TMZ has yet another pro-Mel story, although in theory it could be a pro-Oksana story. According to their sources, Oksana believes that Mel was cheating on her with four other women while she and Mel were together. Oksana wants to ask these women if Mel ever abused them – and TMZ notes that they have “no evidence” that Mel ever cheated, or that Mel was ever abusive. Right. Oh, I wonder if one of the four women was that Violet woman? The “Polish porn producer” who gave a few interviews about how she and Mel were boning while he and Oksana were together?
Oksana Grigorieva believes Mel Gibson was cheating on her with multiple women during their relationship — and now she wants to take it a step further and ask the women if the actor ever attacked them … in an effort to prove Mel is too violent to be around their daughter.
TMZ knows of no evidence Mel had relations with any women while he was with Oksana much less any evidence he was violent.
Nevertheless, Oksana’s attorney, Dan Horowitz, tells TMZ his team has hired an investigator to track down at least four women whom Oksana believes may have had secret relations with Mel.
We’re told Oksana’s team wants someone to come forward and say Mel was violent toward them. The end game for Oksana — trying to prove Mel is far too dangerous to be around 1-year-old Lucia.
The judge in the custody case has been unmoved by Oksana’s arguments to date and has given Mel full visitation rights.
And get this … Horowitz tells TMZ he’s provided a soundtrack to keep his investigator motivated … complete with the song, “Looking for Love In All the Wrong Places.”
[From TMZ]
Eh. Do I think Mel was faithful to Oksana while they were together? Nope. But I think Mel’s faithfulness was the least of Oksana’s worries, you know? I mean, I understand the crux of this story – that Oksana would like to hear from any other woman that Mel abused. I’m sure they’re out there. I’m just not so sure they’re going to speak up.
How is she gonna track them down? Call in a private ‘dick’ and have Mel’s weenie dusted for prints? Call P.S.I. (Penis Scene investigation) and look for traces of collagen? That man is so smarmy and yet 4 other women were willing to….yeesh, they don’t call it a job for nothing.
“Jacuzzie Bj’s”
As soon as I can stop laughing I’m going to scroll up and read the article.
Agree that Mel likely cheated, and who knows what else. But any ‘other women’ will have been very well paid to remain silent. It is truly a shame that Oksana undermined her own credibility by entering into financial negotiations with the creep while allowing him full access to the child until talks broke down. The whole thing is so sad.
Just another money hungry wh…! She’s done this before so it shouldn’t come as a surprise. She’s changed her story so many times she’s not even credible. And like I’ve said Mel isn’t a saint either, he has a temper verbally no doubt. But being physically abusive I don’t buy. I wasn’t there but things just don’t add up. Just saying he’s no doubt a woman beater is just your opinion as I have my own also. Still I would love to know what was said before the recorder started. Something has to be said for that kind of reaction. I was in an abusive relationship for five years, I lived it and just don’t find Oksana as being truthful.
@Stronzilla
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LMAO. That was creative.
This is supposed to be a custody fight, right? Best interests of the child?
Whatever the truth, Lucia’s interests are not being served. Oksana better be careful about overt parental alienation or the judge will give Mel primary custody.
@teri: Something has to be said for that kind of reaction. I was in an abusive relationship for five years
with the very greatest respect, the juxtaposition of those two sentences makes me wince. in an abusive situation, nothing is needed to set off that kind of reaction. or are you saying that for the five years of your abusive relationship, you always said something that legitimately set him off?
In my eyes, she is no better than Gibson.
“Still I would love to know what was said before the recorder started. Something has to be said for that kind of reaction.”
yeah, usually it’s “I don’t have dinner ready yet” or “hello”.
I beleive Mel has been cheating with multiple women for years even during the first years with Robin.
I beleive he was always sexist, machistic and verbally agressive if not abusive.
Getting older and more successful has just given him more freedom to let it lose and to become more violent with a sense of immunity attached to his superstar status.
He is a crazy UNAPOLOGETIC arrogant and violent man.
@ Praise St. Angie! ~ that made me LOL!
King of the hot tub BJs-what a loser. I kind of doubt there’s another “abused woman” out there-too much money at Radar et al to be made to keep that quiet.
LOL @ Praise 🙂
That headline made me wonder what passes for communion in Mel’s church.
Teri
‘money hungry wh0re’ is pretty strong language, especially coming from someone who was abused herself.
Have a little compassion. Unfortunately, a lot of hollywood relationships are based upon trading youth and beauty for money and power. Neither is really all that good for relationships, and shit like this happens.
I don’t think it makes octosan a whore, nor does she deserve to be beaten.
I am in no way defending either one of them but we are only hearing part of the stories that are out there, we aren’t hearing what REALLY happened so who are we to judge???
To Bizzy,
@teri: Something has to be said for that kind of reaction. I was in an abusive relationship for five years
with the very greatest respect, the juxtaposition of those two sentences makes me wince. in an abusive situation, nothing is needed to set off that kind of reaction. or are you saying that for the five years of your abusive relationship, you always said something that legitimately set him off?
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I can’t say I was there to witness what took place, neither were you. I’m basing my opinion on Oksana changing her story multiple times. Things don’t add up. Mels outburst on the phone (IMO only) I think there’s more to what was chosen to be recorded.
I’m not totally innocent I knew pushing my ex buttons would result in verbal confrontation. When verbal turned into physical abuse such as beating me and I stabbed him. Yes I attacked him back. Not sure why I am explaing myself but everything Oksana is saying usually changes within days. If you are a victim your story doesn’t keep changing. I’ve said from the beginning Mel is verbally abusive not physically from what I’ve heard and read. I don’t condone violence, Oksana is flip flopping all over the place. I’m not automatically going to side with Oksana because I was in an abusive relationship.
Thank you Teri, I agree! Something just isnt right.
She just wants to know the dirty on these other women.
I am so done with this lady!!!!
What makes Oksana so credible? Last time I commented on another Oksana thread people attacked me also. Not one to start a war of words with other unknowns on a gossip site but everyone is entitled to their say. Just disagree, but attacking one for their opinions is silly. I should have left off the wh…, she’s still IMO seeking millions to live a life of luxery and in return trying to ruin Mels relationship with his daughter.
NEW story. I mean yes he has money and yes he is famous BUT, the judge would not let a baby see someone who would hurt them if they thought so.
“TMZ knows of no evidence Mel had relations with any women while he was with Oksana much less any evidence he was violent.”
So TMZ doesn’t know about the porn star who said she had sex with Mel and he left violent voicemessages (she was on a couple of gossip sites then disappeared). And TMZ didn’t listen to the tapes where Mel ADMITTED to hitting Oksana?
How much is Mel paying TMZ?
Icantbelievethis,
Where can we listen to the tapes where Mel admitted to hitting Oksana? What porn star are you referring to? I’m sure there’s a trail where we can back track what she said? I don’t think Harvey could be paid off but I don’t know him personally.
recalling the records when she was telling him your god , its ok , your the best its ok blah blah ,,, now she says hes cheating and abusing others .
mel has aprobleme and we know he needs te ceck himself but wat she is doing and planing is really lowlife manner .
i can see by her calm mean ways she might drive me crazy too , she is not clear woman and full of games.
ive always hated snake like people.
She is trying to protect her baby from a raging abuser so is using everthing in her arsenal. I do not understand how a judge can grant Mel full visitation with the domestic violence & extortion investigations still ongoing.
@teri Radar Online has the tapes. Tapes where he admitted to hitting her and threatened to bury her in the rose garden.
Violet Kowal was the porn star. I don’t know if I can put a link here but I googled ‘mel gibson porn star’. She said she slept with him while Oksana was pregnant.
@ Teri:
It sounds like one of two scenarios caused the comment. Either a) You’ve added the “abusive relationship” comment to give your comment creditability. If this is the case, I think you need to consider the weight and impact of your words. They basically say, “Something caused this action. The abuse cycle was not perpetuated by the abuser. Or b) You’ve not truly come to terms with your own abuse. If you had, you would realize that the abuse cycle is not perpetuated by the victim-the victim is just that-a victim. You don’t “cause” abuse-you experience it, you suffer from it. To quote Good Will Hunting: It was not your fault. Every individual, abusers included, are responsible for their own actions.
Well said PrettyTarheel.
Sounds like she’s not doing well in the custody case, so she has to come up with something else. This has been the cycle. When the press dies down, she comes forward with something else to turn the spotlight back on her and turn a few more screws into Mel. (one call, then others, then voice mails, then emails, letters, interviews to the paps and now this. Hell hath no fury indeed.
She is disgusting and she is absolutely trying to destroy the little girl’s relationship with her father and get a few sacks full of his cash. I’m sure he did hit her, but she is no saint, nor is she a poor innocent victim. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
“She is disgusting and she is absolutely trying to destroy the little girl’s relationship with her father and get a few sacks full of his cash. I’m sure he did hit her, but she is no saint, nor is she a poor innocent victim. Not by any stretch of the imagination.”
The second he hit her mother, HE destroyed any chance of a relationship he might have had with his daughter. Especially since he shows absolutely no remorse. Your take on this is truly mind boggling and twisted. MEL hit – HE did it. HE did this. HE is responsible for his own actions. Why do some people not get this??
Do you really think it is OK to hit someone if they say something bad enough to you?? I’ve got news for you. It’s not.
“Why do some people not get this??”
I wonder why some people aren’t getting that people who don’t support Oksana do not necessarily support Mel. Nowhere did I say she is responsible for him hitting her. Nowhere. However, she is responsible for the constant media leaks and extortion that will do far more damage to her daughter. I feel truly sorry for that poor little girl having to witness this never ending game of revenge and playing it all out in public to Radar and TMZ. That is a horrible way to grow up and she will be screwed up growing up with a hate filled woman that spews forth on a weekly basis. That is just as toxic as Mel to the child. One being wrong does NOT make the other right. Both can be wrong. Why do some people not get this?
I am sorry but if Mel did hit Oksana, then she is a victim. Trying to give some kind of coloration to the victimhood, like the ‘she is no poor innocent victim’ is disgusting and doesn’t make sense at all.
You are the victim of your attacker/abuser if you are hit/raped/attacked. Your own pedigree is irrelevant to your victim status and doesn’t lessen by any means the crime in itself.
Your attacker, your abuser is still the criminal practicing the violent act unto you without any regard about your kids, including the one you share.
There is no category of victims which makes a victim more or less victim based on the victim pedigree. It’s totally uncalled for to even suggest that. It’s implying that because her pedigree isn’t clean enough, she is less of a victim of that specific violent act, lessening the dangerosity and villest of the act in itself because of the victim so so pedigree.
And I am sorry, she is no killer, no despot, nor child moelstor, no drug dealer…whatever her pedigree what she may have done is absolutely tiny in terms of dangerosity or criminality to justify any violence done towards her.
And another thing, no REAL man will go on and on trashing the mother of his child, the son of his partner and then pretend to love his daughter.
If he does love is daughter, he would at least show a minimum of respect for the woman who carried his baby, gave half the genes and would have not insulted his own daughter when he yelled that he was disgusted that Oksana was her mother…something she woill probably hhear one day.
This alone is unacceptable and abusive and makes him preemptively dangerous to that child. He is the kind who may hit his daughter as she’s growing, saying that she is like her mother as he has shown all the disgust and despise to everything that is Oksana, including using derofgatory and sexual connotation to her son, his daughter’s own sibling !
You just don’t spew hatred to a woman and expect to have a SANE relationship with the child of that woman period, not to mention all the damage he has done already to those children with his step son insulted and despised by him and a daughter, his half sister despised by proxy because of the Oksana genes that runs through her veins.
He is pure vile.
To each their own opinion. But I cannot endorse that one abusive partner automatically confers a halo on the other and automatically justifies any behavior. No, I don’t believe Oks had it coming or deserved it, asked for it etc. And no, I don’t believe that even if the most extreme allegations are true that severing all paternal rights is correct or that support depends on the abuse issue.
If there was abuse by HER definition, Oks should sue his rear-that’s her money.
Haven’t we all done this too many times?
Very well put nnn.
@Whatever: Why don’t you try actually replying to my point instead of to one sentence taken out of context? Oh that’s right. Because you can’t.
@Whatever: Why don’t you try actually replying to my point instead of to one sentence taken out of context? Oh that’s right. Because you can’t.
Um yeah I can. I didn’t because it made no sense and had nothing whatsoever to do with my comments, as I stated in my reply. For example, this was out of the blue, “Do you really think it is OK to hit someone if they say something bad enough to you?? I’ve got news for you. It’s not.”
NOWHERE did I say he was right for hitting her, or that she made him do it or that she was responsible for being hit. He is obviously responsible for that, just as SHE is responsible for the extortion, media leaks, using the baby as a weapon for revenge and financial gain and the never ending public revenge show. Both are vile.
@Whatever: “I’m sure he did hit her, but she is no saint, nor is she a poor innocent victim.”
Read nnn’s excellent post explaining that there are no qualifiers for victimization. You either are a victim or you are not. Either he hit her and she is a victim, or he didn’t hit her and she is not. It makes absolutely no sense to say he hit her, but she is not a victim.
How exactly did Mel “cheat” on Oksana? He’s “cheated” on only one woman, his wife Robyn, to whom he’s still legally married. Oksana can’t seem to get it through her head that she was Mel’s mistress, not a wife, fiancee or girlfriend in a monogamous relationship. I remember last year while she was promoting her make believe “music career” she stated in an interview that Mel was loyal and true and would never cheat on her. She also gushed about what a terrific father he was, both before and after the baby was born. Oksana had nothing bad to say about Mel while he paid her bills and let her share his celebrity lifestyle. All the allegations began after he dumped her. She is a compulsive liar.
@Whatever…I agree with your comments 100%, and you hit the nail on the head when you said that Oksana is “…using the baby for revenge and financial gain…”
It makes absolutely no sense to say he hit her, but she is not a victim.
I didn’t say she is not a victim, I said she is not a little INNOCENT victim, meaning she is not innocent in the ongoing drama, in fact, she is the CAUSE of the ongoing drama and probably 99% of the leaks. I just disagree that a punch in the face will excuse the next 18 years of this revenge behavior. Again, BOTH are wrong. That is where we differ. While we both think Mel is wrong, we will just have to disagree on Oksana’s virtue.
@Whatever, if you don’t wish to be misunderstood, you should be more careful how you word your sentences. Because you clearly stated that Oksana is not a victim and now you are back tracking. And naturally I completely disagree with your assessment that she is using the child for financial gain. I think she fears for the child’s life, and with good cause. A mother in her position should use every weapon and every tool at her disposal IMO. I can’t imagine having to let my helpless baby go with a man who had hit me while I was holding that child showing complete disregard for the child herself in the process, and who also threatened to bury me in the rose garden.
But I don’t suppose you let facts get in the way of your conjecture.
@Whatever: “she is the CAUSE of the ongoing drama”
Umm…no. Mel is the one who caused the drama. Oksana even stayed with him trying to keep a lid on it and hoping for the best long after he started being abusive.
Another story from a wanna be.
She stated Mel would never cheat on her, Said that in many interviews.
I guess the other woman she is referring to must be her mother sister and grand mother!
Really and why is any body meant to believe a word that comes out of that mouth???
Differing story’s from day 1, every time she opens her mouth she digs a bigger hole.
She is up shit creek with out a paddle
and she knows it
Debbie
To date, we have no evidence of domestic violence. We have heard altered recordings and questionable pictures. To state, even in a comments section, there was definite abuse is wrong.
All we do know is that Oksana or someone close to her is responsible for the many media leaks. Mr. Gibson’s team has maintained “radio silence” throughout this saga.
It appears to me that regardless of what transpired between Mel and Oksana, SHE is the abuser now. SHE is being investigated for extortion. HE has not had his visitation limited by the judge. Unless this occurs, it appears he poses no risk to his child.
How can anyone be labeled a “cheater” if they are not in a monogamous relationship?
It appears to me that regardless of what transpired between Mel and Oksana, SHE is the abuser now.
I think this is true. She has turned the tables and is just as abusive in this campaign to ruin him. The constant leaks, adding and embellishing the story and throwing out new allegations constantly is getting a little sickening. It also appears that she, not Mel is using the courts in an abusive manner. I read that all her former lawyers want a grand total of $18 mil and counting for well over 20 lawyers. That needs to be stopped. The judge needs to tell her to pay her shady lawyers out of the $20k per month spending money that she is getting. The fact that so many good lawyers quit the case or were fired says a lot about her. It really does.
And I’m sorry, but getting a punch in the face (however vile) does not justify and give her a free pass for her continued bad behavior. I know people disagree and think that past abuse excuses all current and future bad behavior and that you can never criticize the victim, I disagree. She is responsible for her enormous part in this mess.
I wish some of the (clearly) delusional people on this board were blowing him (remember, before the jacuzzi!!!) instead of posting ridiculous, nonsense crap here.
She is the victim. He is the abuser in their story. The end.
Eve,
I presume you are counting ,me as a delusional person when I state we do not know if Mel Gibson is actually an abuser. We DO KNOW the authorities are investigating her for possible extortion. Although the sheriff’s department has concluded its investigation, the DA has not decided whether or not to proceed with bringing domestic violence charges against Gibson. What we DO KNOW is that Oksana Gorieva has changed her public story numerous times. We do know she is using the court system as a bully pulpit. She has brought a private matter public and in so doing is having a terrible time keeping all her stories straight.
Laughing.Out.Loud @ the delusional folks who are still clinging to the notion that Mel Gibson is not abusive!
Luckily Mel hung himself quite tidily on that count – both the physical and the psychological, and hasn’t even attempted to deny it.