Brad Pitt loves a good boatneck. Isn’t that interesting? I mean, it’s not as fascinating as, say, learning exactly what Brad says when he talks dirty to Angelina, but it’s a strange and unique enough preference that I’m intrigued. In an interview with the chief creative officer of BCBG, some Brangelina gossip came up. When Angelina came in for a fitting – this would have been in 2009, when Angelina wore this BCBG jewel-toned sack dress, which I believe is the last time Angelina wore the label – she had Brad make the final choice on her dress. This in and of itself is not shocking. Angelina has little to no style. I think if someone (Brad, her stylist) didn’t pick junk out for her, she would just wander around in black leather sacks (and awesome coats, her only consistently good style choice) forever and ever. So, Brad gets the final choice on a dress, and Brad likes his bitch in a boatneck:
Lubov Azria, chief creative officer of BCBGMaxAzriaGroup, shared this tidbit when asked to share one of her best moments in her long career in fashion.
“We were going to dress Angelina Jolie and we had a choice of three gowns with us. When we got there, she said she wanted Brad to pick,” she said. With other celebrities, “there’s usually a staff of 10 people who all have an opinion. He was very decisive. He’s an architect and likes geometric things. He chose the dress that everyone thought was backwards, and it was. He likes boatnecks — that’s all she wears.”
[From Styleist]
Angelina looks okay in boatnecks, but I prefer her when she’s popping some cleavage, at least for her red carpet looks. Angelina looks better in V-necks, in my opinion. If I was dressing her (please, please, let me, Angelina), I would put her in more v-necks. And jewel tones. And no more satin hammer pants and Dynasty gear and sleeve-gloves. If only…
Here are more photos of Angelina in the backwards, boatneck dress. Thanks to LaineyGossip for the story!
Photos courtesy of WENN.
He probably just liked that dress because it actually makes her look like she has some meat on her bones.
Ugh, she dresses too frumpy…Helen Mirren dresses cooler than she does, take tips from her!
I didn’t think it was this dress, but sure enough, it is! Funny, her stylist explained the choice to wear that dress backwards by saying they wanted to make it “more blouson” and to show off her tattoos.
I hate boatneck anything. I don’t find it flattering on anyone.
well that explains her style going to hell shortly after hooking up with him.
Free at last, free at last. Thank God almighty, free at last.
The AJ-Jen thing has finally been put to bed (not literally you understand). For five years their supporters have been tearing each other apart but only now do we discover why Brad and AJ hooked up. Jen has obviously found closure (see thread “Jen’s moved on”) because she doesn’t care for the same style of boatnecks.
Who would have thought soul-mates could have discovered one another in a boatneck? Let us all join hands for Boatneck-Thursaday.
if the dress is truly being worn backwards i don’t understand why the zipper is on the “front” and why the hem would be longer in the “front”.
and why make a dress that exposes the entire chest?
weird.
the hair is horrible from straight on.
she’s not edgy imo.
making out with your brother is gross, not cool.
oh, and she does not exclusively wear boatnecks. such bs.
She doesnt have to dress like lady Gaga but I would love to see her at least try!
I hate boatnecks. No, it isn’t because of Jolie, before I get jumped on. I just happen to think they are unflattering, and a bit hillbilly in style. That is just my opinion.
I love these two together and AJ can pull off a bag like no other in the universe
2 minute hair and 2 minute makeup? I guess she really does have alot of kids
@devilgirl
Now you have to worry about getting “jumped on” by those hillbillies. (Deliverance)
@Rita we’ve got to make Boatneck Thursday happen.
@Rita- I live among many, and I have survived thus far. Summertime is boatneck/clam digger heaven around my neck of the woods.
I, myself, like a good boatneck from time to time, to mix it up with my plethora of v-necks.
boatneck tops rarely flatter anyone.
Jolie has boobies so she should sport the v-necks to show ’em off. no matter how skinny she gets, she still has the boobs – flaunt ’em, girl.
and I LOVE the color on that dress. The dress itself is fug, but the color is very pretty.
For some reason, boatnecks remind me of Lands’ End waspy wear.
That dress reminds me of what my mother wore at my wedding 10 years ago. Except it looked great on my mom.
That mustache is far more hideous than any garment AJ could be wearing
Brad looks like Howard Hughes there, and that’s not a compliment.
I have one boatneck shirt that I do believe is about 25 years old. I do love it, though, although I’m usually a v-neck girl.
@Rita LOL!!!! Too funny!!
I love how Angelina calls Brad “an Architect”, he didn’t go to school for it and it’s not his career. She can say “he has the eye of an architect”. Sorry, it’s insulting to those of us that are trained.
I dont mind the look its somewhat Chanel. I think Coco had that same dress in navy.
Maybe Brad likes boatnecks because they’re more demure. Many men don’t want the women they love showing half their chest in plunging necklines. Now many do, but many men prefer they’re wives or girlfriends err on the side of covering up. I think Ange has lovely collar bones and looks nice with a wide boatneck verses a higher one. If nothing else, she deferred to him when she didn’t obviously have to so that was nice of her.
Wow he really wants her looking frumpy!
I didn’t like that dress at all, but I remember seeing a photo of Brad looking at her in that dress like he wanted to eat her up.
@Molly: it’s called building a guy’s ego. She says it to make him feel good.
Erm, could you avoid using the word ‘bitch’ as if it were synonymous with ‘woman’, please? This site is usually so good about equal opportunity stuff. I found the headline pretty jarring.
I love a good boatneck too.
Kaiser-
Referring to the mother of Brad’s children as his “bitch” is extremely disrespectful. Moreover, calling any female a bitch casually is degrading and in poor taste.
@Iris
Girl, you on the wrong site for “bitch etiquette” but stick around, you’ll get the hang of it.
@devilgirl
Loved your boatneck tie in with “neck of the woods”. (neck tie, get it…never mind)
I hate that dress, you are so right, Angie has no style, but she is my futrue wife. Here in DC we are allowed to Marry,, sorry Brad
I had to google “boatneck” because all of a sudden I was really worried about it. And I have learned that I like a boatneck, if it’s on a long-sleeved shirt. Yeah, it’s a little WASPy, but I think it looks okay. I don’t like shit that’s all up close to my neck- I freaking hate turtle necks to wear but I think they are okay on other people, unless they have really short necks or something. But I digress. I do not like her dress, though. She DOES tend to dress all frumpy, and I don’t get that. I mean she can be covered up without looking like she’s wearing Mother-of-the-Bride stuff. Maybe she likes to cover up more because she’s so veiny? I dunno. Also I don’t understand why she’s so into beige. Only really dark people can look GOOD in beige. In conclusion, I can say that I personally would never let my boyfriend pick out what clothes I wear, because if I did I would be head-to-toe in digi-cammo every moment of every damn day.
Thanks, Iris. You seem to be on exactly the right site to me.
So it’s Brad Pitt who have Jolie dressing in those sack-dresses. There is something else we have found out about Brad Pitt,he is controlling. Most people think that Jolie is the boss of that relationship but I don’t think she is, Brad Pitt is probably the captain of that ship and the public really don’t know Brad Pitt. Ms Jolie have met her match.
I like this story- first, it has an actual NAMED source. Second, I recall the other pictures and videos from that night– they were SO SWEET together!! Brad always likes touching her back, so it makes sense he picked this dress. Last, but certainly not least, it is SUPER COOL that she doesn’t need an entourage of 10 to pick her dress- just her man!
@ Rebecca & Iris
If Kaiser resorts to using proper and respectful language, I AM OUT!!!!
The headline of this thread made me cackle with joy because it was HILARIOUS!!!!!! (for the record- I love the Brange!)
See now Jen, this was your problem. Always showing your boobs wasnt what Brad wanted in a wife…
@anonymous: Some people paint Angie as the boss in the relationship because they don’t want to accept that Brad left his ex of his own free will. He had to be the weak sap that got lured away by a scheming temptress, etc. etc. Shit gets old.
It could be that Angie is actually the one who calls the shots, but is smart enough to let him think that he is.
@l
Co-sign. Kaiser has advanced the American lexicon to a place no author has gone before (StarTrek 2: The Rath of Kahn).
I must ask one of the most profound questions of the day in that where would we be without such jewels as Bitch Face, Dong Fest, Dong Spa, Cooter Cover, and the like?
Where would we be indeed. Well….I guess that would be the Huffington Post.
Re: Brad’s “Bitch”. Seriously? I’m catching flak for that? Angelina is Brad’s bitch. Brad is Angelina’s bitch. And we are all Empress Zahara’s bitches. Take notes.
I think the dress is kind of tragic but she looks stunning in anything. She actually looks a bit healthier in these photos as of late. I hate myself for saying this but do you think she was trying to hide early pregnancy when she or Brad picked that waistline?
I’ve got my fingers crossed Angelina is going to cut that hair and stop wearing buns in 2011!! “Wanted” was on TV last night and she had a bun for half the movie. Lame! I think the bun is why “The Tourist” flopped.
I: it’s the sexism, not the improper language per se, for goodness’ sake. That should be blindingly obvious. Can anyone – Kaiser? – point me to a headline where you’ve referred to a man as a woman’s bitch?
@ Rebecca
Oh for heaven’s sake….seriously????
(that is all I can muster to say. I JUST got released from comment moderation jail, I am not about to go back! 🙂
EDIT: I spoke too soon. As soon as I posted this I see I am BACK ON moderation. Grrrrrr…..
@Amanda: “Tourist” flopped? You could have fooled me. Last time I checked it made $225 mil and counting.
@Rebecca
I understand your take but accept the fact that your perspective is gilded in this case. Kaiser is to being sexist, what Elton John is to being a homophobe. You can’t get there from here.
im pretty sure “bitch” comes from female dog, and since it seems to go well with boatneck, i just dont see the problem with the humor.
Kaiser:
Re: Brad’s “Bitch”. Seriously? I’m catching flak for that? Angelina is Brad’s bitch. Brad is Angelina’s bitch. And we are all Empress Zahara’s bitches. Take notes.
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Why do you think I’ve been sooo nice to Brangelina, I don’t want the Empress to kick my ass. 🙂
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Cheyenne:
It could be that Angie is actually the one who calls the shots, but is smart enough to let him think that he is.
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And that’s what smart woman do.
@Cheyenne- I believe “The Tourist” has done a little over 65 mil. in the US. Angelina was paid $19M and Johnny Depp was paid $20M. Who knows what the production costs were. Before you suggest it was not a flop, read around for common consensus. Just about everything I have read about it lately suggest it was a big disappointment.
A V-neck is much better on someone with large breasts and a thick, short waist. She looks horrible in that boatneck mess.
The alliteration of the title is magical.
“to show off her tattoos.”
What is she like 16? Dress does look good from the back but horribly unflattering, even for a stick figure, in front. Please- Tourist looked like a pile! & I love Johnny.
I saw “The Tourist” this week, I truly think it is one of the worst movies Angelina has ever done. Johnny Depp and Angie had no chemistry at all.I fell asleep half way through the picture, it was that boring!! Angelina needs to stick to adventure movies and Johnny to the weird Tim Burton style ones.
it’s a bit frumpy around the waist from the front (and side) — wrong place for a too-heavy drape unless she’s over 65 and trying hard to ‘dress her age.’ it’s also a touch too long at the drape thing and the hem. but the color and overall flow of the dress are dreamy, ethereal, gorgeousness. this dress makes me shiver with delight imagining what it must feel like to wear it. and the way that boatneck offsets the back is perfection!
Commence the bashing…5.4.3.2.1…
Kaiser has advanced the American lexicon to a place no author has gone before (StarTrek 2: The Rath of Kahn).
Actually, I think Michael K is the one truly worthy of that distinction. He’s been introducing “bitch” and “ho” and a host of other delectable words into the everyday vocabs of his readers for years. God bless him for it.
How awesome would that be if Kaiser dressed Angelina? Somebody needs to make this happen. As to the sleeve gloves, I loved ’em if only for the comments they generated. “Gleeves, sloves.” That thread was hilarious. Either that or I’m easily amused.
The Tourist is NOT a flop. As of Feb 6, it had made $ 225 million, and is still to open in China & Japan. It will prob do very well on dvd, too. I thought it was a really fun (& BEAUTIFUL) movie with great twists-we left the theater smiling! Love or hate the dress, she OWNS it, her poise & posture really are extraordinary. I think that is one of the reasons Tim Gunn is always citing her as a style icon.
Of course, there’s probably a very rational explanation for all this…
But I’m not going there yet… I’m sorta a feminist, beconfidentinyoursexuality kinda gal (not the norm where i’m from)which is why I fell for Angie in the first place. Plus, I’m cranky from a stupid backache I got from sitting up all night writing a speech on my country’s sorry criminal justice system…student activism. My vexation might inadvertently be featuring here…
@Majosha
Yes, but this is the house that dong built. Michael K is no doubt prince of his kingdom but even he didn’t spawn the word dongfestivus. To each, their due (lol).
@Molly and Cheyenne. Read the quote again. Angelina did not call Brad an architect, the person who was dressing her did.
They were probably ‘fluffing’ their quote. i.e. making what they have to say seem more interesting by alluding to something they’ve heard or read about Brad, which is that he’s keen on architecture.
Somehow I suspected this. Really I did. Awhile back, Lainey put up this article where she thought Brad would do a better job of styling Angie cos he’s a stylish dude (I 75% agree) and would probably make better sartorial choices on her behalf. But darn the dowdiness of it all. Between 2001 and 2005, Angie looked like she was styled pretty great. In a way, I gotta peg it to Angie wanting to be more feminine for Maddox. But geez, Brad…. Dude, you have so much good stuff to work with…a gorgeous face, unique body features, long, seemingly untameable hair, and an amazing ‘tude and aura that simply demands that people stop and stare. Period. And with that Brad gives me a 7 out of 10. Angie is not a fashion plate. Given. But…
Whatever. Sunday Rose and Suri Cruise can’t claim to be better stylists than him, I guess. Plus, it’s probably natural for them. I mean, where I’m living (nice, tropical place)… wives and moms often wear long, non-body-baring, flowing, dowdy-looking albeit colorful dresses called ‘boubous’ approved by all and their husbands everywhere. Makes them look really decent, respectable and yeah, like someone’s property. So I guess this also means that she’s really loved up and Brad is probably so p*ssy-whipped that he doesn’t want anyone else ogling her bits! Mmmmmm….okay, AJ, BP… now you’ve painted a smile on my face. 🙂
@Maritza. sorry, we all can’t like the same things. people i know actually loved that movie.
This might be the single best piece of evidence for all the “ZOMG!!!! Their totatlly braking up!!! rumors that seem to surface biannually.
Brad put her in this? He must have caught her frenching a bodyguard or something. Yick! Total FAIL.
Fortunately Amanda movies aren’t just shown in America. They are shown throughout the world and the The Tourist has made an additional $158 Million abroad. International stars’ movies often perform better overseas.It will open in China this month and Japan in March. So it will make $250M+, not exactly a flop.
And once again, I’m wondering where LoveAngelina is? Did she get banned? Did I miss something?
Also, I love boatnecks. I think that Angelina looks beautiful in that dress.
@Amanda; do you know one single contemporary actor, or legendary actor even, who is considered to have made perfect movies all their lives in a consensus shared all movie critics? well, do ya? Please, do enlighten me? otherwise, you sound like a whiner. JD and AJ are humans like us. they can’t be perfect all the time and some of us actually love them regardless of their imperfections.
@IChooseMe;
“@Molly and Cheyenne. Read the quote again. Angelina did not call Brad an architect, the person who was dressing her did.
They were probably ‘fluffing’ their quote. i.e. making what they have to say seem more interesting by alluding to something they’ve heard or read about Brad, which is that he’s keen on architecture.”
You took the words right outta ma fingertips.
“And once again, I’m wondering where LoveAngelina is? Did she get banned? Did I miss something?”
Yep, miss her too…
she was pretty amazing. 🙂
I’m a Boatneck Bitch, too! I have broad “clothes hanger” shoulders, prominent collar bones and a long, slender neck. A boatneck compliments me while cleavage makes me look like a pigeon-chested quarterback of an Ethiopian football team.
i think this is my favorite headline…EVER. the subtle accuracy of it is genius. well done, kaiser.
@ piedlourde
“pigeon-chested quarterback of an Ethiopian football team.”
That is the best description of ANYTHING that I have ever heard. Brilliant.
@ tomas. I like the alliteration personally.
@ piedlourde 😀
Amanda- I don’t know if you are aware of this…but Angelina Jolie is a BIG international movie star. Her fan base is huge. She usually does very well overseas and The Tourist has already made 225M at the box office and it only opened two months ago. There are still a few premieres left, including China (they LOVE her there), so the numbers are going to keep climbing.
Her last movie, Salt, which she starred in made over 300M worldwide. She is the real deal.
It is *not* her best dress by far, but that colour is gorgeous on her and she looks beautiful. *shrug and meh*
Amanda: I believe “The Tourist” has done a little over 65 mil. in the US.
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Yep, it did, but it’s made $225 mil worldwide, and still counting. Money is money. As long as the movie makes a profit, the studio couldn’t care less if it comes from overseas or from Altair-4.
A big disappointment doesn’t equal a box-office flop. A lot of people hated “Avatar”, which made almost three billion dollars, and 2/3 of that was overseas.
Random thought: Maybe Brad likes her to wear boatnecks because he doesn’t want anybody beside him peeping down her cleavage? Angie may be thin but she’s got some boobage up front.
“He’s an architect and likes geometric things.”
This is one of the most stupid things I’ve ever read, and this constant attempt of making him sound intelligent or cultured is just pathetic.
“I like wrinkled dresses because I’m a brain surgeon”
k every time i see pics like those of her i thank god i have a huge soul and heart and shit and love her for other reasons cuz otherwise i’d be like WHYYYYYYYYY GODDDDDD WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY DIDNT YOU MAKE ME LOOK LIKE ANGELINAAAAAAAAAAA?!!!! … she is gorgeousness defined in those shots.
Brad Pitt has terrible fashion sense.
@ solveig- “I like mermaid dresses and fishnet stockings because I’m a marine biologist!”
Solveig: this constant attempt of making him sound intelligent or cultured is just pathetic.
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It’s called building up your man’s ego. If Aniston had done more of it while she was married to Brad instead of tearing him down in public (“He was never the love of my life”), she might still be married to him.
Just sayin’.
She obviously have a body that he loves and she looks so dam good in everything that she wears so YEAH keep it up Brad and Angie .
So what’s the point cheyenne?
The man is stupid no matter what his partner or his exes think of him, plain and simple.
AND as a grown up man he shouldn’t have to be constantly reassured on his value. Hence he is stupid and insecure. Great match!
Ps: it’s not AJ the one who said those words, but Lubov Azria. Are you suggesting that BP is Lubov Azria’s man?
@Reality, that’s impressive too!
Here’s the deal, Solveig:
YOU calling someone stupid doesn’t make him stupid, no matter what you happen to think of him.
I don’t think he’s as intelligent as Angie, but he’s definitely more intelligent than that brain-dead twit he was shackled to for five years. The dumbest thing he ever did was marry her. The smartest thing he ever did was kick her to the curb for a better woman.
He’s happy with Angie; she’s happy with him. Tough shit if you can’t handle it.
“AND as a grown up man he shouldn’t have to be constantly reassured on his value. Hence he is stupid and insecure. Great match!”
@Solveig: Exactly! Any man (or woman) who needs his ego stroked regularly to feel worthy is a sad and pathetic soul. But then again, celebrities are raging narcissists who need constant fawning like the rest of us need oxygen.
“He’s an architect”!
!Are you kidding me? I watch House, am I a doctor? I’m really interested in law. Am I a lawyer? Brad has a high school diploma at best. Architects are highly educated. What an insult.
cheyenne, he is stupid because he sounds stupid in his interviews, he’s stupid because his eyes don’t communicate his feelings or thoughts (if he has any), he’s stupid because he says stupid things trying to sound profound, he is stupid because he’s convinced that his s*it smells like roses.
If you really want to prove me wrong, well, try to find something more convincing than your very high opinion on AJ , because in my opinion (that is as solid as yours) he still is as stupid as he was when he was married to JA (to whom I feel indifferent, FYI).
And by the way, the fact that now he’s with AJ doens’t make him intelligent, but maybe it does make her stupid: following your reasoning I could be 100% correct.
Angie and Brad have given themselves titles such as “artist” and “photographer” as well as “architect”. They’re textbook narcissists. That dress is completely fug. Congrats to Brad for unleashing it upon us a couple years ago. Applause.
Wow, Brad has been going heavier with the fillers/Perlane as of late.
I guess he looks smoother and a bit younger, but I like him rougher looking, personally. haha.
So I can officially blame him for some (or many) of her terrible outfits for the red carpet? Because that would be one more reason for me to dislike him.
@Solveig; Yep, Solveig, Brad Pitt is so STUPID… he supports the ONE Campaign, an organization aimed at combating AIDS and poverty in the developing world. He is so STUPID that he was allowed to narrate the 2005 PBS public television series Rx for Survival: A Global Health Challenge, which discusses current global health issues and traveled to Pakistan in November 2005 with Angelina Jolie to see the impact of the 2005 Kashmir earthquake. He is also so STUPID that along with Clooney, Damon, Don Cheadle, and Jerry Weintraub, they founded “Not On Our Watch”, an organization that tries to focus global attention and resources to stop and prevent genocides such as that in Darfur.
@Solveig, Yep, Pitt is so STUPID that despite his STUPID sustained interest in architecture, the STUPID people at PBS let him narrate Design e2, a PBS television series focused on worldwide efforts to build environmentally friendly structures through sustainable architecture and design. He is so STUPID; he founded the Make It Right Foundation in 2006, organizing housing professionals in New Orleans to finance and construct 150 sustainable, affordable new houses in New Orleans’s Ninth Ward following the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina. The project involves 13 architectural firms and the environmental organization Global Green USA, with several of the firms donating their services. Pitt is so STUPID; he teamed up with philanthropist Steve Bing to raise $5 million in donations to build the first six homes which were completed in October 2008.
My, my, Mr. Brad Pit is soo STUPID that in September 2009, he received an award in recognition of that project from the STUPID people at the U.S. Green Building Council, a non-profit trade organization that promotes sustainability in how buildings are designed, built and operated. StuPitt also met with U.S. President Barack Obama and Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi in March 2009 to promote his concept of green housing as a national model and to discuss federal funding possibilities.
Yep, he’s pretty stupid. So stupid, in fact that he has starred in and/or produced over 65 movies and TV productions over his over 20-year career. And is currently worth over 200 million. His stupid production company produced and won an Oscar for The Departed in 2006. He’s so stupid he’s been nominated for the Academy Awards, SAGs, GGs, BAFTAs, Independent Spirit Awards, Man, those are some very STUPID awards. That guy is so stupid that he’s gone out with women like Juliette Lewis, Robin Givens, Geena Davis, Gywneth Paltrow, Jen Aniston and Angelina Jolie who are all successful women in their own right. The Cream of Movie Actresses
@Solveig; Omg! Yes, Solveig! That Brad Pitt is such a STUPID, STUPID man!
Yep, Bohemia, I guess that even the most stupid person is able to put a X in the space where a sign is requested.
So what are you trying to prove? He’s involved in those campaigns because he’s famous, not because he’s intelligent. He’s famous because of his beauty and because he was in some good movies, not because he’s talented. He’s a movie star not a talented actor, he’s an actor not a effing architect.
You commented 5 times to say absolutely nothing worth reading.
@Solveig: Spare us the tantrums will you, we get it. You think he’s stupid so he’s stupid. Although to tell you the truth, the idea of you calling anybody else stupid is the best laugh I’ve had all week.
cheyenne, I replied to your and bohemia’s comments, it’s not a tantrum.
I get that you need to hate everybody in this planet who doesn’t think that they are godgiven precious saints who are saving us from our bad behaviour, but you for first don’t have to reply to every person who dares to say bad things about them.
How do you English speaking people say? Oh, “The pot calling the kettle black”…
Poppy-“making out with your brother is gross, not cool.”
She NEVER ‘made out’ (do you even know what that means?) with her brother. A quick kiss ON the lips with no tongue is NOT ‘making out’. Btw, that was a decade or so ago. Grow up and get over it.
“You commented 5 times to say absolutely nothing worth reading.”
…and yet, you bothered to reply…
agree with all the ‘what’s up with the architect label’ comments. as an architect, i am insulted that the title gets thrown around so carelessly, given it takes as much training as doctors to acquire the title. if he had dabbled in health issues would they say “brad’s a doctor..”? of course, all the true aid workers slogging away in the third world all day probably feel the same about ‘angelina, the humanitarian’ quotes.
@celeducat’em: well, i think, the actual professionals needn’t feel that way about things like this if they’re proud and enjoy what they do without requiring constant validation.
anyway, on behalf of the people at the fashion house, i wish to apologize for celeducat’em for calling Brad an architect when he’s not even qualified to hold a pencil. 🙂 Happy now?