Brandi Glanville eloped with Darin Harvey in Vegas, honeymooned with strippers

I can’t help it, this story made me laugh. It seems like Brandi Glanville, ex-wife of Eddie Cibrian and current reality star of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, went to Las Vegas for New Year’s, and she ended up getting married. Seriously, it was a Vegas elopement, and from the look of the photos, Brandi and her new husband were completely sh-tfaced.

Brandi Glanville is once again a married woman — but “not for long.”

The 38-year-old Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star tied the knot on a whim with Mixed Martial Arts manager Darin Harvey over the weekend, Us Weekly can confirm.

The former model, whose ex-husband Eddie Cibrian famously left her for LeAnn Rimes, informed fans of her new relationship status via Twitter Sunday: “I’m married again- suuuuuuck it!”

The newlyweds celebrated by visiting a strip club, Spearmint Rhino. “Honeymoons with strippers are the best!” Glanville tweeted.

Glanville, who shares two sons with Cibrian, added that Harvey is her “best friend” and she’s now an “official housewife, for reals.”

“After some beer and strippers he is now my husband,” she said. “No joke!”

Calling their union “a drunken BFF thing,” Harvey told his Twitter followers that their booze-fueled elopement won’t last. “I had a crazy Vegas moment,” he explained Sunday. “Getting annulled tomorrow.”

[From Us Weekly]

I’m including some of the photos from Brandi’s crazy, alcohol-fueled extravaganza. It really does seem like two friends just got wasted and decided it would be funny to elope. I hope that this incident doesn’t have longer-term consequences for Brandi, though. Would this affect her alimony or child support from Eddie, even if Brandi and Darin get it annulled?

Photos courtesy of Brandi’s Twitter.

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  1. Alix says:

    And she’s the “mature” one????! Heaven help those kids.

    • Shiloh says:

      completely agree. from watching her on the real housewives it’s clear that she’s utterly vapid and moronic. leann may be slightly crazy but at least seems to take her marriage/life as a stepmother seriously (albeit a bit too seriously at times). brandi is just an idiot. what has she done since her marriage ended? got a DUI, joined the cast of real housewives where we’ve seen her get drunk, have cat fights over name calling, and hang out with strippers. now she drunkenly elopes in vegas and hangs with more strippers. everyone vilifies leann as if brandi is some pillar of moral superiority. please. she’s pathetic. at least leann has a career and talents and interests. all brandi does is party.

      • JudyK says:

        Not a Leanne fan, but she seems to genuinely love those little boys.

        Seriously, some of you think getting blasted and using that as an excuse to get married is “just having fun”?

        I suspect that her “fun” may just give Eddie and Leanne the ammunition they need to go for full custody.

      • Eileen says:

        Judy: I don’t want to start an argument but how does bringing complete strangers you meet on twitter who harass the boys mother “loving” the boys? Or hiring photographers to follow her with them when she has them so her storybook BomusMOm crap is pushed everywhere? She might care for them, but she makes irresponsible choices for them constantly. Just my two cents.

      • Shiloh says:

        Eileen: i don’t know any of that for a fact. i don’t know if she’s having people harass Brandi or if she tips of the paps. she may, she may not. but i’m not going to just believe every rumor i hear as set in stone, hard cold fact. if she has an on-going beef with brandi, and whether or not she’s gotten friends to side with her or help fight that battle, it’s between her and brandi, and i doubt she badmouths her in front of the boys. sadly it seems all too common for mothers and step-mothers to dislike on another, but hopefully you try your best to keep the vitriol away from the children. as for paps .. i suspect they’ll take pictures of them either way. maybe eddie is the one tipping them off so he can make some money. who knows. but the boys looks happy whenever they’re photographed, so i don’t think it’s doing any harm to them.

      • JustBored says:

        ” leann may be slightly crazy but at least seems to take her marriage/life as a stepmother seriously (albeit a bit too seriously at times)”

        Huh what? She may be pretending to take this one seriously but it’s all about bragging rights with her. She definitely didn’t take her first marriage seriously when she cheated on him publicly and then left to marry the person she had committed adultery with. Her time is coming and it’s coming soon.

        Marriage is such a big joke now anyways.

      • Shiloh says:

        Eileen: why doesn’t eddie every get any blame in this? if he is knowingly allowing leann and her friends to “harass” brandi, his sons’ mother, then he must think the same things about her. and if that’s the case it’s sad. even if things go terribly wrong and you can’t stand your ex, it’s still the parent to your kids and you should encourage them to have a good relationship with their parent, and try to not badmouth them in front of the kids. so to me it seems like if we’re going to blame leann for being a “bully” or whatever, we need to also blame eddie. and hopefully the boys don’t overhear/oversee any of the adult drama going on between the three of them (eddie, brandi & leann).

      • Eileen says:

        Who says he doesn’t get any blame? He’s a complete d!ckhead! But the conversation was how AMAZING Leann is as a stepmother and I disagreed based on this evidence.

    • JudyK says:

      Eileen, I wasn’t aware of that…the photo ops, yes (I agree, if she’s actually arranging them)…but not the Twitter thing.

      I don’t do Twitter and find it idiotic and narcissistic. Still, I did know Leanne has a problem staying off of Twitter and that she misuses it for her own purposes and self-promotion. If she also uses it to encourage strangers to harass Brandi, then she’s also a bully and virtual stalker.

      However, I have to agree with Shiloh that I don’t have the facts (none of us do), and that the boys always look happy when they are with Eddie and Leanne–something that can’t be faked with small children.

      • Erinn says:

        It can’t be faked, but it’s easy to achieve. Give a kid candy, bring them places that they like to go, goof around with them a bit, and they’re going to be relatively happy. It doesn’t mean that she’s being genuine though.

  2. Bite me says:

    So is such a responsible person

  3. Jayna says:

    Pathetic.

  4. Turd Fergussen says:

    And gay marriage threatens the sanctity of marriage, huh. Right.

    • atorontogal says:

      word!

      • MomsThoughts says:

        Ah…what a role model. Getting drunk and doing stupid things. I would be so proud to wake to see pics of my mom like that.

        Celebs should have a mandatory waiting period – they can get married when trashed, but it won’t be legal for 60 days 🙂

        Next time anyone says that gays shouldn’t get married b/c they threaten the sanctity of marriage – I will just scream GLANVILE! KARDASHIAN! SPEARS! lol

        Can’t wait to find out if she just blew her alimony! lmao!

  5. Flounder says:

    Oh relax, I think she really is a good person. She is a good mom who doesn’t persecute herself for having fun every once in a while. It was irresponsible, but not the end of the world. I think she’s much more genuine and together than any of the other Housewives.

  6. samira677 says:

    I haven’t even thought about alimony. I know in some states alimony ends with remarriage. This could be huge. I don’t expect child support change since they’re Eddie’s kids and the “new husband” isn’t responsible for their care.

    Since when has Brandi been the mature one? She’s as juvenile as Eddie and LeAnne.

  7. trtgfc17 says:

    Huh-huh, I like her. She deserves to have fun. I think the broomstick that Eddie was keeping in the closet (L.A.R.) is jealous of her charisma. It doesn’t matter if Brandi doesn’t do shit for a living, and Lee Ann is (aka was) more successful than her, Lee Ann will NEVER be her. I hope this news will fuel Lee Ann’s jealous mind for years! (Cause we all know she could only wish to have that much fun) 😀

  8. Franny says:

    oh jesus. this thread is going to blow up bigger than taylor’s lips. I can hardly wait.

  9. Tipsy says:

    Such a blatant attempt for publicity. I like how CB points out Brandi was “completely sh-tfaced”. What lovely behavior from a 38 year old mother of two. I’m sure Lisa Vanderpump is so proud to be associated with Brandi on RHOBH.

    • Debra says:

      Why wouldn’t Lisa V be proud? didn’t she give a male stripper a lap dance at her daughter’s bachelorette party? she knows how to have fun, too

  10. Relli says:

    Sigh. Relax All, don’t start a new year wrong.
    Congratulations?!?! Maybe they will work it out.

  11. Jenn says:

    Obviously a very stupid thing to do, but I still think Leanne is the bigger idiot. Leanne has to be the most annoying so-called celebrity on the planet. She really needs to get off twitter and STFU.

  12. This just annoys me. NOt the getting married, but what she has already done to her face since her Housewife gig. Looks like Restalyn, lip injections and who knows what else. She is already the cutest one on the show by far, I hope she doesn’t ruin her looks, like everyone else.

  13. truthful says:

    Leanne would probably love to stop writing her a check every month, LOL

    I bet she is calling that fake attorney that issues out cease and desist letters now—her eyes are all squinty and she’s cussing like a sailor.

    • mia says:

      Wouldn’t you like to stop writing checks to a spoiled brat with absolutely no common sense. PLEASE! I love when a drunk shows their true colors. No more free passes honey, get a real job or be a real housewife! This is so amusing to me…she had it made and blew it. haha

  14. hilda says:

    This stupid b***h (WHAT IS SHE EVEN FAMOUS FOR???) can get married for FUN and then get it annulled, but gays are ruining marriage. What an asshole.

  15. hilda says:

    This stupid b***h (WHAT IS SHE EVEN FAMOUS FOR???) can get married for FUN and then get it annulled, but gays are ruining marriage. What a twat.

  16. Justaposter says:

    Mommy went to Vegas and brought home a new Daddy!

    Wouldn’t the kids have been thrilled with just a tee shirt? LOL

  17. Eileen says:

    LOL oh man-that’s our unfiltered Brandi! She lives the way she wants and doesn’t give two shits how she’s perceived. Darin is her best friend, there must have been some SERIOUS alcohol involved! Love ya girl and I hope you’re taking your eBoost for the hangover! lmao

  18. Samigirl says:

    Oh my god, moms aren’t allowed to have fun? While it’s true, I don’t think getting drunk is fun, other’s disagree. She didn’t have her kids with her, she went out, and she had a great time on New Year’s. No big deal.

    However, I hate that stuff like this can happen and gay men and women still can’t marry their so’s.

    Also, an annullment = the marriage never happened. I don’t think anything will happen to her cs/alimony.

    • Eileen says:

      I agree with that-I think its ridic re: gay marraige. I posted a pic the other day where it shows 40 states have laws where you can marry your cousin BUT not your partner? BackAsswards country!

  19. SoCalGal in FL says:

    Here’s a thought…maybe Brandi got married, only to turn around and terminate said marriage so that single white female Leann will do the same with her new marriage!!

  20. lucy2 says:

    Those poor kids. None of the adults in their lives are very good role models.

    I bet Eddie tries to get the alimony to stop now.

  21. Kiki says:

    I don’t mean to be a prude but what’s up with “I had a crazy Vegas moment,” he explained Sunday. “Getting annulled tomorrow.”
    Oh well… I’m glad there are people left who take marriage seriously.

  22. LisaMarie says:

    She’s as much of a moron as Rimes. The constant drunken behavior at her age is more than a little pathetic. I feel bad fir the kids having to deal with all 3 of those douchebags

  23. macey says:

    Do these quickie Vegas weddings count in the real world? what about a marriage license and all that stuff that you usually have to do before marrying?

    Im sure Brandi will be criticized for this, not sure what to think of it myself but you cant blame the girl for having a good time. She deserves it for having to deal with that evil thing all the time.

    • Jayna says:

      What about being a role model for your children? Drunk with strippers, getting married for kicks, tweeting photos for the Internet. It goes past privately having some fun.

      • Eileen says:

        I know! Poor kids! I hope those boys don’t cheat on their wives with several women while they are pregnant then allow their new wife to harass and stalk their ex-wife who cared for the kids while they went on trips with girlfriends and screwed their Lifetime costars! What happened to morals?

    • MorticiansDoItDeader says:

      @Macey, I was my friend’s maid of honor when she got married in Vegas 4 years ago. From what I can remember, they had to apply for a marriage license 24 hours before the wedding. Maybe Brandi and this guy were in a drunken haze for 36 + hours and applied for the license and married. Either way, 24+ hours is an awful long time to be drunk.

      • Mauibound says:

        Here in vegas, 5 minutes after you get your license you can get married

      • MorticiansDoItDeader says:

        @mauibound, I was just going by what my friend told us. She insisted that we be there the day before the wedding so we could be witnesses on the marriage license. Her excuse was the 24 hour waiting period for non-residents. Apparently she was wrong. Thanks for the correction.

    • NancyMan says:

      Yeah., life is all about having a ‘good time’. Da hell with being responsible and a positive role model for your boys.

  24. dorothy says:

    This just ruined whatever credibility she had. Why do something like this to your children. Thing is, with Eddie on a leash with LeAnn who does those kids really have to depend on to be mature?

  25. Happymom says:

    I’ve said it before: all 3 of them are pathetic famewhores, and heaven help those little boys.

  26. laura says:

    BFF? Is that guy gay? He seems more interested in his phone than her.

  27. jc126 says:

    What!! But I thought Brandi was so mature and virtuous, the wronged wife who is a model of stability! A bunch of commenters here said so!!! : )

    I hope it DOES affect her alimony, if she gets alimony. It certainly should.

  28. vicky says:

    So Eddie likes them super skinny and kinda crazy…I get it now.

  29. judyjudy says:

    My God these people are trite and boring.

  30. TheOriginalVictoria says:

    Brandi being a vapid moron has nothing to do with the fact that she was wronged. NOTHING AT ALL. I need people to stop using other people’s flaws as a way to justify someone else’s wrong doing. What Brandi did in Vegas as idiotic and disrespectful to the institution of marriage will possibly haven an impact on her children’s view of marriage, but seeing how their father is such a shining example of being a bad a husband, who the hell cares?

    She wouldn’t even be in this situation in the first place if Eddie hadn’t left her.

    I find this hilarious since she was supposed to have the children for the holidays and would have been with her family if Eddie and LeAnn didn’t play dirty.

    Yes I am still Team Brandi, not because I think she is virtuous, but because if she does one thing wrong, everyone will attack her, but MeMann and Fast Eddie can misstep since they are already the enemies and use this against her.

    • The Original Mia says:

      Word to all of this!

      Was it stupid? Yes. Does it change what LeAnn & Eddie did and continue to do to her? Nope.

    • MorticiansDoItDeader says:

      Well said. Everyone is entitled to make mistakes and Brandi’s was far less egregious than Eddie and Leanne’s. Leanne and Eddie tore apart two families; while the worst Brandi did was damage her reputation.

    • blue says:

      ITA. I can tell from the comments on this post that there were people waiting in the wings for her to mess up so they can jump all over her, because they can’t really saying anything about her the rest of the time. What she did was stupid and disrespectful, but it’s not going to mess her kids up anymore than what they have already been and continue to be witness to. Also if this guy is her BFF i’m sure her kids are already used to him. She didn’t just pick some random person.

  31. gag says:

    Now Brandi can put on her Twitter that she is a “good hearted WIFE and mother” ….lol. I think she is hilarious.

  32. Jax says:

    Would you prefer she stayed married to him and did staged photo ops showing how “happy” she is?

    She’s a dumbass for doing this, but as far as I can see, no one got hurt or violated.

  33. MyCatLoves TV says:

    The kids are always gonna be Daddy’s kids no matter what Mommy does. Child support will not stop and should not stop because of the mother’s behavior. I don’t know about CA but in my state even if the father’s income drops, his child support stays the same unless he can prove to the judge that he is incapable of earning enough to pay the ordered amount. And judges don’t look kindly on reducing support for the innocents. Eddie will pay until the kids grow up. As it should be. It ain’t the kids’ fault….none of this insanity.

    • AnnieB says:

      Eddie has ALREADY gotten child support reduced, and Brandi had to pay him back the difference of what he had paid her when it WAS reduced. He also blamed Brandi for him not being able to find and keep employment. Eddie is a piece of crap supported completely by Leann.

      • brin says:

        I agree, Annie, he is a super douche.

      • cbear says:

        Ewww…are you serious?? So when he asked for the reduction, then bought the expensive engagement ring right after, she had to pay him money back he’d already given her?? Even though he was living off LR’s $$ and buying that expensive ring? I didn’t realize she had to pay him back. Gawd…those two are total scumbuckets.

  34. SRM says:

    Ross and Rachel.

  35. HotPockets says:

    Eddie has bad taste in women, obviously.

  36. Rita says:

    Brandi and Darin have been very close friends for years. While Eddie was papping out the boys in Aspen, a single mom went to Vegas with several real and very close friends to have a good time.

    I have it on good authority that at the stroke of midnight on New Year’s Eve, Brandi put on a veil, rushed to a local chapel, genuflexed (twice), and said ten hail Mary’s before returning to the fun.

    It is what every real housewife does in Beverly Hills.

  37. Jayna says:

    I am team no one. But I would like to publically thank my mother for not being a public twitter stalker of an ex-wife and staged photo-opper and raving about her bonus children and also for not being a mom who is a drunk, crude, stripper partier who talks about being a slut on national TV.

    Eddie, I hope wife number three is the lucky charm — that is if you can keep it in your pants.

  38. nicole says:

    Way to keep it classy. The sanctity of marriage in the world…what a joke.

  39. TG says:

    There must be a lot of bad parents that read this blog for people to actually defend Brandi’s actions. Both women are disgusting and neither one of them are good enough to be a mom to those kids. I think ole Eddy is just biding his time until he can leave this she-man he is with. I think when you become a parent it is time to grow up.

    • Shiloh says:

      yep. i’m all for parents being able to go out and have fun with their friends or drink if they so choose, but eloping in vegas with strippers while shitfaced? as for leann, she seems to genuinely love/care for the boys which is more than i can say for many step-parents, but she needs to chill with the harassing of their mother. that’s not good (step)parenting either.

      • TheOriginalVictoria says:

        Calling people bad parents for sticking up for Brandi is insane. There are children all over the world right now whose parents treat them like utter and pure shit.

        I am not one who is justifying Brandi’s actions because she should know since she’s in the public eyes what she does is being watched, but at the same time, she doesn’t seem at all a bad parent. Her children seem well adjusted and healthy inspite of all the fuckery.

        White Oprah? A Bad Mom.

        Brandi? A Mom Who Did Bad.

    • blue says:

      Are you for real? A bit of an exaggeration don’t you think? No one is saying what she did was right but people need to get off their high horse. So she got drunk, got married and hung out with stippers, while her kids weren’t around. Omg! Seriously she didn’t just abandon her kids, she didn’t do all this while they were out in the car. Millions of kids are abused in every way, shape and form every minute of every day. If this is the worst thing she does to her kids, they have it pretty good.

  40. Eileen says:

    I understand the drive-thru marriage pisses people off and I get it. But I don’t see how getting drunk & marrying your best friend compares to the way her ex and his new piece behave.
    People make mistakes, esp when alcohol is included: but ppl don’t trip and fall into vaginas while married or harass their stepsons mother savagely by mistake.
    Sometimes when you’ve been though hell and back and your BFF has stuck by you and helped you get up and helped with the boys-you think for a drunkenly minute you should marry them. If my BFF was a man I’d have married her a LONG time ago! That’s why I call her my wife!

    • cbear says:

      It’s a little weird for LR’s fans to start crying about the sanctity of marriage on twitter, when they support someone who blew off one marriage, and was part of wrecking another one, and EC joked about a 3rd marriage at their wedding. I mean, c’mon. The government is screwing up gay marriage rights, not anyone else. Always funny how people pick and choose what to see as wrong or right, depending on whose celebrities’ butts they’re up.

      That said, I think this was a pretty silly thing to do. It makes her look a little crazy and impulsive and unstable. I didn’t like BG immediately because of disliking LR/EC, but grew to like her. But I think this will hurt her reputation, and just fuel LR/EC tormenting her more. I wish she just would have kept it quiet, off twitter. I’d hate to see everyone use this against her.

      Too bad Jennifer Gimenez didn’t make that flight! that’s a situation prime for a sober bff to intervene.

      • Eileen says:

        I agree and I seriously doubt any Brandi supporter feels like the Vegas Incident was a good idea.
        But on the other hand-I don’t think its enough to loose me as a supporter either. No one was hurt and these two people truly love each other…just not in a marriage way.

      • Shiloh says:

        i wouldn’t blame BG for making a mockery of marriage. i’ve never been someone who really cares about the “sanctity” or marriage as is. i don’t care who gets married or divorced. to me it really doesn’t mean anything to be “married”, unless you want it to.

        i think BG has a behavioral pattern that just points to her being sort of a shallow hollywood partier. hardly the worst thing on earth but definitely not someone i would praise for their morality or parenting. i don’t think what EC/LR did (cheat on their spouses and then leave them to marry each other) is any worse than getting DUIs and drunkenly marrying your friend in Vegas or hanging out with strippers regularly.

    • bluhare says:

      Eileen, I know you are some type of friend of Brandi. Aren’t you a bit worried about her drinking? She got a DUI and now did a Britney? She does have two little boys to think about.

  41. anne_000 says:

    Actually, I thought this was kind of funny. It was done as a joke, unlike when Britney Spears did the same thing. I don’t see how this affects her motherly qualities or hurts her reputation in general.

    Las Vegas chapel weddings are a stereotypical joke anyways, especially when you have Elvis & other themed chapels all over the place.

    And my parents had a Vegas wedding so I don’t think it’s all that undignified, even though I thought their marriage was a joke too.

  42. holly hobby says:

    What a stupid move. She should have gone the K-Fed route and just shacked up with this guy while still collecting alimony from that no good Lizard Eddy.

  43. jasperkitty says:

    LMFAO

  44. Kimlee says:

    How is Brabdi just having fun but JLO is a slut and a bad mother?

    Both of them need to grow up and put there kids first.

    • Eileen says:

      I think the issue with JLo is she can’t be single for two seconds without jumping on someone else. Brandi’s been single for two years now. JMO.

      • Kimlee says:

        Your comment still make no sense and is just hypocritical. Sinead O’connor got married in Vages and no one was like O she just having fun, no poeople called her out on it and talk about her not takeing marriage seriously, it seem like people are just making excuses for her childess behavior. Having fun is one thing being almost 40 and getting drunk married is another just like JLO having a boy toy one thing bring him around your kids is another.

      • Eileen says:

        lol I woulnd’t touch insane Shinnead O’Connor with a 10 ft pole and I DID laugh when she got married because of it. I don’t think its hypocritical at all. I was just giving my opinion-I’m not judging any of them.

    • Jennifer12 says:

      Never said a word about JLo, but I have said in threads that Sinead O’Connor has serious problems and that her kids are the ones who suffer. And it’s true. She’s constantly advertising for strange, marrying every few years and has had 4 kids with 4 guys. She’s also out looking for drugs and is off her bipolar meds. It’s a little different from JLo or Brandi. Sinead needs psychiatric intervention, like, yesterday.

  45. Sab says:

    I think it’s fine for Brandi to do whatever she wants when her kids are with their father. That being said there are a lot of people who see this type of nonchalant getting married just to divorce a few days or weeks later as insulting to those who do not have the legal right to get married at all. This was just silly and unnecessary.

  46. Vanden says:

    Sooo it’s ok what Brandi did cos what LeAnn and Eddie did to her was worse?
    Brandi can act stupid and irresponsible cos LeAnn is crazy and Eddie’s a douche?

    I’m not saying they’re not but Brandi is a grown ass woman. This ‘wedding’ appears to be a drunken mistake that makes her look like an immature idiot, she’s nearly 40 and a mother of two ffs. This isn’t just ‘harmless fun’. I like her too and she’s been treated horribly but the way some people defend her it’s as if she can do no wrong.

    • Debra says:

      Maybe Brandi should sit at home with her knitting while her kids are away…after all she IS almost 40, right? I bet all you ‘almost 40’ moms out there didn’t know you were supposed to give up fun when you hit a certain age, did you?

      • Vanden says:

        Wow, are you serious? i didn’t say she couldn’t have fun. i said she’s almost 40 and a mother of two, so kill me if i think that should come with a degree of responisibility. There are more mature and responsible ways to have fun, i see nothing wrong with going and partying in vegas but i think getting drunkenly married and tweeting about it a stupid and immature move.
        People are still happy to tear EC/LR a new one but Saint Brandi has just shown she doesn’t take marriage that seriously either.

  47. Penguin says:

    Maybe it was just for her reality show.

  48. nan says:

    hahaha, this will give Leann and Eddie their second big laugh this week. Hilarious and ridiculous!

  49. Mich says:

    When has “what happens in Vegas” ever been associated with “class” or “sanctity of marriage”/”gay rights” or “maturity”? It is an escape from all of those things where even very straight-laced adults can let go and act stupid. It is a place where good friends drag depressed friends they are worried about, saying, “I know you are down but we are going to have some stupid fun to get your mind off it.” Even my long suffering, Bob Jones-tortured saint of a mother loves the hedonism of the place. Note to Vegas goers: The part about what happens there “staying there” is pretty much nullified by drunk tweeting…

    I love that she had a good time. I think she deserves it and I don’t get the people who expect a deeply wronged woman to act more than human when dealing with heartbreak or stress. I love that she fought to have her children for just a few more hours over the holiday, lost, had it thrown in her face through staged media ops that ran globally and still found a way to enjoy life rather than retreating to her bed and drowning her sorrows in bottles of Sauvignon Blanc on her own. I love that she and her ‘groom’ probably talked about what she was going through and, as they progressed, drunkenly started laughing about ways to deal with that stress and then (stupidly, perhaps) went for it just because you can in Vegas.

    Brandi-baby, if you didn’t have me before you do now. I live on the other side of the world and know next to nothing about you except that you seem to realise that life is for living and that being a great mom does not preclude laughter; getting on with your life; and sometimes saying “Wtf the kids aren’t here, let’s just let our hair down and have some stupid, harmless fun.”

    • isis says:

      LMAO I can’t tell if this reply is serious or not….

      • Mich says:

        A little of both 😉

        I’m a former hectic ‘party girl’ American expat in Africa with five adopted boys. All of them were older child adopts and came to me with many stereotype issues. Two are now in university, two are struggling and the youngest will set the world on its head (in the best possible way) when he grows up.

        It is hard work and I would KILL for a weekend like Brandi just had!! Being an even decent mom requires relentless effort, forget trying to keep your head on straight when in prolonged stressful situations. Even worse, I would guess, when the grounding of a partner is gone and it is all public.

        I live in a world of uber responsibility and could use Vegas for a night or two to feel free to act like a careless idiot. Whatever stupidity I got up to, I hope I would then wake up and say “What a blast! Thank God I don’t understand Twitter so didn’t feel compelled to document it. Now back to the real world.”

  50. Kim says:

    Just because she Tweeted she got married doesnt mean she really did. Could all be for attention. I hope this is the case and this mother of 2 young boys didnt really elope to get anulled the next day.

    • Eileen says:

      I wish it WASN’T a mistake-this guy is a super dad and great friend. While the boys real dad was off having an affair and going on trips with girlfriends, he was helping Brandi and offering play-dates for the boys. But I’m afraid I don’t think they aren’t into each other that way-sometimes you can mistake BBF Love for true love when a few drinks are introduced. 😉

      • Diana says:

        I wish it was for real as well. Whenever I see a twitter exchange between BG and DH, there’s such a genuine warmth and respect and sense of humor in their words, my first thought was “These two should get married.” Then I kept reading that they were just friends, only friends, forever friends, etc. Still, whenever they go out with the kids (his son and her two boys) there might be a brief twitter message (usually from BG) that they were out and had fun, but they are never the subject of pap photos on the gossip sites. I was sorry to read it was just a fun thing, a joke. Mutual respect, mutual caring, mutual love for their respective kids makes a good foundation, even if DH once tweeted that they would “kill each other” if they were married and would always be forever friends. Sometimes real happiness is right under your noses, kids, if you’d only open your eyes and take a look!

  51. teehee says:

    This kid has ZERO self-worth and seems to be all about getting what she THINKS could be some sort of a superficial catch, just for the sake of having something that someone else doesnt.
    Messed.
    Up.

  52. NM9005 says:

    I love the nonchalant tone of this post. If this was a “celeb” *cough* who wasn’t liked, the article would have destroyed the woman. But now it’s “haha, drinking too much and eloping while pretending you’re the better one of a Triangle is soooo funny”. Yeah, let’s blame alcohol and fun for not taking responsibility and jeopardising your reputation for your children. Plus: alchohol makes you do silly things, jeej!

    • DetRiotGirl says:

      Sorry for the double post! I hit the button by mistake the first time. Feel free to delete this extra comment.

    • DetRiotGirl says:

      This. Just look at the articles slamming Katy Perry or Christina Aguilera for being “alcoholics”. Katy has never had any alcohol related problems with the law, and Christina’s charges were dropped. Brandi has a DUI, and now this spectacle in Vegas.

      Look, don’t get me wrong. Katy and Christina may very well have substance abuse problems. Also, Brandi probably did have blast on NYE and would probably be fun to party with. But, I find the hypocrisy of shaming one celeb while praising another who has behaved even worse than the first a bit mind boggling.

    • Jennifer12 says:

      Maybe because it’s not constant?

      • jasperkitty says:

        IMO…ONE DUI is enough to show there is signicant issues…but it’s not ‘constant’ so that’s ok? Now she has this drunk joke marriage in Vegas. Let’s hope she isn’t ‘constant’ on this issue.
        Stop making excuses for bad behaviour!

      • Jennifer12 says:

        Um…. WHAT? I’m not making excuses for anyone. Maybe I should follow her more closely so that I have a better idea of her actions, but she seems like she hangs out when her kids are with her ex. People do dumb things, get drunk, etc. One DUI: yes, a hideous decision but I haven’t heard anything else since. I would bet there’s more to this than meets the eye- maybe they tried to see if they could/would be more than friends. I don’t follow Twitter; maybe she should/could dial it down a few. My DH went to a concert this summer and got sh!tfaced and I wanted to kill him but it rarely happens. How often does it happen with this woman? I often wince when I see the boys around a liquor soaked party with L/E. There are quite a few photos around of various parties in which they’re wandering around with different drinks. What’s the difference?

  53. ShanKat says:

    I want to like her, but she makes a lot of distractingly bad choices. I enjoy a trashy core as much as the next person, but I think she should try to be a little more polished and sophisticated. Marrying as a joke is so CrazyBritney.

  54. skilo says:

    I hope that someday Brandi finds someone who is as good a husband for her, as Darin Harvey is a friend to her. Even though they got married as a joke, those two have more genuine love for each other than Eddie and Leann ever will.

    • Debra says:

      ITA skilo..

      Darin Harvey has been her friend for many years and has been in her kids lives since they were born… I wouldn’t be surprised if he saw them more than Eddie did, since Eddie was out boning random waitresses and washed up yodelers most of their lives

  55. isis says:

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me why this COMPLETE NOBODY has such staunch defenders? Or who she even is. Wikipedia says she just did some modeling and then married that Cibrian guy. Is that it? Who the hell cares? Or do people really hate some washed up country singer that much?

    I’m just so confused. 🙁

    • Snowflake says:

      I guess being cheated on makes women pity her, that’s my guess. I don’t get it either. Could care less about Brandi or LeAnn.

    • Kimlee says:

      People really hate some washed up country singer that.

      She a nobody who was married to a nobody d list celebrity who cheated on her with a crazy country singer.

      O I forgot she is also on a reality show with other nobodies.

    • cbear says:

      **Because she was screwed over by a serial cheating husband, whom she’d been with for 13 years
      **Because LR gloated a lot about it, and still continues to
      **Because LR and her friends continue to taunt her
      **Because she is honest and owns up to her mistakes and faults
      **Because LR copies her in weird creepy ways
      **Because EC stated he didn’t want his kids in media, and threatened her, yet allows LR to pimp them out constantly on twitter
      **Because LR puts on this fake personality, all “high road” and “blissful, peaceful, dali lama-type person”, but actions have shown to be pretty conniving and mean
      **Because LR makes all kinds of moral/judgmental statements, and alludes to BG being a bad mom, but obvs isn’t perfect herself
      **Because LR fans taunt BG for things that LR has done worse.

      I think those are just a few of the things that brought out the support for Brandi, from what I’ve seen. LR gloated and harassed Brandi from the beginning, and just has never stopped.

      • isis says:

        That still doesn’t explain why you care so much. None of these people are famous! THEY’RE ALL FAMEHOS!

        and that list mostly just makes you seem really creepy for caring so much

    • Shiloh says:

      in my opinion, most people who love Brandi and/or hate LeAnn are probably women who’s been cheated on or left for another woman. Personally i’ve never been cheated on (though i’ve dealt with my share of heartbreak in other ways), so i don’t really take it so personally. i think if you’ve been through something, it strikes a chord with you deeper down and maybe you have stronger feelings about it naturally. i’m not saying this is a bad thing, it’s human nature.

      • Eileen says:

        Ugh I hate that comment! Its not true and a ridic assumption. I’ve been married for 8 years and with my husband for 11, we have two beautiful kids and neither of us have cheated. Some women just have empathy for how her ex and his wife treat her publicly and how Leann constantly wants to peel Brandi’s skin off her and wear it. Most everyone I know is the exact same way. Why do you want to make people who support someone one way or another look bad? I don’t care for Angelina Jolie but I don’t paint her fans in a bad light-I really don’t care why they like her. Who cares??

      • Jennifer12 says:

        I don’t love Brandi, but I do relate to her as a mom and wife. I’ve never been cheated on- married for nine years and with my husband for 12 years. He’s my best friend and I can’t imagine someone I love and share kids with turning on me in the way Eddie turned on Brandi. Or having to see LeAnn all over her kids when she broke up the family. That does strike a chord. I don’t weigh 300 pounds, either. I hate those assumptions. Brandi was silly, though I think from the sound of things, she may have been taking the marriage more seriously than Darin. Who knows? It isn’t making fun of marriage any more than having your husband of many years cheat on you and betray you with more than one woman. Maybe I should watch her show to see more of her personality, but those shows are a joke anyway. She took a job and is making money.

  56. Lelo says:

    I think brandi and her bbf are pulling a ny d prank. They faked a marriage to make Leann go bonks and burn. Brandi is having fun in vegas while Leann is suck w kids. And judging from the latest staged pictures of wewe at the airport. She doesn’t appear to be having much fun. Leann again proves she is a A class liar. Leann rimes is busy trying for a baby but can not seem to fall pregnant. lets not forget that she Tweeted sometime last year that her summer project was starting a family. Yet in her lasted Tweet she says she has even tried so don’t discs her ovaries translation “i cant fall pregnant”. It didn’t happend w Dean an it will never happen w Eddie or you would already be pregs.

    • Kimlee says:

      Your comment just make her seem just as childess as Leann playing game.

    • cbear says:

      She was commenting incessantly about starting a family, tweeting about it all the time, but the last few months has backed off, made lots of comments about “if it happens it happens” and “who knows”, to now saying “I’ve not even tried”….makes you wonder if the rumors that he had a vasectomy are true, and if she just found out or something. Course, just hypothesizing here…but it’s a bit of a flip flip and rewriting of history, based on past statements, that she was trying. But she rewrites history a lot, so who knows.

  57. Cirque28 says:

    Seems like a victimless crime, but I imagine Eddie and Spearmint Rhino are secretly gleeful about it.

  58. Vesper says:

    Third pic. Once again, her party buds look young enough to be her daughters. Can we say MID LIFE CRISIS?

  59. brin says:

    Brandi just tweeted that it wasn’t legal, they were just having fun….yep, that sounds like Brandi!
    Now everyone can chill. And watch the RHOBH tonight!

    • Rita says:

      OMG!!! Brin, how can you claim Brandi did something that wasn’t legal. Maybe she’ll get probation. Thank God the California prisons are full.

      Ps- Wishing you a great New Year.
      PPS-Just want to make sure Brandi’s thread count is twice LR’s. (100% Egyptian cotton)

      • brin says:

        Happy & healthy new year to you too, Rita!
        We will definitely make this twice the thread count of LR’s (and no sleazy Charisma sheets on here)!

    • Ellen says:

      I think we all figured it was just a joke. Did anyone actually think she went to the courthouse and got the required license? No. We get it, we get it. Brandi is the fun girl. She is the life of the party. Why on earth would Eddie leave her for Leann when she is so much fun. Brandi is sucking every last minute of fame out of this which is fine, if you want to be known for partying. Personally I think being known for being smart or philanthropic would be more fulfilling. And for those counting comments – you might also want to note that most are negative towards Brandi.

  60. Jana says:

    Wow, her cheeks are looking like Madonna’s were, which is not a good thing. She looked great on RHOBH. Why do these women like Brandi who are pretty overdo it with fillers. Brandi was doing just the right amount and it gave her a fresh look. Not so good in those photos. Less is more, women.

    • Jacksonville says:

      They are not fillers, she was born that way. She is Native Indian and her cheeks/cheek bones are naturally like that. Google images of Native Indian women’s cheeks. She can’t help that she was born that way because of her race.

      • Jayna says:

        I don’t need to. I have native American Indian in my gene pool. I have very high cheekbones. Her face is different than on the reality show, a little more jacked.

  61. Jennifer12 says:

    So let me see if I have this right. Brandi is making a mockery of marriage, but LeAnn and Eddie are sudden paragons of virtue? Making a mockery of marriage is cheating, betraying and lying. Maybe Brandi did something dopey, but who exactly is the victim here? And F off with the age remarks. If you’re close to 40, do you have to wear a veil or something? My husband is closing in on 40 and is getting a motorcycle- is THAT acceptable? Why, because he’s a guy? So anyone over- what, 34, 35- should not get a tattoo, get drunk, hang out in any way and stay away from younger people? I wonder if she took it seriously more than he did, though. But, again, other than doing something kind of dumb, WHO exactly got hurt? I find Kardashian offensive because she played the public for fools. I find people who don’t take their vows seriously and deliberately cheat on their spouses offensive because they’re deliberately flouting their commitment. Honestly!

    • isis says:

      Who got hurt? Probably her kids, who will no doubt google their mother one day and found out she was talentless nobody who bleeted all over twitter about hanging with strippers and getting drunkenly married.

      • Jennifer12 says:

        Maybe so, Isis. On the other hand, the kids will have to google the divorce and find out that their dad cheated on their mom nonstop with many women and then left her for someone else (ten years younger, BTW). They will have to see the ugly, posted remarks that were sent to their mom by a woman who claims to adore them. They will see photos of themselves with their stepmom’s fans, who sent vicious remarks to their mom online and wonder why it was allowed. But I guess since their dad had a few legitimate acting jobs and their stepmom was a child star with a nice voice, they can blame it all on their mom. Because she has the uterus, right? No one is painting her as an angel- most of her supporters (including me) have agreed it was dumb and she herself has said she makes mistakes and is learning. I prefer that to fake martyrdom, blatant cyberbullying, and using kids as photo ops that aren’t even yours. Women are supposed to be allies, not enemies.

      • Debra says:

        what is gonna hurt these kids if they google their parents one day???

        A. my mother jokingly ‘married’ one of her best friends while partying in vegas (gasp)

        B. My dad was screwing everything in sight, even while I was in the womb…oh look, there’s a video of ‘bonus mommy’ sucking on daddy’s fingers and kissing while they were both still married

        I know which one I choose

      • Vesper says:

        Yes, I’d want my kids to watch me on a trashy reality show talking about c*ck and hiring a porn star to teach my “friends for hire” how to give bjs, while I drunkenly grind my girlfriend on the dance floor all the while dressing like a valley girl who*e.

  62. Mimi says:

    where are the parents for these poor kids? both she and Eddy Munster act like imbeciles!

  63. april says:

    I said before she is a nutcase. This is just additional confirmation. I think she is an immature drunk, unfortunately with two kids, and acts extremely bitter and foul mouthed.

    • mia says:

      Thank you April. People on this site usually will applaud anything this plastic drunk does. I don’t imagine it was too hard for her ex to stray. She made it easy just by being herself. Sad.

      • Vesper says:

        I’ve read a few times that Brandi abused alcohol long before her marriage was over. Even though she tries to come across as a fun loving girl on HWOBH it’s pretty obvious she has major issues – a huge chip on her shoulder, quick to take offense, a mean mouth, no filter when it comes to other people’s feelings, needs to be the centre of attention. Now mix those characteristics with heavy drinking. Can u imagine being in a relationship with that for 13 years? Who knows if Eddie didn’t try to end the marriage long ago without success. Brandi doesn’t seem to be the type to let go unless it’s her decision.

  64. Lelo says:

    @cbear he didn’t get anything snippet lets not forget Brandi was pregs w eddie’s second child when he started an adulterious affair with Leann rimes. so I doubt he would have had time to get one. Leann rimes just can’t fall pregnant that’s all. Don’t you love karma? Leann Tweeted many times about her plans to start a family, to already trying lets not forget the many interview’s. On the subject. And now on twitter she claims she hasn’t even tried. She put on weight thats a sure sign she is trying. She sang the same tune with dean. How she wanted kids so much. How dean was the love of her life. I’m glad she never have kids. She will be a horrible example for any growing child. Eddie and Leann will never last. Celebs marriages don’t never do . Records hav shown that Celebs that don’t marry last longer then thoses that do. Even jlo and marc marriage hav ended. Marc left his wife for jlo.

    • Rita says:

      Hi Lelo

      Brandi was pregnant with Eddie’s second child while Eddie was having an affair with Scheana, several years before the affair with LeAnn. Eddie is a serial cheater and cheated on Brandi from the day they got together.

      The smart money (aka I got a quarter) says Eddie got snipped after he impregnated Brandi with their second child so he didn’t have to be concerned about knocking up his multiple randoms.

    • gloria says:

      And what does this remotely have to do with the preceeding article. More of a commentary of how much you hate Leann.

      • jasperkitty says:

        Exactly! All I see is ‘fans’ condoning bad behaviour…but it’s all in fun, right? Entitlement to act this way…why?

  65. anti Leann says:

    You can tell by the pictures that it was a prank. Well I can. Brandi has on sweats. Duh. Please Leann herself has a lot of plastic in her as well. The only reason why brandi even got dui. The cops stalked her every move bank rolled by Lr waiting for her to trip up. Lets not forget the fake twitter account. That promise brandi would mess up. Very soon. How many times have I seen pics of Leann and eddie with drinks in their hands. Leann has gotten a dui herself didn’t she once upon a time wreck her expensive car. When she was really young. just because you turn 40 doesn’t mean u have to stop living its brandi life, she is gorgeous and single if she’s having fun, and her mind can stop thinking about how much she misses her kids. Then good for her She was forced in to the single life. Eddie cheated on her what the bleep should she do. Sit at home and feel sorry for herself alone, because her kids are with Leann rimes B is making the best of a crap situation. By joking and having fun with her bbf who is gorgeous. On new years day they just had a fake wedding that is all. Its really hiliarious brandi is a hoot. no papers were signed. all it probably was just standing outside the chapel taking pictures and fooling us all. To make Leann rimes mad and jealous because B still has fun. which makes Leann burns because its the only thing that holds eddie and wewe marriage together.

    • Vesper says:

      @ anti Leann – “The only reason why Brandi even got dui. The cops stalked her every move bank rolled by Lr waiting for her to trip up”.

      There are NO words to describe how ridiculous this sounds.

  66. LondonLady says:

    C’mon people, give the woman a break. She is an adult and if she wants to let loose for the weekend without breaking any laws, why shouldn’t she. She is only 38. It most certainly doesn’t make her a bad parent. However, if it was me, I would not choose to tweet this news. That was the only mistake, although to be fair, best way to control your own publicity is to break stories like this yourself.

  67. britobsessed says:

    I think leanness is dying!!!! She got upstaged by her mortal enemy- her post has no comments and brandish has like 150.

    The reason I like brandish so much is because leanness is torturing her on twitter, using her children in a sick campaign of publicity, used her money to take that pos ec, and then pretends on camera and actually thinks we’re all too stupid to see it. Through all of this, brandi is trying not to stoop to their level andicannotimagine how painful those comments are: I have nothing but empathy for her and nothing but contempt for lr and ec.

  68. Ellen says:

    Why on earth would Leann be jealous about this? Brandi followers keep saying over and over how jealous Leann must be about this fake wedding. If Brandi had run off and married Gerard Butler in Las Vegas then yeah, Leann might be jealous. But fake drunk marrying this no-name guy? If anything Leann is laughing her tiny butt off over this.

    • Debra says:

      At least this ‘no-name’ guy has a good job and can support himself..

      can’t say that about that ‘has-been’ that Leann is married to

  69. valleymiss says:

    I’m fairly shocked that Leann’s twitter doesn’t have a snide tweet saying, “Publicity stunts are so passe,” or something. Strike that – Leann doesn’t know how to spell “passe.”

  70. Fabgrrl says:

    Oh Brandi! How could you? This is part of her show, right?

  71. CeeCee says:

    For some reason I couldn’t reply directly to Eileen on her comment which included this.

    Its fact —-> http://twitdoc.com/OUY

    So sick & disturbing. These people are F*CKED UP and we need to stop giving them attention.

  72. Feebee says:

    Totally not judging, I mean its whatever… but under her personal circumstances it wasn’t the smartest move. More fuel to various fires. I hope she can explain to the boys before the other two “explain it”.

  73. OfficialBitch says:

    WHAT AN embarrassment this woman is to herself. She wishes she was 38. I’d say 42/43. She is acting like a FOOL. She must have NO FRIENDS bc someone should stop her from being such a spectacle. She is too OLD to act like an IDIOT. Sorry not a fan.

  74. Birdy says:

    So what will Leann do to try and draw focus back to her now that Brandi is getting more press than her?

    • Jayna says:

      Dream on. This isn’t good focus. She’s salivating over this. Brandi tweeting photos and tweeting about being trashed, marrying someone randomly, and loving strippers. The majority public who read none of these little blogs and don’t know everything you live and breathe about this triangle will see this in US Magazine and will not be as sympathetic to her as the wronged wife.

  75. Shay Kay says:

    OPEN POST TO BRANDI:
    Being a mother is a full time job and we are all going to make mistakes…the thing is some mistakes are so monumentally stupid and thoughtless in regards to your children that it makes it seem as if you didn’t think at all about how your actions impact them.Is that it?Since they already have a father and a stepmom doing that than shouldn’t you be that much more rather than less protective?

  76. Jacksonville says:

    It does not cast her in a good light – not at all. Brandi gained my respect from how well she has handled being the odd woman out on RHWOBH and the abuse she copped, also, I hate Rimes the psycho. I have been following all the stuff on Twitter and really enjoy seeing LR and Brown being blown out of the water for the bullying scum they are. BUT, I am so so disappointed in Brandi that I can no longer respect her. Hope she wins over LR and EC, yes. But she comes across with this latest thing (which does seem to give even more credibility to the alcoholism she is said to suffer) as nothing but a Britney Spears. A Kardashian or even a Paris Hilton. What is happening to her is very very wrong. But she seems very dirty and has no class or self-respect. Sorry but we may support the woman being cheated on, but we simply don’t respect women like her. Women don’t respect women like that. I am so disappointed in her. And it hurts. It does. Its not just this wedding thing, though that and the talks of strippers says a lot. I’ve cringed far too much. I will never root for her again as a person. Only against LR. I want to support her again, but I just cannot. Not until she gets her shit together and gets help. I think she really needs help for her alcohol problems, because I hate to say it but it is now far too apparent that she does have alcohol problems. I think if she stays sober she can rise above and succeed. But she needs to take that first step.

  77. Little Darling says:

    I’m sorry to have to say this, but I’m feeling like Brandi might be trashy boiled ham curled on a platter after all. Take note, I loathe LeAnn, so much so that I will actively tell people so, (and generally elicit questioning stares as many peoole have no idea why I am even Discussing such things with them in the first place as none of my friends give a rats ass about celebrities) however I can’t believe Brandi thinks this is responsible living. Daaaaaaamn gurrrrrrrrl! Keep your things on the down low. Bad enough she’s exposed herself on that walking trainwreck series Real Housewives of Delusion, but her choices are proving to be supporting unstable as well. Facts are that Eddie cheated and married his
    Mistress who continues To try and work her little Anorexic ass and bolt on Tatas for her man and his kids. She’s an idiot but she is doing the bonus mom Hustle. Eddie is appearing to be devoted dad who wants and will be there for the kids. I live in LA…I was married to a power player for over 13 years. I’m around brandis age (younger) and have two boys. He upgraded (?) for a pair of bolty boobs and it mortified me when after a year she showed up at a football game of my
    Sons. I felt For Brandi,. I did. But then she twittered private custody things, and acted like an whole on her show, and I began to question her mothering. I would never, ever, EVER go to Vegas, get sh-traced and marry a person and then TWEET about it while going through a custody battle with my boys father. Never.

    I think Eddie is a dick dong, which I equate with his dong will Dick anything, and leAnne is the crackers hussy to walk the block. But….Brandi is right in telling people
    To suuuuuuuck it like a vampire would blood
    because she just put another nail in her coffin as far as public favour is concerned.

  78. Sloane Wyatt says:

    Brandi doing drunken escapades reminds me of dear old mom. It’s not a good look. I don’t like the other 2 in this triangle one little bit, but I don’t think being a good mom is dressing like a hootchie, swearing, and getting drunk in public.

    Brandi is self medicating her problems with alcohol and attention seeking. If she could just ‘fake’ her party girl persona for TV like Dean Martin often did & imbibe alcohol free if that’s what she needs to do to make money for her family, quit dressing like she’s a video vixen, and curb her crude language for the sake of her little boys, why then those children won’t have to be saddled with an alcoholic tramp ‘who loves her children to death’.

    Brandi needs to get sober, do yoga, volunteer, work at the animal shelter, basically do anything other than drink “to have a good time”. It’s affect those little boys in a deep way and they’ll carry those scars for a long time. I know what I’m talking about.