For about a week now, we’ve known that Angelina Jolie’s brother James Haven has been sticking close to Angelina and the kids since Jolie filed for divorce. While James hasn’t been Angelina’s go-to premiere date in nearly 16 years, James has always been around. Angelina and James never had a falling out or an estrangement or anything – they’ve always been close and they’ve always been in each other’s lives. I honestly don’t know what James does for a living, but according to Us Weekly, he’s dropped everything so he can sort of work as a “manny” to Angelina’s kids. Hm.
All in the family. While Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt work out the terms of their divorce, Jolie’s older brother, James Haven, is currently playing manny to the couple’s six children at their temporary home in Malibu, a source tells Us Weekly.
“He took on a more active daily role in June,” the source explains. “The kids call him ‘Uncle James.’”
Haven, 43, is perhaps best remembered for sharing an infamous kiss with Jolie, 41, on the Oscars red carpet in 2000, when his younger sister, in full goth mode, won the Academy Award for best supporting actress (for Girl, Interrupted) and said, “I’m so in love with my brother right now” at the podium. The shocking moment caused fans to make accusations of incest and criticize the siblings’ too-close-for-comfort relationship. But, the source tells Us, there’s at least one important person who isn’t bothered by the brother-sister duo’s dynamic.
“Brad thinks highly of James,” the source adds. “He’s always been incredible to the kids and is welcome in his home.”
Yeah, at this point, I don’t think anyone cares if Brad “approves” of James, although I guess it’s nice that Brad isn’t throwing a tantrum about his kids’ uncle spending a lot of time with the kids during a difficult time. I think it’s less about James acting as a manny and more like he’s just a hands-on uncle and supportive brother to Angelina.
Meanwhile, People Magazine made a big deal about how Brad finally saw the kids this week. Or as People said, “Brad Pitt has reunited with his children.” He hadn’t seen the kids since Angelina bolted with them following the airplane incident, and while the DCFS investigation isn’t over, the terms of their temporary custody arrangement means that Brad gets to see the kids as long as there’s someone there to monitor him. Perhaps James Haven is the monitor? Anyway, a source told People: “Brad has spent some wonderful time with children recently.”
Photos courtesy of WENN, Getty.
It’s just a picture, it’s just a picture, it’s…. just… a ….. picture. How nice that he is around for his sister during her time of need.
Hehe- he looks like he’s had a few too many espressos.
Yes, he has that deer in the headlights look in his face.
I wonder what is up with him. He looks a little off. It is the frozen look on his face and his energy through the photos.
That bug-eyed look can happen when you’re hyperthyroid….
He looks like the UNSUB of the week on Criminal Minds about the eye region.
I think he looks a bit like Burke Ramsey.
Payapa, I was thinking the same thing.
DAYUM, Papaya…when I saw the Burke interview I was trying to figure out who he reminded me of, and you nailed it!
He is living proof that some features look amazing on one person and on others…not so much.
LOL, BEBEA. I was worried when I clicked that I wouldn’t be able to shake the memory of Angie & James making out at the Oscars, but fortunately I was distracted by that creepy picture and his clear intent to rain down evil on us all.
@Bettyrose: Really stupid comment considering they never made out at the Oscars. They kissed on the lips for a second. I’m really baffled why haters keep saying this but whatever. I actually don’t know why it was scandalous at the time.
It was for more than a second and there was a little tongue.
@louise177: I tried to Google the image in hopes of finding that video. They kiss ALOT. I have a brother and we are real tight. I have girlfriends who have brothers and they too are very close with their brothers and I can assure you the way AJ and her brother kiss makes us wonder WTF they are thinking.
And if you want to tell someone you don’t agree with their comment there are more constructive ways to say it with insulting them and using the word stupid.
Angelina and James look so similar!
I hope I don’t annoy people as it really isn’t any of my business. But he does look like he may be batting for the other team? I know he hasn’t come out yet but considering Jon Voight is a raging conservative (doesn’t defend Angelina against Trump for example) perhaps he hasn’t felt comfortable about it?
*ducks for cover*
I got that vibe from the blond hair pic. But none of our business really
I remember reading he was in a longterm relationship with a woman and that they were engaged.
I read he is a born again Christian and has a girlfriend.
I think they’re married now. Not sure though.
Also, ‘acting as manny,’ or maybe just ‘Uncle James? ‘
This headline reminded me of some recent piece that said, all the kids call James, ‘Uncle James,’ and I was like…uh…probably because he’s their Uncle James.
Sheesh. Lol
Yeah, in related shocking news they call their mother and father mom and dad….
Obviously its not important and none of our business but very little of what we discuss here is important or any of our business. He does ping! In fact thats the main reason those open mouth kisses with his sister didnt bother me. I just thought it was like Papa Joe remarking on Jessica Simpsons boobs, nothing there. But its complicated with James because he has had a long term girlfriend and no public same sex relationships. I wouldnt expect him to be closeted given that his sister wasnt but on the other hand, he is also super religious of the born again variety. He could be closeted. He could be bi. Maybe he is straight. Dunno.
@naya
I always feel obligated to point this out, because I’m kind of an old, and I was there.
The reason why you will never find pics or footage of “open mouth,” or “french” or “tongue” kissing from Angelina’s Oscar win night with her brother, is because it didn’t happen.
It was a major event covered across the globe and by all the shows. There were candids, stills, video footage, etc. – that would have captured it all. They didn’t. They don’t exist because THAT didn’t happen.
I’m not saying they didn’t kiss. They kissed on the mouth on several different occasions to celebrate her win. It might have been uncomfortably long for a lot of people. Maybe because they were hot, young and had lips the size of Volkswagens. Later on they had some fun with the ridicule, rebelling by doing a photo shoot showing the same kiss. That didn’t quite anything down of course.
I think because these were two young 20-somethings and Angelina was sex on a stick and her brother was her tall goth mirror, some people didn’t know what to make of them so had some fun.
You had two pairs of giant sexy lips mashing together, so it wasn’t gonna resemble Michael Douglas and his Dad Kirk, kissing on the mouth (which they do, a lot).
But I’m here to tell you, that’s all it was.
I also can say, that in the aftermath no one really thought it a big deal, they made fun and had jokes with inferences, but it wasn’t serious – because it was fresh, people were there and saw them – and knew what it was and what it wasn’t. A couple of late night jokes at the time were just jokes, no one took them seriously.
In the intervening years, as Angelina’s stardom grew post Oscar win, and resentment from some with it, along with tabloid culture – it grew to ridiculous lore somehow, so that it became an actual suggestion of incest by hateful nasty types. It really wasn’t fair to them.
Just my two cents, oh and facts. Lol
Honestly, wasn’t the thumbnail picture selected here to give some sort of “impression?”
@almondmilk Actually I have never seen the video. I posted that because I had just seen a pic on DM today and it was awkward. Lips were definitely parted and as a black girl with voluptuous lips, I assure you I do not kiss blood relatives in that way. My lips clamp tight in the vicinity of a male relatives lips. Its involuntary. That doesnt mean that their relationship is shady, maybe parted lips arent big deal for them. It is for me and clearly most people, in that its awkward to look so it helps if I can believe that he isnt even into women to begin with.
@naya
There is no one video. It was the Academy Awards. It was covered 10 different ways from Sunday. I remember and saw footage from all over, stills and candids. There was no intentional ‘open mouthed kiss.’ Period.
Some people say they tongue kissed and French kissed, which isn’t true.
It’s nice you say whatever you saw doesn’t mean their relationship is shady despite the still or frame you looked at on Daily Fail. As we know how things can be misconstrued and some frames deliberately chosen as opposed to others.
You say you saw ‘parted lips’ but there’s another from that same set at the globes where they both have closed lips. Maybe what you saw occurred in the milliseconds before lips close after being surprised by a peck. I’m sure the video shows a different story. If I select a frame from the Michael and Kirk Douglas kiss I’m sure I can get them pre-pursed pout too.
As a black girl with voluptuous lips myself, who knows 30 frames per second on a Papz camera captures a lotta shi* you might not get on your camera phone, I won’t be accusing people of incest until I have more proof than an awkward angle during a quick smootch.
I’m glad you won’t either. After 17 years both siblings deserve a break.
I think it’s because of the huge pink lips, they might give an effeminate impression or something.
But I don’t think he’s gay, he comes across as a really gentle and nice guy.
Are you saying he’s a Trump voter?!?!???!
What I find amazing about their looks is that they do look so much alike, yet Angelina is beautiful and he is pretty unattractive. I guess those genes don’t look good in male form.
Yeah I thought the same thing too.
He looks just like her but creepy. Glad she has support though, she’ll need it!
I think it’s the wide-eyed surprised look. I’ve never seen video footage of him, so I’m not sure if it’s just for photos that he looks this way, or if his eyes generally more relaxed when not being snapped by a camera.
I despise getting my picture taken because the moment I’m aware of a camera in my direction, my eyes seem to take on a life of their own, doing some weird squinty thing that I honestly cannot help!
Crazy how much brother and sister resemble one another!
I look absolutely insane on photos taken with flash. He has my sympathy. The picture with him and Maddox (?) looks lovely.
Crazy eyes.
Exactly!
Does this guy have a job?
He has CRAZY eyes in the pics but like @Colleen says, maybe it’s just in pictures?! My husband and son have blue eyes and they both have sensitive eyes. My husband has to make his eyes really wide for pics otherwise, he’ll close them. Maybe James is the same way??
Mary Poppin’eyes.
Note: Not original. I read it on another site, but thought it so funny I had to share.
Super- caffeinated.
Maybe that always surprised look is too much Botox? I think he is also an actor, but doesn’t get much work.
“Brad had a wonderful time with children.” Assuming they meant his children.
I always assumed it was cocaine eyes.
It looks to me like a Botox situation? His forehead is so smooth and unmoving. Did he do one of those Botox brow lifts and end up looking like Pee Wee Hermann?
Her old face! I’m always startled to see it again.
She was so gorgeous when she was a healthier weight!
And pre-surgery. They’ve been very skillful, but that’s a whole lotta different procedures.
@Betsy – What all do you think she’s had done?
it’s strange…I’ve been seeing a LOT of pics of her from years ago, both Pre-Brad and in their early years together, and she does look quite different.
can’t tell if it’s age, weight, or surgery, or a combo of all three.
I mean, she’s lovely now and she was lovely then, but she does look “softer” in the older pics.
and what is UP with his crazy “coke” eyes? EVERY pic he looks like that…
I had to laugh with the “they call him Uncle James”. He. Is. Their. UNCLE! what the hell else would they call him?!
I look “softer” in my old pics. As you age, you loose fat and softness in your face, especially if you don’t gain any weight.
yeah, that’s why I mentioned weight as one of the factors. though, she doesn’t look much heavier body-wise in the “softer” pics.
I think she has been using Botox quite liberally in the last couple of years.
I think it’s mostly age and weight, but I do agree that a while back she was Botoxing or something.
IMO she looks better with a little more weight on her. I’ll give her some of my extra!
That hasn’t necessarily to do with overall weight, but with under-skin fat. I weigh about the same since age 16 (I’m 41 now) and I look less “soft” than in older pics.
@Betsy
Really? Still with this?
Look at her with him, in her early 20s.
Is that a face that you walk into a plastic surgeon’s office with and say, please commence ‘with a lotta different procedures.’
To what gain? This is a woman who at the same time was covering herself in tattoos, shaving her head, and dating a woman (back when it wasn’t done, and sort of scandalous to announce that you were if you were trying to get acting gigs). It doesn’t make sense that she’d walk into a plastic surgeons and say, ‘Please change my beautiful stunning perfect face to something….oh…more perfect please?’
If anything seeing her brother’s features, and her father’s as a very young man let’s you know that yes, those are her lips, cheekbones and jawline and eye sockets. Unless you want to accuse her Dad and bro of having plastic surgery.
The girl was making music videos at 16 and 19. There’s a YouTube of her at 15 or 16 at a photo shoot, she’s pretty skinny and pretty beautiful. Face looks the same, maybe a tad fuller. Not much. One of the least changed people from then to now that I’ve seen. https://youtu.be/CieGzCFgbGU
She had a nose job in her teens.
I’ve seen that video before and yes the contour of her face has changed and she did get a nose job.
Yes, really still with this. Is it a surprise to you that many in entertainment make significant changes to their appearance? Yes, even the ones who play at not caring about their looks! For heaven’s sake, you should see this girl from my high school who moved out to L.A. to make it big, a complete nobody who looks nothing like herself. It’s not uncommon.
@betsy
When these pics that you exclaimed are ‘her old pre-surgery face, ‘ were taken, Angelina was already an established Oscar winning box office breaking movie star and referred to as ‘The Most Beautiful Woman in the World.’She’s between the ages of 23-29 in these pics. In the 2nd pic she’s pregnant with Shiloh.
Are you saying *after* these pics, she had a bunch of plastic surgery (you say ‘a lotta procedures/significant’) at 29 or in her early to mid 30s and changed her whole face?
Does that make sense to you? To anyone?
There is no basis for that. It’s a wild accusation IMO.
There’s no denying she’s had at least a nose job
Actually, Angelina, I think, resembles her beautiful, late mother the most: same huge eyes and full lips and face shape. There is some passing resemblance to her father, certainly, but overall I think she looks far more like her mother.
Yes, almondmilk, I do think she had a lot of procedures. That is not the same face.
I think James and Angie look like they’ve had two nose jobs. Neither have the same nose from when they were little, nor the noses from their late teens/early twenties. Now a days, I’m not sure if they simply have the same surgeon, or one deliberately used the other’s final nose for inspiration. But now their noses are very similar.
And there’s absolutely nothing wrong in what I’ve speculated on. It occurs daily in the majority of the stories here. And while some believe she’s the beautiful stunning perfect woman, it’s unlikely that Angie thought the same. I would post pictures to make my point, but why bother? I’ll just be told that I’m not seeing what I’m seeing.
BTW, there’s nothing wrong with plastic surgery, and I would be hard pressed to name a female actor without a nose job. I’m not slamming Angie, who I’ve always loved and supported. I’m being pragmatic.
I don’t know why people keep saying Angelina has had massive amount of plastic surgery. She looks pretty much the same. Maybe she had a nose job and had something else done but claiming she looks completely different is ridiculous. Especially since you are comparing photos that are 15-20 years apart. I’m sure if you pulled out your old photos you would see a big difference as well.
What is this “manny” word? I dont care if he is a man, a nanny is a nanny. Makes no difference if he is male or female.
Awww… I love that word!
Actually the term made it into the pop culture lexicon a few years back, I remember hearing it a lot. A couple books, I think, were responsible for coining the term. I agree that it’s silly and I do think it’s supposed to be tongue in cheek.
it’s men with their fragile masculinity; they can’t possibly be a nanny, they need some testosterone in it. i’m a nanny but i’m also a MAN!
And in that last picture, isn’t that a toddler-sized Maddox being carried by James? Maddox was so little that James only needed one arm to carry him, LOL.
So he’s obviously been helping Angelina out for a long, long time.
And baby Maddox was so freaking sweet with his little Mohawk and fierce expression!
There’s an incredible picture floating around from when she was filming Lara Croft….she and toddler Maddox were laying side by side on a bed, with arms crossed behind their heads. He was emulating her and he looked like such a big personality in a tiny little boy.
This was just after Billy Bob Thornton left and it just became the 2 of them. Very poignant.
I know the pic you mean, and it is REALLY cute.
That was part of a Vanity Fair shoot. There is another picture in that shoot showing her chasing Maddox around the carpet on her hands and knees and he is giggling like he’s having the time of his life.
https://goo.gl/images/3YVjdV
Like when people say “male nurse.” You mean… a nurse?
For me, “manorexia” drives me crazy. It’s anorexia, regardless of gender!
Again the media just makes up stuff because they got nothing concrete from both the parties.
As usual Brad & Angelina are doing their thing working together behind the scenes while the rest of the world can only speculate.
Brad is a family orientated man and he has never shown any dislike for James. Brad was the reason Jon was allowed back into the family as well. I also don’t think Brad’s parents have anything against Angelina because they would know about his abuse problems.
They could have tried to get him to go to rehab but weren’t able to. Now this situation could finally have made Brad realise he needs help in a big way to win back his children’s and Angelina’s trust.
“As usual Brad & Angelina are doing their thing working together behind the scenes while the rest of the world can only speculate.”
So why was he ‘blindsided’ then?
I don’t trust anything Us says because they seem to be invested in trying to make him look good.
Blindsided my ass
They’re not making things up. There are pictures of James playing with the kids on a playground, they were said to be taken right before the divorce announcement. Then on some fansite you can see they snapped pictures of the kids with James at that first home Jolie rented. He’s definitely helping her take care of them since the divorce. He used to be papped while taking them from school with Jolie or some random normal stuff. The fact that he’s been around and papped 2 times without Jolie present already indicates he’s involved more.
James has been popping up more since 2016 actually, travelling with her. How on earth do these people live their lives? James is not a celebrity, how can you drop your life to be at your sister’s beck and call? I think it’s normal to be supportive but I do wonder how you can just go up and help your sister that intensively?
Think the last year he was more with his sister because the marriage was already falling apart. There are more pics of angie and kids with james and only a few with brad. Take note.
He could be self-employed or between jobs or rich enough that it’s no big deal to let the business go on without him physically present. Nowadays you can even participate in meetings via video conferencing on a laptop computer. Many jobs actually can be done long-distance via computer now.
Angelina may pay James a salary as some employee on paper. I think a lot of rich celebs do this with relatives…
He’s not rich enough on his own. He works on small films as a producer or actor (small throwaway parts) once or twice a year. I cannot imagine him being rich enough to have a disposable income to travel along his sister who can have that lifestyle because she gets millions for 1 film. It’s not logical.
During that heroine video that leaked a few years ago, Jolie in the late 90s was worried about her mother and her brother and it seems like James was lost like his sister for some reason as he financially relied on his sister and mother (who also didn’t have a lot of money). Like many famous celebrities, she seemed to financially help out her family a lot. I think she still helps him out and that he lives costless with her but I doubt she would pay him a salary or some kind.
Either way, James is not some hotshot in the entertainment business so I doubt he’s financially stable enough to live on his own money for a long time while residing with Jolie.
Where did I read that she signs off a percentage of her income to him every year? Something about her mothers dying wish. Anyway based on that ver vague recollection, I would say he has had challenges with something like depression or anxiety and his mother anticipated that he would need a helping hand.
There are also pics of the kids with a female nanny at the grocery store taken the day after they were at the park so they have a nanny besides their Uncle James.
He’s an actor, with a handful of small roles in his credits, but not in the last few years…he studied filmmaking at USC and has a couple directing credits as well.
I read some time ago that Angelina has always given 10% of her earnings to James, at the request of their mother. A sort of familial tithe, you could say. If that’s accurate, he doesn’t need to work, as it would be a steady income in the (possibly low) millions.
@artemis
Just because he’s no “hot shot in entertainment” that doesn’t mean he’s destitute or reliant on Angelina foe income.
Personally I think a woman who was giving a quarter of her income to humanitarian causes at one time would be happy to help her brother who doesn’t make 20 mil plus back end on films. If I made that kind of change, I’d mmediately make my only sib a millionaire.
Because James doesn’t regularly produce or direct or act, that doesn’t mean he has no income, or needs Angelina’s help. He might have passive income, be an investor in various businesses or real estate or both. That kind of revenue is not what gets posted on imdb.
I’m sure whatever he does, he doesn’t have to punch a clock or show up in an office and do a 9 to 5. He can be there for his sister if she needs him, or even if she doesnt- just to hang out.
@almondmilk
You’re dragging many other pointless things into your argument. Why make a case for it to be normal that Haven relies on his sister for financial support when you’re going to make up some income for him in the next paragraph? What’s your point? Is he financially independent or not? What we know is that he’s an actor and producer so I’m basing my argument on his financial independence on the facts that are researchable, that’s all.
Based on Jolie’s own words when they were both in their early 20s + his IMDB which is economic to say the least, it’s pretty logical to assume he’s not living completely financially independently. He would have to work a lot more to meet the costs he’s racking up now. Plus what other posters have said, if it’s true that Jolie gives him a percentage of her income per her mother’s dying wish, I find that a bit sad that a HEALTHY adult man has to rely on his younger sister to be financially stable. It’s easy to not make money your priority when somebody else gives you it I suppose but I smell a lack of work ethic because baby sis takes care of everything. We often condemn celebrity family who want money and tell them it’s not up to the celebrity to provide for them, why would Haven be different? If he can’t get enough artistic work, go find yourself other jobs in the meantime man. He seems like a person who only works when it completely suits his values and needs instead of compromising and working steadily because that’s life.
And yeah, he can be there to support her, my point was that he’s been getting papped increasingly since 2016 which I find overly supportive if he had a life of his own. To up and leave your own home to be at your sister’s side which means you have to fly in and out of countries on a regular basis + helping with childminding tasks is not your average ‘come cry on my shoulder’ support. But then what would I know, I’m not a millionaire with money to spare so I suppose this is considered normal in their world.
@Artemis
I’d remind you this is a bloid story. James being papped with the kids a couple times does not a “manny,” make. He’s their uncle. It’s not strange to visit your own family and nieces and nephews.
For some odd reason, you’re basing your opinion of James on what out of context/one sided phone conversation you heard on a grainy video clip from 20 years ago. Well, he’s 43 now. Maybe he’s not the same person. Maybe he’s grown up like most people do. Or, maybe the convo wasn’t what you think it was. You seem to want to turn him into the image of a humiliating freeloader at Mistress Angelina’s beck and call for cash. Your version makes her look demanding and him look emasculated. Same old Angelina tabloid narrative.
The point is, we have no idea about his income. Where it comes from or how he gets it. You can’t base his entire income on what you find on imdb. Tracey Ellis Ross has a boutique in Beverly Hills that generates income, it’s not on her IMDB. Eva Longoria has a restaurant, also not on IMDB. Ashton Kutcher invests in many products and businesses that aren’t listed on his IMDB.
My point remains the same, you have no idea.
Also, why so angry and contemptuous of a person you have no clue about?
It’s like people enjoy lashing out at Angelina relatives too. Who does that?
@almondmilk:
Tabloid story or not, he has been seen more with Jolie, travelling with her and being present a few days before and during the divorce. This story isn’t based on nothing.
In the 16-minute clip, she is most concerned about her brother and mother not being financially stable and denying themselves things because they can’t afford it or if she doesn’t provide it because they are too proud to ask for it. If you would listen to it, the context would become very obvious. Like most people, she wants to see her loved ones in a stable situation and wonders how it would be if she wasn’t working. I don’t have to make things up here, she says it herself.
All the people you listed have had successful (multiple) careers in the entertainment business which allowed them to pour their own money into their own business. You’re comparing apples with oranges.
I know Jolie has mentioned throwing parties when Haven finished a directing job so I doubt she wouldn’t mention if he had a business. She’s very proud of his work and has never mentioned any career outside an artistic one which can you imagine the free publicity he would gain from it? His first directing job starred her! Pretty sure there is a ‘recent’ article about his directing career, he’s going to direct some indie film, I don’t know.
I just don’t believe he has that entrepreneurship in him nor the funds but I guess you can’t disprove it so here we are.
No, I think his sister is a first priority for him, no matter what his life is. And I think that suits their relationship dynamic fine. They seem to only have each other and that can be quite intense when you only have 1 person you trust 100% in your whole family. I don’t think that’s particularly healthy but I don’t think it’s damaging either as she has the money to support this dynamic. I also think it’s mutual. Jolie seems to only be close to very few people and her brother (and previously mother) and kids are her n°1 priority too.
We’re all on the same gossip board, it doesn’t matter. It’s not like Jolie and her brother care about any of this or know us personally. It’s all good.
They pretty much took recent pics of James with the kids and created a storyline. They don’t have any real news so they’re going to stick to obvious stories. If you’ve seen recent pics of James with his nieces and nephews, you and I could have created this story.
@Maya who wrote, “Brad was the reason Jon was allowed back into the family as well”
Angelina addressed this question of Jon Voight in an interview with Cynthia McFadden. He is NOT the reason she allowed Jon back in her life. Watch the video below to get the true story and not your made up “facts”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tExdHnPqg
The part that stuck out to me was when she said they wouldn’t have six kids if they didn’t plan on growing old together. Damn, some things don’t always go as plan.
Brad seems super laid back. I don’t understand why anyone would assume he would have a problem with Angie’s own brother helping out with the kids. It’s always nice for extended family to put in time with your kids. I would think he would be grateful to him for this.
Exactly – I think both sides families are super close and are helping out in time of need.
Wow, it’s so easy for people (on this site) to demonize Brad and make him seem like a monster. How quickly they turn. You would think he was Mel Gibson. None of us know for sure exactly what happened on that plane, we are just speculating and assuming the worse scenario possible. I’m speculating that there were already serious issues in their marriage and this was just it for AJ.
It’s good she has close family around to help with the kids. Her mother passed away, she’s estranged from her father, thank God for her brother.
“None of us know for sure exactly what happened on that plane”
His own sources told People he was drunk and put his hands on that kid (and then they edited that part of course).
“None of us know for sure exactly what happened on that plane”
we do know, because he admitted it.
He fell from grace quickly!
Great post with an added star for spelling “plane” correctly, versus the “plain”, I have seen so much:)
I appreciate good spelling too. Can’t help but wince a little evertime I see words that often gets mixed up such as “bear up” versus “he bared his torso”, or “pay a fare” versus “he is fair”.
And my personal favourite: “That didn’t faze him” versus “That’s just a phase”.
People, one word: autocorrect. My iPhone has a mind of its own. I only bother editing its “corrections” if the meaning wouldn’t be clear. Many sites don’t even allow editing, and sometimes sites that do are running slow so it becomes impossible to edit. I type fast even one-finger on the phone (at least 100 wpm on a regular keyboard) and outrun the autocorrect, which has enough of a delay that it will change the text just before I hit send. Why it assumes “well” should really be “we’ll” I will never know. Anyway, today – always assume it’s a combination of wayward autocorrect combined with difficulties proofreading on a tiny screen. Because it probably is. If the mistake had been left alone, the poster might have noticed it. But any typo will trigger autocorrect’s tiny little brain and it often makes the wrong choice between similar words.
@Carla & Elle.
I know what Brad admitted to. I’m talking about the events that led up to the almost physical altercation. We don’t know what was said, what the argument was about or anything going on beforehand. All we know is that Brad and AJ was in a verbal altercation and he allegedly lunged at Maddox and AJ got in between them and Brad allegedly made contact with Maddox shoulder. We don’t know for sure if he was lunging at him to hit him or lunging at him to just get in his face and say Maddox shut up, or stay out of this. For all we know the contact that he made with Maddox’s shoulder could have been an accident. Maybe he meant to hit him, maybe he didn’t. We don’t know.
Hey guys my smartphone tends to think it knows what I want to say. For example I mean their as in people but my phone changes it to there. Or your when I mean you’re. I must admit I don’t always proofread. When I do get a chance to go back and read what I wrote I’m like thanks smartphone, great job. Now I look like my grammar is on a third grade level or lower.
We know he was drunk.
Don’t get drunk on a plane in front of your kids.
Don’t get high in front of your kids.
If you are doing one of the above you need to address that issue because that is unacceptable,IMO.
I personally haven’t seen anyone “demonize” him.She is the one portrayed as evil.He is the one who is crying while she is plotting,scheming to destroy him.
Y Colette says:
If you are doing one of the above you need to address that issue because that is unacceptable, IMO.
That is your opinion though and you don’t get to dictate how others choose to parent. It isn’t illegal and in contact of the situation it wasn’t all that wreckless or uncommon. There were sober adults around if anything happened, someone else was responsible for them, the kids are older and could hang back, listen to music, watch a movie, play on their iPads, ect. They aren’t at the age they would be constantly clamoring for daddy’s attention and need adults to take care of them and actively entertain them. Lots of people drink when they fly or take heavy medication. Hurtling through the air in a tin can with a person you have been trading barbs with and are rapidly approaching the end of a twelve year relationship with. Granted she was struggling with the same thing and maintained her composure. Also, using alcohol to self medicate is a very unhealthy behavior. It is how psychological addiction begins which can then turn to physical addiction. That behavior needs to be addressed in the therapy sessions that are part of their temporary parenting plan and he needs to find other healthy coping mechanisms.
His drug test was clean. If that’s true it means he didn’t smoke the day of or a few days before this happened. Even with his low amount of body fat THC metabolites would be detectable for at least a week in a casual user and for nearly 30 days if he was a regular user.
So all we know is he drank on an international flight, there was an argument (we don’t know who it was with or what it was about), he yelled at Maddox, he hit Maddox’s shoulder in way that I am sure hurt and was maybe scary but didn’t cause an injury. We know he feels badly about it, we know he is owning his behavior, accepting the consequences and trying to fix the underlying issues that caused him to lash out in such an extreme and out of character manner. He is also attending therapy to help Maddox to deal with the fallout, apologize, rebuild trust and try to ensure this doesn’t happen again. He is doing all of this without being forced and facing his flaws instead of retaliating against Angelina for calling him an addict with an anger problem that poses a threat to the health of his family and asking for full physical custody. That is huge. Most celebrities would never own up to their shortcomings especially so publicly. Most people with substance abuse and anger issues would not have acted so dignified if they were called to the carpet for their actions. A lot of interventions devolve into name calling, revealing secrets and other tactics to try and hurt the people there. It is extremely sad.
Every parent has done something they are not proud of. He didn’t do lasting, unforgivable damage. No one has claimed this is a regular thing, he just happened to be in public when this occurred an so now he can’t handle this privately. It takes more than one incident in twelve years to diagnose him as having a problem with substance abuse and/or anger management.
“I personally haven’t seen anyone “demonize” him.She is the one portrayed as evil.He is the one who is crying while she is plotting,scheming to destroy him.”
People here definitely have. Yes, your description is how the tabloids have been covering it but the comment sections here tell a whole different story. It is Trumpeter level of support every report or action is a conspiracy against her or proof of her genius, exceptional parenting, ect or just more proof Brad Pitt is the worst, should be prosecuted by the FBI, was never good enough for her, ect.
@Y Collette such a high standards! After read all pro-brad narrative I was start to thinking that behavior is completely normal
holy pupils
Lulz
On a different tangent, I really hate terms like “manny” and “murse”, ugh. Toxic masculinity at its best.
James is supposed to be a really lovely soft spoken guy. I glad she has him in her life. With her mom gone & god knows her father is not the supportive type,she needs that right now.
“The kids call him Uncle James”
Puts on Sherlock hat: Is is because his name is James and he is, in fact, their uncle? But good job trying to put a weird vibe on it reporter person.
I know, I laughed at that line, too. Although I didn’t take it as subtle shade but more just earnest reporting of the painfully obvious.
I know, breaking news, kids call their uncle “uncle”!!! Great journalistic scoop, Us Weekly!
that made me laugh as well.
OMG! They call him uncle James! Unbelievable.
Great job, people mag!
I know. Has to be one of the most stupid lines ever “reported”.
Wow stars are just like us!!! I heard angelina and Brad are referred to by the kids as, “mom & dad” too. 😂😂😂
‘They call him ‘Uncle James’- he IS their uncle.
“The kids call him Uncle James…’
Fascinating. US Weekly’s ‘source’ is really bringing the good stuff today.
Can we conclude that they referred to him as Mr Haven prior to him becoming their temporary manny?
Master Haven, actually.
Or just ‘Sir’, maybe?
He looks a creepy lot like Yoanna from America’s Next Top Model C2.
He has those same crazy eyes that Burke Ramsey had on Dr. Phil!
Only for the paparazzi pics of the last year, Uncle James was more in touch with kids that dad. Brad with his trips alone for a few days to croatia, france, etc. meanwhile the family was in other place…So not much to say, the marriage was already over and the incident was tha last straw for angelina. JMO.
He looks Like someone surprised him with Botox and Coke
Crazy eyes.
LOL!!!
Why you gotta make me laugh out loud in public like a crazy person
1) When I first heard of this family, but before I really read anything in depth, I was trying to puzzle out why the father was Jon VOIGT, mother was Marchline BERTRAND, son was James HAVEN, and daughter was Angelina JOLIE.
I thought it was the oddest thing, LOL.
2) There’s such a marked similarity to their features. I hope this puts paid to those silly rumours that her lips are surgically enhanced.
3) Did any of the kids get his very deep double dimples??
I had only read that she had her nose done. Anyone saying her lips were fake isn’t too bright. You can look at old photos and see her lips were always like that. And yes, his are the same.
Yes, Knox has his dimples. Actually, I think Knox looks a lot like Angelina’s and James’ mother, especially when he smiles!
Voight was their official last name. Angelina legally dropped it and Jolie then became her last name. Don’t know whether James followed her actions or not.
Edited for clarification.
James did as well.
In a blatant rejection of their philandering father, both kids dropped the VOIGT surname and went with their middle names.
James Haven Voigt & Angelina Jolie Voigt were their birth names, I believe.
Jolie is her middle name
Haven is his middle name
Their mom gave them middle names that could be used as last names.
As for James he has been traveling with them for at least a year and they still have nannies.I saw with one the kids at a grocery store from pics after the plane incident.I saw another nanny with them at the park.James was there as well.
Just because there Uncle James is spending more time with them doesn’t necessarily mean he is working as a nanny and getting paid to be a nanny.
Interesting that she dropped the name because of his cheating ways……hmmmm. She’ll be down to an initial if she stays on that path.
She dropped the name in early 2000’s so if it had to do with him cheating on her mother she would have done it sonner. She dropped it after their relationship fail apart again when he cried on national television about her being crazy when she was in process of adopting Maddox
I think you’re misunderstanding……Angelina and her brother shunned their father’s surname because they perceived him to have been a bad husband to their mother, and presumably an indifferent father to them.
Your comment suggests that Jon Voigt is continuing to cheat?
@canadianbecks
@caribean
I read it had nothing to do with rejection of their father, initially.
Both their parents were actors, and in anticipation of their kids possibly wanting to be actors or artists themselves, their mother and father have them middle names they could use as last names. Without them having to overcome an association.
It worked to a certain extent, when Angelina first started getting notices (Gia) the late great film critic Pauline Kael who likened her to Brando, was surprised to find out much later that she was Voight’s daughter. This was the age of no social media and no google.
I’ve always wondrred, though. They kept their issues with Voight really quiet initially, as Jolie tried to establish herself professionally. I’d be amazed if that resentment wasn’t present even then, but just not publicly shared.
My favorite part about James Haven is the poster on Dlisted who is called James Haven and tells funny stories about the family, like Brad losing his temper and throwing mashed potatoes at Thanksgiving.
Can you give a searchable point of reference for this, please?
I understand the poster on Dlisted intends it as a humorous impersonation. I do not believe Dolphin7, or anyone else for that matter, believes that poster is actually James Haven.
double comment sorry.
James Haven is the funniest poster on Dlisted. The best part is he/she (pretty sure it’s not the real James Haven) has the name along with the avatar and they speak about themselves in the third person voice. The last thing I saw James write went something like, “James Haven knows all about Brad’s temper! One Thanksgiving Brad threw mashed potatoes at the wall and cranberry sauce landed on top of Grandpa Voight’s head!” And obviously domestic violence is an extremely serious issue and I feel badly for their family. I’m just saying James Haven comments on Dlisted are funny.
I read this story in the DM way back when they first announced their divorce. It must be a slow newsweek when US is recycling old stories!!
Those Voight genes are certainly very strong. Shiloh is 100% Voight. Her similarity to her mother and uncle is uncanny.
I thought that, too, until I saw pictures of Brad at Shiloh’s age. They look like twins!
It’s scary how in this time we demonize people offering no chance of redemption.
I know, right?! It’s crazy how Angelina must always be portrayed as the evil, crazy, vindictive person.
He has those eyes that always look like they’re wide open, like he’s scared. Mine are like that too. There’s a surgery that can fix it. I think Holly Madison had it done.
He’s been helping with the kids before. Read somewhere an old gossip that one of Angie’s kids started calling him daddy because he spend so much time with them. Angie used to have that eyes wide open look too but then she learned to close them a bit to look softer and not so scared/ about to devour you. Or maybe surgery. Who knows. I have those crazy wide eyes too. And now I’m rambling.
Yes, this gossip was from this summer I think that twins started to call him daddy because Brad was seldom around and James filled in the gap.
Please. This is how all these false narratives get perpetuated. Kids all over the globe can distinguish between who their parents are and who their other caretakers/friends/relatives are and don’t start calling the non-parents “mom” or “dad” just because one may spend a big chunk of time with them.
Those kids are what, 7 or 8 years old? I can’t see kids that age calling their uncle “dad”. Toddlers or something maybe, but not kids that age.
This is one of the silliest rumors I have heard lately.LMAO
That story of the younger kids calling their uncle “daddy”, originated from the Daily Fail. Enough said.
I think he’s amazingly good looking when he can control his eyes:
https://i1.wp.com/ph.cdn.photos.upi.com/collection/upi/05491e3145c7bf541cffafd83e8e03d1/Jon-Voight-and-James-Haven-attend-the-Salt-premiere-in-Los-Angeles_12.jpg
+1 🙂
I thought Brad’s visit was to be supervised by the therapist, with continuing supervision at the therapist’s discretion.
Angelina and James have always seemed like they have a great, supportive sibling relationship and he comes across like a great guy. I’ve always wondered if having such an a-hole for a father and a fragile mother really bonded them together.
“The kids call him ‘Uncle James.’” Well, duh,
At this point I assume that brad never will take publicly the responsabilty for the plane altercation (with a statement, interview or whatever) . Right?
To next ‘poor brad’ coments:
His people initially admitted
– He was drunk
– To going ‘nose to nose’ with his 14 year old. he didn’t strike Maddox “in the face”
– He was raging enough to do damage to the plane
Er, the last one is definitely a lie.
There’s an interview from the owner of the refueling station, who was actually driving the fuel truck on the tarmac for their jet/plane…..he says absolutely nothing happened, because if anything like that had been reported had happened, then he would’ve called the police.
Of course, the article also reeks of damage control, because obviously if people think that they can’t get privacy with his company…..they’re going to spends thousands of dollars elsewhere.
If is involved a really big celebrity, full of resources, they call the police? I have serious doubts
By that same token, you can say that they would never call DCFS on a big celebrity……yet that is clearly not the case here.
Anyway, here is the article…..
http://www.ifallsjournal.com/news/local/officials-pitt-stories-not-true/article_89d83f34-86b0-5117-8fac-4dec53b57adf.html
Maybe because the significant incident was inside the plane (a witnesses on board did the call) and the brad erratic behavior out the plane not involved in a direct way to a kid, only he embarrassed himself. So people look the other way and don’t report.
The article mostly addresses the story Brad Pitt tried to drive off in the fuel truck. The guy who owns the business says that did not happen and if it had he would have called the police. He does not make mention of what happened inside the plane with the children other than to say everything looked fine in terms of what he saw.
Marty Feldman’s love child.
I am so glad for her that she has someone to rely on in her time of greatest need.
Now, it is time for the people who profess to care so much about Mr. Pitt to get him the right help.
i think he’s good-looking. i always like seeing pics of them together because they look so much alike and it’s sort of fascinating to see “male” and “female” sets of those same features. also, he seems like a laid-back nice guy and shoot, she needs one in her corner.
Some people have eyes that naturally show the top part of the white when they are in a relaxed mode. I have a good friend who is the same, and honestly, after awhile you don’t notice it. She isn’t ‘crazy’ or high on anything.
I think he and Angelina look so alike it is spooky. The nose, lips, eyebrows, face shape – wow. I am glad he is there for her. I can’t imagine how much work 6 kids are!