Duchess Kate makes her first solo photo-op since giving birth, plays volleyball

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I wasn’t much of an athlete in my youth (big surprise, I know), but I did do two activities that I absolutely loved: gymnastics and volleyball. Gymnastics took a backseat when puberty hit (I got large breasts very early), but I played volleyball into my teens. I still love it. I love watching it, and I kind of wish there were, like, pick-up volleyball games for adult women, because I would totally do that. Are there pick-up games for women these days? Not in my town.

Anyway, I was just reminded of my volleyball love when I was looking through these new Duchess Kate photos and videos. Today, Kate did her first solo event since becoming a mom. She did a photo-op on behalf of SportsAid – she’s been patroness of the charity since April, and this is her first ever photo-op/event on behalf of the charity. For the event, Kate dusted off an ensemble made of separates that we’ve seen before: her beloved skinny jeans, those g—damn wedges (BURN THEM) that she’s been wearing for three years, a striped top and that Ralph Lauren blazer.

The event featured athletes who competed for Team GB in last year’s Olympics and Paralympics, and the group had a coaching session with young athletes for volleyball, badminton and wheelchair basketball. This is Kate’s second public event since giving birth. Here’s video of Kate playing volleyball – the players kept setting her up for a good spike, and if she hadn’t been wearing those terrible wedges, she could have spiked it with ease.

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Photos courtesy of Pacific Coast News.

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  1. LadySlippers says:

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who hates those wedges. But Kate seems to love fugly shoes….

    • T.C. says:

      Who shows up to a sports type event wearing wedges? Duchess Kate. Guess no one at the firm was brave enough to tell her ditch the wedges, wear some designer tennis shoes for this event.

      • lisa says:

        i love wedges, i can do anything in them. i dont own sneakers, i just hate the way they look. i consider her wedges casual enough for this event.

      • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

        That’s what I was thinking. If she knew she was going to play, why not wear some nice tennis shoes? And God those wedges are ugly. I like wedges, but I have the nice ones that look more like sandals, not penny loafers.

    • HH says:

      I don’t think she has awful taste in shoes, but she her styling leaves something to be desired. What I’ve noticed is that the sisters are opposites fashion wise. Pippa has a great casual, street style, unlike Kate. However, Kate has a great formal style for weddings and galas, while Pippa sorely needs help in this area.

    • bluhare says:

      Technically, aren’t they espadrilles?

      • HH says:

        I believe the “cork” bottom makes them wedges. Espadrilles in particular have the raffia(?) fabric on the heel.

    • teehee says:

      I also can do anything in my wedges. I wore one pair for 3 years practically straight- in deep snow daily to school, on the field during mapping courses and water/field courses for geology, walking, bicycling, rock climbing in the woods, you name it. Its not as odd as you think to wear them all the time.

      • T.C. says:

        She didn’t sample all the sports at the event because of her wedges. Those are higher than her regular one. She could have worn some cute designer tennis shoes to compliment her clothes for the event. I see other celebrities doing that. I think she just wanted to show off her weight loss and slim legs. So style over function which is typical Waity.

  2. Harriet says:

    Like the blazer.

  3. Esti says:

    I think she looked really relaxed and happy. I don’t care if she wears wedges — she was obviously comfortable enough in them to spend some time playing, so what does it matter?

    • carol says:

      I think there’s nothing wrong with the wedges – they look comfy – or comfier than stilettos

  4. Lisa says:

    Word to the wise: Don’t play volleyball in Princess Diana’s wedding ring.

    • Toot says:

      Well, it’s not Diana’s anymore and Kate already did. It’s Kate’s ring so wherever.

      • eliza says:

        A little snappy today, are we?!

      • Harriet says:

        I agree with Toot though. As in, so what?

      • mirwren says:

        I agree with Toot as well, and not everyone is ‘snappy’ when they’re simply disagreeing.

      • molly says:

        It’s actually Diana’s engagement ring !!!!

      • Harriet says:

        Yeah. But when she died, it was returned to Prince Charles who then gave it to Wills. And Wills gave it to Kate. A lot has happened since it was Princess Diana’s.

      • LAK says:

        Harriet : Technically that ring belongs to Harry.

        When Diana died, the boys were asked to take a keepsake from her before she was buried.

        Harry chose the ring, William chose her wristwatch – the watch was equally sentimental to Diana as it was her father’s wristwatch which was HER keepsake from him.

        How the ring ended up on Kate’s finger is a mystery that shall remain between Harry and William.

      • Harriet says:

        @Lak I had no idea but but in any case it doesn’t really bother me at all

      • LAK says:

        @Harriet: I have irrational jewellery superstition. That ring is a symbol of a doomed, mostly loveless, toxic and failed marriage.

        I shuddered the first time it was unveiled on Kate’s hand, and i feel the same way years later.

        I wish this ring had been put away for a few generations and Kate had received a different ring. I would feel and say the same thing if Harry gave this ring to his bride.

        It’s a ring of doom!!!

      • Harriet says:

        @Lak! Lol. Well when I first heard about the engagement and the ring I did think that perhaps there was too much that had happened around it for it to be a mark of something special between a young couple. But just in terms of the original comment, it doesn’t bother me she plays volleyball with it on. 🙂

    • HK9 says:

      Why not Princess Diana would have?? (P.S., it’s not her ring anymore eh????) As someone who loves wedges, I think these are a wee bit too high. They would be perfect if they were a little lower.

      • Mel says:

        Agreed 100 %.
        Wedges are very versatile and can look really well – I love them myself – and they would be PERFECT for this occasion (unlike actual sneakers).
        But she chose them ridiculously high-heeled, thereby destroying the whole outfit as only footwear can.

    • Harriet says:

      Sorry accidental post!

  5. Dani2 says:

    Lol I don’t get the hate for the wedges at all, they’re cute, I’d wear them.

  6. Ciru says:

    I don’t know if it’s the light, or motherhood..but golly gosh her face looks gorgeous.

  7. kiki says:

    BUT! those are not the same wedges, right? The heel is much higher and I feel such a failure for being able to see this :))

    • Molly K says:

      I thought the same thing too! I think these have a platform toe and her old ones did not?

    • emmie_a says:

      I thought the same exact thing – these have a higher heel and the platform is a tiny bit higher as well.

    • T.C. says:

      Much higher heels than her old wedges which makes no sense for this event.

      • Megan says:

        I think these are the wedges she wore to all of the Olympic events… I think these are Stuart Weitzman, and the lower ones are LK Bennet

  8. LadyAnne says:

    She looks great.

  9. Sarah says:

    The blazer is great. And Kim Kardashian would kill for that ass.

  10. Buckwild says:

    Why would she wear those wedges to a gym? She looks so out of place. Some comfortable canvas shoes or runners would be more apporiate, at least for the physical activities.

    • GrahamFan says:

      +1. I have nothing against wedges, but she just looks ridiculous playing with those shoes and heavy eye makeup.

  11. caitlin says:

    What a strange looking outfit, especially for a sports-related event. Doesn’t she have any common sense? I guess money can’t buy everything..

  12. Deedee says:

    +1 She was asked to play badminton and begged off, saying she’d brought the wrong shoes. Like she had no idea she would be playing sports in a sports facility. As in all her appearances, it’s all about how she looks. She could care less about anyone else.

  13. Stacie says:

    I know she’s worn fifty different versions of this outfit, but I love it, especially the blazer.

    I’m not quite sure I get the wedges hate.Granted, those aren’t exactly the best wedges I’ve ever seen, but still. Have y’all ever worn wedges? So comfy! I can’t blame her for choosing them over heels for these type of events.

    • Gine says:

      I actually think flats look much better with skinny jeans than wedges or heels, but I’ve always hated the way wedges look. Like, I realize Kate’s aren’t really that bad, but I just can’t like wedges.

  14. MavenTheFirst says:

    Until I enlarged the fifth photo, it looked like someone had pinned a note to her back and I am sure it would say, ‘Kick me’. Heh.

    She’s done something to her face, has she? Wedges to play volleyball- really bright.

    She’s not much of anything, is she?

    • CG says:

      I was actually wondering about her face too. I think she’s definitely back on the Botox but can’t tell if she’s had anything else done.

  15. Gine says:

    UGH, those wedges. I like the rest of the outfit, though, and it looks like she had fun. I was so terrible at volleyball in school. (Well, all sports, but especially volleyball.)

  16. Allie says:

    I love the outfit! I think she looks cute and casual. Plus her hair is amazing.

  17. jbear75 says:

    love her entire outfit this time. She’s really excelling at casual sophistication. I like her more and more as time passes. she looks healthy here!!

  18. Jackson says:

    I just do not like wedges of any sort, on anyone. Apologies to my wedge-loving sisters!
    And dang, volleyball was one sport I could not get behind. That ball KILLED my forearms. No idea how anyone can tolerate it!

  19. MaryBeth says:

    I think the wedges are cute but flats would have looked much more cute…. um… especially playing volleyball. 🙂

  20. MaryBeth says:

    Wedges are really the only form of heel I can wear because of comfort…

  21. PrettyTarheelFan says:

    We didn’t use the photo of her abs? Her stomach looks flawless. Guess “Fit Mom” would say, “See? Kate did it! What’s YOUR excuse?” 🙂

  22. vava says:

    Well this is really quite laughable. Those wedges are really high, she wore them to the Olympics with her sprayed on jeans and they looked ridiculous then and they look that way now. This is one of the funniest outfits she’s worn to date. I cannot believe they let her out on the court with those things on.

  23. Mon says:

    I think she looks great! Including the wedges. Better alternative than high heels especially if one has to run around all day!

  24. Tara says:

    Oh how I wish I could love wedges but they look good on only a slim minority of us. Kate should wear them with dark rinse bootcut jeans with some stretch for a smooth fit and a low rise to elongate her torso and create a waistline.

    Skinny jeans are for weekend errands or for teens doing a mall crawl. Not for princesses of the UK lol. But I would love to raid her closet.

    • Emmy says:

      Where do you live? Because literally no one wears bootcut jeans here anymore haha.

    • Miss Bennet says:

      Kate does not need her torso elongated. She has a long torso with shorter legs already.

    • Tara says:

      Yes I guess you guys are right and so then I further think bootcut jeans in a dark rinse would give her bottom half some weight/balance – maybe not with a low rise, however. Yeah, I love slightly flared or cigarette legs and not much in between. I have a small waist and long legs – balanced but alas, no hips or curvy derriere!

  25. Kitty says:

    Does the awkward angle she constantly has her arms in bother anyone else? It doesn’t look natural to me.

    • Lindsay says:

      She has to constantly show off the ring. She has become more subtle about it for awhile it was so hilariously unnatural, over the top flashy. You could tell it was a tight race for who is more obsessed with their ring Kate or Gollum.

    • SuSu says:

      her arms look always odd and she has a problem with her hands. Everytime when she makes “official smalltalk” her hands are everywhere. She points and wiggles. She can´t hold them calm. Don´t know if it is because of the ring. Could just be a tic

      • LNG says:

        I don’t think its because of the ring either – I think she just never knows what to do with her hands. If you look at pictures of her before the engagement she’s often holding her hands in the same way, despite the lack of ring to show off.

        I can empathize with her on this one – I’m super awkward when I know people are watching me/taking my picture…

    • Miss Bennet says:

      Yes. The way she clasps her hands in front of her looks so prissy and precious. It’s the “I’m a very good little girl” pose. Get a clutch purse young lady and hold it like Diana did.

  26. Apsutter says:

    Her face looks absolutely gorge here. Too bad she didn’t wear some sneakers like when she played rugby(?) before.

  27. Josie says:

    You think she’s bring a pair of sneaker’s to a charity like that.

    When I look in the stands all I see are photographers; she’s very good at attracting them. Public not so much.

    • Esti says:

      Well, this event wasn’t open to the public, so I don’t know why you’d fault her for that. Her whole job is to draw attention — via press coverage — to organizations like this. If a bunch of photographers showed up to take pictures of her, that’s sort of the point.

  28. Jaded says:

    She has such a long torso that when she wears flats her legs look short, hence the wedges. However those spray-painted on jeans are just f*cking awful, so tasteless. She should have worn some properly tailored casual trousers.

    • jane26 says:

      I agree. I was starting to feel like I was the only one who thought those jeans were tacky as all hell.

    • Linda says:

      Tacky! Seriously! Waoh

    • LAK says:

      At least they aren’t the bright blue and pink ones she wore before.

      • HH says:

        I believe you were referring to the bright blue ones for the Olympic torch outside of BP. #1 worst outfit out of the olympics. #2 was when she worse these wedges with a suit (WTF) for handing out medals. It was atrocious.

      • vava says:

        Kate apparently missed the memo regarding how a member of the RF should present themselves at official functions. While skinny jeans are great for casual wear OFF DUTY, they are no way acceptable for appearances as a royal – especially styled the way she does it. If she wore those jeans with a longer jacket/coat and with some low heeled boots they might work for a situation like this. The world does not need to see her toned butt, abdomen and thighs. Cover it up, please!

        Although I like that jacket, the way she styled it is ridiculous too. It would look much better with a sheath dress underneath it, or a dark top, so that you don’t get that postage stamp thingey in the back. This woman is in desperate need of a stylist.

  29. Elizabeth says:

    Love the outfit but hate the wedges. Then again I’m just not a wedge fan so that’s just me. If I had to walk around in heels all day I’d probably become a wedge fan.

  30. Andrea says:

    I’m not going to lie . . . I’m GREEN with envy. WTF . . . she just had a baby did you see the shoots of her tummy in the daily mail. How is that even possible?!

  31. SuSu says:

    She visits a gym and wears such high wedges? Yes her long torso would look bad with this pants and flat shoes, but i think for a sports charity it would have been better in a much more sporty look.

  32. Rachel says:

    Kaiser, why just for women? Would you not be interested in pickup games for anyone who wanted to play? I know some of the gyms around here have pickup games, but they’re for anyone who wants to play. There’s no gender split.

    My bf is really into volleyball (has a sand pit at his house). He plays at the gym, and there’s a girl who plays also, I swear, last time, she kept serving that ball right at me, and I thought it was going to break my arms every time I bumped it.

  33. HoustonGrl says:

    OMG i’m starting my diet right now. She looks great! That said, those jeans aren’t leaving much to the imagination! I guess it’s good she’s not as uptight as other royals.

  34. themummy says:

    She looks absolutely gorgeous. I really think she’s quite beautiful. Those shoes, however, oh my god…they are terrible.

  35. JustLurking says:

    How the hell does one lose pregnancy weight like that in barely three months????? Oh wait, have millions of dollars, a personal chef, and fitness trainer at your beak and call. Yeah, that’ll work. Was my sarcasm visible?

    • RobN says:

      Still takes self-discipline and you can’t buy that.

    • Stef Leppard says:

      She has good genes too, and while she was pregs she exercised and didn’t gain too much weight. My pregnancy weight fell off in less than two months with zero help from me. I’m just saying, it’s not necessarily only because she’s rich, and I personally don’t think she should be criticized for having already lost the weight, just as other people shouldn’t be criticized for needing two years to lose the weight.

    • minamka says:

      Don’t believe everything u see.. I read that she was faking her pregnancy but of course i am still not sure about that 100%. it means she didn’t gain weight in the first place, maybe she had injections to make herself look puffy while faking her pregnancy a la Beyonce. It is weird how she’s jumping like that in those wedges after only 3 months and it was her first too.. Her breasts are non existing, i wonder if she’s breastfeeding.

  36. Eleonor says:

    I am totally in love with the outfit. I would wear everything, and I can totally see me going to work dressed like that.

  37. bettyrose says:

    Too thin for skinny jeans.

  38. Maggie says:

    I think she looks so pretty and she has the most amazing figure. Great ass!

    • bettyrose says:

      She’s an attractive woman, but if I had her super slender build I’d play it up with curvier jeans and babydoll dresses. Rather than accentuating the thin. But I’m stuck in the early 90s. I don’t deny it.

  39. Sachi says:

    Those jeans are so tacky. When you can see the outline of a “royal ass”, it’s time to pick a better pair of pants. In one of those photos showing her side, you can see the outline of her crotch. Yikes.

    She’s very skinny again, so it’s all about showing the thigh gap, ie. that awful jeans she wore to the Olympic torch event where the pants highlighted pretty much everything below the waist.

    But she looks very pretty at this event. Softer, more luminous. Even the eyeliner isn’t that much today. She’s always been more relaxed when attending sports-related events. She should do more of them.

  40. Mich says:

    I’m so bored by this woman. Bring out Prince George!

  41. Angelic 21 says:

    She wearing 6 inch heels to meet disabled athletes and a sporting event in which she refused to play badminton and other sports because of her footwear even though she knew she was expected to participate. I don’t want to nit pick but she barely does any engagements and wear completely inappropriate attire given the event in hand. Both William and Harry wore appropriate clothes to their engagement where they were expected to participate in various sports.

    Although she looks good IMO.

  42. Anon says:

    The Duchess, the kids and charity members all look happy. Isn’t that the goal? Good for Kate for playing volleyball, even in those shoes. She was probably nervous…”I’ll try my best.” …yes, she did.

  43. Suze says:

    I find wedges harder to balance in than ugh heels so kudos to her for actually playing volleyball in them.

    Everyone seems thrilled to have her there and she brought a lot of attention to the event, so again, kudos to her.

    Just a general observation: I’m ready for the skinny jeans leggings trend to end. I don’t find them graceful or flattering.

  44. Suze says:

    I find wedges harder to balance in than high heels so kudos to her for actually playing volleyball in them.

    Everyone seems thrilled to have her there and she brought a lot of attention to the event, so again, kudos to her.

    She looks fit and trim and cheerful, so more kudos. Sport events bring out the best in her.

    Just a general observation: I’m ready for the skinny jeans leggings trend to end. I don’t find them graceful or flattering.

  45. kayla says:

    Umm, I have to agree with (practically) all the other commenters: this outfit is beyond tacky and is inappropriate for the event she was attending. Ill-fitting blazer which emphasized her scrawny arms and shrinking upper torso, wedges (yikes!!) and the spray painted pants. This woman needs a stylist and some common sense pronto!

  46. sandi says:

    Darn those Brits, they have classy Kate frolicking on the field, here in the US. we get large butt Kim and her stretch marks. And she has the nerve to think that qualifies her for the Hollywood walk of Fame, not fair, just not fair.

  47. lenje says:

    While wedge shoes are not for sport events (then why are those celebs so dressed up at the finals of Wimbledon/US open or basketball courts??), after watching the video I would say it’s because she hadn’t played volleyball before. I’m not a sporty person, and I can say I would hit the ball waaayyy worse with my tennis/running shoes than the Duchess in her wedge shoes!

    • Sachi says:

      I think there’s a big difference between being a spectator vs. actually stepping on the court and playing.

      Serena Williams doesn’t play tennis wearing 4-inch heels, does she?

      Wedges provide more stability than a stiletto, but the higher the platform the more strain it would be on her bones if she twisted her ankle.

      Kate refused to participate in a badminton game at this same event. She was supposed to join a game, but declined when she arrived.

      This event was announced several weeks ago. She must have known that her participation may be required. Wedges are great if you’re not moving/running around that much. But as per her declining the invitation to play badminton, it was probably because her shoes were not appropriate for playing sports that would require her to run around.

      • MavenTheFirst says:

        How difficult is it to be game for anything? To wear the appropriate attire? To play around for a short while, to kibbitz, and then be gone back to the chef, butler and Pratesi sheets. You know? Make it fun, serve a purpose? She is either dense or willfully ignorant. And it’s so obvious that her twin, William, supports her in this. Feh. It’s always, ALWAYS, about her.

      • Sachi says:

        Maven – as I mentioned in my original comment a few posts above, she’s very skinny again. For her, it’s all about showing off all the weight loss and the ‘hot’ body 3 months after giving birth.

        The media and the sycophants are drooling over her physical appearance, so she makes sure it always gets talked about. That’s all she has: her looks. Nothing else going for her. Even the papers had nothing to say about her at this event except comment on her flat stomach and thin body.

        It’s all about her desired results: Comments like “Wow! Kate can play volleyball even in wedges! So cool and stylish!” and “Kate has a nice ass. I’m jealous of her body!” from the DoLittle-loonies.

        You wouldn’t see those positive comments had she played badminton in those wedges. Her excuse for not playing was that she tried it but wasn’t good at it so she didn’t want to do it again/not gonna try anymore. She’d most likely get criticized for putting herself in danger of a sprained foot, running around while wearing stilts because she didn’t want to be sensible and practical and wear something flat or with a lower heel.

  48. Stephanie says:

    I miss the sausage curls and the eyeliner! Lol. But she looks pretty here. I can’t throw shade at Kate.

  49. Her indoors says:

    She looks wonderful. I don’t even mind the shoes.

  50. kellyinseattle says:

    Love the nautical look, hate the shoes….she looks really good, overall!

  51. BourgBourg says:

    I think she looks great! Maybe she wasn’t expecting to actually play? Wedges were an odd choice, I find pre-baby she always dressed appropriately for sport-y events with William.

    Love the blazer, can’t find it online 🙁

  52. JJ says:

    I think she’s a good sport regardless of the wedges! Some would have used that as an excuse to not even play!

  53. Cordelia says:

    That’s actually a Smythe blazer.

  54. Savanna says:

    The top is Ralph Lauren. The blazer is not, it’s Smythe.

  55. Elise says:

    I actually love those Russell & Bromley wedges, and the Smythe blazer (she wore that when she flew to Canada). I don’t care much for the jeans, she’s worn them so many times, you can tell they look faded. Catherine also needs a haircut, or a new hairstyle. She certainly looks different post pregnancy.

  56. Amy says:

    I don’t really care about the wedges so much as her hair in these pictures. I never really gave much thought to the conspiracy theories that she wore a weave/extensions because it always looked natural to me. But on the blog What Kate Wore they had some before pictures from the London Olympics and after pictures featuring this volleyball outing because Kate wore these exact same pieces to these events. In the London Olympics pictures, her hair is a lot shorter and looks very natural. But her hair here is so much longer and thicker and is just kind of hanging there. I’m not sure if it’s natural or not, but it almost looks too long here. Does anyone feel there is a point where your hair gets too long to style and manage?

    • Deedee says:

      I’ve seen photos from one of the royal gossip blogs where you can see “stitches” where the hair is sewn in. Those pics were pre-pregnancy, so I’m not sure if she’s wearing them now or not. But she has worn them, definitely. If you were to look at her photos chronologically, you’ll see that her hair “grew” impossibly longer between a couple of appearances. Also, there’s no miracle blowout or pregnancy hormones that give you double the hair in your 30s compared to what you had in your 20s and teen years. It’s physically impossible without “help” of some sort.

  57. d says:

    I think this outfit is not appropriate from a royal function. the jeans are way too casual and tight. it’s in poor taste. if she were out shopping or something it would be fine.
    although I like wedges I think these DOnt look good in her. they are too big and clunky, and with her tiny legs and tight pants she looks like she is walking on blocks. if she had a shorter pair of wedges I think it would have been ok.

  58. angelique says:

    I saw photos today of Kate’s BARE BELLY!!!

    Girl, the world has watched you for 12 years flashing yourself from the back seat of cars, on boats, on balconies, on tarmacs, playing volleyball, while pregnant…I mean what’s next?

    The only part of you I haven’t seen is just too gnarly to mention.

    Please keep your clothes on!
    (even the trashy, slutty, hideous sh*t you wear!

    Thank you,
    Angelique

  59. Jackie Jormp Jomp (formerly Zelda) says:

    Cork soles are always ugly. Even back in 2002 when they were last fashionable.
    SO UGLY.

  60. Lizzy1013 says:

    Isn’t that one of the “princess” rules? She always has to be wearing a heel. Can’t believe she didn’t break an ankle…

    The wedges are definitely taller than the ones she wore during the Olympics because they are making her jeggings shorter.

  61. Lizzy1013 says:

    Isn’t that one of the “princess” rules? She always has to be wearing a heel. Can’t believe she didn’t break an ankle…

    The wedges are definitely taller than the ones she wore during the Olympics because they are making her jeggings shorter.

  62. jackie says:

    Kate seems to copy her late mother-in-law’s style a lot maybe she could not find any pictures of Diana playing sports so this is what she came up with on her own. It is no wonder her feet look so bad .

  63. kibbles says:

    Too bad she’s starting to get super thin again. She looked great during pregnancy and right after giving birth. She’s going back to her wedding day weight.

  64. kc1 says:

    Looks like her pants don’t like the wedges either, they are trying their best to distance themselves!

  65. Pip says:

    She wore wedges so she would look skinnier on camera and in person. Height slims, period, that’s why she wore them. If she wore sneakers the press would have started saying she gained weight, because she did. She’s very aware of her physical appearance and it’s the only reason she wore them, trust me.

  66. Charlie Canada says:

    Why is she wearing hooves on her feet?