Kate Gosselin and/or TLC must have worked out some kind of incredible multi-year deal with People Magazine. That’s the only explanation I can come up with for the fact that she and her kids are covering People Magazine many years past their sell-by date. (People must owe TLC in general, because they’ve also been pushing the younger Duggars in our faces despite all the well-deserved backlash the family has been getting.) It’s been a little over ten years since The Gosselins first appeared on television as part of the show Jon and Kate Plus Eight. Jon and Kate of course divorced, with Jon going through a series of girlfriends, one more dramatic than the next, and Kate desperately trying to cling to fame through various means, including a much-derided turn on Dancing With The Stars. Now Jon just quit his job at TJI Fridays, Kate is doing whatever she does to keep the money coming in (including this interview I would guess) and some of the kids are estranged from their dad. (More on that in a moment.)
In this interview Kate admits that of the now 12-year-old sextuplets, Collin, is away getting inpatient treatment for “special needs.” We heard back in 2010 that Colin and his sister, Alexis, were expelled from their private school for violence and bullying, which Kate denied to the press. She now admits that Collin is having issues, about which she remains vague, which is understandable. As for the story that Kate is keeping her 15 year-old twin daughters, Cara and Mady, away from their father they say that’s not the case and that they don’t want a relationship with him because he’s “toxic.” Gee, I wonder where they learned that. Kate also claims that if she could do it over again she would be less controlling, which is antithetical to who she is. That would never happen.
Collin, 12, is away in a program to help him gain “life skills”
Kate: Colin has special needs. There’s a fairly fluid diagnosis of what those needs are, but he needs to learn certain strategies to help him deal with things. This has been a struggle we’ve had for a very long time, and it’s one I’ve dealt with on my own… The other kids, of course, realize that so much of my… focus has had to be devoted to Collin and trying to get him the help he needs. I feel like I’ve made an investment in Collin’s future.Kate on what she would do differently
If I could go back, I wouldn’t spend so much time worrying about the messes and the obsessive-compulsiveness and needing to be so in control. I would spend more time nibbling little feet and cuddling up. I worried about so many things I just didn’t need to be worrying aboutMady, 15, on her relationship with her dad
Here’s how I feel about this. This year I’m going to turn 16. I’m going to be learning to drive, taking the PSATs, thinking about college… so much is going on in my life. And the last thing I have time for is a toxic relationship.He makes it seem like we’re being kept from him, which is insane. He should maybe spend some time thinking about why we don’t want to see him, and maybe realize that if he ever does want a relationship with us, talking about us on TV is not the way to make that happen. He doesn’t even know us – how can he dare talk about us?
[From People Magazine, print edition]
Do you remember when Kate and her twin daughters were doing interviews a couple of years ago and Mady was rolling her eyes at Kate and actively defying her? Mady stands up to Kate which means she definitely takes after her mom. There’s surely a lot of parental alienation going on. Also, remember how Jon Gosselin was giving interviews saying that Mady and Cara hadn’t visited him since they were 13 and that he hadn’t seen one of his sons in 18 months? That was in January, so it’s probably been two years since he’s seen that son, whom he didn’t specify but we can assume is Collin. We all know Kate plays fast and loose with the truth, so how long has Collin really been away and has she told John where he is? Did she even consult John about Collin’s treatment?
See you there tomorrow! Can't wait to meet you all at the @TLC Block Party! #Chicago #CantWait pic.twitter.com/AEj8YDKwFB
— Kate Gosselin (@Kateplusmy8) July 15, 2016
Kate also got new puppies, which is awesome except she made the kids give their German Shepherds back to the breeder, remember that?
Nanuq is watching tv with us while attacking her rope giraffe.. #ShesABedDoggy #ILoveThatSheLovesFurniture pic.twitter.com/QAD3p6xHag
— Kate Gosselin (@Kateplusmy8) July 2, 2016
@talkitytash …and this cute doggy, Mak too! #2Puppies #THREEKingShepherdsTotal pic.twitter.com/kvNO9DrZ37
— Kate Gosselin (@Kateplusmy8) June 23, 2016
I feel badly for the kids. Those parents are a mess.
I will never forget the clips of the show, and seeing her belittle, mock and verbally abuse her own children. Jon has problems, of course, but she seems to be a truly cruel and awful person. Yes, reality TV does creative editing, but like a mosaic, they edit together the materials they have. They did not “create” the false impression that Kate was horrible to her kids, she WAS horrible to her kids.
Truer words never spoken. Kate is the toxic element and always has been. She basically had those kids as a way to become famous, knowing the risks (as a nurse, which is a scary enough fact itself)
What is wrong with People and TLC?!!!
You know what is toxic? Outing your seven year old for having special needs. Because that’s going to make his life infinitely easier. What the hell.
Well, he’s 12, not 7, and I always find it funny that so many people judge Kate in this situation and excuse John. Didn’t he publicly cheat on his wife? I feel like that’s pretty traumatic too. I’m not going to judge Kate for sending her preteen to get help because we don’t know anything about his behavior and she has 7 other kids to worry about-I’m guessing she recognized she needed help and that her son needed help. So many parents don’t get their kids the mental help they need and let the kids suffer in private. It’s also rather archaic to think she “sent him away,” where he’s more likely in a behavioral program that’s tailored to children his age that is a lot kinder than One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.
It’s also probably “special needs” is the term she is using to replace a chemical imbalance or mental health problem he is having, which isn’t “outing”, and probably better to diffuse the situation to explain why your son isn’t in a photo shoot before someone else “outs” your kid. And I also don’t think it’s outing to say one’s child is special needs, because it’s nothing to be ashamed of. What is she going to say, my son is at camp?
Well, if you cared about your kids’ privacy, you could opt to not splash their images on the front page of a national magazine. That’s an option.
Jon didn’t cheat on his wife. He was sleeping in an apartment above the garage and they had an agreement that he could see other people as long as he was discreet. A divorce wouldn’t look good for the show. A photographer followed him and it was no longer discreet, so she scampered off to file for divorce. Jon wanted counseling, she refused. Kate was so abusive to Jon on the show that I was amazed they even showed those scenes. When Jon was asked directly if he cheated, he was adamant that he had not and showed no “tells” of lying. This matched what his brother-in-law and sister-in-law said. It’s not cheating when you’re not living together as husband and wife and just not getting divorced for the sake of a tv show.
Jon was the direct caregiver for the children, and the twins were pretty messed up when he had to leave. Mady was especially close to him. Kate did everything she could to keep the kids away from him, such as scheduling away trips for the show during his scheduled visitation and refusing to let him talk to or visit them while she was away. The body language in pictures made it very clear who the toxic parent was and who was not (and it wasn’t Jon). The children were relaxed with Jon, distant with Kate.
It was widely believed that Collin was afraid to visit his dad for fear that Kate wouldn’t take care of the animals in his absence. I think he was the one who hated having his picture taken. When he was younger, his dad would carry him when a photographer was stalking them and let the child bury his head in his dad’s shoulder. Jon started saying it was time to stop the show by the time the younger kids were about five, maybe younger. He said they were old enough to need privacy. He was fought by Kate and TLC, who won.
Jon used money from a reality counseling show to buy a house ten minutes away from the kids to make it easier for them to visit. But Kate refused to let them take toys or extra clothes with them. She was also obviously bribing the twins with “stuff” to keep them attached to her. I hope as they grow older they will realize that their father may have his flaws, but he fought for them as best he could. I also hope they come to realize that all mothers aren’t like Kate, who really is toxic.
How about not selling your kids like they have an expiration date? Or just saying that it’s a private family matter where Collin is? Isn’t this the woman who had a wooden spoon in her car for hitting the kids when she felt they needed it? Right now, she can manipulate them more as contemporaries, which they aren’t, but she will use it that way.
How about not selling your kids like they have an expiration date? Or just saying that it’s a private family matter where Collin is? Isn’t this the woman who had a wooden spoon in her car for hitting the kids when she felt they needed it? Right now, she can manipulate them more as contemporaries, which they aren’t, but she will use it that way.
@jwoolman – thanks for sharing this perspective. Amazing how different things look from another view. I feel bad for the kids.
You mean like Kate having a fling with her “married” security detail? Please she’s not mother Teresa. She’s a horrible woman.
I would never stand being estranged from my children and I certainly wouldn’t blame my x if I was!
I’m at a loss to what special need could be best handle in an inpatient situation without the family there with the child supporting them and learning to cope with him.
I’m not a doctor, but if nothing changes at home won’t he come back and just revert? Kate for me is such a sad bitter woman. It’s a shame those children had to grow up like that.
I would guess that he is violent (especially given that story about expulsion for bullying). If you have other kids in the home, its wiser that he gets his treatment away from them.
General psychological practice is that a child should only be in an “inpatient” situation when they actively pose a threat to themselves or to others. If he’s violent and going after other people, that is certainly cause for that kind of treatment. However, even in those cases, it’s recommended that it be limited to the shortest stay possible and that the family still be actively involved in the treatment. Kate seems to just not really care. And if he’s experiencing issues, most therapists would demand that both parents be a part of the treatment. Isolating him from his father is NOT good, despite how the parents might feel about each other.
You are right, he will revert when he comes back. If you don’t change the situation that beget the issues, the issues remain. Personally, though, think about it – Collin is 12. If she can string it along for another 6 years, once he’s 18, they can legally put him out or refuse to take him back. There are plenty of parents who do the whole “staying with friends, staying with family, etc.” thing, just to keep a problem child out of the house.
I mean I’m just thinking if a child needs that level of help making reality shows and putting out interviews is just not the right priority. If he needs help and to learn to cope so do the parents.
Also, the media did not need to know about this. She didn’t need to explain why he isn’t there if she didn’t do the interview. Children in these situations don’t need the added scrutiny of their peers.
For kids with mental health issues an in patient treatment can be a good option. My niece did a 45 day in patient treatment to learn coping skills for paralyzing anxiety and the outcome was life changing for her and the family.
Yeah, but I assume the family also had to be involved in that treatment and your family wasn’t splashing your nieces business out to everyone she knows or ever will know.
The family was encouraged to openly discuss her treatment with other family and friends. There should be no shame in seeking help for mental illness and they wanted to make sure my niece did not feel this was something she had to hide or lie about. If Colin was being treated for asthma, would it be all right for Kate to discuss that publicly? Why should mental health treatment be viewed any differently?
@Megan, it’s easy to say that there should be no shame, but there is. Right now hundreds of thousands of children in US public school systems are growing up with the label of ASD, ADHD, etc etc. They are being raised believing that there is something inherently wrong with them, which isn’t true. It’s called neurodiversity, yet the common thought amongst “professionals” is that these kids are “special needs”, simply because they do not follow known patterns of development. Like it or not, once you are labeled as having mental health issues, narrow minded people will always think of you differently…and sadly the world is chock full of narrow minds.
He could have much deeper problems then anyone is willing to talk about right now. Kate may be glossing over how serious it is, just like she denied there was any problem at all for years.
Which is fine, really. There’s a lot of “should” being thrown around by people who don’t know the actual situation. Yes, Kate has been a crappy mother in many ways, but do you really think she’d mess with the rhyme scheme (and thus the easy public recognition which is how she lives) for a minor issue?
Read up on Oppositional Defiance Disorder. Tourette syndrome… those kinds of things. My step daughter had to be in an in-patient facility for over a year due to those issues (add bipolar disorder and body dysmorphia). Multiple trips by ambulance (because she was that out of control and needed to be sedated) to our hospital’s psych ward, multiple violent outbursts with the intent to harm us, police involvement, short stays in juvenile lock-up, multiple suicide attempts (cutting throat, wrists, stabbing herself with pens)… This started when she was 9, and we had to go through all of that to get doctors to agree that long-term in-patient care was what she needed. We had to do an IEP in school, then in-home tutoring, all while this was going on. Even with her violent tendencies. It took until she was 12. 3 years of this. Even with money, I doubt this was something she did lightly, or easily. And it is not always easy to get in a treatment center. I’m sure money is not an issue, but space is. There are not a lot of options out there for kids this age, that also involve a full school curriculum. Mental health care for youth in our country is severely lacking. And doctors are VERY hesitant to give mental illness diagnoses to children that age. It takes a lot to diagnose a young child. So, while I don’t know her situation, I do not doubt the necessity (when reading between the lines).
She has been out since January. And has only been in the psych ward once since being out. It has been 8 months. It is not perfect. But getting her away from everything, giving her what she views as “impartial” people to talk with, she has been able to work through things, and be more rational about her life. She learned VITAL coping skills. She has not reverted. She learned to appreciate her family… I could go on. It is not perfect. She still has her days. But she is able to recognize the signs of her getting worked up, and is able and willing, most of the time, to stop it dead in its tracks. (there are bad days, but nothing like what it used to be). And I know every situation is different and unique. But good comes out of it. Therapy works. You just have to find the right place/people/and medication.
(((*hugs*))) That must have been so difficult to handle. You sound like an awesome parent.
An inpatient facility is best for kids who have shown violent tendencies, anger issues, poor impulse control, things like that. My cousin and her husband sent their teenage boy to one of those programs. Of course the family visits and is expected to participate in the program. There are rules when the kids go back home. For instance, my cousin’s son could not be left alone in a room once he went back home. It was for everyone’s safety.
Never watched the show, but she and Jon have to be some of the most unlikable people to have ever been on TV. I remember seeing interviews with them and just thinking “NOPE.” So to know that 8 children are being raised by them is….UGH. Poor kids.
I watched it off and on when the kids were still pretty young. I couldn’t stand the parents. Honestly… it was always such a mess.
Sometimes I felt bad for Jon because she would just constantly yell at him, or order him around. Sometimes it was because he wasn’t doing something he should have been … but you just don’t talk to your spouse like that. On the other hand … he was a person who had just shut down. He didn’t care about the marriage. He shut down and trudged along like a zombie – which also isn’t good for your kids to see.
I get that kids can put a bit of a strain on any marriage… and they had A LOT of kids. But man. It was just so painful to watch. Both of them were highly flawed people, and staying together as long as they did was not the best move for their kids; at least in the way that they both handled themselves.
Kate seems to be on the pathological end of the narcissistic personality disorder spectrum along with some associated disorders. Full-blown narcissists are extremely difficult to live with. I’m not surprised that Jon had no idea what to do. He wasn’t a strong guy by nature, a follower rather than a leader. He’s also very social, so Kate’s relentless alienation of friends and family must have caused added stress. But he obviously felt he needed to be there for the kids, otherwise they would have divorced much earlier. They were informally separated for a long time (he didn’t live in the house but stayed above the garage). In talking about his “wild period” after the divorce, he said he decided that life just wasn’t for him and he missed his kids. He had therapy himself (Kate had refused) and that probably helped him understand what had been going on but the situation must have still been overwhelming. It would have taken an extraordinarily strong and centered man to deal with Kate and TLC and also trying to parent 8 kids and protect them from a narcissistic mother at a distance. My feeling is that he did the best he could manage, he just didn’t have the strength and skills to deal with the situation more effectively. He seems to be reasonably normal emotionally, so if he had married a normal woman he very likely would have done all right. But his experience with Kate had to have messed him up quite a bit also. Check out “narcissistic mothers” and “narcissistic spouses” to get more details about the effects on otherwise normal people.
Jon had been happy with just the twins, he wasn’t the sort to want to “try for a boy”. Kate was the one pushing and people who knew her said she was fascinated by the idea of having multiples. She admits that the doctors told her not to try that month because the fertility drug had resulted in too many eggs. Well, she did try and I wonder if she didn’t mention the doctors’ warning to Jon…
I remember being really uncomfortable watching them together too. It seemed……. very unhealthy.
I feel/felt sorry for Jon, he reminds me of a family member. Same sort of naturally chill, undemanding, quiet, follower type personality, married to an incredibly demanding, controlling woman. Her word is law and woe betide any who dare oppose her. But then I think, well, you chose her, you married her, and she’s been like this the whole time. Nobody ever understood why you liked her. For my family member, I think he finds her decisiveness comforting, even though it often veers into irrationally controlling. He’s filled with self doubt and she has none. Maybe without the TV show or perhaps the sextuplets Jon and Kate would have muddled along in relative comfort. Kate was his spine, which turned into an unendurable vise grip.
I remember thinking Jon was a saint at the time and that he must really love her to see the good in someone who seemed so unpleasant. In retrospect, I think what we were seeing was much darker. I don’t think he’s a saint anymore, but he’s certainly the more sympathetic figure of the two. I feel so badly for the kids.
@Wren I agree. Yeah, I feel bad when I see a spouse be barked at and humiliated by their spouse, especially in front of other people, but they did agree to marry them and build a life with them, Rarely do people change so abruptly between dating and marriage, so it couldn’t have been a surprise.
this x 100%
I hope the kids learn proper life skills as they grow up so they can gain skills, emotional intelligence etc to support themselves as they go through life with real jobs and develop good personal relationships. Both of their parents are terrible role models and if they (the parents) had any sense of humility they’d be ashamed of themselves.
I never watched this show, aside from a random clip or two, but I think a woman with twins and sextuplets would have to be “controlling” to cope. I see soccer mums falling apart with three evenly spaced kids, I cant imagine the levels of no prisoners taken organization you would need for 6 same aged kids and a husband like Jon.
I hate when people use that excuse for Kate 😤😤😤 it’s very clear you didn’t watch the she to make a comment like that Kate is a straight a B*tch and yes John is a mess, but he wasn’t always.
Again, I didnt watch this show but I do know that the reality show genre is all about staging and editing. I barely follow these people but I know that Jon cheated, Jon trawls for barely legal girls, Jon cant seem to hold down a job, Jon has sold stories to the press, Jon tried to extend his fame after his role in the show ended and Jon has had to be coerced to pay his share of child support. There are other things too but I want to limit myself to the stuff that is indisputable. I would say any man like this couldnt have started out “ok”. He was always an ahole, the audience just didnt see it. This reminds me of people who keep saying that Caitlyn was ok as Bruce when she was really just protected by how the storylines were developed, how the show was directed and how the product was edited. The Jon you see now was always the real Jon.
Funny how it all Jon Jon Jon did you not read any of the stories about Kate? Or are you just saying that she was made out to be the bad person on the show?
Since you seem to have avoided all the stories about Kate here goes. Kate cheated with her married bodyguard, Kate would scream at the top of her lungs at the kids for the simplest things, Kate used to keep a a wooden spoon in her car for hitting the kids when she felt they needed it. Kate has sold stories to the media about Jon and her kids, would cry broke to the media while getting $5000 haircuts, Kate has alienated almost everyone in her life, even reporters who have interviewed her don’t have a nice thing to say about her, Kate has been fired from Jobs because of her bad attitude and laziness.
I too can go on and on Kate too seemed like a nice person in the beginning so I guess this is her true personality. I still feel the same way about your comment your making excuses for HER behavior because if a man treated his kids or His wife the way Kate has treated hers you would have a different opinion on the situation.
I forget to add since you brought up editing, the show was edited to make it look like Kate did all the work, but that was a lie. They had tons of free help day and night who did all of the work, from the laundry, cleaning the house, cooking the food and helping out with the kids. Those people were interviewed and not one of them had a single nice thing to say about Kate.
It’s too bad you didn’t watch the show, since when they were still together Jon was clearly doing the bulk of the child-care and nurturing, despite having a full-time job outside the home, while Kate made endless lists, posted all over the house in full view of the cameras, of how her 100 volunteers/week were supposed to perform. Based on what’s been on the show in recent years, Kate is the one who has the problem, not her son. She’s treated him like crap in front of the cameras, one can only imagine what goes on when the crew leaves. Either he’s been resistant to filming (he was seen much less the last time the show was on) or to her. And anyone who doesn’t want to film is a liability to Kate and her reality TV “career.” Crowing about a People cover “ten years later” with one of the Plus 8 missing is just the latest tone-deaf “look at me” move from this heifer.
sorry, double comment posted
Naya’s comments often seem to begin with some form of, “I don’t know anything about this, but blah blah blah.” Then after someone calls her on her trollish BS, she responds with something like, “Like I said, I have no idea what I’m talking about, but blah blah blah.” 🙄
Yeah….I too wonder where those children learned that their father is ‘toxic’. I have a sneaking suspicion it may have been from their money grubbing control freak mum?
Bingo
Can you say “parental alienation”? She did a damned good job of it.
It’s very sad and later on in life some of them will regret that she alienated them from their father. Granted he’s no bargain, but she is a horrible person.
Kate gives me the creeps. If she suddenly peeled her skin off and revealed that she was some weirdo alien lizard…i wouldn’t be shocked
YES Remember the show “V”? Like that.
Oh my god the puppies!!! ♥
…and then people will say that the Garner-Affleck situation is awful for the kids. I mean, in a way I get it: there has to be a happy medium in how divorced people co-parent, but surely this isn’t preferable to how Garner-Affleck chose to handle things?
I really cannot stand either of these people. Their kids seem lovely though and I wish them all the best.
Apples and oranges. Why even compare those two?
I loathe that woman. She is the worst, a complete publicity hound and bad mother.
minx: I’m with you. Back in the early years of that show, she was just a plain flat out bitch. As strange as Jon was/is, I always felt bad for him. I totally believe she turned their children against him. Fortunately her day in the sun is gone, people figured out what kind of person she is. Have no idea how she has the People connection. Afterthought: When they were married, she hated dogs, they had one and she got rid of it. Total freaked out psycho.
I use to feel sorry for him, still do. He was never a match for Her batsh:t crazy b:tchiness. He genuinely seemed to care for the kids. I remember he told a story about how he would take one kid along when he had to run an errand of some sort. He explained that they’d go to a donut shop, he’d order a coffee, and give the free donut hole to the child. It was obvious he loved doing it, and he cherished that little tradition. She kept saying she had no idea he did something like that, and I remember wondering why she was acting so odd about him doing it and her not knowing, like it really seemed to confuse her or something. And he just kept telling his simple little story. To me at least, it was obvious he loved his children dearly. I never ever got that impression from her.
Thank god I have the parents I have. Stories like this make me eternally grateful for my chikdhiod, minor flaws and all. And i say that as a child of divorce.
I never could quite figure out how she ended up with everything, and he ended up with absolutely nothing.
TLC paid for her divorce lawyers.
Everything he got from TLC ended up with her for child support. Plus he kept going to court because she was blocking his time with the kids and continuing to film when he wanted to stop the cameras. That’s how he ended up with nothing.
She pulled a Machevellian move and made him give up his paternal rights,to have no say in whether the kids film. After all who can pay child support for 7 kids if you are broke.
I’ve always gotten the feeling that Kate is about image – like, the happy family. If Collin is struggling, for whatever reason, it feels like she moved him out in order to keep the “orderly family” image going. She will never, ever admit that her children have issues, or struggle, or anything else like that. Right now, I think the staff of wherever he is are probably the only people genuinely “looking out” for him, which is sad.
I don’t think it’s really fair to judge how she is dealing with one of her children having issues. We don’t know the details and he might really need to be in the place he is in. How can you say she’ll never admit her kids have issues? She’s just admitted that one does and is somewhere getting help. I can’t stand this woman either, but the comments about the way she is handling her son is insane. I think she’s going about this the right way. She’s admitting he has a problem, which I think is great because the stigma around mental health is shameful and she’s not giving exact details as to what his problems are, so she isn’t publicly shaming him. This is probably the only time I think she’s actually gone about something in a good way.
When Collin and one of the girls were expelled from kindergarten for abusive behavior directed against staff and other kids, she didn’t get them the help they needed. She just had them homeschooled. I think their dad wanted more done, but the combination of Kate and TLC was quite the steamroller in court. Jon wanted to pull the plug on the show while Kate was arranging everything around the show. She was shown on video being especially cruel to Collin. I think it’s possible that he might need inpatient care because his home life is so toxic and he’s been so stressed out by his mother all these years. Maybe it’s not about violence, although even a 12 year old can be suicidal. Lord knows what lies she’s told him about his father, so he might feel abandoned by Jon also.
Her son has a right to privacy. She should not be disclosing that he has a condition severe enough to warrant in-patient treatment in a national magazine. And speaking from experience, but when you’re in those types of centers, your contact with the outside world is pretty limited or monitored. So the poor kid doesn’t even KNOW that his mother blabbed about his “issues” to a magazine. It’s a basic privacy issue.
I thought she was a beast until I had five kids under six. I cannot imagine the stress of having so many kids at the exact same age. She’s obsessive and vicious to her ex husband but I can’t say I blame her.
Did you watch the show?
Kate is about the money/ fame lies to get it. This is the same women who were getting $5000 haircuts while crying broke to the public. This is the same woman who had a cushy job at Goupon and was getting a crazy amount of money for it. Kate was too lazy to write one article a week about how she saves money and because of her nasty attitude to her other co-worker and was fired. This is the same woman who screamed at her kids for eating the last slice of pizza, because she was going to give it to her bodyguards (married boyfriend). I don’t believe a word in this interview because she been turning the kids against thier father for years.
The show on TLC is a scam and has been since day one. The public was made to believe that John and Kate had no help with the kids which was a lie. Their church members and family members help out day and night for free. They did the Landry, cook the food, cleaned the house and help Kate take care of the kids. Not one of those people had a single nice word to say about her.
The volunteers! She had had a legion of people helping her, and cut them out as she got more famous.
She was also the same nasty woman who argued with Tony Dovolani on DWTS. SO much that Tony wanted to quit.
I’m sure her being a raging b*tch and an all-around awful person has nothing to do with the stress of having so many kids. One thing doesn’t exclude the other.
She kept a spoon around for hitting them with, and made sure to have loads of volunteers that helped her while she hired a bodyguard to squire her around. Jon sucked, too, but at this point, I think she’s manipulated her daughters to be like friends to her, since they’re too old for her other manipulations. And how about just saying nothing about Collin? It’s a private family matter, and he’s a kid. But they’re not human beings to her- they’re tools to manipulate, and an easy paycheck.
But Kate really wasn’t doing the work you do. She had loads of help, and Jon was the one who got them up in the morning, bathed and dressed and fed and put to bed at night. Jon was the one who played with them. When he was no longer around, she had untrained nannies (cheap, I suppose, and trained ones wouldn’t have put up with her). Whenever Kate was involved in feeding the children, it looked as though she was deliberately underfeeding them.
Did you use IVF and claim you were too religious to decrease the embryos,while begging for money at the same time?
Sure, yeah, so religious! Like the spanish inquisition–she’d fit right in!! I remember all of her crap from before the show…begging for free stuff, refusing things that were donated because they weren’t exactly what she wanted brand new, etc….the list never ended.
There is no need whatsoever for the world to know about her poor child’s mental/medical issues. I can accept that maybe those issues are so profound that the best option for him was an in-patient setting. But his story should be private until he is of age to decide if he wants to share it with millions. She could completely have avoided outing him by NOT doing this tenth anniversary story, not taking family photos taken without him in them, etc.
But she just couldn’t, could she? Her need for attention is too all-encompassing, “Look at me, I have a special needs child, I am so brave and noble dealing with his horrible problems all on my own!”. This from the mother who made money by allowing a TLC crew to tape her toddlers on the potty and broadcast it on tv. She is a truly loathsome, toxic parent.
you said it better than I did Chaine. I would never publicly share my child’s issues of that nature: he has a right to his own privacy and person.
I have a feeling the majority of those kids will run far and fast from their beast of a mother as soon as they can. I only hope some money from the show was put aside for each of them.
That’s precisely why I won’t comment on that subject, even though it’s my field. It’s a kid.
Even when Maddy was younger she had an attitude problem that should have been dealt with. So her saying her dad is toxic, I’m sure that is coming from herself than mom. Could mom’s attitude have influenced her? Sure but she is 15 years old after all, she can formulate her own opinion on these matters.
I don’t like to talk bad about kids, but Maddie is pretty awful. She has always been awful, since the beginning. I use to feel sorry for her parents and Cara. She was demanding, selfish and blatantly cruel to the littler kids. I have never disliked a child, but that one I could do without. She is Kate 2.0, her future husband and kids better watch out.
As as mom of a 14 year old and a 12 year old, I would take what she says about Jon with a grain of salt. Lots of teens say awful things about their parents.
She needs to go back to Coupon Cabin and stay there.
They fired her! It was like a big mess. They fired her and released a statement that shaded her very, very hard. It was genuinely hysterical and awesome.
We all knew this was going happen, the writing was on the wall years ago and yet here we are. Those poor, poor kiddos.
The Gosselins very public life having their family on a reality show is what has been toxic to this entire family.
The public knows better than to elieve everything out of either of these parents mouths- but it is also not hard to figure out Kate uses the children as pawns which is u fair to John to have his legal visitation rights manipulated away from him.
Regardless of the poor parenting here on both sides, all either one of these two do is complain about a family and life situation they both chose and in the end, it is all of the children who suffer. They are the only ones my heart goes out to.
Kate and John- grow up! Parent amicably together and stop the whining! You are both selfish, bitter and immature. Time to move on.
He gave up parental rights in return for not having to pay child support.
I’m not so sure about that – actually giving up parental rights is a major deal and has to go through the courts. They had some kind of arrangement that relieved him of child support payments eventually. Maybe just joint custody, the kids were supposed to spend about half the time with him but she kept finding ways to avoid that.
I’d forgotten about that. That must have been really hard for the children, to know their father relinquished his rights to them, How would that not mess with you?
Oh, I think he was steamrolled into doing that. Kate was making far more money than Jon was and she had the big house, nice cars, etc while he had a small apartment and low paying jobs. I think she manipulated him into doing that so SHE wouldn’t have to pay child support to Jon.
Poor kids.
I like Kate, even through her OCD- with that many babies, that OCD organization was probably a life saver back in the day.
And I do think she saved her kids’ money- which their dad would’ve spent on trashy girlfriends.
And I too wish he would stop talking about them in the press.
Their mom is far from perfect, but I think she does her best.
And clinging to face is partially about clinging to money.
No way she could afford to stay on that property as a single mother on a nurse’s salary.
Just one woman’s opinion.
Kate reportedly spent money like it was going out of style as well.
@ Aeial
You sound like a person who never watch the show or read articles about them.
As I posted above .
“The show on TLC is a scam and has been since day one. The public was made to believe that John and Kate had no help with the kids which was a lie. Their church members and family members help out day and night for free. They did the Landry, cook the food, cleaned the house and help Kate take care of the kids. Not one of those people had a single nice word to say about her.”
I guess you forgot about the $5000 dollars Kate spent on haircuts while cry broke to the and all the money she spent on designer clothes and cosmetics surgery. I’m guessing you also forgot the many times Kate has pimp her kids out to the press, O just like in the article above. Not to mention that Kate had been hooking up with her married bodyguard.
I forget to mention somthing else a wrote above. The cushy job Kate had at Goupon that she getting a crazy amount of money for. Kate was too lazy to write one article a week about how she handle money and that plus of her nasty attitude to her other co-worker and was fired.
@flowerchild, you need to relax. We get it! You’ve posted the same diatribe like 4 times now. Chill out! We all know Kate is terrible harpy! :o)
Kate was forced by the state to put 15% of show earnings into saving accounts for the eight children. The rest I’m sure she justified as “care of the children.” You know, the car, the haircut styles (in New York), the mansion, the designer clothes etc. She didn’t pay for vacations or household help, she is rolling in their dough.
15% split eight ways probably is not going to turn out to be very much.
She was picking away at the kids’ share for expenses plus she really has always been extravagant. Pennsylvania doesn’t have the same protective laws as California. I will be surprised if much is left for the kids.
If it’s gone, I’d like to see those children in court, taking the house from her and selling it for college tuition.
No I want 8 tell all books!
I am a mom to a child with vague special needs as well…he has significant ADHD, sensory, social, and oppositional issues, as well as significant learning disabilities. I think that child (and all children) deserves a degree of privacy about his health. It is not fair nor respectful of your child to be discussing their issues in the press.
I also want to point out that 1 in 5 minds of children are affected by mental health concerns. And for those judging about her child being placed in a residential program, I can’t even begin to tell you PLEASE DON’T. When my child has a meltdown or becomes erratic, it is SCARY: for him, for me, and for his brothers. I have another more neurotypical child who is very much affected by his brothers behavior: he is embarrassed to have friends over, has trouble sleeping, and has occasional anxiety attacks. So when you have one family member that needs care, it is the whole family that is also affected and needs to be considered as well.
Oh, glad we cleared that up. And here all this time I though Kate Gosselin was the biggest A-hole going. Isn’t she?
Hope she doesn’t pimp her daughters like a certain someone.
You know she’s thinking about it!
People’s readership must really be down to be going back to the TLC well. I guess that’s what happens when you keep publishing lame stories about celebrity babies.
I’m going to guess that she came out with her Son’s inpatient treatment because she wanted to get it out there before the media did. She’s still relevant enough that A) Celebitchy decided to do a post on them, B) We are reading this post and C) it would sound more scandalous if a tabloid dug deep and found out where Colin was.
“Kate +8 son Locked Away in Mental Health Inpatient Centre!!!” I could only imagine. She is vague enough to not really give enough details away but to explain she is taking care of her son’s mental health.
As for her personally, yeah.. I agree with most said here.
Thank you! People are acting like she’s shaming her son and calling him out. I don’t think there is anything wrong with admitting that your child has issues. It’s not like she’s gone into details about it and you’re right, could you imagine if a tabloid dug around and outed the kid? At least this way she can control the narrative to the best of her ability.
Because people still find mental illness shameful. Which is shameful in itself. If more people would talk about these issues openly maybe we as a society could have an actual dialogue about them…
He may still be a minor, but he’s a separate human being with the rights to his own privacy. It’s not her place to publicly expose his health issues be they physical, mental, emotional, or all of the above. She has no right! And, the press wouldn’t be able to “out” that either, as he’s a minor. There was no threat of a story that she had to “get in front of.” She wants attention, and I’ve no doubt she needs this out there to begin a campaign to “fund” his care. She has an agenda.
Ever heard of HIPAA?
HIPAA is about what health care providers and insurers can disclose about someone’s health. Doesn’t apply to this situation.
I don’t think it’s specifically outing his mental health issue that bothers me. I feel she shouldn’t even be putting his story out there at all, whether it’s mental or physical health, it’s not her story to tell. Of course mental health should not be stigmatized, and people should feel free talking about theirs, but she is NOT talking about her own mental health issues! This is her son’s story to tell.
I have never watched the show. It is my opinion that the children are victims of narcissistic abuse which is psychological torture. Millions of Americans found it entertaining to watch a parent psychologically torture her children.
Ding ding ding we have a winner.
On an extension of this, I think you are correct as well and psychological abuse is more difficult to recover from than sexual or physical. Actually, psychological abide is equivalent to being both physically abused and isolated. These children will never recover.
I always figured Kate was going to have to watch her back once the six younger kids reached their teens. They outnumber her and will not be so easily pushed around. We shall see if my prediction holds.
So sad…growing up after a childhood of thinking my narcissistic parents were ‘normal’ has been a BITCH. Expensive, too (therapy).
Terrible dad. Terrible mom. Who the f*ck allows their children to be interviewed in a MAGAZINE about their personal lives?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Like the special needs kid, the 15 year old…what is this a therapy session??? No, just another way for Kate to exploit her children’s lives.
The comments from Mady remind me of the alienation that went on during my parents divorce some fourteen years ago; my mom convinced us she was totally faultless in everything and that our dad was a terrible person who didn’t want us and was out to “destroy” her. We lost contact with him until we were young adults, I was 19 when I spoke with him again. He died unexpectedly nine months later and now I have painful regrets for the rest of my life, thanks mom. Maybe parents should try being less manipulative and selfish and put their kids’ best interest ahead of their own petty revenge, just a thought.
I am so sorry for what you went through. Unfortunately, parental alienation is not uncommon. I know a couple who divorced when their kids were 11 and 12; their mother did exactly what yours did and they didn’t see their father for years. When they reached their twenties, they looked him up and discovered that he is really a very nice person who loves his kids dearly but was prevented from seeing them by his ex-wife’s machinations and manipulations. They now have a great relationship with him – but when their mother found out they were seeing him, she disowned them and has refused to have any contact with them. Sick, sick woman.
Happy ending, though.
Crazy these kids have grown so much! They all look great and some of the sextuplets look a lot alike. Hope the other kid gets better.
Kate Gosselin is on the cover of PEOPLE for one reason and one reason only: Kate Coyne. Two of a kind.
Kate only gave one of the German Shepherds back. The one she kept, Shoka, is the father of these two pups.
I was at a large garden festival over the weekend. The big field had about 60-80 vendors and there was about 5-6 thousand people there. I was sitting at the eating area, which was divided by a small children’s play zone. A senior lady tapped me on the shoulder and asked me to watch her 18mo grandson who was in a sand box, for 2 minutes and then took off. No idea who she was. It was about 10 minutes later when I started debating taking my new baby home. 15 minutes after that, I saw the manager of the festival who is a friend, and asked him if he wanted to take over babysitting, because I had to leave. The woman showed a couple minutes after that, laughing that she had forgot about the baby. I really should have taken my new baby home.
Ugh this horrible woman. Also what’s with the matching flowing tresses with her and the older girls? Her hair looks bad.
I don’t doubt she brainwashed the kids against John.
Collin, if you ever run away, I want you to write a tell all book!
They had a show on TLC several years ago called ‘ Table for twelve”. It was awesome. You’ll have to google I guess.
Jon’s gene is STRONG y’all ! About 5 out of 8 looks between East Asian and Pacific Islander.