Last week, everybody went a little bit crazy over Brad Pitt’s mom Jane. Jane Pitt had written a letter to the editor (for a Missouri newspaper) in which she extolled the virtues of Mitt Romney and bashed “Barack Hussein Obama — a man who sat in Jeremiah Wright’s church for years, did not hold a public ceremony to mark the National Day of Prayer, and is a liberal who supports the killing of unborn babies and same-sex marriage.” Considering Brad is a well-known and vocal liberal Democrat, some of us were surprised that his mom was SO conservative, even using the “dog-whistle” wording that many die-hard Republican operatives use. Brad did not issue any kind of statement about his mom’s letter, and Brad’s brother Doug was on the Today show this week, and Doug basically said, “Eh, families can disagree about politics without it being a thing, you know?”
So, obviously, Angelina Jolie is the devil. I mean, that’s where this whole story is going! It was always going to end up there – no matter who does what or who says whatever, it’s always going to end up with “… and Angelina is the devil.” Star Magazine claims that Angelina is going to “confront” Jane about her political views, because, obviously.
Angelina isn’t happy with Brad’s mom Jane — and it’s starting to hurt their relationship!
Angelina Jolie has never been BFFs with Brad Pitt‘s mom Jane, who reportedly still stays in touch with Brad’s ex-wife Jennifer Aniston, but their relationship just took its coldest turn yet! Angelina is said to be “steaming mad” that Jane wrote a letter to The Springfield News-Ledger opposing gay marriage, and she wants her fiancé to step in.
“She has told Brad he must educate his mother,” a source tells Star magazine, “but Brad is too much of a mama’s boy.”
But wait, it gets worse.
“If Brad won’t do it, Angelina will have to take matters into her own hands and talk to Jane about how, as the mother of such a prominent celebrity, she shouldn’t be writing letters that clash with her son’s political opinions.”
The source adds that an Angelina-Jane confrontation would be devastating — and could potentially end the couple’s engagement:
“It’ll eventually end up in a huge blowout, with Brad stuck in the middle.”
I really don’t get it. Angelina rarely discusses her personal politics (I really think she’s a neo-con), so why is everyone behaving like she’s some strident, in-your-face liberal? As for the whole idea that Brad’s mom should STFU because her son is a celebrity and a Democrat? That’s just dumb. This was never about “Jane Pitt is not entitled to her political opinions and she shouldn’t speak.” She can hold whatever arch-conservative opinion she wants, and she can shout them from whatever rooftop she wants. Everyone else has a right to react to her opinions, though, which is something to keep in mind in these discussions. Freedom of speech works both ways – Jane Pitt thinks President Obama is an anti-prayer, “baby-killing” lover of all things homosexual. I think Jane Pitt is an ignorant wingnut. See? Freedom of speech. I’m sure Brad doesn’t have the same opinions, and Angelina probably doesn’t either, and maybe they’ll say something, maybe they won’t. My guess is that none of Jane’s political thoughts came as any kind of SHOCK to their systems. Jane and Angelina seem genuinely close – and my guess is that when Angelina is with the Pitt family, they’re just talking about babies and grandchildren and work, not politics.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet and WENN.
As families go….
STAR knows nothing about AJ as evident by the dozen Baby # 7 covers they have published over the last two years. Also there is no evidence that the Pitts have even seen Aniston since 06.Lastly Jane has been an evangelical Christian for over 20 years so her beliefs are well known
It seems like Angie has more of an issue with Jane *being a celebrity’s mom* and saying this stuff. It shouldn’t really be a surprise to anyone that Jane feels this way…Brad has talked about his conservative upbringing. But I think Jolie is taken aback by Jane speaking out about it so publicly. Yes, as much as I don’t agree with Jane’s views, she’s certainly entitled to them. However, all the good and attention that Brad and Angie bring to certain causes can be overshadowed by something controversial like this. I’m betting *that’s* AJ’s big problem with this.
I think there’s merit to not wanting your kids to be around racist grandparents, and being afraid that your children of different ethnicities might feel alienated by their grandpa or grandma.
Even Jolie’s dad is a big problem. He didn’t even know Zahara’s name.
It’s okay to be worried about the relatives with whacko political and religious beliefs.
Really? How is Jane Pitt racist? Where does your comment come from? Did I miss something? Being conservative does not equal being a racist…
ITA with you, Molly, and also wanted to comment on what Rachel said. Being conservative doesn’t equal being racist, but with Jane Pitt, it’s definitely true in her letter. That was the only part I was surprised about. It’s subtle but what other meaning could be behind fully writing out Barack Hussein Obama (but it’s just Mitt Romney)?
Because Angelina identifies as bisexual, she as well might have ended up with a female partner. So my guess is, that Janes intolerance towards marriage equality bothers her very much and she might even be afraid, that her children adopt some bigotry from Jane.
ITA Molly. There is an implication in her use of the President’s middle name. She is highlighting his father’s Muslim heritage and invoking Islamophobia. It is tacky and distasteful. You can have your opinions, but the “othering” of non-Christian groups to emphasize your own “moral superiority” is disgusting and…yes RACIST.
Using the President’s middle name doesn’t indicate racism. It may, however, indicate bigotry. I’m amazed at the number of people who don’t know the difference.
CT girl – trust me, it’s racism. Simple as that.
CT girl, it could be bigotry, I agree. It’s just that if it is, then she’s being bigoted and racist, too.
Hussein is not a white name. There’s no reason to use it than to underline Obama’s not being white – to me, the Islamophobia is there but less apparent. People do leap in and accuse racism on Celebitchy at times when I’m just… huh? (Someone thinking Garner suits Affleck better than Jo-Lo, because she’s normal and low-key, for example) but tbh this does seem a slam-dunk.
I have right wing friends, but they aren’t homophobic or racist. Her letter seemed both to me.
@Liv, I don’t know you and I trust my own logic over yours so, no thank you, I’ll trust myself over you.
@Kate, what is racist is stating that a name isn’t a “white name”. You are an idiot to think that names define a person.
How is she racist? You are totally jumping to conclusion she is racist because she doesnt agree with gay marriage? That a huge and ignorant leap on your part. Not agreeing with gay marriage does NOT make one racist.
Oh I’m well aware of the difference between bigotry and racism and I choose my words carefully (and stand by them). Jane Pitt has a problem with Obama that extends far beyond politics and only an obtuse “idiot” would fail to recognize it.
@Nina, disliking another religion is bigotry, not racism. Can only Middle Easterners be Muslim? No. So it’s bigotry not racism.
Mentioning his second name is like pointing out he’s a muslim, which he is actually not. If I need to point that out, it’s probably because I have a problem with it – otherwise I would not need to mention it. It’s not religion, when people refuse to fly with men who “look” like terrorists – it’s also racism – they judge them because of their looks. Same goes for Obama.
It’s like the campaign of Donald Trump (if I’m informed right), when they forced Obama to show his birth certificate – such a shame! For me, that’s racism. And I’m really convinced Mrs. Pitt is racist. She would probably never appreciate a black president.
But CT girl, as long as we both don’t know her personally, I guess we can’t say exactly what it is – for me it’s racism, but feel free to call it bigotry – in the end it’s a shame, especially in 2012.
Not like Angelina’s father hasn’t also been outspoken about his conservative political views, not to mention his thoughts about her mental state.
Angie and Brad are not strangers to voicing opinions on things and are free to offer their political views, and sometimes do. Can’t pick your parents and you don’t have to share their views on anything, celebrity or not.
I can imagine it might make family get togethers somewhat awkward if politics comes up or other topics where they have opposing views (if they do), but like CB said, they probably avoid those and focus on the kids.
Jane is a real human being. Jolie is a kook. Even her father admits that.
When you libtards start calling someone racist, it means you’ve run out of ammo.
I’m no Brangeloonie, but if Voight called her nuts it means nothing – that guy is as whacked as they come.
Yep. Amen.
Jon Voight is super nuts. He has clearly lost his marbles. You’d think Romney and Co. would shush these old kooks.
Jane Pitt reminds me of that “Obama is an Arab” lady John McCain had to get the microphone away from during the 2008 campaign. God that clip cracks me up.
When you refer to people whose views differ from yours as “you libtards”, you never had any ammo to begin with.
However, all the good and attention that Brad and Angie bring to certain causes can be overshadowed by something controversial like this. I’m betting *that’s* AJ’s big problem with this.
The problem with this is that Jane Pitt hasn’t made anything resembling an attempt to parlay this into spotlight exclusively for Jane Pitt. We’ve seen conservative women attempting to turn backlash into a career or career re-invigoration – Janine Turner, Patricia Heaton, Victoria Jackson, that Miss America contestant who pissed off Perez Hilton with her answer to the gay marriage question, etc.
Jane Pitt wrote a letter to her local newspaper; if she wanted more spotlight, I’m sure that she would’ve accepted an invitation from Fox News, since I have no doubt that they would want her to come on their shows and talk less about her political views and more about the seemingly liberal psychos that are making threats against her.
Using a persons middle name does not indicate bigotry nor racism. I find it interesting that you attack Pitt for what you perceive as racism, yet she is referencing all the years that Obama spent in Rev Wright’s church, a man who clearly was racist. She is entitled to her opinions without being labeled a racist. Out of touch, yes. But if you want tolerance, shouldn’t you practice it? Teach a person, don’t hate. It only enforces what they believe.
I’m with you, Miss. Good mothers never intentionally do or say anything PUBLICLY that will hurt or embarass their kids. Jane; you’re a jerk for 2 reasons now.
On the one hand I feel that she should be able to express her opinion, but on the other hand it seems like she made use of her son and his girlfriend’s fame to get attention.
If her son had not been who he was, the newspaper probably would not have posted the letter (since it didn’t say anything that hasn’t been said a thousand times before by anti-Obama people). She should have known others would use her letter to surf on her son’s fame and that’s what I don’t like about it.
+1 @ flan
I don’t know how old Jane Pitt is, but I’m around people in their 70s and 80s a lot due to family circumstances. People of that generation do sometimes say the damndest things. They don’t understand political correctness and don’t care, so sometimes things come out that can make you cringe to your boots.
Meh. Wouldn’t be the first time someone disagreed with their “in-laws.”
No kidding.
Momma Pitt should read some Cumby-Holmes and Freeman-Watson slashfics and we ‘ll be on the same page.
Or we just name a gay bar after her.
Momma Pitts
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Angelina Jolie is reportedly “angry” with Jane Pitt over Jane’s anti-gay letter
I’d be disappointed if she wasn’t.
Exactly. Not to mention the liberal sprinkling of xenophobia to add to the homophobia
I take it you approve of the Mexican invasion? Let’s see how you feel in 20 years.
“The English suffixes -phobia, -phobic, -phobe occur in technical usage in psychiatry to construct words that describe irrational, disabling fear as a mental disorder, chemical aversion, organisms that dislike certain conditions, hypersensitivity to a stimulus, usually sensory. In common usage they also form words that describe dislike or hatred of a particular thing or subject.”
Throwing around the word “homophobia” is largely inaccurate, especially in this case, where a disagreement about homosexuals being allowed to marry is hardly an irrational fear, aversion, or hatred toward a large group of people. Most people just feel a certain way about marriage and its meaning, and it does not automatically make them “homophobic”. It’s too bad that nobody can voice their opinions any more without having a barrage of insults hurled their way because others don’t agree with them. It shows just as much immaturity and bigotry (a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one who exhibits intolerance or animosity toward members of a group ie. those who don’t agree with homosexual marriage) on “your” side as it does “theirs”.
@Charlene: And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why republican is becoming synonymous with racist.
Would you have a problem with a Canadian invasion or a European invasion? Or is it only a problem when the invaders are non-white?
By 2045 whites will be a minority in this country. What are you going to do then? Relocate to Tasmania?
@ canda:
You are right, the terms “-phobia” do not really apply in the technica way. But despite that, the terms “homophobia” or “biphobia” are established and widly used.
“Most people just feel a certain way about marriage and its meaning, and it does not automatically make them “homophobic”.”
YES, beeing agains marriage equality is indeed homo-/bi-/trans*phobig! And if you don´t see it, its just because of your own bigotry.
Just think about your statement that I quoted. And now think again what it would mean if you would use it as excuse for not allowing poeple of diffrent ethnical backgrounds/races have the same rights as people in same-race-marriages.
I’m sure Angie knew her political views but Angie may have been taken back like most of us that she was a tea bagger supporter. I can now see Jane holding signs at those rally’s “Obama is monkey that needs to go back to Africa”.
I admire Brad and Angie more so for being around those wackos (JV and JP). But at least JV has photos of all his grandkids hanging up in his home. Jane, I lost all respect for her but, I don’t believe she deserves death threats.
And to Doug Pitt.. Your mother decided to go public with her comments and so she should expect there are people that strongly disagree with them. if you have these debates without venom, then keep your debates private.
I think she’s mortified that the letter made it to publication.
This is ridiculous.. Momma Pitt’s view are only shocking to the public, both Brad and Angelina already know and accept it-otherwise they would have never gotten engaged. I mean come on, they’ve been together how many years and this never came up?? Yeah, right..
Exactly! Seven years and 6 grandbabies later, I think that Angelina knows all about Jane’s views. The tabloids are just trying to make something out of nothing.I love how they added in the fact the Brad’s mom is still close to Jen. I doubt that holds true today maybe when they initially broke up but now? I think Jen has moved on and so has the Pitt family.
From all accounts Jane Pitt and Aniston haven’t been face to face since 2007 when Aniston invited Jane Pitt over for a chat and neglected to tell her the paparazzi were lurking in the bushes. When they exited the house, the paparazzi got some photos which probably made poor Aniston wish she had never called them. Aniston was looking absolutely miserable, and Jane Pitt looked like she just wanted to get the hell out of there.
Hell I have been “angry” at my mother-in-law over the years for a variety of reasons, her politics the least of them. If you have a mother-in-law then you know EXACTLY what I mean.
They’ll be over it by the next big family event or both of them will be woman enough to keep their mouths shut and proceed through the event with smiles plastered on their faces 🙂
Hi Chat-EXACTLY. People know when to put politics (and other issues) to rest when dealing with family. Family’s not going to disappear so you have to find a way to deal.
Hi Kitten…yes family is family and you take the good with the bad…whilst grinning and bearing it.
As far as family disappearing…only in CO$ … hehe (sorry couldn’t help myself).
P.S. Kaiser hooked us up with another Fassy fix. Girl is all over knowing what we need~
Cue Brad running out of the room crying, “why is the world so harsh on MEEE?”
Cue “marriage is OVAH!” headlines. And a photoshopped picture of Malefinjolie throwing the gigantic Bling of Ages into the River Thames.
And Scientologists swooping right in to soothe Angie’s black, tortured soul, just as her “kooky not-cousin” fear she would.
I s’pose the tabs are now running out of juicy soapbox goss, what with Holmes-Cruise lightning quick divorce settlement.
Back to the old go-to villainness then.
Some things never change. Smh.
I’m calling BS on this one…..If anything Angie might be disappointed in Momma Pitt’s letter. Right or Wrong she does have the right to whatever she chooses as does Angie!
Have to give Jane Pitt credit for bringing out the Obamas’ affiliation with Jeremiah Wright’s very racist church. Most people are unaware of so many important pieces~~ and I am not a Repub or Romney fan.
he goes to church?? i thought fox news said he was a muslim…..
since when is foxnews the epitome of journalistic integrity? gladstone has some seriously LOL comments on foxnews
@shrubee, i hope you realize that was a joke
rofl
@aang i did.
Heidi, how can you say nobody knows about it when Sarah Palin brought it up nearly every time she opened her mouth in 2008? I doubt there are many people who don’t know about it.
EVERYONE is aware of this. When it broke when he was running against McCain, it was on the news 24/7.
yeah and making a the big stink about Obama’s middle name too /sarc
please conservative churches and preachers have been known to “damn America” in sermons too but IOKIYAR
Think everybody knows about Rev. Wright & Ayers. We heard it over and over again in 2008 and 4 years later, we’re still hearing about it. Here’s the thing, most didn’t care then and they don’t care now. Just as most don’t care about Romney being a Mormon. The populace is over it, except for right-wingers still trying to kick the dead fish.
As Lainey pointed on her blog, how this woman can write so negatively about Barack HUSSEIN Obama, and consider all her grandchildren as equals?
What?? If you don’t agree with President Obama then you are a racist??
I think garvels, what Sandy is pointing out is the deal that has been made by the Right of Obama’s rather unconventional and exotic (yet very American) background. The GOP didn’t go about hissing “William JEFFERSON Clinton” like they do with Barack HUSSEIN Obama — as if it’s some sort of sin to have a name from another culture.
Regardless, President Obama’s middle name (and even where he was born) has been subject to scrutiny that no other president has seen before. It all reflects a rather xenophobic tone directed toward the first person who didn’t match the ethnic background of presidents prior. There ARE, in your defense, a lot of people screaming racism blindly, but I think it’s disingenuous of anyone to deny that no other American President had to prove and justify his American identity than this one. Legit calls of racism absolutely come from questioning why he had to prove anything to anyone in the first place after he’d been vetted. (I mean, surely, IF there was anything to find, the Hillary Clinton juggernaut would have routed it out, don’t you think?) He has every right to sit at this table as the rest of the men before him.
Everyone knows when the Right says his full name, it’s not in a honorable or honest way, but in a way to make him sound like he is “Other.” I think it’s a valid point made whether by Lainey or Sandy about what it says about Jane Pitt who has grandchildren adopted from other countries, yet she chose to use this tired and bigot-tingling way of referring to the President instead of just sticking to the issues.
Or maybe this is all news for you.
could be Jane Pitt’s way of
deflecting her disapproval
of her son divorcing first
wife and the choices he made
after.
staying close to first wife
AND making a point to say
Barack HUSSEIN Obama and
probably disapproving of gay
or alternative lifestyles,
well, she does have another
son, it’s not all about Brad.
Ummm… because Maddox, Zahara, and Pax were a part of Jane Pitt’s life well before Obama came on the scene. Oh wait… OBAMA has nothing to do with any of her grandkids, biological or adopted.
And if you’re going to cite someone as being astute about how grandparent-grandchildren interaction works, try citing someone who isn’t voluntarily childless and hasn’t had to grapple with this relationship. And for that matter, given that Lainey routinely points out and mocks the ‘otherness’ of her own mother… please! That b!tch needs to have a seat.
Jane has two other Ethiopian grandsons Caden and Cruz who she babysits according to her daughter s blog.Also Doug s brother in law adopted Ethiopian baby
Whoa Nelly, you also don’t have the experience, it seems, of being a first generation immigrant. Lainey’s pointing out the otherness in her mother is most probably a source of affection for her.
Hmmm… I guess you’re right about not knowing about being a first generation immigrant, or rather, the offspring of one, since Squawking Chicken doesn’t roll off of my tongue as easily as Lainey.
Kim, is Julie Pitt Neal’s blog back up? She had to take it down a couple of years ago. She posted photos of her two little boys on the blog and some Neanderthals from Female First got on it and posted some of the ugliest, racist and most vicious comments I ever read in my life. If she has a new blog up, can you post the link? Thanks.
I tend to laugh at people getting mad that she used “Hussein” because if Romneys middle name was Hussein…don’t tell me that the dems wouldn’t be all over it…BOTH Dems and Republicans use whatever they can if they think it will make the other side look bad… and before I get attacked, I am neither right wing, nor left…more of a middle of the roader!
They wouldn’t be all over it, since that would alienate a big part of their base (anti-racists etc).
On the other hand, I’m sure they would use it if an opponent’s second name was Whoopdeedoo or something.
My dad is a right-wing nutjob, but I love him dearly. We get into political shouting matches, and my mother finally loses it and yells at us both and leaves the room. What she doesn’t get is that, yes, we’re yelling, but neither of us is really p*ssed. We’re just convinced we’re right. We try to avoid having thse discussions in front of her, but sometimes, it just breaks out.
We had a war last night about the contraceptive issue. He brought up Rush L. on another topic and I told him that since he called Sandra Fluke a prostitute, he was demonstrating his own ignorance by using Rush as a reference point. Then he told me he’d never heard the Sandra F. story. I asked if he had been living under a rock, and it went from there.
It’s fascinating to get a glimpse into the collective tea-party mindset, but it’s terrifying to think there’s a whole group of people like my dad.
I can relate to this – my Dad is very conservative and we do not agree on anything politically. However, the biggest obstacle is that he often makes very racist comments. That is my trigger button to send me over into an instant, frothing rage!!
At this point in my life, I try and not and engage in those discussions with him. However, I often wonder if I was adopted. 🙂
My dad made a raciest comment the other day and I fl*pped my sh*t. Then my mother was yapping about being disrespectful to him, and my response was that under no circumstances would I EVER tolerate any racism, and I would not disguise disgust under respect or courtesy. I love my dad, but any racist comments are the fastest way to lose my respect and access to their only grandson. He dropped it pretty quickly. They live in a very small, insular community where the politics and the power are white men, and they fit the mold. Mr. Tarheel and I are raising our son 5 hours away, and while we want him with his grandparents as much as possible, the first time I witness a racist remark or derogatory term, or my son comes home saying one, I will cut off any unsupervised access. I don’t care about the generation-it should never be tolerated. How can I be an example for my son if I tolerate bigotry and racism from my parents? There are some things that are wrong, no matter who you are, your age, your religion.
That sounds exactly like political discussions between my dad and I, lol! He is also a Wrong-winger (as I affectionately call him) and we can have some very loud, heated conversations but we are not mad at each other, just very passionate about our viewpoints.
As long as Daddy stays ON politics and OFF race, religion, ethnicity, or sexual orientation, we can argue without anyone getting truly mad. However, he threw in a racial comment a few days ago, and I was appalled (see above). I am still not sure if he was just trying to yank my chain or if he was serious, but he got a lot more than he bargained for.
The longer I live away from their town, the more I realize how insulated the thinking is. What disturbs me is that that approach to race or religion or sexual orientation could just as easily be applied to gender. But my dad can’t see it that way. He says he raised me to be strong and independent and that I deserved anything I could earn…but it could have easily gone the other way. I could easily have been told that since I’m female, I’m intrinsically inferior in some way and should have a husband to lead my household. And that’s terrifying. President Obama and Anderson Cooper have exactly as much control over their race and sexual orientation as I do my gender. So how dare anyone, anywhere, use it as a weapon against them, or a reason why they should not deserve EVERYTHING they can earn?
It’s been a year of learning since I moved away from TN…and boy am I grateful.
I read that Jane Pitt is receiving death threats. My goodness, you’d think her famous son would stand up for her but nope…silence from Pittstain. Jon Voight defended her. Haha.
Exactly how many different sites are you going to post this on. At least mix it up and change the writing.
Angie got death threats too. The thing to do with crazy people is not to address them Brad’s mother does not need him to make a public statement. His bother her other son has already done that. So maybe the law who is probably investigating does not want them talking.
But we know you hate Brad so I guess that is why you are on so many sites posting the same thing. really sad for you uh.
Point me in the direction of the other sites. I personally posted it on one site. This one. exactly how many sites are you patrolling brangelina threads, officer?
I noticed this. Brad cares a lot about what the cool people think. That is why he tries to impress them with his atheism and Frank Lloyd Wright architecture schtick.
Exactly. A real man would stand up for his mama.
What’s your obsession with Pittstain? Brad doesn’t need to defend his mom on everything. He already said his mom is a sweet woman and means no harm. You hate him so anything he does you’ll turn it into something negative. If he did come out to defend his mom, I’m 100% sure you’ll attack him for doing so. Your Pittstain crap is getting bored.
VOIGHT SImply said Way to go regarding letter he hates Obama
Freedom of speech– esp when you make it public – has consequences. I do not want for anything to happen to Jane Pitt, and I don’t think her sons would either! But there is still responsibility people take when they open themselves up like this… she should do as her party always preaches as personal responsibility: suck it up, deal and live with what choices you have made.
VOIGHT didn’t defend her he agreed with her regarding.the. contents of the letter. He said nothing about threats
Yes, because Brad is his mother’s keeper and has a duty to comment on everything she says and does. Rolls eyes. Even for a hater, that was a real lame and pathetic attempt at reaching. Another point, his mom didn’t speak up for him when he was accused of all those lies from the tabloids ie cheating, which he never did, so why should he defend her now?
I doubt Angie is so intolerant of one holding opposing views. An open-minded person can understand where the other person is coming from. More manufactured rifts by tabs drumming up viewers.
I SO don’t believe this story. I’m sure Angelina has been aware of her political differences with her future MIL for a LONG time.
I’m sure that Angelina choses to avoid these types of discussions with her entirely and I very seriously doubt that she would suddenly decide to “confront” momz Pitt about it.
I highly doubt this is true. i’m not a fan of jolie at all but she doesnt seem the type to freak out on a guy’s mom because of opposing views.
Yup. When reading Jane’s open letter probably she would only rolling her eyes or shaking her head.
Why would Angelina be angry with Jane when she and Brad are both aware that his parents have different views. I don’t get the media trying so hard to make it seem like Jane’s views were a surprise. Brad’s brother and sister and father all hold similar views.
I think it is just another way to bring Angie into this and create drama where there is none. Angie’s father feels the same as Jane and has made a statement of support. YET the story is Angie is mad at Jane about something she already knew about. I guess a story is not worth telling unless you can tie Angie into to get attention. I guess the Brad angle didn’t work. So lets pit Angie against Brad’s mother AGAIN
LMAO.. did STAR forget who Angie’s Father is. So Angie is mad at Jane but OK with her own father who feels the exact same and has been vocal for years and years. And who has said how much he likes Brad and is happy for his daughter. Brad who feels totally opposite to him politically. So they can hang out socially with these opposing views.. but Angie and Jane the women are tearing into each other.
(these magazines are geared to women, and it is a shame that women buy them and support this kind of crap. Stories that make women look like complete idiots. YOU never saw this kind of story about Brad and John now did you???
SMH
BS story.
This.
I think while Pitt’s mother way of voicing her opinion was a tad over the top, it really has nothing to do in the end what Angie or Brad thinks. I am pretty sure they both know who she is and accept her. They probably are a bit sad that the public will now see this woman other than a loving grandmother but like the author of this post stated, its freedom of speech. But Jane Pitt should not be surprised that the fans of her son and daughter-in-law will think she is a loon because she has made this publicly clear.
But Jane Pitt should not be surprised that the fans of her son and daughter-in-law will think she is a loon because she has made this publicly clear.
Not quite understanding the logic. Brad Pitt has said, numerous times, that his family are conservative and evangelical; therefore, if the fans didn’t listen, it’s on the fans, not on Jane Pitt. And for fans to remain neutral regarding the death threats, when they regularly bring up the death threats that were thrown at Angelina and the kids… well, I have no words for the myopic, situational ethics that some of them hold.
All I am saying is regardless of what Brad said, she has now taken her opinion very public, so its more clear, I guess? I get your point though.
Meh, I disagree with my MIL on the regular. But I also really enjoy her company. She is good to our kids, kind, and helpful. It IS possible to overlook things like this.
Agree that Angie is probably a neo-con (LOTS of quotes to support this) but she is still liberal on social issues. Many neo-cons are. Brad’s Mom unleashed the crazy.
Many neo-cons are for gay rights. True neo-cons often put social conservatism on the back burner. Dick Cheney as an example.
I doubt that they are close, these are celebrities. Tomkat looked close weeks ago. Jane Pitt has always seemed cold to me. She seems like a snake and I think Pitt gets his cold calculating side from her.
WTF? We hardly ever seen this woman. We only seen her at Brad/Angie premieres or award events. She seems like she enjoy spending time with her son and future DIL and her grandkids. I don’t know her well enough to say she is a sweet woman but she definitely doesn’t seems like a cold woman to me. You can’t seriously say she’s cold base on the letter she wrote recently.
They are close enough to tour Auschwitz together last year and the. first. pic is Jane supporting AJ at Blood and Honey events.
with mothers-in-law its all about the grankids. angie gave her them, jen wouldn’t.
I think you made a very good point there.
For the last few years of BP and Jen’s marriage, there had been reports of friction because he wanted kids and she didn’t (yet?).
It might well have something to do with his mother pressuring him as well. This might even be just by subtly asking about the topic every month.
Star made it sound like AJ+BP are just now going out. They’ve been together for how long now? i’m sure AJ has an inkling of what her long-time boyfriend now fiancee’s family is like.
plus, enraged? shocked? at a lady writing about her opinions in a newspaper? AJ herself has written a lot of opinions in newspapers, and she might have met worse examples of close-minded people who don’t just stop at writing to their local newspapers. in that regards, i’m sure she can put Mama Pitt’s letter into perspective, or at least she should.
even if she hadn’t done or met these types through her UN work, even if she hadn’t done what she has been doing, i bet she got a lot of practice with Papa Voight. that’s her own father, right? if she can manage to reconcile with her own father, i’m sure she’ll just move right on along with a mother-in-law-to-be who she doesn’t see too often anyway.
or at least, that’s how i see it.
I can believe this. It’s not that far-fetched, Angelina is extremely vocal (since almost the start of her career) regarding her bisexuality. She’s been a staunch supporter of gay rights, identifies with the movement, most likely wants to raise her children to be loving and accepting of gay rights…. so why shouldn’t she be offended?
I think the anti-gay tone of the letter would most likely be the biggest sticking point. It goes beyond the politics of the letter; the anti-gay stance, to a degree, is a rejection of part of what makes Angelina who she is.
THIS!
go take a flying leap angelina, you air head.
It’s freaking Star magazine. Does anybody really believe anything written in it?
Jane Pitt looks like what Aniston will look like as an older lady.
Aniston will be lucky if she looks half that good at Jane Pitt’s age. At the rate she’s going now, she’s going to end up looking like Donatella Versace.
Yikes!!!!
“Freedom of speech works both ways – Jane Pitt thinks President Obama is an anti-prayer, “baby-killing” lover of all things homosexual. I think Jane Pitt is an ignorant wingnut. See? Freedom of speech”.
THANK YOU for this succinct explanation of a sometimes complex legal issue 🙂 Why don’t “liberal” types get this?
P.S. : I am a “liberal” type who does get this.
That is nothing special. Though I’ve seen people have strong opinions about her letter, I haven’t seen anyone on this website saying she should not have those opinions or that she should shut up.
😀
I call BS on the story. Angie would CARE less about some small time paper or even read anything in the media about her or gossip rags. Even the younger Pitt brother brushed it off.
Mrs. Pitt looks like a real yapper.
I very much doubt Angie gets offended? Jane & Angie don’t live next door where they see each other everyday. If they do, that might cause a problem. But since they don’t and only see each other once in a while it shouldn’t be an issue. When they do see each other, I’m sure is about the grandkids and other things.
You can’t expect every family members to have the same views & beliefs as you are whether good or bad.
Another thing. I’m sure Jane knew Angie was with a woman before. If she can get along with Angie now, obviously it shows that Jane doesn’t have any problem with her it.
Yes, how dare Jane Pitt have her own opinion, especially if it differs from her homewrecking not-yet daughter-in-law’s.
It is really beyond me why anyone even allows conservatives to think or breed. They just need to pipe down and know their place.
Please tell me this is sarcasm. Because everyone gets the chance to breed whether its a good idea or not.
I find it a crying shame too that conservatives are allowed to talk and breed. What shall we do about it?
Purity rings.
I call BS on this, too. Angie knows how Jane feels about this stuff and she’s hardly the type to insist everyone be in idealogical lock-step. It’s just not her.
My guess is that Angelina hasn’t give two seconds worth of thought to what her fiance’s mother thinks about gays or politics.
They all see each other like three times a year; nobody cares what anybody thinks about anything when they aren’t in your face everyday.
I’m calling BS. I don’t believe there have been, nor will there be, any “confrontational” conversations with JP about politics.
Families (especially those with 2 or more generations still alive) tend to have differing political points of view.
Family gatherings don’t HAVE to degenerate into a knock-down drag-out politically-fueled fight.
(Apologies if I’m repeating previous comments – I try to avoid reading the comments on certain threads, due to the negativity & need to address bygones.)
Everyone has a right to their opinion trampie even if it doesnt match yours. Ha ha – Go Jane!
i betcha the Brangeloonies never thought they’d see the day where Katie Holmes got more blog action that Angie.
womp. 😉
Hate to break it to you, but the Jolie-Pitt fans aren’t measuring our like of Angie/Brad based on the comments on a gossip blog. In fact it is a great example that people are moving on and not buying all the bullshit lies many did years ago. And another thing the JP fans love when they are on tabloids. Seriously you have a WOMP sense of what makes someone a celebrity and what doesn’t.
Have you read it?
http://celebs.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981465035
LOON MELTDOWN
Dear poor Olivia,
That story was DENIED by Scarlet Jo publicist. It’s NOT true. Angelina Jolie truly owns your a*s!
My gosh you are a pathetic soul. I had no idea that Scarlett and Angelina were the only 2 actresses in the world. So why is it always always someone compared to Angie..
no honey the fans are not melting down. But you however are way more vested in how much money Angie makes then we are.
But then you little nose is always open for any negative slant.
I think Angie is very content with her money. LOL at YOU
BWHAJAHAHANANNAHhanNHHahHahHAAAAA!!!!!
I cant believe my lil’ joke got such a neg response! Almost spit out my Vitaminwater!! LMMAO!
Keep on trucking Lisa2, u da wo-man. 😀
Oh poor O, is that all you could scrounge up?
@ Olivia :
Have you read it?
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-scarlett-johansson-avengers-pay,0,7900403.story
http://www.gossipcop.com/scarlett-johansson-20-million-dollars-salary-avengers-2-black-widow-money/
Sorry, Olivia. Try again next time. 😉
horseshit.
jolie has her own crazy teatard father to deal with; i highly doubt she concerns herself with pitt’s comments.
besides, maybe they enjoy debating the issues..
Jane Pitt is mostly ignorant and is a person known only for being the mother of one of the most famous people in the world. Therefore, she should shut her political trap when speaking to the public and keep her political venom within her family…as the ONLY reason it is getting attention is because she is a famous person’s mother. Her public letter is disrespectful to Brad’s family.
Disrespectful?!? Please! This is America, and she has every right to express her opinion, as you have so blatantly expressed yours on this thread!
Angelina and Brad have three non-white children, and Grandma Jane was bordering on racist when she put the emphasis on Obama’s full name. If Star magazine writers had even 20% brain capacity, that is the angle they should have gone with to make their sources sound remotely legit.
Don’t forget, her daughter Julie (Brad & Doug’s sister) adopted two Ethiopian boys (and also has three bio children of her own).
Instead of getting mad at her for being a bible thumper, we should all band together and tell Mrs. Pitt that there’s a dead possum on her head.
ROFL. That is the crime here…not the usualy political differences among families.
Yeah I’m sure Angie is pissed that her mil has the same ignorant beliefs as ummm her own father. Star mag is trash. Only loonistons would believe this crap so they can think that Jane hates Angie and longs for pure Jen’s return.
Yeah im sure Angie is pissed that her mil has the same ignorant beliefs as ummm her own father. Star mag is trash. Only loonistons would believe this crap so they can think that Jane hates Angie and longs for pure Jen’s return.
Funny how they are all so silent on that Jen love hmmm…
I think as another poster suggested they are focusing on Angie because it would mean that Jane shared more beliefs in common with JA. but if they are going to stop all that Jane loved Jen best because they don’t want to taint her, so that is a positive out of all this negative.
and again some of the posters here and STAR act as if Angie and Brad didn’t know his parents political views. NOR the views of his siblings. Brad has said very clearly that HE holds different views then his FAMILY. He didn’t just say MOM but FAMILY. And this didn’t just happen. It was that when he was a child 48 years. And he has had a close relationship with his family. Angie too. The Pitts traveled all over to support both Brad and Angie.. They were in NYC, Hungary, Italy, Africa, London, NOLA. Not to mention Angie and Brad go to visit them often. Just because the media didn’t get pics. They have all said they spend time together. And people act like Angie just met Brad’s family. She has known them Over 7 years people. These people are not strangers. The outside public is the ones with the problems. I don’t think Angie and Brad have a problem. And just because others do doesn’t make it theirs still.
You know i’ve been thinking about this way too long (like 5 minutes), and I just realized that Angie and Brad might be glad that she’s coming out with her views. The two are clearly for gay rights since the initially said they would not marry until everyone could. However until Lady Pittstain came out, her views were in the background, and because of the importance of maintaining family harmony they could not really push too hard. Now they she has come out in a big way like this, it opens up the discourse and could force her to be challenged in a way that the Brange would never dare try. They might be secretly loving the fact that she is getting criticized, and defend her *** views.
It’s her mother-in-law. Family is family. Angie is now allowing her father back into her life after she disassociated with him publicly. We have relatives with differing views. It may strain the relationship, but rarely ends it. If mother Pitt has received death threats, thats just not cool. Returning hate for someones political opinion is ridiculous and simply wrong.
I’ve heard before that Brad Pitt’s family is conservative, but his mom is crazy-conservative. She is entitled to her opinion, but honestly, calling Obama a baby killer is just nuts, and there’s nothing wrong with same-sex marriage. Geez.
Angie should just cut Jane off from contact with the only children Jane cares about….the white biological ones.
Brad needs to tell his mother off and let her know that if she doesn’t put out a public letter of apology…she won’t be going to the wedding. I hope they get married in a muslim country in the middle of a gay convention….and Jane can watch it televised at home on Fox News.
Unless you have hard evidence to prove that Jane Pitt only cares about her white biological grandchildren, that is a really despicable comment.
That was uncalled for…
being a bisexual woman, it would make sense for aj to be at least a little miffed.
Is it so hard for you people to just accept God..jane is a christian and I respect her views because she’s right…you all want babies that are barely formed to be killed and homosexuality that is a sin to defile the sanctity of the institution of marriage ..you are attacking jane because she is brave enough to speak for what is right in a world overcome by sin…
I totally accept God. What I don’t accept is irrational and narrow-minded mindsets like yours.
One could argue you are narrow minded for the exact same yet opposite reason.
Oh Good Grief, I found this whole thing a non story to begin with. Jane Pitt is entitled to her political and social opinions, and she’s entitled to express them. The fact she is the mom of a celebrity should have no bearing on her expression….they are HER opinions, not Brads, not Angies, HERS. And candidly I’m not a fan Obama, probably wont vote for him, and will hate like the dickens voting for Romney. It doesnt make me racist not to support Obama –it makes me a capitalist. 😉 And her use of his middle name is simply that–so lets not assume intentions of same, because we simply dont know. My parents used my middle name when they were mad at me…..just sayin. Assuming she is racist–or bigoted–simply for using his middle name is absurd in my opinion. She might be–but that sure doesnt prove it or disprove it.
FYI…..In addition to being a capitalist, I’m also pro choice, and pro GLBT rights. Which is why Im gonna hate like the dickens voting for Romney.;-)
And after reading all of the posts on this thread today we wonder why it takes so long to enact change?
It’s no wonder there are the Mrs. Pitt’s who have opinions such as she does. She express’s her feelings and views and she has been called vile names by many, totally disrespected because her views are different from many, and her role as a mother and grandmother have been totally maligned by many. Wait, isn’t that what so many are up in arms about, her lack of tolerance and yet the same people who took her words as those of ignorance/intolerance have elevated to a higher level of intolerance and spiteful hate spewing. Nice.
Before anybody jumps my ass, I totally don’t agree with her views, but I do totally believe she is entitled to them and to express them without the vicious insults being thrown at her and her family.
Cosign this.
Absolutely agree!
Jane Pitt thinks President Obama is an anti-prayer, “baby-killing” lover of all things homosexual. I think Jane Pitt is an ignorant wingnut.
I love you! I really do!
What if it was reversed and Jane was telling Brad he needed to educate Angelina on gay marriage being wrong (Im not saying it is Im just giving a hypothetical)?
The beauty of humanity, whether we agree with people or not, is that we are entitled to our own opinions. No 1 persons opinion is more valid than anothers. We dont have to agree but we do have to respect freedom of speech.
Why do people resort to name calling (see thread above)? Its immature and dangerous to not allow people to express their opinions whether you agree with them or not.
Isnt this one of the freedoms Angelina is always trying to secure for humans in other countries? Freedom to speak freely without being killed or villified?
Its a basic human right we should all respect.
Jane Pitt has a right to say whatever she wants. And anyone who disagrees with her has a right to call her on it.
Her letter came off sounding racist and homophobic. If she gave the wrong impression, she’s still responsible for creating it.
Oh well, aren’t most parents/in-laws kooky old farts in some way?
Sh&% Ma Pitt says
A lot of commenters here seem to take it for granted that Angelina is a ‘liberal’, she isn’t. Brad is the ‘Liberal’ in the family and they both say they argue a lot over politics, so if Brad is the liberal it means Angie is in the middle/leaning more to the right in that relationship. I don’t follow her interviews particularly, I think I remember her saying she is for gay rights but has she ever made a statement about abortion in particular, other than just championing women’s rights in general in undeveloped nations and war zones?
Brad or Angelina have never said they fight over politics unless you believe those “quotes” from The National Enquirer”. Angelina is very liberal concerning most things. I think the only thing she differs from Brad is probably foreign policy since she works with the UN.
She did say they disagree on death. Penalty and that she is an. IND not DEM
She said they do have heated debates. And that they disagree on the death penalty. I don’t get why that is an issue. She is liberal on some things and conservative on others. If you ask most Americans are the same.
I think about James Carville and his wife, Mary Matalin; totally different sides politically. They are still together and have 2 daughters. So normal people can disagree on politics and still have solid relationships.
The death penalty isn’t really politics… I meant economic and foreign related issues. I don’t know why it matters either or why those loons are acting like this is proof they hate each other.
Meh
This story is going to go on forever, isn’t it? I can just imagine the headlines… “Wedding off! Brad dumps Angie after she insults his mom”, “Angie bans Jane from seeing the kids”, and various other headlines comparing Angie to Jen and other misogynistic headlines trying to make Angie seem like an overbearing intolerant psycho when in reality anyone with a brain knows she doesn’t care.
so she thinks since they’ll get married anyway it’s ok to be anti-gay? wow brad’s hillbilly parents
Hates, Jane HATES Angelina..Hahaha. That’s funny, so does Brad!
What a bizarre fantasy. Who else is with you at your mad hatter tea party?
I agree with mama Pitt. I can’t stand Obama. I think he’s destroying the country and is a HUGE socialist. See…I’m entitled to my opinion. If you wish to oppose me, go ahead, I won’t change my mind…I still can’t stand the baby murdering, non U.S. citizen, hoodlum, socialist, egomaniac thing called Obama…or Barry Santoro should I say. For the first time in my life, I’m embarassed by my President. He’s a complete joke.