As we discussed last week, the UK and American outlets are gearing up for a Duchess Kate/Cressida Bonas showdown. Some of you thought that this was just typical anti-woman stuff, pitting two women against each other. While there is a streak of that, granted, I actually do believe that Duchess Kate could and should be worried about The Rise of Bonas. For one thing, if Cressida ends up joining the royal family, that means William and Kate will be spending more time with Cressida’s extended family, including her sister Isabella, who has always made Kate very nervous (William was enamored with Isabella). Two, Cressida is much more aristocratic than the Middleton family. Three, Cressida is tight with the York princesses, and I’ve long believed that the Middleton sisters and the York princesses kind of hate each other. While it might be anti-woman propaganda, I think the stories are well-founded at least.
So, what’s new with the potential cat-fight? Us Weekly spoke to Prince Harry’s biographer Marcia Moody, who claims: “Kate and Cressida aren’t a natural fit, left to their own devices.” Ya think? But… “Kate will be there for Cressida with any concerns regarding being in the public eye.” A source even claims that Cressy “really likes” Carole Middleton, which HAHAHAHA. I kind of think the source IS Carole. But… but… but… The Telegraph (a proper newspaper) had a story this weekend about Cressida not being ready to marry Harry after all!! Noooo!
Her two public appearances with Prince Harry in recent days prompted speculation about an imminent royal engagement, but Cressida Bonas has told her closest friends she is not yet ready to settle down, The Daily Telegraph has learnt. Miss Bonas, 25, a former dance student who works in marketing, harbours ambitions of a career on the stage but knows that she would have to give that up if she joined the royal family. She is said to be “wrestling” with the knowledge that she must choose between her career and her royal boyfriend. Prince Harry has told her he will wait until she feels ready to get engaged.
“The bookies have been offering odds of 8/13 on an engagement this year,” said a friend, “but based on what she has told everyone, I would say it’s less than evens that anything will happen this year. People talk to her all the time about Harry and she gets quite cross and says ‘I don’t want to get married yet’. She hasn’t been invited to meet the Queen yet, so she’s not at the stage of an engagement being imminent.”
The Prince will be 30 in September, a typical age for members of the Royal family to marry, but he will want to avoid a repeat of his ill-fated relationship with his only other long-term girlfriend, Chelsy Davy, who called it a day after five years of struggling with life in the royal goldfish bowl.
“If it was up to Harry he would get married straight away but he is very sensitive about her on this particular issue,” said a source. “Harry has told her he will wait.”
Friends of Miss Bonas have told the Telegraph her first royal [outing with Harry] was “no big deal” and its significance has been overstated. “I don’t think they did it to make a statement, it just happened, it was a natural development,” said a source.
Regardless of how much planning went into the event, Miss Bonas’s decision to pose for photographers as she arrived was a marked departure previous attempts to dodge them. Friends say that her reluctance to be photographed is more to do with a lifelong shyness than anything else, and that in recent months she has decided to “get a grip” and accept the inevitable.
Miss Bonas is “not really a party girl”, according to one close friend, “though when she is at a party she is terrific fun. She is very funny, incredibly affectionate, incredibly sweet. Harry won’t find anyone better than her because there isn’t anyone better than her. The thing about her that would surprise people is she is quite strict – strict with herself and strict with Harry, and it’s no great coincidence that Harry is a changed man since he has been seeing her. She just will not put up with bad behaviour. She tells him off, she says ‘you’re not having another drink’, he doesn’t smoke any more, she has stopped all that.”
“Her life and her career are on hold because of the relationship with Harry,” said a close friend. “She wants to be a dancer, she loves the stage, absolutely loves it, it’s like a virus that has really got into her system and she is wrestling with the problem of how to square that circle.”
Shall we debate Cressida’s marriage reticence? I’ve thought in the past that Cressida was just a skilled game-player, that she knows that Harry will fall harder for her if she makes him chase her, which seems like what she’s done pretty successfully. It seemed to me like she was putting out this message of “I’m not ready to get married” as a way to draw Harry out and make him want her even more. But what if she really is torn about it? I don’t know. Look at her actions – I think she does want to marry him. Maybe she was reticent at first, but at some point in the past year, she’s gotten with the How To Marry A Prince Program and she’s trying to follow all the rules. She even picked up a “don’t” from Duchess Kate: don’t look too eager to get your feet under the table, it will come back to haunt you. That’s what I think this is. Cressida doesn’t want to look like Waity 2.0. So she’s painting the situation like SHE is making Harry wait.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
My guess would be that this is all part of the plan
IKR.Why would she even be dating Harry this seriously if she wasn’t in it to win it? She’s living at Kensington palace now isn’t she? That’s a bit different than any other young woman crashing at her bf’s place.
She’s not living at KP.
She spends a lot of time there with Harry but she maintains her own apartment and life. Staying over at your bf’s place a coupke of nights a week isn’t the same as moving in, imo.
I thought a few of the various tabloids had her living there?
I think it’s been well established on other threads that she’s there a substantial amount of time and that gaining access to KP is in no way the equivalent of a normal person crashing with a normal lover periodically. Thus we can extrapolate that she wouldn’t be in this deep if she was still weighing her options.
Bettyrose,
I’d disagree. Even if she was living with him full time — how’s that any different from other couples living together? She might end up saying this isn’t for her and a lot of these quotes are saying just that. But living together doesn’t equate to marriage. Even for Royals.
@ladyslippers … I would agree if they were just sharing an apartment of their own … but I had the impression it was a huge deal to live at KP because of the security logistics allowing an “outsider” to come and go at will. Plus the change in royal attitudes allowing them to shack up on royal turf. It’s KP not the fact of them having sleepovers that seems a telling sign to me.
Having a security pass to facilitate easier access to KP isn’t the same as living there or even spending lots of time there.
It simply means that she’s allowed to enter without Harry and she doesn’t have to undergo the usual checks when she rocks up. It’s a nightmare having to go through the pleb’s entrance all the time and or having to be frisked and carry your passport every time you wish to pop in to see your BF who has to let the security know that you will pop in together with exact time you are expected. It’s more discreet to have her own pass.
Well, Chelsea Davy did not want the royal life. And Cressida does not live with Harry, so not every girl is like Kate.
As much as I liked Davy, I still prefer Cressida over Kate. There is something about her that always scares me!
@bettyrose.. I was under the same impression as you, I had thought they were living together and them getting married was a forgone conclusion. *shrugs*
she needs to get braces for those top teeth…jeez
She is Kate no. 2. Rich little girl with no personality who lives off her parents. At least Kate looks pretty. And she was a commoner, a rich one but still, so she brought something different to the BRF.
Of all the people involved in this story, I like Carole the best.
Of all people involved I like Lupo the best.
Of all those involved, I like the Queen’s Corgis the best.
Can’t stand corgi’s or that other rich persons dog the pug. I work in a wealthy area of DC and have to walk by those ugly dogs every day. I love when a rich person gets a mut or a true rescue dog.
I meant in this story here, not in tje entire BRF 😀
It was a joke!
I got that, don’t worry.
What’s to like about Carole and her pimping her daughter so she can attend Ascot with royals. I dislike her the most after William. IMO Kate is probably a nice person compared to everyone around her including Ma Midds and William. Carole seems like the kind of mother who uses her children to fulfill her ambitions and only support her kids as long as they are doing what she wants them to, in Kate’s case it’s chasing the royal ring. I believe if Ma Midds have supported Kate and had her best interest in her mind and not social climbing, she would’ve left William and pursued her own life. She not only encouraged but bank rolled her daughter doing nothing but be a sex toy/booty call to a rich prince for a decade, be mocked for a decade just so that she can wear a signet ring. She is exactly like Kris Jenner, it’s just their medium of pimping their daughter is different.
The only thing I can like about her is that she built her own business, nothing else.
I don’t believe she was pimping Kate.
I like her and Michael because they made their money (even with the help of shady uncle Gary) and didn’t just inherit it like the rest of this lot.
Yep. Exactly my thoughts. I respect Carole for her business acumen although there is much shady detail around it but still. However, her machinations were and are disgusting. None of her children is dealing with life successfully on their own. That says a lot about their upbringing.
Tatjana
You realize Uncle Gary is a known durg dealer and likely still under age sax trafficer.. right? His money is not clean and not ok even if he didn’t inheret it and earned it himself.
And if half the stuff about how Kate won William back is true I can’t imagine any mother helping their daughter change themselves for a man. They should be saying he’s not good enough and if he didn’t appreciate you it’s his loss.
I had no idea about Gary. I thought he had some shady gambling thing going on.
Tatjana
Gary was caught on camera selling drugs to some reporters. And during the video he’s drinking and going on about how he’ll get his own wing in BP. Also, he’s selling those drugs in his home he calls casa de bang bang (or a name close like that) where he’s had William and Kate over with and without him for parties.
The video shouldn’t be too hard to find on youtube. I’m having issues posting links lately.
I think Cressida is quite pretty. I think Kate is quite pretty too. I don’t think it has to be a “who’s cutest” contest.
I didn’t mean it like that. I meant that, the only things Kate has going for her are her looks and the fact that she is a commoner so she’s a little different than previois royal brides.
Cressida hasn’t shown anything yet.
It’s OK Tatjana. My comment was more a response to people who think Cressida isn’t attractive. I think she is, although she’s more quietly attractive if you know what I mean.
And I totally agree Cressida hasn’t shown anything yet.
Tatjana: are you discounting Sophie and Autumn then? They don’t have millionaire parents bankrolling them or their romances.
In sophie’s case, she dated her prince for 6yrs before she we’d.
Fergie, though completely aristocratic, came from a relatively poor background. Her parents’ despite hanging with royalty and being directly related to current royal family, we’re definitely not millionaires.
And if you are going to be dismissive of rich girls with bankrolling parents as undeserving of the ring, then I guess better throw in Diana. She had several menial jobs, but her flat and lifestyle were pretty much bankrolled by her parents – who’se ever heard of a nanny with a coutts bank account??!!
I’m not disregarding anyone. Is Autumn a royal? And isn’t Sophie related to a bunch of royals? And didn’t both of them have proper careers before marriage?
Diana prior her marriage was hardly someone to look up to( she was very young, yes, but she did extremely poor ly in her exams) She stepped it up whem she got married, maybe Cressida will too.
Sophie, Autumn, and Mike all come from very ‘normal’ backgrounds. And while Autumn and Mike aren’t married to titled Royals — they still married into the BRF. Bea & Eug are also dating non-aristos as far as I remember. Chelsy came from a wealthy family like Kate does, but has no Royal or aristo connections.
It’s the whole ‘Royals only date aristos’ argument that’s being argued. It’s just not true.
Diana was Spencer and the one who actually married up was Charles. I guess it depends on what one wants to look up to. I respect the fact that being who she was Diana still worked, for example.
For some reason, I always find Cressida completely average. I just googled her sister, and found some pics of Cressida that were pretty cute. The first time I remember reading about her was at an aristocratic wedding. She was wearing the ugly dress cut down to her navel, combined with the disco glittery blue jacket cut just as low. Her hair looked like she just came from the beach, and she had her mouth gaping wide braying. This has somehow permanently implanted in my brain, and I can’t seem to get passed it. Combined with the fact that each time I’ve seen her since she looks like an extra from the musical Hair, I’m left completely underwhelmed.
Having said all that, if she were someone on the street, I’d probably describe her as “cute”. Harry seems to go for cute, and good for him. This has no reflection on her character or worth as a person, I just can’t conjure up any like for the girl.
Royals only date extremely wealthy people.
CP Mary and Letizia are middle class, aren’t the? Are there any others?
mayamae, that jacket and dress absolutely did not belong together!
Tatjana: that is not true as demonstrated by Carl Philips of Sweden, CP Victoria of Sweden, heck even Charlene of Monaco.
Eugenie’s BF isn’t rich, neither were Sophie or Autumn. Mike has made his money via sports, but again, not from rich background.
Indeed Bluhare. I’m not into fashion, and even I could tell. Her bohemian thing just doesn’t do it for me.
Well, I liked the dress and Jacket so there! The Jacket made sense as the reception went into the night. You can’t see, but i’m sticking my tongue out at you both May and bluhare.
Stick that tongue out, FLORC! Just remember I’ve got the keys to the wiglet wagon!!!
You got me there… I withdraw my tongue… for now….
@ TATJENNA?? what did waitey bring to BRF? she’s pretty? All of us could be pretty wirh money. Once again the sugars miss the target. Her position NOW is to bring focus to social needs and shorttcomings of Joe public. No one since Diana has had a platform to DO GOOD! get your head put of your $%# long enough to look at the common man. Look at your neighborhood .. can you help. Kate middleton doesnt give a rats ass about you or me and she stills sleeps at night. I pity her
I think she wants to marry him and is just playing it very smart. I don’t have a lot of patience with this great dream of hers to become a professional dancer. She’s already 25, and that’s about middle age for a dancer, assuming you’re one of the rare ones who make it. Come on.
At 25 she might honestly not want to get married yet, so I don’t think it’s a game at all. The press has spun this up to be more than it is and the few legit quotes have all said basically the same thing. Cressida is not yet ready for marriage.
Harry might need to find someone that does want to get married. Having similar goals is really important in marriage and I’m not seeing that here. Granted it’s still early.
I’m with Ladyslippers I think. She’s only 25; she might want a few years before she settles into a life of boring monotony.
Yes, 25 is young for marriage. Based on Cressida’s closeness with Isabella Branson, I would wager a good bet that Cressida will feel more inclined to marry and have babies when her elder sister starts having children. Its the baby fever. Its seriously infectious.
That’s kind of interesting that this comes from a “proper” newspaper as Kaiser said…which makes me think this is likely legitimate. I do buy that she may be “waity”….remember when Harry once made a crack about how he “has to find a girl for the job” or something like that? My guess is a lot of these aristocratic girls with tons of cash are very gun-shy about joining the firm even if they do get to be a princess because of the fish bowl they’ll live in and the multiple things they’ll have to give up.
So why did he only go for aristocrats?
Probably because, despite the fact that many might be “gun-shy” about it as Lark mentioned, the aristocratic girls are best equipped to handle the lifestyle and the pressure. I’m sure they are also the most comfortable associating with royalty, and least likely to be awestruck or intimidated by Harry because of his status.
I think he only goes for aristos because they are the only ones he have and can trust to not sell what happened between them to press even if they play media from time to time. William went to uni so he was able to meet Kate an outsider there but Harry never went to university and pretty much stuck with people he knew his all life. It’s exactly like how things work in real life, where people more often then not end up with people from their own social scene. At least that’s what my experience have been.
You tend to marry who you hang with and he hangs with an aristocratic crowd.
I don’t believe that they’re any more trustworthy than anyone else, but their proximity to Harry would make any selling a bit problematic.
The Telegraph is not a proper newspaper anymore, that’s it. It is not just about the Royals, but they have published a lot of rubbish recently. So that makes me wonder if they’re receiving some ‘input’ to publish these stories about Harry/Cressida.
But a lot better than USWeekly. And it’s still better than a lot of other papers in the UK.
I’m not British so I’m not totally in the know about the aristocracy but all this talk about aristo gals being so much better for handling the pressures of the royal family etc can be so maddening. It’s 2014, it’s time to start loosening the grip on the class system!! The public feeds the stupid notion that these people are so much better than “commoners”. Just because it’s ‘old world/old money’ doesn’t make them special people. So why the constant on-a-pedestal putting?
Okay don’t chew my head off but aristo girls being able to handle royal life better then ‘commoners’ seems logical to me not because of the class system but simply because their families and RF aren’t very different then that of a normal rich or middle class families. For example all the aristo families have long history related to royalty, their connections to their titles and places around their estate homes, simple put they have rich family history and might understand the importance of carrying out one’s family history further as important and vital. On the other hand normal girls might only know or associate with grand parents and nothing before that and hence might not understand the importance to traditions and history like aristos because in normal families rules are changed with every generation and people hardly have centuries old traditions to carry out. Above all things the 1 thing that works in their favor is that they grow up with royalty or RF, so RF is not at all alien to them hence they can adopt and participate better. For example I can never ever imagine myself marrying a royal and living in that world, but I can see it might not be such a daunting idea from Cressida because she grew up with them.
Diana was from the aristocracy and it didn’t help her.
I agree, I think the class system in the U.K. is insane….However, my point was I can see how the “aristocracy,” the pomp and circumstances, and the connections may be alluring to someone like Kate or from a middle-class background. However, for people like Cressida who grew up with tons of family connections and palling around with princesses….she’s not going to gain that much by stepping a little up the social ladder (in fact, the cons may outweigh the pros). She basically lives like a royal, has tons of family connections, but doesn’t have the cons of being a royal. Why give that up when she already associates with the princesses? Chelsy chose her high-powered career and the ability to live an independent life over being with Harry.
Angelic 21
People may not like that there’s a system of aristocrates and commoners in this age, but what you’re saying is completely valid.
Cressida is just a better fit because of her family’s status, history, and title.
And to add to @angelic21’s comment aristo girls presumably know to turn a blind eye to their husband’s indiscretions whereas us working and middle class folks will throw our man’s stuff out the window, change the locks and have a lawyer on the phone even before he knows what hit him.
I love everything Angelic said except I know that respect and honor for one’s family heritage/tradition is not limited to the aristo/upper class. Its just that they think they are the only ones with a heritage worth honoring and preserving. Pffft. I live in a country made up almost exclusively of immigrants, each generation of which struggled through incomprehensible hardship to succeed. And each generation showed a respect for keeping their family/cultural heritage alive and intact to pass it to the next generation. And most of them were the poorest of the poor.
Serious question. Could some of the Brits give me some ideas on good British sites?
cubfan34, of course it helped her. We didn’t see Diana in Kate MIddleton’s situations. Don’t mix the cheating and personal pain with it.
Commenting only to say that The Telegraph is NOT a proper newspaper anymore.
To be honest, even The Guardian went downhill……….
Yeah, not buying the dancing career option, but I will give her props for not being anxious to get on that royal train. It won’t leave the station without her, so she knows she can play a bit hard to get; or maybe, she might even be deciding if it’s what she really wants. This will pay off nicely down the road, giving her more respect than Kate ever got for her wait-y persona.
I do think this playing hard to get will benefit her not only in her relationship but also with media if the relationship doesn’t work out. I know it’s crass to say this but this makes her more equal to him then Kate ever considered herself with William. Kate was ever so grateful for Will to even look her way but I don’t think Cress feels that way with Harry even if she wants to marry him.
Did Kate wait so much because she wanted to be a royal or because she really loved William? She always seemed to be much more in love with him than he was with her.
She waited so much because she was really in love with PRINCE WILLIAM. IMO she was/is madly in love with the idea of being PRINCE WILLIAM”S WIfE and A PRINCES. Both things are very entangled with each other and she was never able to separate them. In short if William were just William Wales I can bet my house she would’ve never waited for him for so long, change everything about herself to suit his requirements or let him treat her so badly( neither will he mother would’ve allowed).
But how do you know? How does anyone know that?
I agree, Tatjana, no one really knows. I also don’t understand why people act like he married her unwillingly. I think he wanted to be sure, and didn’t want to marry too young, and he dated other people, but nobody forced him to marry her. I think a lot of factors entered into it, but I do believe they love each other. Of course, I don’t know anymore than anyone else does.
Tatjana
We can’t know that and you can’t know she really loved him for him. Neither can be proven because we’re not in her head or privy to intimate conversations… Unless those hacking transcripts ever go public outside of the controlled pr releases…
What many have drawn from mountains of now redacted evidence is Kate was treated terribly by William. So terribly many people thought she couldn’t be in love with a man that treated her so poorly, but rather his status and title. If she had been treated like this from a normal, wealthy man many feel should would have left. But she was treated this way by the future King so she put up with it while laying no foundation to survive without him.
And it doesn’t help that their timelines paint Kate as someone only pursuing William if he was single or not.
Although you’re corrct that for many years William acted single while Kate wouldn’t leave his side.
GoodNames
As far as the “no one forced William to marry Kate” argument goes there’s being forced and having no other alternative.
By marrying Kate he avoided the bad press that he strung a girl along and never married her while taking her best years. (Not my words, but was in an article.)
This marriage just seems more like an arrangement that has worked out for all involved. So, he wasn’t forced, but he didn’t give the impression he married her for love. More because it was his only viable option unless he wanted to be branded a playboy future King.
Or at least that’s my take. Had there not have been the press backlash against him for his and Kate’s last break up I doubt an engagement would have happened.
FLORC – you said William treated Kate so terribly that she should have ended the relationship. What exactly did he do to her?
I think it’s obvious we are sharing our OPINIONS and not facts. So of course this is my impressions just like it’s your impression that she loves him more then him. We all have out interpretations and opinions and not facts, i thought it doesn’t need to be said with every comment.
O f course William wanted to marry her but I do think she is not the love of his life or his priority or his first choice of wife. The fact be got rejected every time he tried to date someone played a huge part in marrying her. IMO he settled for her and does love her in his own way.
The thing that sticks in my memory is of Kate asking William, “Are you happy?” on their wedding day. Geeeeeez. I would guess that he’s just not that into her.
Of course she waited for him. He had such performances… It made her look cheap for being willing to still wait for him after that. On top of that, his line “She is important to me NOW” from the engagement interview was the cherry on the cake. Let’s see how important exactly.
FLORC is right. The negative PR if he had completely left her behind at this point would have been too damaging to risk it. It was much easier and much safer to arrange the marriage. However, from a professional point of view, I don’t think they calculated the risk of having her as she is in the family either. Or didn’t put enough effort in training her. Which would mean they didn’t want/expect her to become part of the BRF.
Anne
William was a well known owner of a wandering eye. His ex’s have said in their own words he has a hard time being faithful in regards to why the relationship ended.
In regards to Kate specifically William would make fun of Kate’s family’s money (being new money) and her mother’s former occupation (doors to manual). His friends joined in with the teasing and even Harry called her a “limpet” because she was so clingy to him at all times.
Even when Kate and William had their known break ups and William stood on a table in a bar and publicly announced he was “free” Kate only waited for him to change his mind. And it was well covered when she lost weight, dropped her interests and adopted his. Dated his friends and was at all the same parties as him to get him back.
If you were dating a guy who cheated on you or at the very least made fun of you to his friends and periodically broke up with you…Would you stay? And would you drop your friends and hobbies to be available should he want you back?
There’s a strong case easily made that Kate put all her eggs in his basket.
If William actually made fun of Kate and her family, is he making fun of us as well?
It wouldn’t surprise me a bit. From any of them. We’re all a bit common, you know, and some of the royals think their Royal Blood makes them very special indeed.
Oh please, this girl is planting stories every other week — the only difference is that instead of Katie Nicholl, she’s trying to look sophisticated with The Telegraph.
I just pointed that out! (#8). Seriously, it’s so obvious. Either she or the palace wrote this shit.
Maybe so, but she’s doing it pretty well. Planting stories aside.. I’m holding back my judgement until she is married in. If she’s lazy or a hard worker is what i’m waiting for.
Nah, I think she’s trying to counter false claims with some key quotes here and there.
I don’t think she wants to get married. She probably likes Harry just fine just not the crap that he brings to the table.
No, I think someone in Cressida’s camp has leaked stuff probably a half a dozen to a dozen times in her almost two years of heightened interest. That’s hardly her ‘masterminding’ anything or leaking stories all the time. This leak is partly out to tell people to stop believing all the marriage rumours the press keeps creating.
Not everything a paper or a magazine puts out is true. The press plays lots of games but that doesn’t mean the subjects they write about play along.
I think her brother went to the Telegraph last year too. It might be they go to a person they know to ‘set the record straight’. But I’d have to go and dig up her brothers quote to compare.
There are a lot more stories popping up about her mother pulling a Carole and shepherding this relationship along. Probably seeing it as fate since she now is on daughter #2 involved with prince. Better not mess it up twice! Ha!
But Talie, that brings up a really good point.
Did Carole *really* mastermind the relationship between Kate and William? And what about all the quotes coming from people that state Cressida doesn’t want to get married to anyone right now? How much is the press making crap up and reusing story lines?
I’m not saying anyone is right or wrong but lots of Royal relationships seem to have masterminds but how much is created by the press?????? ‘Masterminding’ isn’t something that happens much anymore.
(I also don’t wonder if these Mary-Gayle quotes are a bit tongue-in-cheek too)
Mary Gaye.
Thanks bluhare. But it is hyphenated, yes?
I’ve seen it both ways.
I know every week we read about how Cressy isn’t sure and isn’t ready to get married. This is just like Clooney’s women saying every month how they don’t want to get married or don’t want children. Whenever someone is protesting that much you know the opposite is true. I guess Cressy’s camp is under the impression that if you say it enough everyone will believe it.
But in this case I see it as the press beating a drum that’s not true. It’s the press that’s determined to marry him off because it sells papers. Even in articles where it states she doesn’t want to get married, the writer still insists to the contrary.
Heck, we don’t even know how true it is that *Harry* wants to settle down. That could be made up by the press as well.
Cressida will never have to justify Harry’s interest in her, or his decision to propose, the way that Kate had to. I’m not a huge Kate fan, but I’m sure it was difficult to be treated like an interloper because her family isn’t aristocratic. Cressida is already “in” in a social sense, and won’t have to deal with any of that pressure. She has the luxury of making Harry wait – Kate didn’t seem to have the same clout with William.
People forget that Sophie married in and wasn’t an aristo like Diana or Sarah was/is. Sophie has done very well w/o those aristo connections. Chelsy wasn’t an aristo either, and she just had enough self awareness to know that the BRF would not ever be ‘her thang’.
It’s really more to do with maturity, self awareness, self motivation, who you are as a person, and how supportive that RF is to begin with that determines your success in *any* RF (think of the Danish Royal Family as opposed to the Japanese Imperial Family).
However, Edward was older and ahem, a confirmed bachelor. I think they have an arrangement. She was a PR person, after all.
Not sure about an arrangement! lol They seem genuinely very happy with one another.
Edward and Sophie dated more discreetly for years before taking the plunge (benefits of being a younger son). And Sophie is a whole different kettle of fish from Diana and Sarah.
Imo, Edward basically married his best friend/confidante. They have a great life and a great family but I never thought they were in love. It was a win/win, I’ve always thought. As for Chels, people keep saying she was too independent/intelligent to deal with the drama that goes with being a royal. Yeah, okay. Chels was too independent/intelligent to give up an awesome life with family and friends for a lovable but liquor soaked prince with a too full schedule and one to many shenanigans to explain. The media and especially the royals never daunted her. She was determined, good-natured girl who saw she could do better.
Snark,
I attribute the break up of Harry and Chelsy to both being young. They both partied and he (as most young men are) was too immature yet to commit in the way she wanted or deserved. She also knew that she wanted more of a real life than cutting ribbons. Nothing wrong with that.
The problem is Cressida is pretty young too and sounds like she might have different goals than Harry does. Also nothing wrong with that (assuming Harry really does want to settle down).
Lady
I agree with you but it gives me serious side-eye when people are uncomfortable calling out Harry. The royals should not be our heroes. We should, instead, extract things about their legacy/heritage/sense of duty and honor that are noble and admirable (if they are there, of course) I can admire a hek of a lot of things about Harry without excusing all of his flaws. And he’s my favorite, lol. But yes, your Harry/Chels take is right. And if we are to believe Cressy doesn’t want to rush into marriage, I like her a lot more.
Snark,
I’m trying to give all of them the same leeway we give each other. It’s very similar to what I said on a previous post — they are all
still human and they really aren’t that much different than us. Most people in their 20’s, especially military people, party a lot. I’ve also seen women turn down the military lifestyle because it’s TOUGH and ain’t for everyone.
So I don’t think Harry is a hero OR a douche bag. I think, like the rest of us, he’s a complicated mix of good and bad. And with Chelsy he was young and immature too boot which is a always a bad combo.
“Miss Bonas is “not really a party girl”, according to one close friend, “though when she is at a party she is terrific fun. She is very funny, incredibly affectionate, incredibly sweet. Harry won’t find anyone better than her because there isn’t anyone better than her.”
This makes me believe that Cressida’s the “source”.
I’d wager the York sisters could also be a source by the sound of the statement. It follows suit that Cressida is well liked and no one has come out with any mean-girling stories.
Only flattering accounts.
We did have more time with Kate and so more negative stories, but I wonder if Cressida really is just a nice girl.
Actually, are there any negative stories as of yet? Links if so please : )
Florc,
My guess is the York princesses (less likely) or even Cressida’s siblings (more likely). Heck, over Harry’s deployment to Afghanistan there was speculation it was her mom leaking but equally likely is a sibling too. Someone a paper would think is very credible but doesn’t want to be sourced though.
I give major props to her brother being brave enough to be named. He he spoke to the Evening Standard last year.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-harry/10467106/Cressida-Bonas-may-struggle-becoming-a-princess-her-brother-warns.html
Regarding negative stories- there are some. Most current one is where this foolish immature woman had a recent photo taken of her rather suggestively as if she were about to lick a tusk. This was done @ week after Harry had attended the event with his dad and brother (after hunting in Spain) to prevent rhinos, elephants from being slaughtered for their tusks.
There has been disputes as to if this was a real tusk or not- imo it is more about the despicable errant non-nonchalant disregard for innocent creatures with a “in your face I can do anything I please and keep Harry” attitude in this photo.
The media refuse to write about it because they are pushing a shy sweet innocent girl image (from her PR rep) and for a wedding.
Sam Branson was asked about this on twitter. He responded poorly imo. But the arrogance of his reply was basically people should take his word for it that she is passionate about animals rather than the actual image she posed for.
One can make of it what you will. I for one have come to believe Harry is a hypocrite for continuing with someone who blatantly courts media and attention along with this recent photo.
Interestingly, the following week they made their “official” coming out together events. So was this to simmer down people’s disgust with her or to deflect from his brother’s lavish holiday in Maldives? It is anyone’s guess.
For links I suppose google the “tusk licker” should suffice.
I come on this site for fun, but on this issue I find it disgrace and insulting to wildlife and the real people who care and make efforts to preserve animals and prevent slaughtering. I will never donate money to these brothers’ charities again after this. I feel that strongly.
LadySlippers
I wasn’t literally claiming the York sisters are leaking to the press. Just that it sounds like a friend. It was poor wording by myself.
Fairy Godmother
The “tusk” photo is a good example of people trying to attack her. She isn’t giving them much ammo and was that photo 1. ever dated? and 2. proven to not be a tusk at all?
FLORC- as I stated whether the tusk was actually real or not is not the point- it is the image itself and connotations it suggests.
IMO it is a real tusk, polished and mounted. Think what you like if it is real or not. IMO It was stupid thing to do for attention. The photo I saw was on private social media site and dated on one of her close friends.
You may think people are trying to attack, but in this particular instance it is about a very tacky stunt she pulled and posted it. There are people who are trying to bring awareness/offended by this cause which she chose to make a mockery of.
I know people who have met her. Their impression of her is she chose to be nice to those who have something like a title, social standing, and money. The first time I said maybe she was having a bad day, but this was at a few social functions and elsewhere. They refer to as a royal WAG. Very telling imo.
Fairy Godmother
I think attacking Cressida in any way possible is going to happen no matter how innocent or stupid a photo was intended to be.
Just like Harry’s old photo of him kneeling next to a kill. It was years ago yet drudged up to defelct maybe? Bottom line… No negative stories about William or Kate. Just Harry’s questionable future fiance.
And Cressida may be a WAG. A lady who lunches. I’m still holding back my harsh judgement until her homes are owned by the public and her husband is a prince.
Then if she’s lazy without a sense of duty like Harry seems to have I will get judgy.
Just like Kate. I didn’t get judgy until she proved her ove of shopping was on par with her level of apathy for people outside her family.
The bar has been set very low though. I will praise more easily for wearing ones hair up than a few years ago.
Why are they trying to make us like her so hard?
“is “not really a party girl”, according to one close friend, “though when she is at a party she is terrific fun. She is very funny, incredibly affectionate, incredibly sweet. Harry won’t find anyone better than her because there isn’t anyone better than her.”
Pffft. My eyes are sore right now from all the eyerolling.
Another thing that does make Cress different then Kate despite her wanting to marry in, She moved in a rental property in a very diverse, multi cultured and people with different background and incomes with a girlfriend in Shepherds Bush. She not only have friends, she also have roommates and she is not living in a posh bubble like with Kate, and it does look like she is budgting herself again something commoner Kate never did. I do see similarities between them but they are not alike IMO. Here link to where she just moved in with a girlfriend
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2581855/MOS-DIARY-Chez-Harry-No-Cressida-Bonas-sets-home-Shey-Boo-Thats-chums-call-Shepherds-Bush.html#ixzz2w76nlRbx
Oh come on. She’s way more “posh” than Kate because of her family background. She’s a blue blood through and through.
What Angelic21 is saying is that Cressida is choosing to live in an area that is multi cultural/multi racial/multi income with different types of people.
Kate lived between her family home and Chelsea. Kate’s homes (family and her flat) were in the royal counties/borough with high income, predominantly posh white people.
So there is a difference right there.
Cressida can live just like Kate, and live in that posh bubble, instead she’s choosing not to.
But of course Cressida’s “commoness” is safe because she comes from a more posh background than Kate. Kate must claw tenaciously to her family’s reputation.
She was sharing a place there with her Forbes gf. I do not know why this old story was brought up unless she changed to a different apartment.
Or maybe Branson decided to not “sponsor” a new apartment for her. Lol!
Shepherd’s Bush(certain parts of it anyway) is actually a very nice area. My friend lives there and the area in which she lives is incredibly posh – it’s just a more ‘bohemian’ type Chelsea so I wouldn’t read too much into Cressida choosing to live there. It certainly doesn’t set her apart from Kate in this instance.
I live in Kensington, and I can tell you, the difference between Chelsea vs Shepherd’s Bush, even the posh bits, is huge. Most of those ‘bohemian’ trustafarians tend to go to Nottinghill.
Now, i’m not saying that Shepherd’s Bush is a rough neighbourhood, but it’s a sharp contrast to Chelsea, not just in housing, but in variety of people, cultures etc that you find there.
Meeting other types of people in Shepherd’s bush isn’t so hard. Just walk out of your front door.
You’d have to work very hard to find non posh people in Chelsea.
I agree with you LAK. I used to live in Shepherd’s Bush before marriage and it’s not at all posh compared to Chelsea or Kingston.
HappyMom, to define people based on being born in an aristocratic family and automatically stamp them “posh” in a negative sense is equally as bad as blaming the so called “commoners” for not being born into such a family. You don’t expect anyone to apologise for their background, do you? I wouldn’t.
There’s no one better than Cressida for Harry? Really? Sounds like the Bonas-Calthorpe-Ans whatever clan PR people are working overtime on this one. That indicates, to me anyway, that she is playing the game (quite well, actually) and does want the title and position. She is right about one thing, though, she is too young to marry now. Come on Harry, branch out a little; do something unexpected.
Does he have to marry a Brit? Most European royals married foreigners, didn’t they?
It depends on the country.
Margrethe II of Denmark has been rumoured to encourage her boys to marry non-Danish women and both did. In Norway and Sweden they mostly keep it in country. On the main continent it again varies but there is nothing set in stone.
I think it depends on how you socialise and what a person is looking for when choosing a mate.
Oh please. Kate 2.0.
I hope you don’t mind me asking but aren’t you used to be Kate’s fan? I remember talking with you after wedding and someone similar to your name was a huge Kate fan. Just curious.
If it makes you feel better Angelic I am the complete polar opposite of a Kate fan. My dislike of/disappointment in her is an ongoing joke amongst my friends and family – I, however, completely agree with Dani (whether she’s a Kate fan or not). I really don’t see how Cressida is any different to Kate at 25 years old and to be able to say so or in any other way criticise Cress, one does NOT have to be a Kate fan/fanatic.
Oh I was not saying anyone have to be Kate fan or not to say anything about Cress. I just have a personal experience with most people around me being very disappointed in Kate and Will, who before liked them. I was just curious because I remembered name similar to Dani as a Kate fan and was wondering whether this shift in opinions is taking place here at CB as well.
Can’t speak for Dani, but CB certainly helped change me from adoring fan to skeptic.
Not me. There’s like 5 Dani’s. I don’t mind Kate, don’t have anything against her really but don’t love her either.
It’s a job, and a horrible one at that! All those bosses to please (the Queen), and the media scrutiny, you have to be willing to lead a very circumscribed life. She comes from a wealthy family and doesn’t seem used to having to conform, nor have any inclination to. Maybe with all the wealth and freedom, she’s not that interested in having a title under those circumstances. Plus, every time I see pictures of them together, he definitely seems more smitten than she.
Pictures and spin has been light so far. So light many people doubted they were even a couple until a few weeks ago.
Sadly, the press’s take on this story and how they frame it is how people will perceive her. Be it Waity 2.0 or Young love the press will release articles and control the popular opinion.
When Cressida is to be loved up many photos and stories will flood the news sphere to make us grow fond of her.
Sounds like Cressie’s PR team propagating an image that Cressie is the antithesis of the Duchess of Cambridge. Personally I think they are one in the same with Cressida feeling more entitled than the Duchess. Cressida was a born aristocrat who probably feels like she has nothing to prove since her birthright gives her automatic admission into high society.
She also has acted and might wish to pursue that (not just dancing) and is having a think about it. Plus she might be fond of the boy but not of the family, so to speak, meaning the whole tabloid and tea towels shebang. And it’s possible that the dynamic between Kate and Wm isn’t making the choice look great. Maybe she still wonders if Harry has a thing for Chelsy? Maybe it’s yeah, our Harry, she’s fond and a little smitten, but no sparks — perhaps she prefers the Sparkles or Cumby or Chiwetelu or Chris Pine or Leto or hell, Russell Brand type? I mean, who knows? Maybe she is a pleasant thing but not one to go all in?
Or this is more Middleton press work, a head game to make Harry go, Hmmm…..why is she not rushing to say yes, hmm? — Because I still think they hope to somehow get Pippa in there (as unlikely on a hundred thousand counts that may be) or at any rate someone “less than” Kate. Someone less able to mime Princess Bride.
Madame Liberté,
I honestly think this is a legit leak. It jives with what her brother has said and my guess is this story is hoping to squash the belief they will get married soon. This is not the first time we’ve heard that Cressida doesn’t want to get married and probably won’t be the last.
In general people need to sort through the BS stories (which most are), the rehash stories (we’ll get that too), and the legit stories. And learn to ignore the BS crap.
BUT!!! Harry might have quit smoking which is a total yippee from me!!!!
I agree about all the BS.
I thought Harry stopped smoking while training for South Pole trek.
Wow- they sure are making him look like a hopeless lost case until Watercress squeezed her way into his life. Guess she wears the pants in this ‘relationship’. LOL!
Really. It’s as if any positive changes in Harry are her doing and hers alone. It couldn’t possibly be maybe Harry has grown up and matured over the years. He’s almost 30 years old, not 20 anymore.
@Ladyslippers — agreed.
Yay that he gave up smoking, though, for whatever reason.
Sorry but she’s 25 ? She needs to stop dressing like a teeny-bopper. Also does she have a dancing career to pursue? That ship might have sailed, my dear.
She did pursue it. She did well in dance and left to get a more career geared job. And to her credit she did so without being publicly shamed into doing so.
FLORC-
Cressida didn’t leave dance for a more career oriented job. I don’t think dance was ever an option. A friend of mine is a professional dancer- she breathes, sleeps, and eats dance. Anyone who is serious about making dance a career doesn’t begin the process in their early 20s, it starts much sooner than that. Cressida may have studied dance at University, doesn’t mean she was all that serious about it. All it means to me is, unlike most of us, she has the luxury of pursuing a degree more out of pleasure and interest alone, rather than necessity. A degree in dance doesn’t get you a job. It shows what kind of training you may have had, yes. Ultimately though you have to audition for every job, so it is really about your talent & what you can do that matters.
You dislike that Kate got a job post-University solely (according to you and some others) because she was “publicly shamed into doing so.” Yet you continue to praise Cressida, for what exactly? For getting her *first* job at age 24? A job that nepotism may have had a lot to do in her landing. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I guess I don’t understand why you kick one, and commend another when as far as I can see, they are both on the same level in the career department.
Me
I agree with that Cress was/is never really interested in being a dancer as a professional and just pursued it as a hobby and for pleasure. I also think you are neither Kate or Cress ambitious to have a career but 1 of them perused a hobby which is again not newsworthy or admirable to say the least.
At the end of the day I think what will make them or break them is what they do after getting married to a prince. As of now Kate does next to nothing and we’ll see what Watercress will bring to the table.
Angelic
If Harry and Cressida do get married (I don’t think they will), how she performs in her role will have a lot to do with Harry, if he continues on the path he’s on now. It would be hard to be married to him I think and not be driven in some way.
Not that Kate is completely blameless, but I think more than anything she follows William’s lead. When her husband is more than comfortable doing nothing but sit on his behind, why should anyone expect you to do otherwise? Kate might just be dense and socially unaware enough to believe what William does is acceptable. He is the heir after all. Obviously no one is telling her differently.
memme
So, how long ago did she leave dance? Dates please.
And yes, you exist for dance when you’re in it for a career, but often it becomes too demanding for your body or an injury happens. That’s not always covered for us to know. She did do quite well. Better than if it was just a spare time hobby or something to study for a degree.
And yes I lay into Kate, but what’ you’re missing here is that if timelines and context are followed she was shamed into it and promptly quit after pr defense had a foundation.
I also gave Kate lots of time. Lots of doubt that she would turn it around. It never happened and seems to only get worse. On other sites I was a Kate defender and here I will praise now and then, butthe bar is set very low.
Cressida will get the same treatment from me on these threads. If she’s lazy and vacations too much I will be no fan. As she is now she seems fine and i’m not judging until she’s on the publics money.
FLORC
You comment on her as a dancer often enough I would think you would have the dates. You yourself said she left dance in your previous comment. What I know is she graduated Uni circa 2012, this I gather from articles I’ve read about her. How do you know how well she did? What, outside of school, has she done with dance? I don’t want to be argumentative, I’m really curious to know her resume.
I think what you mean is you won’t *criticize* until she is on the public’s money. You have been judging, albeit on a more positive note.
Memme – Kate *was * publicly shamed into getting a job. She sat on her butt for 2yrs after university and by all accounts was doing nothing. not even covering at her parents’ company. no whispers of her trying to get a job anywhere.
BTW: Here is a sample of some of the articles shaming Kate that finally moved her to get a job.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1048599/And-DO-Queen-wants-Kate-Middleton-charity-job-counter-claims-workshy.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1023379/Queen-Kate-proper-job-Prince-William-announces-engagement.html
The jigsaw owner said that Kate rang her personally and requested a job, though was rather vague about the details except that she had to have one and that it had to be flexible enough to cater to her relationship with a high profile man.
read the details of Kate’s Jigsaw job here:http://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/kates-not-precious-she-mucked-in-at-jigsaw-6922185.html
Once she left the jigsaw job, she was said to be working for her parents though that has always been in dispute because every job she was said to be working on within the company was eventually credited to someone else, meanwhile the vacations and the clubbing continued unabated.
To me, the difference is that Cressida went out and got a job. even if that was by nepotism. she didn’t sit around until newspapers were calling her names and HM was being dragged into her lack of any sort of career by cressida.
BTW: whether or not Cressida was pursuing dance as a hobby, she went as far as attending classes at the Royal Ballet school, that degree at Leeds and a post graduate at The Trinity Laban. Here is trinity’s website: http://www.trinitylaban.ac.uk/study/dance
It might have been a hobby, but she had to audition to be accepted at all those schools and it shows a level of dedication that she took it that far.
For the same reason you give, that dance is all consuming, one has to realise how far they can take it, your friend included, so have you considered that perhaps Cressida realised that for all her training she couldn’t go any further?
I wasn’t trying to make light of Cressida’s commitment to dance. My point remains she was not serious about it long-term like so many people are trying to make out. She was not interested in it as a career, merely a hobby. A passionate hobby, sure, but nothing more.
Yes, it takes tremendous dedication to study dance, but really you could say that about any subject at a university level. I feel people use that as a way to one-up her against Kate. Look at Kate- she spent as much time at St Andrews dedicating herself to an Art History degree, graduating with honors. What has Kate been up to since April 30, 2011? Dedication in dance doesn’t necessarily equal ambition in life, is all I’m saying.
And as for the job she has now, are we so sure it was not given to her for the same reason Kate had to get one, public shaming aside? If she wants to look good as Prince Harry’s girlfriend and future wife candidate, she can hardly be sitting around doing nothing. We all know how well that went over with Kate. So many stories now weekly on this girl, you would think one of them would update us on her new career. It’s been the same thing for nearly a year now, though: she had to get a more serious job because of Harry. And, what of it?
Memme: You can’t say with absolute certainty that she was pursuing it as a hobby, just as i can’t say with absolute certainty that she couldn’t go further or quit to better suit Harry.
As for her job, she graduated June 2013. She’s had a job for about 3months now. Nepotism aside, she hasn’t sat around for 2 years like Kate did before being publicly shamed into getting a job. Jigsaw has been around since the 90s, so it’s not as if Kate couldn’t pull that card ahead of being publicly shamed into doing so. Cressida has a job, whatever level it may be, 6months AFTER graduating unlike Kate who waited 2 years after graduation.
And the papers hadn’t started to weigh in on Cressida in serious way such that they could publicly shame her into a job. Kate was given the same leeway. The papers didn’t really start reporting on her in a negative fashion for several years AFTER she sat around for several years. And again, whether Cressida learnt the lesson of Kate, she’s acted on it without media prompting and calling her names for it. And for me that’s what makes her different from Kate.
Memme
I made the comment, but didn’t state it in a way where dates were needed to a more exact degree. Just that first there was dance and then there was work.
You challenged it wasn’t 1 after the other. By that statement I assumed you knew exact dates. That’s all.
Thanks for the spell check. I welcome it when it’s not given ithin a snarky comment. And I’m aware this sounds snarky, but i’m not sure how to phrase it otherwise. I’ve turned off my auto correct (too many errors) and don’t always google a word for proper spelling. Might we type in my native language i’m confident I can spell much better.
I do get relly judgy here. It’s an outlet or “escapism”.
To everything else… What LAK said.
LAK
I was trying to find exact dates regarding her graduation, but came up empty handed. As for the job though, reports go as far back as October/November. Including this one you yourself commented on:
http://www.celebitchy.com/333646/is_cressida_bonas_quitting_dance_so_she_can_become_more_princessy_for_harry/
Maybe it’s because I’ve been hearing so much about her for the past year and a half, information seems to go back further than they actually do. Timestamps are muddled in my brain. Apologies for that.
LAK
“Memme: You can’t say with absolute certainty that she was pursuing it as a hobby, just as i can’t say with absolute certainty that she couldn’t go further or quit to better suit Harry.”
Exactly. So why don’t we treat this as what it is, a swapping of opinions? My comments are purely speculation. Same as yours, same as all the others concerning Cressida. Unless someone on here does know her personally, and is pretending otherwise…
You have your mind made up about Kate and Cressida. That’s fine. I wasn’t trying to change your mind about them, just sharing my viewpoint. Which is Cressida Bonas age 25, is pretty much the same as Kate at that point in her life. With the exception of personality of course. I’ll wait to become a Cressida cheerleader, maybe when there is something more substantial to go on.
Also, it’s very easy to avoid making certain mistakes, when the one who came before you inadvertently taught you what you should and should not do.
Let’s agree to disagree, shall we?
Memme: i’d forgotten about that PA role. It sounded really vague at the time and yet people were slamming her for not having a substantial job.
This marketing job has been going on for 3mths, which is probably why it stuck in my brain.
So to sum, she’s had some type of job since November 2013 having graduated June 2013 which once again makes her better in comparison to Kate at the same point in their lives.
Ps: all the stories of her graduation were pulled down almost immediately they were reported on which is probably why you can’t easily find them when you google.
How does she have a marketing job? I know I asked this before and it’s different in the UK, but the fact that people.can get jobs they’re not qualified for blows my mind. You would need a degree in economics to get that kind of job here.
My guess is she might have taken marketing or business classes as part of her undergrad, possibly even minored in it as well. A minor would go on her résumé but it’s not something that the general public would know about. And, at least in the US, a business minor is very common no matter what your major is.
Also, we don’t know what *type* of marketing job it is. She could be in a fairly low position knowing that she’ll be able to get on the job training. A lot of places in the US actually like hiring people with fine art degrees because they ‘think outside the box’. And marketing often needs people with that creative spark coupled with the intense discipline that goes along with a performing arts major. It’s an ideal fit as they’ll probably have plenty of business types already.
You don’t have to study whatever area you eventually get employed in unless it’s specific to it eg Medicine.
That’s simply how it is here in Britain.
I didn’t know university degrees in the UK are thaz similar to the ones in the US.
Here, minors don’t exist. If you enroll.in the Faculty of economcs, you don’t get to study anything else unless you enroll in a full programme in a different faculty, but that’s very hard because of the schedules.
LAK,
Here in the US it’s more or less the same (the recession changed things a bit) and there are a lot of liberal art degrees that get hired in all kinds of positions unrelated to their focus of study. Health care and computers need a matching degree but almost anything else is fairly open.
Tatjana,
I honestly don’t know if the UK has minors either but I was trying to throw out other possibilities that could explain how or why a performance art degree might get hired into a different field.
Marketing is an extremely vast field. Advertising, sales, pure marketing and pricing strategies, marketing analyses, PR and event management are all marketing. She doesn’t need a marketing degree or business degree to do events, for example. Or to work in the theatre box office. Or to assist tickets sales. For PR it is recommended but judging by how many PRs are around those days, I guess it’s not that much anymore.
everyone keeps saying she isn’t ready to get married but has harry asked her? I don’t think he has. her mothers longtime boyfriend is a pr guy so that should tell everyone something right there. she has been handled with kid gloves this silly little girl.
In the UK, we don’t have minors. We have something called a joint degree but they have to be in the same field. E.g. English Lit and History or Maths and Economics. Also anyone can get into Marketing. After my Science degree I got my first job as Marketing PR but all I had to do was go around shopping centers and advertise products. They give you fancy names so it feels like you are doing something worthwhile.
This PR push is getting to be a bit annoying. She’s been to 1 event with him as his girlfriend. She’s no better or worse than Kate at this point. She’s not doing anything charitable. She’s just doing her thing, which is dancing. Call me when she starts her own non-profit and does something more than walk down a street.
Remember most of the articles about her were and are completely false.
@Original Mia
Don’t believe the hype!
Speaking as a Londoner, the Bonas Clan are like the Hiltons; party loving socialites, cheesy actresses/actors, polo playing gads about town; with their eyes on the chance.
No matter what their fans propagate on this board.
The Grosvenor girls are far better examples of classy, philanthropic, socially aware aristocrats. Their dad is richer then Oprah yet Tamara and Edwina Grosvenor are smart and intelligent. (Oh their youngest brother is a hip-hop head!! LOL)
Now *this* is something different, lol. Tell us more!
I’m not a fan.
I just don’t buy every single line that the press feeds me. And there is a lot of BS put out there for a lot of celebrities.
I so adore the Grosvenor family!
The daughters= especially Edwina’s hands on work with in mates- is remarkable!
I like the way the parents raised their children too.
Much better role models for the public.
@Jegede
I’m a Londoner too and I think your description of the Bonas clan is pretty much spot on.
Not really sure why Cress has so many ardent fans on here. She seems like a nice girl and all but I can’t see how she is any different from Kate pre-engagement. She’s 25, has had limited work/job experience and lives in an apartment bought for her by her family. There’s nothing wrong with any of those things, I’m just not seeing what sets her above Kate at this point (apart from being an aristocrat, and if that’s the only reason then I can’t roll my eyes hard enough)
Thanks for letting me know. Like the Hiltons? Oh, brother. That’s on par with the Kardashians.
Are those the same Grosvenors who had some huge party for someone’s ( can’t remember whose ) birthday ? I remeber reading it cost like 6 million phounds.
Tatjana, I think so. Grosvenor is the family name of the Duke of Westminster. He owns half of London (or so, please don’t jump on me if I don’t have that exactly right, people!) and is the wealthiest man in Britain. Or wealthiest British man.
I have heard the complete opposite about Governors. They own the area I work in and have the reputation of being HUGE snobs. All the son in laws are also know for being very rude, elitist and snobbish. The duke of Westminster gave his SIL millions so he would able to keep his daughter in the same life style, he offered Charles to carry out his affairs with Cam in his properties even though Duchess Westminster was a friend of Diana. Neither of their daughter have a legit career and pretty much live on Daddy’s money except ! daughter who is known for working for prison reforms. I don’t think they are any better then rest posh crowd or a good role model from everything I’ve heard of them. Maybe few example of why they are such good role models will help.
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Hey there. Your posts always give me life LOL
I’ll add that they are wonderful down to earth girls, who could have chosen to be party layabouts, Hooray Henriettas aristocrats or hobnobbing with the social hungry Bransons. They can certainly afford it
Edwina has done serious work low key for charity cases in places like Neasden, and Willesden in London from her teenage years to dedicated low key older work now with prison reform. Sons In Law being ‘elitist and snobbish’ is also a nonsense the Van Cutsem boy is a dick. But Edwina’s hubby Dan Snow is an aware historian and an all round great egg – good guy. I can’t say more without giving much away.
Just don’t believe the hype of the Bonas’ fans on here s_itting on everyone else; Kate, Billy, Carole, Tamara, Edwina e.t.c to make their faves look good.
The truth will out
I’m guessing you are talking about me in the end, if yes then please I would like to not called Bonas’s fan. As far as how great Westminsters are, as I said I have not seen any proof of it. Yes the only one everyone like is Edwina and her husband( she is the 1 who lost her baby?) and yes I have seen his shows on BBC. Other then her I have not seen anyone of them to do anything admirable or charitable or noble that makes them role models. If they have done I would really like to know about it and change my opinions. Even Branson do hell lot more for charity then Westminster even if it’s for publicity.
I love Harry but there aren’t enough tiaras in the UK to make me deal with the vodka and chain smoking. That cancels out the ginger.
One story I read said she’s got him to quit smoking (which might be why he looks like he’s got the beginnings of a second chin these days) and tells him to put his drink down if she thinks he’s getting out of hand. NO idea if it’s really true, but it’s great visual of Harry the scamp getting his hand slapped!
bluehare I don’t believe that story either the dm put up a picture of her smoking over the weekend which surprised me a bit. maybe the tabloids are done playing nice with her and her family as I mentioned her mothers longtime partner is a pr guy. ill say it now that when these two break up (harry and Cressida) it will be spun that she is to free bird and doesn’t want to get married and blah blah just like how it has been long rumored that will wnted to marry Isabella. this will get played how poor little harry is at home crying. watch this space
Thanks Kay. Maybe Harry can get her to quit. 🙂
She drinks just as much as Harry! Even at the game I saw she was drinking beer. It does not make her a bad person, but it does prove how much this PR is really BS.
I will reiterate Harry was trying to stop smoking when training for the South Pole Trek. Hopefully he gave it up for good by noticing how much better he was able to breath and complete the trek.
Everybody LOVES to drink in England. It’s British thing, we are know for our excessive drinking. That’s why no one comment on how much all William, Kate, Harry, Chelsy, Cressida etc drink because it’s normal to get drunk here. We like to wasted.
Totally OT but I have that problem a lot.
Is anybody else grossed out by the header pic of Cressida that accompanies all these stories?
What is she smelling? Her fingers? Her nail polish? Is she pulling a Rosalyn Rosenfeld from American Hustle?
ON that note we need a Prince Harry/Jennifer Lawrence hook up. The internet meltdown would keep me entertained for months.
LOL . . . on everything.
It has to happen.
THIS! all of it.
Waity or not, Kate will be queen.
She might be but I wouldn’t start counting your chickens just yet…
Lots of things could happen from now to then. Divorce, abdication, structure being abolished, death… And she won’t be Queen in the same way Queen Elizabeth 2nd is.
Right just Diana was supposed to be, oh wait……………
I don’t really know CB so I will reserve judgment. Right now she seems a nonentity.
If she marries Harry then the battle of the princesses will begin. Thanks to the media.
I do see Waity as being competitive with other women. She has the advantage in that no one can rise higher than she except in public opinion: she’s married to the future king and she bred an heir. If Cressida is as shallow as Waity, then the competition will be about the clothes and image. If Cressida actually does a lot of engagements, it would be the win of all times. Waity will counter whatever Cress wittingly or unwittingly throws at her. The fact that Cress is best buds with the Yorks gives her an advantage as well, but makes her that much more of an annoyance to Waity.
The dynamics will change once Harry marries. I hope it’s soon, because Waity is boring all by herself. The entertainment factor will rise exponentially with another woman in the mix, unless Cress turns out to be a total bore like Waity. I predict that the winner will be the one that ‘works’ more, IF the media actually covers it.
Total bore.
THAT would be prime entertainment for years! I hope so!
These girls ate what? 6 years apart? Kate looks old enough to be her mother. What did she do to age herself so much?
too much time in the sun, too many cigarettes, insufficient nutrition combined with crash dieting & weight loss.
They shouldn’t get married if they need to wait. That’s a big sign!! True love doesn’t need to wait. He should just mop the floor with her. She’s looks like toxic waste compared to Harry!
ariana I could not agree with you more.
She looks like a bit of a twit.
My God people are nasty about this poor girl.
My thoughts…
1. She is 25! No matter the guy; for many modern girls that is too young to get married. No way would I have gotten married at 25. I think this could very well be true. However, she is actually sadly a bit past it age-wise to develop a career on the stage as a dancer. In any case, I think she would be wise to carefully consider all of her options.
2. I cannot comprehend all of this hatred against Cressida and love of Chelsy. None of you actually know anything about either of these girls other than the bare basics. Do you seriously think you can judge someone’s character from a few photos and a few basic facts? You’ve never even heard either of them speak! For all you know, Chelsy is awful and Cressy is the most amazing person ever! The point being that you know nothing so stop being awful based on your snap judgments. Cressida does not need to “show” you anything. She is not a public persona, she just happens to be dating someone who is. And judging her because she is a dancer rather than a lawyer is harsh and ridiculous. Okay people in the Arts, you are all worthless! Move along and become lawyers immediately! Yeesh!
3. This girl is extremely pretty. Yes beauty is subjective; but she is not an actress or model and I’m guessing that if you saw her in a room full of people in real life you’d be thinking she was extremely pretty. Being awful about her appearance is just that; awful.