Benedict Cumberbatch’s scraggly otter fur covers Time Out London: hot or not?

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I really didn’t expect yesterday’s “secret girlfriend” post to blow up the way it did, but that’s what I get for underestimating the interest in Bendy Cumber. Benny Batch? Benedict Cumberbatch. Anyway, Bendy is starting to do print interview in support of The Imitation Game and his first big magazine cover this time around is… Time Out London? Don’t get me wrong, I like when a guy goes for more “local” press rather than industry press. And granted, this cover is strangely enchanting (the otter’s eyes are hypnotizing me). But I hope Bendy also gets, like, a cover of GQ or Details or some major magazine too.

In the Time Out interview, Bendy blamed Ellen DeGeneres for his now infamous photobombing of U2 at the Oscars. He said:

“Yes, I photobombed U2! But that was all Ellen DeGeneres’s fault because she plied everyone with vodka on the red carpet,” he alleged. “Her team was handing out these miniatures. A friend really wanted me to get a photo with U2. So I just saw the opportunity and I’ve never felt an impulse like it. I spotted them all standing around and I thought, ‘Perfect!’ It wasn’t preordained or anything. I just did it.”

And he admitted having a marvellous time at the awards.

“Oh god, I had a ridiculously good time. I was a little nervous, but then I got there and, like everything on screen, it was smaller than you expect it to be. I felt like I crashed the party a bit.”

[From MTV]

Bendy also gave a recent interview to Hello where he discussed his upcoming Oscar campaign. Only he’s very careful to not count his Cumbers before they’ve Batched. That’s how I’m taking this:

Benedict Cumberbatch has brushed off speculation that he is on track for his first Academy Award, insisting it is too early to start discussing winners. The Sherlock star, 38, has been tipped for the big prize after earning rave reviews for his new film The Imitation Game.

The modest actor told Hello! Magazine that although winning an Oscar would be “amazing,” it is “so premature that it would almost be futile to talk about it”.

“I understand why it always happens at festivals but I just got my suit back from the dry cleaners from this year’s Oscars,” he said. “There are lots of films to see before we start going, ‘Ooh, blah, blah’.”

For Cumberbatch, doing justice to a great story is his number one concern.

“The most important thing is that any kind of buzz creates an interest in the film, which means people will see it hopefully and that means the Alan Turing story will get to a broader audience,” he said. “And that, as a storyteller, is all I am concerned about. And if I have done a good job as him as well, that’s great.”

[From The Independent]

I like him for attempting to keep it real and this attempt at humility and perspective. But I think we’re past the point where Bendy can pretend that he’s not in The Weinstein Campaign Machine as we speak. Harvey Weinstein has already let it be known that he is really going to push TIG in general and Benedict in particular this season. Benedict is already on nearly all major critics’ “best of/Oscar prediction” lists. It’s also okay to come out and say, “Yeah, I’m going to campaign this year. I really believe in this film. I’m breaking out the velvet, darlings.”

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  1. delorb says:

    Hot. Although your mileage may vary. Love the scruff too. It really changes him…in a good way.

    • Brittney B says:

      Yes. I think this is the first time I’ve EVER thought that facial hair improved a man’s appearance. Ever.

  2. Mila says:

    He’s got a special edition print Elle UK cover in December. And this is just for the London Film Fest premiere of TIG, I’m sure we’ll get more when it comes out in November.

  3. Rhiley says:

    Now I will play Bendy saying, “few-tile,” in his rich dark chocolate voice, over and over and over in ma head all day.

  4. Lindy79 says:

    I think he looks great. He looks like himself.

    I said in the other thread I think he’s being cautious. He doesn’t want to sound like he has a nomination in the bag, because there’s a lot of other options this year so he doesn’t want to end up looking like an arrogant tit.
    He’s hedging his bets if you ask me but he’s trying to make it look like he’s not going to campaign because again if he does a Hathaway and loses he’ll look desperate and it will be humiliating but no way Weinstein will let him off with not doing the campaign trail. I’ve no doubt he’ll do anything he’s told, he’s too ambitious not to.

    (not a criticism of him)

  5. Indira says:

    The lone curl! The ginger scruff! The blue eyed gaze of doom! Sigh!

  6. PunkyMomma says:

    Do not like the whiskers on My Otter. Not. One. Bit.

    But the lone curl is another story. Swoon.

  7. Nic says:

    Gorgeous, but it feels a bit.. dunno. I don’t feel his spirit coming through in these photos. Don’t know why. But he always looks beautiful. Interview cute too. I love the idea if him in a dithering bluster trying to leave his house for the sixth time.
    Also like his level of honesty unchanging too. Good to hear he admits he’s being pestered a bit on the US promo side of things and I genuinely believe he doesn’t give a frig about oscars when all is said and done. Course he wants one, but I 100% believe in his priority in telling this marvellous and tragic man’s story.

    • Jen says:

      What does his spirit look like exactly?

      • Nic says:

        Erm, taking the p*ss is necessary, is it?

        I’m obviously saying it doesn’t really capture his fun and energy. Didn’t think it needed spelling out.

    • MissMary says:

      He always comes off as very passionate about getting Turing’s story told to a wider audience and I think that is what is going to be more important for him in the long run (though I am likely just projecting lol).

    • anon says:

      OK-Im going to take my life in my hands, but where was the SGF to help him out? She must know by now that he’s a spas! LOL

  8. Hello Kitty says:

    I’m not feeling the Time Out London cover. Too serial killer for me.

  9. betsy says:

    Quote from the Time Out article:
    “Have you told Harvey Weinstein?
    Oh yeah, we’ve had a few conversations, but it doesn’t seem to have registered. I still get calls about flying to America to do half an hour on a talk show. Harvey and I are friends because we want the same thing. He’s so smart, he’s brilliant. But the most important thing is that people see the film. The minute there’s a buzz about any film, the word “hype” arises and it pours water all over the fame. I just want people to see it and judge for themselves”
    —–

    You’re forgetting one thing. Benedict is working on The Hollow Crown and wouldn’t compromise that project for campaigning. At the end of the Time Out article he mentions that he won’t have time to campaign and that Weinstein hasn’t understood that yet. Benedict takes his work committments seriously and while I;m sure he’ll do what he can to promote The Imitation Game he won’t whore himself out to get that oscar. Colin Firth had to virtually commit 8 months to ensure he got it for The King’s Speech.He went to every event going. Benedict won’t do that for Weinstein and they may end up falling out. Sherlock will film in January so again there will be no chance of him doing much press before the oscars.

    • MissMary says:

      I’m not throwing shade on his career or wishing him ill, but I think this sort of thing is what will keep him from mega-fame. And I don’t mean that in a bad way, just a matter-of-fact way. He won’t compromise other projects to shill for one, and he won’t bend over for the “power players” as much as some other actors will. I think he’s building a solid, respectabe career and reputation though and will be around a long time, but I don’t think Weinstein will be thrilled if “his star” for TIG isn’t on every talk show and random appearance he can wrangle between now and Oscar time.

      • HBIC says:

        Mega fame isn’t dependent on how many a$$es you kiss in Hollywood… it’s more about public interest + talent + likability. DiCaprio barely gives interviews and I think only plays the game every now and then, and look how famous he is!

        If anything, not bending over backwards to the power players and selling out to the machine will probably keep him SANE. And it will help him to keep a level head on his shoulders and keep his fame about his talent and his work, and not his celebrity.

        Not to mention… when you start winning awards in Hollywood and garner huge public interest (did you forget about his crazy internet fanbase?)… you are well on your way to mega stardom. I would argue that he’s pretty much knocking on the door of it at this point in time.

        PS – Angelina and Brad are mega famous not necessarily for their careers… but for their relationship. Yeah, they were both famous before, but they really became famous after Mr. and Mrs. Smith and the whole scandal surrounding that movie.

      • Lindy79 says:

        Leo’s never gotten the Oscar though..and you know he wants it.

        http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201423/rs_245x133-140303100200-tumblr_n1v21b3sio1rtaulvo1_250.gif

        and to be fair he’s been making Hollywood movies a bit longer than Benedict has, he did shill for Titanic (but even since then the PR game has moved on and is a lot more demanding) and that allowed him to move on and up. Benedict hasn’t had that role yet that has made him a household name everywhere. He’s a great body of work behind him and I’m sure will have for years to come but non internet fame-wise, he ain’t there yet.

      • HBIC says:

        @Lindy79
        Not playing the PR game has kept Leo from an Oscar, not mega fame. Like I said before, you don’t need to kiss butts out there for stardom necessarily. But for awards? Different story.

        Benedict isn’t a household name in America… but he is everywhere else for the most part.

        It’s going to happen… it’s only a matter of time.

      • sigh((s)) says:

        I think he’s playing the game, I just think he’s playing it in a different way. If you look at all the things he’s done the past 6 months or so, it’s had a more international appeal/marketability. F1, charity functions, Hay. It’s not a basic US talk show circuit. I think he knows his audience, and knows that will be where his biggest growth will be in the future.
        Just my 2 cents.

      • Lindy79 says:

        I agree to a point. Its not about kissing butts though, not sure where that came from, it’s about PR and getting your name out there.
        There’s no denying his name is much wider recognised than it was but me personally I feel he is just on the cusp, a little on the outside still and this could push him into more general wider attention.
        We see him at premieres and conventions where the audience there is fully aware of who he is and are there to see him, the challenge is to get the ones who don’t go on the internet/wouldn’t go to conventions etc. and get them to know who he is and what he’s in.

        He should be able to walk a red carpet with the likes of Leo and Clooney etc and be close to the same level. A few people working the press line commented after the Oscars that they didn’t know who he was. It then ties in with him getting offered more roles (and more varied ones I hope, I’d love to see him in a dark comedy).

        FWIW I don’t *want* to see him performing like a monkey on crack on every talk show/interview going, or doing the pre-Oscar PR coffee runs. Desperation is not an attractive quality.

      • Intro Outro says:

        *butts in* I don’t think it really makes much sense to compare careers of successful actors who start shooting when they’re still children/teenagers and actors who only get to the blue screen after receiving their corresponding college degree. The clout is so very different imo *butts out*

        @sigh((s)): I agree. I’ve already said on one of previous threads that each actor plays his game differently, and each game is crafted to suit said actor’s persona.

      • MissMary says:

        Like I said above, I think he’s building a solid and respectable career and reputation. That’ll take him farther than flash and glitz in the long run, whether it’s to big awards or just being a long-term presence in the industry with consistently good to great roles and remarkable performances.

    • Lindy79 says:

      How long with Sherlock filming take though realistically, given that it’s only a one off special rather than 3 episodes?

      I can see him being a bit more free in Dec (once HC wraps) and January than people think, HC has started filming already, so even if that takes 2 months, he’ll be free end of November/start of December? That gives him December and then whatever time in Jan he’s not filming Sherlock (given it’s not showing until Christmas, they could move it slightly although I know he has Hamlet). That’s when the true bulk of the campaigning really ramps up,awards season starts in early Jan. Plus he’s going to have to do all the premieres for it in November, he wont get out of that, it will have been in his contract and there will be interviews tied in with that, maybe not King Speech level.
      Weinstein is clever, he’ll figure put ways for him to stay in public eye, even if he doesn’t get 100% the level he wants.

      • An says:

        Lindy79-Sherlock takes around six weeks for one episode.

        Hollow Crown is slated for six months of filming but I do not know how much he’s doing. I do recall hearing this run would be from September to mid-January. If that’s accurate, he’s rather tied up through February or possibly March.

        I doubt we’ll see that much more than typical promo from him, as he won’t risk UK projects for a US award. Seems to know where his bread is buttered.

      • Lindy79 says:

        Wow, it didn’t feel like they were filming Sherlock in 2013 for 4 and a half months!

        Whatever your feeling on them, the Oscar isn’t just a “US award”, come on! That’s not me disagreeing with you on how he wouldn’t sacrifice another project for it.
        There’s a chance he could win with very little campaigning…it could happen

        *pig goes flying past*

      • Mila says:

        The thing with an Academy award nom/win is that it gives more visibility and interest to an actor (at least for a while). An actor can also demand more pay because of it. I know he doesn’t necessarily need an Oscar nom/win to get the attention of top producers/directors because he IS talented but after the flop that was TFE (not his fault, mind you) it would be a great “comeback” for him to get major noms/wins for TIG. It’ll also cement his status as a leading man in film. I bet he knows that getting that nom/win will open more doors for him. We know he wants to work, work, work. And sucking up to Harvey? I’m sure his agents will try to please Harvey as much as possible and will convince Cumby to be compliant.

        I know Keira doesn’t play the awards game too so it’s going to be difficult for Harvey especially after sacking his longtime awards consultant. But I wish KK and BC promote the shit out of TIG, even if not for their awards prospects but for Turing to get the attention/recognition he deserves.

  10. MissMary says:

    I’m digging the scruff, ngl. I think what makes the cover seem a bit “off” though is the lighting/coloring touch ups done to it–it skirts the edge of ‘is that a real pic or a manip?’, at least in my mind. But he still looks good.

  11. Intro Outro says:

    Loving the picture!! Ben looks simultaneously like himself – and different. Interesting effect. And the eyes are gorgeous, as usual.

    As for the Oscar game – imo it’s just too early to draw conclusions on whether or not he’ll be playing the Weinstein game full on. ATM he’s doing everything right.

  12. FingerBinger says:

    He looks like a librarian.

  13. kri says:

    That mag line is supposed to read “Eyes Between Kri’s Thighs” dammit!! These so-called editors are so stewpid. Ahem, don’t trouble yourselves-I am showing myself out.

  14. jumbotron says:

    I’m already sick of him and Oscar season hasn’t even started!

  15. maria says:

    300 comments on the maybe gf story yesterday, and 37 on this one. I wonder how many comments a story about him and Lindsay Lohan would generate?

  16. Tippet says:

    Yes, would hit, oh my would I EVER. He looks great. He looks like Iago. I wish he’d play Iago instead of Hamlet; he’d be perfect.

  17. From North of Boston says:

    Hot!

    Though I do wish they had left all his birthmarks in, instead of photoshopping

    • Grace says:

      All magazine covers are photoshopped. Some photoshopped beyond recognition. At least this one looks like him.

  18. Anony says:

    Love him, he looks fab in these pics. Can’t wait for the movie to come out

  19. icerose says:

    I find his lack of interest in the Oscars a little more believable than his comments re comparing films in competition but I still think he is being a bit disingenuous .He got a lot of prestige and publicity through attending the Oscars last year and to my mind if you really were not bothered you would not attend even if asked to give an award.
    Its not just films that are viewed competitively re awards it is theatre and TV and he has never come out and complained about the process before unlike some actors who are more vocal.
    I do think he is playing a cagey game of giving the impression he not really bothered whilst knowing Harvey will be pulling all the stops out. The buzz for IG has been successful but he still goes on about Turing needing more recognition and it feels a little forced at the moment. He could just say -it would be nice if a do get a nomination but it is in the lap of the gods or something similar and I would have more respect for him.
    I do really like the Timeout picture although his eyes seem a little bluer than usual but that might be because I do not spend a lot of time looking at his pictures. The one below is nice as well.

    • jammypants says:

      I think his filming obligations would keep him away from most of the press circuit, just by scheduling alone.

  20. Isadora says:

    Wow.. I think the pics in the completely black tux with a bit of scruff and the watch chain thingie is the best he has EVER looked. Seriously. Nice hair, bespoke suit, great colour, no ill-fitting glasses = keep that stylist, Ben! At all times, please.

    As for TIG – I’m rather curious how all this Oscar talk will play out. There was always a huge amount of promo going on but I’m not sure if talking about all the Oscar chances before the film is even out will hurt it in the end. Because while the Academy was super predictive in the last years, I’m not sure they want to be seen as that. So given the situation I think he’s saying all the right things in interviews.

    And Alan Turing’s story IS relatively unknown to the masses. We here might by now know all about it, the Brits might now a lot about it after the Queen granted him the Royal Pardon, but as for the rest… I’m pretty sure most of my friends don’t really know who he is. But a lot of them probably also don’t know who Benedict Cumberbatch is. I still think he’ll be doing fine with his career and putting his UK work before any possible Oscar chances is a wise step, imho.

    • icerose says:

      The play Breaking the Code won an acting prize for Derek Jacobi on Broadway so the American arts world has some familiarity with him. Jacobi was also nominated for a Bafta as well so the current generation apart he is reasonably well known in the UK. Turing was also given an OBE but like others at Bletchley he was not allowed to say what for,
      In the comments under the Telegraph Review (I think) there were some interesting posts from people who actually worked at Bletchley. One person pointed out that although Turing was the key to the mathematical formula it was an engineer who actually designed the machine which enabled the formula to be used to decode the messages and there was a little bit of a feeling that he was being promoted at the expense of others who worked there.
      Another man said there has been issues about Turing hitting on all the young men which had irritated people which I have to say if true was inappropriate whatever your sexual persuasion. I think there is a scene in the play that references this in a very very very vague way.
      My feeling is that if Benny goes on about “recognising ” Turing to much there may be a backlash. Eddie Redmayne seems to be able to put over his admiration for Hawking overstating it and at times it just feels a bit like the “recognitionn”is more about the film promotion than Turing. Which is not to say that Benedict does not admire Turing just that he is a tad OTT,
      The other interesting thing I read is that someone who saw the preview and the TIFF viewing said they have added in extra gay references partly because not everyone could understand what the end was about.
      The interview above took place over the phone before TIFF I think and I am not sure about the competing films one and it would be interesting to know the sequence of his reasoning on the Oscar issue.
      I also curious as to whether he will get a Bafta nomination (which take place before the Oscars) because I think he is more likely to get a run for his money from Spall in the UK who is my current favourite based purely on feed back and adverts, I would also like to see Paddy Considine and Andrew Scott get get a Bafta nominated for Pride, It has not got the international Oscar appeal of IG but it is witty, poignant and brilliantly acted and puts a significant spotlight on changes in attitude which had an impact on the gay/lesbian movement.

      • blended says:

        it’s possible they may have edited it to include more references to the fact turing was gay, but the movie i saw at TIFF makes it quite obvious about his sexuality. ****(possible spoiler ahead)**** i can however see some criticism that the movie isn’t ‘gay enough’, in that there are no explicit sex scenes. but the central tenet of this man being persecuted for his sexuality is boldly stated.

        the movie is also very funny, and has many laugh-out-loud moments.

      • Maggie says:

        @ Icerose
        “”””My feeling is that if Benny goes on about “recognising ” Turing to much there may be a backlash. Eddie Redmayne seems to be able to put over his admiration for Hawking overstating it and at times it just feels a bit like the “recognitionn”is more about the film promotion than Turing. Which is not to say that Benedict does not admire Turing just that he is a tad OTT,””””””

        I don’t really understand what you are saying here. Do you think Benedict should tone down how he feels about Turing? He always gets inside the heads of his characters and feels a great affinity for them. I see nothing that is not genuine and nothing that is OTT. Are you also saying that Eddie is doing a better job of expressing his admiration of Hawking? That seems a rather silly thing to compare, different actors and different subjects.

        The film was based on a well regarded, extremely well reviewed and well researched book by Andrew Hodges and the screen play was written by a “geek” who has been obsessed with Turing “forever”. I think basing some of your objections to it’s content on two anonymous people in a comments section of an online newspaper is a bit much. Especially when you contrast it to the positive reviews and comments from those who have seen the film.

        I haven’t seen the film yet so I am making no judgments on it’s quality but neither have you seen the film, yet you seem to put it down at every opportunity, however politely and subtly.

      • icerose says:

        @Maggie the Telegraph is one of the UK’s more respected daily papers and these comments had a genuine feel for me. They gave there names and one of them had a military background.
        The play Breaking the Code received numerous rewards and it did feel closer to the English life style at the time whereas in the adverts for the film looks as if they have glamourized the characters a bit something that the Telegraph review agreed with. As far as I can see the storyline is similar but the play goes into more about his persecution. Some reviews have said that the gay/persecution element feels like it was tagged onto the end.The play/TV FILM seems to have been well researched as well but the pacing is slower and it is less dramatic
        I think Eddie has been less voracious in his PR for the Hawking’s bio.
        I have no problems with Benny saying he admires Turing it is more about his constant statements that Turing should have more recognition as if he is on some kind of crusade which begins to feel repetitive and unnecessary.
        @Intro Outro You have done my homework for me and yes I know that some people felt the focus should have been primarily on the code breaking but for my part I find the whole picture of his life more interesting .And I agree that those who have criticised the film on gay issues have not been arguing for gay sex scenes and doing so really brings the discussion down to a different level , There were no gay sex scenes or even gay kisses in the play but it put across what he went through in the year following his arrest very clearly with out over dramatizing it.

        @Maggie saying that the issues have ben addressed by providing an allowance for creative flair does not give the impression that the bio is true to life .But there are always creative debate about adding in dramatic scenes to make it more palatable for a wider audience or keeping it true to life.The play also indicates that whether he consummated his earlier relationship is unclear but it does not include that whole scene where there are suggestions of marriage between him and Keera’s character in the play they are just good friends. They play also includes a scene in which he is asked to tone down his homosexual behaviour at work which I found interesting because it left a lot of wiggle room for discussion.
        Interesting comments re school kids seeing it -I went to see Russell Tovey in a very explicit play about a gay footballer and their was a row of school boys in their uniforms sitting across from me. My daughter did a project on the history of homosexual legislation at age 14 and both my kids hung out with gay and straight kids. It seems to me the truth within the film is more important than keeping it cleaning it up for ratings.
        I agree the reviews have been mainly very good with 4/5 star ratings so not saying it is a bad film just pointing out some of the issues I have around it that might not make me rush out to see it in the cinema but wait until it appears on TV or download. I suspect that he will at least get an Oscar nomination but the Bafta outcome is more intriguing for me as those voters will be more familiar with the Turing story.

  21. Intro Outro says:

    @blended: re: criticism that there are no explicit gay scenes: I am sorry but that’s not what I read in the articles that were critical of how Turing’s gayness was depicted. I think Indiewire ran a very good article on this topic here http://blogs.indiewire.com/bent/the-problem-with-the-imitation-game-20140915 They didn’t claim that the film had to have explicit sex scenes. I think that, as it often happens with fans in many fandoms, in this case more fervent Cumberbatch fans simply took the critics’ complaint [Turing’s gayness is of central importance to his personality and his tragedy but it wasn’t consummated enough] and devalued it by taking it to the ridiculous extreme [stupid critics aren’t happy that there are no explicit sex scenes].

    @Maggie: just FYI, Hodges actually criticised the screenplay quite a bit http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/06/24/alan-turings-biographer-criticises-upcoming-biopic-for-downplaying-gay-identity/ I don’t know what his reaction to the finished product was though.

    Personally, I am not going to draw any conclusions before I see the film, and in any case and under any circumstances I hope as many people as possible will watch it – particularly in more traditional-minded countries. I think it’s the case when, even if the story has inaccuracies, it is worthy of being spread.

    • Maggie says:

      The script for TIG went through many rewrites and Hodges did criticise it, I agree :

      “””A biographer for Alan Turing has criticised an upcoming film about the gay codebreaker for exaggerating his love affair with a woman.””” as well as saying Keira was too glamorous for the part but that was a creative decision and doesn’t alter any factual material.

      I think those who have seen the completed film agree that there is no love affair or anything physical between Joan and Alan.

      I think most of his criticisms have been addressed but remember it is a film and there will be some “”creative liberties””” taken, the producer, Teddy Schwarzman, said.
      I also do not know what Hodges reaction to the finished film was. I do know that Turing’s family saw a special screening and were very happy with the finished film.

      “””Turing’s gayness is of central importance to his personality and his tragedy but it wasn’t consummated enough””””

      Again I haven’t seen the film but as far as I have read and heard Turing did not have any significant relationships whilst at Bletchley, it was a “sexual desert”, and it was only a brief liaison with a rent boy, after the war, that lead to him being prosecuted. So there wasn’t much to consummate. As Blended said it seemed that his sexual orientation was “boldly stated throughout”. His relationship with the love of his life was never physical.

      I would ask that people read the indiewire link as there are a few things that are problematic, such as it has never been established that Christopher returned his feelings, knew about his feelings or was even gay. Other critics have not had the same problem with the depiction of Turing’s gayness. The producers and all those involved also wanted it have a rating that did not preclude it’s use in schools.

      I’m waffling on and I haven’t even seen the film but I have read many reviews, articles and watched interviews and have formed some ideas about the film and it’s veracity.

      I will leave it there until I have seen the film but unfortunately that is a long way away for me, on the other side of the world. Damn it!

      • Intro Outro says:

        I agree with you, Maggie. However, I think that Indiewire’s critic’s complaint that that homosexual relationship wasn’t consummated in the film stemmed from his idea that, since Turing’s gayness was the primary source of his disgusting prosecution and his eventual death, it just *had* to be emphasised in a more obvious way. According to him, it would’ve made the message more poignant. Plus he made some very interesting points about the ending of the film.

        I will have to watch the film to form my own opinion, I just wanted to point out that the critics – at least those I have read – weren’t crudely demanding for more explicit sex scenes, but were making a certain point related to the film’s message.

        And yes, of course we’re doing a very thankless job of speculating on a film we’re yet to see lol. But I really am eager to watch it, too!

    • icerose says:

      @Maggie I thought there had been some criticisms from the family but nit sure where I read that so perhaps as you say they were happier with the finished product.

      • Maggie says:

        Oh there were loads of criticisms from some nutter who calls herself Julia Turing but has no affiliations with the family and it is not even her real name. Apparently she stole and still retains some private papers of Turing’s. She is obsessed with Alan Turing. You might have seen some of her comments in online publications and reviews.

        She was the woman who made the fuss at Pink News and they ran with her story without ever checking on her credentials. Black Bear Productions had to do a lot of texting and emailing to get the message across that her perception of the script was wrong.

      • MissMary says:

        @Maggie: Oh my word… I had no idea that was going on… That’s, for some reason, more creepy to me than someone doing that to a live person. I mean, it’s never good, but it seems just extra horrid when it’s done to someone who has died and can’t defend themselves.

  22. blended says:

    intro outro, just reporting what i heard from talking to journos and movie-watchers at TIFF, like i do every year. take it or leave it.