Amber Heard claims Johnny Depp hit her in the face with his iPhone https://t.co/uDgFjOawkk pic.twitter.com/iQKeqtGhYi
— Daily Mail Celebrity (@DailyMailCeleb) May 27, 2016
In a sad twist to the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard divorce, Amber has filed a domestic abuse restraining order against Johnny. People Magazine has been running stories from Amber’s camp and they have the insider details along with the photo (above) submitted with the restraining order. Amber previously alluded to issues with her safety when a source told People “Amber did what she had to do to take care of herself.” In his statement in response to Amber’s divorce filing, Johnny seemed to shoot down that speculation, stating that he would “not respond to any of the salacious false stories, gossip, misinformation and lies about his personal life.” Here’s People’s report:
Amber Heard has filed a domestic violence restraining order against Johnny Depp, as a source tells PEOPLE “this was not an isolated event.”
“This was only the latest incident,” says the source.
The restraining order comes less than a week after the actress filed for divorce.
A photo that Heard, 30, submitted as evidence in the claim shows the actress with what appears to be a bruise on her right eye.
TMZ is reporting that Amber’s filing alleges Johnny hit her in the eye with his iPhone the day before she filed for divorce. (Update: Depp allegedly threw the phone.) What’s more is that she still had a visible bruise on her eye when she showed up to court. Her restraining order was granted. Here’s more:
Amber Heard just showed up in court with a bruise on her face claiming Johnny Depp physically assaulted her and she’s the victim of repeated domestic violence … TMZ has learned, but sources connected to Johnny are calling BS, saying Amber “is an affront to real victims of domestic violence.”
Heard showed up with her lawyer, Samantha Spector, armed with photos showing various bruises … she claims Depp inflicted various times during their marriage.
We obtained this pic … showing Amber with a bruise around her eye, which she says Depp inflicted Saturday night. Heard claims the pic was taken shortly after she was allegedly struck.
She claims Depp smashed his iPhone on her face.
Amber claims during the alleged attack, Johnny shattered various objects in the apartment. She says she was on the phone with a friend during the fight, and when Johnny grabbed her phone she screamed to her friend, “Call the cops!” The friend called 911 and cops came to the residence.
Amber says when cops arrived Johnny had already fled, so they took a report.We’re told cops told Amber they would find Johnny and arrest him if she gave a statement about the alleged violence, but she refused. Officers told her if she changed her mind she could call them.
TMZ just updated with the news that Amber’s temporary restraining order was granted and that Johnny must stay 100 yards away from her for 30 days. Amber will be allowed to stay in the home, however her request for attorney’s fees and spousal support was denied. What’s more is that Amber requested that the restraining order be extended to one of their dogs (thanks Shannon) but the judge denied that part.
I hope she’s ok now, I hope she feels safe and has friends around her. This definitely changes the whole narrative around Amber divorcing Johnny right after his mom died. If he hit her the day before she filed, his mom’s death may not have had anything to do with her timing. It may have been a catalyst for why Johnny was enraged, but that’s no excuse. It sounds like he may have had that problem throughout their marriage and like Amber suffered for it. We’ll have to see what additional information comes out over the next few days and weeks.
The Daily Mail has photos of Amber leaving court, she looks incredibly upset, you can see the bruise around her eye, and she broke down crying in the car afterwards.
Update 2: Like TMZ, which has updates from Johnny’s side (below), People has another follow-up from Amber’s side claiming that Johnny offered her money to keep quiet about the abuse and that “prior incidents were worse.” Amber also refused to press charges against Johnny when the cops came to her home on Saturday, and was “too shaken” to make a statement. This would explain why TMZ claims that she did not tell police about Johnny allegedly hitting her with his iPhone.
Update 1: TMZ has updated their story with sources from Depp’s team. They claim that LAPD sources told them Amber “had no evidence of any injuries when cops came to her home Saturday night.” They also state that sources close to Johnny “say Amber is lying … making up the domestic violence story. One of the things Johnny points to is Instagram … Amber was tagged in a pic showing she was partying with friends Sunday, the day after the alleged attack.” Their sources also claim that Amber did not tell the cops that Johnny hit her with his iPhone at the time and that they were only called for an argument.
Johnny’s side points to this Instagram photo which Amanda de Cadenet posted Sunday, where Amber’s eye is totally covered with her hair. How is that evidence that she’s lying? Her eye is covered up.
This escalated quickly.
And now everyone is dropping the whole “she’s a gold digger!” thing.
Don’t understand why it actually bothers people so much when women are so called gold diggers TBH. These rich wealthy men know what they’re getting themselves into and don’t feel a bit sorry for them. If they want to pay to be linked arm & arm with a pretty young girl, its their choice. If they willingly chose the sugar daddy role, that is their business choice. One exchange for another. In the end even if she is one or isn’t one, it really doesn’t matter, its never ever right for any physical aggression to be in a relationship.
Well no, she’s still a gold digger. She is also a domestic violence victim. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
isabelle, I’m with you on all counts. There is apparently no shortage of wealthy older men who are happy to enter into an emotionally shallow marriage with a woman who has no credible reason to fall in love with them, so long as that woman is young and beautiful, and I see no reason why these women should not get lavishly compensated for their trouble. They are providing commodities prized above all else by these sad, emotionally stunted men — youth and beauty. Youth and beauty pass away quickly, and someone whose earning potential is based on these had better make hay while the sun shines.
And whether a woman is a golddigger has no bearing on violence dished out by an abusive spouse — physical abuse is always unacceptable, full stop, whether the victim is “likeable” or not.
@Jane S
Evidence of gold digging????
Honestly, that gold digger narrative never made a lick of sense as a bunch of us kept saying yesterday. Gold digger who bails in 15 months with zero children with the optics of a dead mum playing in the background? Wasnt it plain that there was much more to it?!
Now that we know what happened can we please dispense with that gold digger nonsense on focus on the real issue at hand. I liked you Johnny but its over for good. Wtf is it with these 80s matinee idols. Gibson, Sheen, Depp ….Cruise a different kind of abuser. Pitt better not have any damn skeletons.
Doesn’t Johnny have a history of anger issues and abuse? I wonder if any of his exes will come forward to support her claims.
I don’t know much about her, so I’m not sure why people are so sure she’s a golddigger either. Because he’s richer than her? I’ve heard that lots of other women considered Johnny Depp attractive at some point.
@Isabelle: I agree with you.
I wish they would. If she is a gold digger and lying about the abuse then this is a bad play. She just ruined her reputation and career by coming forward with this so soon after his mother’s death. It makes no sense. If JD was so great and she was a social climbing gold digger then why wouldn’t she stick it out and have a kid or 2. If this is all a huge lying she screwed herself and even if she has proof she is screwed.
People are saying she married him for the wrong reasons and was only in it for the connections and money, but would JD have married her if she was some average woman working in a mall? No. Look how many women had/have a crush on him and would jump atbthe chance to be with him, yet for Amber it is unreasonable and out of the realm of possibility for her to meet and start dating a man she may very well have had a crush on for most of her life without ulterior motives.
Sadly a lot of these wealthy men not only make promises but offer ongoing spousal support in post divorce. Then the same man who offered the whole package continues to slander the woman as “a gold digger” and “lazy” or whatever. That should be illegal. If someone offers it, shut up and stop the slander.
Now the latest is that lapd said she had no injuries, no physical fight, and did not press charges. Who knows who is telling the truth now so don’t argue amongst yourselves just yet! So crazy!
Abuse victims are very conflicted as to what to do. You still love the person often and secretly believe it was your fault and you pushed him to aggression. women conclude many times they caused him to become violen.Filing a report makes it official you’re laying all the blame at his feet. Its a hard decision to make when you are in the midst of abuse.
LAPD has not said it. TMZ’s sources in LAPD has.
Sorry for duplicate comment! Can’t figure of how to delete one.
We simply don’t have enough information to judge. I’m not denying that the abuse happened, but it is not difficult to obtain a restraining order, and doing so does not necessarily require evidence of physical abuse. Let’s not jump to conclusions just yet.
But that’s not in any kind of report is it? The way I read it was LAPD sources were telling TMZ the officers saw no injuries. If she didn’t want to file charges, she could have been covering the area up with hair like the pic above. And we also can’t forget the fact that he’s one of the biggest movie stars alive, he’s got one of the most powerful publicists around, and he hired mega-divorce lawyer. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them had a contact in the LAPD willing to massage the truth, so to speak, for TMZ (who from the get-go has wanted to be on Depp’s side.)
If there were no bruises, she’s pretty twisted for making this up with make-up and all.
I’m not disbelieving, but Depp doesn’t have a history of violence with women. He trashed a hotel room once when with Kate Moss, but didn’t hit her. His excessive drinking may have changed things, though.
And if he did hit her, I’m glad she went public. I’ve long though Sean Penn did something like this to Charlize Theron, but she kept it quiet for some reason..
There is zero excuse for violence of any kind. I will always stand in support of a domestic violence victim. I don’t care if you’re an actor or a janitor, if you put your hands on a woman in a violent way, your ass needs to be in jail. Period.
The truth will come out eventually. Domestic violence is unacceptable under any circumstance male or female!
I am Intake and Assessment specialist in the domestic violence unit for a large police service in Canada, so I feel that I am able to speak confidently on this topic.
Injuries received during assaults are not always immediately evident. Sometimes police officers see that the complainant has ‘red puffy eyes’ and assume that it was because the complainant was crying. The visible injuries may not show up for hours, or even the next day.
Victims of domestic violence often do not want to complain, as they do not want to get their partner’s in to trouble, or do not want to make the situation worse for themselves.
In Canada, police do not need a cooperative victim. If there are reasonable and probable grounds to lay DV related charges, police lay the charges. I believe that in the States, police can not proceed without a cooperative complainant… I wouldn’t dismiss Amber’s new claims, because her injuries were not evident at the time police investigated. As for the reports that there was no complaint of a physical fight, there are many victims who deny being assaulted, even when there is physical evidence (ie: injuries, room in disarray, etc;)
Even her side is claiming he just threw the phone at her, not hit her with it. Throwing it in her general direction, tossing it her? This makes her story much more of a gray area in that there’s no way to know if he actually intended to injure her.
The LAPD haven’t said shit. An anonymous TMZ source claiming to be connected to the LAPD did. That could be literally anyone.
I think a lot of times victims are afraid to speak the truth even with the cops right in front on their face. Also she has really long hair and it was probably easy for her to just cover it up and lie on behalf of Johnny because she was scared. It’s such a sad and scary situation all around.
I was going to chime in with pretty much what @KellySunshine said above. Amber may not have had a visible bruise yet when the cops were there. It can take up to 24 hours for a bruise to show up. And in that picture, I am seeing a pretty distinctive straight line on one side of the bruise. Like the side of a cell phone, for instance.
Bruises don’t usually show right away and if she had her hair covering it or had applied makeup, then nothing would have been visible. Don’t know if makeup on before impact would make a difference in visibility, although I can see someone adding more if the impact messed it up.
If the incident occurred as she initially reported, she might just have not been sure if she wanted to pursue it at that time, especially if his mother had just died. She asked for police in the heat of the moment, when she wasn’t sure how far it would go.
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I don’t doubt that Depp may have thrown a phone at Heard, but the bruising in the photos has absolutely been embellished. Physically there is no way the primary bruising moved from the occipital orbit to underneath the cheekbone and now way the deep tissue bruising, which is shown in the first photo, moved from the temple end of the eyebrow up to the center of the eyebrow. Body doesn’t heal in this manner.
The fact that Heard normally wears daily makeup but showed up completely bare-faced and dead-eyed for the TRO hearing is simple courtroom theatrics. She’s asking for spousal support after one year of marriage and no children between them which establishes a motive to exaggerate an injury allegedly sustained by a thrown ipod. Since this divorce could easily have been settled quietly between the couple’s attorneys, I’d say she is playing hardball to ensure she gets what she wants out of the divorce.
I’m sorry but I have to say something. He , I believe acted in an aggressive way towards his wife. Which resulted in a mark on her face and I believe her when she says this isn’t the first time this has happened. It’s well established that Johnny has been violent when drunk.
Now if you want to be dismissive or try to downgrade the act of violence the Amber received, then I find that disgusting. I’m so passionate about this topic. There is no grey area in domestic violence. The more people try to excuse or shame the victims, the longer the this epidemic goes.
Should she have shown up to the hearing covering her bruises that her abuser gave her ?
Everyone on the site is suddenly an expert. Hope the money Johnny Depp’s PR is paying you is worth this
The angle of the photos taken today makes it appear that way, but no, the bruise falls under the exact same part of her eyebrow as it did in the original photo. And I’m sorry but six days of healing looks different on everyone.
Funny that a few comments down summertime has a very nearly identical comment.
I’ve also just seen a near identical comment on the DM comments section. Did Depp get himself some shills or is this a super zealous fan with time on her hands.
Agreed. I find the timing of this very suspicious. Just because she’s a woman, it does not mean she’s not lying.
I think something is very fishy about all of this. I don’t trust her and it’s a lot of money at stake so I just don’t know but I don’t like her she seems maniputive AF! Johnny isn’t a prize (anymore) either. She wants attention and money and she will probably get it.
@paleokifaru
That’s one of the top comments on this story at the daily mail. No idea why people would copy it and past on different sites to appear as an expert….unless they’re deluded fangirls?
It doesn’t matter if he intended to hit her. Throwing objects around in a room with your spouse to intimidate is abuse.
This post is cut and paste, exactly the same as one in the daily mail…. So are Johnny’s fans flooding the net with their posts?
I don’t know but there’s one super obsessed fan (who’s convinced Depp is an empath with psychic powers who’s her soulmate) who’s been posting up a storm about how Amber is evil and abusive.
So Depp fans have taken a page out of COS playbook copy and paste same comment on multiple sites.Pathetic
I think we have to wait and see. Either way, it’s horrible: A woman physically abused by her husband, or a man’s reputation and life getting publicly besmirched, possibly ruined. It’s best they both stay away from each other, I’m sure we’ll see plenty on how this rolls out in the coming days.
She also asked for the restraining order to extend to one of their dogs, but the judge did not grant that part. I really hope Johnny never hurt the dog 🙁 But I work in animal rescue and with domestic abuse victims and I know how common a tactic harming the pets is so I’m very concerned.
I’ll add that Shannon thank you for mentioning that.
So true. Many law enforcement agencies are now tracking and monitoring complaints of animal abuse/neglect since there is a very high correlation between mistreatment of animals and domestic violence.
thank you BearcatLawyer, I always appreciate your insight into all matter legal.
Why in the world would a judge not grant it to extend to one of the dogs? Vengeful ex’s do horrible things to their loved one’s pets, it’s well documented. 🙁
TMZ is reporting that the judge did not feel her dog Pistol was in imminent danger. Absent some evidence that Johhny has threatened or harmed the dog in the past it would be difficult to get a protective order issued.
Then again, I am impressed that she could even seek a protective order for Pistol in CA. Many states treat animals as property only and therefore unable to be granted protective orders at all.
The FBI is now tracking people convicted of animal abuse, so if he lays a finger on that pooch, he’ll be marked for life by the feds.
When I saw the picture of her crying in the car, my first though was I wonder if it’s because she didn’t get sole custody of the dog. I, too, know how much danger the pets can be in.
I like RACHEL’s point. I have a friend who was an abused wife and she practically danced through her divorce she was so happy. Amber might be crying for the dog, or out of embarrassment, or about the money, but I highly doubt she is cracked up about a marriage that was over months ago.
The Humane Society has great info on how to report an animal abuse situation. http://m.humanesociety.org/issues/abuse_neglect/tips/cruelty_action.html?credit=web_globalfooter_id93480558
He is in Portugal right now and will start playing with his Vampires in less than two hours (Rock in Rio Lisbon). Does he have the dogs/dig traveling with him?
I was once in a physically abusive relationship. I always made excuses (my fault, he drank too much, etc.) for him, UNTIL the day he said he was going to harm the new puppy that he had just bought me. I realised then and only then, how sick and twisted he truly was. The dog saved my life.
I went and grabbed the dog, dogs things and all my stuff from his apartment while he was off rampaging and never looked back.
For some reason in my mind I could see how I could have pushed him to hit me but an innocent dog? No way.
Ridiculous but glad you got out.
How horrible for you! I hope your life is much better now.
It’s weird how that works, isn’t it? I can see myself doing the same, and once I actually planned it. My then bf started drinking waaaay too much and taking his stress out on me (not physically, but arguing about nothing and blaming me for stuff, throwing things violently at the wall) and I told him that if he didn’t knock that crap off I’d be gone. I made an escape plan for me and the cat, but fortunately he woke up and realized he had a problem before it came to that. It was dark times but nowhere near as dark as you went through.
It makes perfect sense to me. Even though you may have felt on some level you deserved this abuse or provoked it in him somehow, you knew instinctively that your puppy had done nothing wrong and did not deserve to be harmed. And because you loved and valued your puppy, you realized that you had no choice except to leave. If not for your sake, for the sake of the puppy.
Perhaps…just perhaps…that puppy was your guardian angel in disguise. Glad you are doing well now. Remember – success is the very best revenge!
i wish i could upvote this comment!
I must share that I “took in ” a friend whose husband nearly beat her within an inch of her life very violently…just chilling. . I’m giving details because her dog saw the whole thing. When I was petsitting her dog temporarily (she left the state to re-start her life)…her pet suddenly died. An healthy young animal- just died I believe from shock and grief within days of viewing the beating.
Wow. This one really hurts.
That’s all I can really say. Though I hope Amber is okay- dread the further shit she will go through.
I’m so mad. Edward Scissorhands is how I came to being a fan. I worship Jack Sparrow’s insouciant and good natured lothario. I wanted to believe those characters became real on the screen bc of something inside the actor playing them being true… I think we all do.
What’s the line? We’ve been poisoned by these fairytales…:-(
I don’t doubt that Johnny Depp may have thrown a phone at Ms. Heard, but the bruising in the photos has absolutely been embellished.
Physically there is no way the primary bruising moved from the occipital orbit to underneath the cheekbone and now way the deep tissue bruising, which is shown in the first photo, moved from the temple end of the eyebrow up to the center of the eyebrow. Body doesn’t heal in this manner.
The fact that Ms. Heard normally wears daily makeup but showed up completely bare-faced and dead-eyed for the TRO hearing is simple courtroom theatrics. She’s asking for spousal support after one year of marriage and no children between them which establishes a motive to exaggerate an injury allegedly sustained by a thrown ipod. Since this divorce could easily have been settled quietly between the couple’s attorneys, I’d say she is playing hardball to ensure she gets what she wants out of the divorce.
I agree with you!
Hey look, someone finally agrees with you! Though it’s likely the same person under a different name.
I agree, too. Definitely NOT the same poster as above. I think Amber Heard is snowing all of you.
I felt some major tea could be spilled because he seemed to be digging in his heels on giving her anything, and also trying to ruin her reputation. But I thought it would be pics of a drug den ending up on TMZ, not this. This is very, very sad.
Me, too. I figured videos of heavy booze and drug use were coming. I knew Johnny was a mess, but I never thought he would hurt someone. So appalling.
Exactly, I thought major drama was coming but not this. Everything makes sense now with the timing and everything on Amber’s part. It’s really sad.
The thing with addictions is, it is progressive. I don’t know why I never thought of it, but obviously if he has been using drugs and abusing alcohol all of these years, he would have anger issues.
Well, as I much as I like/liked Johnny, there is no excuse for physical violence. I absolutely do not blame Heard for filing for divorce, close to his mother’s death or not, if him getting physically abusive is true. That is a dealbreaker.
100% dealbreaker. There is absolutely no excuse for abuse.
Yes. Good for her for just getting out of a really bad situation.
So we are 100% positive he actually did what she claims?
You cannot be this dense.
The TMZ reports are coming fast and furious and the latest one states that the cops, whom she called after their fight on Saturday, saw no evidence of injuries, no bruises etc. You can read any of these either way – she is lying and making it up to get what she wants/revenge/bitterness or he is an abuser and she finally got fed up with the violence after 15 months. Until there is more evidence I don’t think any of us can truly tell what has happened. I have no love for JD but I also dislike her so I think it’s a mess either way but I believe that domestic violence is too big a deal to blindly believe either of them.
Yes, I know most women who are victims are afraid to press charges, that many of them stay far too long for reasons that only they can justify, that it takes a great deal of courage to go public and leave. So if the violence was real, I hope JD gets punished as much as the law allows despite his talent, fame and money. And if Amber is lying I hope she gets proven wrong even though sadly every time one woman makes it up it probably sets every real victim back and makes it harder for everyone else to come forward.
I was never on either side to begin with because if she married him for reasons other than love, what did that say about his judgement? And whether he broke up his LTR or not, the way he fell for a pretty starlet half his age and rushed to marry her felt unwise. But ending up like this, it’s just sad. I am not going to try to pick apart and analyze why they were together that night after an alleged month apart, or why if she had experienced violence and abuse before she was there alone with him instead of being with family / friends/staff because that comes too close to victim blaming. It wouldn’t be what I would do at all – spending time alone with my domestic violent partner the day after a parent’s death while he is drinking, but what I would do is irrelevant. I also can’t imagine my spouse raising a hand to me, so the whole thing feels insane.
I hope Amber is safe. I hope they both get help in whatever form they need. I hope the people who will investigate this mess will come to the correct conclusion. I am glad it’s not me.
@vauvert I totally get what you are saying. And I really think that those of us who have always been in healthier relationships just cannot fathom the type of head space you are in during and after abuse. I’m sure in some way it would feel logical to be at your abuser’s side when they have been hurt…it’s just not an easy head space for me to personally imagine.
Bruises don’t show up immediately. Since the skin was not broken, she may not have looked injured the immediate aftermath. She was no doubt crying so her eyes would have been red and swollen, which would also make it hard to determine if she had an injury.
We should be careful when trusting too much on what TMZ publishes because they are all about the narrative that brings them more attention, they are not about the truth. It’s a lot of sources saying loads of stuff but unless we are evaluating official statements it’s all click baiting speculation (with some truth in the middle probably).
she said IF the abuse happened- that’s not automatically jumping to the conclusion that it did.
I’m not sold on it yet, this chick is too money hungry.
@vauvert, completely agreed. This is the best, most intelligent, rational comment I’ve seen on here so far.
I agree with you, Miss S. TMZ is an awful source. For every story that they break, there are hundreds filled with misinformation, speculation, editorializing, hyperbole, conjecture, and opinion. Moment by moment tidbits from anyone, anywhere, with whatever agendas they want to further, These are not journalists, by any definition. Just rumor and gossip mongers who masquerade as legit news sources. It’s gross.
–TheRealPinky
Agree. And also:
“is an affront to real victims of domestic violence.”
Like if he is not thaaaat violent then she is not a real victim… Is there a mark for “real violence”?! This kind of BS really gets me!!
I just told my coworker about this, that Amber supposedly had pictures and evidence of abuse during the marriage. She said scornfully, “Oh, she had the time to take pictures?”
So if you don’t have proof, no one believes you. If you do take the time to get proof, you get blamed for that, too.
Arrrgghh.
Yeah, attitudes like that are probably part of the reason she DID take pictures.
I just showed this picture to my husband and he said, “What a creep. His career is done.”
yeah, she basically can’t win.
I do not know how close you are to the said person but these are warning sogns to cut these people outta your life.
Not close.
“she had time to take pics?” Um…of course she took pics! Any smart woman knows you do what can to prove your abuse. That’s smart. If she wasn’t married to Depp and accusing him, nobody would comment. It’s only cause people want to excuse their beloved Johnny that Amber is getting side eyed for her documentation. Plus, if she called cops, these could be pics they insisted on! God, I hate people blaming victims without reason to. I hope she has video and it’s damaging as hell. I believe her story.
I hope she’s documented all of it. I hope that video exists. I hope it all sees the light of day. Johnny will look all the worse trying to deny everything and trashing her. That photo Depp’s people released where Amber’s hair covers the injured side of her face is just lame.
I’ll never understand why people insist on painting this cases as far-fetched, as something of the past. This is, sadly, a much more common reality than it should.
“Oh, she had the time to take pictures?”
Whaaaa? Woooooow…Sickening, but not surprising. No evidence, s/he’s a liar. Evidence, s/he’s a liar, or worse, “that’s what they get.”
In our desire to be entertained by gossip, it’s easily forgettable that celebs are human (granted, that seems to slip their minds, too). This whole scenario has gone from juicy (PR jabs) -> disturbing (mom’s death so close) -> vile (possible on-going abuse allegations) at an *alarming* rate for any persons involved, celeb or no.
Yep.
You said it all. No more to add. I’ll just watch and see how this all unfolds.
You may want to gently break it to your co-worker that it is no longer necessary to go to a photography studio to have photos done and therefore the ‘time to take pictures’ is the 15 seconds it takes to hold your phone up to a mirror.
I’m sorry to hear this appears to be another Mel Gibson situation (where people* think that because the woman is a goldigger, she may be lying about the abuse or even worse she deserves it). Bearing in mind she’s good at manipulating the press, this explains why she’d take the damage to her reputation that filing so soon after Johnny’s mother’s death caused.
*not anyone on this site
This situation isn’t quite the same. The Mel & Oksana mess dragged on for so long because it was a bitter custody dispute, and all sorts of mud gets thrown when parents fight over the kids.
The Johnny & Amber situation is a bit different because the only custody dispute is over the dogs. As for their divorce, community property assets are divided 50/50 in CA regardless of fault, and Amber lost leverage for a civil settlement by quickly filing for divorce and publicizing the accusations. I can’t see any financial incentive for her actions. If anything, Amber risks her future career with Disney by hurting the opening weekend of Depp’s movie. The only motives I can image for Amber to lie or exaggerate are revenge and fame, not gold digging.
I don’t think she’s lost leverage. There could be SO MUCH MORE. Not even related to DV. The man is a mess. There has to be more.
@Sam the incentive is before this she was being viewed as a cold gold digger who filed for divorce a day after his mother died. Now she is seen as the victim. Her public persona has improved and his has declined. I really don’t have an opinion either way, as I think it is too early and too important of an allegation to jump to any conclusion, but I wouldn’t be surprised either way. Unfortunately, no matter which truth is real this is a horribly ugly story.
And it turns out I spoke too soon and this thread is now full of people claiming she is lying
This shit. It makes me so angry.
Does anyone know why she didn’t press charges?
Most people don’t 🙁
Could be any number of reasons–didn’t want the press, didn’t want to because his mother had just died, she was in shock. Take your pick.
He has a substance abuse problem. His mother just died. He and Amber have had a bad marriage. His recent films haven’t done well. Hell, he could be angry that his favorite socks went missing. Dude’s had a shitty couple of years, AND it still doesn’t give him the right to abuse anyone. If he’s unhappy with his situation, that’s HIS problem to deal with. Personally, I think he’s long overdue for anger management and substance abuse treatment.
If you’ve ever been in a relationship with an abuser, you know that they can suck your psyche dry. You can be their biggest cheerleader, encourage them to get healthy, even blame their behavior on yourself. I’m glad that she extricated herself from this unhealthy relationship. I’m glad that she’s got friends and family to support her emotionally, too.
But Johnny can’t really win either, he will be forever thought to be guilty now even we can not be certain he is.
Hollywood has a history of actors who were proved guilty and who could totally keep their career going. No matter what happens there will always be some doubt in the air (even if he is proved guilty some people will say it isn’t true and blame Heard), but trying to be fair, she does not have the leverage to come out of this well either. Now she will be that actress that was beaten by Depp or the gold digging actress who used him and tried to destroy his career for some reason, probably money.
I read an article today where the journalist found 80 actors guilty of DV and they all moved on with their lives and no real consequences were felt work wise. If this isn’t true he has all the resources to clean up and move past that. My opinion naturally.
Dont weep for Johnny , he could be convicted today and it wouldnt affect his career. The only reason Mel Gibsn paid a career price is because he was that he kept messing up and he offended nearly every demographic. All the other wife beaters are happily cradled in Hollywoods bossom
Thank you, seems like people are conveniently forgetting that fact.
I agree with Miss. Since there have been several successful public figures who keep their successful careers and have people defending them, he has more star power, and since people already don’t like Amber Heard anyway, her going public about this might hurt her image and career more than it hurts his, whether she’s lying or not. IF it turns out she’s actually lying and Johnny never abused her, (not saying that’s what I believe) she deserves for that to happen, and Depp’s career won’t be harmed. But if she’s telling the truth and there was abuse, that’s a problem.
The much more likely reality is Amber getting hit and people not giving a shit/forgiving Depp for all the ‘charity work’ he has done over the years. (Check the DM comments, people defend him because of his charity work).
It’s much more likely that Depp hit her and not that she hit herself in the face. And it’s not uncommon for entertainment stars to get away with it. That is the much more dangerous reality.
I’m shedding a tear for poor Johnny right now.
WTF, johnny’s charity work. They made excuses for Jimmy Savile’s monstrous behaviour becuase of his charity work too. What is wrong with people.
Crimes against women don’t seem to hold men back much. I’m sure there are some exceptions, but in general, not really. I’d say the trajectory of his career will continue. And it’s already downward.
Women can be much worse than men when it comes to blaming the women victims.
And if she had a picture taken on the next without the bruises it doesn’t mean anything, makeup does exist to conceal stuff like that. She wasn’t bleeding or had a black eye which would be harder to hide. This is all so disturbing, not just these news, but also how so many are reacting not even giving her the benefit of the doubt:/
uh. that’s a dumb thing to say. Someone (drunk) on my wedding day called me the c word and asked when i had the time to get married. I didn’t understand.
Because it takes sooooo long to snap a pic with your phone…..? What a bizarre and horrible attitude.
Vanessa Paradis is in her mansion somewhere singing “Joe le taxi” while sipping on a fancy cocktail lol
…I would certainly hope not. She has kids with him so if this is true, which it pretty damn well looks like it is,she might want to rethink how often they get to go see Daddy-O before he gets sober and takes some serious anger management classes.
Anger management actually does almost nothing for domestic abusers. Domestic abuse isn’t about anger at all, but trying to have power and control over another human being – usually abusers are absolutely in control of what they’re doing. There are a few programs that are specifically aimed towards working with abusers, but they’re not always successful.
Yeah. I doubt Vanessa is singing around in her mansion about another woman getting abused by the father of her child.
It looks true because of some pictures on a gossip site and the reports of the protection order from TMZ. My only hope is you say that exact same thing if you get called for jury duty.
Playing devil’s advocate here, she was getting awful press about filing divorce papers right after his Mom died, and then he says no to spousal support and then they let this out. She could be telling the truth, but Hollywood divorces are messy and it could be the other way around too.
Good news is it is the courts now, and it will be settled without the witch hunt that was going both ways on this one real fast too. First she’s a cold hearted gold digger then he is an abuser all in the span of a few days. If she is an abused wife, good luck to her, and I hope she gets the justice and whatever she wants and needs. Hopefully as Johnny does have kids I hope he gets some help, because whether he was an abuser, or an addict, one thing for sure just marrying her was really a midlife crisis of epic proportions.
@noway maybe dont play devil’s advocate when a woman has been abused and has basically committed career suicide to bring an A lister to task ?
I think @noway is saying that it’s good it’s in the court system because it will truly be sorted out. It would be naive to think that people don’t falsely accuse of others of abuse. Especially in a divorce. Unfortunately, false accusations are VERY common in that process and everyone is very careful to keep an open mind in investigating them. Although I will add that in my personal experience that seems to be more likely if child custody is at issue. Perhaps @bearcatlawyer has a different perspective.
Actually most abusers are on the sociopathic curve and know exactly what they are doing as they’re doing it. Their goal is to control and over power their victims by any means or con necessary. Failing that, they go for elimination. There’s no therapy or little pills to cure them of that unfortunately. And then of course you surround them with a culture that still thinks it’s OK to “smack that b!tch down”….They, and their lawyers, take full advantage.
Divorcing a hollywood legend (despite the last few films, Johnny is the most critically and commercially successful actor of his generation) right after his mother death after a very brief marriage is a career no-go.
What I am saying is OF COURSE SHE IS NOT LYING. Seriously just think about it logically for a minute. This womans career is officially over and all. Regardless of whether he pays her off or not, his team will have to eviscerate her publicly. Every bad thing she ever did is about to become very public. And for what? Money that she could have had by simply sticking out the marriage for a few more years?
There is no incentive to lie here and actually reporting this just cost her her lifes dream. That sound in the background is DC consulting lawyers n whether they can ditch uber becky Amber for other uber becky, Blake Lively for that hot girlfriend role next to Aquaman.
@noway, @paleokifaru Completely agree with both of you. It’s equally as problematic to think that just because she’s a woman, it has to be true and she can’t be lying. Women lie about this stuff a lot.
@cornbaby Obviously this is too important of an issue to rush to judgement either way, but if you feel free to pronounce guilt through gossip sites go for it.
On a positive note for Amber, I disagree with people about her career now being in the toilet because of this, unless somehow it gets proven that she was lying- which I can’t see how that will happen. First, Johnny Depp has been seen drunk or high at award shows so I don’t think he quite has the power he used to have with the Hollywood brass, not to mention his movies haven’t been doing well and he has aged quite a bit. Plus, she has a couple of really big blockbusters coming up League of Nations and Aquaman. If she and the movies do well her career will be what it always was going to be.
@ Jamie-“women lie about this stuff a lot”? Um NO.
Uh, a point to note is that part of her bad press came from those Tiffany photographs, which have now been revealed to have been taken weeks ago despite the dates attached to them. That in itself is making Depp’s PR team look far shadier to me – and frankly I was one of the more skeptical people when this story first broke.
It’s far more common to have abuse victims lie to cover for their abusers than it is for people to lie about domestic abuse – male or female. Even in court cases where the abuse is blatant, most victims don’t see the compensation they actually deserve.
What’s sad is that today is Lily_rose’s birthday ( I saw her name listed on DListed’s Birthday sluts)
Domestic violence is nothing to laugh about.
Why would you post a comment like this? You really think that a woman is off somewhere rejoicing that another woman got beaten? Gross. And “lol”…? What is wrong with you?
What a nasty, classless thing to say.
I hope not and I really doubt that. If she did have a positive reaction to someone getting abused, and if other people think that’s somehow a normal or justified response because the victim isn’t some likable, saintly person, that’s more of a reflection on her and them than it is on Amber.
While this is a terrible thought and I hope it isn’t true……… it’s not out of the realm of possibility that Vanessa is secretly glad that she isn’t in that place anymore. That’s human. Who knows what went on between them, and what she had to deal with all those years. I doubt very much that she’s “happy” about any of this, or gloating in any way.
These accusations coming out may explain why he’s proposed so many times but hasn’t been married. That always struck me as odd, a man like him remaining unmarried and none of his partners seemingly interested in doing so. Then this younger women suddenly marries him and almost as suddenly files for divorce at an incredibly awkward time that does nothing but make her look bad. Makes sense, in a horrible way.
I said it in the other thread…I’m often hesitant when accusations are hurled during break ups/divorce because I personally know how truly vindictive people can be over hurt feelings. But in this case there seems to be enough solid proof to grant a restraining order and frankly Johnny has a history of violently trashing things. So I’m not really surprised.
Trashing things yes, like hotel rooms with his coked up girlfriends. Is there a history of violence against people or animals? If so, can someone please provide some links?
And I am still on the fence here. I don’t understand how the LAPD did not notice this bruise and did not include it in their report? WTF is going on?
I don’t believe he’s ever been accused by his former girlfriends. But as I said down thread that may be because they viewed it as a career killer. Sadly, many incidences of violence against women go unreported.
There are actual pictures and people are still on the fence. SMH
@I there are pictures of him hitting her? Where?
Bruises don’t form immediately. If she was crying, the isolated redness around her eye might have blended in with other crying-induced redness on her face.
Also, see how LAPD handled OJ Simpson. Nicole ran to them and clung to a police officer saying “He’s going to kill me”, but police had to be called to their home 8 times before they finally arrested him on the 9th call. LAPD is not immune from star power and influence.
I’m on the fence here…something seems off about this situation. As far as i’m aware no charges have been filed and the LAPD said there was no signs of abuse. WTF is right. I could be wrong but when Rihanna was beaten by Chris Brown. I was under the impression that she did not want to press charges, but the prosecutors did anyways. So whats is the difference here? Both have physical signs of abuse.
Sometimes it takes a while for bruises to come up.
Don’t recall any actually saying he hit them but they did complain about aggressive behavior and a temper when he was high/drunk.
He was arrested in 1999 for attacking paparazzi in London. You want links? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/269156.stm
Winona Ryder has said that her first boyfriend was abusive towards her. And if you look at who she was dating around the time she talks about….it’s Johnny. Added to the room thrashing and violent outbursts. It adds up
Did anyone see the Blind Item about Kate Moss?
Drknowitall, violent rumors have actually followed him for decades. I shared this on a previous post, but I stayed at a resort shortly after Johnny and Vanessa in the early 2000s, and the whole place was buzzing with gossp about his “violent streak”. He threatened Vanessa on a boat, with their kids and staff members present, and one of the employee later told me to think twice about admiring his films.
Honestly, I really wanted to assume it was a misunderstanding. I didn’t tell anyone; who wants their heartthrob hero to be a monster? But I’m ashamed I brushed it off, because now I’m sure Vanessa was a victim too.
Something is still weird here, there’s more waiting in the wings for sure. But I believe this. It explains a lot, if he was abusive. It doesn’t take much to cross the line from throwing the furniture around to taking a swing at a living thing, animal or person. It probably escalated and this, for whatever reason was the last straw. He might have threatened the dogs for all we know.
Bruises don’t develop right away, they’re described in books as “blooming” for a reason. I work with livestock and I get bruised all the time. It’s only a little thing when it happens but by the end of the day it’s ugly and huge. If the cops came right away her face might not have looked all that bad, especially if her hair was hanging over it and she was all puffy from crying.
Wow, that’s awful. Her face looked okay when she was at Tiffany’s the other day, but I guess she was covered in makeup. I hope there are real consequences (legal, career, etc) suffered by JD from this.
I posted this in the other thread but:
US Weekly published a story saying the Tiffany photos were from April but they were mislabelled as if they were recent, conveniently casting doubt on her story. Wonder whose PR was behind that “mistake”…
Lainey at Lainey gossip is reporting the same thing. Those pictures were from April.
Yeah, I was confused about that too before I read that on Lainey Gossip. The pics above are the actual first ones since she filed for divorce.
The photos were from April – almost a month ago:
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/amber-heard-didnt-go-shopping-at-tiffanys-after-johnny-depp-split-w208052
She says she has a video. If she does bet she releases it if people keep doubting her story.
Jeez, this is getting ugly. I’ve read that Johnny would go into rages and throw things whenever he fought with his ex-girlfriends but never read he hit any girl. I like Johnny but he needs some major therapy – I think he alluded to that recently somewhere. I guess Amber knew he was volatile when they were engaged and maybe that’s why she considered ending the engagement. And the fact that he is in his 50s and she is in her 20s.
but how come her face was OK when she was shopping? i just do not get it…
Those pictures are old. Tiffany’s confirmed it. Someone’s PR released them as recent pics.
See my comment above. The Tiffany pictures were from April.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/amber-heard-didnt-go-shopping-at-tiffanys-after-johnny-depp-split-w208052
oh crap… so, no excuse. i really hoped he is not one of those guys, but you never know. she may be an actress, people may not like her, but this is sad, more so cos he has a daughter.
I think the Tiff pics are old. But the photos on Instagram are new, however her hair is in the way, so it is hard to tell.
Plus she could be wearing makeup to cover up bruising. That is not my question. My question is how the LAPD did not document the physical evidence? Either they messed up or she is lying. If you look at her face, there is clearly at least one small laceration, so that would be visible right away. That type of evidence is noted in a police report, even if the victim declines to file charges. So why is the LAPD saying there is no physical evidence of injury on her person?
A lot of the time in DV cases, they can’t go forward if the victim refuses to cooperate or file a report. Sometimes the cops will try to bully the victim into filing a report (which is problematic for many reasons), but other times cops will leave if both parties refuse to make a complaint and if one of the parties agrees to leave the house and stay somewhere else for the night to cool off. Since Johnny had already left when they arrived and Amber did not want to make a complaint, they probably decided to leave.
Keep in mind, we’re getting this info about the LAPD through TMZ. Who knows who their sources are, and how close they even were to the investigation? They may not even be privy to all the details. None of them are speaking on the record and the LAPD has not released its own official statement, nor should they comment on an ongoing high profile situation like this.
She’s with friends and her hair is strategically hiding half her face in that photo. Women, with true friends, won’t hide their bruises. This get together could have been a time to get support from them too.
The things you all know and remember from years ago is eye opening. I spent mere minutes looking at photos of Johnny with Amber over these years and he looks really mean. I never noticed or registered how mean he looks… anyway, I believe her.
@Boo, I honestly think this looks like a group of supportive friends / women. To me, both her friends don’t look careless or thrilled, but a lot like “I’m gonna kick his ass”. To me the picture is a sign towards Johnny – “We got her back. We know what’s behind the hair, and we know you know it, too, Johnny.” To me it feels like this picture is a reminder for all of them to never forget that day. That’s just how I interpreted it. I absolutely believe her, too.
I believe her. Kate Moss said Johnny had a violent temper.
It also makes sense why she’s asking for money. Amber is an actress. She’s a bombshell not a character actor. She relies on her looks. He messed up her face. He’s costing her money.
Yes, and he probably got away with seeming like a real romantic because of it for many years. Some women and men have such warped thinking of what passion and love really are…
THIS. Especially when he was younger. We know he violently trashed places…is it that much of a leap to think he may have physically abused the other women he was involved with and that they covered it up? I mentioned it in the other thread and I’ll say it again – female celebrities have time and again protected these men because it sickly protects their own reputations too. It’s more surprising for her to actually come forward with this.
@Paleokifaru
I couldnt agree more. I bet when they finally conduct an anonymous survey in Hollywood, they’ll find the rate of reporting substantially lower than every other city.
Oh definitely @Naya. In my field there is rampant sexual harassment that is just now starting to get a public forum and major museums, journals and universities are scrambling like crazy to shut it down. People who absolutely knew what was going on are pretending they were ignorant to it and the journalist who broke the story actually got fired. And we’re not people with major public images to protect. So I absolutely believe that all kinds of abuse are grossly under reported in Hollywood and that women and children especially are often told to sweep it under the rug for their own good. It’s disgusting.
It’s not just that, she knows coming out with this information is a career killer. She will probably be blacklisted by a lot of Johnny’s friends. She may no longer have any income because she dared identify the abuse. Our society punishes famous women for this.
This is sadly true. It’s more likely that this will hurt her career than his. He might take a short-term fall, but then there’ll probably be rehab and a whole redemption angle played out for the public.
I was wondering why his PR team were coming out so hard. They were trying to shut her up with his power. And so many people believed. People are so quick to think the worst of women.
So true. Though I did not like her casting I am so glad she has Aquaman now
Good point, but I think society blames all women for the abuse they suffer.
True. I firmly believe that Sean Penn hit or threatened to hit Charilize Theron last year and she let it go. If Depp did hit her, good for her for reporting it.
I wrote the same thing above, she has nothing to gain from this. She doesn’t have his leverage. She will be humiliated (being abused is soul crushing and letting others know is something that brings shame to the victim) and always be associated with a) that gold digger who messed up with beloved Depp b) that actress who was beaten by Depp.
He can clean up, do a PR overhaul and move on. Look at Chris Brown who did what he did to Rihana’s face! If he is guilty or innocent he has much more power and resources to turn this around.
Good lord, that looks painful. I thought her filing a few days after his mom died was cold, but this changes my opinion. His divorce attorney has got her work cut out for her now (like she didn’t before). No prenup and domestic abuse (with photos and video evidence)? Yeah. Good luck, Johnny.
I am so so happy that Amber could come out of this situation. I personally know some people who were domestically abused and refused to leave their abusers due to whatever reasons.
Also I hope no one questions if she was really abused. That is gross and horrible and belittles the crime.
She seemed to have been putting some distance between them for some time. Remember she didn’t go with Johnny to Australia originally she stayed in LA. It was only after his “injury” and the big delay did she show up with him like a one big happy couple. According to Lainey Goosip that was happening a lot Amber in one place and Johnny in another.
I had a bad feeling something like this was going on. I am not a fan of Amber’s but no woman deserves to be abused by the man who is supposed to love her. I know there will be some hardcore Depp fans who try to call bs. In my opinion, everything about this situation now makes sense.
Not a fan either, but no one deserves this. And whatever her reasons for starting her relationship with him didn’t mean she had to stick around, even if it was ‘just’ addictions. And, having forgotten most of his rep from the 90’s, I thought it was probably just the addictions.
@mimi well put. I still think she’s kind of a brat, but I am really amazed by her bravery. If I was in her situation, I don’t think I could be strong enough to do what she’s doing. He has all the power and money, his mother just died, the public generally dislikes her…..so many excuses for her to stay, and she was still tough enough to get out and take decisive action. Bravo to her and I hope she can have a happy, healthy life with a good career once this is over.
Well, did anyone think this was a healthy relationship? Nothing that went down with these two would surprise me.
I hope his kids weren’t around.
This is going to get really messssy…
this isn’t exactly surprising either, wasn’t he known to get violent even when he was with kate moss?
He would really trash hotel rooms, like he was out of control, but I hadn’t heard he hit Kate.
I’m inclined to think that just because she never publicly said anything doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. She may have thought it was a career killer to disclose that.
He trashed the hotel room because he was drunk and fighting with Kate according to the police at the time. That could mean anything. Yelling? Probably. Hitting? Only those two know, and they’re not talking.
It’s scary to see somebody destroy things around you. Something can easily fly against the person. Sean Penn did it with Madonna too and her brother once took her to safety as he found it to be too scary not to protect Madonna from it.
Winona, who was just a baby when she started with Depp, also said her first boyfriend used to trash everything.
That’s such threatening behaviour, it’s DV too. That’s NOT a safe and loving space.
You don’t need to get hit to be abused. Men know exactly how to exert control over their victims. They don’t need words or even hit, there is so much behaviour that is classed as DV.
Depp also lied about trashing hotel rooms. Why if you didn’t mean harm or if it wasn’t bad? Dude always hid something.
@Artemis Yes. Someone who trashes a room while their romantic partner or family member is in the room with them is not just angry and destructive, their behaviour is intended to communicate, “look at how mad I am. You’re lucky it isn’t _you_ I’m being violent with.”
I agree that it’s still abusive towards the other person when you’re destroying things around them. My husband put up with that from his ex (who would make false accusations against him as well so I am quite aware that divorce and abuse accusations are not always what they seem) and it took years for him to really process what he had been putting up with. And she still got 50/50 custody even though police reports supported my husband’s explanations. So who knows what Johnny’s kids have been exposed to over the years.
Here is the problem with trial by internet, and @Artemis you better hope Sean Penn doesn’t see your post because apparently according to Penn the story about Madonna isn’t true. In fact, Lee Daniels was forced to write a long apology and settled the court case for similar allegations.
He had a reputation , before settling down with Vanessa, of being a hot head and jealous. This site http://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/amber-heard-says-johnny-depp-abused-her-throughout-their-marriage-has-photos-to-prove-it.php has some articles where he discuses how bad his jealousy was. I haveseen a few others were they talk about his reputation towards getting violent and angry when drinking, none say he did anything physical but couldn’t that have been covered up? Or maybe he just escalated with her?
Yeah, if true, this changes a lot of things. I agree, I hope that this will help to protect her if she was indeed in an abusive relationship.
Ditto.
Well it’s wrap for him. I can’t support him anymore.
Same.
I have never been a fan, but I do believe that a person is innocent until proven guilty. For me, when it gets this nasty, it is not a suitable topic for gossip, I will assume both of them are telling the truth and wait for a judge to decide.
agree with you jellybean.
I also agree with you.
Me too, and I really liked him but this is just too much. Having had an drunken mess abuser in my family, this strikes close to home.
And now everything about this situation makes sense, from the timing to why she was asking for money. Amber is sadly probably ending her career, he will blacklist her, and she has to know the humiliation and harassment is just about to start. She will be blamed and attacked.
If knowing all of these, she is willing to take her abuser down, she has all my respect from now on.
This is not fun anymore.
I don’t know how he behaved with Vanessa, but in this year I thought he was a drunk mess, now it comes out he was a violent drunk mess.
If other evidences come out we could be in front of another Mel Gibson mess.
I’m sorry for her,
Some people were saying that he never did things like this before but even if that was true it doesn’t mean he didn’t do it now. Some relationship dynamics can exacerbate dormant parts of our personalities. I’m not excusing him at all through, just stating that the argument “he never did this before, therefore this isn’t true” isn’t really a good one.
Thats the thing.. he has been violent before. He total had a reputation years ago of being a bad boy hot head. For example, he was arrested for tearing up a hotel. He’s just settled down since then so it kind of got forgotten about.
I just read more about this on Pajiba, they posted an excerpt of Kate Mosse’s biography and other info from the past. I had no idea how far that went:/
I said when she filed only two days after his mother died something major must have happened to cause that. I never expected it to be this major, escalating to violence. But I think Johnny has been out of control for a while, so drunk on red carpets, looking a bloated mess, his beyond condescending video he did for Australia regarding the dogs. That was the final straw for me. His attitude completely turned me off to him. Arrogant and entitled.
Yes, I thought it was very odd timing unless there were extenuating circumstances.
This whole ugly episode makes sense now. We have seen Depp fall apart in the last year. He probably thought this hot young thing was going to save him. So many pics of them on the red carpet, Amber looking miserable, like his handler, and Johnny looking like he was on the verge of collapse, sweaty, purple and degenerate. Imagine what he smelt like, pure ethanol. Can you imagine what it was like being with a raving drunk.?
Amber probably wanted to get out earlier but his management put the screws on her. Stay a little longer, just get through this press junket and opening weekend of his latest film. Imagine what he promised her before they married. he was going to cut down on the drinking, go to rehab for “exhsutation” and have a baby with her. He didn’t keep his end of the bargin.
Sh*t just got real. Gotdamn. This story just went from good gossip to horrible situation in no time. I’m curious to see how Johnny will be treated by the police, the press, Hollywood and the public after this. I wonder if he will be persona non grata like Chris Brown(rightly so) or golden boy like Woody Allen. Hmmm.
Press wont care or will think that he should be able to redeem himself like they do with Gibson
Yep. Which would go along with how the world works: White men always given the benefit of the doubt and chances after chances to make a comeback
I wouldn’t say anyone gave Mel Gibson a break….his career is dead…
Gibson’s career is dead
Aarika- Not just white men, plenty of black men too, especially athletes. Ray Rice, OJ Simpson. It has more to do with power and wealth than race.
It hasn’t really hurt Chris Brown that much, has it? He’s still collaborating with popular artists and being nominated for awards.
It’ll mess him up with Disney, but that’s about it.
But she does have video, so…this isn’t over.
CB is not nearly the artist that he could have been if he wasn’t a woman-beater. He just plateaued. He is aware of this and is constantly wining about it every chance he gets. Things should have been worst for him but he definitely suffered/been suffering some consequences for his vile actions.
Chris Brown did take a big hit but not enough to end his career (as it should have). Sad truth is people are fast to forget about this.
Rihanna publicly forgave him which made it easier for people to embrace him too. They were a cute couple and seeing them back again lessened the impact of DV as they went back to where they left off so to speak. Less guilt for people who defended CB in the first place.
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There’s also a difference- We know Rhianna- we love her and there was really no doubt what happened.
You bring up a good point. Sadly, I think because its “just” domestic violence, Depp will be forgiven. Mel’s involved racism + domestic violence and there were audio tapes so I think it made it harder for people to sweep under the rug. Even with how little doubt there was about Chris Brown, he still has a career and supporters. People will find a way to excuse Depp.
If I had to guess, I think what will happen is they will settle for some undetermined amount of money, and they will not talk about this. The public will never know the truth as there never will be a criminal charges. Some will believe him and some her, and her career which was probably limited to small side kick parts in movies will go for as long as her looks last, which in Hollywood isn’t very long unfortunately. She probably will receive a nice divorce settlement, and be fine financially. He is more of a question mark, because I honestly think he has bigger issues than this believe it or not. His addiction and whatever is going on with him seems to be ruining a once brilliant career and family life. Pretty cynical, but probably the truth.
My inicial thought reading the headline was: “this girl is going HARD for his money, girl know hows to husle”, specially since there never was even a small gossip on this matter or anywhere in her divorce papers, but now I just feel sorry for her. Paying her whatever she wants is the very least he could do.
If this was happening during their marriage, I’m really saddened by the fact that nobody tried to help both of them.
Johnny is clearly battling demons for a while now and he needs help.
He needs to check into rehab, sober up, apologize to this girl, and pay whatever consequences the law sees fit for a woman-beater. No matter how beloved he is, or how many drugs he takes, or how much he drinks, how rich he is, and how many people dislike Amber, she is still a victim, and there is no excuse for getting beaten by your husband, under any circunstances.
My heart breaks for her. She was already in an impossible situation where she was loathed and ridiculed. Many abusers start off the relationship with “love bombs” that sweep a person off their feet and everything seems so enchanted…until the abuse starts to creep in. In Amber’s situation, she couldn’t just bail because she was already perceived as a home wrecker, etc. and I am sure she tried to make it work to prove that their love was authentic.
Remember how Vanessa did not make any attempt to publicly implicate Amber nor did she appear to “fight” for the relationship? My guess is she was thrilled to have a way out.
Agree with you, Embee. Vanessa was very cool about Johnny leaving.
She looked cool and appeared cool in the media and that is easier with french privacy laws. Nobody knows what it was like for her on the inside.
Ok I can’t with this line of thinking. Vanessa being cool with Johnny leaving and not fighting for their relationship is proof of nothing.
My ex violently raped me. There were less traumatic episodes leading up to that. All this in a 6 month period of living together. Before I left I spent the month leading up to the day of telling him and actually leaving being quiet as a church mouse and telling our friends and my family it was because I wanted school and he didn’t agree. I didn’t let him touch me and was terrified every day. The day I left I never even looked back yet he practically ran after me to the door.
To everyone else, our friends who took us out to dinner before I left, everyone – he was ultra cool – before and after I left. He called me at my parents that first night. He called every other day after that for weeks. He sent me a valentine’s day card signed “Love”. I never called him or sent him a card. I was trying to move on.
My ex was still playing emotional abuse games with me after I left and no one knew. It was a traumatic experience for me and I had no support. Meanwhile his friends were partying with him and his new side piece within 2 days of my moving out apparently.
Nobody let on anything to me either. He had been cheating (I didn’t know) and the scars he gave me lasted the next 30 years. I’ve never married or had children. I trust virtually no one. He married her. They named their second child a male version of my name. They are both sick, twisted people. I’m glad I got away when I did and lived with him before I married him. We’d dated for years before and he’d never been abusive with me, until we lived together.
I share this very personal info only to prove – people who abuse, and their victims, anyone other than those two will never fully know what is happening. Both hide a lot for safety, self preservation, many different reasons. Not visibly fighting for a relationship means nothing.
I hadn’t even thought of that.. that Amber might have stayed because she felt pressure to make it work. You made some really good points.
I thought that when there is evidence, the police have to charge people who commit domestic violence, whether or not the victim wants to press charges. This is because so many victims are scared to press charges, or they retract their original claims due to fear.
In the least, wouldn’t there be an investigation if a call was made, and there are signs of abuse?
This is true, but it takes time (months) for charges to be filed when this happens. Some people were posting in another thread it takes a long time for this to happen in LA even though they personally did go ahead and cooperate with pressing charges. Restraining orders usually have to be extended multiple times as the time limits expire.
months? wow. i guess they can’t remove the victim from the home involuntarily. you’d think that they’d make the potential abuser leave for at least for 48 hours or something.
That was me Shannon and it’s all true…it took 5 months before my ex was charged and i had a broken arm and my son had an elephant man sized bump on his head and was concussed…The system is overburdened and not enough cops to investigate everything. In my case, once the cops left the hospital and went to our house, my ex was no where to be found, so he wasn’t brought in. At that point, then it’s investigating the claim….
Amber did good getting a 30 day TRO out of the gate…mine was only 2 weeks to start. She will be back in court within 30 days to get it extended I hope. She needs to keep getting it extended until charges are filed. The DA will file charges as it seems Amber will have enough evidence. Doesn’t matter if she chooses to file or not, since the Nicole Brown Simpson case.
Someone above posted about the ‘love bomb’ aspect and it’s true. Johnny is that type. I experienced the same. It’s cyclical too. That’s why she needs the TRO or he’d be calling her up to woo her back with promises it will never happen again…peppered in with telling her that ‘if only she hadn’t done ____, he wouldn’t have had to hit her” (her fault he abused her in essence)
It’s really sad now…sad smut as Lainey would say!!
The problem is it is hard to convict if the victim isn’t willing to say what happens, because the few minutes the police are there may not give the whole story. We have to work at creating systems where victims feel more comfortable that it will help not hurt them. Now the problem with this story is we are hearing things from LAPD through TMZ, LAPD hasn’t officially said anything. My only certainty with this story is we don’t know the whole story, and what we do know may be wrong.
This needs a criminal investigation, not trial by media.
YES. Domestic abuse allegations are a serious matter, not gossip fodder. But what can I expect from TMZ. They represent the very worst of our times.
It’s my understanding she didn’t take this to the media. She took it to court. Which speaks volumes.
It is well known that all court documents end up on TMZ. To what degree can a divorce court assess the validity of a claim like this? Can it have any impact on the settlement or is it just a question of settling quickly to avoid further revelations? I have only followed one celebrity divorce closely and the wife filed first, then filed three more documents full of accusations. It seems that none of those accusations were substantiated and none of the wife’s demands were met. So is there any come back if malicious accusations are made? If the accusations made are criminal in nature is it automatically referred to a criminal court or is it like those personal compensation cases where evidence requirements are lower?
Jellybean– so because court docs end up on TMZ, she shouldn’t file them? Give me a break.
At least in my husband’s experience nothing ended up being filed because there was zero evidence against him. You can definitely get away with making a lot of false claims in a divorce court. So I definitely understand the hesitation here. I would guess this is definitely going to be investigated and any charges that may be brought against him will have an impact in a separate trial as well as in these negotiations. BUT I will also say that abused celebrity women are often not treated kindly by the press and the public while the men are accepted after a redemption tour or simply letting time pass. So I think it’s actually kind of dangerous for her to even make the accusation.
Paleo – You make a valid point about the risk of making this accusation. I am sure she is an intelligent woman and I think I read that her father is a lawyer. That suggests she really does have some convincing evidence.
Rapunzel – Of course she should file, but I was responding to a comment that not contacting the media directly was significant. Comments sections on gossip sites like this routinely take leaks from sworn court statements as PR moves and they are often presented in articles as statements made directly to the press. It is impossible to know the truth without a full criminal trial, so it is best believe everyone and nobody. I am going to take my own advice and leave this topic alone. Bye!
Totally .
Isn’t it interesting how in all the other divorce posts everyone was hurling insult after insult at Amber completely blaming her.
You don’t know what it’s like in a marriage unless you’re in it. Emotional abuse for example isn’t visible from the outside and it leaves no bruises.
Sad news.
I was firmly corrected yesterday by two commenters for using Charlie Sheen as my example of how even substance abusers can still hold more power in a relationship than their “enabler.” Apparently by using such a strong example I was allegedly calling Depp an abuser (I apologized for that, as I meant no such thing, it was a rather thoughtless example). Today, this news.
Yup, someone fussed at me for using the word “volatile” to describe him, and discounted the fact that he trashed hotel rooms and attacked paparazzi in the past. Apparently that was so long ago that it no longer counts toward his character. And I didn’t even say he had abused her! I was just saying “maybe his behavior contributed to this divorce.” People are unbelievable apologists.
Yep. I was on her side even before this, because I could sense a lot of their relationship dynamic though the photos we have seen these past 2 years. And they pointed solidly toward her as the caretaker and him as the mess. But honestly, I didn’t think it was this bad. He needs to STOP trying to rescue himself by trashing her credibility – shades of Chris Brown and Mel Gibson here.
So far there are accusations by her which should be duly taken seriously and investigated.
But that ain’t no complete court-proof judgement yet. Let’s wait and see. I won’t call her a liar yet and I won’t call Depp an abuser yet.
Whatever floats your boat Dingdong.
Right ? People climbing over themselves to believe the image of vapid seductress that Depp’s PR sold.
No one deserves to be abused, but the fact that she has been a victim of domestic violence doesn’t make her a saint. I still think she married him for the wrong reasons.
I agree GNAT.
And now the countdown to rehab clock starts ticking…
That makes me mad he should have been in rehab along time ago not after this comes to light.
See how power works? With that LAPD story…no wonder women don’t speak up.
And most women are not dealing with the media bashing, so add that… I’ve seen the Dailymail images of her crying inside the car and well, if this is a huge conspiracy )which I doubt because she has a lot to lose and no leverage) she is actually a great actress, it totally broke me to see her loosing it:/
Oh shut up! She’s the female lead in Aquaman, and is appearing in Justice League. She’s getting comic book money.
So ?
Farah was probably replying to a now-deleting comment that was trolling.
That, I assume, was in reply to a deleted comment that said Amber’s career was over and this was all a desperate attempt at making money.
Some coward accused her of lying for money.
Your name kind of says it all. Come on, this isn’t the kind of place where people get nasty.
Well TMZ is now reporting that LAPD says that there was no evidence of physical injuries!! And they even post an Instagram she posted on Sunday where she looks fine. This is very bad IF the violence accusations are bogus, she can end up with almost nothing.
Because bruises take time to form. If someone punches you very hard you do not get a bruise then and there. Also there must have been enough evidence to grant the restraining order so TMZ can take their misogynistic bullshit somewhere else.
It’s like people all of a sudden forget how bruising works! My friend fell down the stairs in the evening and had nothing. First thing in the morning she gets into the shower: massive bruising on her breasts! A bit of common sense is needed.
Yes, deep bruising does take time to form significantly. But blunt trauma, such as one would get with an object hit against the body (per her allegations) would be visible enough even at the beginning because of subcutaneous bleeding. That is why when you slap someone, there is immediate redness. The bruising that forms below the skin and darkens would take a few days.
She also has a laceration, a small one. That would have been apparent right away too.
Sorry, this would be visible to LAPD the night of the incident.
@drnotknowitall so she you are saying she is lying ? Because an actual court that could see her and her injuries granted her a restraining order. So I will urm not believe you
@cornyblue
No, I am not saying she is lying. I am saying there is a serious discrepancy here and that the LAPD either failed to properly examine her or she is lying.
As for the court granting a restraining order, I don’t think you understand how that works. They don’t call in medical experts to examine her.
I don’t really care if you don’t believe me. But thanks for sharing I guess?
@drnotknowitall welcome sweety 🙂
If she did not allow them to examine her, how could they have seen the laceration? It seems that the police get called in the heat of the moment, and by the time they arrive, the abuser has had time to re-exert his control. Certainly could have been the same old story with this case.
drknowitall, aren’t you the Woody Allen apologist from the thread a couple weeks ago? Why am I not surprised you’d be taking up for Depp.
Makes me wonder if you’re a PR plant.
This is actually a good thing not bad, but now you really don’t need a lot of evidence to get a restraining order. Although, unfortunately, in most cases a restraining order is useless, as most of us don’t have paparazzi following us. It should be that way, as the allegation should be enough, as it doesn’t really hurt the accused and it could possibly save the accusers life.
It bothers me that people who disagree with a case through the media are thought of as apologists or for the various crimes and the accused. Remember no one is seeing this story impartially with all the facts, and it really is someone’s opinion who disagrees with you.
The pic they posted shows her hair completely covering the area where she is bruised, and she’s wearing makeup. And first TMZ claimed the LAPD said there was no investigation, and now they’re claiming the LAPD said there was no evidence of physical injuries… How would they know that if there hasn’t been an investigation? Wouldn’t one have to investigate something to come to that conclusion? Besides, how dumb would Amber have to be, to fake an injury after being seen in public without one?
Fu-k Depp. Just fu-k him. These denials just come off as exactly what an abuser would say. “she’s fine in that picture”? Smdh…that proves nothing. Many victims hide abuse with makeup. An innocent man would be appalled by these accusations. Only a true abuser would have his blame the victim argument at the ready. He knew this was coming. He tried to shame her into silence with his PR narrative. Now he’s trying to scare her into not making this worse. Disgusting.
Her people claim to have video evidence of the abuse. So she has that on her side despite the LAPD report.
Honestly the fact that her hair is covering that side of her face in that photo makes me believe it even more. It looks strategically styled to hide swelling/bruising.
That’s what I thought, too. That pic is pretty damning.
The Instagram photo from Sunday is the one where her hair covers her eye. Having been abused growing up and then once & only once from a boyfriend as an adult.. I recognize the signs of trying to appear normal while covering bruises, I’m willing to bet behind that hair is an eye with bruising.
It looks like Amber strategically placed her hair over her eye to hide the bruises….
“Anonymous sourcing claiming to be connected to the LAPD” means nothing. Could be Depp’s publicist. At best a dirty cop, because what legitimate person would sell info on a criminal case to TMZ? And the Instagram pic is at the top of this post and actually supports her claim, and she’s obviously covering the side of her face in a peculiar way.
WTF, her hair in the photo from the next day is obviously covering her big eye bruise. Are there actually people saying ooo look, there is no bruise! Twisted.
This starting to ring like Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards. When she filed for divorce and made allegations so many people defended him and called her a liar and every name in the book. Turns out she was right. Bruises do take time to form unless it’s a cut and she could have covered it up with enough makeup and her hair, especially since she was going to a party and obviously didn’t want to explain the markings knowing that this was coming. I doubt if she was in it for the money and nothing was going on that she would have filed now. Why not wait it out a few more years? I’m also loving the back tracking people are doing now that this is out and it makes me sad that people still feel the need to start their comments with how they don’t like her.
That is a ridiculous & completely ill informed statement. There are many documented cases of people staying with their abusers for a myriad of reasons.
One can never know the reason someone chooses to stay. It could be they thought it was a one time thing, that they’re in love & one thought they could change the other, the shame of admitting he or she is being abused.
The truth will come out eventually but I don’t think it does any one any good to judge the abused on the choices they make. If she was abused as she says, I feel very badly for her and I hope Johnny gets help.
I hope she is safe and I hope she is being supported. Depp can f*ck right off.
Good god TMZ has pictures of her leaving court and I am sitting in my desk crying. And people will still not believe her. Like why is the world so damn cruel to women???
TMZ is disgusting and represents the very worst of our times. They are the pinnacle of indecency. You know society is fucked up when you see people getting PAID for doing the shit they do.
TMZ will side with Depp. He has the money and power.
Those pics of her crying in the car are heartbreaking. I can’t imagine what she’s going through right now.
It totally broke me to see that. What a great actress she is after all if this isn’t true.
I think people still won’t believe her because there are stunt queens who diminish the real life plight of real victims. I think actors also have a hard time because they curate an image of a perfect life and they are actors, so they are able to ‘act’ crying, sad and injured. It’s a double edged sword for them.
Are you a man ?
Also she is definitely not a good enough actor to have faked that much emotion but keep trying
Yes, it is absolutely true that sometimes alleged victims are actually lying about being abused. People will lie about their kids being abused to gain an advantage in a divorce. About anything. I don’t know who I believe is telling the truth here.
You sound exactly like my abusive uncle*:
“Of course I don’t inmediately believe a women who says she is harass in the metro. Many of them are just trying to get attention…”
* who turned into a violent assh0le every time he drank.
Hey guys, I don’t think oh dear is saying that’s what he/she believes. Just saying it’s harder for people to believe actors cause their job is acting.
I don’t believe this myself – I do think that some people think that way. I posted an explanation that related to my sister being in an abusive relationship, but it didn’t make it through moderation.
I believe there are very complicated relationships, and I imagine this is one of them based on his previous behaviour and her comments about going trailer park. I also think there are pre-conceived notions held by people that make it hard for victims to get their story heard. But in no way do I condone violence between any 2 parties.
Thanks @snowflake for trying to help me clarify.
Not only are there people who won’t believe her, there are people who will believe her and not care. Sickening.
People are just keeping on cross examining her entire statement, her photo her eveything like dammit accept that Johnny Depp who you adore is an abuser and actually side with the abused like a decent person
Oh that pic of her openly bawling just about broke my heart. Even her friend looks like she’s about to cry, the way you would when someone you care about is losing themselves in tears.
I saw those pictures too and really don’t think she is faking this at all. She looks genuinely distraught in those photos, poor girl. I just want to wrap her in my arms for a big hug and tell her she’s going to be OK.
I can’t imagine anyone putting themselves through this level of public scrutiny and scorn if it’s wasn’t real. Also, if there really is video of him abusing her – that is only going to bolster her claim.
Sending her strength and courage to get through what is going to be a rough road for a while.
Exactly what I thought. No matter wether you think she’s telling the truth about the abuse or not, she was obviously distraught in those pictures.. I just felt so bad for her. God, this whole thing is a mess and I really feel for her.
Johnny Depp is a goddamn pig.
Pugundo – I think you have summed it up perfectly.
It’s Curtains for your makeup and bloat scarves wearing ass My G!
Idk sis. Chris Brown still sings every hook for every artist, Woody Allen is sti employed, and Mel Gibson just left Cannes…….. He might be screwed NOW, but in a few years? Hollywood consistently shows they have no qualms about supporting abusive, gutter a** human beings.
And frankly the general public shows it too. Their work is being supported. People are still paying to see/listen to these people. How many times did Charlie Sheen have to show who he is really is and the public still ate up Two and a Half Men!
Or Chris Brown isn’t nearly as popular as he was before he hit Rhianna. Woody Allen is making small level films with a small audience with many people screaming out about his abuse of his daughter, and Mel Gibson’s career has been in the tank for a while now and he is too old now to probably rejuvenate it. Many decades ago no one would know that any of these men were even accused of anything. Whereas the punishments may not be satisfactory, they have lost something and the world has improved we really are making progress at least in the conversation.
In order to help the average person, not just the Hollywood elite, we should really look at changing our justice system so more victims feel comfortable to pursue charges in order to have a more just system of punishment, and have laws that have more teeth to protect the victims. Also, for some of these people who are obviously addicts we have a system that identifies and helps them before they may abuse a person.
Disney has to be wondering how to handle this. They have a lot of money invested in Depp (he’s so establishment even though he tries to play it different) so they could make this disappear for him, but what sort of family-friendly image would that project, burying domestic abuse allegations? There must be so many emails and memos flying around Disney PR right now.
I feel sorry for his daughter all this sh*the hitting the fan on her birthday. Who knows if she ever witnessed this behavior and if she didn’t to find it out today that’s got to be rough.
She would probably know. Children are very perceptive specially relating to stuff about their parents.
I feel terrible for saying this but Lily-Rose just does not look like a healthy and happy kid to me. My heart breaks for her in recent pics. I don’t know whether she is being affected by all the stress, whether (God forbid) she is being mistreated in the home or if she is simply dealing with her own issues that are completely unrelated. Any way it goes my heart and prayers go out to her.
I sure hope she is ok.
So according to TMZ amber had no evidence of any injuries at all when the cops came to her home. And she was tagged in a pic showing she was partying the day after the attack, picture that has been since deleted.
But she says she has videos of him beating her up so this will be easy to prove.
That is not her actual insta. I dont think she has one.
If she has videos. Yet to be seen.
Honestly I hope that video, if it exists is never shared. Photos are already too much, a video of Depp being violent with Heard will be online forever:/ If he is proven guilty, sadly some people will only believe it if they see it:/
TMZ is so anti-woman that I want a Gawker-like debacle to bring them DOWN. This has been going on for years over there. Disgusting disgusting disgusting.
What!!! I’m slow on the up keep Gawker is trying to shutdown TMZ? I truly hope they succeed TMZ and the people they employ are disgusting bottom feeders.
No, I think she’s referring to the lawsuits against Gawker, not that Gawker’s trying to take TMZ down.
That is a weak ass argument from his camp. Partying in that Instagram photo? I see a woman with her friends.
Let’s not forget that when he was with Kate Moss, they were known to have screaming matches at each other and wasn’t he arrested and/or escorted out of a hotel for trashing it after getting into a fight with Moss?
So he trashed the hotel but not Kate Moss? Sorry, but I try to figure out if there were claims of domestic violence against Depp before.
I find these domestic violence claims by Amber Heard a bit … I don’t quite buy it. Heather Mills claimed domestic violence, too, it just didn’t help her much in her divorce against McCartney.
The judge did grant the order, since very rich celebrities are able to come and go as they please and quite quickly (you’d think TMZ might know that).
This may all be news to us. But with some digging, it’s not new to Depp. Take this from the Kate Moss biography Addicted to Love:
http://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/amber-heard-says-johnny-depp-abused-her-throughout-their-marriage-has-photos-to-prove-it.php
I had DV from my caretaker. It’s a scary situation to be in the same room with somebody who is breaking down what should be a safe space. To this day (it started when I was 8 and I’m 26 now), I still am too mindful of other people trying not to upset them and keeping them happy in order to feel in control because I don’t want them to blow up.
If you don’t feel safe, it’s abuse. End of. It’s not because the abuse isn’t physically directed at you, that it’s less scary. Also, objects could land against your body. Even if that wasn’t the intention, the outcomes are DV.
To Artemis-
My dad did the same thing. We would be in the garage and he would start having a tantrum and he would throw his tools into the walls and the door. And I can personally guarantee you that this is EVERY BIT as terrifying and emotionally scarring as being hit! Plus he once ended up beating me with a shovel during one of these “tantrums” so this whole excuse of “just because someone trashes a hotel room does not mean they are violent” is just BS. The fact is that these episodes can and do escalate from striking objects to striking a person and the jump is not that far.
It actually doesn’t matter if he didn’t hit a woman before. In my experience (DV is something we had dealt in my family) it doesn’t necessarily shows up every time. My uncle who is an alcoholic got physically violent with his first wife, but never touched his second wife or third wives, yet both divorced him because of emotional abuse and the fear he might hit them because he gets violent and trash things when he drinks.
My point is, Johnny might had been abusive yet not physically violent in previous relationships, and for whatever reason his conduct towards Amber turned physically violent.
“Partying.” Spending the evening with good friends the day after her marriage ends for good. This is a very normal thing to do, no matter _how_ a marriage ends. Conscious uncoupling, cheating, domestic violence — spend time in the warm support of your friends.
@Livvers: yeah, no kidding! it’s disheartening seeing the language the media is using to cover this story.
does it matter what he did with KM? you can have the nicest guy turn into beast, just like you can have someone trash a whole house, without hurting anyone.
the fact is that he did hurt his wife. the fact is that her famous female friends probably knew about this. but women are weird and scared all the time. so, AH did the right thing and that is the truth.
i know this is a gossip site, fun and games, but when ***t gets real its time to look at things objectively. his past is irrelevant (cos you can find millions of guys who had no violence in their past but they start beating the cr*p out of their wives/girlfriends out of the bloom or so it seems), he hurt his wife. did he do it on purpose? was it the first time? was he under influence? does she have support system? we do not know. but women need to learn to stick together, cos that is the only way to take power from men who think they are entitled. famous or not.
I still think she cannot act and she married him cos he was Depp. BUT, what he did is an attack. the fact that she is scared for her dog says lot more than anything we cannot prove about his past.
also, I do not think she deserves money, apart for the therapy. cos that would be his way of redemption, in his eyes. just like I do think he should not work until this whole mess is settled (jail and therapy ). but it is Hollyweird and he will continue to work as usual, she will get paid off like a piece of meat.
Yeah she looks like an abuse victim trying to keep up appearances and hide the abuse. Badly. With a giant, obvious hunk of hair over her injuries. I’m surprised Johnny’s people pointed out that picture as evidence against her because it makes me believe her story even more. Why on earth else would she completely obscure one eye with her hair? It doesn’t look at all messy-chic or accidental.
Yeah, it seems very much like gaslighting, IMO. Personally if I were falsely accused of DV I’d be at the court immediately filing a defamation claim.
LOL partying. Looks like a back garden, sunday morning breakfast birthday party for one of her girlfriends.
I also feel sorry for lily rose and jack.
Drknowitall…bruises take time to form. And the court granted the restraining order, which means they saw evidence.
I feel so sick. I’m legitimately angry, heartbroken, and sick over this. I was purely on Johnny’s side yesterday, because I’m a die-hard Johnny Stan. However, I cannot in good concience question another woman who claims to have been abused. Every facet of society is already against women who claim to be DV victims, so I cannot add to that by even calling her story into question. As much as she’s grated on me, I hope she’s okay. My heart is with her.
And Johnny… You rat bastard. I am so f*cking mad at you. I loved your talent, your characters, your art, and your cheekbones. I fell in love with Edward Scissorhands, Wade Walker, Ichabod Crane, Jack Sparrow… The list goes on. And if this is true, it’s all ruined. I could legitimately sob, as dramatic as that sounds. It’s bad enough that you’ve ruined yourself through alcohol and drugs, but now you’ve ruined every beautiful character you played. You’ve ruined the self-confidence, security, and pride of a woman who did not deserve it. How could you?? How f*cking could you? I’m sick.
THANK YOU. I am just bereaved right now, like I had to take a Valium. I just am so upset! I I know you take things really personally and cry a lot, Shambles, so {{{hugs}}} to you right now during this difficult time.
Johnny is a cheater, not a beater. She knew she was going to lose everything and had to fire something off to save herself from the negative publicity. Look at her bruise, it’s square. If I threw a phone at you, you would have a much deeper bruise on the impact site, with a lighter bruise (if any bruise at all) on the bottom side of where impact occurred. One look at the girl, shows she’s not the trustworthy type. If he was a beater, she would have filed reports months ago. They haven’t been happy for a long time. Don’t believe everything you read. Use your intuition here folks….
Did she say he threw it at her face? She says he hit her in the face with his iPhone. I interpreted that as striking her face with it in his hand, and the mark looks just like that.
She didn’t say he threw it at her, she said he hit her with it, so still in his hand when he did it.
And using my intuition that you want us to use, I’m intuiting that you’re a troll.
Did you file police reports the first time you were abused? Did you leave your abuser the first time you were abused?
“One look at the girl, shows she’s not the trustworthy type.” Wow, that sounds empirical.
Also, how have you not seen the immediate cascade of negative publicity this created?
Very telling that you are male.
I am not a bruising expert, so I have a question too – not to discredit her her, but it seems like and inconsistency and I would like clarification. Why is the bruising and scratching that was at the top of her cheek by her eye in the Saturday pic gone during her court appearance pic, but there is a bruise lower on her cheek instead?
I am glad she has documentation though. So many women don’t. My sister keeps refusing to document the abuse her ex-husband throws her way during their exchanges.
The red, iPhone-shaped mark is the initial impact mark from Saturday night, and the mark you see at the court date on Friday is what the mark transitioned into. I have no trouble seeing that as different stages of the same injury over almost one week.
If you look at bigger versions of the pics, and especially at the ones where her head is tilted down, you can see the bruising around her eye, a bit faded but exactly as it was in the pic taken after the abuse.
As someone working in forensics: The blood flows down because of gravitation in tissue like that. So usually the bruise will be a bit lower than the initial wound. That’s really noticeable with face wounds.
thanks for the answers ladies. And for not shaming me for asking.
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And @Ana A – kudos to you. You have a very heartwrenching job.
Chris Brown?
Hah! I was typing the same thing while you posted. Great minds, and all that.
Chris Brown, is that you?
+1000000
To me the bruise looks exactly like the flat side of a phone hit her in the eye hard.
“If he was a beater, she would have filed reports months ago.”
@Chris – I STRONGLY disagree with your statement. What you’re implying is that victims must behave a certain way if they’re telling the truth. That the perfect victim of domestic abuse is the only victim we will accept. That if a person doesn’t behave in a way that matches your preconceived notions of how a truthful, “real” victim would act, then they must be lying. That there is a “right” and a “wrong” way for a victim to act and present themselves, or otherwise they are full of sh!t. Well, I call bullsh!t on that.
I was coming here to rant off about the “If he was a beater…” too but saw your comment – you got this, what you said!
Of course a man would defend a women beater. Disgusting.
NO a MAN would never defend a woman abuser (beater). I think it is important to note the difference . A MAN stand behind and with women.
There are plenty of women who defend abusers, too, let’s not kid ourselves. Society in general treats DV victims terribly, male or female.
Yeah, I am using my intuition, …. he’s a beater. Thanks.
I hope everyone remembers what a POS he is this weekend when deciding to see his movie, next year when Pirates 5 comes out, and anything he ever does in the future. If everyone supporting Amber on this site can boycott his movies, and get their family and friends to do so, and so on… well then maybe he will be brought to task.
I dont think I will ever be able to look at a picture of Depp without remembering the picture of Amber crying in her car, let alone seeing an entire movie with that arse
Agreed.
Same. Did you watch the video of her walking to the car? She looks dazed/in shock.
Boycott Is on. I can’t stand to look at him anymore anyway. Amber looks like she hasn’t slept in days. The pictures of her breaking down in the car are sad. I hope she comes out of this ok.
This is…I don’t have words for what this is, honestly. I hope she’s okay. As for him, I don’t even know what to say. Part of me wants to wait until the whole truth is out, but the other part feels like it already is.
I don’t know who I believe.
And is terrible that I feel this way because I am all for women support, especially women involved in domestic violence. But something seems off.
I just hope someone will come up with alibis or explanation. Not Depp or Amber but people from their past or their present lives to put right what it seems so wrong.
Also, genuine question, is it not considered non-sensical to ask for a restraining order and at the same time spousal support? Wouldn’t it be more logical to get away, further possible, from the person who physically abused you?
I am just asking. without snark or anything. Just genuine asking.
Something is really really off. I wouldn’t want to take pictures with my friends the day after I’d been hit. Especially if I had marks and bruises on my face. Or remember that moment because that is why you take the picture with your friends. To save that moment in time. Or because you’re very happy.
From the psychological point of view something seems not ok. I hope she is not lying because this would be the end of her.
I don’t think she’s lying, but it is probably complicated. Given how much he helped her career, I think at first everyone was put off by her request for spousal support. But maybe she feels like she’s been through a lot at the hands of a powerful A-lister, and deserves it. She clearly cares about money and the H’wood lifestyle, but that still doesn’t mean she’s lying.
I think she is asking for spousal because she probably knows this was career suicide for her.
It’s the norm for spouses to ask for spousal support (alimony). The exception is not to seek it, esp in “no fault” jurisdictions (not sure if Cali is one or not, I’m from Canada and we have no fault divorce). It doesn’t make someone a gold digger (I know you didn’t say it did, just putting that out there). It’s what most people do.
As I wrote on another post, why did she wait to get a restraining order until after all the negative publicity about her filing for divorce right after his mom died? And those photos of her in Court… No makeup, hair straight, looking like she’s trying to get sympathy (read, money). If she would have come into court looking like her normal self, then I would believe her.
Did you ever think perhaps she waited until he was out of the country, and therefore less able to physically harm her/retaliate?
Ah yes. Time to convince iheartjacksparrow that Johnny Depp is most probably an abuser.
Ha I wrote the same, didn’t see your comment
Something rings really off for me too. I don’t know what to think. I really loathe him but I’m not sure why I’m having trouble believing her.
Yes! There is something off about this situation.
I don’t want to attack or pick a side¨ but, how convenient that she ¨hides¨ her bruise in the photo (as everyone says she is) and outside the court she is bare faced, no sunglasses, dress in black with her hands together, I mean she has to show her face inside but why show your worst most private situation to the paparazzi? And, why reveal the divorce first? why not the domestic violence which is more important than the money? If she wanted to keep that part private, why do everything I said in the beginning?
I never hear any victims of other crimes scrutinized and judged this closely.
I’m in the fashion business, I know what you have to do to imply certain feeling or theme. I didn’t scrutinized, it’s what I instantly noticed. I honestly opened the link ready to blame Depp but what I wrote was instant and confusing.
I don’t think asking for spousal support and a restraining order is strange. You hit me so I shouldn’t get any of your money? I guess I just don’t see why those two are mutually exclusive.
I did, at first question wanting to stay in the family home if there was abuse but then realized that she shouldn’t have to leave, if its their home together she has just as much a right to it as he does. The restraining order means he can’t (legally) come to their house and hit her while she’s there so she might feel safer there.
As for the picture with friends, often DV victims want to pretend it didn’t happen. They don’t know how to react for a while. They want to find some normalcy. When my dad would hit us, I would still go to school. I would still do things with my friends. Often, immediately afterwards. So I wouldn’t have to think about it. So I could think about anything else but that. If someone had taken a picture of me then I would have looked happy, but when you are getting hit in your own home you get really good at pushing emotions and hurt way down.
I’m not saying he didn’t abuse her but didn’t she cite ¨irreconcilable differences¨. why?
It seems off to me as well. She feared for her life in December but files for divorce in May asking for 50 grand a month spousal support and citing irreconcilable differences. I hope she plays the video so we can get a true picture of her DV hell.
So she was with her girl friends and smiling Sunday after the abuse, maybe she wanted some normalcy or strength from her friends. I was abused growing up and carried bruises quite a bit, only my best friend knew (as we got older she helped me cover them up with makeup I could wash off before I went home), my principal in high school (didn’t get involved in those days), and my immediate family, and my high school sweet heart (now ex husband). Trust me you learn quick how to camouflage bruises or Lil tricks to hide behind if you don’t really want photos to show bruising. The photo in question covers the very eye that shows bruising in the photo submitted to the court. If she faked it, that’s quite an elaborate sceme & a dimwit of a judge then. Johnny really pursued her & I’ve read over the years he’s passionate and has a temper (I’ve also read he is very sweet as well). Classic signs I my experience from my home life growing up (even as an adult it’s now emotional abuse) and an ex boyfriend I briefly dated after my ex husband and I divorced. Passion and obsession (pursuing relently) can ride a fine line with abuse and violence, throw charming in the mix the outsiders don’t believe it even when shown evidence. My parents are still so sweet to everyone they meet, yet to this day I still get mentally & emotionally torn to shreds & my siblings & I are played against each other. I refuse to play the game so I’m the black sheep. I’ve had to obtain a restraining order (the ex boyfriend), they don’t hand those out lightly. I’m a huge JD fan & could see the drugs & alchol escalating that passionate nature to violent behavior quickly. I’ve seen alchol do it too many times. I hope they both get the help they need and do not play this out in the media. He needs rehab & learn how to deal with his abusive behavior. If things were even worse during their brief marriage then she should seek counseling. I say that because she was reluctant during their engagement.. Maybe the signs were already there that he was abusive, we don’t know. But if so, she needs to work out why she didn’t trust her own instincts and gave in. (not saying it’s her fault, it’s never the victims fault).
I’m with you here. I grew up in a violent household. No-one knew. Everyone was surprised when it emerged. People get good at hiding this stuff.
This whole thing is so f*cking triggering. I still think she married him for his money and fame. But I don’t think she (or any woman for that matter), married him to have the sh*t beaten out of her. Beyond the pale.
This! I just posted a reply saying some similar things. I too grew up in an abusive home and learned that people don’t react how you logically think they would. I have three siblings and all four of use handled it totally differently. But the one commonality was we all did anything to get out of the house, to try to feel normal. That often meant going out with friends. None of use advertised what was happening, thats just not a part of what it means to be a victim of DV.
Okay, two things here:
1. The LAPD has NOT said their was no evidence of injury. TMZ’s LAPD sources said it. That’s a very different thing. There has been no official statement of this, nor has any police report verified it.
2. If Amber was faking, why would she include the dog in the restraining order application? Seriously, why would a faker go there?
My intuition says she truthful. Explains her timing of filing, explains his responses to the filing, and explains why she broke down at court. Or did she all of a sudden become a great actress?
Actually, implying he would hurt the dog seems strange. Why would he do that? The only thing I can think of is that maybe he threatened to when in a rage. Regardless, she clearly loves the dog and wants custody without having to interact with him. And if he did threaten to hurt the dog, she should get it! I do think she’s telling the truth; I’m just trying to puzzle out the dog piece.
some crazy people would hurt someone’s pet just to get to them. They can’t touch the owner so they get revenge on the pet.
Threatening to abuse and/or actually abusing a pet is standard practice for abusers. They use the threat of it to control their victims.
We don’t know what went down between them with the dogs issue in Australia which was apparently her fault. She must have her reasons, I give her the benefit of the doubt.
The horrific abuse pictures of Nicole Brown Simpson keep flashing in my mind. This whole situation makes me physically ill. God Bless Nicole, and I’m glad Amber was able to get out and get the support of the court. Her future could have had tragic consequences.
https://www.romper.com/p/photos-of-nicole-browns-alleged-abuse-from-oj-simpson-were-hidden-in-her-safety-deposit-box-4885
Wow. This paints the whole thing in a very different light. Whatever her motivation for the marriage, she doesnt deserve to be abused and assaulted.
+123
Third this.
Anyone deserves this violence ( gold digger or not) .Shame on you ,Depp!
Depp clearly needs a rehab!
I’m out.
The execs at Disney must be crapping bricks. I hope Johnny’s contract has some kind of morals clause so he doesn’t get a big, fat payout from Alice and Pirates.
Shaking my head!
Some of the comments here really sadden me!
This story just turned sour very quickly.
I feel so sorry for Amber. The humiliation,
the pain, the disgust, panic and much
More. I’m so glad she has the courage to
Leave and to expose it, knowing it will backfire on her!!
I hope she is okay and has supporting
People around her. She is going to
need it.
The humiliation. If this is true for an anonymous woman imagine someone famous going against someone so loved as Depp. I may be wrong, but I can’t see what she has to gain with this if it isn’t true. The shame this kind of thing brings to the victims being exposed like this… I just can’t.
It will be interesting to see if the majority of the media will give JD the Chris Brown treatment.
Spoiler alert: They won’t.
I posted the same below.. missed this comment.
And I can see that it is not going to be the same.. I see excuses and people spinning around and around to find ways to make it acceptable and blame Amber. Why she didn’t do this or that. When did this happen. I don’t see anyone screaming to boycott Johnny’s movies. Or calling him names. I don’t see the same passion when it was Chris Brown.
so no Johnny Depp will never be treated in the media or society the way Chris Brown did or is to this day.
I don’t know it depends what happens. Keep in mind Rhianna was more famous than Chris at the time it happened, and he did basically say he did it and serve a sentence of some sort. Now Depp probably won’t admit it and she will probably settle for money in the divorce and won’t go after him criminally after this. If that happens it will just be conjecture, but if it gets uglier and she goes after him criminally who knows.
I posted a similar comment above, but will say this again.
To everyone asking questions such as:
“Why didn’t she press charges?”
“Why didn’t she leave months ago?”
“Why was she out with her friends the next day?”
etc
What you are implying with such comments is that victims MUST behave a certain way, and only then are they telling the truth. That the perfect victim of domestic abuse is the only victim we will accept. That if a person doesn’t behave in a way that matches your preconceived notions of how a truthful, “real” victim would act, then they must be lying. That there is a “right” and a “wrong” way for a victim to act and present themselves, or otherwise they are full of sh!t. Well, I call bullsh!t on that.
Secondly, the motivations for the marriage are irrelevant. Perhaps she married him for money and fame. Perhaps he married her for her youth and beauty. She may not have married him if he was poor and unknown. He might not have married her if she was 50 and unattractive. It doesn’t matter.
It doesn’t mean he can hit her (allegedly).
Amazing comment
THIS.
I fully believe that she’s a total gold digger, who married him for money and to boost her career, but I don’t care if she’s the biggest user on the planet, it doesn’t mean she deserves physical abuse or excuse him hurting her. He’s old emough to be her Father and is obviously going through a midlife crisis and certainly appears to have major issues. He also has a history of trashing hotel rooms when drunk. Not exactly stable behaviour. I hate it when people try to imply that women ( or men ) who say they’ve been abused, have to tick off the right behaviour boxes in order to be believed. It’s cruel and completely unfair.
Thanks…. I’m so tired of seeing (alleged) victims called out on their behavior not being exactly how someone expects. There was too much of that with the Cosby case, and in Canada the Jian Ghomeshi case. Is there some Perfect Victim Playbook out there that they need to comply with?
I know it is odd, but people always assume they know how you are supposed to act and they can tell from looking at the small glimpses of these celebrities lives that we see that we know them and understand their actions. News flash to everyone people are different and generally won’t behave how you expect all the time celebrity or not. Having worked with a fair amount of celebrities over the years, I will tell you none of them were what I expected. Some for the better and some for the worse.
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Ok I am going to get slammed for this but I really want to say that sometimes people lie. I HAD a very best friend,we grew up together went to school together and even lived together after college. She was a drama queen but I loved her and she was always true and honest with me(so i thought). Anyway she began dating another very close friend of ours and everything seemed wonderful. They dated for 2 years and i ignored him when he would say things like “she is too dramatic” “she really needs to calm it down”. I thought well you knew she was that way and I blew it off. When they began having real issues in the relationship I believed her when she told me that when he would drink he was aggressive. I believed her when she told me she was afraid of him and I took her side and blamed him when she showed me a big bruise on her thigh. I cussed him out and ignored his protests that he never touched her until I hear her on the phone with him say ” everyone will believe me and not you. I can always hurt myself worse and you will pay for it” I was stunned and hurt and shocked. We are no longer friends ,I think that before any of us pass judgement we should hear and see all evidence. JMO
You are an anon on the internet sharing stories that might very well not be true compared to real evidence one can see in Amber’s case
Well their are others on this site sharing stories about them being in abusive relationship or knowing someone who was in an abusive relationship. You seem to have know problem believing them when they too are just anonymous people on a blog sharing storie, why is this one so different.
I’m inclined to believe JD hit AH, not just because of the bruise but because frankly I think she has a lot more to lose than gain with the accusation and because of his history of violence. However, I do understand some skepticism if you have been a part of the situation Tanga has described. My husband’s ex pulled several similar stunts. Her accusations have made it impossible for her to maintain any relationships with his family and he is barely cordial to her. I’ve struggled to separate her past behavior from still being respectful to her as my SS’s mom. Trust me, if you have known people who are this manipulative and vindictive it does make you think twice when you hear a claim of abuse. And that’s why those false accusations are so damaging.
How would you feel if a man punched you in the face, and you told someone, and they completely dismissed your experience by reciting a story like this despite seeing the bruise on your face?
Yes, people do lie. About lots of things. There is a process in place in the justice system to sort that out with dv and sa cases. Let that happen and accept the outcome, whether you agree with it or not.
Alternatively, what your story also shows us is that your friend was the abuser in the relationship – which goes to show how dangerously manipulative they can be.
I see comments here and elsewhere about giving Johnny Depp the benefit if doubt or waiting until both sides had their say. But I hope you were this considerate about hearing both sides when the news of divorce first came out and did not jump on Amber’s throat for her time of filing.
+1000
There is no excuse for a grown man to physical and verbal abuse a Women. Women should always follow their intuition. I read that Amber was hesitant to get engaged and marry him. I have been reading about JD being a bad drunk and drug abuser for about 20 years now. She must have seen him high and drunk before they get married and thought he would change. They will never change unless they go into long term treatment.
Anyone here remember when JD was co owner of the Viper Room where there was drugs being sold out of this bar and River Phoenix died at the bar from a drug overdose? i sympathize with Amber. money cannot buy happiness.
TMZ has more details from ambers camp about the abuse and how she had previously only seen JD one month before on her bday, how he showed up drunk and high threw a champagne bottle at the wall and threw a wine glass at her. Then she didn’t see him for a month and when she did he was again drunk and stoned and got worked up and hit her across the face with the phone or threw it at her in a rage. It does sound like he has a habit of trashing/breaking/throwing things while mad drunk and high. Sounds incredibly troubling and sad and rings true with everything we have heard about his behaviour with past exes.
I don’t like her but there is a new picture on aol.com she has black eye..i do feel sorry for having to put with his bs! I hope she take his sorry butt to the cleaners! shame on him! he cant keep his hands to his self! we don’t know him behind closed doors…. to all you saying “no proof”
for some reason this doesn’t surprise me at all! we all know his idiot a%^ likes to drink and plus what ever he is on. he makes me want to puke!
Re the Instagram photo with Amanda de C: take a quick look at the existing photos of de Cadenet’s party on Sunday (see the Daily Mail, etc) – she is wearing a totally different top and her hair is completely different than in this photo with Amber, above. Most people don’t change clothes and hairstyle in the middle of a busy party at their house, do they?
I’m guessing that the Instagram photo in this post of Amber with Amanda de C (that Depp’s people have so conveniently pointed out as evidence that Amber is lying) is from earlier last week, NOT from Sunday. Please see Amanda de C’s current Instagram where she is in a photo dated “1 week ago” where she is in same top and same hair as above. That would put this photo with Amber from before last Friday. Her bday was 5/19 and she could have had more than one party.
Given that someone went out of their way to deliberately mis-date the Tiffany shopping pics of Amber (they were taken last month, not the other day) I think we need to wait to see about this Instagram photo. Something is fishy here. Or someone (and their team) are desperate.
Oooh, excellent sleuthing work! If someone is tampering with these photos, this is going to get even uglier.
You are good!
So glad you found this. Also Johnny Depp is extremely close with Jann Wenner, owner of Rollingstone, THR, and guess what other magazine? Of course US magazine. US magazine is JD’s go to when he wants a story out. So I’m sure a favor was called by Depp’s team and Wenner helped out his buddy with that deceiving photo of Amber. The sad thing is Depp is the one with the power & money and in Hollyweird that’s what seems to rules and sometimes it even reaches to the likes of the LAPD, which is said to say.
you’re likely spot on @roses only want to point out is was US online that debunked the Tiffany shopping photos . They exclusively ran the story today that those photos were taken late last month and not this past week as TMZ and other (pro-Depp) outlets originally stated.
I wish Amanda de C would come out and say when the Instagram photo was taken. The caption says “birthday BBQ” so everyone assumes the Sunday event. Maybe it was, but who changes clothing and hairstyle at their own party.
Also, one would think that many of the other partygoers inc many celebs (Goop, Demi Moore, Rosie H-W) saw Amber’s bruised face and can vouch for this. Nothing like celeb witnesses in a celeb case.
People sure jumped on a side quickly. How about we wait and see what happens in court, long term.
Sorry to single you out specifically, but I hate comments like this. I’m supposed to wait a year or more for a judge and/or jury to tell me what I should think about a current issue? When the only real-life implication of what I think about what went down between these Hollywood stars is how it might guide my own values and decision-making? No thanks. I’ll stay open to future evidence, but in the meantime, I have every prerogative to pick sides right now.
I think that’s kind of an expected attitude when you admire someone famous. It’s difficult to imagine it being true that you need to keep some distance until it’s so obvious there’s really no doubt. I prefer these comments than the ones dismissing her because people assume she is a gold digger, like that would justify this kind of behaviour.
These types of comments annoy me because the intent is to silence the anger people, especially women, feel towards domestic violence. Frankly, we’re tired of watching women abused over and over again. We’re tired of the character assassination that makes it nearly impossible for victims to come forward. We’re tired of being silenced. I look forward to the legal system performing its duty, but it doesn’t inhibit our moral duty of speaking out against this never ending cycle of violence and supporting the victims. Unless there’s compelling evidence to believe otherwise I support Amber.
This thread is amazing. Thank you
I haven’t seen this come up yet but I’ll post it here in case anyone is wondering. The reason the temporary restraining order (TRO) is only for 30 days (to start) is because TRO applications have a low burden of proof. Therefore, they give the person the order is against (JD, in this case) a chance to contest the order. As in, there will be hearing within 30 days where he can protest the order, present his side, she will be able to present hers, evidence can be presented, etc. The judge then will decide if this order is bogus, warranted, does or doesn’t meet the criteria, etc. The judge will decide if the order is dropped, or remains and becomes a permanent restraining order, which will have a length of a year. An order can be renewed but the petitioner has to show that there is still reason to fear for their safety, etc.
I think it is important not to assume anything. He very well could have been abusive, but from previous articles I’ve read on here Amber was always the one people mentioned being verbally abusive to HIM. It also seems interesting her filing right after his mother died. Who knows…maybe on her death bed his mother said “you have got to get rid of Amber…she is destroying you” -Something dramatic like that…and Amber found out and staged the whole thing to get $$$ and gain sympathy from the public. The fact is we don’t know! I’m sure this drama will be far more fascinating to watch than most of their movies 😬
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Your brain must be tired from all the mental gymnastics it just did.
if he hit her he’s an ass and he needs to admit he’s got a drinking/anger problem and he needs to be punished.
But when I look at the pic of her leaving the court, I think of the smug smirk and her “trying to hide” her engagement ring when the news first broke of the proposal, you know? she was so happy to be the center of attention. Remember the pic of her on the set of Black Mass? When she was literally SWOONING as he walked away, hands clasped to her heart? Utterly unbelievable to the unbiased viewer.
I don’t know either of these people personally. I don’t know if he’s an abuser, or if she’s a gold digger, or if they’re both drug addicts. I’m not going to assume anything.
But here’s one thing I know for a fact:
Amber Heard is a terrible actress. If she’s lying about this, it’ll be pretty obvious.
There is no smug smirk. You are projecting perhaps
I’m going to say this.. Chris Brown is still living with the fall out of what he did to Rihanna. If you look on any thread about Chris Brown the comments are quite different. There was photo evidence there too. And people here and on other sites hate him with a passion.
I’m curious to see how the public and gossip sites treat Johnny Depp. Because I know Chris Brown is always referenced in any Domestic Violence discussion. And that was some time ago.
I’m not trying to minimize Amber’s experience, but Chris Brown beat Rihanna’s face to a pulp with his fists. I always wondered if Rihanna had reconstructive surgery. I’m surprised she’s still pretty and surprised that she is still alive! He should still be living with the fallout for a long time to come.
Absolutely horrible.
This all really bums me out.
Oh man, I knew this was going to be nasty, but I didn’t think it would get this ugly so quickly.
Wonder if he’ll “go to rehab.”
It makes me sad to read so many comments doubting her story. It was obvious Depp was a mess for quite a while, and I don’t think it started with Amber. Vanessa laughing somewhere? Very doubtful, she was with him for many years, and has to kids with him. How can she laugh about this? “Embellished” bruises- Jesus! Amber took pics- how else would she be able to prove anything? Is she a gold digger? I don’t know, but why would I assume she just ‘acts’ the abused? There’s a picture of her crying in a car…we don’t know what happened during their marriage, so I just hope the truth will come out, and they both get the help they need.
Having personally been through such an ordeal, I cannot even imagine having to go through it publicly. Leaving the courtroom after obtaining a temporary restraining order against an abusive partner was the single most difficult moment of my life. Sadly, domestic abuse is all too common.
I’m so sorry that you had to go through that. I hope things are much better for you now.
I am not saying Depp is guilty & his wife isnt or vice versa but in cases like this, i like to use my logical thinking to analyze things. I’m in no way shape or form a johnny depp fan but i just find this lady’s story a bit odd. She filed for divorce on MONDAY & requests for spousal support & everyone calls her a Gold digger then on FRIDAY she files for restraining order. Why didnt she get a restraining order on monday when she filed for divorce or on a tuesday? Why wait until friday?? Clearly deep isnt of any immediate danger to her cuz he has been out of the country this week so the timing is completlely confusing to me. Is she getting the order now because people were calling her a gold digger so she is trying to change the narrative? And while filing for testraing order she also ask for spousal support, i mean i know everyone is different but if i feel i’m in danger, the LAST thing i would want from my abuser is his money. All i would want is for him to stay completely away from me. I would watch & see how this plays out, i’m happy its in the courts hands now so they can decide who is telling the truth cuz right now its looking like a he said she said case.
Its not Amber Heard’s fault you do not know how the legal system works or that you cannot google your basic transgressions away
@danish I agree with you. Again – an abuser is a piece of sh**, nobody deserves to be abused in any way, for any reason. But there’s just something about her that’s so repellent. I dislike Depp for his behavior, and haven’t been a fan for quite some time… But this feels off.
Idk- we’ll find out soon enough.
These are the most civilized comments I’ve ever read on a gossip blog. Kudos to all of you.
As for this situation, I believe Amber. She has way too much to lose if she’s lying about this. Her career would be over. As for Johnny, he has always creeped me out. I’ve never seen in him what it is everyone goes gaga about. He comes off like a babbling alcoholic and/or drug addict to me. Not stable at all.
I’d love to hear what Vanessa Paradis has to say about this. Typically, there are cyclical patterns of abuse. He is the father of her children so I feel like her coming to his defence or staying completely silent will speak volumes.
does it make sense for someone in amber’s position to “lie” about johnny depp esp since he has the money and contacts to destroy her career ? and a top legal team to tear her apart. ? on the off chance she gets some money? it doesnt make any sense – esp since she probably didnt want to come out in public with all this maybe because she knew that she wd be blamed anyway as what has happened. Now the argument is that he was “justified” because she was having an affair with cara etc – so they are blaming her sexuality for what happened between johnny and amber ? this is trial by social media sad to say
Wow, this got real ugly, real fast. That sobers up any attempt to enjoy this mess from the sidelines.
After seeing photos of Amber outside the courthouse, I completely believe her version of events and will never watch a Depp movie again. We have choices as consumers and I’m choosing to take a stand against domestic violence.
And for all anyone questioning Amber’s version of events e.g. why she acted normally after being abused…I’m sickened by your excuses for abusers. There’s no “right” way to respond to trauma.
Well, I have to say, at first I thought it was a very cold, harsh move for her to file when she did. It makes much more sense now. I still think she went into the marriage very much for the money, be it his or her own career boost.
None of that matters. She does not deserve any harm, period. I think her photo speaks for itself, and I’m not so far gone on conspiracy theories that I think it’s a fake damn bruise. Also, I have a basic understanding that bruising and healing is different for everyone.
And last, I will say that I always kind of thought it was Depp who wanted the dogs in Australia, and it was his plane who brought them in, but Amber took the entire fall for it? I thought that was kind of lousy of him, it always seemed to me like he threw her under the bus on that one. I lost some respect for him after that.
sometimes when one has no choice and are desperate the timing is the last time on anyone’s mind. what difference does it really make – as what she said she just needed to get away asap
Sorry, but I have a hard time believing that Johnny Depp is an abusive spouse. I am totally against men physically abusing women. Unless you’re defending your life there is never any reason for it. I just don’t think Johnny did it. Of course, this is merely my opinion; I don’t have any evidence to back it up. I could be wrong.