Oh, such joy. So many Benedict Cumberbatch stories! Let’s begin with the biggest: The Daily Mail’s gossip “Girl About Town” claimed this weekend that Bendy and Sophie Hunter are going to be married… soon. Very soon. Like, in February. Sources tell the Mail that Sophie and Bendy plan on marrying just before the Oscars, which are February 22. So… he’ll marry Sophie at the BAFTAs? Huh.
Next story… back in May-June of last year, many Cumberbitches had the sudden realization that Benedict might actually have a girlfriend for real. At the time, he had been seen in Paris with a mystery brunette – who turned out to be Sophie Hunter – and he had been seen in Monaco with a not-so mysterious blonde, who turned out to be Lady Kinvara Balfour. Lady Kinvara is the blonde (in the floral dress, because he has a type) in the photos at the end of the post. Many of us actually thought Lady Kinvara was the better bet for his mystery girlfriend. And hell, maybe he was seeing her at the same time. And since he impregnated Sophie Hunter, Lady Kinvara isn’t holding a grudge.
WITH both Eddie Redmayne and Benedict Cumberbatch garnering their first Oscar nominations yesterday for Best Actor, this year’s Academy Awards are sure to agonise toffs more than the Oxford and Cambridge boat race.
Old Etonian Eddie, 33, who played rugby with Prince William at his £34,434-a-year alma mater, currently has the edge after picking up a Golden Globe last Sunday for his portrayal of physicist Stephen Hawking in The Theory of Everything. Cumberbatch, a former pupil at Harrow, where fees are £34,590, has been nominated for his role as Bletchley Park code-breaker Alan Turing in The Imitation Game.
Already calling the winner, however, is the Duke of Norfolk’s niece, Lady Kinvara Balfour.
‘Eddie Redmayne’s portrayal of Hawking, both physical and verbal, is amazing,’ says Kinvara, 38. ‘My loyalties lie with Benedict for the Oscar but I wish they could both win.’
Last year there were rumours that Benedict, 38, and Lady Kinvara were an item after being spotted together at the Monaco Grand Prix, just weeks before he publicly stepped out with his now-pregnant fiancée Sophie Hunter.
That’s interesting. Of course, it’s possible that Kinvara and Bendy are still friendly. It’s possible they were never dating in the first place. It’s also possible that Sophie Hunter maneuvered herself into the #1 Girlfriend position rather quickly and effectively by getting knocked up, eh?
Here’s another interesting Bendy story, from last year’s Oscars. If you remember correctly, Bendy was sitting in the 12 Years a Slave section, with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. Apparently, he was also seated close to Bruce Dern (who was nominated) and Bruce’s date that night, his daughter Laura Dern. Laura Dern said Bendy was extraordinarily sweet to her father at the Oscars:
“It was beautiful, oh my God!” Dern exclaims, lighting up at the memory. “The greatest experience you can have with your father is to have him at an awards (ceremony). Everybody’s in their outfits, everybody’s nervous … And he’s sitting there going, ‘Kid! Can you believe it? I’m 77 years old, I’m doing what I love and they invited me to their dinner party’. I said, ‘Isn’t that great dad?’ He said, ‘Now go get me a Coke!’
“I’m like, ‘It’s the middle of the Academy Awards! You can’t leave!’ He goes, ‘You can do it, just leave and go get a Coke’. ‘I’m not leaving dad.’ Benedict Cumberbatch happened to be sitting next to me — I don’t know him at all — and he was like (adopts super-polite English accent), ‘Oh does your father need a Coke? I’ll get him a Coke …’ So Benedict Cumberbatch went and got him a Coca-Cola, which I thought was so adorable. That Sherlock!”
That is really nice. Was Laura Dern really sitting that close to Angelina Jolie and I didn’t notice? Huh. Because I remember it clearly – on Brad was on Angelina’s right and Bendy was on her left. Was Dern on Bendy’s other side? And clearly, those people in the audience who are not nominated have an obligation to fetch refreshments for the nominees. I expect Sophie will have to fetch a soda for Bendy this year.
Photos courtesy of Getty, WENN.
*sound of a shotgun going off*
Lol
I wonder what her dress for this shot gun wedding will look like?
It’ll have pockets and smugness, you betcha
white flowers on a white dress-what else
The something blue will be a flower print along the skirt, who are we kidding?
It’ll have shotguns
I bet on the pockets too but I have to say I do love me some pockets…
LOL @ shotguns
Oh, let him get married and then divorced… I’m beginning to think they’re perfect for each other… smug and posh.. Oh rumours is that she used to say that he looked weird, but the fame made him less weird… Thoughts on that?
My gut says that the rumor’s yet another example of people trying to portray her as this famehussy who only went after Cumberbatch because of his fame/funds. Wasn’t there a similar rumor about Colleen Rooney?
The other statements in the Girl About Town article: St. Giles is the favorite spot because it is close to her mother’s house.
What does that tell you about the “source” of the information and the intent of the spill?
I wouldn’t be surprised if there was truth to that rumour, she looks smug in almost every picture they’ve taken together.
What if that’s just her resting bitchface? 😛
LOL @jammypants
no kidding. Bitchface is a total bitch. I always have to hear ppl asking if everything is OK just because I relaxed for 5min and was again with my resting (apparently bitchy) face.
I refuse to believe he’d be a) this stupid and b) this blatantly Oscar driven.
Oh and ‘girl about town’ who’s conveniently had quite a lot to say about Cumberbatch of late, also reported that Eddie’s marriage is under strain today. Hmmmm. Deep into phase WTF of Oscar campaigning..
Can you provide a link to the girl about town post? Is it the girl about town london blog?
Girl you need a bath of reality.
He is just marrying before the baby is born. Just sensible thing to do.
You don’t need to be married just because one of you is going to have a baby. Its traditional and old fashioned (not entirely shocking then that Cumberbatch would want to do it that way), but it’s not sensible.
Your Tardis is parked around the corner, Luna. 1907 has been looking for you.
I sure as hell wouldn’t want to have anyone’s baby without being married to them. Not old fashioned at all
He has plenty of time to marry her before the baby comes, why is supposedly planning to marry her right before Oscar voting closes on the 17th??!!!! Reeks of desperation.
From the guy who brought you:
‘I’m no longer in a hurry to get married. I would like to first get to know the partner and build a trusting relationship before making the commitment.’
and “I’ve been broody since I was 12, but I can’t just get anyone pregnant. It has got to be the right person.”
If she’s the right person and he’s so happy he needs to try and look less meh.
He also said in October: “when it is right is right”.
People change their way of thinking. Life is dynamic not static.
Except for people who live on the Internet.
And he has no need to please you.
Since when has anyone said he’s under obligation to ‘please them’? Are you familiar with celebrity gossip sites?
And that Big Issue interview was painfully slanted for PR, as was the Elle one. Do people really believe everything he says is natural and spontaneous?
Its a gossip site, he’s made his relationship public so we’re discussing it. Outside of this site I honestly couldn’t care less. Regarding living on the internet, you might want to have a word with the folks who run Cumberbatch blogs and tumblrs and post endless pictures of him on instagram both positive and negative, or do you only have an issue with the ones who are negative?
Oh and the ones who turned up at his PR’s office, it may have been nice but it crossed a line and the ones who show up at Setlock, which Martin reiterated in the Independent this weekend that they all hate.
Every interview during (and right before) an Oscar campaign has to be taken with bushels of salt, when the interviewee is talking about his/her personal life
Luna’s just one of the stans that has difficulty seeing the wtf-ery of this whole weird relationship. Her best defense is to insult those who think differently, but offers no intelligent discussion. She doesn’t have any more knowledge of what’s really going on than we do, but for some reason thinks she does. Based on the immaturity of her responses, I think she’s pretty young, which would help explain her strong reactions to our comments.
It’s realy quite amusing when posters get offended at what’s written on a GOSSIP site.
And he said just a couple of weeks ago that wedding was not a priority. We can all pick and choose our favorites.
And [someone please fill in recent quote here about him wanting a dog but wouldn’t have the time to take care of it]
@Claire: It was that interview that ran in the Phillippine Inquirer:
“I have always loved animals,” he remarked. “I have always wanted a dog but, in all seriousness, it would be very cruel on a dog right now to be in my possession because I wouldn’t be in its presence and I feel that I can’t properly look after it.”
Just commented in the other thread. Think engagement announcement came when Sophie was 12 weeks (time for paternity test). Think that there will be a wedding – Ben will not allow his child to be a bastard. He’s too Tietjens for that. And the name Cumberbatch will open more doors than the name Hunter. Let’s see if it lasts more than 963 days. Getting my popcorn –
Hopefully not a double barreled name… jeez zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Yeah, heaven forbid anyone decides on a double barreled name. I might as well go out and just change mine, since clearly other people’s names affect your life so much. Wouldn’t want to be a bother.
They don’t have to be married to have the father’s name.
Agreed. Now a days, a father can willingly give his child his name, he does not need to be married to the mother.
Says a lot for their relationship if a paternity test was needed.
Oh, now one person creates a dirty gossip and another spreads it like it is true.
I very much doubt there was a paterntity test and I also very much doubt she was 12 weeks at the beggining of November.
Anon,
If you read what people are saying., there’s ‘think’ and ‘if’ used. So people are taking and discussing. It’s gossip but here’s nothing ‘dirty’ about it. If he wants to put his life out there for media attention, people are going to talk about it.
> If you read what people are saying., there’s ‘think’ and ‘if’ used.
I can read, thank you very much.
Where is “if” and ” think” in this sentence ?
“Says a lot for their relationship if a paternity test was needed. ”
You people are just sad.
Oh dear.
I beg to differ on the reading thing ..Alice’s message that you just quoted yourself says “IF” and original anon says “THINK”
Bastard is such an awful word.
It is very telling of the writers ideas.
For what it’s worth I may not have a clue what is up with Cumbers, I agree.
Its the dictionary definition but I really think it needs to be struck off.
Umm, what’s a ‘bastard’?
It’s a derogatory term for child born out of wedlock.
Yeah, I was being facetious with my question, I just don’t get the legitimacy of its use. I mean, why do people use it, they love being anachronistic or just nasty?
It’s a term that most people don’t use anymore.
Maybe people who watch Game of Thrones way too much
You don’t know nothing Anny/Jon Snow
I happen to be both a bastard and a b!tch….LOL
Oh and they have PROOF she was twelve weeks in early November? That’s when a woman starts to show. And she just started showing this month. So yeah. There goes that theory. Then again you must be “If It Is Written On The Internet It Must Be True” School.
On a different note I used to like this blog for the info you had on BC. Since you’ve become a hate blog towards Sophie and BC I will never read it again. Oh and before I end just an FYI. Wanda Ventham and Tim Carlton, Ben’s folks, had a “shotgun” wedding. She was three months gone with him when they got married. So back off and leave them alone
But Wanda and Tim had been together for several years before they got married, so what gives?
No one i know showed at 12 weeks on a first pregnancy. That’s when most people tell friends relatives as its considered a safety milestone for pregnancy and you wouldn’t have known. They all started to show mid/ late into 4th month with a small bump. There was signs of a bump in the leather dress but were dismissed because there was no confirmation plus she was seen holding wine (probably for him) at the ESAs that and he walked in front of her downstairs but showed no care dor her (seriously its surprising now its confirmed she is expecting..anyone i know pregnant would have been holding on going down a spiral stairs in a long dress and heels and he doesnt even look back) so most people felt that she wasn’t. Her dresses were fairly loose and drop waist so there could have been a small bump.
Also Wanda and Tim were publicly together, no pretending they weren’t and then whoops were pregnant/engaged. She just didn’t want to get married again as she’d had a very negative first marriage. Its not the same thing.
However i don’t like the trapped stuff and whatever rumours are flying about. I just wish they’d acted less like tits when they were dating and my wtfery is aimed at him not her.
How do you know when she started to show? You’ve only seen her on red carpets.
And Wanda and Tim we’re seeing each other for ages. The reason she waited for marriage was due to the hassle of her divorce which put her off for a while. Completely different situations.
She said she will never read this site again so why entertain her?
I think when people (or at least I) say “trapped”, I mean that she might have been a little purposely relaxed with the birth control and he was dumb enough not to wrap it up. The onus is on both, imo.
Wanda and Tim weren’t needing to win an Oscar either. If this wedding happens before the Oscars, I call PR stunt
If your name is indicative of what’s between your legs can I just say how refreshing it is a bloke is echoing the sentiment of the women here? Maybe that’ll shut up the people deriding our observations as hysteria.
@”anon”I am the original anon who posted the comment. My use of the word “bastard” was in the context of Ben’s fascination with Christopher Tietjens and how he thought. And yes-I do believe she was 12 weeks when the engagement notice went in. We will all know for sure when the baby arrives. I’m going for late April. And “anon”- change your name. You’re making me look bad.
Oh how I do love some good British gossip!
feel pukish
Maybe you’re also pregnant with an otter-baby? You should get that checked out 😉
‘It’s also possible that Sophie Hunter maneuvered herself into the #1 Girlfriend position rather quickly and effectively by getting knocked up, eh?”
Now, THAT is the most plausible statement in the whole article. And I’m sure his fame, and let’s not forget, his money, have icreSed his attractiveness for Ms. Hunter.
Agree with Kat. He can’t be that stupid.
As if he needs more attractiveness…
Move on. He is going to marry SH, not you.
Dear god.
Don’t feed the trolls…..
But…but………..I was going to reuse by dress from my actual wedding to a real life bloke??
The world upside down.
The trolls rule Cumberbatch’s threads here.
Normal people are the ones opposing to this insanity.
Tee hee. Love this Lady K tweet from Jan. 8th (day after official preggo announcement):
“Life is full of interesting twists & turns. The only constant? Kind & brilliant friends. Here’s to friendship in 2015…”
I’ll leave that there 😉
Totally believe they were dating in early 2014.
And she’s handling things with class.
Completely agree with you, Miss Melissa. And I never thought she was oh-so magnificent, but my hats off to her for all of the class she’s exhibiting. Maybe it was no big deal for her. But, if they were dating and she really developed feelings for him? I can’t even imagine what I would feel with all of this muck. Dodged a bullet. I hope someone extraordinary is waiting for her. And I hope BC stops feeling sorry for himself long enough to see how he’s affected other people. Not his fans. People in his life.
If that is his child he is already tied to her forever anyway. Already screwed the pooch on this one mind as well go for the ten yards so to speak.
I fail to understand the reasoning that says if you are miserable about having a child with someone you might as well compound the misery by marrying them. The inevitable divorce will just bring more misery.
If your response is to me I was being sarcastic
Yep, I always find it a little weird when guys will have a child with someone but then refuse to marry them (in the case where the woman wants to get married I mean, I have 2 friends in that situation. However having a child with someone is a WAY bigger commitment if you ask me, being married is not the be all and end all and it’s not 1950.
If they just had the kid then got married later in the year or next year it would all look a lot less “Marrying because she got pregnant and I’m too proper and pompous to have a child before marriage”, it all just looks so rushed and reactionary.
I agree that all of this looks reactionary. The mature thing to do is to give the adults time to ground themselves. Get used to partnering together as parents, while you try to grow your own relationship and figure yourselves out. Also, his career-it is not slowing down. And although I suspect there will be nannies, nannies don’t take pressure away.
They both strike me as immature. That won’t make any of this easier.
Fair enough Luna, that’s your opinion.
Its a pity we can’t have a normal adult discussion without name calling but hey-ho, yes we are the immature ones.
Lindy,
Don’t even try. The unhinged insults has MaryLou written all over it.
Every man I know who got married whilst the woman was pregnant got talked into by the woman. They had a deer in headlights reaction and most were not ready fro marriage or baby(nor did they want it). This is why I think he doesn’t generally want to be married right at this moment, but it is reactionary.
Sorry Nayru. So many people say that for real that I wonder what century they’re living in.
Guys, you know what the weekend in-between the BAFTAs and the Oscars is, right? Please gossip fairy, let it be that Saturday. Let it be that over the top. Personally, I think he is this stupid. And I agree with a post up-thread that these two deserve each other. And from a really cynical perspective, it is the perfect ending to his Oscar campaign. Engagement announced via The Times. Pregnancy exclusive to PageSix. Marriage details leaked to Girl About Town. To be fair, I am convinced the leaks are coming from the SH camp.
My hunch is that Lady K feels sorry for him at this point, and still some friendship or soft spot there. Because I am convinced he was dating her until May.
Yes. The only way to profess true love is to be married on Valentine’s. Heh. I wouldn’t put it past these two.
LOL, I’m waiting for that People magazine spread now……
Yep, the Gal About Town piece specifies Valentine’s Day. No way they’re tying the knot in a cathedral like that though. Fun Fact: most people file for divorce the day after Valentine’s Day. Rumour has it a good percentage of couples married on Valentine’s divorce later (more than usual).
I always thought he was dating her (KB). I think maybe she fell in love and he knew (or his pr knew) that she wouldn’t be that easily gotten rid of after the Oscars.
Glad that theory time is back on the ‘bitchy
Yeah, I wish they were a real thing, she seems level headed and sweet. And he can’t wish for anyone more posh than her. Heck, she’s titled! If they were dating, I wonder what went wrong? Hollywood types would have eaten it up. Well, maybe that’s it. She might have become her own thing, and he’d be attached to her rather than vice versa. Especially in GB I’d bet (I’m American). Guess that might have been bad for his ego. Oh well. All speculation and in good fun.
How old are you?
I think she only looks good by comparison. Back when he took her to the Grand Prix, people were not so charitable.
@Sunflower: you are right….Lady K looked like a horrible posh dilettante until Ms. Comet showed up
Oh I don’t think she was that great. She seemed posh and snobby too, but at least they had some actual chemistry when they were pictured together. That one I would have at least believed and shrugged and said he has a type (and I’m not that surprised).
Maybe she was too social media happy? Or, as invadertak said, would have outshone him? She’s actually very similar in many ways to Sophie.
**sighs**: Did you see the subtle shade in the Fail re Kinvara being his rumored gf before he “stepped out” with his now pregnant fiance? Subtle shade is the best shade lol.
I fully believe Kinvara was “auditioned” for the showmance and it didn’t play in Peoria, as the saying goes, so they dumped SH on him and oops, he forgot to wrap that rascal before sampling her wares (or maybe she IS as manipulative as she seems and had her own accidental on purpose oops? We’ll never know for sure). Bada bing, bada boom. here hey are, him looking like he’s in the midst of a prostate exam from Edward Scissorhands each time he’s asked about her and her seeking out every camera in a two mile radius whenever she’s outside of her octopus tank.
Oh missmary how I’ve missed your shade.
If these two tie the knot vday i’ll laugh at how hard these two are trying and how desperate they are. Is this the real Benedict we loved? A fake twat?
Miss Mary we are on the same page. Same paragraph. Maybe even same sentence! Missed seeing you around.
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scarf girl, I’m with you on this one. He IS that stupid, reactionary and immature. I won’t be surprised at all if he seals his fate before the Oscars. He still has one or two more PR maneuvers before final votes are in. Revealing the sex of the baby and getting married would serve his campaign and maintain consistency with his PR strategy up to now.
Lady K and Olivia both dodged a bullet with this one.
O.M.G.
” I won’t be surprised at all if he seals his fate before the Oscars.” From which ancient century did you come?
A friend and I were discussing the Batch at lunch. I just never thought he would Hathaway or Portman his Oscar campaign. He has actually exceeded them. It isn’t that I will be on the divorce watch train after wedding-I don’t wish that-but I can’t help but side-eye the ambition and how he incorporated personal life into Oscar campaign.
Scarf girl, I don’t think he had much of a choice once Sophie told him she was up the duff. He sort of had to do the respectable thing, since it would not have remained a secret, even if they had split up and she wasn’t showing up to events with him. Knocking her up after a few months and proceeding with his Oscar campaign without her wasn’t a viable option. Can you image the PR disaster when the DM was tipped off about it and he looked like the douche who dumped his pregnant gf? He got engaged to save face more than anything, based on him looking like the bottom dropped out of his world two days later at the Hollywood Film Awards.
MtnRunner, I understand those points and agree. When I said it was his choice-this wasn’t an immaculate conception. Two people can use birth control. If you are a guy, you have as much of a responsibility as the woman to practice back up plans, as no method save abstinence is 100% effective. So when he chose to go on a hike without a sock, yeah, he had a choice in my opinion. And if it lead him to where it has lead him, I am not going to blame the Comet on her own. He is 38, not 18. He has been in at least two long term relationships which produced no offspring. Dude knew potential risks of actions. And yes, I know people say, oh he may have relied on her word, but that veers into misogyny for me. It happens; women intentionally get pregnant. But I am not convinced that happened here.
MtnRunner I will clarify one more thing. My view toward the Comet has softened due to some specific tumblr blogs (not SoGo), the parody Twitter account, and a lunch with an acquaintance who met the Comet a few years back. I do not soften my stance on her pretentiousness, or the fact she enjoys the limelight. But some of the claims about her have been way over the top on those blogs and it actually made me feel guilty for some of my earlier comments in previous threads and elsewhere. And that Twitter account isn’t parody at times. It is just vicious. I don’t like how this relationship has been presented in public, and no doubt it is the weirdest thing I have witnessed outside of a 1980’s mini-series. But I am trying to be less snarky.
I don’t think it’s misogynistic to point out that some women are lax with their contraception. It does happen and yes some women do engineer it deliberately. It’s just a fact that it happens. I’m not saying that’s what’s happened here, but I think generally there’s always a certain level of trust a man has to employ when sleeping with a woman on the pill. And if there’s not a risk of STDs, I doubt many men would choose to wear a condom too for the sake of extra protection.
woah woah woah don’t leave us hanging, what did they say about her?
Scarf girl, I heard that from you as well. My take on the conception is that at least one of them was careless with birth control. Ben had the most to lose in all this, so I would have expected him to glove his love every time, especially since he can’t trust that a) she’s protecting herself adequately or b) her birth control is going to work that particular time. I wouldn’t go as far to accuse her of entrapment, but I do think it’s noteworthy that she’s dated other rich guys with more fame than her but manages to get knocked up within 3 months of being sighted with Bendy. It may be a coincidence and may not mean anything, but just a little suspicious to me. Bottom line: I seriously doubt that two forms of birth control would fail during the 48 hour ovulation period. Someone got sloppy, intentional or no.
I don’t hate on Sophie either and have cringed at some of the hate that I’ve read on her. Even if she’s complicit in this whole mess, I wouldn’t want to have a child with Ben under her circumstances. Far from the ideal I had when my everloving huz and I planned and conceived our children and prepared for parenthood together. I assume that she wants this baby and will be the primary caregiver since Ben’s schedule is ridiculously busy. I’d much rather have my huz’s presence and love than his money, and at this point, I can’t help but think all Sophie gets is Ben’s money. If they marry, I hope they prove us skeptics wrong, as I wouldn’t wish a bad marriage on anyone, but I don’t see much that says it’s nothing more than a marriage of convenience and saving face.
Felice, I walked away feeling justified in feeling it was ok to think she is slightly pretentious, but also aware this is a person who did not invoke negative impressions in all of her interactions. But it isn’t like my acquaintance and I braided each other’s hair and talked about the BC/SH relationship theories. It was a business lunch focused on some volunteer projects in the arts community where I live. So, take it with a grain of salt.
But I also realized I have been way over invested in this. And probably went a wee bit overboard.
Kat, I agree with your statement and it is not misogynistic to call out women for not,practicing birth control. I do question why the brunt of criticism has fallen on the Comet. It isn’t like her special place is a Venus flytrap ensnaring men. And there have been character assassinations on some of these tumblr blogs, one in particular that have misogynistic overtones. It is one thing to not like the Comet, criticize her “art”, critique her public event fashion choices, gossip about BC’s behavior and the nature of their relationship and to be snarky. All of this is fair play. It is also fair play to question timing of the relationship, Oscar campaign, etc. These are things even the pros (see today’s post) are writing about. But these blogs are so over the top with how they have progressed-the pregnancy being faked, she is blackmailing BC into marriage even though pregnancy fake-these are claims that I feel venture into misogyny. Or borderline delusions. My comments were directed less at comments here, and more on those three specific tumblr accounts. Again, not SoGo.
And I have had to ask myself: when do I stop commenting about this topic? Because at some point, my giving two fs has to cease.
Hey scarfgirl,
Those blogs you mentioned are just too ludicrous for words.
I can’t believe some people believe the pure BS they talk. I don’t think anyone with any sense is looking twice at them.
MtnRunner and Kat: I am really sorry if my comments were taken wrong. Not going to write another long post, but offering up virtual martinis for both of you.
Oh SC,
You have nothing to apologise for. You’re one of the few nice and rational people on here.
And thanks for the martini.. 😉
*graciously accepts martini and gleefully sips*
Scarf girl, absolutely no reason to apologize. You and I are on a similar wavelength. My comment “I heard that from you as well” meant, I understood your original post as it was clarified in the subsequent posts. You’ve commented in a very level-headed sort of way and I find myself nodding in agreement. I think I’ve played in this neighborhood enough for today and will see you again on the next post, I’m sure.
*waves*
I wish every disagreement in the comments could be
Iike this.
What purpose would this new PR serve? The Oscar voters couldn’t care less what he does with his baby momma drama as they are very well aware why all this crap took place. They are not going to give him extra consideration just for knocking up a woman he barely knows. If he thinks he will benefit from marrying this chick and revealing the sex of his surprise baby, he is only fooling himself. No one else gives a darn.
Scarf girl, what other famous people did SH date? Now I’m curious.
Jumping the broom soon Bendy? Cool, I like that. Please do it quietly with dignity and then announce to the World. That would be such a nice change! Looking forward to some beautiful pics in Feb.
Yup, proper gentleman, our Bendy. I am sure he did fetch a Coke for the elderly and he would do it again! Haha…Sophie is a lucky girl.
My first thought when I saw their photo was “oh god what now?”
Right?
My first thought was that I did not know his forehead sloped back as much as it seems to in one of the photos. I knew he was ” unusual” looking from the front but he’s fairly unusual from the side too. A shallow comment, but I think I’ve exhausted any other thoughts I might have had about them.
Heh heh… Shallow indeed, Anne Tommy, but totally understandable at this point.
(I’ll admit that I thought the same thing.)
Maybe he actually, ya know, loves her and wants to marry her? Congratulations if it’s true. Everyone needs to lay off to be honest.
Kaley,
And um…maybe he doesn’t? There’s not much to suggest true love, but there’s a hell of a lot to suggest otherwise. Im betting on he thinks he should marry her because she’s pregnant. I think that much seems very likely.
And as I said upthread, why should people ‘lay off’? They’ve both put their private life right out there for maximum media attention, so what’s the issue with talking about what appears to be a very odd and effed up situation.
And if he doesn’t it is still nobody’s business but theirs.
“Nobody’s business but theirs”
Oh rly? Shame he didn’t employ that before November 5th when operation ‘pimp out my private life’ kicked into gear.
Or even before she thought it would be a good idea to announce her pregnancy on a red carpet in a stretch dress and then feed the news to page six.
But of course, it’s all their business. Totes privat.
Plus it’s a GOSSIP SITE. We’re always, ALWAYS going to speculate. I love it. If the speculation creeps you out, then read the article, and then move on. What else are we supposed to do? Comment on her *snort* amazing fashion? His?
You won’t find many people giving them congratulations on the wedding and baby, Kaley. If they are going to get married before the baby arrives, good for them. If not, good for them. Whatever they want to do with their lives is totally up to them, regardless of what his so-called fans think.
Well some of us prefer not be blindly devoted ‘fans’ and are happy to be a bit appalled and call out the utterly bizarre way this has been played out since she appeared on the scene, the way he’s acted and the way it’s being used for publicity.
I find it really hard to believe that people are surprised that a great deal of people are not Stepford automatons awwwing and congratulating what’s clearly a very weird, manufactured, rushed and hardly ideal event for him.
If people want to ignore all that fine, but don’t tell everyone else they need to be good ‘fans’ and pretend this is a true love story.
@Kat, no one said you had to be blind automotons. Casual fans can compliment them without you deciding you need to school us on the truth about their relationship. Maybe, it’s not that serious to us because we aren’t dissecting every single moment in this man’s life. Maybe we aren’t dissecting every action of Sophie’s and seeing something nefarious in it. That’s why it does not matter to us if a 38 year old man and his girlfriend had sex, got pregnant, got engaged, and are planning to marry. Maybe we don’t care if it’s rushed or if he isn’t a smiling happy fool every time he’s pictured.
How can you know what is “ideal” for him or his feelings about this situation? You are just guessing and basing your guess on a few photos here and there. According to this logic I was extremely upset when I received my Masters because I look a bit sad in one of the photos.
Celebrities are using things for publicity. Angie has chickenpox and the Pope, JenA has singledom and divorce, Benny has baby and engagement and I could go on and on.
I don’t think we all need to be good fans. I would just say that it would perhaps be slightly better and less unsettling if some people were less…intense and crazy about it.
Anny,
I’m pretty tired of people trying to label other people as ‘intense and crazy’ about this. I think most people here are just baffled and morbidly interested in which next PR misstep he’s going to take this. So please give the shaming a rest. Clearly nobody here is unhinged.. isn’t everyone spending time in celebrity gossip sites a little bit odd?
There’s some crazy devoted fans of his who are currently making an embossed congrats book with calligraphic messages of joy, if you find that less scary?
And no, I will stick my neck out and say that dating someone for a few months and them getting pregnant, isn’t actually an ideal situation.
And it really isn’t a case of ‘a few photos’ where he’s not beaming with joy. There’s a marked difference in how he’s behaved since she appeared, and yes, that’s a fact.
This has been one bizarre event after another ever since she materialised and a lot of people have noticed that. You don’t have to agree but you certainly don’t have to paint them as over invested loonies for spotting when things look less than the rosy picture ‘the facts’ (the press) would have us believe.
@mia,
Obviously causal fans can have an opinion without being ‘schooled’, but if that casual opinion has to be punctuated with a barb to ‘so called fans’ , I don’t think that’s fair at all and that’s what I have the issue with. Is that not attempting to school us?
You can think and believe what you want but why have a dig at the people who quite fairly think this is all very odd?
And no, he doesn’t have to look like a ‘smiling fool’ and that clearly isn’t the point that people have been trying to make.
Kat you need to step away from the caffeine.
If he loved her and wanted to marry her:
1. He would look a hell of a lot happier right now
2. He would not give a f*ck what people on some gossip websites were saying
Word.
Exhibit A: they got engaged. Exhibit B: they are expecting baby together. Exhibit C: he said he is happy with her. Those are the facts. Anything else is pure speculation based on attempts to guess what their “body language” means, whether they spend enough time together or whether he looks happy enough to meet a criteria for “willingly getting married”. Occam’s razor – I think he wants to be with her.
Honestly, some of the reactions are really scarily similar to Robsten fans in their sheer unwillingness to discuss facts rather than speculations. At least in this case it hasn’t reached that level of insanity (yet).
Exhibit A: they got pregnant
Exhibit B: they got engaged
Exhibit C: they get married
The Great British Love Story this isn’t. Probably not all doom and gloom as some (including me) believe. But my hunch is she is due in May. Possibly even April. Time will tell of course.
However, I would caution against believing what BC says. Too many examples where he has said one thing and then flipped flopped. And while I admit I was way too invested in this situation, and have wasted too many hours giving a flip. Take this with grain of salt: don’t put public figures on a pedestal. They have too many agendas-business and personal. Media is used accordingly.
Just respect the work, and learn from their public mistakes because life is too short for us to learn all of these lessons from our own little lives.
Meanwhile, I will be drinking martin is watching how this all plays out.
Edited by me, because afraid original post had too much snark
I am definitely not making this out to be the Greatest love ever or anything. Notice I didn’t say “he really loves her and it is the greatest love ever”. I said “he want to be with her”.
Also, I didn’t put those points in chronological order, I agree. Sorry about that.
I just think he wants to be with her genuinely and that’s it.
I don’t know him personally so I wouldn’t know, I just consider the facts rather than speculations. That’s it.
Thanks for editing, it was okay, not too much snark. I hope mine lacks snark too. I will gladly join you for that martini and we can watch this situation unfold together.
I’d say May but then I have no experience with pregnancy yet so I don’t really know.
I don’t know. I’ve heard from others that his fans hired private investigators to discover the truth about them. That could be just Tumblr, but that’s pretty cray cray to me.
Anny,
But has it not occurred to you that other people are working with facts too? Why are you assuming it’s all a case of crazy fans running around citing blackmail plots and other such BS? I’m genuinely interested to know what makes you think he seems genuine..
Mia,
I saw the investigator thing on Tumblr. It was someone quite clearly joking when they were talking about him a acting weird.
@TheOMia: I hope to heck that’s just Tumblr. I would think a real PI would laugh at that. Were do these lunatic come from?
Edit @Kat: thanks for the update. That’s a teeny bit reassuring.
I am so glad that nobody hired a PI.
Kat, I reaplied to these question a bit lower in the thread. I am not attacking you personally with the “crazy” comments but apparently it bothers you, so I will try to explain. I see a man recently engaged with a baby on the way. I don’t really see anything about him that screams “sad” or “tragedy”. To me he seems his normal reserved self. She seems like a pretty woman. I don’t know her personality so I cannot say anything else. They seem like a normal couple. He dated her for a while (since spring…?), she got pregnant, he proposed, they will probably get married. Speculations about her trapping him seem a bit over the top. Also I saw some comments about her being an escort and other quite hurtful things, hence the “crazy” because it really seems some people are overly invested in a relationship that doesn’t really concern them.
Anny,
Um, Yep..funnily enough, it does bother me to see people being classified as crazy for no good reason.
Look, we can go around in circles with this, but I don’t think it’s going to do a lot of good. If you see nothing unusual about the situation, then that’s fine.
But for anyone who wants to look, it’s there. The very public celeb box at the French open, The bizarre purposely done arrival of her just before him in her own car onto the red carpet at LIFF and out of the hotel into photographers, but according to him, that was because they weren’t engaged then and didn’t need to ‘show off’, the arrangement of it all around the press for TIG and Oscars, the award stilted behaviour, the flat out forced and weird things he says about her in interviews, his complete lack of spark in most recent photos, and complete change in his public persona since TIFF. His general 180 over his privacy..
That’s just the surface of what’s stood out about being weird in all of this. If you want to see the surface of a man that meets a woman who gets pregnant and they get engaged, then that’s up to you, but it really isn’t right or fair for anyone to be seen as ‘crazy or fan ficitony’ if they see past that.
Anny, let me know what kind of martini you like so I can stock up! I understand, I think, where you are coming from. I agree-he chose this course of action. Thank you for the reply.
Don’t know what it is like where you guys are but it is a glorious 63 degree sunny day where I am and going to enjoy.
Oh Kaley do you know how dangerous it is to be reasonable in these Cumber crazed threads?
God speed my sistah!
Poll: Do you think they will get married?
A) yup, because Tietjens
B) yup, because Twue Wuv
C) nope, because PR
D) because I want to make up my own response involving comet octopi
d) because he is a posh uppity simpleton and wants his octopi otter pups of astral origin to be just a posh and uppity
E) The whole thing has been so bizarre I can’t even speculate at this point.
D) And my reason is: the wedding is unlikely to take place in some bizarro-themed drive-thru Vegas venue and will therefore be NO FUN. Also, because comet-related content is required for this option, if Philae isn’t the wedding transport and the reception venue isn’t the surface of 67P, THERE’S NO POINT.
*claps*
Oh, yeah! Also, since NO ONE KNOWS exactly where Philae is at the moment, it actually WOULD be a private wedding. fer reals.
You failed to mention octopi, so I’m afraid I’m going to have to disqualify your answer. Better luck next time! 😉
This story is so bs I bet the mail got the tip from annahunter@gmail.com.
He will probably be in LA schmoozing right after the baftas.
Get it over with already. Also, Kinvara is the name of a really good running shoe made by Saucony. That’s my take from this story.
Bruce Dern wanted a Coke? Bruce Dern? A Coke?
He also still won’t mention Burlesque Fairytales. I know it sucked but is he that embarrassed?
Maybe he can’t mention the name of things he is embarrassed about 😉
lol
Ouch!! That was fantastic.
Oh, yeah, I’m sure he doesn’t like talking about HIS embarrassing roles (stay classy, Bendy).
Don’t most actors have embarrassing roles? Especially the ones who lack opportunities or had to start in countries with crappy filmmaking standards? Yeah, I’m sure HE wouldn’t take people mocking HIS embarrassing roles very well…
Yes, I remember trying to watch that years before any of us knew or cared about BC and it was painfully awful. I lasted about 5 minutes.
Burlesque fairy tails was a terrible film. No wonder he doesnt want to talk about where they initially met. Its like the Gigli of his career.
At this point, the whole charade is tiresome. If you get married next month, congratulations. I hope you two learn to moderately tolerate each other.
Really? That’s the Gigli? He doesn’t seem embarrassed by TFE though.
elles, they’re looking for you over at Tommy’s post. Gracie too.
Have you two been sucked into the Tumblr labyrinth? 😉
What? There is Tommy thread? Damn, had too much of a busy day. Elles, wait for me!
I could be wrong but I really don’t see how the pregnancy could be anything other than unplanned. No matter how in love you are I fail to see how two people could decide to have a baby together after only 2-3 months of dating. The fact that BC is totally booked up would also suggest this.
It makes the engagement look completely reactionary and no doubt people will question whether that would have been the natural progression of the relationship if she wasn’t pregnant. I dont massively get the impression he is convinced this is what he wants.
With articles saying they have known each other since 2009? I worked with a lot of people in 2009. Doesn’t mean I know them well enough to have a baby with them!
well the PR have been trying to spin that they’ve actually been together longer than the speculated since May last year.
For what it’s worth I agree with you, the whole engagement made so much sense when the bump made an appearance and his PR have been trying to spin it into a more romantic version of the truth. I dont buy that it’s all an arrangement by Harvey or any of the other ludicrous stuff people have reported seeing on other sites. Just two people who were casually shagging for a month or two, she got pregnant and he’s traditional and getting older so…
Exactly. He can do whatever he likes, but I’m not buying that it’s a genuine love story.
The fact that there’s so much spin going on is what bothers me. I keep picturing Malcolm Tucker behind it all!
@lindy79,
ITA- this was the 1st article I saw that said they were together since 2009; this is such a PR fiasco:
“He and Hunter have been together since 2009, when they appeared in the film “Burlesque Fairytales.”
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/sherlock-star-benedict-cumberbatch-announces-engagement-newspaper/story?id=26702523
@ireadtoomuch: Oh since the beginning of this mess there have been occasional mentions of “Cumberbatch engaged to long-term girlfriend” or journalists conveniently saying they’d dated for five years instead of five months. Wonder if anyone told Conrad Shawcross? He and Sophie only broke up in 2010 afaik
Or Olivia, Anna, and Lydia
ITA, anon.
No way in hell he would have *planned* to be living with a newborn/infant while he’s rehearsing and performing Hamlet. No. Way.
I wondered what had happened, but you’re ANON and the other is anon. You make much more sense.
This ANON writes good sense. Let’s crown her Queen of those-who-shall-not-be-named.
Comparing the pictures above with Kinvara and now – boy has he aged
No no it’s just around SH. When he did the thing with Sienna Miller he looked 28.
I think it’s just the make-up he wears on the red-carpet, it always ages him. But in the past 3 years, he has aged by what looks like 10 years!
And he looks about 30 with KK. Stress ages one.
A bit off topic- but have you guys seen that leggings and crop top outfit with benedict’s face all over it? Think Sophie’s avant garde style is rubbing of on the fan-girls.
i will believe they get married when we see the announcement. like others have said, the fail is trying to have “trouble in paradise” for Eddie as well.
Yes, I think they’ll marry in February. Since she is pregnant , the sooner the better. It will be easier on her.
And perfect timing for the Oscars, of course..
At this point, I’m coming to Cumberbatch posts for the comments. You are all hilarious.
I can’t imagine being this hungry that I’d do all of this but then again, that’s why I’m not an actor, I guess.
For the life of me I don’t get how did guy is such cat nip for some women. Fair enough to each her own. I’ve been sporadically reading the Cumby threads and I’m impressed with the number of posts and the passion. Some people are really scandalized that he got a woman pregnant and proposed, order NOT important. Gimme a break.
Actually, I think he’s fair game for speculation and criticism. Pile on, ladies. But I feel icky reading about the betrothed. She’s a civilian, she hasn’t engaged publicly, I mean interviews etc., she’s just being there, supportive arm candy. I do the same for my husband, and he does the same for me. Civilian spouses should be off limits.
Thank you. You are exactly right.
I’m amazed at the number of posters on Cumby threads that have an almost psychic ability to read his thoughts, know what he’s feeling, that Sophie tricked him into marrying, and that the whole thing is an utter sham to win an Oscar. They must all be telepathic….or Cumberpathic, I think it only manifests itself selectively.
Jaded,
Um , actually nobody here has said that the entire thing is a sham to win an Oscar or that she’s ‘tricked him into marrying’.
I also don’t recall many people stating their opinions as fact, so why aren’t people allowed to speculate on what they see?
Seriously, it’s one thing to disagree, but it’s quite another to try and attempt to paint everyone seeing this as all a bit weird, rushed, used for publicity etc.. as crazy. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. What’s anyone actually getting out of that?
@Kat…I was being sarcastic. I don’t normally post on Cumby threads because I have read the most insane stuff involving her deliberately getting pregnant, him shilling out the forthcoming marriage as a way of attracting attention during Oscar season, etc. Some people just have over-active imaginations I guess and read into this way more Machiavellian plotting than it deserves. Just trying to make a joke. That’s all.
OK, but it does appear to be what you think.
I don’t know why you believe any of those ideas to be ‘insane’? Why is it insane to look a bit further than the ‘facts’ of man and woman having baby, so man proposes.
I find it hard to believe that anyone who’s paid any attention to all this would think it’s weird to be questioning it.
I’m not saying I believe she ‘deliberately got pregnant’, but if people want to speculate on that on a gossip site, why does that make them ‘insane’?
And c’mon, do you honestly not believe he’s used his personal life for this campaign? That is surely beyond opinion.
Kat, I have seen several posts from several posters in previous threads talking about her tricking him into the pregnancy thing by deliberately forgetting to take her pill, talking about their inevitable early divorce, talking about how being with her apparently “ages” him, talking about paternity tests and other rather wild theories. And yes, I have seen the Oscar theory here repeated over and over again. So yes, some of the theories seem crazy. Or if you don’t like expression “crazy” then a bit.. “fanfiction-like”.
Because no one has ever deliberately gotten pregnant, no-sir-ee! No woman would ever do that to a wealthy famous man! Never!
I don’t understand why that’s a crazy theory. It’s no more crazy than anything on the Brangelina/anniroux? Threads.
Um, yeah, I think the order is important actually. A sudden engagement when you realise there’s a pregnancy looks a lot different to becoming engaged first and later having a baby.
And no, she’s not just a ‘civilian’. Let’s not portray her as an overwhelmed office girl who’s been thrown into the limelight. She’s very much put herself ‘out there’ with her, IMO, terrible performance art in the past and from the pictures I’ve seen in the past, she’s very used to celeb parties and posing for cameras.
There’s been an awful lot of shilling out of privacy to the max with whatever these two have going on as soon as this Oscar campaign started so she’s really not a shy wallflower who just wants to be the supportive Mrs. And the tacky reveal at the PIFF in the most stomach enhancing dress she could find, didn’t really scream someone who wanted to ‘be there’ and support. It was done to stir up the press. I also didn’t see much in the way of support when she decided to piss off in a huff in front of cameras at the ESAs either.
Yes, to all Kat said.
Meh, not convinced by what you’re trying to say. I’m not familiar with this woman’s public life, and I don’t care enough to research it. I don’t have a clue about the pissing off incident. I’m convinced though that this woman, before the engagement, was a nobody as far as the public at large is concerned. Hence civilian. Like, Sophie who? I do know about the dress you’re talking about, and your statement is hyperbolic. It’s not a skin tight dress, the way Angelina Jolie wore with her second pregnancy. It’s a rather loose dress, and the bump show, as bumps tend to do. It’s not a tent, and it’s not too revealing. It’s just a damn dress on a pregnant woman. Again, meh.
So, again the Cumby person is fair game. That’s part of his job, to fire up the fans and be the center of chatter. Her, not so much.
Well, I’m sorry you’re not convinced, but if you wanted to do some checks, you maybe would be. I don’t know how you can brush off what I’m saying when you can’t be bothered to find out either way for yourself.
And no, my statement isn’t hyperbolic. I didn’t say ‘skin tight’ dress, I said ‘stomach hugging’. It’s a dress that makes someone look pregnant and highlights a bump. She chose to wear it to draw attention to the area, when if she wanted to keep it quiet, she could’ve very easily dressed to hide it, instead of baiting the media, stirring the press and causing another wave of press attention in time for the Globes.
If she doesn’t want ‘fire up fans and be the centre of chatter’ maybe she shouldn’t be pulling publicity stunts that do just that.
Why did she have to hide her belly? Should she be ashamed of it? She was there to support her man, why should she hide the fact that she was pregnant? The thought is quite outrageous. Besides, I doubt you were ever pregnant if you think you can hide a bump, that sucker is going to stick up through any fabric or cut.
Gah, this comment rubs me the wrong way, it’s not like pregnant women don’t have enough to deal with already, they have to hide now, or else the interwebz are going to think of them as fame whores! The mere thought is childish.
All the pregnant ladies: stay at home or go out, just be comfortable and happy!
@ando
Oh dear GOD… *bangs head against wall*
This has got NOTHING to do with pregnant women generally hiding. Clearly. Christ.
It’s to do with the fact she deliberately dressed in something clingy to whip up press attention before the Globes.
It was a dress to draw attention to a bump, a bump that nobody knew anything of until then. And along with it, drawing further attention by pointing the bag to her stomach.
It was a cheap tabloid trick to gather more publicity followed up by the tabloid confirmation. And she isn’t so pregnant that it cannot be hidden, as demonstrated at the Globes where you could hardly see a anything. If she wanted to protect herself from tabloid attention and publicity, she could quite easily have done. But again, it whipped up the media in time for another press onslaught.
You live in lala land if you think this dress was designed to bring up attention and this one was for hiding. Seriously, have you been pregnant before?
I’m very protective of pregnant women, and their bodies autonomy in general. Comments about attention hungry bumps are unacceptable. I don’t care if she’s a public figure or just a someone from the street. When I was pregnant I felt like flaunting, and then hiding, I felt like the center or the universe or a bundle of pain. If some random made me in any way accountable about my appearance, my reaction would have been, well, unpublishable.
Ando,
What in the name of all that’s holy are you talking about?
For a start, you’re completely wrong. That dress highlighted the bump in a big way and the GG one hid it.
I honestly don’t know how to respond to the rest of what you’re saying here, because it literally makes no sense.
We’re not talking about women in general, we’re talking about attracting media and press attention to something that’s deeply personal for the sake of publicity.
Calm down.
Hun, since you to have seem no experience with maternity wear , with maternity in general, since you don’t have any proof of intent of this woman’s actions or choice of dresses, but only opinions, I must conclude you’re talking out your rear end. Even if I were to take your ‘opinion’ at face value, the intent of stirring up attention, what is it to you? Why does one woman trigger dozens of replies? Anyway, the suggestion that she’d better hide is vile.
Firstly, Ando, please don’t call me ‘Hun”.
Secondly why do you keep screaming at me about not being pregnant?..you know nothing about me.
It’s not opinion ..it’s fact. That dress shows off a pregnancy, the GG one concealed it.
And despite your charming use of words, no I’m not ‘talking out my ‘rear end’ What exactly are you finding so hard to grasp about this? It’s not about a ‘pregnant woman hiding’ issue. It’s a tacky way to win press attention at an intensely media heavy time for a supposedly private man. Again – fact.
OK, deary then: unless you’ve been in private communication with this Marceau looking person, you don’t know her intentions. Since you don’t know that, your opinion is opinion, not fact. Don’t present it as fact. Speculate away, preferably not about pregnant women. I bring your lack of experience with pregnancy, because that’s actually a basis to talk in terms of facts, such as maternity wear hardly ‘hiding’ anything. If you’re past your first trimester, only a space suit would cover the coming baby, and why would one hide her belly anyway.
Still, why so driven?
Ando,
I think you need to unclench and step back. You’re being unpleasant.
She deliberately wore the dress that showed her stomach. Fact. This was on a red carpet in front of photographers. Fact. The press attention of the globes was less than a week later. Fact.
And yes, you can disguise a bump, as she did at the GGs and Keira has also been doing so.
And please stop making comments about what I know about pregnancy. You know nothing at all about my experience of pregnancy.
Oh lord, I’m the unpleasant one? Are you serious? Why, just because I’m pressing your so-called argument? Do you need a dictionary definition of what ‘fact’ means? Do you know what deliberate means? if you state that something was deliberate, even if you do it about a hundred times, it doesn’t make it true. If it was deliberate, prove it.
And no, it’s obvious you don’t know zilch about pregnancy. You made me chortle with Keira’s dress hiding her bump. The topic of the thread was whether this unknown woman could be a legitimate subject of internet talk. The answer is no. Speculate away about the famous one of the pair, and back off a pregnant woman.
No, it’s because you’re being unpleasant because you’re aggressive and insulting.
What are you even talking about?
You quite clearly have the basic comprehension issue with events here. She wore the dress to stir the attention of the press. You could not see the bump in the GG dress.
Facts. Got that?
This ‘unknown woman’ has made herself known and quite willingly so. Nobody needs you to stand up for them and your lack of complete reason is starting to come off as quite scary.
And for the last time, stop passing comment on what experience I’ve had with pregnancy. You know nothing about what I’ve done in my life at all. At least have the decency to take a hint and stop bringing it up in every post.
‘She wore the dress to stir the attention of the press.’
Prove it. Do you have insider knowledge? Spill then. Do you have any other proof than a few photos, which is what I have also? What other bigger picture that justifies intent I’m missing then? Are there any statements, interviews, tweets I don’t know of and you do?
Again, you’re entrenched in your rabbit hole, but that’s not the world of facts, honey.
I’m standing up against vileness directed against pregnant women, not for this particular woman. I’m protective, and it’s a normal thing to feel, even though an internet mud fight is vacuous.
I’ll draw to your attention that so far you’ve called me names, not I.
Dear god, what’s the matter with you. It’s doesn’t need proving. It’s clear.
There’s ‘vileness’ and plain weirdness, and it’s coming from you. I don’t think anyone pregnant or otherwise would want you in their own corner. I’ve said several times this isn’t a ‘pregnant women should hide’ issue. I can’t quite believe you’ve chosen to read it as that. Accept it and stop because you’re starting to look more than a little silly.
And you’re making it personal, attacking me, because you have nothing. You keep droning the same thing on and on, and you supplant the rest with personal attacks. It doesn’t need proving, it’s clear. This is not a rational stance. You can’t present opinion as objective fact and expect to be taken seriously.
Jesus.
Lady, you need help.
Whew! I’d say you BOTH look silly.
Seriously, that’s all you got? A personal attack. You know it’s coming. I need help? Prove it.
Anonymous,
Well, it’s good to know that. I was holding out for your opinion on this one. How do I look silly, exactly? Apart from wasting my life trying to explain a simple point five times.
I think you just answered your own question. 🙂
Kat, I’m sure this isn’t the first time you’ve heard this (today) but you really need to calm down.
Ando’s right. You have no evidence that she wore that ‘stomach enhancing’ dress which she ‘chose to wear to draw attention to the area’ so that she could ‘stir the attention of the press’.
It’s just your opinion. Not a fact. Unless she told you so herself.
And I’m sure she could have found a dress to better hide her bump, but why should she? These aren’t Victorian times.
I get that you’re probably frustrated that everyone thinks you’re unhinged, when you obviously just care about him a lot. But he’s engaged to marry her. They will share a child together. These are the real facts. And everything else is just speculation.
Anonymous,
OK, I’ll give you that..
Anonymous, you’re actually charitable calling me silly, it’s downright stupid to meddle in these posts BUT I did get super riled up about all this bump inquisition and calls for paternity tests and so on. This silly one bows out.
Don’t feed the trolls.
G&T
You can hold off on the horrifically patronising attitude thanks and actually, I’m perfectly calm.
And ‘unhinged’? Wow, what a charming piece of work you are. No, everyone doesn’t think that of me, but what a nice girl you must be to say it.
Half of me wonders if you’re Ando under a pseudonym seeing as you seem to be having the same issue with basic comprehension and nasty attitude.
What is so hard to understand? There has been no sign of pregnancy until that red carpet. There were crowds of photographers, press, journos and obviously she looked pregnant in the dress. The cat would be out the bag if she wore it. In addition to that, the faux, ‘I don’t want to be noticed’ gesture of the bag held up at her midsection drew attention to it. Lo and behold, the whispers and gossip sites started and it gets confirmed in the tabloids a few days later and a few days before the next wave of attention at the Golden Globes. This was done for maximum publicity, yet people still insist his private life is kept private, when it clearly isn’t.
This is NOTHING to do with a ‘Victorian’ attitude and women hiding pregnancy.
Wow, you’re really taking this to the next level, aren’t you?
There are a little over 300 posts on this article, and about 50 of them are yours. Without sounding ‘horrifically patronising’, I feel a bit sorry for you.
What ‘next level’ would that be exactly? And no, dear..we’re past ‘horrifically patronising’ with you now, and you’re straight into pure vicious territory. Why are you trying to ridicule someone for posting on a celebrity chat thread? Scraping the barrel now I think..Counting my posts? Whatever you need to do to get through the day..
Maybe if my views fitted in with your own obsession you’d be a bit more chilled and ..I dunno…less vile about it? Just a thought..
Oh I’ve got a fabulous life thanks, doll. But judging by the kick you get out of saying such unpleasant things, I’m certainly beginning to feel a bit sorry for you.
What, she’s an avant garde civilian? Sorry, she’s no civilian. Civilians do not act in major motion pictures, release albums, appear in music videos partially nude, do car commercials, and on and on. Nope, she’s an actor/singer/director and she’s now paired up with a Oscar nominee and walking red carpets like they were put there in HER honor. (OK, that’s certainly the vibe I have gotten from her – haughty.) Anyway, she’s fair game, whether she’s talking or not – she DID go to mime school…
“she’s an actor/singer/director and she’s now paired up with a Oscar nominee and walking red carpets like they were put there in HER honor. ”
This.
She’s an UNSUCCESSFUL actor/singer/director wannabe now walking red carpets like they were put there in HER honor and being celebrated on magazine covers just for being knocked up by Benedict Cumberbatch.
All or her rabid fans that came out of the woodwork while didn’t even know her name 6 months ago should drop their hypocritical adoration and admit that Miss Hunter is definitely not there because of her merits but because she’s exploiting his fame and her pregnancy. People with eyes can see that.
Such an accomplishment! All women should take her as their life model. She’s like the ultimate example of accomplished woman who worked very hard to build a career and a name for herself. Yeah, as if.
I feel actually sorry for the guy. Yeah, yeah, I know, he should have been more responsible, use condom, etc…and yet, he was always so excited about his future life, about finding a woman he is going to marry and children he’s going to father – and now he has to settle down for “theatre director” with questionable past and raise a child that wasn’t wanted. That’s just sad. I hope at least his professional life is going to be okay.
How do you know the child isn’t wanted? Why is “theater director” tantamount to “garbage collector”? What is her “questionable past”? Was she a madam in a brothel?
They move in similar circles, have known each other for a long time. Marrying her isn’t going to ruin his professional life either, he will carry on doing what he does and likely so will she.
There’s a huge difference between unplanned and unwanted child. I think we can safely say that the child is unplanned. Unless he has gone completely insane.
I think the “theatre director” element, is down to the fact her professional accomplishments have been exaggerated to say the least and in some cases, plain lies.
Classifying her as an ‘opera director’ when she had a hand in one experimental mash up of ‘The Rape of Lucretia’ for example..
And with regards to how long they’ve known each other. They worked together in 2009 and they have some mutual friends, but nobody knows how much they’ve seen each other during that time.
So the big deal about her questionable past is that she only directed one play? Really? That is the scandal? She embellished her CV? The horror!
Anny,
Um, no…that’s not what I said at all. There’s quite a list of lies/embellishments with regards to her work.
As I’m sure you’ll notice, I said “for example” I also didn’t say that she “only directed one play” was the problem.
Sorry my bad, read that too fast. But really, she lied on her CV. Or maybe Benny’s publicist did. That’s pretty stupid but it doesn’t make her a bad person, just a foolish one. Why is she so disliked? The way people go on about her really makes her look like a criminal so that is why I am asking.
You captured my feelings, Kathy.
I second that question. Why is “theatre director” considered such a shameful profession? My friend is opera director, should I be worried? As for her “questionable past” – what exactly does that mean? Is she a prostitute? If so, is it such a big deal? I don’t really get it. He has known her for several years if I am correct so I suppose he knows all about her shocking past (whatever it is). No, really. I really do want to know what has she done! Is it really so terrible? Worse than say…Kim Kardashian?
It’s not that she’s a theatre director, more that she pretends to be one (ditto opera director. Her links to opera are laughable) that some people take issue with.
I think the Fail article has as much validity as the one about buying that gawdawful house in LA.
Sorry for the long post and English is not my first language in advance.
Fans have been conned by the otter king. He is a con artist who does not know he is one. The public and himself are the marks. He is fooling himself and us into thinking that he is a gentleman. BC has an image that he is always trying to protect, everyone under a 100 years old think he is a sweet young man because of his parents. I think it is a facade. Who stand up for cancer and smokes? I guess lung cancer is not real cancer. I digress, interviews can be deceivingdeceiving. you have sometimes try understand what is not being said. He has been trysting and using is currency all over the world , even with the women who just wanted to have a go at him and that he can smell a mile away. Who would not? Single, famous, rich, fairly attractive, why not enjoy the women that are throwing themselves at him. But he has to pretend and suggest to us that it is not his game. He is much more proper. When you aspire to be a fictional character like tiejtens is because you are miles, miles and miles away from being as principle as he is. Even tietjens lost the battle at the end.
I do not agree with people who thinks it is PR. It is a personal decision that went craycray. Trying to be a gentleman, put the announcement in the times and brushing over the pregnancy. Gentlemen do not get their women pregnant and have to marry. That is not the usual way don,’t you know people! Although history is full with such stories. If he was smart, instead of pretending and convincing us that he is above of knocking up a woman like the rest of us motals, he would have married her quietly without any fairytale hoopla. I also do not agree that he does not like her. I have no idea of knowing. It might not be the love of the century, but there is something there. I think the Pissybatch has to do more with the embarrassment of not having the baby he always says that he wants (never sure it was ever true) on his own term (girlfriend, fiance, wife then baby). I think he really started dated The Huntress because he likes her and she got pregnant. Now, they making the best of it. Unfortunatly , for him the situation occurred during awards season.
Maybe at the end we will find out it is an avant-garde piece of reenactment of Parade’s End in real life. It might be a case of art imitating life or life imitating art. Be careful what you wish for BC!
In my opinion, pure speculation (interesting with some posters I feel I have to call that out on a gossip site), I feel as though he’s falling on his sword. As though, this is the early 20th century and the honourable thing to do would be to marry the woman you impregnated, to make her an “honest woman”. “To be a man” and “to do the right thing”, whatever that means. To non-Benedict fans, the latter seems completely Edwardian for a man in the 21st century. However, Benedict fans that are familiar with his interviews know that he gives this romanticized impression of marriage and children. For some reason, I could see him foolishly thinking like this.
I’ve always gotten the impression that Benedict lives in a fantasy world in regards to family life. Some of his interviews that mentioned children would make me cringe for that reason. That is until he gave a quote not too long ago about being a god-father and how it’s great because he has none of the burden of children (heavily paraphrased). First-time I’ve ever heard him say anything “less than a positive light” about children.
All of the above is just my opinion and projections.
Yes, I noticed that. He would’ve known he was going to be a dad when he did that interview and it’s the first time he’s said something that wasn’t positive and glowing about being a parent.
I’m not so sure that he knew. I’m pretty sure that interview was done at TIFF and I don’t think he knew yet. He was still pretty normal at TIFF.
They have the same lizard face thing going on so I guess they are a Matched couple.
She looks like Sohpie Marceau, a very famous French actress. She is beautiful. I don’t understand why people have to be insulting towards her.
She really doesn’t look that much like Sophie Marceau and beauty is quite clearly very subjective here but why aren’t people allowed to dislike her? Why’s that seen as insulting?
> She really doesn’t look that much like Sophie Marceau and beauty is quite clearly very subjective here but why aren’t people allowed to dislike her
Kat, from you multiple posts here it is clear the woman cannot do anything right in your opinion. You can dislike her. That is fine. But it is not OK to insult her.
By the current standards of beauty she is beautiful – proportionate face, beautiful eyes, beautiful mouth, straight nose.
Maybe you can run a poll on the internet for an independent opinion.
@anon I was joking, I didn’t insult her.
This is a gossip site don’t take it too serious. I doubt that Hunter cares if some people on a gossip site like her or not.
Apart from that she doesn’t look like Marceau IMO.. And to be honest I don’t find her pretty, as I don’t find Cumberbatch pretty either.
@anon
Look, you’re clearly on the worship side of the fan group.
I don’t see any insults but please give the listing her ‘beautiful’ body parts a rest.
I don’t know what current beauty standards you’re referring to (the Cumbercollective girlfriend manifesto maybe) but please don’t try and force it onto anyone else.
I’l leave the poll to you, I think..
Well, Kat , at least I am on a positve side of things. All the negativty I am seeing here is not good for people’s emotional well-being.
Neither is obsession, anon.
Speaking of obsession , Kat. Have you seen the number of your own posts?
You need to learn that you don’t always have to have the last word. Just let the facts speak for themselves.
What’s the number of my posts got to do with anything?
The uberfans of his who are suddenly obsessed with this woman and professing her to be their vision of absolute beauty are far scarier than someone choosing to sideeye the hell out of it.
Greek Chic, I agree with you on “not pretty” and the lack of resemblance to Sophie Marceau. I think he’s very pretty, though. 🙂
@Lu in fact i think he’s uglier then her…I don’t get the appeal of this guy.Give me Brad Pitt, Tom Hardy, even Johnny Depp. Different tastes i guess! 😉
@Greek Chic, yeah, those three don’t do anything for me. I am into the slightly weird and “different”-looking men, I think—odd features but kind of distinguished and intelligent-looking is what interests me. I don’t like George Clooney in any way, for example. 🙂 I will grant that Sophie is not a bad-looking woman per se, I just don’t think she’s “attractive.” I can’t imagine wanting to look at her every day for the rest of my life (I’m already tired of her face), but then I don’t have to marry her. 🙂
GC. Tom hardy before all the tatoos is nice IMO, but Johnny Depp just looks dirty and wasted lately.
@Lu i don’t find her ugly too, i just think that she’s plain and nothing special. I see prettier women on the street. By then again, he’s the one that is marrying her and for him she’s pretty.
@Alica i agree that Depp looks bad these days but he’s my first celebrity crush since my teenage years and i have a soft spot on him 😉
I was only mildly annoyed at this post until I read the word ‘bastard’ now I just want to throw things.
Yeah, I got mad when I started reading about people suggesting paternity tests.
Oh geez, I side-eye them until they have their child but how long until February? I hope once they get married in February all of these Cumberbatch posts will become fading memories.
I hope after they marry they’ll both go away for a while a give the world a break. They have oversold themselves.
Huntress is really getting under people’s skin, if people think now LADY BALFOUR is a better choice after being maligned not so long ago. Who is next, the Russian model? Is she better than huntress now? It seems that no one will be satisfied with otter’s choice unless it is Olivia. If I was him I would drop huntress and get with the biggest famewhore in the world and watch the world ends.
There was nothing wrong with Anna.
Nobody would be good enough for some fans.
I am pretty sure the other internet boyfriend – Tom Hiddleston is pretty scared right now after having observed the shitstorm that hit after the BC’s engagement.
The childishness here is painful sometimes..
Did benophie shut down for the holiday?
The fanbase would have been ok after the intial news if the rest of everything hadn’t been so weird. David Tennant got married at the height of his DR.W popularity, fanbase eventually came around.. Ryan Gosling had a baby. The Supernatural guys got hitched too, but none of them acted like this about it. The strangeness is the issue, not so much him getting engaged.
> The fanbase would have been ok after the intial news if the rest of everything hadn’t been so weird
Cumby’s fanbase will eventually be OK too, in a few months.
I really don’t think there was a way to handle it any differently.
What was he supposed to do? Hide her like Gosling and Mendez did? That is even worse, like they are supposed to be ashamed of something.
Anon,
People aren’t reeling because he’s engaged, they’re mystified that it’s all so weird.
There’s many different ways it could’ve been handled. Why is she suddenly on every single red carpet being photographed, when at the LFF they were playing bizarre games with the press, making sure she was arriving strategically five minutes before him everywhere?
He didn’t need to announce the engagement two days before his biggest press tour, she didn’t need to showcase her bump in front of the press two days before globe voting ended.. Everything has been done for maximum publicity.
And why is ‘hiding’ so weird? A lot of people don’t want the spotlight. They’ve actively courted it.
And whatever he wants to do, he could at least look happy about it, which he absolutely doesn’t.
I can think of quite a few ways they could have handle this better, from a PR standpoint and from BC’s own standpoint. He’s said some batty things recently and that’s on him. His PR manhandled this completely IMO. I’m not saying they should hide, but they way they introduced her to the public was wrong.
@ InvaderTak
I agree that strangeness is the issue. Strangeness from the so called fans who stalked, pried, questioned any person on twitter who got a glimpse of them, drew green and red lines on blurry photos and made great leaps in logic based on “body language”. It was this strangeness that has made this such a mess not anything that Benedict or Sophie did.
I think it is very strange that people researched her past, dug up her friends instagrams and tweets and judged her facial expressions as smug and criticised her every move. Benedict’s facial expressions were also judged and expressions such as, “he looks as if he is going to be sick when next to her, were common along with similar hyperbolic statements.
We see what we want to see and I see a very busy man getting through a tough Oscar campaign, trying to juggle work commitments and a personal life.
@Maggie: I’m not denying that either. But you can’t not notice that BC himself and his team have done a bad job with handling everything, and that there was a massive change over from his personal life being a hands off issue to it being a key piece to his Oscar campaign. It’s not just that the fans are nuts. That happens. But the whole thing is a fiasco and he and his people are not doing themselves any favors. Even Gawker noticed it. His tough Oscar campaing revolves around this. He’s not juggling his personal life anymore, he’s putting on display.
Oh maggie, maggie..
You said you wouldn’t be back. Yet you keep coming back!
You don’t have to ‘stalk’ to look for the strangeness.
And I’ve heard some nonsense, but you really believe that everything about this from their side is completely normal? I realise this is arch nanny imdb territory, but you don’t think there anything strange about how they’ve acted and timed their announcements?
You’re certainly right on the ‘we see what we want to see’, and that’s exactly what you seem to be doing.
And why are you picking out the nonsense hyperbolic statements like ‘he looks like he’s going to be sick’ to try and support your ‘argument’? Very few people actually say things like that.
And you see a man who’s looking less than glowing about apparently getting all he’s very wanted? And that’s due to his Oscar campaign is it? And where is his campaign? What’s he been doing?
Anon, fear of Hiddleston fan’s overreaction is the reason why Tom and I are keeping our engagement secret for the time being, though it will be announced in due course in the columns of the “Dragonfly Fanciers Monthly Journal”. Unfortunately there are no little larvae to announce as yet…
> Anon, fear of Hiddleston fan’s overreaction is the reason why Tom and I are keeping our engagement secret for the time being
Lol, very smart of you Anne. Keep it up.
Anon, you wrote upthread that you would no longer read this site. What happened to change your mind? You would do much better on IMDB because no one on this site is going to change just because you want them to. Everyone is entitled to an opinion even if it doesn’t align with yours. Just agree to disagree and move on.
Moodgirl, that was different anon.
Of course, Anne tommy and Tom’s engagement is just a hoax to keep the internets unaware that Tom and I got married on Halloween. We are very, very happy and Anne Tommy, we thank you for your help.
On Halloween? So it was Tom and you, Lilacflowers, in disguise as Adam and Eve at that Vampire wedding? I can’t believe he’s two timing me like that. Bigamy is the only solution.
Honestly, and I know I will get jumped on, I liked the Lady K relationship. Yeah sure she has her bad points but don’t we all? And I liked Anna and Olivia.
The Comet just strikes me as pretentious. She might be the most down to earth girl on planet. Her art doesn’t indicate that to me, but, that is partly why I think she and the Batch deserve each other. She can have him. Can you imagine trying to get a word in with him after he has had one too many?
Which one will file for divorce first, her or him, do you think?
Him
I don’t know. Honestly, I can’t imagine trying to make a marriage work with his schedule. I travel with my job and I struggle maintaining friendships, let alone a romantic relationship of substance. And I think I said upthread, not wasting my time following them after the wedding. Pure speculation: I think he wants to craft this marriage so that they are some kind of elite artistic couple. Parts of what we have seen seem so contrived to me. It really seems like a badly written BBC mini series. So I suspect it will last longer than expected, even if publicly rocky in future. Or, who knows, maybe it will go distance.
Depends on how he feels about the kid. If he loves it he’ll remain miserable bc I can see her using it as a tool to wring as much money from him as possible. And he wants kids as much as he’s stingy with money. Lose lose for him really. I see her ending it once she can claim she’s been him for so long she deserves a nice slice of his banoffie pie
Did anyone see that interview on I think Dateline? He smiled from ear to ear talking about. He is def in love with her
Every single interview I’ve seen where’s spoken about her as been strained and rather painful. I’m yet to see him smile convincingly about anything to do with this at all, let alone ear to ear.
@anna: that must have been some fanfic you read. never happened in real life
or from a written interview.
Check out The Fellowship of Erdemhart’s page. She has a link to a video showing every time BC mentions or is asked about SH on film. Not a single ear to ear smile in the bunch. Grimaces, frowns, head shakes… no joy.
Never saw him on Dateline. Have never heard him speak fondly of her. When was this or better do you have a link?
I will try and find it
Ir you are talking about the golden globes preview show, he did not smile ear to ear. He gulped and gave a stilted and awkward answer.
as usual.
If Benedict says he’s happy than I am happy for him. I am glad that he has gotten everything he’s wanted.
If they get married privately, without turning it into a extravagant pr circus, I say kudos for them..+100.
Too late..
Interesting that Sophie’s Instagram (chassechasse) – which used to be locked/private – is now completely gone. Or maybe she changed urls? Is that possible?
They won’t.
For the people who believe that they are truly in love, please give me one reason why she walked the red carpet alone at the LFF.
At that time they were together, but according to him, not ready for the world to be seen as a couple, because they were not engaged yet. He had been on the RC with other girls and it never seemed to bother him at all.
Even worse, if she was already pregnant ( which is what I believe) at LFF and he did not walk with her. The mother of his child. How is that true love???? She walked by herself, not with his family and friends. Bizzare….
If he did not want the focus to be taken away from the movie that night, simply leave her at home, or make her entrance less obvious. Side door, with a group of other people etc.
If they had never talked about the extend of their relationship in terms of how long they are together and what their exact status is and simply walked red carpets together, people might have speculated, but he would have looked so much better than he does now. There was no need for any public announcement about their relationship status other than Oscar PR.
Right, the LFF incident defies any reasonable explanation. Thus, it served as the perfect introduction to what was to come with the engagement: mixed signals in public and bizarre statements from BC, especially.
She wasn’t with his family and friends either.
Yeah, it is the LFF incident that I can’t wrap my head around.
That’s the only thing you can’t get your head around? It is ALL bull**** I am confused by every single piece of it so that how I know it’s crap. No real, loving and mature couple behaves this way; I don’t care what is at stake. If they really cared for each other they would an end to the nonsense.
It’s all crazy bizarre dramatic but I think what scarfgirl means is knowing what we know now, that this was all carefully planned damage control, what the hell was LFF about? It makes no sense, it’s one puzzle piece that doesn’t fit with the rest. Did he refuse to be seen with her? Was he hoping she’d miscarry but had her show up as a kind of half arsed back story bc they’d only been seen at FO at that point?
Agree scarf girl, that’s the one piece of the puzzle that’s hard to make sense of. The rest can be more or less understood in light of the unplanned pregnancy, need to save face and Oscar campaign. The “look at Sophie doing the pap walk out of the hotel and walking on the red carpet/don’t look at her actually walking with her baby daddy/boyfriend” PR antics still have me scratching my head. The only thing I can come up with was a ploy to prepare the fans for her planned “outing/reveal” due to the engagement to be announced a month later.
What about the restaurant caper where he continued into the building while she was being bombarded by paps?
@moodgirl
Another one that pissed me off at first because I thought he just wasn’t trying to be photographed with her to try to be ‘secret.’ But who knows.
Perhaps the point of that was for HER to be seen and have her name connected with him, not them being snapped together. Weird I know but hey the general consensus is they hired the paps or at least knew they’d be there in that instance right?
Mood girl, just because I don’t think this is an entirely PR relationship doesn’t mean I don’t believe the relationship is PR free. Who knows, maybe one of them is the final Cylon? The only thing I am sure about is that I have wasted too many brain cells on this. resistance is futile. Sticking my thumb out, grabbing my towel and hoping my ride has wine. Happy speculating all and see you next post.
And most recently, at LAX after the GG, when he jumps out of the car on the sidwalk side, slams the door and walks off to wait by a pillar while she gets out of the car(on the street side, I assume)and comes over to join him. Odd, to say the least.
Wow Alice I didntknow that wow
Yep. Makes no sense at all. And his “there was no need to show off because we weren’t engaged”… Huh?
I’d suggest Oscar as a babyname. I’m probably not the first one, I know.
Oscar Hunter Cumberbatch…sounds programmatic. I mean, just in case the kid wants to follow in it’s father’s footsteps.
you’re like a stuck record!
I believe she speaks the truth.
On a different note, I can’t wait to see Cumberbatch in five years time. I feel he looks better the older he gets.
I predict that mother Sophie will carry the baby in one big front pocket of her floral dress!
@Snark: That Vanity Fair portrait of him from TIFF, where he is sitting down, wearing a chambray shirt and glasses? man, you can tell he will be one silver fox 🙂
the one sitting on the stool with his glasses on? That was a really nice picture of him. That would have been taken prior to getting the pregnancy bombshell. I do think he will look better with age, if the stress of his personal life doesn’t prematurely age him.
I think he’ll always look good, but I’m not sure he’ll get better than he is now or, even more, better than he was 3-4 years ago. Those forehead wrinkles are going to be a problem for him onscreen, I think. They suddenly popped up a year or two ago.
It’s stress and probably sun damage. I’m sure botox or juvederm is in his future.
He could probably use a little Botox for his forehead. 🙂 Just to give those muscles a rest. Maybe while he’s on paternity leave between projects (ha!) and doesn’t need to act for a month or two.
He’s had forehead wrinkles for years. I don’t think they are going to be a problem onscreen. I don’t think he is going to get Botox.
What irks people so much is that he appears to be unhappy. Most men I hate to tell you are not ready for marriage and babies particularly in his scenario (an oopsie) despite his want to have kids and marriage previously. I’ve seen women say well he will learn to love the baby and he will learn to love me. I always cringe when I hear those scenarios because it never works out in a cookie cutter sort-of way. He will love the child, I have no doubt of that, but this marriage will be a train wreck much like most Americans marriages are when they enter into a scenario such as this one. This is sad to see and probably disappointing for a lot of his fans particularly at his age. I will be interested to see if he is with her in 2-3 years time.
I keep seeing peopel claiming that BC is unhappy with the situation because he got trapped/ tricked or it was just unplanned situation.
Here is my personal perspective on this . When I decided I wanted to marry and start a family ( and we can agree that BC made public statements that he wanted to settled down with kids, right? ) I completely changed my approach to dating.
If the guys weren’t serious or not husband material, I wouldn’t even give them a second look no matter how hot/ attractive/ intresting. This is not what I was after.
My clock was ticking and I wanted to find a marriage partner .
I dated 3 guys seriously before I found Mr. Right, all of them were ready to marry me.
Anyway, the point is BC has been dating Sophie for months. If he didn’t consider her suitable wife material he wouldn’t have done that. He would’ve ended it after a few dates. He didn’t. He took her with him to his friends. That tells me he was serious about her. It wasn’t just a casual oopsie.
Now, maybe engagement and pregnancy happened earlier than they planned, it happens. But I see no reason why he would feel trapped or unhappy in this situation.
I don’t get the rushing into it part no matter what the age—it seems risky. There are so many people that have rose-coloured glasses and have their best face forward initially when dating and IMO it takes 1 year + for the facades to come down and for you to know someone truly; the good, the bad, and the annoying. I am almost 34 and I cannot imagine rushing into something as serious as marriage and children. Maybe that is just me, but everyone I know who rushed into things ended up with drama and a great mess of a divorce/unhappiness etc.
> 1 year + for the facades to come down and for you to know someone truly;
Andrea, it is different with different people. The older you get the easier it is to get to the point. For me it has been about 6 months to really know whether something is working or not. The proposal usually comes after about 1 year of dating. But people looking for serious relationships don’t drag it out that long if they already know it is not working. Why waste time.
As for why they are rushing, well, if he wants kids with Sophie specifically then they really can’t afford to wait since she is already 36 y.o. and it sounded like he wanted more than one kid.
@anon Except was he really dating her for months? I don’t believe so. He was very busy professionally and was seen with a variety of women, and her only rarely, through the summer. Then they suddenly got engaged.
Nope, nope, nope, wrong. Men operate differently than women. A man will date a woman, even if he is not serious about her, as long as he is getting what he wants and the situation is convenient for him. If he is getting what he wants he would not end it after a few dates, that would be foolish and not in his perceived best interests. He will move when he either tires of her or finds someone more interesting.
Sophie was giving Ben what he wanted so he would continue until he either decided to stay or move on – just like he had done with other women before her. The difference is she got pregnant and now he is stuck. You don’t have to be a psychiatrist to see that he is unhappy, it’s written all over his face.
Moodgirl, the scenario you are describing could get very awkward very quickly, this is why I think it is not realistic. But it is just an opinion. If he was having a casual relationship on a side while searching for Mrs. Right at the same time, this would get back through mutual friends or even worse, the media. And it would look nasty.
Wasn’t there a scandal last year where he was photographed with 2 different women within days? I am guessing he learned something from it.
Lu, I think they’ve dated since March at least because his sister said something to the media in April about him having a secret girlfriend. I think for family to speak to the media they must’ve liked her, thought her a wife material and the relationship was already a couple months old at that point. So, I am thinking February – March.
@anon
No, his sister never said anything to the media at all. Not since 2011 where she talked about him looking for someone.
The ‘article’ you refer to was a ridiculous tabloid Internet clickbait article about a ‘secret girlfriend’. There was no way SH and he would’ve been dating at that point. He was traveling all over, Malaysia, Oz etc…and apparently she was still living abroad until May.
They had to’ve been dating since the end of May at the very earliest.
Right on, moodgirl. This exactly how the vast majority of men do it. They will suffer through the worst “companionship” ever, as long as the action is consistent and doesn’t require much effort. Everyone knows this and it’s kinda “nasty.” But everyone accepts it because it’s been this way since the dawn of time. As the saying goes: Women look for love and find sex. Men look for sex and find love.
@anon – I think you are making this stuff up in your head. There are multides of people who date more than one person at a time and just because he goes out on a date doesn’t mean that his friends or family will “tell” on him.
I’ve known men who are a bit resentful of kids they didn’t want. They don’t hate them but there’s always that lingering bad taste because of the mother. Unfair on the kid but if you were in the man’s place you might feel the same. It’s half your money and life
@ Claire and moodgirl I have seen the exact same also(men being resentful) and agree with the above.
A good friend of mine talked her now husband into marriage prior before the birth of their first baby (they had only been dating 6 months when she got pregnant) and she basically bullied him into it by saying I refuse to give the child your last name until you marry me. A few years later, she got pregnant again and he asked her to have an abortion and she didn’t want to (nor should she had to), but nonetheless its been a disaster ever since now with two kids. He is in his 30’s and honestly, was not ready for babies/marriage. Yes, he got himself into it also, but I felt like my friend bullied/forced him into it all when they simply could have co-parented. Now, she feels desperate to keep the intact family together even though she doesn’t even love him! Tell me how that is an ideal situation. I wish there wasn’t such a stigma too that you don’t have to marry someone who impregnates you, it doesn’t mean you are meant to be.
Yeah, exactly. Damn sad. I’m praying the kid is not his. Seriously.
Claire, you are praying for someone marrying his pregnant GF and the kid not being his, seriously? This stuff only happens in telenovellas.
Epic flame wars today. After the dust settles, baby-marriage-Oscar, and people calm down, I have a weird feeling I’ll even miss these comments.
It’s only a flame war because one person feels the need to feed every troll that comes on here.
Which person is that?
I kid…
He will marry her. He is the 21st century Christopher Tiejtens. He has been “Tiejtenized”. i.e.”bitched”. I believe he established paternity before the engagement announcement. And he looks miserable as hell.
I am very surprised he is so stupid.
Am I the only one here that thinks he’s hideous? I mean how much does he have to pay to constantly get press here? There is nothing attractive about this man imo.
Yes, you are. Different strokes for different folks. Benedict is fine, like a nice glass of wine.
AFAIC you are. He is fine, attractive and a fascinating actor.
Asher, please help yourself to some absinthe or a Comet Sophie.
This is all fascinating in some unexplainable way. I am not too invested either way, if the speculation going on is true or not. I would like to think that his winning streak continues– both in his personal life and especially in his career life, but often times this type of hyped up celebrity finds a fall from grace. I hope not, but it might be happening. Seems like people are not tiring of him, but rather turning on him.
Does V.L.719 still post?
I’m so ready for them to get married, have this baby so it’ll be over and the posts will stop. Like they’re the first couple to ever strategize an otherwise below the radar relationship to boost ones career, give me a break. I feel bad for this girl.
So, I finally saw The Imitation Game today, and I really liked it. I liked it enough to forget for awhile about Ben’s crappy PR tour. I liked it enough to want to root for him for an Oscar win.
And then two things happened.
First, every time the subject of Alan and Joan’s “engagement” came up during the film, I started hearing similarities to BC’s relationship with Sophie Hunter…sort of a funny parallel to real-life events. Yes, I know BC’s not gay, but the whole “friends who are engaged because they can work together and like talking to one another” struck me as funny in light of the last few months.
Second, I remembered Michael Keaton will probably win.
(Imitation) Game over!
I think I’ve seen this relationship before – it’s called Ethan and Uma.
If I recall correctly, Ethan also got Uma knocked up while they were filming “Gattaca” and married her when she was 7 months pregnant. Things looked alright for awhile, until you watched “Before Sunset” and then he really exposed what he thought of his marriage. Not surprisingly, he hooked up elsewhere when he met someone who gave him a real connection and that marriage was history very quickly.
I dunno ladies, I know there’s a contingent here that wants to give Cumby Bumby and the Hunter the benefit of the doubt but this whole affair, including the two players, just reeks of disingenuousness from the word “Go”. I’d be curious to find out what Olivia Poulet thinks of the whole thing. Oh well. I guess they’ll learn the hard way that careerism and ambition are not the most important things in life and don’t make a marriage happy.
It’s too bad that Ben couldn’t borrow a page from the playbook from classier,more established acts, like Jeff Bridges for instance. Bridges was also the son of Hollywood players and quite a player himself in his younger days. But lo and behold, he fell in love with a lowly non-Hollywood stable-girl (literally) and they have one of the longest and happiest marriages in the business. And his career has only matured and gone from strength to strength over the decades. That’s the way to do it.
I looked up Bridges since I didn’t know who he was. He was born in 1949 and his wife in 1977, according to wiki. 28 years age difference?
As for marrying outside of Hollywood, Europeans can talk about equality etc all they want but when it comes to marriage they are pretty classist. They rarely marry outside of their circle, it would be asking for all sorts of trouble. Posh Brits marry posh Brits.
Jeff Bridges has been MARRIED since 1977 to a woman his own age. They met when he was on location, for Rancho Deluxe, I believe, in Montana. IIRC she was a waitress he met up there.
> Jeff Bridges has been MARRIED since 1977 to a woman his own age
That is why I asked. It seemed strange. It looks like wiki needs to be corrected.
I don’t trust wiki, never go there. I was a big fan of JB back then which is why I know that stuff.
I literally crashed into Jeff Bridges in a restaurant three years ago when he was with one of his daughters. Despite the fact that I was an out-of-control klutz and totally responsible for the collision; he sweetly apologized to me and was incredibly charming. His daughter laughed through the whole episode.
I really liked his father’s and his brother’s work also. That family seems really grounded.
Dana I totally agree. I love reading your posts, you have great insight.
Hmm that reference to Ethan and Uma may be spot on!
Man, I side eye a lot of how this is all going down. Mostly because best case scenario is that he was unreasonably hiding his “center and forevermore” for months (hopefully against professional advice), panicked and felt the need to tell everyone they were getting married as soon as she was officially 12 weeks. If that’s what happened (I don’t think it is), there were so many, more privacy friendly ways to do it. Shouldn’t have made any announcements.
Should have: Just been seen together without some Mission Impossible silliness. Walked LFF red carpet WITH her. Briefly confirmed if asked in an interview and moved it along, like JGL. Set the tone for future interviews. Get engaged and married without announcing it in the press until it was all over. He could have sent some very nice, posh announcements to actual family & friends through the post.
Now he’s screwed in all respects. Lots of his fans are disgusted with the way he handled stuff and his private life is ALLLLLL the way out there. The press will “forevermore” ask about his “center.” And everybody knows this is an “oops.” Super embarrassing for someone who’s known as proper and old fashioned. Moreso as he’s been skating along the edges of the upper class (to which he actually seems to want to belong) forever. No way this was planned. He would have proposed, married her and then started trying – even if it were in the first few months of dating. And something embarrassing he may not have thought: lots of modern people will think he’s stupid/pitiable for deciding to marry the girl just because she’s expecting. Let’s be real. That’s most probable.
And after all that, I have to say, I feel terrible for the man. This is a nightmare and it looks like he made some very poor choices – one way or the other. I hope BC and his family have a happy future where all this ruckus has gone to die. And I hope he learned his lesson!
All of what you say Ancora. Also when you quote all his horrendous over the top descriptions of her (which he made while looking like he just came out of hell), it drives home what a disaster this is. Personal life disaster, let alone a pr celeb disaster.
I agree 100% with your last paragraph, ancora. I feel, if it were true love, even if an accidental pg, why not just have a quick, private wedding, announce it after the fact, a few months later she starts showing, and no big deal, not the first or last time in celebrityland. But it’s all happened in a way that makes it obvious, to me at least, that this is not something he wanted, that it’s something being managed on the fly, being reactive rather than proactive.
A part of me hopes that I’m, we’re, wrong and in six or so months I can see that he is actually happy with a child and a family. But I have followed him for many years, watched or read all the interviews, and it is hard to reconcile the sad, hostile, sometime tipsy BC of the post-engagemwnt era with the joyous, upbeat BC of pre-engagement.
If he’s happy, then great. That’s preferable to the alternative. However, if this is as much as a disaster as it looks, I really hope his closest friends and his parents explained his options to him. I really hope his team also would not think co-parenting a child out of wedlock would ruin his career. You would have thought his guy friends would give him friendly reminders to “mind” his “currency.” I’d bet anything that BC was checking pill cases and wrapping it up religiously when he was “slumming.” Kind of makes me side eye him more. Honestly, I never consciously thought that in depth about his private life until all this nonsense.
hi ladies
i stopped reading the site for a couple of months…. seems opinion on cumby has changed from he-so-awesome-i-am-his-cumberbitch to something about how he is bendy and an otter?
when and why did the tide turn?
Hi there, confused…
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought/noticed this. I only started reading this site about 4 months ago, and don’t, and never have, read any other gossip sites. I’ve just never been interested in celebrities nor had the time. Due to an injury that has impaired my mobility, I decided to waste time on CB after clicking some link that led me here. Until that time, I had absolutely no idea who Mr Cumberbatch was. The only reason he piqued my interest was because he’s a dead-ringer to my daughter’s then boyfriend. When I started reading about him, the love was everywhere! It made think that this fella must really be something – top shelf! But I’d never seen him in anything, and, until 3 weeks ago, when our national broadcaster began airing “Sherlock”, had never heard him speak.
I also haven’t been on here for a couple of weeks. What happened?? It seems people have done a complete 180° on him. I’ve read and chortled at many of the comments upthread, but others have really put the boot in. I know nothing of his fiancee, but find her quite attractive It’s likely things could have been handled better or differently, PR-wise, but it’s water under the bridge now, I guess. I’m sure they’ve discussed the pros and cons of the pregnancy, engagement and upcoming marriage. None of us knows for sure what he’s feeling for her, though. I don’t really get the body-language experts on here, though. I think some people are not as relaxed as others when dealing with people they don’t know well. In the past, I’ve made the mistake of judging some people as being uppity, when , in fact, they were shy and reserved to begin with until we got to know each other. My own son always looked sad or unhappy, and people were forever commenting on this, yet he is one of the funniest, friendliest, kindest and most intellectual people you could meet. Body language is not all it’s cracked up to be, and from what I understand, (having been friends for many years with Alan Pease, the Aussie body language expert), it’s clusters and micro-movements that tell a story, not just a bored/disengaged face… But, whatever…
Who knows what will become of them? I’m certain he will love his child deeply and unconditionally, and, hopefully, they’ll have a long and satisfying marriage. If the relationship goes pear-shaped, well….it happens, even with all the best-laid plans.
I really like him, and wish them all the best.
Hey TeaandSympathy
I don’t think anyone’s turned on him unfairly, I just think people are really disappointed that he presented himself as someone who wanted to protect his private life, but he’s the one who’s done a 180 and is really blazing it for a publicity trail.
I don’t think anyone’s claiming to be a body language expert or analysing micro movements, but from the guy he was, he seems to have changed a great deal in his demeanour. He doesn’t seem to have the spark he had and they just seem very awkward together. It’s more a accumulative really, rather than the odd photo of him looking downcast.
But of course, you’re right… Nobody knows for sure what he thinks, so it’s all guesswork based on what we see/know.
I think everyone here does actually really like him and of course wishes him the best; I think that’s what the whole discussion is about. People just want to see him beaming with joy.
Thanks, Kat. Reading all the comments, I better understand where some people are coming from. If what some people are saying is true – very private and then suddenly courting attention – yeah, I get why they’re pissed off.
As I said, I knew nothing of him until very recently. After I posted, it occurred to me that I’d never even looked him up, so I did… For the last, oh, I don’t know how many hours, I’ve been reading about him. What an impressive body of work he can boast! I think he’s a very interesting character – the more I read, the more I like him.
Regardless of what we perceive, I’m sure we can all wish him the best.
No problem,
Yeah he’s an interesting guy, for sure. I think that’s what draws a lot of people to him. He seems (or seemed) to be something different to the Hollywood mould and his work always delivers. He’s got the potential to be one of the greats, I think.
I have to say, from all the actors Kaiser writes about, for some reason, he was the last one I would have expected to have a GF (currently fiancée) that was preggers, in what APPEARS to be a short amount of time of being together. We are spectators, we truly don’t have that much info on what or how things happened. Heck, I could have bought the whole Butler ex GF dating (if that was what is was) Fassbender, and the whole getting out of a hospital possible baby rumor to be more probable. Fassbender for some reason would be more the type. Don’t shot me people, just an observation! One truly can’t judge a book by it’s cover.
Granted, Cumby is old enough to recognize IF he truly wants this person to be the mother of his child and his future wife.
Fassy is a pro. Fassy is friends with BC. BC should have been taking “playa” lessons from Fassy. You wanna play? Know the game. End scene.
He’s on Kimmel tonight, CBS tomorrow AM, so in US apparently.
Sorry, maybe it was just that taped bit, but it was very funny. And he did a Princess Bride joke. Nice to see a bit of old Benedict.
@confused Why? For not being honest.
You can’t show off one type of public persona then all of a sudden change persona. His fans will feel that they have been played. And it’s not a nice feeling.
@Isabeau,
Um…nope. I don’t think his ‘fans’ feel played at all. I think some of the obsessive haters who will complain anyway, no matter HOW he did it, feel bitter towards him and Sophie, but again, they’ll complain either way. And those who thought they were the one feel betrayed that its not them.
I think that the majority of his ‘fans’ don’t care one way or the other. We don’t see any changes in him quite frankly. Yes he has changed his answers to some questions, but show me a person who is still giving the same soundbites over 10 years? But changes in demeanor? Nope.
Its so ridiculous to think that people who like him as an actor and person are so investing in whether or not he knocked up his girlfriend before a wedding, actually giving a frack. Most of us don’t.
Sorry delorb, but this is one fan who DOES feel played. I certainly never hated him and wasn’t expecting to chuck my hubby of 30 years to ride off into the sunset with BC either. I, (and others I know), bought what he was selling – that he was a funny, talented, nice guy who loves his work, enjoys his fans and was trying to find the right mix of fame and privacy. I haven’t always agreed with the way he handled everything, but I still held him in high regard nonetheless.
Since last Spring however, he’s gone from Mr. Privacy to Mr. PR (and grotesquely so) – “insider” leaks, blatant pap photo set ups, the (out of the blue) engagement announcement the WEEK before his Oscar-hopeful movie launched, parading the previously hidden fiance down red carpets everywhere, yet neglecting to have a stylist help dress her to minimize the (SURPRISE) baby-bump, (resulting in the need for) the announcement/confirmation of the pregnancy…
“Its so ridiculous to think that people who like him as an actor and person…” – it’s that “as a person” bit where your incredulity loses something. Frankly, if someone is a fan of him simply as “an actor”, they aren’t reading these “articles” at Celebitchy. If someone is “invested” enough to follow the personal stuff (and MANY MANY fans have been/still do), why is it strange that his complete 180 degree turn regarding private matters, odd statements & answers in interviews, and uncharacteristic behavior in general would be met with confusion and reactions from those fans? (Changes in demeanor? Yes, definitely.)
As for “most of us” not giving a “frack” (frack, really?), I would suggest that you speak only for yourself since (unless you personally are many…) “most” implies a quantity you can’t know.
Tagging on to what you said, ogg921 —
Anyone who gives two hoots about Ben’s private life is reading Celebitchy and the comments associated with his posts. They don’t just care about his work; they care enough about Ben “the person” to do it, but then insult those who take a different perspective on his public behavior/words. The condescension is unwarranted and it’s immature to call anyone who is critical of him “jealous”. The very assumption that they KNOW what drives the comments shows the double standard they employ. He’s a public figure and as such, open to scrutiny. This GOSSIP SITE is the perfect place to scrutinize and discuss wtf is going on with him.
It seems that in their mind, it’s only ok to comment if you have positive and agreeable things to say. You don’t question anything. You assume that he operates with the best of motives at all times. To me, that just reeks of naivety, to think that someone with fame and money and a buttload of ambition isn’t going to be tainted by it.
I don’t personally feel played, but I have seen way too many instances of where Ben says one thing and his actions reveal something else entirely. His modelizing back in 2013 after talking about wanting to settle down, have babies etc was when the cracks in the PR armor became apparent. Talking about wanting to slow down yet signing on with the Marvel machine is yet another instance. Letting his messy private life bleed all over his Oscar campaign after banging on about wanting to maintain privacy makes him look like a forked-tongued hypocrite. I may enjoy his work, but I won’t have the respect for him that I have for others whose public persona lines up with the public choices they make.
Of course everyone back at delorb’s natural habitat is *extremely* interested in Benedict’s private life, but will look at it only through rose-colored glasses. And if you dare to voice any other opinion they will turn on you like a pack of hyenas. So see, we are all judging strangers on the Internet after all
Here’s the thing I’m still stuck on if this is just an oops baby: her mother talking to tabloids in September. Anybody got any explanations for that?
It was mid-September IIRC, and Sophie was probably already pregnant by then
Thirsty to be the kris Jenner of edinburgh
Hey ladies, I was wondering if any of you had seen the instagram snaps from Soko’s theatre colleague about her being in London for a week in February.
She doesn’t flat out mention anyone’s name or the wedding but…food for thought.
@Wait: any number of reasons why Jessica could be in London for a week. She travels a lot. Have any of her other friends said anything about heading to London?
As far as I’ve seen, no.
But I’m one of the people who thinks they’ll be tying the knot soon so maybe I’m just reading things that way.
Anywho, I just thought I’d mention it since it didn’t seem to be here.
Wow!! Really… People are very invested in Benedict C. life choices. I wonder what would the reaction be if he was gay? Would the people here accept that. Or would they insist that they could change him?
If Bendy married Tom Hiddleston (wishes ) or some other cute and talented guy he was in love with, I’d be over the moon. Heck, if he married Olivia or Anna, I’d be happy. I’ve got a wait and see attitude about SH. Seems way too quick.
Meh. This is not really the fandom for homophobia. If you’re feeling curious, Google Johnlock (NSFW). Not my thing, but I’d embrace a gay Benedict who wasn’t effing up. Heck, I’m still a fan of his and kind of feel bad for him, but this craziness is pretty declasse. And I don’t mean getting pregnant out of wedlock.
Wow. The comments on this boring posting have been insane. Has anyone given any thoughts to the fact that the most prolific commentators here are nothing else but simply trolls…..? Just a thought.
You all know this is click bate? The more people that leave messages, the more money this site gets. This has nothing to do with Benedict. I think that Benedict should get a restraining order on some of these commenters. If I was him I would be very afraid.
@denise,
I think they know this, but they’re stuck in this weird cycle. ‘Gotta comment on Batch, even though I’ve told everyone how much I dislike him, so I shouldn’t comment on Batch, but I gotta comment on Batch, even though I’ve told everyone how much I dislike him, so I shouldn’t…’
So hilarious if it weren’t so predictable and boring. Shotgun marriage (in 2015?), getting married to someone they hate because of the baby (in 2015?). Getting married because some aging Oscar voting swinger who spent most of his time in the Playboy grotto, expects best actors nominees to be MARRIED damn it! Which doesn’t really explain Bradley Cooper who is dating a fetus, but I won’t bother them with trifles.