I honestly don’t “hate” Kim Kardashian and Kanye West’s baby name. Saint West is a silly name, for sure, but… what were people expecting? Honestly? These people named their daughter North West, a name which… I have to admit, it’s grown on me. Saint West will probably grow on me too. I guess because my expectations were so low, I was unperturbed by the choice of Saint West. It seriously could have been so much worse. Anyway, E! News has some details about why Kim and Kanye chose “Saint” for their baby boy.
How did the duo decided on Saint for their son’s name? Well, a source tells E! News that Kim’s highly publicized, rocky pregnancy was one of the biggest influences in choosing their baby boy’s moniker.
Our insider shared that Saint was picked since it’s akin to saying he is “a blessing,” especially “because she had such a difficult pregnancy.”
Which is better: Blessing West or Saint West? I understand the idea of wanting to honor the child by saying he’s a blessing or whatever. But that’s why many parents do the research on baby names to find the ones meaning “blessing” or “blessed.” Speaking of Kim’s difficulties, People Magazine had a little bit more about Kim’s difficult labor. It includes possibly the worst sentence I’ve ever read about labor.
A source tells PEOPLE Kardashian West, 35, suffered from placenta accreta, the same condition she experienced during her first pregnancy with daughter North, now 2.
“She had a really tough birth because of the issues with her placenta,” the source says.
Placenta accreta occurs when blood vessels and other parts of the placenta grow too deeply into the uterine wall and remain attached. Though typically a woman’s placenta is delivered following the birth of the baby, in the case of North, Kardashian West’s placenta did not detach. As result of the high-risk condition, a doctor had to scrape it out by hand.
“A doctor had to scrape it out by hand…” Yeah, NO. It strikes me that Kim believes that she is the one who should be canonized for what she went through with this pregnancy. Like, she believes she’s Saint Kim, but she’s not going to change HER name, so they just named the baby Saint.
Last thing… TMZ says that Kim and Kanye didn’t allow any cameras in the delivery room. Considering the birth apparently took “hours” and doctors were “scraping” the placenta out of her body, I think we should all thank Yeezus for small mercies. And once again, sources insist that Kim and Kanye are determined to not include Saint in any of the family’s reality shows. TMZ says: “We’re told the plan is to keep the baby off all shows until he develops an awareness. K&K kept North off TV for the first year of her life, and then only allowed her to appear on “special episodes” where the filming environment was tightly controlled.” We’ll see. I would suspect that these words are being said for Kanye’s benefit, because he’s all about limiting access to his kids… until he isn’t. Kim always wants to show off her babies, and I think she wins a lot of those arguments with Kanye.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
So Miracle, rather than Saint? However, congrats on their healthy baby.
You know…I think this is the only time I actually “get” anything this woman says. A person who I think is kind of a waste of space. BUT… my child number 2 was breech very far into my pregnancy (like 8 months) and we had two names picked out. One…which my husband liked but I found “hard”, the other which I liked and was somewhat along the lines of saintly/biblical/angelic. Finally agreed that if the baby remained breech, It would be the “hard” name. If not, the somewhat saintly name. 3 days later, the baby turned head down all by itself. It could very well be that the thought process may have been similar.
I kind of shudder to actually have to say I might have something in common with this person. 🙁
Glad that her baby is healthy. And I think it was a great thing for her to be open about her difficulties getting pregnant and also the specific problems anticipated for this pregnancy.
I feel fortunate that we live in an age where women are more open about fertility and pregnancy issues. It must have been terrifying and lonely for women in the past to feel as though they had to tough it out, especially if there was a high risk of complication.
I know it’s very popular to hate on Kim Kardashian and her family, but I never have the energy to actively dislike them. And while I think Kim is so unacceptably harsh and unkind to her little brother (who is clearly struggling), she clearly and genuinely loves her husband and her daughter (and will be to her son). I hope she stops being terrible to her younger brother, though. It’s so needlessly cruel.
After watching Kim in action for years, I’m not sure that she’s capable of loving. There is something missing in her. Very likely this is at least partially due to damage done by Demon Mother in Kim’s childhood. It’s more than just being pathologically self-absorbed. She has been focused on fame since she was quite young, and she uses people to get it. But I’m not sure that she even loved Reggie, although she very much liked being associated with him. She kept doing things to use him to increase her own fame that clearly bothered Reggie, and chose the cameras over him. Similarly, she likes being associated with Kanye but there seems to be no passion between them.
I think Nori’s odd reactions to Kim over her short life (similar to what we see in her nephew Mason and niece Penelope) have been in response to that deep coldness she picks up from Kim, in addition to the lack of sufficient contact for much of her life. Kim got more interested in being around Nori when the child became more conventionally attractive and started getting a lot of attention in pics – so once again, she sees Nori in terms of what Nori can do for Kim. If they weren’t rich and able to hire nannies and had no other more nurturing family around to fill the voids, Nori would be in foster care by now (or dead), because that’s what can happen to children with only a detached mother as caregiver. I doubt things will be different with the boy, although maybe Kim has learned that babies can’t act and need contact with her if they are going to seem comfortable with her in public. Or maybe she really will relate better to a boy than a girl, as others speculated a long time ago (no competition?). But heaven help this child if Kim thinks he isn’t attractive, as I suspect she felt about Nori in the beginning.
I like the name SAINT
Oh my God, I know I clicked on it, but if I hear one more word about how terrible, difficult, extraordinary and horrifying her pregnancy was, I may just keel over. My admiration for all pregnant women who don’t spend the entire nine months whining and moaning and groaning has exploded. You are my heroines, forever and I love you.
Here here sister!
I was in Trader Joe’s yesterday, and a woman cashier asked the preganant woman at checkout if she was due last month. I hightailed it out of there, half expecting to get caught in a crime scene. The woman was trying to be funny and make chitchat, but my own hackles were up on that one. Mind your Hawaiian-shirt-wearing business!
I swear, that is definitely TMI. I’m literally shuddering from the “scraping by hand” bit. No … just, no!
My sister had that done, the epidural had worn off and it wouldn’t detatch so the doctor worth monster hands put one up there and pulled and scraped, she said it was horrific
This happened to me with my first pregnancy, but thanks to an epidural, I didn’t feel a thing. Didn’t happen with my second, though, and the doctor told me (before he was born) that it was unlikely that it would. So, I feel like MAYBE she is exaggerating the “high-risk” part. Pre-eclampsia is a much bigger issue. That said, I did hate being pregnant both times, so I actually sympathize with KK on this.
I rolled my eyes so hard at the headline alone. FFS Kim, you are the first woman in history to have a difficult pregnancy.
Thank you! I’m sure there are women out there that have gone through worse and probably didn’t have the accommodations this woman hashas so spare us with your whiney self-pity explanations
Having a baby is a blessing and we should leave it at that. Considering how supposedly this baby was conceived, I don’t feel sorry at all. I’m glad her baby is OK and that’s as far I go.
My pregnancy was not bad and I won’t make comparisons but I’m sure some ladies here will agree with me, yes complications arise and the fear is always there but I’m sorry I will sympathize in someone else, not a woman who chose to get pregnant just to have a boy and the bitch about it all the way through
Seriously, it’s getting to the point where I’m just eyerolling now, whereas before I might have had a wee bit of sympathy for her.
I actually don’t hate the name Saint, but if she has to tack on an elaborate explanation about how hard the pregnancy was and how he’s such a blessing because bla bla bla, I might end up loathing it.
Same here!
“Next season on the Kardashians, Saint Kim talks about how difficult pregnancy was for her & only her. No one else has experienced what she has because she’s unique & a special snowflake”
Now, now. If a girl wants a massive, tacky diamond choker as a “push present”, she’d be dumb not to underline all the horrors she’s supposedly gone through, right?
Absolutely agree! She had standard pregnancy – no bed rest or hospitalizations – and then a D&C after the birth, which is an extremely common procedure that they knock you out for. Mine was a piece of cake, although it revealed that I had uterine cancer. That would REALLY give her something to complain about. Shut up, Saint Kim – and go visit the hospital someday.
That had to have been scary, Belle Epoch! Hope all is well with you!
@Belle I hope everything is good with you. I can’t imagine how to even deal with the emotional part of your ordeal and yet this stupid woman and her idiot husband who thinks he’s an incarnation of Jesus, believe they are the only couple in this planet that’s had a difficult childbirth
I’m with you! My sons name means blessed and I knew that when we named him. Saint is not a name, it’s an adjective to describe someone with holiness or godliness this child has a lot to live up to and sadly I don’t think he really has a chance.
Right? Was she put on bedrest? Hospitalized? NO. Her pregnancy was “difficult”, because she wore tight clothes, heels and flew all over the world! She made it worse for herself. I have no pity for this woman who lies about everything.
“A doctor had to scrape it out by hand…”
*internal screaming*
I REALLY need to stop reading about stuff like this
Happens all the time. Child birth is brutal. Kim isn’t the first person to have to endure the trauma
Oh, yeah? I have never heard about it from another woman personally. They all shut up about the birth and just show around the boring baby.
Forget internal screaming, I may scream out loud. Yikes!
No I get that, but this particular nugget is new to me despite hearing an array of horror stories from friends and family but when you have it facing you in the near future, this particular one….. Nope.
I think that procedure is quite similar to a curettage, which is not uncommon. I sounds worse than it is
“We’re told the plan is to keep the baby off all shows until he develops an awareness.” Well, if having any kind of awareness was a prerequisite for being on TV, none of the Kardashian-Jenners would ever be on!
+Infinity!
If he follows in his family’s footsteps, he’ll never develop an awareness other than an awareness of where the cameras are so he can pose his saintly little heart out.
Translation: “We plan on keeping the baby off all shows until he’s cute enough.”
+1
Even now North isn’t shown as much on the show. You can hear her laugh or they talk about her, but the camera rarely shows her, just P and Mason and sometimes Reign. Maybe Kanye controls things more than Kim wants to let people think.
And if they do show her, its from the side or from the back, never a straight-on face shot.
All I can think of is Kathryn and Thomas from Southern Charm naming their son Saint something first, but it was a family name. That was really the first time I heard the name, but I kind of like it.
I was thinking that the name Saint is not all *that* bad considering we know people who have named their kids the French equivalent of “Dragonfly” and “Vanilla” (as first names).
Oh please! Like her birth experiences were more horrendous then other women?
In late September, my daughter “died” because the placenta blood entered her blood stream and stopped her blood from clotting. Her heart started beating again on its on – after needing all the blood a major hospital in the area had in store. She was very brave after being in ICU for 3 days. She said that she didn’t want any PTSD from having had the experience, and does’t want to talk about it too much – she just wants to live in the joy of her daughter’s birth, and she is nursing her baby. For myself, I try not to think further than gratitudes…we all love her so much. Healthy mother, and healthy baby, and that’s the end of it. There is only joy for us now – no complaints at all.
Kim K is out of touch with reality so much so that she thinks any adversity is “horrible” and “tragic”. People like her could never survive what your daughter did and go on with their lives.
Prayers for continued health for your daughter and grandbaby!
(((Wolfie)))) all good wishes and prayers for your daughter and baby!!
Blessings sent to you, and your family. I am so very glad for that they all are healthy.
Thank you!
Sad when even your child’s name has to be a PR stunt. And I can’t believe a single person is buying this crap about a “difficult pregnancy.” Have we really become that flippin’ dense as a society?
Yes.
I don’t believe anything she says and when she started blithering away about how the doctor ‘scraped her uterus with his fingernails’ she doesn’t only show how stupid she is but also she thinks we all are.
I think the name is after Yves Saint Laurent. her choosing a name after a Haute couture brand rather than an actual miracle baby is much more believable.
They’re probably going to call him with the french pronunciation (because they’re like, You know such like jet setters and Paris is now like our home like) rather than the english one and i wouldn’t be surprised one bit if his second name was Riccardo.
Saint Riccardo West.
I’d have called him Konque.
Konque West sounds amazing to me.
It would show some personality.
LOL
But does Kim actually know the French pronunciation of “saint”? The “ai” sound is closer to the English “a” in “ant” or “pants” and the “nt” isn’t exactly pronounced although it affects the nasal way the vowel is said. A lot of people say something like “sahnt” in English for the French “saint” in names like “Saint Laurent” and pronounce the final “nt” in “Laurent”, which isn’t the French pronunciation. There’s nothing wrong with adapting foreign sounds to the set of sounds available in your own language, but the result is often quite different than in the original language. I suspect she intends to use the English pronunciation of Saint, though, and thinks of it as an English word.
Blessing West would fit much better to her Instagram captions. #blessed
To be honest: We expected something tacky and we got something tacky. No surprise here!
I just wish they’d stop over-using the word “blessed”. Just like everything else about his family, over-using that word makes it sound so incredibly fake. She hated every moment of this pregnancy, looked ridiculous thoughout it and now let her idiot husband choose a ridiculous PR-ready name for their son. And all for a contractual obligation. Kim should just go away already and live her life quietly and actually raise her kids under some normal circumstances. I feel so sorry for that little boy for having those delusional a**holes for parents and he’s only a few days old.
Kim go away and live her life quietly? She breathes attention and is willing to sacrifice everything to staying relevant. Her face, her kids, her dignity (not that she had much to begin with). She is going to famewhore as long as she breathes.
Agree on feeling sorry for the little baby who is going to be used shamelessly for publicity just like they do with little North.
Could be worse. She could have named him “Bible West”. Or if Kanye would allow a middle name “Like Bible West”.
From a quick google search, there are so many names meaning blessing/blessed. One is Gwyneth. That certainly makes sense.
Ha! We named our daughter Gwyneth for this ( and other) reasons-
I named my son, Nathanael – which means “gift from God” – and then I got to hug him for years and tell him so.
Exactly Wolfie, spawn’s middle name is “Matthew”, which also means gift from God… plus it was the first crush I ever had’s real name 🙂
She had to come up with some valuable excuse to justify her baby name.
Fine Kim. You can all the attention.
Good Saint.
Of course she wants to show off her kids. That’s the reason she had them. Everything is marketing and branding with these two.
Please. I’m willing to bet the name had more to do with her than with her kid. And considering what a messiah complex her husband has, it is hardly a surprise.
Totally agree – it’s the closest she could come to changing her own name to Saint. Or maybe they’re planning to canonize him through PMK’s “church.”
And I keep thinking of Saint Elsewhere. It’s still directional!
I’m too distracted by the state of Kanye in that lead photo – why doesn’t he realise he looks like a effing idiot dressed like that?!?!?!?! (As for the baby name, my instant reaction was ‘of course it is’ followed by ‘meh’)
I don’t believe a word out of her mouth.
I don’t believe she had “fertility problems,” a horribly complicated pregnancy, a horrible birth.
She may have had problems here and there, but nothing that any competent Doctor couldn’t treat.
That family lies and exaggerates.
I’m with you.
i just… can’t stop picturing Adele’s accent in a conversation like
“so have you heard Kanye and Kim’s new son’s name?”
“not yet”
“well…. it’s Saint West”
“well if it’s ain’t West, oo’s ‘e then?”
LOL! So crafty!
How odd for a woman who has no moral compass whatsoever to name her child Saint.
Well, her mom does own a church (tax dodge?) of her very very own to support her own very religious lifestyle.* Maybe since he is just a boy in the female-first Kardashian world, they will assign him to promoting THAT instead of the usual Kris’s Klub products, even though his father will see him as a ray of light emanating from his own modern Jesus self.. *sarcasm
For someone who had a difficult pregnancy Kim sure traveled a lot and was constantly our and about. As far as the scraping, I wonder if it wasn’t a D&C as opposed to the dr’s using his hand? Also I’m surprised if it was that bad that a hysterectomy wasn’t done. Dofor then’t know how much of this is hype. After all it is from those mysterious sources. ROL had a story about them fighting over how to present the first photos. Kim wants a mag spread for the money and Kanye wants something artistic.
Saint? Hahahahahah! I don’t normally comment on KK related posts. But this one, this one, hahahahah! Just when you thought they couldn’t top ‘North’, they gave you ‘Saint.’ Poor kids. They probably don’t care about their children getting laughed at growing up, or wait, their kids are not going to school, are they?
What in Homeless Hipster Hell is he wearing in that top photo?
Because she thinks she should be sainted for having a “difficult” pregnancy? How about all the moms of micropremies who were on bed rest and medication to keep from delivering their babies early without success? How about all the moms with hyperemesis gravidarum that literally threw up constantly for weeks on end and could barely function?
How difficult was her pregnancy really if she was all over the place and dressing her bump like an unsupervised teenager?
Saint???!!! I mean, seriously…her stupid explanation on this horrible moniker doesn’t make sense (big shock). This kid can go on and get in the Special Snowflake line…ugh…one more person born in the world who is told he is special merely for breathing.
100 Cara: North and Saint aren’t names, they’re words. Everyone calls the girl Northwest as predicted and am sure she will get compassed in the future. And the kid….yipes what kind of douchebag walks around with the name saint. It’s pretentious and again isn’t a name. Talk about a Freudian slip, come on, everyone knows Reggie was the love of Kimmie’s life and he played for the Saints. Good one Kim, sure Kanye was excited when the Saints thanked her publically…..lol
LOL yeah the Saint’s tweeted her and said thank you ! Hey remember when Reggie and the Saints won the Superbowl? Kim was on the field getting as much camera time as she could and even sat next to Reggie during his post interview. Uggh.
I’m betting the horrific ‘hand scraping’ term, to make it sound worse than anybody else in history, is known to us lowly people as a D&C. Most women forget all about the pregnancy and delivery with the joy of their miracle baby, but not Kim. Everyone in this family is so self absorbed!
It seems that if Kim wanted to name her baby because of her difficult pregnancy, a more fitting name would be Ouch West! Or Placenta Acrceta West…that sounds so fancy!!!!
Or Never Again..could’ve been called Nev, which isn’t so bad..can you imagine other little kids calling him Saint??? Will they put his likeness on a medallion and sell it at dash?
As the Internet informs me Pete wentz named his son Saint wentz a year ago, so there will be a saint wentz and a saint west walking around the streets of Hollywood soon.
Duh, yeah, Saint and blessing are so closely related in meaning. Moron.
This is about being a narcissist and nothing more. Shut it up and shut it down, and that goes for the entire family.
Oh yes, such a horribly difficult pregnancy in which she got dressed up every day and walked around in sky high heels and went jet setting. Sounds just like the millions of women who are on bed rest for their entire pregnancies and are restricted from doing almost everything, even getting up to go to the bathroom. Suck it with your bullshit already.
She had a difficult pregnancy because she got fat. I know women who are bed ridden at 6 months. Kim is looking for a good explanation of an awful name.
I thought it amusing that their statement had to include the information that after the birth she lost her appetite!
Don’t know about anyone else but I was STARVING after I had my daughters.
Yes, Wolfe, the “losing the appetite” statement got me, too. As soon as I had all my kids, I told the nurses I could murder a big cup of tea. They said, “Sure, no problem. We’ll arrange that.” And I said, “And bring bikkies to dip. Lots of bikkies.” But that’s just me… She probably said that to cover up the lipo and tummy tuck. I wouldn’t put anything past her.
I was fortunate enough to have my baby in 3 hours. When I read that last sentence I automatically went into the fetal position. Ugh.
Better names:
Entitled West
Narcissus West
Emotional Orphan West
Accessory West
CanILivewithnanny West
Oh god , Kim, just shut the h3ll up already.
My attention was caught by the photo at the top. Kanye looks homeless. Seriously, I”ve seen homeless people who look just about the same. And Kim…….well, Kim. If you didn’t know who the two of then are you’d wonder what was wrong with them. Well, we do, but I mean *really* wonder.
Kim just called, she asked: “What is a moral commpass, what color is it?”
They kept her off the show but use her for photo ops ad nauseum, practically daily, it seems. Who are they fooling that they are so noble by keeping them off the reality show?
Saint has nothing to do with being a blessing.
Gauche West
Oof I don’t like Kim but that sounds brutal. I feel bad for any mother that has a rough birth/pregnancy
Side note did you guys see the tweet from someone 6 months ago predicting the Saint West name? Hysterical
Kanye is trolling us with his wardrobe. He dresses like a homeless person most of the time. Why would anyone want to look like that??? I don’t mind the name Saint it could’ve been worse. Like they could’ve named him Yeezus.
ITA on both counts, Defaultgirl. Kanye does look like crap most of the time! And considering it’s these two, Saint isn’t *THAT* bad. I was expecting something sillier.
Can’t fool us Kim. You know you named your son Saint because you still miss your ex Reggie Bush who played football for the New Orleans Saints from 2006-2010…*sarcasm, and major eye roll*
How do you make your front blue on this site?
Does Reggie Bush still play for the Saints?
@Milo, he’s with the San Francisco 49ers. 🙂
He was traded to the Detroit Lions and then traded again to the 49ers. I think he’s happy being back in Cali where he’s from. He was flying every week back home to Cali to see his wife and kids from Detroit.
I think Kim believes she is the Saint for allowing herself to be pregnant again. Saint Kim, offering her blessings to the world …. so giving, this one!
Yeah and she’ll be throwing that in Kanye’s face for the rest of his life.
I too had a horrific labor and delivery. I ended up with a broken pelvis, massive tear and thankfully a healthy baby. When it was over the doctor commented that she hoped it wasn’t so traumatic that I decided never to get pregnant again. Not ever did it occur to me to name my kid something from the bible after that. But to each her own I guess.
So she named the child after her own feelings for herself while pregnant / delivery? Perfect.
I like the name Saint. I don’t think there is anything wrong with it. Its better than Pilot Inspektor or Apple and my all time favorite Jermajesty. These people do not live in the same environment as everyone else. Of course she talks about her pregnancy. She has a platform to express her experience. Most women love to talk about pregnancy, their kids and other people’s kids. Read the comments half of them are about their own experience and how it was worse. Come on judgy moms.
As result of the high-risk condition, a doctor had to scrape it out by hand.
A doctor had to do this for my brother, my mother’s last child, many moons ago. He was breech too and she almost died. My brother will be twenty seven years old this month.
So much can go wrong during a pregnancy. And yet, I would if I could.
Don’t mind me folks. Just musing.
Women with real pregnancy difficulties aren’t usually walking in heels and flying all around the world days before labor. There is a thing called ‘bed rest’. Some women actually spend their last months on it in the hospital or at home. But, I guess the truth wouldn’t fit the “difficult pregnancy” narrative to garner sympathy for poor selfless heroic Kim.
She is a narcissist. That is a real mental issue and she is that and more. They live in a dream world, simply naming their kid Saint indicates what their mindset is. She is being ridiculed and deserves every snicker she gets. When a person flaunts their private life in your face they are asking for comments from the peanut gallery. Sorry Kim, internet people really aren’t that into you.
So, you’re saying it had nothing to do with the real love of Kim’s life, Reggie Bush, being a former “Saint”?
Taint West. (No typo)
I like the name, its cute. And I wasn’t surprised thats what they named their son. He will be friends with other celebrity kids like Royalty Brown and King Cairo soooo yeah.
But poor Kim, makes me never wanna give birth…
How sad that she named her son to remind him daily how saintly she was for putting up with pregnancy and his birth… Once again, it’s all about Kim. Good luck, Saint.
If Kim did more reading, I’m sure she would find many names from many different cultures that actually would mean what she claims Saint means. Same thing with their odd explanation of the name North, which really doesn’t mean what they think it means either. Probably Kanye just comes up with something in a manic phase, invents his own meaning, and she goes along with it because she doesn’t really care. Neither of them seem to be deep thinkers about such things.
Nathaniel Means gift from God….Nate West. Lol
North West is a beautiful name. I expect to see that name become a thing in a generation or two. And you can say a lot of things about those two, but they sure did make a gorgeous kid. Best to their new baby.
Ugh, Kim and her ass of lies! I don’t believe anything in this PR stunt of a statement. As said previously, for someone who was SO HIGH RISK OMG SO STRESSED PREGNANT she sure was out galavanting in her ridiculous heels and jet setting cross country quite a lot. And a retained placenta sucks, but it’s not quite as life threatening as she seems to want us to believe.
That name? Um… I am sure he is cute. I hope they hire loving nannies. He’s gonna need some tenderness from someone, and it won’t be coming from those narcissist parents.