardener that she’s yelling at them? Was she supervising them, did they make too much noise outside her window while she’s on the phone? This is silly and it’s been so many years now. The fact they even mention the Queen is pathetic.
I was going to say this is the exact same story that they tried to tell about Meghan “yelling” at the kitchen staff and suddenly the queen shows up to give Meghan a reprimand. I guess only the Queen’s children are allowed to correct staff, right up to including physical assault in the case of Andrew. It seems that Hugo Vickers has forgotten about all the stories of how Andrew and Charles are terrible to the people that work for them. Otherwise, why would he be so stupid as to try and pull this off? Unless of course, he thinks his readers are dumb enough to believe this.
DM readers will believe it because that is what they want to believe.
I am fed up with the unmitigated BS that Meg spent her brief stint at the Firm SHOUTING, SHOVING and SuLKING which sounds more like KC, FK and Andrew. Andrew bellowed at a servant when just in underwear that he’d couldn’t find his socks!! Meg’s Instagram is showing her true lovely self plus her joyous cookery show. She’s happily married has a good circle of friends who have been loyal for years. She has some lovely family who have never betrayed her.Yet the tabs and RR want to portray her as the “bullying other who bewitched her prince.” Current fantasy story is more malicious besmirching of a WoC who is the victim of a sustained and unending bullying.
Names of these gardeners?
And Hugo wants us to believe the Queen would involve herself in something so petty? Must protect the gardeners from the bossy American!
Hugo needs to stop lying. But he won’t, so he’s just another unreliable whatever royal adjacent irrelevant person.
Provide names Hugo, provide names. Then witness statements thanks as this is all made-up hearsay. Stop using the loved memory of QE2 to justify your hate against Meghan. So unbecoming and reflects poorly on you and your feudal masters.
The queen don’t come to you, you are summoned to the queen.
Yes, the Queen is so not busy that she has time to deal with petty disputes and soothe the egos of her gardeners.
Can’t believe Hugo just said that QE2 bent for Meghan. What an idiot.
So….the 90 year old queen jumped into a car and drove to frogmore cottage to give Meghan a piece of her mind. A likely story. Look, upper class people deploy stealth punishments enacted through a network of minions to do their bidding, leak info or send a message. Come on, do better with the fictionalizing!
I wish they’d just leave Meghan the hell alone. Enough with these obviously fake stories.
There are so many holes in this tale it could be swiss cheese. The desperation reaks. Rota: report the actual story. WIlly, future king of England and head of the Church of England, couldn’t sober up long enough to stop trimming rosebushes and spend an hour with his children, extended family or father during a high Christian holiday.
One of the biggest wholes is the timeline. Meghan and Harry didn’t move to FC until just before Archie’s birth in May 2019. They went on tour to South Africa when he was around four months old and they went to Canada around Thanksgiving of that year (November) and were mostly in Canada until the new year and she returned shortly for a few engagements in March of 2020. They weren’t in FC that often during the timeframe they give and the Queen was in Balmoral during most of that timeframe as well. They wrote an article shortly after they moved to FC where they accused Harry and Meghan of forcing people to park in a certain location and not be allowed on a walking trail of something along those lines. It was later revealed that the article was a complete lie and never happened. They maintained a close relationship with the Queen and Phillip even when they moved to the states, which is another whole to this story.
Maybe Meghan offered the gardener sun tea because he was working and it was hot out . and being British he was offended because how dare an American offer me tea , and ice tea at that / summon the queen. She must come over here and scold this tea charlatan for destroying tee for all us Brits
The lies will become more fanciful as Meghan’s star continues to rise. Next we’ll hear how Meg spat contemptuously on Prince Phillip’s impeccable shoes and how she kicked the queen’s favorite Corgi. Eventually there will be reports of how Meghan slapped the queen’s face and threw priceless artwork against BP’s walls. One wouldn’t think it can get any more ridiculous, yet…
It’s all so tiresome and racist. As a Black American, it seems pretty obvious how eagerly the tabloid readers consume any filthy lie about her and it informs my travel choices. I can’t spend a dime in any country where harassing and maligning a biracial person is a lucrative business and national pastime.
Beverley, I completely and utterly co-sign this as a Caucasian American living in London. I always thought a lot of the animus toward Meghan (given I moved here about a decade before she did and watched it all unfold in real time) was attributable to her being American, or at least, not British and not Commonwealth — that is, Empire-descended. They have this fond way of folding us into their orbit, with a big arm, like, come here, you old so and so, but it’s a bit of an odd one, Americans usually lap this up, but it’s very much a man to man thing. It’s a gentleman’s club vibe. With women… it’s complicated. Somehow, so complicated. I think 50% of the animosity is being female and American at the same time. We don’t do the hail-fellow-well-met thing. And we don’t do the kind of oh-little-old-me submissive (or mock submissive) thing that British women tend to do. That said, racism did not leap out at me until the funeral of QEII at which it really hit me full on. I could just not imagine Kate strutting and lunging that way at another white woman. Ignoring her? Sure. Blanking her? Sure. But… it’s the nuances. There’s an extra edge to it with Meghan, like, an extra sneer. Later, the bit about the Royal Racists came out. And it was like…. Right. We weren’t imagining it. JFC. That being said, there’s an expression here, “they’re like Marmite,” meaning, you love them or you loathe them. I think by now they’re Kryptonite. William and Charles have the same impact on the UK’s reputation that Trump has on the US. Ick. Ick. Ick.
I read that the Queen gave Meghan a dressing GOWN; made me wonder if Meghan had come out in more casual clothes than ‘one’ might be used to? LOL I’m cracking myself up just thinking about it. Meghan, wearing jean shorts and a t-shirt with appropriate undergarments, went outside. The gardener thought she was underdressed so went running to the Queen, who then went rummaging through her closet, jumped in her car and delivered to Meghan a dressing gown.
Makes just as much sense as their story, honestly! LOL all day long.
LOL
@Gail Hirst: love this! Your version is much better. It puts me in mind of this old favorite —
The King’s Breakfast
The King asked
The Queen, and
The Queen asked
The Dairymaid:
“Could we have some butter for
The Royal slice of bread?”
The Queen asked the Dairymaid,
The Dairymaid
Said, “Certainly,
I’ll go and tell the cow
Now
Before she goes to bed.”
The Dairymaid
She curtsied,
And went and told
The Alderney:
“Don’t forget the butter for
The Royal slice of bread.”
The Alderney
Said sleepily:
“You’d better tell
His Majesty
That many people nowadays
Like marmalade
Instead.”
The Dairymaid
Said, “Fancy!”
And went to
Her Majesty.
She curtsied to the Queen, and
She turned a little red:
“Excuse me,
Your Majesty,
For taking of
The liberty,
But marmalade is tasty, if
It’s very
Thickly
Spread.”
The Queen said
“Oh!:
And went to
His Majesty:
“Talking of the butter for
The royal slice of bread,
Many people
Think that
Marmalade
Is nicer.
Would you like to try a little
Marmalade
Instead?”
The King said,
“Bother!”
And then he said,
“Oh, deary me!”
The King sobbed, “Oh, deary me!”
And went back to bed.
“Nobody,”
He whimpered,
“Could call me
A fussy man;
I only want
A little bit
Of butter for
My bread!”
The Queen said,
“There, there!”
And went to
The Dairymaid.
The Dairymaid
Said, “There, there!”
And went to the shed.
The cow said,
“There, there!
I didn’t really
Mean it;
Here’s milk for his porringer,
And butter for his bread.”
The Queen took
The butter
And brought it to
His Majesty;
The King said,
“Butter, eh?”
And bounced out of bed.
“Nobody,” he said,
As he kissed her
Tenderly,
“Nobody,” he said,
As he slid down the banisters,
“Nobody,
My darling,
Could call me
A fussy man –
BUT
I do like a little bit of butter to my bread!”
~ A.A. Milne
Wonderful !
Thank you for sharing.
What did she actually do the under gardener and did the head gardener complain to the Queen when the white members of the royal family were rude to him? And how was the Head Gardener able to see the Queen when her own grandson was able to visit her?
Can you imagine how horribly WanK treat their staff? Especially if Slumlord Bill has his drink on?
We don’t have to imagine. One of those sycophant books, (it might have been written by Tina Brown) talked about how William was known for bitching out the staff. But of course he would always apologize later. Sure, Jan.
Kate is known to scream at staff too
Oh dear, next it will be one of the Queen’s horses snorted when Meghan walked by.
🤣🤣🤣 Or worse. “Frau Blucher!” 🤣 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Frankenstein
https://www.womanandhome.com/life/royal-news/prince-andrews-over-the-top-reaction-as-he-lashed-out-at-female-employee-weeks-after-being-served-virginia-giuffre-writ/
Prince Andrew shouted at female gardener over saplings she hadn’t cut down. He was in a hot and cold sweat due to VG court papers being served on him.
“The shocking allegation is one of number of complaints lodged against the Duke and Duchess of Sussex which claims they are difficult to work with and often bully members of staff.”
Is this a recent story? This story claims Meghan “is” difficult to work with often bully members of staff and not “was” difficult to work with and often *bullied* members of staff.
This story presents as if Meghan is currently attacking royal staff members instead of telling what happened 5 and a half years ago.
It’s just more silly rubbish from silly people.
Let’s say the story is true. Then why aren’t people over there glad she’s gone? Why keep writing about her? Why does she take up so much head space? If I am around a toxic person, I try to keep away, stay away and not give that person a second thought. This obsession gives me the creeps, quite frankly.
A queen rushing angrily to her grandson’s wife to berate her for the nameless treatment of an assistant gardener? Even a queen is not immune to the misogynistic, ridiculous xanthippic ideas of these XY types.
Completely unbelievable
“Honestly, your majesty. I don’t know what happened. I was wandering in the garden, gathering herbs for an omelette and I found Jason Knauf hiding in the hedges, taking notes in a steno pad. Odd, I thought, but he does work for us so I decided to make small talk.
“I pointed to some freshly blooming flowers and said ‘I think that Rose is William’s favorite.
“To my surprise he burst into tears before shouting ‘You bitch!’ and running off to tattle.”
Yes. Whatever happened to keep calm and carry on? Are the people that work for the royal family really this soft? I feel like these stories are true but about other members of the family. Like does anyone honestly think that KFC or other family members aren’t bratty around staff? So the staff probably sells their stories to make up for the pittance they are paid and have to sign something saying it was Meghan when it was really Charles, William, etc.
It was reported by the media that Charles used a megaphone to order his workers around.
Bull to the shit. Never happened. Lying liars will lie. Period.
I was going to say the same thing. Even after QE2 has past away for a couple years now and M hasn’t stepped foot in that salty island for years, they’re still at it. 🙄
It feels like they’ve all read morrigan crow by jessica townsend and are following that playbook. No matter what happened or when or how it was made up? some idiot will blame it on hrh duchess of sussex.