This sort of surprises me, although I don’t know why it would. These are photos of Erin Heatherton in a bandage dress, arriving at a Victoria’s Secret store for some kind of store event in New York City. As you can see, Erin is enjoying some last drags from a cigarette before she goes into the store to do her appearance.
So, why does this surprise me? I assume that most models live on Diet Coke and cigarettes anyway, although almost all of them deny it and claim that they eat real food (“Of course, I love French fries!” says every model everywhere, always) and they all claim to live healthy lives. So, while it doesn’t surprise me to learn that a model has a secret life as a smoker, it surprises me that she doesn’t really care if she’s pap’d with a cigarette. Usually, a model would have dropped her cig, popped a Tic Tac and pretended that no one saw her with the cig so she would keep her “healthy, wholesome” image.
Also, I guess this shouldn’t surprise me because Erin was with Leo DiCaprio for a while, and he’s a smoker too. Although Leo has traded in his ciggies for the E-cigarette, which is just water vapor (not smoke).
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
Her body, her choice.
I’m completely against that view when it comes to smoking. I knew an older lady who was a waitress…she got lung cancer and she NEVER touched a cigarette. It was from second hand smoke from smokers in the restaraunts. If people want to smoke, smoke at home. Not in public. Even then you’d just give cancer to your family members. So it’s not her body, it’s everyone else’s too
Yes! Thank you! It’s one of the most inconsiderate health habits.
Unless she’s outside, which she is…
Liv
I have asthma and if someone is smoking outside and it hits me I will start wheezing. My asthma is worse than the average so persons, but still. There’s a fine line here. I see both sides, but my personal views are blurring the details.
And VS tries so hard to project the healthy model image. Here and there the models will tell the truth about how they dehydrate and starve themselves before shows, but this is a model not representing her employer very well.
@Andrew, lighten up please. Life is so much nicer when you allow other people some freedom and stop acting like self-righteous busybodies.
@FLORC,
I feel for you. My mother has asthma and even the cigarette smoke smell on clothing can trigger an attack. I’m so relieved that I don’t live next door to smokers anymore.
FLORC, I feel for you too. I don’t smoke and can’t stand it when someone smokes in my face or my direction. I think it’s okay when they are outside though, but you have a point.
Sorry, but smokers are inconsiderate assholes. No one can convince me otherwise.
I was gonna say what Andrew already said— if it were chewing tobacco, no one would care, but the SMOKE goes into the environment- plants, animals, and humans all have to inhale it, smell its ferocious stinky odor, and possibly develop health problems as a result of it. I do NOT like the fact that when I am in my own house, and open the window, I often smell someone else smoking, or, when I go out to a public place in the open air, there are people smoking on either or all sides of me.
Its NOT RIGHT, and no one accuses them of littering when they throw the butts on the ground, nor of polluting the air we all breathe— but they do!
Do not EVER flush your toilet , you cannot imagine the EVIL you are doing to the environment , better, do not own a toilet, or a HOUSE, or whatever!
people have been smoking for thousands of years. The Egyptians cultivated tobacco and hashish. its gonna happen
I’ve heard cigarette butts are the number one source of litter clogging up city sewers and I can believe it because no one treats it like littering. Why is that?
I’ve had many outdoor concerts ruined because the people next to me chose to light up (pot,cigarettes, or both). And when I lived in an apartment, I’d always dread when a smoker moved in. There’s nothing you can do to escape or mitigate the smoke smell.
@mercy “I can believe it because no one treats it like littering. Why is that?”
The same can be asked about gum. People spit gum out anywhere they feel necessary.
When local government offices went smoke-free a long time ago, a major issue was the extra cleaning expense because of the smoke. Also newer buildings have offices far away from a window and cleaning the air becomes a major problem. I grew up in the era when everybody smoked on tv and in the movies and cigarette ads and smokers of all ages were everywhere. It was really hard on me because ciggie smoke inflames my lungs and makes me cough a long time. Some so-called friends in college thought it was so funny to blow smoke at me and watch me cough for 15 minutes… Needless to say, I have absolutely no sympathy for smokers who think their rights are being trod upon now that I can actually breathe in stores and restaurants that are off-limits to smokers. It used to be quite the other way around, there was no chance to get away from the smoke. The e-ciggies sound wonderful. My suggestion years ago was that the smokers should wear space helmets….
TeeHee, its not true no one treats it as littering. i work with a woman who was fined for throwing a cigarette butt out her car window. The fine was $500…
@Maria I agree with you about her body, her choice. I also agree with some of the comments about second hand smoke. People who don’t smoke shouldn’t have to endure inhaling smoke at their place of business. Smoking is now prohibited from any resturant/bar in NY.
I might be playing Devil’s Advocate here but bars were known for being a social gathering for people to smoke and drink. If you don’t want to be around smokers than don’t accept employment in a place that allows smoking. Most of the time the people who work in these types of establishments are smokers themselves.
Erin is smoking outside and she has the right to light up a cig on the street. Before anyone says it, I know non-smokers have the right to walk down the street and not have smoke in their face. To that I say then walk some distance from the smoker. We have the right to not have toxic fumes from exhaust pipes of cars polluting the environment but it happens.
I used to be a smoker but I quit but I’m not going to start condemming people who still smokes.
I bet if she was walking down the street with a joint most commenters wouldn’t have much to say; besides the but weed doesn’t cause health problems the way cigarrettes do. BTW, weed has its side effects as well. Another thing cigs are legal. People know the health risk from smoking and it’s their right if they continue to do so after knowing the risk factors. Let the girl enjoy her smoke in peace for crying out loud.
Yeah I completely agree with you, V4Real.
I posted something about this on the thread about the GoT guy.
I stand in line daily to catch a bus to and from work and have to deal with rude smokers puffing away and I am trying not to breathe it in or cough away. Even when they step away from the line the smell and the smoke still wafts its way to me and others. Sometimes when it is freezing out or raining a rude smoker will have the gall to sit in the bus bay smoking away forcing everyone else out. Why should I have to get out of line and lose my place for those rude pigs? Also, when I am walking outside it is for a purpose to get somewhere, I am not going to cross the street or slow my pace for another rude pig. Smoking in public is rude and thoughtless. It has been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that smoking kills. I would also add that obesity to the point of not being able to hoof it out of the way quick enough is also bad for society. Not only does it affect healthcare costs but also who wants to be trapped on a bus or a plane or or a burning building with someone who can’t hightail it out of there in an emergency. Not me.
@TG Wow I can understand you not liking people who smoke but you have a probelm with fat people as well. That’s a lot of prejudices there.
“Smoking in public is rude and thoughtless.” Also calling people pigs and saying obese people hoof it out the way.
Sorry for your discomfort at the bus stop but keep doing what you’re doing and move away. Would you stand next to the person who had really bad body odor or would you move away?
BTW how do you like riding the bus while it spew out all those toxic fumes from the exhaust. Oh and how dare people drive cars with all those fumes; that’s very rude of them. Shame on people for using hairspray and cleaning products, that’s just rude. 🙂
Man, do any of you people live in a city? I feel like y’all wouldn’t last a day in an urban environment.
In a city, living in close quarters with a bunch of people who’s health habits may not match yours is something you just have to deal with. I take public trans with sweaty, stank-ass people every day. I also have to put up with the overwhelming smell of years of accrued sidewalk piss (and spit) and step over human feces, trash, and homeless people wrapped up in rugs on a daily basis. TRUST when I tell you that a bit of cigarette smoke is really not noticeable when you have 78 degree dew point and cars backed up for miles in traffic, spewing exhaust.
Even last night, when I got home, I had my neighbors lighting up their fire pit in the backyard and the smoke drifting in and filling my whole apartment. I just closed my back door and turned on my A/C. *shrugs*
I mean…we have to co-exist with others and we have to deal with their habits whether we like them or not–this is the human existence. If you don’t like it, go live on a farm somewhere in Alabama. You can deal with the smell of cow shit instead of cigarette smoke.
Of course, being exposed to others’ cigarette smoke is not ideal but neither is having a dude’s mooseknuckle in your face when riding a train (it happened to me on more than one occasion).
……I think the outrage about cigarette smoke is way OTT on this thread.
TOK – the difference between smoking and other habits is that second- and even third-hand smoke have been demonstrated to be harmful to the health of others. So breath up other’s smoke and take the cancer hit for others if you’re such a fan. Thanks!!
@Lauren-Unproductive sarcasm aside, I will gladly inhale the 3 seconds of cigarette smoke I encounter from public smokers…because I’m a hero like that.
@Lauren and so can all the other toxins you inhale while outside as well as some of the products in your home. So if you drive I suggest giving up your car; don’t spray hairspray and put down the cleaning products.
See, my stereotypical model is always smoking. This comes as no surprise to me at all. She’s cute as a button. I love her look.
Models smoke and don’t eat and some do meth and coke . . . although I believe Kate Upton eats real food and looks good.
Kate Upton’s body isn’t good.
See, we have male models all ripped. They work out extremely hard to get that kind of ripped body with muscles.
Now we have female models all skinny without muscle tone or we have Kate Upton who just have massive boobs and nothing else to see.
Why can’t wee have female models with healthy looking body with muscles like… angelina jolie in tomb raider or michelle rodriguez? it is soooo unfair.
@pretty
Because healthy women aren’t up to par for the runways. Which is insane because I don’t see how any of these Victoria Secret’s models are. I kind of do but then again I don’t. They don’t even model the lingerie well.
Then every lazy person who hates working out (or at least everyone who doesn’t have the muscles to show for it) would complain that those are not representative either. It doesn’t matter what the typical model looks like, they will always be the opposite of someone. And muscles don’t equal health either.
@littlemissnaughty
That’s true models are always the opposite but why can’t we have a little variety with the models? Why can’t thin and thick models coexist? Why can’t they walk the runway together instead of dividing them into “plus size” and “average” models?
Most of the male models I’ve seen on runways are very skinny. Some of them could pass as women ( Andrej Pejić CAN pass as a woman).
They aren’t exactly Tyson Beckford ripped. Not that he’s attractive either.
Personally, I don’t find muscular women attractive, but that’s surely better than the skeleton models we have now.
Most VS models do have healthy bodies. They are strong and lean because they work out.
Before people say that they don’t eat, as a person who works out I can tell you that in order to have muscle mass and definition you have to eat. Food is more than 1/2 the battle when it comes to a fit body.
Hye, Gisele is one of the most fit models out there too. MOst people just see the tall’n’skinny and not the fit.
When people say disparaging things about her body, I have no idea as to what they’re talking about.
@pretty How have you managed to miss Gisele, Doutzen, Alessandra, Candice, Adriana and Izabel G.? Most of them are still VS Angels even and they are serious athletes.
I doubt models do meth. That messes too much with your face and teeth. Coke is another story.
Kate Upton smokes also.
As do Gisele and Miranda Annoying Kerr
Gisele quit smoking 10 years ago.
Ehh no surprise here ALL models smoke
Love her entire outfit – that’s all, the smoking thing didn’t even register with me until I lusted after that hot outfit.
Nothing says “elegant” and “classy” and “ladylike” more than a cancer stick hanging out of your mouth.
My thoughts exactly.
+1
Not to mention she probably smells like a cigarette too.
A large number of household products, cosmetics & other common, “daily” items contain carcinogens. Also, processed meats, soft drinks, junk food & most non-organic foods contain damaging chemicals. (Heck, in many cities, even just breathing the air or drinking the water involves allowing carcinogens into one’s body.) Point being: Not to defend smoking, but would you look at someone and say, “Oh my god, she’s wearing carcinogenic foundation, drinking diet soda and breathing air! How unclassy…” 😉
Nowadays, the average person is ingesting toxins in one form or another on a pretty frequent basis…so, it just seems a bit odd for anyone to judge another so harshly.
(And…women aren’t “ladylike” if they smoke? That sounds suspiciously misogynistic, like something that was said back when women were frowned upon for wearing pants, or wanting to work. 🙂 )
+1 you nailed it Angel.
This made me think about all the criticism Robin Thicke was getting for his video. He was called misogynistic because of it. But I guess it’s ok for women to say such things about other women.
This is coming from a former smoker and yes I was very ladylike thank you very much and I didn’t smell like a smoker; I also got the occasional but you don’t look like a smoker. It’s called good hygiene people. 🙂
Smoking is horrible. No doubt about that. But, there is a genetic component to cancer too.
My grandad smoked for 60 years and his lungs are completely healthy. Both my mum and my dad smoke and don’t have lung related problems (knockin on wood).
Now, I don’t smoke BECAUSE my parents smoke and I could see how they struggled to stop and I don’t want that. I dislike the holier than thou attitude towards people who do smoke. You cannot imagine how hard it is to stop. They need support.
I don’t like the ladylike comment either.
“Nowadays, the average person is ingesting toxins in one form or another on a pretty frequent basis…so, it just seems a bit odd for anyone to judge another so harshly.”
+1
There are already a lot of toxins, so why add one more? Smoke irritates my eyes and gives me a headache (I can’t see my lungs, obviously, but thank goodness I don’t have asthma like my mother.) It doesn’t stay confined to the person who chooses to smoke. If I can move far enough away, I do, but it’s not always possible (and frankly, I don’t know why the burden should be on me.)
@Mercy-I walk to work every day and walk or take public trans almost everywhere. You don’t see me yelling at people who drive cars because they’re polluting the air I breathe.
It’s called CO-HABITATION, guys. The sooner you get that people have to deal with the habits of others, the sooner you’ll be at peace.
Hell, if we were hanging out together, I’d pass y’all a bowl, or I guess a vaporizer (the smoke!) because everyone needs to calm down a bit.
@OriginalKitten,
As an avid walker, I know what you mean. I don’t even like to be in a car with a stinky truck in front of me (and yes, I do drive a hybrid – not perfect, but the only option available and I can’t walk, bike, or take public transit everywhere.) That’s why I support things like more and better public transit.
But jobs, school, grocery shopping, etc. are necessities for most people, and not everyone lives close enough to walk or bike, or has access to public transit.
Smoking isn’t a necessity. I realise it’s an addiction, but there are smokeless options. To me, cohabiting with others means respecting their individual space whenever possible, and for a smoker it is relatively easy not to invade another person’s space and still get their nicotine fix.
The physical effects of second-hand smoke are very real to me, and especially my mother. It’s not ‘in my head’ and all the ‘live and live’ sentiments in the world don’t help. I wish I was one of those people who wasn’t sensitive to it and my mother didn’t have asthma, but we weren’t so lucky.
@mercy-I know, but you’d be surprised how many people in my state drive to work, when we have more than adequate public transportation to accommodate *most* suburbanites who live in outlying areas. Hell, I live a couple miles from downtown Boston and the streets in my hood are almost cleared of cars in the AM, because these folks insist on driving instead of taking a bus.
“To me, cohabiting with others means respecting their individual space whenever possible, and for a smoker it is relatively easy not to invade another person’s space and still get their nicotine fix.”
A well-made point for sure, but where I live no one can smoke in restaurants, malls, or enclosed spaces. I guess I’m wondering where are the places that smoke is imposing on peoples’ right to breathe clean air? Maybe I take it for granted living in Boston, but here the smokers are few and far between.
Anyway, I’m obviously over-commenting here to extreme. As I said, I don’t smoke and I’m not a fan of having smoke in my face either, I guess it just doesn’t upset me as much as others.
Straw-man, specious argument. So because other things may have carcinogens that are of unknown significance, introducing another carcinogen (cigarette smoke) into the environment is fine?
@ Lauren-Did you read my comment at all or did you just decide to make up an argument that you believe in as a response to mine?
Yeah I thought so.
Also, I think you need to revisit the definition of “specious argument”. Sure, it’s a fancy term and all, but it’s not applicable to my opinion so kindly try again.
…and um, you think that carcinogens from car exhaust are of “unknown significance”?
Girl, I don’t even know where to begin with you…
Household products may hardly be healthy but they don’t smell foul, as smoke does. The smell is simply horrid, and if smokers didn’t have their sense of smell completely destroyed by their disgusting habit, would smell it also. I live with 3 smokers, in absolute misery. That horrible smell and microscopic airborne particles sticks to everything, skin included. More often than not the apartments stinks. I’m forced to soap up my skin 5 times a day just to remove that garbage from my skin.
@ Madriani’s Girl
Look, if you’re against smoking, fine. But do you have to make your argument sexist?
There are plenty of health reasons to dislike smoking, but the whole “it’s just not ladylike” argument is piss-poor. It sounds like something my dad would say, and his ideas of women are nothing modern humans should aspire too.
Yes, I do.
True, but this also edges into throwing up one’s hands and saying, oh well, can’t criticize anything. What if this post were about household cleaning chemicals Or genetically modified food crops, would everyone just say well there are all kinds of toxins and thungs that will hurt you out there so why are we worrying about this one? I mean, I can see how this arguement leads to apathy.
It reminds me of when cigarette companies used to target women with slogans like “You’ve come a long way, baby” or made skinny cigarettes with pink wrappers lol. And I’m sure a lot of young people start because they think it looks ‘cool.’
@ Madriani’s Girl
OK, well done on that stunning reply. It’s both amusing and bemusing that your ‘witty’ response is to confirm that you actually, wilfully WANT to be a sexist asshat.
I agree to an extent, @Alarmjaguar, but here’s the thing: The sort of criticism that is being expressed on this page, with regard to this specific model, does absolutely nothing to stop people from smoking, or to assist in the fight against toxins and environmental harm, whatsoever. In fact, it actually does the opposite: by throwing out insults and behaving in such an outrageously judgmental and self-righteous behavior (as some people are in their comments, here) it actually makes the critical non-smokers sound like “the bad guys”.
(For example, I’ve been a vegetarian for nearly 30 years now, but I would never say to a meat-eater, “You’re gross, unclassy, stupid and disgusting” because, not only would that be cruel and unfair, but it also wouldn’t accomplish anything remotely constructive. In fact, it would only damage my credibility and objective. Hurling insults at people and bullying them doesn’t create positive, long-term change…only education and understanding will do that.)
And, frankly, when there are much bigger and more disturbing issues to be worried about, with regard to the modeling industry, it actually seems highly apathetic — and perhaps even a shred ridiculous — to focus on one person having a cigarette…even on a gossip site. 🙂 I’d expect this sort of intrusive, voyeuristic & rather fluffy thing from TMZ or the like, but it just seems a bit surprising, here.
@ Alarmjaguar–but people DO turn a blind eye to hormone-laden chicken and genetically modified foods, ALL THE TIME. Same with household cleaners. How many people have extremely toxic cleaners like Old English, Glade, Spot Shot in their house right now? Probably a lot I would wager.
Look, you can’t FORCE other people to comply with your lifestyle, the only thing you can do is educate yourself and change your own habits towards a healthier way of living. People who smoke KNOW the risks involved, it’s their choice to ignore them.
One thing I know for sure, is that acting like people who smoke are awful, shameful human beings is not only not conducive to helping/changing them, it’s pretty shitty to do.
Of course Madriani’s Girl is sexist – just look at her user name. Her claim to fame is being someone’s girl. Methinks Madriani told this chick that smoking, arguing with him, anything other habits he doesn’t like are things only trashy girls do. And she said “yes master” and so here we are.
Of course Madriani’s Girl is sexist – just look at her user name. Her claim to fame is being someone’s girl. Methinks Madriani told this chick that smoking, arguing with him, and any other habits he doesn’t like are things only trashy girls do. And she said “yes master” and so here we are.
I hear what everyone’s saying regarding the “ladylike” comment and the presence of other toxins in our lives. I guess I’d amend my comment to say I think no one looks attractive with a smoke hanging out if their mouth, male or female. That’s all I was really commenting on.
As for other toxins, I agree that there’s plenty of bad crap we’re exposed to but cigarettes are one if the very few things that are entirely avoidable and have zero redeeming qualities. For example, if you insist on eating meat you can find clean sources. There are no “clean” cigarettes, as far as I know.
@Esmon “There are no “clean” cigarettes, as far as I know. ”
It’s called electronic cigs.
Stop with the no one looks attractive with cigs hanging out there mouth; that’s just as bad as the sexist comment. Next people wil be saying no one looks attractive with a beer bottle turned up to their mouth.
@V4Real, ok on electronic cigarettes and my apologies for saying smoking doesn’t look attractive. I wasn’t trying to start a war here, just stating an opinion. To me, the cig hanging out of her mouth looks at odds with her elegant appearance, to others it’s an inoffensive accessory.
She has a great figure. She looks healthier than most of the stick thin models. And she is adorable.
Right? There’s actual flesh on her body. It is rather refreshing.
I feel like nowadays with all the info on smoking and all of the campaigns out there to educate people on the risks and consequences of smoking that if someone chooses to do so, then they do so fully aware so more power to them.
And I say this as a healthcare provider. Personal responsibility is where it’s at!
You’re a poor excuse for a health care provider. Smoking is not a self-contained action. There is second- and third-hand smoke, as well as increased healthcare costs passed on to _everyone_ through insurance premiums for eventual complications like emphysema or worse.
I think the “poor excuse for a health care provider” remark was over the line. Come on now, folks.
nothing is a self contained action. you buy an iphone, it affects the chinese wage slaves that build them and fuel war in the congo. similar with clothes, unless you only ever buy fair trade or make your own. do you? you drive a car, if affects the atmosphere and the people in oil producing countries. we all affect other people with our actions, even ones we think nothing of. the things we eat, drink, what we use to wash our hair. i could go on. it sucks you don’t like smoking, really. but there are much bigger things to be upset by in the world than someone having a smoke outdoors.
The moral relativism in our society these days is disgusting. No problem in having an affair with a married man. No problem in smoking and killing yourself (that I don’t care about) and potentially others with your filthy smoke. Etc. Etc. Etc. Our actions affect others, and if we are going to be in a society that is at all functional we need to realize that.
@Lauren, oh, please. Smoking is equal to having an affair with a married man. Get of your high horse, for crying out loud.
Not more power to them. It effects other people as well. It’s not responsibility, it’s STUPID
As a healthcare provider, who financially benefits from people made ill by the cigarettes they smoke.*
*Fixed that for ya.
She’s cute. But she’s has the type of skin that could freckle and age poorly if she gets too much sun and continues to smoke. Oh well, what do i care? She’s making big bucks now.
I thought you weren’t allowed to smoke in Dr’s offices especially during a procedure like that.
Slow news day?
Haha! THIS! :))
Huh? And why is this a story?
LOL! I’m wondering the same thing!
Her choice
At least she makes enough money to pay the extra premium for being a smoker..my employer charges $150 extra a month so since most of us don’t have a model’s salary it is a definately a great incentive to quit
wow! i’ve never heard of that much of a charge.
Is tat so you can smoke at work? I’m confused, can you explain?
Not so she can smoke at work, it’s part of insurers/employers ‘health incentives’ or whatever phrase they’re using.
It’s financial:
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-01-02/national/35438481_1_tobacco-prevention-and-cessation-smokers-health-insurance
My employer does this, they also have many options for employees to try and quit. They also do this for healthy eating/weight loss.
She was a rain thin runway model pre VS, the smoking does not surprise me. She’s since gained some weight to fit more into VS image.
Who cares, the great models of the 70s-90s all smoked; go on youtube and watch a D and G lingerie show from early 90s (1992) – supermodels came down the runway smoking (Helena Christiansen and Carla Bruni, i recall); try that nowadays.
hahaha
Kate Moss came down theLouis Vuitton runway a couple seasons ago smoking…and it was HOT!
More like Erin Who-therton! …I’ll see myself out.
It is no surprise to me. It is probably an oral thing , so she won’t put food in her mouth. This habit is probably better than throwing up after a meal .
Of course she smokes, she’s a model, it’s a well known trick to cut down your appetite.
I’m not surprised she’s a smoker, but I am surprised that she’s allowed to be photographed smoking in front of a Victoria’s Secret store.
To me, there is nothing uglier than a pretty young women with a cancer stick hanging from her mouth.
Well, if that’s the ugliest thing you have to contend with, you lead a pretty charmed life. I’m sure Erin and her millions are mourning the loss of your approval.
Nothing, Mslewis…? Not even a pretty woman who abuses children and/or the people around them, or who steals money to support a drug habit, or who wears fur (without thinking of the innocent beings who are literally skinned alive for such items), or who regularly drives while intoxicated?
Murder, rape, brutality, starvation, destruction, sex trafficking…None of these things are uglier, to you, than a pretty young woman smoking a cigarette?
I’m sorry but, gosh, some of the comments on these smoking stories are absolutely mind-blowing. There are some SERIOUS horrors and travesties in the world, folks — things far more worthy of your scorn and vitriol than a smoking model. 🙂
Hollywood, alone, is filled with stories of sexual abuse, victimization and harrassment — and much, much worse things, even — yet people are reporting and are this upset over a woman having a cigarette before work? It’s surreal…
@mslewis So you would be ok with it if she was ugly? That’s not sexist at all.
well, if you think it’s ugly then i guess all proper young ladies should just do as they’re told.
as posters above have already said, of course she smokes, all models do. and as for the other commenters being VERY judgemental of smokers- i suppose you’re from the states? its not that frowned upon in europe, to be honest. second hand smoke in restaurants – totally understandable, it s*cks and i hate it myself, and yes, it does affect other people directly which is the reason why you cant smoke inside anymore. and i’d never smoke in front of kids, either. but calling smokers stupid or classless? its a choice, and i dont have to be ashamed because of it.
+1
Smoking where others are trying to enjoy meals or fresh air is one thing, and I think that’s rude. Most restaurants and public spaces don’t even allow that here anymore, though. Real talk: sometimes I think that since people aren’t allowed to be racist or sexist anymore, they pick on fat people and smokers instead. Like, the society here in the states feels better when there’s someone to collectively hate.
Yup. I think overweight people and smokers are the last “acceptable” pariahs in American society.
ITA that people just want to get sanctimonious about other peoples’ habits. I’m fit, I eat healthy and I don’t smoke (well weed in the privacy of my own home, but not ciggies) but I don’t feel a need to denigrate every person who chooses to do so.
@Nerd & TOK
I agree. Just look at TG’s response above; not only did that commenter spew harsh words about smokers but picked on overweight people as well.
TheOriginalKitten:
I can see you have strong views on this smoking thing…but smokers are NOT victims.
And while many other aspects of life in the modern world are toxic, it does not negate the smoking issue. ‘oh well, what’s one more toxin; we alreayd have so many and cannot do anything about them anyway. And I guess I’m a hypocrite/idiot for complaining about smoking when there are so many other problems causing the same thing’.
That’s like saying we may as well not deal with homelessness or hunger or child abuse, b/c there are ‘so many other issues’.
I am so tired of the burden being on the non-smoker, or being treated like I am a bitch for having issue [health issue!] with being around it. Smokers should be considerate.
And I have the same beef with throwing ‘trash’ on the ground, and this trash includes cigarette butts. I love the ‘oh they are biodegradable’ comments about that, that smokers say…it’s ridiculous. It looks awful-whole ashtrays on the ground at times and it is unsanitary; they were in someone’s mouth….
People do have a right to smoke. And I have a right to breathe air without cigarette smoke. Precisely b/c we are already dealing with so many other health hazars-air pollution, carcinogens and pharmaceuticals in our water, food, etc.!
Obviously, nothing is changing your mind and that is fine. I just think your comments are also a little ‘OTT’ as you said….No, not everyone lives in an urban area, and even those of us who do, do not believe that the fact that we navigate around feces and homeless and exhuast all day, means that we have no right to expect courtesy from smokers and to not have our health negatively impacted further by someone else’s habit.
Just as the tabbaco companies finally had to pay up, so too will the food industry and the pharmaceutical industry have their day…when the public is made aware of the lies and deceit. It will take decades more, most likely. In the meantime, I like to recall growing up as a child with both parents smoking, one somewhat respectful, the other smoking in the winter with the windows up in the car, fro long rides-and saying ‘it’s my car and i’m the adult, deal with it’, when the children complained….Yea, that sucked. And now we know more: turns out, it’s harmful for others, especially children!
Back then, it was the same attitude you and others have now ‘suck it up and deal with it’. Hindsight is always 20/20.
And yea, the food and lifestyle police bug hard too. But that does not negate the issue.
@lrm-My “strong” opinion is NO opinion. As in, I have no opinion about what people chose to do with their bodies. That’s on them. The point that I was making is that there are PLENTY of things we have to deal with on a daily basis that ARE MORE harmful (not AS harmful but MORE harmful)than 30 seconds of second-hand smoke maybe once a week. People here are acting like there are hoards of smokers roaming the streets, blowing smoke in people’s faces and yes that IS “OTT” to me.
How many times do you encounter cigarette smoke on a daily basis? I get a waft of it as I pass by a group of smokers who smoke outside their office building, every morning. I could cross the street, but the hassle isn’t worth it for the 3 seconds that I have smoke touch my nostrils. It’s hardly more damaging to me than the miles I walk surrounded by car exhaust.
I mentioned the things that I encounter in an urban environment because they ARE invasive and disruptive to my life. In fact, there are a LOT of things people do that impact my life (like people owning guns) and my safety, but where do you draw the line? These are our freedoms and once you start dictating what others can/cannot do, you start infringing upon their rights. Cigarettes are NOT illegal, people have the right to smoke.
Finally, I’m sorry you have such little sympathy for smokers-I guess you’ve never had a friend or family member who has ever been addicted and struggled with trying to quit— but it doesn’t make you somehow better than them nor does it make them *not worthy* of sharing the same space as you.
EDIT: Also, the comments I expressed were about strangers smoking in public SPECIFICALLY, not about parents who smoke around their kids which, for obvious reasons, is an entirely different subject.
@Irm
You have the right to not inhale exhaust fumes as well but I bet you do. You have the right to not inhale the pollution in the air but I bet you do. So sick of people on their soapbox about smokers. Meanwhile they are probably using products in their home that are just as harmful. People have the right to smoke outside, sorry; if you have a problem with it I suggest never leaving your home or move to the mountains.
If someone is smoking in an open space then don’t stand around that person. I highly doubt that you are working in a place where you are subjected to smokers. So tell me exactly how is someone smoking endagering your health by passing you by on the street but yet you probably drive a car that is spewing out toxins or using hairspray and cleaning products.
Thanks, TOK and V4R. I would offer more of my two cents, but our thread got hijacked by exactly the same comments that preceded it. Cheers to the two of you for not acting as if your way is the only way.
I wonder who will be our next pariahs, after all the disgusting fatties and smokers have been exterminated? I mean, besides Atheists and Muslims. Gah.
This is why I’m thisclose to quitting CB comments for good. It used to be fun, harmless judgment, but everybody is so self-righteous now and takes everything so damn personally.
Smoking isn’t frowned upon at all in my country. You cannot smoke in cafes and restaurants, or in any public building, but no one will call you classless for smoking.
Smoking reduces your lifespan and exercise tolerance, increases your chance of heart disease, lung cancer and limb amputation, turns your skin grey and your lips to a cat’s anus, reduces the blood supply to your clitoris (so fewer orgasms), makes you cough, your breath smell, your clothes stink like an ashtray AND people pay the equivalent of a nice holiday every year for the privelidge.
Seems pretty stupid to me, sorry!
… I’m not even gonna go there. your intelligence level is obviously much higher than mine 😉
Drinking alcohol does all that shit, too. So do fatty foods. So does sitting on your butt all day long. Do you want to tell people about the dangers of all of those things, too, or are they more acceptable than smoking?
I know a fair share of smokers, and they don’t look like zombies.
Yes, smoking is horrible, but shaming people never does any good. Help is what they need.
That dress makes her look bloated. Her face is beautiful. I love her freckles. I do throw shade at her for getting with Leo. He is so questionable.
They all smoke…when I was at fashion week me and my friend discovered the back door tent in Bryant Park and thats where all the models in culers smoke them up…also, it’s where a lot of celebrities slip in and out! That was more fun than the fashion shows…
Smoking is one of the best appetite suppressants out there. She looks unnatural with it, though. Maybe she only smokes when she’s trying to drop weight and starve herself for a show? That’s better, right? I don’t smoke anymore, but I don’t think less of people who do.
who told you that?? because its not true. I smoke and IT DOESNT STOP YOU FROM FEELING HUNGREY :/
@theoriginalkitten and @Veal4Rel your both awesome and make great points!
What?
It’s well-known appetite suppressant, they even used it in ads back in the day. You are the outlier, not the average, and I didn’t really appreciate your misspelled Kanye-caps. So thanks.
Kate Upton is not healthy. So tired of hearing that. Smoking isn’t heathy but neither is gorging on junk food or drivving huge vehicles that pollute the air. We could go on and on about unhealthy choices and their effect on our fellow humans and environment. She’s outside, not sitting in a daycare. People should stop being so judgemental and good for her for not wanting to hide
Non-story. Models smoke. She’s cute, and I’m glad that she’s moved on from the modelizer. Is she still dating that gorgeous football player?
So what? Move on…
I don’t get all the upset about someone smoking. Had she had a glass of wine witch lunch, nobody would say a thing. As a smoker myself, I get a LOT of hate for smoking and a LOT of hate for NOT drinking. There’s a double standard. I was asked if I had a drinking problem and if I was sober and if that was the reason I don’t drink. I was bullied into drinking and got angry glares when I was the only one at the table not drinking (not friends, work colleagues!) Imagine that. But when I light up (I always ask if anyone minds and only outside) I get weird looks. To me it feels as if drinking alcohol is totally okay (which it is! I have nothing against it at all!) and smoking is not. It’s like people don’t even respect my choices. Drinking can me as much as a threat to one’s health and the people around you (ask any child of an alcoholic parent). Of course, the people who gave me the stink eye and tried to get me to drink where heavily drinking themselves and wanted me to drink so their intake would somehow be justified.
This is just how I feel about smoking and drinking…both are obviously a danger, if not handled correctly and in decent amounts. Smoking a pack is absolutely more damaging and dangerous than a beer at a football game. But many people drink way too much and still think that it doesn’t hurt anyone. If I smoke 3 cigs a day, I get yelled at. Well.
I am sorry if you had your feeling hurt by a no smoking jerk but people have a right to clean air not filled with second hand smoke.
Please if there was no such things as cigarettes the air would still not be clean. The cigarette polluting the air schtick is getting old.
You can think that I’m stupid but don’t write to me like I’m stupid. I am talking about
close proximity second hand smoke.
Actually, I have no idea what you mean. I wrote: I always smoke outside when non-smokers are around. I don’t force them to come with me or stand right next to me.
sorry, norman, i don’t really think non-smokers do have the right to demand “clean air” at all times. indoors, sure. outdoors…not so much. and you don’t really mean clean, do you? you’re not talking about car fumes, emissions from factories, you’re talking about a tiny waft of smoke in unconfined area.
Maybe you should consider moving to a rural area? If that doesn’t work for you, it’s probably best you get an air purifier and become a shut-in, but be sure to get a filtered gas mask in case you need to leave. Otherwise, your air is far from clean. Even in those cases, it’s not really.
Also: no, you actually do NOT have that right. “Rights” are made up by government and the US government (like nearly every other one) typically tries to stop clean air legislature.
Nerd alert: Now you are using an opposite argument to tell me to be a shut in and wear a gas mask when I go outside. You are just being condescending, you cant make an argument for your side. Shame on you.
LOL@Norman, I’m sorry, I would assume even a shut-in would need groceries.
Here’s a new word for you: hyperbole. It’s used frequently in debate. Please, look it up.
I’ve never smoked a cigarette in my entire life and I still don’t care or make a big fuss over people who do. It’s their life, their decision. Who am I to tell someone how to live their life?
Have you ever lost someone to a smoking related illness? I can’t share your very open views of smoking.
You can say that because you are not badly affected by the smoke. Many people react badly to smoke, in addition to long-term effects. Children seem to have more frequent respiratory infections if they live in homes with smokers. It’s not really just a personal decision, it does affect others.
Sorry, smoking sucks, so does Lung Cancer.
EVERYBODY (practically) smoked in that era, not just models. Smoke in the air was common on tv shows and movies, coming from ciggies, cigars, and pipes. Even high schools had places students could smoke. It was part of the culture, and was (gag, cough, wheeze) supposed to make you look sophisticated according to the inescapable ads. Even my mother smoked. As an obnoxious coughing teenager, I once caught some of her smoke in a Mason jar, kept it swirling on my dresser for a couple of weeks, and then released it in front of her… Took years before she quit, though- she used the money saved from not smoking on a more harmless vice (gambling- lotteries etc).
It’s amazing how much fuss is given because a model is smoking.
If people still want to ingest all the nasty dangerous ingredients in cigarettes into their bodies despite all the public awareness campaigns, it’s their choice.
The smell of cigarette smoke is foul..and so is the smell of it on people (and their breath!!!). Just gross.
I couldn’t edit my first reply, which was supposed to be in response to someone mentioning models openly smoking even on the runway back in the 1970s-1990s. But so did most everybody else.
It became obvious that ciggie makers aimed ads at the young, since at least in more recent times people were unlikely to take up the habit as adults. So I wonder if models today are an exception, maybe using ciggies for weight control? I’ve heard many women in the past say that they were afraid to give up smoking because they would gain weight. It’s also a very difficult habit to kick if you are physically addicted to nicotine (which many are). People who easily quit cold turkey are just in the lucky group that is not physically addicted and so they can take it or leave it.
But I’m a little surprised by modern models smoking (rather than popping pills for weight control) because it can promote wrinkles and also will contaminate your clothing. Long-time smokers often seem to lose the awareness of how the smoke-drenched materials on them and around them smell. It must be a physical thing. I’ve often heard people who quit say that once they were clear, they were overwhelmed by the odors in their living quarters and their clothing but hadn’t noticed it much while still smoking. Apparently a really good air cleaner can solve the problem eventually.
I want to just throw this out there to all the smokers- try an e-cig! I was a heavy smoker, 1 1/2 packs a day, 20+ years and I loved everything about smoking. I tried quitting with patches, gum, nasal nicotine inhalers, chantix- even tried hypnosis- smoked through all of it. A lady at work let me try her ego e-cig and I thought I’ll go get one so my husband ( a non-smoker) thinks I’m at least still trying but my heart was not in it. I smoked regular cigarettes the first day along with the e-cig but since that day haven’t had one or the urge to have one. I hesitate to say I’ve quit smoking, obviously I’m still addicted to nicotine and the whole hand-to-mouth, exhale thing. But I have tapered my nicotine to half of my original strength and plan to continue til I’m at 0 mg. I tell every smoker I meet to please try them. I was horrified by how much smoking smells- even though I love the smell cause it smells like Grandpa- but it’s so strong and lasts so long! I hardly even use table salt anymore. And the money- wow!!!!
I completely agree with you about the e-cig. I smoked about 8-10 “analog” (aka real) cigarettes a day, tried many times to quit (many different methods), but failed. Then I found my e-cig, and was able to cut down on the real cigarettes, until I was completely off of them. No weight gain at all–which was a huge concern of mine–in fact, I lost weight. I still puff on my e-cig and yes, I am still addicted to the nicotine, but nicotine by itself is not the big problem with tobacco cigs, it’s all the tar and carcinogens that cause most of the health problems.
As far as this story about Erin H. smoking, I don’t get what the big deal is. It’s legal, it’s her body, she’s outside and doesn’t appearing to be blowing smoke on any one. It’s her life.
How is this news?
Wow another model smoking a cigarette!
**Sarcasm intended**
All VS models smoke
How is this woman a model? She’s so plain looking. Regarding the smoking thing, I think most models smoke. It helps them stay thin.