Yesterday, Kaiser linked to the story of Jimmy Fallon’s latest accident, which happened on Saturday night as Fallon celebrated some award from the Harvard Lampoon (which is the university’s humor mag). No one (not even Fallon) disputes how he was holding a bottle of Jaegermeister when he tripped (over a random girl) and fell. That stuff rocks your world, and this isn’t like Fallon hasn’t been similarly injured before. He nearly lost a finger a few months ago. People’s official word was that “everything is totally fine” because they were celebrating. He meant to be drunk while he was partying his butt off with a bunch of college kids who gave him an award (maybe so he’d drunkenly give them internships). That’s what these college awards usually are — a chance to rub drunk elbows with celebrities.
Fallon addressed the story on last night’s episode of The Tonight Show, and he stuck to the script because that was the script. He really was partying his tush off with college kids. Radar says that NBC and Lorne Michaels are very concerned and considering an intervention, but the source paints Fallon as a high-functioning drunk:
An insider told Radar that NBC Entertainment chief Bob Greenblatt and Tonight Show Executive Producer, Lorne Michaels, “have recently had several very frank and honest conversations about Jimmy. Lorne is extremely protective of Jimmy, obviously. Does Jimmy like to party and have a good time? Absolutely, and there late nights of going out with the crew after the show finishes taping, but it’s not every night.”
“Jimmy shows up for work, on time, and is always a professional,” the source continued, but there’s still growing concern. “The NBC family adores Jimmy, but Bob is monitoring the situation. If he needs to intervene, it will be done.”
As Radar reported, Fallon’s increasing clumsiness is starting to raise eyebrows. In his latest drinking-related incident, Fallon was in Cambridge, Massachusetts, this weekend accepting the Elmer Award for Excellence in Humor from the Harvard Lampoon when witnesses say that he tripped while holding a bottle of booze and sliced his hand.
“He was definitely drunk,” an eyewitness told Radar. “At first people thought it was a joke when he fell since he had hurt himself before. After he fell, the police helped him up. He immediately started yelling, ‘More Jaeger! More Jaeger!'” since he broke the bottle of Jaeger that he was carrying, the source continued. “Eventually someone brought him more Jaeger.”
Then a Fallon source is quoted as saying “Jimmy is totally fine.” Eh, I’m not really buying it, are you? When I say something is “fine” in relation to my health, I’m usually trying (and lying) to shut down the matter. No one is even arguing about how Fallon constantly hits the bottle, just that it’s okay. It’s FINE. I hope Fallon doesn’t seriously injure himself before he gets help. Playing ping pong other dumb games with celebrities may make Fallon want to drink, but it’s pretty obvious that there’s a deeper problem here.
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Hmmm if a woman were getting trashed all the time would people be fighting to keep her job for her or sell her out to tabs… hmmmm….
OMG, it’s not always us vs them! By all accounts (including her own), Chelsea Handler was trashed all. the. time. And she still managed to hold onto her show at E until SHE decided it was time to leave.
Sleeping with the boss did help.
THE WAY TO TELL IF YOU HAVE A DRINKING PROBLEM:
You have consequences to your drinking.
You fall, you neglect your wife and babies, you have car accidents, you hurt yourself, you hurt others, you miss work, your life is changed and interfered with because you’re drunk or recovering from being drunk.
Your personality changes, you have to lie to cover for your drinking, others have to cover for you, your life is not honest.
That’s a few consequences.
If Chelsea has these, then she has a problem too. But maybe she holds her liquor better than Jimmy does.
The difference is that he’s probably bringing in the ratings and the age demographic. They’re not saving him, they’re saving the network.
Chelsea boyfriend was the head Bitch in charge. That’s how she landed her job. Now if she was bringing in Kardashian ratings they would have worried about hee.
Not a fan of Fallon, but Chelsea Handler was a drunk booze whore for years before and will be years after her 15 minutes of fame are up. Also she used the drunken persona as her persona for television, stand up and her books, so she is not a appropriate comparable.
I don’t know where I’ve been because I had no idea he was such a partier. I know lots of people who haven’t seem to have outgrown their college drinking habits but not to the point of falling down repeatedly. That’s getting into Kennedy territory. Also the NBC execs sound extremely controlling, like this is something they can easily fix if they wish it to be so.
I don’t think the executives are controlling in this situation. JF has been causing serious issues due to his partying and it’s gotten to the point where they can’t control nee hide it anymore. Every time he has missed work or been ‘clumsy’ and broken something……partying!!! They are trying to do damage control here whereby they acknowledge that there is a problem, whilst minimising the damage and not hurting the brand which is doing so well for the ratings.
How is this controlling? He’s their employee. They have every right to be concerned as to whether or not he’ll be able to function in another six months. Besides, maybe Lorne Michaels is a good guy who is really is worried. Just run through a mental list of SNL cast members; it would only be the 900th time somebody would give him just cause. Forty-something is way too old to say you haven’t outgrown your collegiate behavior. Yech.
I don’t know, there was something about the tone that seemed less concerned for Fallon and more concerned for the network, a very businesslike/less than humane way of addressing an employee’s health problem. I’m sure I’m reading too much into it. And I do agree that Michaels has been down this road way too many times.
Isn’t the word on the street that he’s a lush and a cheater?
This behavior is so “Old School” Frank. He needs to grow up. He has a wife and baby at home, FFS.
He looks bloated and unhealthy.
There have been blind items about a host who’s a cheater,snoozer and treats their child like toxic waste because it was born not your average route.
No one have been named.
Lol snoozer? What is that? slang for drinker?
Actually Fallon was named by posters ad nauseum – like the only one it could have been about.
I think there is a lot more to Fallon than meets the eye. I am a fan. I think he is tremendously talented. That said, I sense there is a dark side as there seems to be with many comedians, especially male comedians. For some of them, many of them, when they’re on, they’re ON! But when they’re off, they aren’t just neutral, but dark. Obviously Jimmy was on at the college party, but word is he drinks aside from actual parties, is a cheater, and is emotionally abusive to his wife – apparently the focus being that she couldn’t conceive naturally, so they went the serrogate route. I don’t believe the baby is his, correct? Sperm donor or something? All I know is the blinds say he doesn’t love the baby and chastises his wife for having a baby that he says isnt’ even his. IDK. Just gossip, but sometimes there is a grain of truth to the blinds. I thought perhaps he didn’t bond with the child, but that doesn’t explain the cruelty toward his wife.
@JenniferJustice this comment made me feel so sad for everyone involved and really made me hope that none of these rumors are true.
I’m not particularly a big fan of Jimmy’s, but I’ve never disliked him, either, I’m just sort of neutral. I vaguely remember the fact that they used a surrogate but I was under the impression from what I’d read (and I could be wrong) that both daughters are his & his wife’s biological children; the surrogate carried the babies, but it was his sperm. Who knows, though. I just hope his wife and daughters are okay because regardless of what the truth is, it has got to be hurtful having these headlines out there about your very personal family issues.
Are these blinds from Blind Gossip? Or CDAN? When we cite them as evidence, I think it’s important to consider the source.
At this point it’s pretty obvious that the guy is a hard partyier (and big shock there, considering the SNL crowd). But it’s a big leap to go from functioning alcoholic/binge drinker to emotionally abusive a-hole.
Question… if his wife used a sperm donor, even though they used a surrogate, why is he snarking on her? Why use a donor if your sailors are viable? Or…
It’s about time.
I don’t care if he’s still showing up on time for work.
On the show, he often looks stoned out of his mind. On top of that, with all these “incidents” and spreading rumours, he’s not only harming his own reputation, he’s causing damage to the network.
He’s basically doing the bare minimum.
(…I can’t stand him even when sober)
Yeah, that first incident always seemed sketchy to me. Then this happened and I was suspiscious. There have been rumors of him being a trainwreck behind the scenes for years. High functioning alcoholics are a thing. They keep up with all their responsibilities, but when they have downtime they’re usually drunk as hell. Like, as soon as work is done, they run for the booze.
What an awful way to live. I can’t even imagine it.
I was in a bad relationship for a few years and it WAS an awful way to live. My ex not only abused booze (and other stuff) too often but he also was bipolar. I never knew what man I would come home to after work. The fear and sometimes even terror of trying to make a life with someone who won’t see that there is a problem eventually was more than I could deal with. No one should stay with an abuser….of drugs, of booze, of emotional attacks and, yeah, the top of the list is trying to fix someone who has threatened your life. And it isn’t just women. It goes both ways and it is NEVER.OKAY.EVER. If for no other reason, he needs to clean up his act for his children. It’s never their fault and they deserve an emotionally stable environment in which to live. So sad.
Well I don’t really know anything about Jimmy – he seems funny as hell and I think he likes to party and have fun. Nothing wrong with that as long as you take care of your business, your family, and yourself (well, he may be failing there) but to make something out him being clumsy can be just a stretch. Believe me, I know from personal experience. I am the worst!!! My husband (whom I’ve been married to for 21 years) has nick named me “Falls a lot”. He tells everyone that is my Indian name. At work several years ago I caught my wedding rings on the hardware to a door knob and nearly ripped my finger off and almost ruined my diamond engagement ring!! Hurt like hell. Then a few years later we were on our first day of vacation when I was just walking along at a fast clip and my foot turned sideways….I broke both the tibia and the fibula just above my ankle. I was not drinking or smoking herbs either of those instances. There are many more examples, and sometimes I was messed up but truth be told I am an accident waiting to happen and I have been all of my life! 🙂
I know a great deal about Jimmy and his partying ways from when I hung out with him a few times. But I like the guy, he was funny and down to earth. I will leave it at that.
I’m not saying that the reports are untrue, but I would be mortified if someone based my overall sobriety on meeting me a few of times at parties.
I agree 1000%!!! But don’t worry, they are “secretly” planing an intervention, so it’s all over the Internet. Jimmy will never know!! Smh….
Comments on every site called this long ago.
Jimmys not a very bright boy for going out in public pulling these stunts. Especially when everyone take cell phone pictures and send it to all the gossip sites.
Stay home and make a fool of yourself.
@Heat, not sure if that was directed at me but if it was let me say this. I didn’t just meet Jimmy at parties, we actually all got together and went out. BTW it wasn’t parties. I’ve been around Jimmy when he was completely sober as well as not. I had even been to his NY apartment. So I think that qualifies as more than just meeting someone at a party. And I wasn’t judging his sobriety.
@V4Real No – not a slam on you AT ALL. 🙂 I was just thinking back to a couple of fundraisers that I attended in the past where, if I were being solely judged on my behavior there, I would be greatly embarrassed.
I was not aware of how close you have been to JF, so I can’t judge.
@Heat, my bad and I apologize. I also understand what you’re saying by people judging someone by what they see at a gathering.
@Heat I agree with your sentiment completely, but as someone who knows a few people who work at NBC, the after parties are notoriously completely out of control with most people so high and/or drunk that they can barely see straight, stumbling into cars home after dawn, all season long. This has been the case for decades. It’s practically a trademark of the show at this point, but when you look back at how many SNL stars have been casualties of overdoses, etc., I’m surprised it continues to be sanctioned by the network. But it does. Lorne Michaels has already buried far too many colleagues IMO but I don’t know how many it will take before something changes at that studio.
Is it just me or is he starting to look more and more like Nigel Farage ? Maybe it’s the drinking stories that have led my mind there.
Hmmm, now that you mention it…
I’ll be very sad if this is true. I like him so much!
Same here. He’s so likeable and seems so down to earth.
I never drink and I’m a total accident-prone klutz. I would hate to think people thought I was drunk every time I fell or hurt myself (which is much more often that Jimmy’s been reported hurt.) I hope he’s just clumsy like me.
Huh, I think this clip just made it more obvious that he has a problem and he/NBC are in PR mode to cover it up.
He takes quite a bit of time and detail to explain what amounts to “nothing to see here folks, just two small band-aids and the Jagermeister bottle in my hand was for the band, not me!” And then quickly pivots without context to talking about his kids and showing a cute video of his 10 month old. Nothing like a little family deflection. He even wore his kids’ band-aids.
I hope they focus on getting him help for whatever he is dealing with. Clearly there is something amiss.
Yep, this is beyond lame.
I can’t believe they’re THAT shameless.
NO ONE with *at least* a low slash average I.Q. is buying it, Jimmy!
the whole children thing made me angry. its so obvious.
I agree with this because like you said its just two small band-aids. Why is he even making a statement about it ? Unless he/NBC wants to get his side of the story out first.
Ew I dont like someone who uses their kids as a coverup for a personal mishap. That’s just slimy…Going to keep my eye on this story.
Yup, it’s gross. No matter what happened, please don’t deflect attention to small children. FFS
This has been talked about *for years*. I had a little crush on the guy way back in 200-2001 and remember reading how wasted he would get at the after show parties. People on other gossip sites always said he was an alcoholic/addict. So none of this is a surprise to me.
I think he always seemed to me like he was covering up his true self, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he was drinking as a form of escapism from the grind of his ongoing performance of his “I’m just a nice guy who’s super stoked that he gets to do his dream job” act.
That’s an interesting observation. I haven’t followed him closely lately but he always struck me as pretty genuine. His show, though, seems full of contrived schtick, not natural or organic, as far as the way it flows, at all. Maybe he is feeling really constrained.
ESMOM, yes! That is it exactly. I never bought him as thrilled to be the TS host even though it is certainly a prestigious gig, he does not seem genuine in the role.
renee2 and Esmom – when he first started on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, his personality was infectious and his approach was kinda refreshing. He was funny, had funny pre-taped bits and when he had famous celebrities show a “not so serious side” by partaking in games/challenges, it was entertaining.
But since the move to The Tonight Show, yes, it ALL seems like contrived shtick to me. The program has become mostly “Welcome to the Wacky World of Celebrities playing Silly Games”. It is almost cynical how the program mimics itself over and over. I realize it still is a top the ratings and many still enjoy it, but for me, the program has become uninspired and his whole behavior seems so forced.
Maybe that is a reflection of his struggle and producers creating a structure that he can “function” in day-to-day. Or maybe his struggles are increasing because of the grind of churning out the same stuff over and over.
I never found him funny as a talk show host. He fawns over celebrities way, way too much and ins’t funny at all.
Franca – you are right in how much he fawns over the celebrities. It is annoying.
While certainly not my favorite, I do feel he has his funny moments. I liked him on SNL Weekend Update and IMO he’s put out some funny things on his late night shows. But it is all pretty stale now.
mia girl: “Maybe that is a reflection of his struggle and producers creating a structure that he can “function” in day-to-day. Or maybe his struggles are increasing because of the grind of churning out the same stuff over and over.”
A chicken or egg thing. Either scenario seems plausible. Sad, I really had no idea since I haven’t watched his new show. I’ve only seen the odd clip here or there.
MIA GIRL that was a great way of wording it. I think that somehow we will all know soon enough what’s going on with him; this isn’t the type of behavior that he can sustain for TOO long in such a public position. Even if he is aided by NBC to protect the image of their show, it seems to me he’s on the verge of some sort of breaking point.
I hope he’s okay. And if he isn’t, then I hope he gets help.
Someone who is “totally fine” does not end up in the ER at Mass General getting stitches after falling down drunk just months after another incident that resulted in an injury requiring hospitalization after falling down drunk.
He didn’t fall down drunk. He was gifting a bottle of alcohol to the guest of the night and tripped on a girl who was kneeling in front of him with a rose. He didn’t see her nor was he told she would be kneeling there. He seems fine to me. I don’t believe any of the b.s. stories. He was forced to go to the hospital because the EMT thought glass might have been in his finger, but turned out there wasn’t and all he needed was a band-aid. Now imagine the media reporting on you every time you used a band-aid lol. It’s a slow news week so this has become a way bigger story than it should be.
I have to laugh because that story about how he got injured sound so made up its not even funny.
@ Neah23…there was a camera there. It’s all on film.
There’s a saying that always stuck with me as an alchy:
“It’s not that every time you drink something bad happens
But, when something bad does happen, was there drinking involved”
I like that. I wish I’d heard that decades ago when my roommate’s boyfriend was out of control. She constantly made excuses that he had a job and never missed work…and I would say something like people who don’t have a drinking problem don’t start fights in bars and break windows with their bare hands. She eventually got it but not without a ton of heartache.
My grandfather used to say, “If a person has to even ask himself if he has a drinking problem, he has a drinking problem.”
He has two very, very young kids. I hope whatever is going on with him gets better, because they need their dad to be present and healthy.
He often looks buzzed to me on his show. And he is always SOOOO hyper, like ultra-hyper (maybe pills too?). I do sense something happening here.
Doesn’t he have 2 small children now??!! Why no mention of his wife and family??? If this was a female celeb, that would be the ENTIRE angle of these whispers, absent/party parenting, ect. but being a dude, it’s more like “oh that Jimmy, he likes to have too much fun, oh well!!”.
If you look at him 10 years ago he was so pretty. Usually heavy drinking can lead not aging too well. But I don’t want to make assumptions. If it was that much of a problem I feel like it would be very obvious on the show
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but why always the fingers? even if he is super stoned/high/drunk all the time, why always the fingers?
Casualty in the drunken fall…when ppl fall the first thing down are the hands to catch falls…
Soon it will be the classic Colles fracture which happens when you fall and put your hand out to save yourself, so it will be a full arm plaster cast next time. Maybe he should take a lesson from Graham Norton as to how to be a serious drinker, and yet host an actually funny, and popular talk show. The old tell a few jokes, and play a few games formula is so worn out. Why do they continue to flog this tired cliche of a program. Is the watching public so easily entertained?
They should, because if he’s an alcoholic, he’s clearly TERRIBLE at it.
It’s so funny, because until recently I never had the feeling he was a drunk or drinker. I know everyone likes to party some times and have a good time, but he never looks puffy or carrying luggage under his eyes. But after this story and a few others, just maybe he is partying a bit much. Why does he keep hurting himself? Maybe he’s blacking out and still able to function but is accident prone? Hmmmm.
A high-functioning alcoholic is still an alcoholic.
^^^ THIS. Exactly. This is why ACOA – Adult Children of Alcoholics – exists. Even high-functioning alcoholics cause unbelievable damage to their kids, that continues through adulthood.
It is staggering how much they impact their kids, who don’t see it BECAUSE the parent is “high-functioning”. Maybe years later they’ll learn that all their odd quirks, issues & insecurities are the entire checklist of ACOA….relief to understand why you’re that way, but sad to realize it’s from living with an addict.
Leaving a high-functioning alcoholic alone is not just harmful to them, but a life-sentence to their children.
He’ll behead himself if this behavior continues.
Hmm on one of the other boards (Jezebel or JustJared) almost every single commented pointed to coke use and some guessed coke + liquor. Which would explain how hyped he is for the shows and then needs to drink to come down after. All speculation of course, but the rumors are ugly. I’m not envious of his wife at the moment.
I watch his show and have never once seen him drunk on it, not once. So I don’t think his job is in danger at all. It’s a hit show. If he drinks a lot it’s after work hours, I don’t see an intervention by studio execs, because it hasn’t carried it over into his show. More than anything he should do it for his kids.
By the way, I’ve had many embarrassing trip and falls, one at home just like him where my foot caught in my pajama bottoms and literally propelled me to the point where the side of my face hit the corner of a table and the whole side of my face was swollen and bruised the next day so bad that makeup couldn’t hide it. It looked like I had been beaten up. And I was so embarrassed a month ago. I was outside carrying something and my ankle turned over and I landed flat on the ground spraining my ankle, hurting my knee and wrist, and my head hit a low brick wall around our flowers. I was humiliated, not drunk. LOL
I don’t discount that he drinks. I just don’t think it’s spilled over into his career YET. He won’t do it until he’s ready. And it doesn’t necessarily mean that either or both of his falls had anything to do with his drinking. I think people are just jumping on that as proof when the trips could have nothing to do with drinking.
Johnny Carson drank his whole career. He could be a very mean drunk. But his show was never affected by it. His relationships were, though.
David Letterman has said he was n alcoholic. He drank from the early years of his life up through the early stages of his career on late night on NBC.
“He said he started drinking when he was 11, and kept it up through college and into his TV career.”
“And I drank right through ’till I was 34,” he told Pauley. “And I had the show at NBC and I just said to myself, ‘You’re a fool, you’re a dumb fool. You can’t do this. You know, they just don’t give these shows to everybody. You have one. And you drink yourself into trouble, you’re done, pal!’
“And I just quit. Never took another drink.”
Many high-functioning alcoholics never show outward symptoms of drunkeness.
Ack! My comment was eaten by the mods filter. But he has a long history of binge drinking according to an article I shared last night on the previous Fallon story; google the Vulture article where Horatio Sanz talked about them both being “high-functioning alcoholics” on SNL and how they got into bar fights with poor random strangers. Jimmy Fallon actually poured beer on guys and punched people! Doesn’t jive with his nice guy image at all.
So much of this stuff is an illusion anyway–I wonder how much time he spends with his kids, since other TV hosts (David Letterman, Matt Lauer) supposedly parked their kids and wives in the suburbs and stayed at their NYC apts. during the week. They talked about Letterman staying in the city Mon-Thurs. on a CBS special about his final episode; he only saw his son on weekends.
Here’s the relevant quote:
“Healthy” is not an adjective that would have described Fallon during SNL. “Everyone in New York has a Jimmy Fallon story,” says Seth Herzog, his good friend and Late Night’s warm-up comic. “It’s always like, ‘In 2000, Jimmy threw this dude out of a bar, or poured his beer on someone, or got on a table and sang a song.’ ”
“We were super-functioning alcoholics, definitely,” says Horatio Sanz, Fallon’s SNL cast mate and drinking buddy. “They say that kind of goes hand in hand with SNL, some kind of substance-abuse issues, because it’s so stressful you easily find yourself blowing off steam a lot.” Niagara in the East Village was another favorite; Sanz once demanded a margarita in the biggest glass the bar had, which turned out to be a vase, and woke up on the sidewalk in front of his apartment. “Yeah, we got in a couple of brawls,” says Sanz. “I’ve seen Jimmy clock a few people.” Sanz’s favorite fight happened at another haunt, Peter McManus Cafe on 19th Street. Fallon started pouring a beer on someone’s hat, thinking it belonged to Sanz’s friend. “The owner of the hat, we didn’t know who he was, said something like, ‘What the #$% are you guys doing?’ and Jimmy just punched him. He wasn’t that hurt; he just walked into a tornado of drunken stupidity. Yeah, Jimmy could fight. I don’t know where he learned, but he definitely scrapped with the best of them.”
OMG what an a-hole.
I’ve never cared for him anyway – I stopped watching SNL when it kind of became the Jimmy Fallon show.
I always wondered why he always had Lindsay Lohan on his show when she was poison everywhere else. Now I understand.
Yes! Way before I knew about his partying I remember Lindsay would often mention how they were friends and I wondered what they could possibly have in common.
I hope the tripping is actually due to drinking because it could also be a symptom of something far more serious. Sometimes it can be an early sign of ALS. I hope and pray that is not the case, but don’t be so quick to judge. It could be he would have been falling with or without liquor.
FWIW I used to live not far away from his hometown and have known some people that he grew up with. None of them have ever said a word about him partying etc but on the other hand most of the guys that knew him are cokeheads and hard drinkers. I am guessing that’s just the way he grew up and he was always high functioning enough to keep it going until now.
or maybe he is just clumsy… i find it hard to accept that he has never shown up drunk fr a show or paparazzi have never caught him slumped on the street – you can get away with hiding alcoholism for so long but eventually it outs, and 2 incidents of hurting his fingers is not enough ‘proof’ – i mean we saw video of his last fall – he tripped over somebody. Yeah he was probably well-oiled but if the girl wasn’t in his way he would have been fine.
I am thinking of a few years ago when me and an old school friend finally arranged to meet up as we were living in the same city. Her boyfriend and her collected me and just as the car pulled off leaving us to go into our fancy restaurant i (not looking where i was going) tripped on the kerb and smacked down on the ground. I was lucky i didn’t lose my front teeth. My knees were in shreds but i pretended i was ok – half due to embarrassment and half as to not ruin the night.
These things happen.
Yeah. Probably not clumsy when it has happened 3 times in the last year…..probably substance abuse.
It’s sad, because he’s reached such a point of success in his career and personal life but yet he’s willing to risk it all for the party? There’s a sense of power that comes with all the ego stroking he’s been getting since becoming host of The Tonight Show, and he could be falling prey to this. For his family’s sake, I genuinely hope not.
He sends my creepometer through the roof. There’s something about him that I can’t put my finger on.
Anyone who idolizes Justin Timberlake the way he does, obviously has issues.
they need to intervene by replacing him with someone funny
so interesting because I’ve always thought he is just about the most squeaky-clean performer out there, that there’s nothing to not love about him. I’m going to reserve judgment here until we have all the facts. I don’t think any of us can know for sure.
I’m with you MOLLYO. I’m actually quite shocked to read all these comments. I’ve always liked him lots and still do.