The more I think about it, the more I respect Kim Kardashian’s decision to stand up for her husband Kanye West. I’ve always believed that beyond the drama, the craziness and the fame, Kim and Kanye are two people who really and truly love each other. Kim choosing to Snapchat the receipts of Kanye’s conversation with Taylor Swift proves that love: Kim was and is prepared to take the hit, if she does get hit from Team Swift. Kim stood up for her husband in a really public way, regardless of personal and professional consequence. Kim was willing to put it out there and really go hard-negative when none of Taylor’s other Mean-Girl-victims could or would. I should also say this: considering the implicit racism Team Swift has been employing, I think it’s interesting that it took Kim standing up for her husband to get a lot of people to side with Kanye. Anyway, Us Weekly did a series of stories about Kim’s decision to post the conversation and there are some interesting details in their reporting. Some highlights:
Kim made the choice to post the video on Snapchat rather than on E!: A Kardashian source says, “They didn’t air it on the show because it would have required Taylor to sign a release for the usage and they didn’t want it to affect the entire network. Taylor will sue Kanye personally.”
Kim & Kanye are sick of Taylor’s Innocent Blonde Child act. “Kim and Kanye consulted with their lawyers and still went ahead with releasing it. They are not worried. They are sick of Taylor’s manipulations and her good girl act. They just wanted to expose her as a fake and will let the lawyers deal with legal stuff…. They are fully prepared for Taylor to sue. They weighed their options and decided they didn’t care.”
Kim ultimately decided to post the video. Multiple sources confirm to Us Weekly that Kim and Kanye talked about it a lot and weighed all of their options, and that Kanye was the one making the argument to NOT post the video. Kim thought about it for months, then decided she had to do something: “Kim was just waiting and didn’t want to post the video initially. She’s not a conflict person. But Kim feels like it gets to a point where you actually have to start saying something.”
Kanye tried to speak to Taylor before her hissy fit at the Grammys. “When Taylor initially freaked when the song debuted at the Yeezy show, Kanye tried calling Taylor again and reaching out to her. She was unresponsive to his outreach.” That, sources say, is what really “pushed Kim and Kanye over the edge” — and ultimately sealed Swift’s fate. “They wouldn’t have released that tape had she not dedicated her Grammys speech to bashing Kanye for something she was aware of. Kim and Kanye hope that one day they can make up with Taylor. They aren’t interested in having this beef.”
Kim stands up for Yeezy. “Kim is glad that the truth is out there. Kim was sick of it for them, for their kids, for everyone who believes in them, and she was not going to let people take Kanye down.”
“They are not worried. They are sick of Taylor’s manipulations and her good girl act…” It’s like they don’t realize that she’s just an Innocent Blonde Child! Much bullying, so character assassination. No, honestly, I respect their work. And I find it almost sadly sweet that Kanye was making the argument to not make the video public. Like, he’s tangled with Taylor’s Innocent Blonde Child PR machinations for YEARS. He knows how bad it can get. And he didn’t want a repeat of it, and he didn’t want Kim to get involved. But Kim did get involved and bless her.
Here are some photos of Kim doing a victory lap on Tuesday. She looks so thin!
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet.
Please no, I’m really enjoying this.
Christmas in July.
Gossip Santa has been generous
I do understand the reasons for interest, but I’m So sick of all this and all of them, personally. She’s 35, hes nearly 40, even Taylor is mid-20s now, and this all started when he interrupted Taylor a million years ago. This would be soooo long forgotten- it didn’t need to be kept up for years and years on both sides! Seriously, ridiculous. Immature to the level of insanity. But of course they do this because it’s how they all stay relevant. But seriously, how can any other actual celeb they rub elbows with even associate with them now? I feel like its damaging to the legitimacy of all involved.
And it’s been done since the beginning of the world. The problem now it’s over exposure, but since the entertainment era started, artists have been feuding and it will go on. People disagree, feud, fight and argue because we clash. The entertainment world is pretty tame compared to what happens in real life, outside of fame. I don’t understand why some people in here are so surprised!
Agreed! They are all acting ridiculous. All bottom-feeders, and the question is who is the worst? No one is a winner or a role model here.
Yes, they are all acting ridiculous, but I have to admire Kim’s hustle. She handled this perfectly by dropping the video during Swifty’s Tiddles victory lap. Well played, Kim, well played.
Thanks Santa Kim ☺️
Well of course she looks thin, that corset thing has probably pushed her spleen up into her esophagus. 😛
In all seriousness though, I have to respect Kim for her actions here. She’s not (really) gone overboard with gloating or “I told you so’s”; she’s basically let the recording speak for itself. Good for her for standing up for her husband.
I’m no Taylor Swift hater but man, she really screwed herself over this time around.
She’s letting ‘part’ of the recording speak for itself. Why isn’t she releasing the whole thing? Good for her, sticking up for her husband, but she is still one the most dishonest people (with maybe the exception of Khloe) on TV today.
Also, Kim has never been known to start feuds with ithers, she has always been on the receiving end of negative comments/reactions and so placed on the defensive or responded. I may be wrong but I dont recall her ever “going after” someone like this or starting a feud.
That’s because she has Jonathan and khloe do it for her. Just like Taylor , Kim has created an image for herself.
Yep. Any if KUWTK didn’t need a big ratings lift? We would have heard only crickets!
I have newfound respect for Kim. Never thought I’d say that.
You’re on record now, Jammy. The internet never forgets. 😉
I’m no fan, but I have mad respect for the way KK played her hand and brought the receipts confirming what others have been saying for years. Not too many A-listers would do something so ballsy and I can’t help but be impressed.
Isn’t it interesting how Taylor’s lawyers will sue her fans for using her likeness in etsy merchandise, but they keep absolutely shtum when neo-Nazi groups use her as an idol on posters, tshirts etc?
Not even once has she made a statement condemning that little segment of her fandom.
Yep. She will not dissociate herself from that directors racist dogwhistles yesterday either. She knows her base and she panders to it as best she can without overtly coming out to cheer them on. She is basically the Trump of teeniepop music
Nor will she tell her friends that BLM isn’t there as a prop for them to use to defend her now that things aren’t going so great for widdle Taylor Swift.
100000+++
I was so sickened by that. His words were beyond grotesque but explained an element of racism that is being played out subconsiously/unconsiously for some people
Likening the actual murder of a woman to a disagreement, my God
so gross
omg… I just said Kanye was the Trump of music industry on different thread… wow…. I better go somewhere and do something real today. this has gone too far! lol.
Actually I read an article like 3 months ago about how they have tried to distance themselves from it but it made the weirdos worse. I can’t remember where I read it.
Yeah, being associated with neo-Nazi groups is much worse for her brand than her guitar teacher using the
“ITaughtTaylorSwift.com” domain name.
So Kim was cleaning her bathroom but needed to go out for more toilet paper and knew paps were outside so she threw on Masons boxing belt and some stilettos? Logical
The pinched to within an inch of your life belt does not look comfortable. But if someone says she looks “thin”, then to her it’s probably worth the pain.
Could the reason why Kim decided to splash the receipts around and Kanye said yes (assuming he was the one holding back) because there was such a non-reaction to the music video?
The reason was her reality show and ratings. and yes I think Kim was beyond pissed that no one cared about Famous. I am sure that Kanye was pissed also. What’s sad Kanye has talent and used to get a lot of acclaim as a rapper. But marrying a reality star and feuding with the likes of Swift, and complaining about the fashion industry has pretty much made him a laughing stock. No one is interested in him rapping about petty BS.
Kim splashed the receipts because the timing was perfect!
“Kim thought about it for months, then decided she had to do something: Kim was just waiting and didn’t want to post the video initially.”
>>Then the tide started to turn against Taylor, thanks to Calvin Harris and co., plus an upcoming episode would feature the Taylor-Kanye feud, and Kim is not one to waste a perfectly timed opportunity. She really is brilliant when it comes to the media. I doubt she would have leaked the footage if Taylor were still on top of the world. But once Kim smelled blood in the water and saw chinks in Taylor’s armor, she went for it.
I actually think the reason is because Taylor wouldn’t shut up about it. Kim and Kanye have worked hard in their craziness to legitimize themselves and in this case it seemed like even with the lyric that he was trying to do things the right way.
Knowing Taylor KNEW she was on that phone call and agreed to it I can only imagine their faces when she released the first statement, when she got on the Grammy’s stage and gloated about how she’d never let someone slse take credit for her work, when she was letting her friends release feminist think pieces judging Kanye for a lyric she was apparently quite happy about. That’s a lot of betrayal on a purely business level and maybe if Taylor had let it go quickly they’d have swallowed it, moved on, and just let it be a lesson to never deal with her again. But this and Hiddles were going to be her story for the rest of the year at least till she got her new album out.
I think at that point Kim and Kanye were tired of being called everything but children of God because of the lyric and just decided “Screw it, we might lose in court but she’ll lose in the media and PR.”
Well, yeah. They’re the only ones allowed to lie, manipulate, exploit and attempt to destroy people. That’s their forte. They gotta protect their brand.
ESE, yes. I don’t know if Kimye would have ‘let it go,’ but once Tay released that first statement, took to that Grammy stage and gave that speech and then let her squad attempt to paint Kanye as a monster – she was toast, and rightfully so. I think she totally thought they wouldn’t release the tapes, or that her lawyers could frighten them into destroying them. And so she lied about the situation for her own benefit. Good for Kayne and Kim (never thought I’d write that) for not letting her get away with it.
claire, no. Don’t try to turn this back on Kimye. They defended themselves and took revenge (rightful revenge) against the near slanderous accusations TS made against them. This story is about HER lies, her manipulation, her attempts to destroy people.
I think it’s timing. There were cracks in Taylor’s armor with the Calvin Harris stuff, plus the episode of KUWTK coming out.
Must be nice not to have any real problems to deal with in your life. With everything that is going on in the world, these idiots are engaging in a junior high power struggle except the stakes are who will be allowed to sit in the cool seats at the VMAs.
To be fair, PR is a huge part of their work. This is important to them. And so much fun to us.
@Locke Lamora
I co-sign 🙂
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I’m sorry, but you’ve stopped at the wrong spot if you’re expecting something more substantial than juicy gossip. And if you’re expecting high brow behavior from either TayTay or Kimye, you’ve really stopped at the wrong place.
The NYT site is to your left, and Le Monde is to the right.
Her outfit is weird but God, her body is looking so goooood.
She is looking more gorgeous then ever in the new keeping up and I would like someone to explain, again what she’s had done most recently. I have no insight to what she does but it lovely.
ITA with u Kaiser, regardless of Kim’s timing she’s defending her husband and yes I also think they do love each other. Kanye is many things but he showed the child HUGE respect with that phone call and she threw it back in his face bit time. If I were Kim I would have been mega pissed too.
Also I wonder how long the child and her team will get away with the racist tone before its used in the backlash. So far no one has called her out on it, someone NEEDS to esp with the current climate in the US right now. It’s stoking the fire and given what’s happened with Lesli Jones on Twitter I’m appalled she’s getting away with it, again.
He showed her huge respect ? By leaving out of his conversation with her the most flamatory words ? “I made that b* famous” is QUITE different than “I might have sex with Taylor swift” and is not even in the same world of intimations. I am a grown a* woman and that would have pissed me off as well. ESPECIALLY coming on the heels of what Kanye imagined was a healing conversation.
Props to Kim. Great move. I’m also toroughly enjoying the fact That all these years of insults and whatnot made her unbreakable in the end. Can’t tell her nothing now.
KandK need to let it go.
I totally agree. There is a really weird obsession that they have with Taylor that is getting kind of sick. Props to them for sure for calling Taylor out on her BS. They played her like a couple of champs. Slow clap, slow clap. But move on. If she starts lashing out, let her. It will die down soon enough. But they can’t, and it is so bizarre.
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Please pay closer attention. Ms. Swift is the one who hasn’t let it go. Publicly and repeatedly.
honeybee, please pay attention to what I wrote, which is, if Taylor starts lashing out, which she has (I am like Tom Who because all of the focus is now on this mess), then Kim and Kanye should let her lash out and say what she wants. She has nothing to stand on so will die down. They don’t want it to die down though because there is some weird f’in obsession that they have with her.
i’m tired of people saying that they are obsessed with taylor swift… like they are publicly exposing her because she tried to play the victim and lied. explain how this is obsession? just because some people are talking about you, doesn’t mean they’re obsessed. own up to the mistake, and stop deflecting
you guys are weird and i definitely feel a racial element when you guys say they are obsessed with whitey old taylor swift
“i’m tired of people saying that they are obsessed with taylor swift… like they are publicly exposing her because she tried to play the victim and lied. explain how this is obsession? ”
I personally think Kanye obsessed with Taylor because he put her naked in his video and then was asking people to sue him. I think he was asking Swift to sue him. He clearly did everything to drag her into his drama.
And he went off on her during one of his concerts back in April. An uncalled for rant about Taylor Swift during one of his shows, seemingly out of nowhere. Obsessed.
Taylor Swift fans are always so delightful in their projected narcissism. I suppose Katy Perry is also obsessed with TS. And Calvin, of course, And Demi Lovato. And, oh, anyone who doesn’t buy her manufactured, sweet as sugar image.
Kayne got up on that VMA stage. That was first contact; that’s on him. Then they made their peace. The next significant interaction was Kanye calling her to ask permission to use her in the song. She agreed. Then SHE went off on her Big, Bad Kanye tour: the statement, the Grammy speech, getting her squad to call him out for attacking her. His response to that was the video (which featured people other than TS) and then the release of the tapes vindicating what Kimye had said.
She has been just as much a part of their interactions. She now wants to be excluded from the ‘narrative’ only because they’ve exposed her for the fraud she is.
I can’t believe all these people are praising KK like she is some hero.
There is a reason she does every single thing and this is NO different and no, I don’t believe for a second she did this for “love”.
I totally agree,all she saw was an opportunity to get extra attention.
I disagree. I believe she did it to defend her husband against a false accusation. Kanye brings it to himself, and if you look at his history, this is the only time she can truly speak up. She couldn’t when he went against Amber cause he was in the wrong or all those other times. Her silence was a way of agreeing with the public in a way.
I disagree with this 100%
I think KK generally has to sigh over some of Kanye’s rants
In this case someone was ‘wronging’ her husband in a situation and whilst this might not have cost him money I would bet that it hurt and upset him
So she thought about it, saw if it would settle, saw if she could make her peace with it – couldn’t and acted
I think her actions are 100% normal. Her waiting shows that she isn’t explosive or keen for conflict but nor is she a push over
I think that it helped Kanye is obviously beneficial but she didn’t do solely for loyalty and love. She timed it so it would garner her ratings, publicity and attention. In fact the timing of the release benefits her much more then it does Kanye.
I don’t think of KK as a hero. But I am amazed and amused she managed to beat Taylor Swift at her own game. I’ve always thought of Taylor Swift as a brilliant businesswoman (with no singing talent) who probably could have gone to Harvard so Kim Kardashian of all people — known for nude selfies, a sex tape, and 72 hour marriages — outsmarting her is fascinating to me. It seems the fascination with Taylor Swift helping to screw herself over is being erroneously confused with KK emerging as some kind of hero.
Kim Kardashian is a PR hero. I don’t believe she did it for love, but I don’t care anyway. I’m Just pleased she cleared Kanye’s name. I knew he wasn’t losing it dammit!
Right, the song came out February, Grammies happened in February, we dragged kanye then she said nothing. The video came out last month, we dragged kanye again, no word. We forgot about the whole thing. Then KIM goes does that magazine cover, talks about it on their show; then releases the video. This is not about kanye’s reputation, it’s all about Kim.
Word. KK did this for the show and yes, for her husband but not out of love ffs. She did it for attention, to win, to boost ratings and so on. My god, as soon as someone else around these two acts like an even bigger twit, suddenly she’s some righteous Jeanne D’Arc? Please. PLEASE.
Hadley B I agree completely. People have lost their damn minds. And what’s funny is it’s the same people who couldn’t stand Kim and Kanye before all of this went down. How quickly everyone wants to forget what Kim and Kanye really are and have done over the years. And NO before I get “yelled” at I’m no fan of Taylor either but I’m not going to prop Miss Appropriation and Mr misogynist up and act like they are victims or heroes either because they called out someone I dislike. People lie, people get caught. This is getting ridiculous. What really gets me is Kim wants to call out people for what they are? Has she bothered to look at what she is? That’s fresh. She has been caught trying to “rewrite history” how many times? she has played the victim how many times? She has manipulated and lied how many times? This whole self righteous act is hilarious. Her and Taylor are one in the same, so I find it pathetic she is standing on some kind of pedestal. And let’s be honest people want to claim Taylor is supposedly a racist now, what about Kim who has profited from appropriating black culture over and over again but when crap hits the fan isn’t there to help the community in anyway? So yeah ok. And why people are going on about Taylor’s speech still makes no sense either because it was the truth, the whole thing was about someone trying to take claim for her work and making her famous which Kanye has repeatedly done. Let’s not forget how this went down. Her lying, while in the same realm is not the same as that speech. It may have brought it on but girl was famous long before Kanye became obsessed with her. All three of these people are a mess. A liar called another liar out. Big deal.
moving my comment up…
I just looked out my window to see if pigs were flying, because for once I actually am Team Kanye/Kim. Taylor Swift is a liar and a mean girl and it took a Kardashian to stand up to her. Yay Kim!
That corset get up is so crazy but she looks soooo tiny! Have to give her props for working so hard on her body!
her ass still looks heavy thou. honest question: how much do does implant weigh?
News flash, Kim: you’re all fame wh0re$.
Yes and she’s damn good at it. She really knocked this one out of the park and I’m pleasantly pleased.
I will give her that. She hit a homerun with the this one.
I guess this difference is that Kim knows what she is. Taylor doesn’t realize everyone else knows what SHE is.
The difference is Kim doesn’t play the victim and demonize others in order to be her famewhore self
Yeah but she does invoke feminism and hide behind it when it suits her needs.
Kim and Swift definitely have that in common.
@ TV
Are you new to the world of Kim Kardashian because Kim plays the victim all the time and has demonized all her ex boyfriends and ex friends .
Kim and Taylor have a lot in common, two sides of the same coin.
She is and she has never denied that. People forget that Kim learned at the feet of that master reality TV media manipulator, Paris Hilton. Paris was also Queen of the mud slinging, remember all the mud that she slung against Mischa Barton and Lindsay Lohan – those were the days. None of it ever stuck to Paris, even thou we all knew it came from her.
Pity its not Paris v’s Taylor – Paris would have sunk the Taytanic by now.
I love that image so much.
She does look really slim! I guess taking down the vanilla unicorn really does the body good.
I think they are legit lol. Plus I know a lot seem to believe he rules the roost, but I was watching the Sunday episode of KUWTK when his SNL rant leaked and from the way she handled it and how he looked to her to take the lead, I think she’s not a push over as much as people think. They seem evenly matched; he gets creative control/power while she deals with all things business etc.
I find it sweet and funny at the same time.
If she’s not a pushover why does she let him dress her in such awful clothes?Naming the kids north and saint appears to be his idea as well.All the Kardashians Including Kim walk on eggshells around West. Your point about her handling business isn’t true. Business is handled by Kris Jenner and not Kim don’t forget that.
maybe it’s too hard for you to believe that she actually wants to dress like that.
$$$. Keep her rich husband happy. She can’t have a 3rd failed marriage, she has to hang on to him for awhile. She promotes his stuff, he makes more money, that’s more money for her to take when she finally files for divorce. Plus, she strikes me as the kind of idiot who will pay ridiculous $$ for clothes somebody tells her are cutting edge or couture. Kim’s very manipulative, he’s the one getting played, not her. She had khloe and Jonathan fight her battles, so her hands stay clean.
@ No
She doesn’t but goes along with it for attention. She never looks comfortable in them and her face is always blank when she wears them. Before she got with Kanye she didn’t dress like this, her clothes fit her and she looked happy to be wearing them. Google old pictures and you will see the big difference.
At the end of the day Kim will do anything for attention even humiliate herself for it.
I can only imagine how it is going to be at any future award shows if any of them show up. I’m already hearing, “Let’s get ready to rumble” in my head along with the coordinating stadium music.
Hmmmm I’m still side eyeing these two and their showmance something fierce because to my trained eye they have zero chemistry whatsoever.
But whatevs…the world is going to hell in a hand basket but let’s keep discussing these losers like our lives depend upon it.
This^^^
It kills me to see how hard kim tries to be sexy, but to me, she is so asexual. I don’t think she has much of a sex drive and is probably pretty boring in bed.
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ahem, i don’t see what kim’s sex life has to do with any of this.. she has always openly flaunted her sexuality AND the question I have!! WHY are you trying to paint her being asexual like it’s a BAD thing which also means you’re boring in bed?? check your sexism
In the latest episode Kim was asked to use three words to describe herself and she said sexy, then she could not think of two more.
This is getting ridiculous on both parts. Time to let it go and move on. At this point I believe they are all in on it for the publicity. Such pettiness drives me nuts. You called her out, she responded, now both of you MOVE ON!
How does this publicity help Taylor? Why would she agree to something that would make long time loyal fans say they’re done with her and celebrities mock her?
The long loyal fans are saying Taylor was set up by K clan and it is further proof of Kanye being duplicitous.
So says the Guardian – each fan camp takes from this what they want.
Swift is taking a beating here but if you look at regular press, most people are just disgusted with Kim and Kanye. Swift “takedown” didn’t make it outside of social media.
Perhaps but many times the regular press plays the wrong hand, they’ve had to backtrack and try a new angle when they realize the usual bs they try to put out is being pushed back in comments sections and online.
Especially with Taylor, when the Taylor/Nicki issue happened the regular press tried to paint Nicki as the villain and the backlash to that made them reshuffle the story and say it was a “mutual disagreement”.
When every celebrity that Taylor has worked with has contributed to the social media wave of liking posts criticizing her or posting their own snake emoji’s mocking her that tells me traditional media isn’t catching the full story or aware of its full impact.
If someone doesn’t want publicity then you comment once and let it go. Seems like neither of them can let it go. Just today alone there are 3 articles on this. The number of articles the past few days is about 6 or 7. The number of comments on each article are large. Time to get over it for all of them. I will say KK and KW get more publicity, whether it is good or bad, out of this feud. The comment numbers on Kardashian articles were usually below 50. But Swift is getting publicity also – whether she want it or not. But she could shut it down if she wanted.
I think we have to distinguish between what the press is writing and what Kim/Kanye and Taylor are actually doing.
Kim said for a long time she had this tape and that she had even gotten a threatening letter from Taylor Swift’s lawyers ordering her to destroy it. It’s pretty clear she set this up for maximum damage to Taylor and Taylor for her part whether through arrogance or ignorance couldn’t admit maybe she did agree to the song and even made suggestions. I think ironically she also released very little to directly smash Swift’s initial statements that she never took the phone call etc. I think it ‘could’ end here but I also think if Taylor voices more defenses that may be untrue we may see more footage leaked.
For Kim PR wise this is fantastic. Social media has been full of people championing her including one memorable post that said something along the lines of: “Katy warned us, Nicki warned us, Calvin warned us, Kim SHOWED us.” This warms her heart I’m sure. For Taylor, save for these poorly worded letters from her/her lawyer/or team she’s been silent. Like someone else said she went from being photographed everyday with Tom to now being totally unseen and even her friend’s coming to her defense has been scant.
I think she’s hunkered down in a hotel somewhere doing damage control trying to figure out the best angle and that she’ll stay semi-quiet till she does. Till then though the press is gonna hash this out every which way because they love a good downfall story and Taylor was built up pretty high through her own machinations.
The almighty GUARDIAN is giving space to this farce?? I would’ve thought merelt acknowledging the existence of anyone involved would be far beneath their airtight standards.
“The almighty GUARDIAN is giving space to this farce?? I would’ve thought merelt acknowledging the existence of anyone involved would be far beneath their airtight standards.”
I read two articles on this in the last 2 days there. They pretty regularly cover Kanye and Beyonce. I guess this falls under “Kanye stuff”.
@eternal
Word. Word. Word.
For the media these three (two?) and their subsequent images, could not be more polarizing. It isn’t just a takedown, it’s heavily layered and full of so much rich history, and because it was Kim K, obvious famewhore known for lying and manipulating, and mostly caring about her whatever she cares about, image?And then Tay Swift, who everyone kind of knew was an image manipulator, maybe tiny fibber, but had been just been relegated to probable mean girl (no real proof) on top of a being known for leading a fairly altruistic life. Polar opposites.
Because of this layered history between all of them, and how hard Taylor publicly hustled this image of purity and gal pals and the innocent constantly being dark clouded by everyone else, to be clapped back at so loudly, it causes so much more impact than all of Taylor Swifts individual fights combined.
Sure, we cared and listened when it was Katy, Calvin, Nicki, but it was far less impactful because the incidents were singular ones that just played out in the media. The Kanye and Taylor drama ebbed and flowed for years without real juicy gossip that had much bite beyond the initial mic incident. Finally, after years of much ado about nothing, this “gossip” delivered a deep well of conversations and think pieces about hypocrisy, image manipulation, public perception, feminism, racism, misogynistic, self awareness and damage control. I mean, it’s so much more than just the three bozos involved. That’s why everyone can’t stop talking about it media wise. It’s amazing.
I agree Taylor will hunker down, evaluate, calculate a plan and then we will see her when she’s ready to execute it. I personally can’t even imagine her game plan.
I’m not a fan of either but if I had to choose I choose Taylor’s music, which I own a few songs of, over the K show ANY TIME OF DAY. Their voices are nails on chalkboard to me, and Taylor Swifts music, well let’s like, say, like, it like incites this like, crazy sense of like, nostalgia and like, pillow fights. #squads4eva #exceptinprdisasters
It’s also of note I think that Taylor did use and benefit and bring them up again publicly in a tweet about the mic, and then another time some public joke.
So I think the real reason Kim is going so hard is because I genuinely truly believe Kim and Kanye thought they were cool with Taylor. They overestimated her and then she waaaaaaay underestimated them.
Epic.
Why worry?! When I think how many eps. of their show will cover the legal battle alone….with their narrative and no creative control from Swift…
I think Taylor lost this round, she needs a break and a distance to “reinvent” herself, because she’s certainly not gone.
Unfortunately, even though I am loving seeing TS being exposed, at the end of the day, they’re all still assh**es.
I don’t for a second believe that Kanye was against releasing the video-he has become more and more delusional and impulsive in the last few years and I don’t think he would have thought twice about releasing it, particularly after her little rant at the Grammys. This is one area where Kim and her really shine and where I will give them credit for being clear headed and sensible-even it is just because they are protecting the brand.
I’m sure there is a degree of them deciding ultimately that they just didn’t give a f**k, but they have spent waaay to much time perfecting the aforementioned brand to risk damaging it trying to get back at TS this way, to not know they were virtually untouchable. I just can’t see them taking that chance.
Oh please. They waited months to release the tape because they wanted ratings. Its not a coincidence that this just happens to come out during the time the KUWK airs. If Kim was soooo interested in defending her husband she would have done it months ago. She wants attention and ratings, period. And Taylor handed it to her on a platter.
This!!!
It surely was for ratings, but this is also the first time Taylor’s image is showing major cracks. If they tried this right after the Grammys when she was Queen of the World it wouldn’t have had the same impact.
Exactly. She doesn’t care about defending kanye, this is just another way to keep her in the news
I completely agree. It’s definitely for the ratings. That’s why K & K, and her whole family ever do anything. I guess that’s just what famew**res do!!! TS is a dope to get mixed up with Los Diablos (K & K,) I would love to hear the rest of the tape to find out more.
Nobody has been talking about the song or the Grammys for months. This is for ratings.
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It’s so obvious. It was timed with the discussion of it on the show. I feel like people here have lost their minds. For real.
is it so hard to believe that she wanted to defend her husband and ALSO time it with her show and work on her ratings? like people, women are multifaceted and can also be smart and clever
I agree with you. She probably did it for more than one reason- the ratings, the fact that people weren’t believing her and Kanye, and because of how Kanye was being thrown under the bus. Either way, I’m kind of loving that she did it.
THE most manipulative woman on Earth is calling out someone else for being too manipulative? The hypocrisy is absolutely disgusting. I guess no one is allowed to out manipulate the Koven.
THIS! Kaiser- this has NOTHING to do with defending her husband and EVERYTHING to do with boosting her failing show’s ratings. She’s taken her clothes off so much no one cares anymore. Also, no one cared about Kanye’s video so they have to stay relevant somehow. Coincidentally, they happen to take down someone who is just as fake as they are. Kim- stfu and sit down, your brand is based on lying, so why are you hating? Taylor- put on your big girl pants and accept the blame. Kanye- please go back to the studio and try to recreate the Kanye from the early aughts.
No, she’s calling her out for being a slanderous liar.
@honeybee and Kim hasn’t done the same? Haha ok.
@Tifygodess24, Kim has lied, a lot for that matter, but that’s a far cry from slander, which Ms. Swift most certainly committed. A far cry. Kim lies about herself; TS lies about others.
@honeybee blues
So what she did to Kris Humphries wasn’t slander? LOL ok there
TS and Kim are both liars and will slander people to get ahead.
You hit the nail right on the head. This has absolutely nothing to do with defending her husband. Who is she kidding??? This is all about her. She is one of the most disgusting manipulative poor excuses of a human being .
I’ve said it a million times now. I personally believe if Kanye’s mother were still alive he would not be acting like the a**hole he’s been acting. Nor, would he be married to the porn queen. He has changed so much since he has passed away
If this was about defending Kanye she would released the video, when he was having a melt down at that performance.
Instead she waited until the episode aired and did it for personal gain.
But whatever.
A lot of people are over it, myself included, I’m tired of the implications of how Taylor is just so ‘harmless’ and how she keeps getting younger and more helpless everytime her fans defend her.
I’m tired of her being able to say and do anything but everyone painted as the devil for the same. I’m super tired of the fake show of shock and amazement she puts on everytime she wins an award and I’m tired of that good girl exterior hiding a lot of problematic bullshit people have tried to comment on for years but were accussed of being a hater and whatever else.
When a decade plus of you f*cking up explodes in your face it is indeed a glorious and amazing sight.
I’m a Katy Perry fan, so I’ve been waiting quietly for this for years. It’s great. I’m loving it.
Yes-she lost me at the Kennedy high school kid “romance” and then her annoying comments when Tina Fey and Amy Pohler teased her. And the whole squad thing is ridiculous.
This x1000. I almost stopped reading here a few weeks ago because of the over indulgence in the Tom and TayTay posts. Sooooooo over her love-life and life in general before this happened.
I am loving that the Taytanitic has been hit by the Iceberg and is finally on it’s way to the bottom.
I am suddenly finding this Taylor Swift story almost too depressing to follow. As in, it was fun for awhile, but I’m not sure if I will have the stomache for watching this spoiled woman continue to make millions and millions (and millions) while being grateful to no one and never acknowledging how lucky she is to be born white, pretty and protected from everything by a team that makes sure all her needs are met at all times. Not only is she not grateful , she is secretly spiteful and vindictive of anyone who she perceives as rejecting or getting something that should be “hers” (Katy Pery, boyfriends, etc). She’s just awful. I always saw her as harmless fun with her ridiculous boyfriends, etc. Now I don’t even like seeing her. I don’t think it’s fun gossip anymore when she is using race to throw Kanye under the bus. Makes me kinda sick actually. An adult should have taught her how to be more than a spoilt princess a long time ago, and now it is too late because she is a spoilt, lying adult not likely to change.
Taylor is the worst sort of narcissist, she really believes the world revolves around HER. Throw in the racial tones of her situation with Kanye and how she’s never called out of her behavior by the press (calling other women whores, her squad, the beefs with Perry, Nicki, etc.)…rich and entitled princess just doesn’t seem to cover it. I think she’s psychopathic.
None of the three people in this entire episode can claim the moral high ground.
The worst think Taylor Swift or any of her squad can do at this time is to continue fueling this story. Taylor should wait it out and lay low for a while.
Kayne will go on another rant or Kim will manufacture some drama for her asinine reality show and this will blow over soon enough.
The words respect and Kim (or Kanye) should never be used in the same sentence. They are both disgusting millionaires who would not give us the time of day if we greeted them on the street. Taylor, on the other hand, I have personally witnessed her kindness to her fans. So, at the end of the day, no matter who called who or who lied about what I still think Taylor is the better person…hands down.
It’s called acting. Or making nice with fans while cameras are around. Public perception is everything for this girl and she’s played the innocent victim for years. While I’m no fan of Kim, another entitled narcissist, in this instance Taylor finally got pay back for all her media shenanigans.
There were no cameras around. My husband and I were sight-seeing in Nashville, TN a couple of years ago and eating at a pizza place. He (who could give two craps less about celebrities) pointed outside and said, “is that girl someone we should know”. TS had noticed two young girls standing outside the pizza place and had whoever was driving her little VW bug pull up to them and she spoke with them for several minutes and signed some of their items and took a few pictures. I have never forgotten this and thought it was so sweet and kind. I know all of these people are probably not the greatest of character….but I think she is a halfway decent person. Do I think she lied, yes, is she the only person in America who has lied in order to avoid being persecuted by the media, uh no. I really think she wants out of the KK drama.
Ok then. As long as she’s publicly kind to the people who pay her bills, her thinly veiled racism and blatant slanderous lies are A OK in your book. Good to know.
I never get any vibe from her that she’s a racist. Is it because she doesn’t like Kanye West and he is African American? If that is your measuring stick them 90% of the country is racist.
@ Mellie
It has absolutely nothing to do with Kanye, if you go back into the other post and read the comments you would see why some may feel that way.
Ok, I’ll do that. I must have missed that discussion. I better do that when I get home tonight though, I spend entirely too much time reading this stuff 🙂
@Mellie
Look at pikawho? Comment above as well as read the “Why isn’t Taylor swift whole #squad defending her” post . The comment above and in the other post are a big reason why people feel that way and give you an idea of what people are saying in the other posts.
People can be more than one thing. I’m not comparing what they did but look at Johnny Depp he is always kind to fans but now we know he is also beat up his wife.
Bahahaha, you think her being nice to you in public has anything to do with her being a manipulative liar in her private life
She wasn’t being nice to me, it was two tweens who were standing outside the restaurant, probably waiting on their parents. There really weren’t a lot of people around. I still think it was a really nice gesture on her part. And I bet that she does a lot of things like that…so what do those K people do for charity? I think it’s been brought up more than once that many of their ‘charitable actions’ are basically shams.
@ mellie
Sounds like a nice thing she did
The reason Kanye was tangled in Taylor,s sweet blonde child schtick, is because In 2009 he inserted himself into it.
I get that everyone loves Kim and Kanye now, but let’s not rewrite history and pretend this whole beef didn’t start with Kanye.
I’m not a Taylor Stan, so please dont kill me.
Agree
Thank you, I expected to flamed.
It’s funny how a week ago Kanye was unhinged and Kim was the worst ,but now their are excuses being made for them, that have nothing to so with the Taylor stuff.
Also trying to imply Taylor is rasict by what the video producer said is a leap of logic. If anything he’s a racist.
She can’t control what someone else said.
Now Kim is some type of martyr.
In no way am I sticking up for Taylor, since I’m not a fan and I don’t care, but the flip flopping is amazing.
I love that she got called out and I hate how she is not owning up to it. Other then that, my opinion doesn’t change about Kim and Kanye.
Taylor was rightfully a victim in 2009, and she tried to victimize herself in 2016, and tell lies.
Both parties suck.
@Guesty2
No one is making excuses you can not like someone and think their right about a particular situation and that’s what happening here. No has forgotten who they are, It seems to me some posters just expected people to side with Taylor on this.
As you said your opinion hasn’t changed and nether has to opinions of the people on this blog .
Thank you Flowerchild. Many of us are capable of holding more than one thought at a time. KK is a vacuous waste of skin most of the time, but not this time. This time she called out a bully, and there isn’t one us of alive, I dare say, who hasn’t been victim of a bully, so this is a schadenfreude most of us can enjoy vicariously.
Agree
I agree.
Also, let’s not forget what Kim is defending her husband for, writing a misogynistic song that degraded Taylor Swift. That Taylor Swift apparently didn’t object to his lyric about them having sex, doesn’t absolve him, it just makes me sad for her. Who would be okay with that?
I also think that people have different reactions to the b-word. It’s apparently not a big deal to Kim and Kanye, but I personally do not stand for it. Maybe because I’m, personally, so offended by the word (and, to be honest, I don’t understand how others aren’t. It’s such a disenfranchising word, it literally de-humanizes women – and I stand by my use of “literally”). Anyway, maybe because I have such an emotional aversion to that word, it’s easier for me to believe that would be the part that was over-the-line for Taylor.
@flowerchild
I’m not referring to the people who don’t like Kim but like that she exposed Taylor.
I’m talking about the people, who would normally trash Kim Kardashian on a normal post, but are now making excuses for the things they once bashed her for because she exposes Taylor.
In no way am I saying, people are one dimensional and can only hate or love a person.
I just dont like this narrative of let’s pretend like Taylor wasn’t someone who was rudely interrupted and embrasses by Kanye. Let’s act like Taylor this whole situation.
The Kanye and Taylor situation happened because of Kanye.
Taylor won’t own up to her lying because she does like to play the victim.
Kanye has not shut up about the situation.
I respect your opinion.
I just see a lot of one-sided stuff right now, and people trying to forget certain things to fit the narrative.
of al people on earth, The person here whos credibility is completey shot is Kim (And her mother). She’s a notorious liar and manipulator. She’s gotten away with the “good girl act” time after time after her tape, after Playboy, after all the Paper mag cover etc. it’s all in the name of “female empowerment”. I’d call it something else. This IMO is a mean girl act by Kim on someone who she resents for doing the same thing.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Kim has “gotten away with the ‘good girl act.'” Since when?!?! Nice try, but everyone, including Kim, knows EXACTLY who she is, so stop deflecting. Every time she tries her “female empowerment” crap, she is summarily slammed here and pretty much every else, as she should be. So, nice try, but no cigar. Next.
Kim had a point to make, fair enough. I think the impact was lost in the mean girl fray. Just as when Taylor speaks up. Who cares. It was very calculated by Kim. She lost her impact when Khloe went after Chloe. The tide then turned against the kardashians as it always does/will.
No, the tide turned against Khloe, as well it should have. We can read, you know, so there is no use in making unsubstantiated claims.
So now everyone loves Kim?
No. I’m revolted.
No. It’s possible to call out Taylor and dislike kardashians. You know human beings can hold two thoughts in their head at the same time.
Thank you! May I buy you a drink?
I guess my two thoughts were that I do not care for either.
@honeybee blues
Except your comments are revisionist versions of Kim’s personality where apparently she is a liar but NEVER slanders anyone. LOL ok there.
You’re allowed to dislike KK but when you veer into “oh she’s not as bad as Taylor” territory, it’s pretty obvious that you’re just being disingenuous to paint Kim as the “better” person in this scenario. They are both awful.
I know the hate for Swift is strong on this site and I don’t really have definite feelings about her, one way or the other as I haven’t followed her career.
But there is no way I will ever see Kim and Kanye as victims. We are talking about someone (Kim), who has built a multimillion dollar empire through her PR and tv show. By the way, the show gives her a constant source to air her propaganda. Make no mistake about it, it is propaganda. She lies constantly so I don’t find her credible in the slightest. Funny thing is, she might be in this story but nope, I can’t buy it as she has cried wolf way too many times for me.
Kayne is a bit different from the standpoint that he has a talent. I just don’t see any innocent parties in this whole scenario.
From what I have seen here the hate for Kanye is stronger. She lies and we heard it on tape. That’s all this is. It’s not because everyone has a personal grudge against Taylor.
Any article that gets written about her has numerous negative comments so I stand by what I said.
I don’t believe for one second that Kim is ‘not a conflict person’, nor do I believe that Kim and Kanye want to ‘make up’ with Taylor.
Kim did this all for attention and publicity. That’s what she lives for.
First off-im not a Taylor fan. Let’s not forget Kim siccing Kenye on the boy in the doctors office. Kenye had to pay him off after he assaulted him. Kim didn’t do this because she lurves her husband. She did it because she haaates Taylor! Where Taylor screwed up was even speaking to Kenye after he made a fool of himself at the VMA’s. His nasty video was the last straw, it was beyond disgustiing; it was a work of hate.
I don’t know why I’m not enjoying this gossip. I mean I’m impartial about Taylor (I like some of her songs and my younger cousins love her but I don’t really care about her and loathe her mean girls antics), and I love this kind of gossip, but all of this makes me feel a bit uncomfortable.
Maybe is because I consider the ones exposing Taylor even worse than her. Calvin is a petty dbag, Kim and her family are the embodiment of the worst of society and Kanye is an overvalued misogynist who started all of this in the first place. I guess I just don’t like how everyone is acting like if these people are awesome and writting comments like “queen Kim”, when these are the same people we have been criticizing for years, because they are a bunch of *sses.
The only person I was glad that she finally had her revenge was Camilla Belle.
They are not worse than her. They are exactly the same and she got outsmarted at her own game. This irritating idea that she’s better then them needs to stop. It seems Classist and /or racist.
She gets into as many scraps as Calvin, she has more enemies than him in Hollywood, even playing field. She got papped EVERY single day for a YEAR leading up to the release of RED. Right now she’s supposed to be taking time off, why is she busy promoting her romance with hiddles? Because she lives and breathes for attention Even playing field as an AW with Kim. She slutshamed Belle. Ok so maybe you think oh but she’s so talented not like Kim. Does that make her actions better?
Look Kanye is immensely talented , Calvin Harris is just as talented as Taylor. The way they conduct themselves are shit.
No, no. Maybe I didn’t explained myself well. I don’t consider Taylor better than anyone, my point is that I can’t really go “yasss Calvin!” or “Queen Kim!” (like some people here have) when I consider them the same. Like you said, she was outsmarted in her own game, that’s it. I still think the same of ALL of those involved.
What if this whole thing were contrived for publicity?
Who is the real winner here? #Famous
I can understand how people are already sick of this battle, but I think it’s very important. It touches upon feminism and racism, and the millions of dollars raked in by a pop star who has built an empire based on victimhood (which is decidedly NOT feminist). Why should they let go? If it’s Taylor’s aim to them look like baddies who deceived her and she was a willing participant all along, she should own up to it. She obviously loves the headlines just as much as Kimye (her bought & paid for boyfriend is proof of that).
Yeah because Kim is so “genuine” right? Kim is so “real” right? Kim won’t even admit to the butt injections or nose job ! If Kim is really losing weight by working out and dieting why are her boobs and butt still the same size? All of a sudden her legs are half the size they were. Who is buying this?
So, Kim wanted to expose someone as being “fake.” Oh Dear Lord, the irony, especially as she lugs around her 20 lb. ass.
Oh God, I have something very embarrassing to confess:
Out of curiosity, I watched some episodes of Keeping Up With the Kardashians. This is a show I have taken great pleasure in looking down upon. I hate the whole concept.
And I enjoyed those episodes immensely. I am playing it in the background now while I proofread. It’s perfect. It’s soothing. Funny, silly, dumb, and some of these people are kind of sweet even when they are insanely shallow and fake.
F*ck you Tom Hiddleston, i wouldn’t even bother with these threads if I didn’t enjoy ridiculing you so much. Now I am watching this bloody show. And enjoying myself.
I will lose all cred with my poet peeps if anyone finds out. Now I need an app that will close this damned show and open the Emily Dickinson page at the Poetry Project if anyone comes into the room……
EDIT: Holy crap how do any of these people have careers?
Kim K is sick of Tay’s “manipulations” and “good girl act” lmfao girl you’re on a reality tv show!!! If that didn’t prepare you, I don’t even know.