Last week, we learned that the Duke of York has apparently asked his mother, the Queen, to ensure that his daughters’ husbands will receive earldoms. Andrew’s concern is that Princess Eugenie and Princess Beatrice will marry mere commoners, and then blood-princesses will give birth to commoner babies and no one will have to bow or curtsy to his grandchildren. Or something. On some level, I do think it’s sort of nice that Andrew looks out for his daughters so much and it says something nice about his relationships with his girls. On another level, I do think it’s idiotic that we’re still talking about titles, earldoms and commoners in 2016.
Anyway, once the Daily Mail broke the news of the much-desired earldoms, other royal reporters began piling on. The Daily Express wrote a particularly bitchy piece about how Andrew just can’t stand the idea of titleless grandchildren, and that he simply wants earldoms so his grandkids will have the titles of “Honourable” and “Lady.” The Express also noted that Andrew seems so hellbent on getting his daughters to be “working royals,” despite the fact that he himself is rather workshy, only clocking in a few events a month on average. At the end of the article, the Express notes that Andrew’s full-time job these days seems to be “labour[ing] tirelessly to maintain his daughters’ social status.” Well, long story short, Andrew knows you were snickering about him and his daughters. So he released a statement which is already being called “extraordinary.” This is what he released on Twitter:
“There is no truth to the story that there could be a split between The Prince of Wales and I over my daughters’ participation as Members of the Royal Family and any continued speculation is pointless. As a father, my wish for my daughters is for them is to be modern working young women, who happen to be members of the Royal Family, and I am delighted to see them building their careers. When they do support the Royal Family in its work this is very much appreciated by my Family and most importantly by those organizations and to those for whom their participation makes such a difference to their lives.”
[From The Duke of York’s Twitter]
“Modern working young women” and “building their careers.” Hm. Does this mean Andrew has made peace with the idea that Eugenie and Beatrice are never going to have the status of William and Harry’s wives? Is it shade directed at the Duchess of Cambridge, who has never and will never be described as a “modern working woman”? I don’t know. I tended to believe all of the stories about Andrew advocating on behalf of his daughters, just as I believed that Charles is trying to cut the girls out of public life. My guess is that at the end of the day, Beatrice and Eugenie’s husbands will be offered earldoms or some kind of title, but the trade-off is that Charles will never authorize the girls to have royal protection officers again, nor will they be “full-time royals.”
Photos courtesy of WENN.
They could be lovely, kind girls, but whenever I see them together in their ridiculous hats and clothes, I always think of the stepsisters in Cinderella. The Disney move and the ballet. This fits that image perfectly.
This plus 100 . . . their dreadful clothes always have a peculiar ability to trumpet that they are completely out of touch with reality because they have never had to confront it – even in a mirror. Beatrice, in particular, seems to have spent half of her adult life on vacation or going to celebrity and royal weddings.
These stories just make me angry that in times when people are living under so many awful conditions, and in his own country, this is still what concerns and preoccupies him.
Go away all of them. Please.
Such a waste of money, this whole institution.
This so much oh this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Beatrice should have been struck from the line of succession just for the hat she wore to Wm. and Kate’s wedding.
She sold that hat for charity. It raised £81K for Unicef and Children in Crisis.
@LAK – she sold the hat for charity after being made a worldwide laughingstock for having left the house in it. It’s nice that she did something useful with it but if the hat hadn’t come in for so much ridicule, she wouldn’t have sold it.
She trusted the royal milliner to make something. He made something inspired by the lattice design on her coat, wore it, and the world attacked her for it.
Better she wear it then do what Carole did, bullying the designer, dumping her last minute so the designer lost face and thousands. Then she showed up in an outfit designed by the house that Diana made famous, in something that Diana would have worn.
Between the two, I’m going with Carole being the tacky and ridiculous one.
Seeitasitis: You are being absurd.
For Andrew to come out swinging like this is unprecedented and means a nerve has been hit. Saying that his daughters have always got a rough ride with the UK press, often used as the whipping posts for their parents. I have met them and they are both very nice and down to earth, considering their car crash parents they are both well adjusted and ‘normal’ girls.
I say give them a working role within the family, they would do a far better job of it then the heir’s heir and his vapid wife but I guess thats part of Chucks problem, they would make his eldest son look even worse.
Digital, I agree with you and think Chuck is between a rock and a hard place. I think he’s thinking his streamlining plans make the Royal family seem efficient and aware of the awful, out-of-touch optics but, since the Doolittles look extremely reluctant to pull their weight, he won’t have enough “working Royals” to do the work expected of them. Either way, Chuck is signing the Monarchy’s own death warrant IMO as it’s becoming more and more apparent their value for money is becoming less and less even if Beatrice and Eugenie were included as working Royals.
@Digital – you forget that what Andrew wants is for the UK taxpayer to add those girls’ “working roles”, which simply amount to patronage, to said taxpayers’ Sovereign Grant bill. The public has already paid out heavily to renovate Kensington Palace, and is on the hook now for Buckingham Palace. The family is hugely rich – their grannie is worth close to one billion+. The truth is, the whole system is problematic, and is coming under increasing pressure to show value for money. Nobody really cares about these two, and Andrew is trying to shoehorn them onto the royal gravy train. Patronage is a lot easier than being a doctor, teacher, lawyer, etc. The girls have large inheritances. They shouldn’t get a penny of taxpayer money. They can do what Pippa Middleton is doing: find themselves nice rich husbands and settle down into their bubble of unearned wealth and privilege. Times have changed. It’s enough already.
The man puts out a statement, authorised by BP no less, denying that allegation of ‘working roles in the firm’ and telling you it’s a made up story and you insist it is true!!!!
Talk about a rock and a hard place!!!
It’s a post fact world, LAK. Just like Harry and Meghan aren’t dating despite the KP statement.
@LAK – tbh, if Prince Andrew told me it was raining out, I wouldn’t pull the umbrella out until I’d opened the front door and checked for myself. I can see that you are just devoted to the Royal Family and that is your privilege. I do not share your admiration and I consider Andrew to be sleazy, spoilt, dishonest, and he and his family have no business getting a penny from taxpayers.
Sillies – they just want their inheritances to last forever…
I don’t have to admire the family to aquaint myself with facts unlike you who prefers fabrications.
Oh, Andy, just because the president of the US uses Twitter as his bully pulpit doesn’t mean you have to. But you are a father defending your offspring, so I get it. It will probably be just about as effective as Harry’s official romantic press release, but whatever.
The York girls are by all accounts sweet people – I have never heard any gossip that suggests otherwise. Unfortunately they, like all the young Windsors, are abysmal at PR so they have come across in public as airhead layabouts. Beatrice much more than Eugenie.
If they want public roles, he best thing for them would be to drop any pretense of “full time working royal” and instead work at jobs for a couple of years while continuing to consistently support a few worthy causes. Vacation discreetly. Show up smiling and cheerful at family gatherings (which they do already, that is their strong suit.) Hire a good PR person to generate some decent press.
Or else take a page from Sarah Chatto’s book and just retire quietly into private life.
Sadly, unless they disappear completely, their ‘vacations’ will always be in the spotlight. Then where will the royal soap opera be? Every good soap needs a villan or 2. Andrew and his family are it. Deserved or not.
And the media will lie if required to create the desired effect. We saw it with Fergie vs Diana. We are seeing it with the Yorkies.
Take Beatrice’s infamous ‘vacations’. They included weekend weddings, a funeral, a couple of visits to Balmoral, an official engagement, a couple of weekend visits to see NYC based sister, and other legit ( 2wk holiday with boyfriend to St Barts – christmas, and to St Tropez- summer) holidays taken annually for 6-7 years without media comment. Not to mention weekend visits to the newly acquired family ski chalet.
For some reason, the DM decided to spotlight Beatrice’s foreign travel (or is it exits from London since they included Balmoral) and call all of it ‘holiday’, but in as click bait a manner as to make it seem that she is permanently on holiday.
They tried to do the same thing to Eugenie, but it’s hard to accuse someone of holidaying when they are in NYC and or seen going to work every single day of the week in NYC and in London. They’ve settled for building up an image of Eugenie as a party animal. Every week, she’s being papped out with friends and presented as E the party animal. I guess she should stay indoors and never enjoy the city she lives in.
Or make like the Cambridges and move to a country bolthole only to be seen at engagements whilst suing anyone who dares take a picture of you in public spaces.
Perception is reality, and the perception is that the Yorks – Beatrice especially – do nothing but vacation. She needs a good PR person. Jason need not apply. Who reahabbed Camilla’s image? Get them onboard.
Absolutely, Suze.
As recently as friday, the Yorkies had their first engagement as joint patrons of the teenage cancer trust, a charity they have been working with since they were teens.
I think only the guardian covered it, but as part of a longer article discussing Andrew’s letter and Fergie’s plea.
https://www.teenagecancertrust.org/about-us/news/sarah-duchess-york-hrh-princess-beatrice-and-hrh-princess-eugenie-pay-festive-visit
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/dec/09/stop-bullying-our-family-duchess-of-york-urges-media
As loathsome as Mark Bolland turned out to be, he did a fabulous job at turning around Camilla’s public image. The Yorkies should hire him for a spell.
LAK, the whole family needs Mark Bolland. If anyone can do royal family PR without making it a competition between them he can
As admirable a job that he did for Camilla, Mark Bolland caused major damage to the family and within the family where they stopped trusting Charles’s office for actively and frequently planting negative stories about various family members, his own sons included. And Mark didn’t just plant true stories, he also fabricated stories or exaggerated stories. All to make Charles and Camilla look good.
Not saying the others didn’t misbehave or were saintly, but the seeds of all their poor images were planted by Mark Bolland.
The most despicable thing was to throw teen Harry under the bus in a story designed to make Charles look like the concerned father. These was the infamous Harry the teen tearaway helped by concerned Charles stories.
It’s one of the reasons William doesn’t trust Charles.
You should watch the doc ‘reinventing the royals’ that talks about Mwrk’s destructive effect on the royal family’s relations. Editors and former royal household employees talk. Including the private secretary who had to resign as a direct consequence of one of Mark’s leaks.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ER-wEpFitvo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-WIqvb4IfkA
It says something that Charles tried to get this documentary banned.
Yorkies was pretty funny. Don’t know if it’s new, but I’ve never heard it. I almost choked on my Cheerios.
They do need someone to bring them together. Unless Andrew or Harry are planning to go to war for the throne this infighting is ridiculous. What are they fighting for?
They are fighting for blue blood, (the corporations that support them) – It’s Always about money…the royals symbolize acquiring power( money), thru any means. ANY means!
This means different things, in different centuries – but aren’t we all afraid of the powerful?
Truth is, they are ruthless.
The Yorkies’ public image has been so thoroughly trashed by the media ( since they were teens btw) that even with this letter, people continue to side eye and grumble about them.
Somewhere in all their shenanigans, Andrew and Fergie managed to produce decent humans by any standards, but the media won’t let the public decide for themselves and has crafted a negative image which in turn has made the public primed for all negative stories as truth AND skeptical about any good deeds.
And the media stories about them are not just mockery, they are downright abusive and cruel that would not be tolerated if it were written about any person(s).
So they are decent human beings! They are rich privileged decent human beings. Neither has ever had to wonder where the rent, clothes, food, petrol, etc., is going to come from. It’s as if no one expects anything more from the royals – such as, for instance, realising that in a time of rising inequality in a country with large swaths of poverty whose NHS is crumbling, insisting that two girls get added to the Sovereign Grant so they too can get perks and privileges for smiling, waving, showing up a charity galas, etc., is a really stupid idea.
And if the media trashed Andy and Fergie, the two managed to give them plenty of material to do so – it isn’t as if the media made it up out of whole cloth.
I know lots of decent human beings. That doesn’t mean they are entitled to extraordinary perks paid for the by the UK taxpayer.
> I know lots of decent human beings. That doesn’t mean they are entitled to extraordinary perks paid for the by the UK taxpayer.
Not quite a follow-through to LAK’s arguments. She fairly clearly said that they are two decent human beings who got royally (sic) slagged in the gossip media. Your decent human beings get the same global mistreatment?
Your point about who, if anyone, should be at the feeding trough is fair but frankly, as long as there is one out there, there will be a frenzy about who ought to be there. But to blaspheme people with fabricated accounts of their misdemeanours is egregious – sort of give a dog a bad name and hang him. So, your objection isn’t quite entirely fair because it excuses the rationale that disqualifiers are being trumped up to enable certain people to be removed from certain rolls -> the very definition of blasphemy.
I’m not here to defend the taxpayer angle and that wasn’t my point at all.
What i will defend is their right to be treated as human beings and or be judged for what they have actually done rather than media fabrication. Andrew points out very clearly that all these stories, including the one about them joining the family firm on taxpayer dime, are fabrications by the media, not to mention the sheer absurdity and impossibility of the stories even if he hadn’t issued said denial.
Andrew and Fergie have earned public disdain, the girls have not. My point is about the girls NOT the parents.
Eugenie moved into Kensington Palace. Why did she do that unless she wants to / expects to do royal duties one day? As a matter of fact the taxpayer pays for her Kensington P. appartment already. Prince Andrew gets money from the taxpayer and that is used to pay a small rent on an apartment which would be way more expensive if rented on the free market.
The pic in that article is very useful to give you an idea in what kind of splendor there Royals live.
Kensington Palace:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3749679/Through-KP-keyhole-Eugenie-s-moving-Kensington-Palace-Wills-Harry-Kate-shares-pile-Diana-hated.html
Andrew pays market rent on the flat B and E share in SJP.
He (or E) will pay market rate for her cottage in KP.
All peppercorn rents were stopped in 2010. Everyone, except WHK and some govt employees and Palace staff, who reside at any of the palaces has to pay market rate for their flats.
A discussion is due about what ‘market rate’ looks like for them, but they are not living there rent free.
And if you are going to object to the taxpayer funded security that comes with living at the palace, then you might as well throw in Zara and Peter who live on their mother’s estate with all it’s taxpayer funded security. Ditto the Middletons whose private home has been upgraded with Palace level security measures at taxpayer expense because Kate insists on partially living with them.
@Is_Boston The Yorks have extraordinary privilege, but they are human beings who are entitled to the same respect and courtesy as everyone else. The press has harassed them for decades about their weight, their beauty, their fashion, their careers, their boyfriends, etc.
Just to be completely fair, it should be pointed out that Andrew’s statement referred to the purported request for earldoms :
“It is a complete fabrication to suggest that i have asked for any future husbands of the Princesses to have titles”.
(Complete statement here: http://static.ow.ly/docs/AY_5F3g.pdf).
Good that he put this statement out. And it is shade, major shade to sensible Kate but also normal Bill and hormonal Harry.
There’s a bit of a creepily rushed vibe to all of this – almost as if Andrew wants to lock down all of these requests before the Queen passes away.
Apparently he’s always been Mummy’s favorite, a fact that has never sat well with Charles (understandably).
I noticed that too but I’d include Prince Philip as well. It’s like Andrew thinks his parents would see things his way, unlike Chuck. It sure makes them all seem tone deaf though. SMH
Oh, absolutely! He’s got no chance with Chuck on the throne. If that’s his game, though, he really should’ve started years ago, when the girls were still in their teens.
Couldn’t help noticing “between The Prince of Wales and I” — apparently even the monarch’s son cannot use the Queen’s English correctly.
I had the same thought!
I was about to come here and comment on the pronoun case too.
Totally agree
Andrew is trying to lock down everything he can because all bets are off when Brother Charles ascends the throne. His mother cast a beneficient eye at Andrew all these years no matter what a giant ass he is, and the hourglass is running out of sand.
What was point of this statement? These kinds of stories about the Yorks have been around for years. Fergie also released her own leave B and E alone statement. The Firm is in desperate need of some new PR people
Over the past few weeks, the stories were getting out of hand. The media really whipped themselves into a frenzy over this one. And the public was taking it as fact even though the basis of the stories was absurd even for Andrew. The resulting comments were extreme.
The amazing thing was that only a fortnight ago, the DM had been made to apologise for an article mocking Beatrice. And then turned around and posted these click baity articles involving Beatrice and Andrew that were not true.
If suing the DM can’t stop the articles, perhaps a public statement will?
Or Perhaps this was the straw that finally broke the camel’s back.
Mind you, Charles used to plant these sorts of stories about his siblings during his project Camilla PB days. It created alot of fiction in the family and has had a long term effect of creating bad public images of them eg when he publicly accused Edward’s tv company of stalking William at St Andrews which was not true, but the public still believe it to be true.
Perhaps Andrew going directly to the public dispels ( hopefully) such shenanigans.
When it comes to favouritism, sibling rivalry and ostrich impressions, the RF are just like the rest of us.
And Yes the do need a new and modern PR.
I don’t think anyone except Andy & the girls pay much attention to Fergie anymore.
Unfortunate titles are not “idiotic ” until people are willing to pay for others meals and that’s what the British people do.
“Between the Prince and ME.” How could a fking royal not have a basic understanding of pronoun case?!
unfortunately his (self-) vaunted royal blood comes with an accompanying royal brain in a family where basic intelligence has never been a defining characteristic.
They traded brains for longevity. I wonder if the trade-off was worth it for them?
On a not fun note, I just spent the last 92 minutes shoveling snow from my driveway. I also live on a corner, so I get to do two sidewalks in front of my home instead of one. Frikken hate winter.
@Lady D – I am in Minnesota so I feel your pain on snow management
Well said and, sadly, true.
….actually andy should also retire from tax funded public life…harrys replacing him…& when charlies grown up she will replace harry…thats how it should be not an ever growing list of tax funded royals….
Question for anyone who knows, did Andrew and Fergie consult the girls before releasing these statements, cos they have completely overshadowed them becoming patrons of the cancer charity
Problem is that neither Beatrie nor Eugenie are known for having a career nor are they particulary devoted to a job. Both of them take too many holidays. Eugenie had the nerve to ask for a holiday after just a few weeks in a new position. Beatrice’s career seems to change direction frequently but never gets any momentum in any direction.
Also there is the problem of corruption: Royals do wield a lot of political influence behind the scenes and their influence is completely unchecked and unbalanced and not transparent in any way.
Both Beatrice and Eugenie tend to live more grand than they can afford out of their own purse. They borrow private jets and private yachts and get free holidays in exotic locations. But in life nothing is for free except death. So what exactly do Beatrice and Eugenie do for those people who offer them these grand holidays? What is the deal? I don’t mean that in any saucy way. But even gaining social status by being acquainted with a Royal can translate into financial profit. Introducing people can translate. Introducing politicians can translate.
For example: Prince Andrew sold the former family home for 15 mio Pounds although it was worth only a fraction of that. The buyer was some asian kazakh oil plutocrat who didn’t get rich in a decent way either. Now what did Prince Andrew do for this person to gain a several-million-pounds profit on his former home? I have no idea.
See here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3603746/The-truth-Andrew-s-15m-house-sale-furore-grows-Prince-s-links-corrupt-Kazakh-regime-expose-new-details-surrounding-mysterious-sale-Prince-s-marital-home-oligarch.html
I have nothing against them but I doubt you would get more royal duties out of them for royal money. Though they would look more interesting and more interested when they did do royal duties. But I am somewhat sceptic about the amount of corruption that would happen.
Your first paragraph……Seriously?! Eugenie has been in continuous employment since she graduated in 2012. She remains employed. Beatrice has held 4 jobs since she graduated in 2011.
In between they have undertaken charity work which goes largely unreported in the media including
1. last friday when they carried out their first engagement as joint patrons of the Teenage Cancer Trust which they have worked with since they were teens.
https://www.teenagecancertrust.org/about-us/news/sarah-duchess-york-hrh-princess-beatrice-and-hrh-princess-eugenie-pay-festive-visit
2. Two months ago Eugenie became an ambassador for the Samaritans’ ‘end modern slavery’ campaign and represented HM at a service commemorating William Wilberforce, the man who campaigned against the slave trade,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3835165/Princess-Eugenie-joins-Theresa-commemorate-abolitionist-William-Wilberforce-Westminster-Abbey-service-highlighting-Britain-s-fight-against-modern-slavery.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3847634/Princess-Eugenie-releases-emotional-video-Salvation-Army-joins-campaign-against-modern-slavery-reveals-left-astonished-visiting-safehouse.html
3. meanwhile Beatrice helped raise £1M for her dyslexia causes swiftly followed by a trip to Nepal to highlight the work of a charity that helps provide eye surgery in that country
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3815341/Princess-Beatrice-royal-complete-triathlon-does-raise-awareness-children-dyslexia-like-her.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3818405/Princess-Beatrice-visits-eye-hospital-Nepal.html
Further, on the subject of Eugenie’s holiday at her new job, most private companies in the UK have different holidaying policies as far as earning the right to take them. Often, if informed straight away, they do allow holidays from the start.
Not to mention her commitment to family events eg Trooping the Colour for which she has to take time off. Any company hiring her ( and Beatrice) would factor in that requirement.
And those so-called holidays are not all holidays unless you count every single wedding, funeral, engagement, charity do, visits with your relatives as holidays. Whether you spend a day or a fortnight on each event!!!
LAK sweetie – sometimes people refuse to believe the facts, even when confirmed from the person it concerns 🙁 Esp with the York Princesses as the press have done quite the hatched job on them. They like Harry and other BRF members do a LOT for their causes but because its not front page news they don’t believe it happened.
Also, non Brits should be aware that in the UK 20/25 days holiday a year is the norm, it often increases the longer you are at a company – i knew someone who had earned about 6 wks holiday a year in their company, granted they had been there about 15yrs.
LAK & Digital,
No doubt the UK – and nearly every other developed nation – has more generous vacation policies than the U.S., but even in the U.S. employers are generally understanding about pre-planned holidays if discussed during the hiring process.
But honestly I don’t know how I would behave in a job if money were no concern. As it is I often don’t use the vacation time I have because I worry about job security. Must be a whole different experience for someone who doesn’t need the paycheck and health benefits.
https://school21.org.uk/news-events/news/school-21-receives-royal-visit
Digital/Betti: Beatrice and Holly Branson are plugging away in the background for their Big Change charity, but they rarely get publicity except the one time they involved Harry and it turned into the Harry +Cressida in public show. Everyone assumed it was Harry’s charity because that was the only part of the event was reported on.
Bettyrose: i hear you. Though to be fair, healthcare is free so that isn’t a consideration for anyone.
LAK -have you considered applying for a PR job with the Yorks?
LAK doesn’t need to apply to be a spin doctor, because what she is sharing is facts not spin.
Andrew is corrupt as all get out. That has been WELL documented. And so is Fergie (see: that cringeworthy video of her offering to sell influence to Andrew because she doesn’t have a “pot to piss in”–her words).
Given who Eugenie and Beatrice party with I wouldn’t be surprised if they like the same types of people their parents do. In that light it seems prudent for Charles to limit the royal perks of the York family in future decades, even if Eugenie and Beatrice are nice people who would much rather spend their time being princesses doing good works and attending official events than holding down jobs.
Are we really gonna judge them on the sins of their parents? Just because their parents are like that, doesn’t mean they are. Charles and Diana are/were workers bees with a great work ethic. By your logic, William and Harry should be the same, but they’re not. Ka and Pa Middleton have a certain kind of hustle, their offsprings, not so much.
I personally never believed the rift Its was a click and bait to me obviously. The press always loves to put royals against each other, and people buy it, and still do apparently. The time I’ve written to their office, they said that the York Princess were not working royals but, do things on their own Private time. So, I have always doubted that PA wanting more bit. The Yorks know and understand their position better than anyone.
With that said, I like B and E they do much more admirable charity work with out any attention or recognition, they’re ok in my book. People who meet them are always surprised how polite and lovely they are.
I think the York gals like their position now the occasionally represent the monarchy yet get to have there own life..
@Lak, tough day at Celebitchy I see. You just cant knock some sense into some people, they believe what they want.
I think PA’s tweet was the equivalent of a letter to the editor. B & E seem to be decent women negotiating their path in life as best they can. Both have shown more gumption & work ethic than W & K. And on a more superficial note, I enjoy their fashion choices, I really do. They’re both much more creative than Waity.
I believe it that he didn’t ask for earldom for his future son-in-laws because the queen usually offers them to the guys that marry blood princesses anyways. But watch when one of them when one of them marries and the queen does what she usually do and offers the groom an earldom everyone is gonna bring up these articles and be like “see! We knew it was true.” 🙄
People are so gung-ho to believe anything bad about B and E.
Was one offered to Mike Tindall?
You would have to ask someone more knowledgeable about that. Maybe Lak or someone can answer cause I’m not sure. But Zara isn’t technically a blood princess. One was offered to her dad though, which he declined.
“clocking in a few events a month on average”? Andrew did 275-300 engagements last year, more than Edward. No where near what Anne puts in, but more than a few a month.
From what i understand, if either of the Yorks married while the Queen is still alive their husbands will be offered an earldom, in line with the other titles offered to mates of the other blood royal princesses during her reign: Margaret, Alexandra of Kent, Anne (only Tony Snowden accepted). They will likely decline the offer since it will likely be viewed as unpopular to accept.
Why the sudden press attack on the Yorks? No fan of Andrew or Fergie, but this recent spate of nonsense is very odd. Andrew is greedy for sure but knows better than to ‘expect’ titles from the monarch for in laws or continue to demand royal roles for his kids. I actually believe his Twitter statement….who’s planting this stuff? and more importantly, why.
And if they accept the offer, media and public will crow,’i told you do!’
I’d say: go to work, enjoy your privilege and status and STFU. They have more privilege then any commoner in the UK anyway.
That is what they do, but the press keeps making up lies about them and whips up the public into a frenzy over these lies.
Here is what I still don’t get: Under Charles’ slimmed down monarchy, wouldn’t harry eventually be phased out? That doesn’t really work. Like you can’t have someone grow up whose job it is to represent the Royal Family, cutting ribbons and attending charity events and then one day phase them out and expect them to get a normal job that doesn’t involve inappropriately utilizing their contacts within the Royal Family.
Also, isn’t that somewhat of a security risk? like if harry is phased out wouldn’t his security detail be limited? If so, couldn’t someone just kidnap him and basically demand whatever they want? This whole thing just seems dumb.
This makes me feel bad for whoever Beatrice and Eugenie will marry.
It is not an easy thing to be offered a title of any sort when you’re a commoner marrying into the RF. You get criticized for it from practically every angle. The aristocrats will think of it as social climbing on some level. Everyone else will criticize the fact that this institution exists at all. And if you accept, god help you. If you accept and you’re Beatrice and Eugenie? God help you all the more. So given that alone, I doubt that their future spouses will accept the offered title. I think the Queen will offer, because she always does, but I don’t think they will accept. So there you go.
As for the question of them being working royals–can’t they come up with some kind of new system to resolve this? Also, has anyone actually *asked* Beatrice and Eugenie what they want to do? I’m sure they will step up and do their jobs as part of the RF if asked to be working royals, but like. I’m sure they have plans for their lives and where they want to see it go as well. And it seems to me like everyone from Andrew to Charles to Kate to the Queen have all had an opinion on this subject, except for B&E themselves.
Beatrice might be fine with being a working royal, Eugenie seems happy to be away from it.
Beatrice (and possible Eugenie) are ultimately limited geographically because they will likely end up as Counsellors of State under either Charles or William. Members include monarch’s spouse, heir, plus the first four people in line over the age of 18. Unless those rules are changed, they are required to live in the UK while serving.
Possibly unpopular opinion? I think Eugenie looks amazing in that red dress; both it and the navy hair-bow bring out the red in her hair beautifully. I also really like Beatrice’s funky patterned coat-dress.