Ugh, let’s do this. I have to admit, it’s incredibly smart of Esquire to release their Brad Pitt cover story piece by piece, spreading out the revelations and quotes throughout the week. Today’s revelations from the Esquire piece do not come from Brad, however. They are from his “longtime makeup artist” Jean Black. Black has apparently been working for Brad for 23 years, and she spends some time in the article praising Brad for keeping his natural look, his wrinkles, her unkemptness. Black told Esquire, “He’s not fighting it.” Then Black seemed to go WAY off-message and she named Jennifer Aniston. RUH-ROH.
Um, really? Brad Pitt’s Esquire interview has even more surprising revelations — this time from Jean Black, a makeup artist and friend who has worked with Pitt, 49, on nearly all of his films since 1990. Speaking with Esquire, Black sheds new light on Pitt’s legendary meeting with Angelina Jolie on the 2004 set of Mr. and Mrs. Smith, when he was still married (apparently unhappily) to Jennifer Aniston.
“I think Brad was ready to soar when he met Angie,” says Black, who then quickly clarified of Aniston, whom Pitt divorced in 2006: “This is not to say anything negative about Jennifer. I was part of that and I know that he and Jennifer are very good friends and he cared deeply for her.”
“But in Angie,” Black continued, “he saw a very adventurous person who was grabbing on to life and taking it to its nth degree. It was intriguing because I felt Brad had that in him and wanted to unleash it.”
Whether or not Pitt and Aniston, 43, are actually “very good friends” these days, the World War Z actor himself intimated to Esquire that he was deeply depressed about ten years ago during his marriage to Aniston. Saying he’d done major “drug damage” to himself, Pitt said he was a “drifter . . . I spent years f–king off.” About ten years ago, all that changed.
“It was an epiphany — a decision not to squander my opportunities,” he explains. “It was a feeling of, ‘Get up.’ Because otherwise, what’s the point?”
OMG, just go ahead and scream that this was ALL Brad’s doing and why can’t he let it go and why does he have to throw so many pity parties and it’s so crazy that People Magazine gave him a “Five Years After Jennifer” cover. Oh… wait. Well, certainly we can scream at Brad because obviously he authorized this woman to speak on his behalf and he told her what to say and isn’t that the most vicious thing his surrogate has ever said about poor, maligned Jennifer? Oh wait.
So… whatever. I’m sure there will be arguments and conspiracy theories but I tend to think this woman was just kind “off message” and what she said wasn’t even that offensive. Who here doesn’t think that when Brad got with Angelina, something inside of him was “unleashed”? As for the idea that Brad and Jennifer are still “friends”… no. They aren’t. They might pay lip service to that idea, but they aren’t friends. I think it was just a verb tense fail – she meant to say “they WERE good friends, he cared deeply for her”.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
You may as well change that headline to read ‘Brad Pitt’s FORMER Makeup Artist…’ because I bet she’s not working for him after this article.
This Jean Black person also threw shade at Brad’s dad too, specifically saying that the Mr. O’Neil character in Tree of Life was like Bill Pitt, which was kinda messed up, given that Brad explained in the article that his father changed jobs because he recognized that being there for his family was more important than the demands of the job.
Of course, the tabloid prism will make Brad the fall guy for the makeup artist’s presumptuousness.
I like Jen and Angelina. There’s something pathetic about Brad and guys who need a “mommy” to unleash their potential/hold their hand to do something new.
Angelina is too good for him. So was Jennifer. Brad Pitt comes off really immature in all this and he never got any flack for it. Angelina had to take the hits. He defined himself through the woman he’s with? So weird.
@Priya, who wrote: “I like Jen and Angelina. There’s something pathetic about Brad and guys who need a “mommy” to unleash their potential/hold their hand to do something new.”
Brad wasn’t with Angie 10 year ago. He was on the other side of the world filming “Troy.” 10 years ago Brad was still married to Jennifer Aniston, who only visited him ‘once’ during the 6 – 8 month shoot (which is why the budget on the film was so much) because–as she explained in an interview at the time–she was just not comfortable flying.
I tend to agree with this–been through too many of Brad’s public relationships and have watched him change his style and his principles according to whichever romantic relationship he was involved in at the time. He seems very impressionable.
However, I doubt any of them actually give each other much of a thought anymore and this is all just gossip fodder kept alive by the media and fans.
Oh. My. God. How are people even still talking about this?
I’m with you. And yet this post will probably get more comments than any other today. Boo.
Pop some popcorn, because you know a lot of the comments will be doozies!
BeesKnees
You’re so right. There’s no better b!tch fight than a JA and AJ fan girl b!tch fight!
This kills me because it is so over. Angie has a firm career in films and the UN as well as a strong family life.
Jennifer is an extremely savvy business woman and can do whatever she likes because she’s so freaking rich from her investments. Outside of Chelsea Handler I don’t think anyone cares about this triangle.
You are so RIGHT. I think Chelsea Handler is the only one who cares about the Brad, Angie, Jennifer thing. Oh and the poor ex-makeup artist. She is probably not used to giving interviews and just screwed up a little. Angie, don’t fire her!!
Agreed. Much ado about nothing.
I find it very strange that JA & BP are connected through the media. They are both obviously living separate, different lives.
It would be kind of funny if they were bffs – at the awards shows they sneak off and smoke a dube in the arias.
Yup. And I agree that the makeup artist probably meant to say they USED to be good friends.
But didn’t Aniston met his kids? Maybe they are still friends.
When is that meeting to be precisely? Are you sure it wasn’t happening only in the gossip’s writer mind???
Totally, she babysat them while Brad was taking care of Angelina in hospital having her mastectomy. In fact, they’ve adopted her. She’s now Jennifex Jolie-Pitt.
Haha, Miffy, that must be it!
I know right. Can you imagine if 10 years after your divorce ALL anyone could ever talk about was one of your exes? Always the same one. Like you haven’t BOTH had a life since. Completely stuck in this non existing drama. I don’t know of any other celebrity couple this has been done to. Oh wait no I do Princess Di and Prince Charles. I guess it’s that notion of “the mistress got the husband in the end!” that leads to this kind of media obsession. No matter how many years have passed. This is really nuts.
I agree, can’t they all shut up about it and move on? We get it Brad, your life sucked while you were with Jen and now with Angie it’s everything you wanted and more. Great. Let’s move on now?
Amanda every interview that Jennifer has done always talks about how she is the happiest she has ever been. Never been happier. Happiest time of her life.
Now were is the outrage in her comments over the past 8 years. She said that her 30’s were not a good time for her. She was married to Brad during that time. Why didn’t the media scream she was dissing him.. Because God forbid Brad Pitt talk about his life. And the fact is she was a part of that life and he can speak of it all he wants. He has never said anything negative about her. despite the shit her friends say about him/angie..
Brad moved on the day he left. never looked back and he gets shit for that even til this day. How dare he be happy. Only Jen gets to have that.
I have to say, he was much more attractive when he was with Jenn.
I agree.He looked much better when he was with Aniston because she is average looking .Brad looks way gorgeous than her.But with Angelina, he is less attractive because Angie is stunning.
Ya whatever!
I kinda could believe that. When I see old pictures of him with Aniston, I always look at him first because he just stands out from her.
But with pictures with Angelina, I always want to see her first and see what she’s wearing. When he doesn’t have her at premiere like last years Cannes, its very boring and blah. But them both together on the red carpet like at Awards or Cannes, its so electrifying.
He was younger by 10-15 years in the anniston pics so it stands to reason that he looked better And of course one looks at brad in pics with anniston he is much prettier than anniston, but even he isnt prettier than jolie.
He was merely younger. I think Brad as dad is the most attractive version of Brad.
I agree.
People always say he looked better back then, well hell, I looked better a decade ago too (lol).
He DID look so much better then–and as others are pointing out, he was younger– much like Clooney, who looked amazing in his ER days.
It has nothing to do with who he dated.
Definitely nothing to do with who he dated. Just many different forms of attractiveness and not always correlating with youth.
He may have looked better but Brad as a father is my favorite version of him.
He was…now the unleashing he speaks of apparently included his personal hygiene. He’s always looked scurfy since he hooked up with St. Angie. She never looks complete to me..like something is missing. They both often look like they haven’t showered in days…weeks! Beautiful people…but not classy in any way, shape or form.
They both often look like they haven’t showered in days…weeks! Beautiful people…but not classy in any way, shape or form.
I rather you just said you don’t like them and will find any reason to dislike/hate then the horrible excuse that their not ‘classy’ and always ‘scruffy’. The truth always sounds better.
No Angelina doesn’t you’re making things up. She always looks clean and well-groomed. They are two classy good moral people its a shame you’re not.
Forgetting the homeless looking beard he was rocking with Aniston for a ruff 2yrs of their marriage, are we?
I think Brad Pitt in Moneyball is the hottest he ever was.
Yeah, he looks way better without the long hair, in my opinion. I remember when he did Moneyball and cut his hair for the film, he looked years younger without it. He still looks really good. Just cut the hair and keep the beard trimmed.
Not to throw shade at Jennifer Aniston, but his life is so much different now with Angelina. Being pretty/good looking was probably a much higher priority back then. Now, he’s jet setting and raising lots of kids, doing charity work, and involved in a lot more than things than just acting and hanging out on the beach. His prettiness is probably not a high priority anymore.
Exactly! Aniston made him get matching frosted highlights with her prior to the wedding. Can you imagine Angie being like that? Two completely different women.
I always thought he got sick and tired of playing Ken to Aniston’s Barbie.
I went back to look at old photos of the two of them – jennifer and brad – together and they just seemed more ‘natural’ together. He and Angelina just have such a cold vibe in how they come off together. She has done a masterful job of reinventing herself – but what is real? Then I was watching some old interviews with her (Angelina) and she was so much more engaging in the past. I just wonder about it all… they have been together awhile now but I don’t know. also, these quotes are sort of mean-spirited towards Jennifer. was that really necessary? could have been said so many ways… what is this goal into making Angelina into the ‘perfect woman’ by seemingly everyone on the planet? how with her crazy background did she switch it all around? it really is masterful but what’s real?
OMG….
Another Jenhen. Jeebus.
In the picture above, Jen and Brad look high. And Jen’s blue eyes are quite subdued, not as bright as they are today.
1998-2004: Brad’s Life: Getting drunk, getting high, no real work other than Ocean’s 11,12, no children. This is your life on drugs.
2005-2013: Brad’s Life: Increased sales for commercial ads, meets the love if his life, has six children, very happy, fanbase increases tenfold, A++ list, Successful PLan B production company, make it Right Foundation, Jolie-Pitt Foundation, Miraval Wines, Furniture making, architectural dabbling, world traveling. This is your life when you get involved, CHANGE, and leave the drugs alone.
Moral of the story: Drugs are bad for you, m-kay? Got it?
Oh, and so are neurotic insecure actresses.
For those who do not know HOW to change nor realize that they SHOULD CHANGE (Aniston and the JENHENS), this message will surely get lost in translation.
I’m more of a Jolie/Aniston-shipper. So over boring Bradley!
Jolie/Aniston? Sizzling 🙂
Josephina, you may disagree with me but there were certainly valid points within. It does not make me a “jenhen” — which of course you are using to just dismiss what I wrote. Nice tactic but not true. You did the same thing to LaurenH down further in the threads.
I like how you dismiss ‘us’ as “jenhens” and then go on to say how *perfectly wonderful* pitt’s life is with angelina. again not addressing anything I wrote really.
Sounds a bit like you’ve drunk the ‘kool-aid,’ if I do say so myself.
@cat1-
To your point that you feel that you had some valid points:
No, you did not have any. And that qualifies you as a Jenhen because after all that has happened over the years, including this interview and other interviews, you still want to believe that Brad really loved Jen. Ha Ha ha…
You have dismissed ALL of the FACTS, and DIRECT QUOTES from Aniston and Brad during their chid-free marriage. They had a shakey foundation and “their love” could NOT stand the test of time.
If a man marries you, but wishes to leave you shortly after the marriage begins (only 4 years- certainly NOT a lifetime), NOT work it out with you in his life and never return… were you the love of his life?
Jennifer was never Brad’s rock nor his “hero.” Angie IS Brad’s rock. FACT.
Aniston has been in therapy for over 20 years, including the entire marriage. Brad entered therapy within 1 year of marriage. Yet you think there was chemistry? It was the drugs, dear.
She stated that Brad was not the love of his life, she ridiculed Brad on Oprah while married telling everyone that he needs to pick up his s**t in the house, and HE called the marriage a “merger” and they will see where this thing (marriage) takes them. That is about as noncommittal as you can get.
BUT YOU say they look…natural. Who knows when Brad fell out of love with her. But it definitely happened well before he left the marriage. At the end of the day, the man is gone, never to return.
The comments appear mean-spirited towards Jen? It only hurts because jenhens are resisting the truth. The rest of us understand that Brad changed for the better. He explains when and why– 10 years ago because he wasting time getting high and not accomplishing anything. Jen hooked up with Brad at the LOWEST point of his life. HER CHOICE. Brad no longer wanted Jen in his life as HIS wife.
Deal with it.
Did he love her or not Josephina? First you say one, than the other. That was as far as I got with your post, because you obviously have a problem with reading comprehension. You rants have nothing to do with people’s posts.
@Cat1. I have noticed that Jen seemed to tuck herself in more, next to his side. Angie tends to want to appear independent, and to stand on her own. Brad looks the same to me, body language-wise. He is cupping Jen on her bum, like he is now fond of doing with Angie. He looks happy with her, just like he looks happy with AJ now. All these posters wanting to say that he loves AJ more, maybe might want to consider, that he loves her differently.
Ug hate posting from my phone!!
@Wilma – thanks for the chuckles 🙂 🙂
@Lulu (and CAT1):
“Did he love her or not Josephina? First you say one, than the other. ”
Did he love her? Not enough to spend the rest of his life with her…not long enough to keep any commitment with her…not hard enough to go through sickness and health and stand by her side…not available enough to attend the last show of Friends with her….not patient enough to wait as long as needed for her to have children whenever she was ready…not willing enough to compromise on having a large family…not deep enough to allow or encourage to her to grow and appreciate the results, if any. So, … if you can dismiss all those meaningful characteristics that make it worthwhile to be with somoeone, well, sure he loved her a WHOLE lot! LOL!
Aniston settled for a TROPHY HUSBAND, a spouse who would not commit to much of anything with her. She wanted to work on the marriage, he told her he wanted out. (READ THE 2005 VANITY FAIR ARTICLE.)
TODAY, Brad is happy, invested in his time, life, career, devotion, and deep love for Angie. He has the loving, large family he always wanted.
He looked boring then. He looks boring now. I’m happy for him that he’s happy or whatever, I guess, I don’t care, he’s boring. Always has been, always will be.
What’s interesting is watching comments on gossip sites about him. It always comes back to Jennifer Aniston one way or another, because there are a few people who are obsessed with these particular rich white smug people as a traignle, and who think if you say something positive about one, you must be thinking something negative about another, and vice versa. I don’t get why that is, but it’s fascinating to watch.
I don’t really think of them as smug, maybe they are but I’ve never met them. All three are kind of boring TBH. I find it hilarious to read the hysterical posts one way or the other where St Angie and Stoner Jen duel forever over the pretty boy. Spare me. Angie is no saint and Jen is no reject, get over it Josephna. Posting obnoxious statements hardly furthers your cause.
@Nina W-
Your ability to grasp reading comprehension skills are your burden, not mine. Those that defend Aniston are able to identify with her character, aka “Jenhen.”
Not one of my comments suggest Angie is a saint. Not one. They reflect that I like her choices in life, I love how she is courageous. I can see why Brad calls her his hero. She adapts quickly and can adjust to anything life throws at her. Got it?
My comments about Jen are also consistent. A divorce from a man that really did not love her and got high all the time practically derailed her ego and spurred on a pity-party to span 8-9 years. Not impressive at all.
Angie, like most women, would never allow herself to be defined by a divorce. It may happen but it will never be the most important event in the journey of life.
Aniston makes lousy choices LATE in life, (men, movie roles, interview topics, scripts, etc.). She demonstrates aversion to change and appears stunted in growth. At age 44 she does not appear to have evolved in any way.
Most of us get that it is necessary to evolve in order to adapt and accept future challenges in our lives and to GROW, and/or grow up. Aniston is really no different today than from 1998.
If she was 22 or 23 years old she would be easier to take in. We would say, “Meh… she is young and she will learn.”
She is 44 years old and behaves like a woman-child to the point that her friends (Sandler, Handler, Bateman, Cox, etc.) have felt or feel the need to defend her or state what she is not able to say on her own. The Jenhens are unable to see that she simply lacks self-awareness… at age 44.
If you are human like the rest of us, tell us how you look ten or more years later and middle aged, so silly as if Brad Pitt is some kind of sub-human Brad Pitt is still one of the best looking men in Hollywodd if not the best looking. Personally I think that he choose to look that way bearded and all so that people would stop concentrating on his looks and see that the person beneath is more than just a good looking face.
Well this should be fun…
I love looking at photos of Brad with all his girlfriends over the years. He’s just so matchy-matchy with whoever he’s dating. It was fun when he was with Jennifer in the early 2000’s because she tried a few different things and we got boho Brad, Ken doll Brad and biker Brad in quick succession, but the best will always be the haircut and dye job Brad got to match GOOP.
Did Brad really cut and dye to match Goop? I assumed it was the reverse!
It was. He got I think for Seven Years in Tibet and she followed. I don’t if for her it was for a role or something else.
@LL:
I think Goop got hers done for Sliding Doors, but I could be wrong.
He already had the basic cut I guess, but it wasn’t nearly as blond and he was styling it entirely differently. Then GOOP got her Sliding Doors haircut and dye job, and Brad immediately ran out an got a full head of matching highlights and started flat-ironing and severe side-parting so they could be twinsies. That one picture where they look like freaky clones is everywhere, but for as long as she stuck with that haircut, however she styled it Brad copied it. When it was sleek so was his, when it was spiky so was his. When she went a couple of shades lighter so did he. Say what you want about GOOP, she has her own style and she doesn’t change it to morph with the man she’s currently with, so imo it was all him. They were the same with fashion. When they first got together he was still very Midwestern, but before long he was doing the 90’s minimalism thing with her. She stuck with her Calvin Klein phase for years after they broke-up, and Brad moved onto Jennifer and started fake-tanning and living in cargo pants.
BTW I remember all this crap because it was practically a drinking game for me and my gossip obsessed roommates in the 90’s.
Brad had no choice about the hairdo for Seven Years in Tibet (SYIT)- he was playing an actual person, whom the Dalai Lama really called “yellow hair”. Goop’s character was fictional, so she certainly could have had a number of OTHER hairdos to copy- oh, well. I loved that movie, I was young when I saw it, but I recall thinking how beautiful it was and how sad it is the way that there is so much man-made strife in the world. Time to re-watch, I think. Seeing some of the 1st photos of Brad & Maddox & getting a bit of a SYIT vibe- so CUTE!
@Jess, who wrote: “I love looking at photos of Brad with all his girlfriends over the years. He’s just so matchy-matchy with whoever he’s dating.”
I’ve never quite understood why Brad is the only actor who changes his look to mirror his woman, but other actresses and actors who change their hair/looks are obviously doing it for a role.
Just like the Jolie-Pitts can’t step outside with their kids–even four months apart–without it being a ‘PR’ trick for attention, yet when other celebrity couples are photographed out and about with their kids on a daily basis it’s ‘cute.’
Example: in 2006 Brad went dark brown with his hair. People all around the Internet said that Brad was copying Angelina, as her hair was dark brown at the time. Turned out Brad had gone dark for his role in “The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford.”
Oh come on now, Brad’s ever shifting style has been a topic of discussion for decades now, long before he got together with Angelina or even Jennifer. I don’t know how anyone could look at pictures of him with women over the years and not notice that he always dresses to their style, whatever it is. If his girl is wearing leather so is he. If she’s doing the boho thing he’s in tie dye. If she’s into layering and black, so is he. If she’s got a laid-back Malibu vibe going he’s bringing out the linen suits and cream v-necks.
He did it with Christina Applegate, Robin Givens, Juliette Lewis and so on and on. He wasn’t constantly buying whole new wardrobes because of movie roles. He’s even talked about how he’s a bit of a sponge.
And every big name Hollywood family who’s kids get papped is accused of playing the PR game, because let’s face it, they are. Jennifer Garner get’s a lot more flack than Brangelina. Some celebrities go to great lengths to ensure their kids faces are never in tabloids (Johnny Depp and Matt Damon come to mind, I don’t even know their kids names and come to think of it I’m not even sure how many Matt has, despite being a fan), others make their families a massive part of their public persona. It’s not necessarily the wrong choice, but it is a choice.
@Jess, who wrote: “Oh come on now, Brad’s ever shifting style has been a topic of discussion for decades now, long before he got together with Angelina or even Jennifer.”
My point is … Brad Pitt is an actor who has been in 43 films. He has had a different look for 98% of his films. Doesn’t it stand to reason that the ‘changes’ you and your friends obsessed over had less to do with who he was dating and more to do with a role for whatever film he was shooting at the time? Just saying.
It’s called ‘Method’ acting … where the actor adopts as many qualities for the role in real life as the character they’re playing. Instead of wearing fake beards, wigs, or wearing padding, etc. method actors actually grow the beard (Ben Affleck “Argo”), lose the weight (Anne Hathaway “Les Miserables” and Matt Damon “Courage Under Fire”), gain the weight (Robert DiNero “Raging Bull” and Matt Damon “The Informant!”) shave their head (Anne Hathaway “Les Miserables” and Matt Damon “Elysium”).
He did it for Christina Applegate? They went out only once to the MTV award show.
He dated Robin Givens for a LONG 6 months. When does a tall, blonde-blue-eyed white guy start looking like a petite, pretty, Black girl?
If you look at any photos/movies of the Brat Pack back in the 80’s most of those guys dress the same. The women were following Madonna’s dress code.
If I recall when Brad started dating GOOP she was this tall, skinny girl with no style and had long, flat, limped hair. She was another one that you looked at Brad first just like Juliette and Aniston.
Pitt is no “method” actor, don’t make me laugh, who has he studied under? He’s no Brando, no Daniel Day Lewis, defend him if you will but don’t pretend he is more than he is.
Jess, you are spot on. That Brad copies his women is so obvious it is not even up for debate. The photographic evidence abounds, and the Gwyneth matching hair pics are amazIng ;-).
People love to bring up the past, they need to let it go.
Jennifer has moved on.
Brad and Angie are still together and clearly much in love.
I can’t see this woman releasing a statement after two decades of working with him WITHOUT his consent, if she did, she’s SOL.
there are so many other things she could have said about why the marriage ended… it’s all about making angelina seem like the “perfect woman” (perhaps to some) and … brad ‘got’ her. There’s something just off … I’m sorry I know people want to believe it’s all great.
Give it rest already.
have no idea what you mean.
you’re reading a celeb gossip site. I actually think I am saying something few are but maybe should be!
Cat1 I think most people know what they should or shouldn’t be saying and that passing judgment on what is a solid union and two good people is really off and poor form. Think first.
It does seem strange that she’s gone out of her way to give a quote about Brad & Jennifer’s relationship. I have heard that Angie is on good terms with exes, maybe he is wishes to appear the same? I can’t imagine that his makeup artist would suddenly speak out of turn after all these years?
I think he gives the people around him permission to speak about him BUT I don’t think he would have signed off on that bit simply because of the rabid fans. I agree that it’s probably just mistaken verb tense.
I wish the dumb triangle would go away already, 10 years people, MOVE ON
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+2 Yep. I don’t think this was his doing.
Picture reminds me how Jen’s nose has changed.
@Taxi, who wrote: “Picture reminds me how Jen’s nose has changed.”
The pictures remind me of just how stumpy this chick is and always has been. Just look at her nonexistent waist in both pictures,
The top picture reminds me that Jen is a huge pothead. LOL!! She looks stoned, but Brad doesn’t. 🙂
I thought her little sausage nose was cute, and made her unique. It was her best nose IMO.
World War Z marketting strategy. Hes really pulling out the big guns 1. Implicitly bring up ex wife 2. Play up happy marriage with fellow super star 3. Bring out the babies. Predictable. Boring. Next.
Absolutely! I don’t think this man has EVER worked as hard at promoting a movie. It just wreaks of desperation!
Seems to me that he really aren’t ‘pulling all the stops’, in the way you laid out. If anything, he’s doing a sort of grass roots promotion-doing early screening and relying on positive Twitter buzz, which is interesting in that if it succeeds, it could cast some doubt on those insiders who were so certain that the movie was a dismal fail.
Please tell us all the stops he pulled out for this movie. A interview for Esquire Magazine? For Moneyball/Tree of Life, Brad appeared on most Morning TV shows,Charlie Rose, Jon Stewart. He was on no less than 5 Major Magazine covers. Attended Cannes and Toronto Film Festivals,
I’ve heard of only a few events he’s appeared at for this movie.. Sho-West in Las vegas, pre screenings for Film critics and recently in New Jersey for fans.
Aniston and Pitt look so stoned in that first picture.
Aniston, not so much. Pitt, out of his mind!
I think it’s the other way around. Look at her eyes. Lol
Oh please … you don’t think Jen looks stoned???
I think this photos was carefully chosen because it’s one of the less flattering ones. This one catches her in mid-blink.
She could just as easily be blinking while the flash is going…(I do this all the time.)
The undeniable part is that schnoz, she sure was beatin with the ugly stick. What a major nose job she had on it(deviated septum my ass)it’s not remotely the same.
now, if only she could get those rodent sized ears of hers taken care of.
@Esmom, who wrote: “I think this photos was carefully chosen because it’s one of the less flattering ones. This one catches her in mid-blink.”
Don’t you mean, ‘mid-toke?’ 🙂
A blink does not cause your eyes to move, certainly not in the directions they are moving in the first pic.
Oh for Pete’s sake, the photo is not proof she is stoned! So maybe she didn’t blink. Maybe she was rolling her eyes at something. The photogs take gazillions of shots and I’m sure the vast majority catch the subject with some sort of weird facial expression.
Personally, I have very few photos of myself because my eyes always seem to be half mast so I end up trashing them.
Take a chill pill Esmom.
He may have “looked better” when he was with Jennifer but in all the pics with Jenn his eyes are dead and with Angie they look content and happy with life.
He has said it himself. He was a mess around that time, using a lot.
Glad he snapped out of it. Mny times when people stop using, the marriages and relationships end anyway, because people are not on the same boat, and the other one may not accept the new changes, since it is more comfortable to live with what you are used to.
In my opinion, that marriage was doomed anyway
I have always thought so too. His eyes look so dead in the pics of him and J A, compared to the pics of him and AJ. He seems to have found what he’s looking for in life.
And I think him and JA both look high as he11 in that first pic
I guess this isn’t going to end until it’s ALL about Jennifer.
Someone makes a point that he wasn’t a bad guy and it never ends with a tabloid orgy of Brad bashing.
I see nothing wrong with what she said. It’s true and we all can see that.
I agree with you, but that’s not the part that jumps out at me. It’s the “they’re still friends” part. That’s a BIG verb tense to mess up, isn’t it? And it kinda gives creedence to the idea that Brad and Jen are friends who privately have decided that when promoting movies, it’s ok to say semi-controversial things about their relationship…as long as it sells movie tickets. And this helps World War Z AND We’re the Millers. 2 birds, 1 stone.
I think she was just trying to be diplomatic, and in saying “they’re very good friends,” she really meant “they are not enemies, it’s all water under the bridge.”
I think people are reading way too much into what seems to be a fairly offhand comment.
@Esmom : ITA. I don’t think there’s more to that statement.
I believe Aniston’s father was telling the truth when he said they never speak. Doug Pitt said that they hadn’t spoke in 8 or 9 years, so that seems consistent. Not to mention that they were in the same room when Aniston crashed the Oscars and Brad totally ignored her. If you read the whole thing, Jean B seemed to make the Aniston comment as a way to be “nice” because she had said so many complementary things about how great Brad & Angie are together, how being with Angie so was amazing and transformational in such a truly positive way for Brad, etc. It’s sad that people have to be on such eggshells about a women who is pushing 50 with plenty of $$, BUT Aniston & her million dollar PR LOVE to keep the victim narrative alive, which is despicable.
She was being polite. I don’t think they are still friends.
@mccora96
I think you hit the nail on the coffin.
After 8 years of letting her and her friends write the script, I’m so happy that he finally let the cat out of bag though via his close confidantes.. But, the truth is JA is boring, stuck in her own ways.. wishes it was 1998. But John Mayer said the same thing. I’m only 32 years old , I don’t want to sit around in a kitchen petting dogs”. “I want to be adventurous”. It just makes me believe that JA is paying for JT to be around her. Every man that she’s dated pre or post Brad said pretty much the same thing or alluded that she’s not all that and a bag of chips.
I think JA is very insecure about her looks.. She reminds me so much of Streisand. She didn’t want Jay Mohr to play opposite of her. Which he commented about (how mean she was to him and wanted him fired). I’m sure she thought her Male Lead should have been Leo, Johnny, Tom, George, Brad or whoever else was hot in the mid 90’s.. Just like Barbra (whom I love) but could anyone believe Robert Redford would fall in love with Babs in the ” The way we were”??. JA is not unattractive, but she’s not sexy. Susanne Somers wasn’t Beautiful, but she was sexy. There are women in HW that are lucky to have both.. Sexy and Beautiful. Unfortunately, JA doesn’t fit either.
I agree. Brad went from being a pretty-boy actor–and not much else–to being heavily involved in charities, directing movies, and raising a slew of kids.
Maybe Angie sparked that. Or maybe she just supported him as he made the changes himself. Either way, she was part of him turning his life around.
Brad’s never directed. If you meant producing he actually started that with Jennifer (as in actually with her, they founded a production company with Brad Grey, Pitt got it in the settlement).
But yeah, Angelina definitely influenced his philanthropic endeavors.
They formed the company plan B, yes. However, they never produced anything together. like you said he got it in the divorce and began with movies like…a mighty heart, the departed etc
Aniston went on to produce her own movies like…wait for it…the bounty hunter
Wow! Just wow! Is it really necessary to say such degrading and childish things about her???
I mean sheesh…u would think she stole something/someone from the lot of you. Does it really make either person any better. Seriously… Dis jenhen/ brangelonie stuff is utter rubbish!
You can’t have an opinion on one without being called a name? Y’all need to get a grip!! For serious…lol. Grown women acting this way is disturbing…carry on though…just needed to vent.😳
@ contrived
I think she did not produce that one, but just some tv projects and that Management film that not even her fans saw, and the switch (aka) the baster.
Salma hayek Aniston is not.
Salma has produced a handful of smallish, but meaningful movies, dignified vehicles for herself and her culture.
I would like to see Aniston producing something meaningful, maybe related to her Greek roots. She has the money for it.
Nothing wrong with what Jean said.
PLEASE STOP.
It’s 2013 for Godsake, can we talk about something else, something different than “how miserable was Brad 10 years ago??”.
Thanks.
He used his producer at plan B, makeup artist, and designer. All are on his payroll. This is just confirmation that he chased jolie and needed her to be what he is today. world traveler, humanitarian, adventure seeker. Without Brad angelina would be the same person she is now, without Angelina brad would still be a vapid Hollywood ken doll.
The shackles are off, Brad can say what he likes and for the first time since his divorce he can allow his friends and colleagues to speak on his behalf.
Besides JA will be able to continue the pity party if she wants,by saying how terrible he was to live with.
So its all good.
Exactly.
@gennline post #20.
I agree with everything you said.
Whats wrong with this site today? The reply button doesnt seem to working.
Oops double post.
@Genline : And the fans from both sides can continue arguing. LOL. 😉
I know, right? I think people are attracted to certain kinds of people depending on where they are at that particular point in their life – and we’re always evolving. The type of guys I dated in my teens and 20’s are nothing like the one I married. In fact, sometimes I look back and and wonder “what was I thinking?” Brad’s love life trends his evolution and search for self. We all do that. We all take on bits and pieces of the people we’re with. Some people, like Brad, do it more than others – which isn’t a crack on him. It’s just indictative of a person searching for personal truth and center, which I think he’s finally found.
I think that is a good and fair observation.
Plus JA has CH to bad mouth Angelina regularly.
ETA this was supposed to appear in reply to @gennline’s post #20; the reply button is a bit off 🙂
agree. I think he’s probably a decent person but this is true. I was watching an interview they both did and he tried to talk about what they were doing (“philanthropic” and he just couldn’t carry it off. But there have to be balances in relationships and they found some sort of balance between their personalities … whether that will fizzle out one day we’ll see.
+1 LOL!
+1 LOL!!
This 10,000!!! I always thought this. He won the lottery by dating AJ. AJ has been AJ for a long time. One of the few powerful women in Hollywood who doesn’t have publicist and who knows how to use the media to her advantage, smart woman. Him? Not so much… But I give him credit for the life change, but his team and himself needs to shut up. It seems he is trying to give an excuse to his cheating ways.
@LoL, who wrote: “world traveler, humanitarian, adventure seeker. Without Brad angelina would be the same person she is now, without Angelina brad would still be a vapid Hollywood ken doll.”
That’s not true. Brad has always loved to travel and see the world. He and Goop did a bit of traveling, and they lived in one or two different cities around the world as well.
I don’t ever remember reading about Brad and Jennifer traveling or living in another city/country for a while (and not just when making a film), like he did with Goop and does with Angelina.
*Yawn* Move on, folks, nothing new to see here.
maybe brad and his makeup artist should move on. They obviously want us to talk about how he cheated or why he couldn’t stand to be in his marriage anymore. 8years later he’s still trying to explain why he cheated.
Or maybe you haven’t gotten over the “Golden Couple” divorcing. I don’t understand why you are so invested (especially from comments you left in the post and probably others) in Pitt or Jolie if you dislike them so much.
Maybe you should be like this with Jen Aniston and her breaking up her fiance relationship whom he was with for 14 years. But I doubt you’ll call her out.
LL, lol, I’m an Angelina fan. I couldn’t care less about “the golden couple” I don’t even post in Jennifer threads or threads about Pitt if it doesn’t mention the Jolie. jean black with the okay from Brad Pitt brought up the cheating scandal, I didn’t. Why else bring it up if you don’t want publicity from it? I won’t mention the Jolie’s mastectomy being used by Brad for publicity because those comments don’t get posted 🙂 .
I replied because that’s what we do on this site. For some reason the person I was replying to -LAMA- got deleted.
@ LOL-
So… you are going to ignore Jennifer, Courtney Cox, Brad and Angie’s Statements? All of which are unanimous and consistent that there was no cheating?
Well, without the cheating rumor the Jenhens are rebels without a cause…
Aniston hooked up with Vince, a costar of Brad and Angie in Mr. And Mrs. Smith, 1 month after shoots ended in April 2005. That does not bother you?
Brad begins dating Jolie, and Aniston shags the other co-star???? Can you say tacky and classless???
AND THEN she cries to Vanity Fair in August 2005 months later… AFTER she has had some of Vince, wets her whistle and found that it was not enough for her to forget Brad yet…but continues to date him for another year!
SMH.
Gotta love the Jenhens! They shoot themselves in the foot every time they speak. Triangle indeed!
Holla! perfectly stated Josephina.
Honey, if you call yourself an Angelina fan, I would hate to see how you talk about people you really don’t like. You trash her and Brad every chance you get.
I see this site still doesn’t want to admit that Brad is using everything he can to sell wwz. Yes, he is worse than Tom Cruise.
WWZ has been in production for so long and being talked about/hyped for so long that I forget that the movie hasn’t even come out yet. Based on it’s shelf life, it seems it should already be on DVD.
Here’s the thing about Brad Pitt: he’s a male chameleon. He’s said in many interviews that he went out to Hollywood to find himself; a curious place to do that given his chosen career of pretending to be other people. Unsatisfied, Brad seems to seek out his identity through the women he’s with. With Gwyneth, he was all edgy and “it” boy, dedicated to his craft of acting (it was during this period that he won his Golden Globe). With Jennifer, he was all California stoner/slacker. With Angelina, he saw an opportunity to try on another identity: global philanthropist, activist and Dad. Of all his incarnations, this one seems to make him happiest, but he didn’t arrive at that place organically and then meet someone with common interests. He simply hopped on a moving train headed toward a new destination and once there…when in Rome.
No. You Jenhens are unbelievable! You are just as neurotic as Maniston.
BEFORE he met Angie he began touring with BONO for humanitarian purposes in Africa, and Jen did not want to go. THAT opened his eyes.
PLUS he was coming off the druggie haze. PLUS you must have forgotten that there were pictures of Jen NOT wearing her ring the summer/fall 2004. And they were separated at least 6 months for his shooting of Troy in Malta, in which she only visited once.
I know you all think he is not smart enough to make a decision on his own. And that is what kills you. “How in the world did Brad hook Angie?”
He went after Angie with much gusto—she did not lead him astray. The entire world saw it and there are pictures to prove it.
The truth still hurts, huh? Still trying to twist it into something other than a love story.
Aniston stated her marriage ended as peacefully as it started AND you Jenhens STILL CANNOT ACCEPT IT.
Why were you not up in arms about her humping Vince Vaughn BEFORE she was divorced??
Answer that.
I literally have no idea what you’re on about. My post was not pro/anti Jennifer or Angelina. My post was an observation that Brad is heavily influenced by the women he’s with. I never said Angie “hooked” him. In fact, I said nothing about any of his relationships other than how he has personally changed from relationship to relationship. As to “answer that” – there’s nothing to answer given that your question is completely irrelevent to my post.
That someone says something that is not fulminous praise of Brad and Angelina does not mean they’re pro-Jennifer Aniston. Neither Brad Pitt nor Angelina Jolie are perfect angels who descended from heaven to bless us with their perfect hotness and talent and love and righteousness. Nor is Jennifer Aniston an evil devil from hell sent to ruin all that is good in the world. One can like Angelina without disliking Jennifer.
And one can have something not-fawning to say about Brad Pitt without it meaning a thing about either Jolie or Aniston. I have been bored with Brad Pitt since long before he had a relationship with Jennifer Aniston. I still maintain that he’s boring, both in looks and in personality, though he’s an acceptable actor.
@lauren H-
My point to you is that Brad IS his own man. YOU are over simplifying his accomplishments.
I gave you the facts about him growing in self knowledge in HIS journey of life . All you saw was that he matched outfits and hair with the woman he dated.
The Make It Right Foundation belongs to Brad. The successful Plan B Production Company belongs to Brad. Neither GOOP nor Aniston could even conceive such a concept nor make it successful. The Miraval Wine winery is a joint effort as is the Jolie-Pitt Foundation. I have not listed everything Brad has accomplished, but I have listed SOME of his American accomplishments.
Seriously! And you KNOW without a doubt, and have proof that Aniston “humped” Vince Vaughn while STILL married to Pitt…. STHU! You have NO proof, and to state such BS is irresponsible and delusional.
Oh come on Eli, even Aniston herself admitted when she was in a relationship with Vaughn, and it was before her and Pitt were divorced. Even Aniston fans know this.
When Brad was not doing movies in the time of the ex, he was almost always letting his hair and horrible beard grow. It is not a new thing.
He was probably more into fashion back then. To me, he is still the more or less the same lookswise, just older loving his bikes, his old boots, keeping his body in nice shape, just sometimes thinner or thicker. What has changed isthe color of his shirts.
They probably wear the same clothes to turn off the paps and diminish the value of the pics.
He always cleans up well for the premieres, and he changes his hair color and style for his pictures. Nothing new.
He used to be sold as a hearthrob, he used to look the part, but now he is almost fifty. He has to change somethig, unlike others who never change, not even for a movie.
Good and thoughtful post – I didn’t think a man could be influenced by women in this way but you are totally right on with this.
Oh get over it people, who the hell cares if they are friends or not? This is truly pathetic even more so than discussing religion., like who holds the HOLY TRUTH.
Oh, man, this horse is a little bit too dead for a beating.
Sorry Brad, no matter how much PR you do, your WWZ is going to bomb.
LaurieH. I agree with your observation about Brad and I like both him and Angelina. All couples influence each other to some extent as I am sure Brad has influenced Angelina too. Well, I think he did influence her creatively because she started picking less sucky scripts after they got together after a string of bombs. There is nothing wrong with that. I much prefer someone who is self aware enough and constantly evolve than a man perpetually stuck at the same age and never changing. Who cares if he needed someone like Angelina to propel him into taking more control in his life? Most people will respond better to external rather than internal stimuli. The seed was already planted in his mind that he wanted something else out of life, something more meaningful and he met Angelina at the right moment. Had they met 5 years earlier they would have disliked each other immensely I think. He was not punk/ rugged enough for her and she too crazy and unstable for him.
I find it hilarious that whenever Brad mentions that he found his life empty and superficial in the past, the JenHens just blithely go on saying that he used to look good.
Because most Jenhens are as superficial as she is. “Jen’s so hot! She has such great hair! She has such a great body!” They never mention anything about her brains or her talent or her personality, probably because they realize she doesn’t have any.
The reason why people tended to look at Brad in the Anniston/Pitt years was because he was the good husband and so our eyes gravitated to him. In the Jolie/Pitt marriage our eyes are drawn to Jolie because she was portrayed as the villain.
ya ooohkay….it couldn’t be that Angelina is stunningly beautiful…lol..no never…
give it up.
Aniston was and is clearly quite homely.
whilst Angelina is clearly a knock out.
forget eye of the beholder shit this is pretty basic stuff.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Careful now, they cannot handle your truth. Because you said that, I betcha one of them got mad and hurried off this thread in a huff.
There is no way they are friends. What would they talk about? His children, Angie? JA does not now nor did she ever want to hear this. Nope, don’t see it.
I thought we were in 2013, I guess I was wrong…
Every movie star promotes their movies…. sheesh. It’s contrived cos as advertising, it has to be. Hmm.
I bet Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Jennifer Aniston and Justin Theroux all get together for dinner on a regular basis and just laugh and laugh at all the speculation about the hate amongst them. Crack open a few bottles of wine and place $10,000 bets about what the next rumour will be, then they all collectively tuck the kids in bed — “G’night, Aunty Jen!” and all that. I just seriously doubt it’s as hatey as it’s made out to be.
Wonder what they say to Aunty Chelsea……
I really doubt Brad and Angie think about Jennifer. And if Jennifer is happy with Justin she would not be thinking about her ex and his family. My thing is what does Justin think about this constant association. I don’t think men like it when the woman they are in love with are constantly tied to her past. There have been several men in her life after Brad. But the media acts as if she as some closeted virgin for years.
Brad and Jennifer had different friends when they were together. I don’t see hate. I see indifference.
@ I completely agree with you.
(BTW, Kaiser, you set a trap for the Jenhens with that 10 year old photo and they fell for it! LOL!)
Poor Justin’s signficance gets lost in chasing what Brad implied, said or says. Jenhens are just not that into Justin. Brad is not responsible for Jen’s well being… Justin is!
Brad does not have to worry about ANY of Angie’s exes stealing or sharing the spotlight with him.
Eight years and counting…Ahh, the power of Brad. Aniston needs to sew Justin’s balls back on. Or buy him a new set.
Justin is about to marry Aniston and permanently live under Brad’s huge shadow.
What real man do you know would put up with this?
I don’t think her fans get that. They cast Brad shadow so big in her life. One minute they are claiming that Brad regrets leaving her, then she left him, then she doesn’t care about him, then he is always dissing her and on and on.
and as you said no one in Angie’s life is ever made to be more important then Brad. Sure the media/and haters have tried to come up with dumb lies about Angie meeting BBT or some secret whatever but it doesn’t stick. Only in the heads of the haters, but the medid/TV does not entertain that at all. Angie exes are the past. Brad is the present. But when it come to Jennifer no matter who she is with it is always the Shadow of Brad over everything. And even not being a fan of her, I find that rather sad. She has a man; engaged and getting married. But Justin even after 2 years is still in the background. Somebody that is just there. and her fans can say whatever they want on this site about how hot and “better than Brad’ he is (because it is again always comparing some guy to brad) they are not excited by this union. And funny thing the media either. Happy Justin/Jennifer just doesn’t sell.
so let’s fall back on Brad.
If I was Brad and I met Angelina back then I would be soaring too. She already had a reputation that preceded her as an adventurous, rebellious, and sexy woman not to mention being world renowned for her beauty. Besides the fact that he wanted to do more with his life then be a vapid movie star getting high all the time. If I was married to a boring, self absorbed, ugly chick like Jennifer Aniston and met an interesting and stunning woman like Angelina I’d jump ship too. Can’t blame him. Look where he is now: gorgeous fiance, 6 kids, and a globe trotting philanthropist. He transformed his life and found the right helpmate for the kind of meaningful existence he wanted to live.
YES!
@Kaiser- completely agree with you.
1) I’d hardly call anything Brad said in his recent Esquire interview a “revelation.”
2) The hyperbolization of the Jolie-Pitt union needs to be taken down … by several notches: “Legendary”?
3) Eye witnesses like this makeup artist really ought to refrain from using phrases like “ready to soar” when talking about Pitt, given his alleged love of certain intoxicants. That’s pun fodder right there.
4) Jennifer Aniston has a LOT of hair in the second pic.
No matter how old Brad is, he’s such a gorgeous man! In his younger years, he was so very beautiful but at an older age, he’s still very handsome. I think Angelina brings out the best in him.
Side note: Angie lost her maternal aunt today to breast cancer.
I heard. Sad news…
I wonder if the Jenhens that posted here and other related posts would like to retract their silly statements that Brad and/or Angie did the announcement of the mastectomy just to encourage ticket sales for the movie WWZ or that it was premature and not necessary for Angie to remove her breasts….
Don’t hold your breath waiting.
They won’t retract any of that. You would have to have compassion to do that. But I’m sure they will try and spin it another way. Hate is that way. and sad to say some people are so vested in it they can’t see reason.
For anyone with reason could understand her decision. I didn’t need to hear about the loss of her aunt to understand why she chose to have the surgery.
prayers to her family.
After reading some of the comments about drugs and going back and looking at the photos of Brad and JA, I realized they are both stoned. Why did Jennifer Aniston want to hold on or stay in a marraige like that? Even now on her way to the alter with Justin Theroux she seem to be concentrating on Brad Pitt. Hopefully this year they are both going to get married and this triangle will finally come to an end.
If you are correct and she is still concentrating on Brad Pitt, Theroux needs to bail out of that mess STAT before it’s too late. No man needs to go into a marriage with all that leftover baggage coming in with him.
@ Floretta50 AND Janet:
These hens have twisted this article into “Oh Brad, how could you hurt our Jen…all over again? (Sniffs and sobs.)” In other words, they latched onto a perceived slight against Jen and lost it.
Reality check: The only person responsible for Jen’s well-being is Justin Theroux. It is abundantly clear that Brad is ONLY focused on his future wife Angie.
Instead of Aniston coattailing everything Brad/Angie, she should turn the page.
Consider Julia Roberts. She wrestled Danny Moder away from his wife… now they are happily married with three children. Julia Roberts does not check to see what Benjamin Bratt, Kiefer Sutherland, Liam Neeson, Dylan McDermott, Daniel Day Lewis, or Lyle Lovitt are saying or doing. She is not concerned with whom they are with or how many babies they have.
She chose love over fame.
Liam Neeson, Dylan McDermott, Daniel Day Lewis
I knew about the others, but she with these three also. I could Dylan McDermott b/c of Steel Magnolia but when was she with the others?
LL:
Liam Neeson was in her early 20’s before Kiefer Sutherland. Daniel Day Lewis was after Dylan McDermott.
There was a show on TV (cannot recall the name right now) where they reviewed Julia Roberts’ life and of course, went through her movie career timeline. This information is also found on some internet sites.
@ Josephina
Thanks, I had no idea about those guys.