Over the past week, Page Six has run three major stories about Angelina Jolie. The first piece was about how Angelina has been discreetly looking to hire a publicist in the wake of her divorce. That story made it seem like no publicist wanted to work with her because all of Hollywood is Team Brad. The second story was an interview with a Hollywood divorce lawyer saying that Angelina has “used” the UN and her children solely for her image and that she’s to blame for her horrible public relations, because she left Brad. Or something.
Those stories were just leading up to the mother of all diss pieces, published this weekend. I’m not going to do big excerpts from it – you can read the full piece here. The headline? “Angelina may have the kids, but Brad has custody of Hollywood.” The point of the story is that because people clapped for Brad at the Golden Globes, everyone in Hollywood loves him and hates her, and Angelina is super-worried. Everyone in Hollywood also hates Angelina (so says Page Six) because “she had a reputation for stealing other actresses’ boyfriends.” For the love of God. The most interesting part of this story is that her long-time manager – whom she briefly parted with – Geyer Kosinski is back in her inner circle, and that he’s a “controversial figure” for some reason. Page Six summed up their story this way: “It seems Jolie has begun to realize that so much of her star power and goodwill was on loan from Pitt. Without it, her future in Hollywood is uncertain at best, and the damage she has done to her highly crafted image may be irreparable.”
Yes, her reputation is in tatters because she dared to file for divorce from Hollywood’s Golden Boy and now his people are trying to rip her to shreds. That’s the real story. This piece was perfectly timed to combat the happy-family images of Angelina with all of her kids in Cambodia. It’s so obvious.
Photos courtesy of Getty.
Did you save the paper? I need to wrap some fish.
I need to wipe
Birdcage liner
@ Giddy: Please say you don’t have birds cause that paper is not even fit for your birds. LOL!
CAA strikes again
Maybe Brad Pitt could tell Bryan Lourdes and Donald Trump’s pal to lift up their heel from Angelina’s neck.
Or he can say nothing as usual, like he’s done their entire relationship for the last 13 years.
Weak.
I hope Angelina experiences a real man one day.
😂 😂😂…page six is pathetic.
+10000 and mysoginist…she had a reputation for stealing other actresses’ boyfriends.”😒😒😒
I haven’t read the full piece but it sounds like the gist of it is that “Brangelina” was greater than the sum of its two parts. That doesn’t seem that far fetched. I think she definitely became higher profile when she got together with Pitt. Of course it might be a little rocky at first as they reclaim their individual identities apart from the huge “Brangelina” image that defined them for so long.
No, that is not the gist of it. They are essentially saying that Brad upgraded Angelina and that now that they are divorcing she is being revealed as a fake, manipulative liar who does not really care about anything but herself.
The are crediting everything good that she has done to Brad being in her life and at the same time contradicting themselves. They are also leaving out key details that make her seem like she is a man stealer, like mentioning that she met with the King of Cambodia but conveniently leaving out that she met with the King and Queen on the same night at the same time.
The King of Cambodia bit, sorry but that made me laugh. He’s in his mid-fifties, never been married, has no kids and was described by his father as “loving women like sisters”. The wrongly named “Queen” in question is the Queen Mother, his as a matter of fact.
I think half the time, the media are just idiots. Properly, they would have been describing this as the King of Cambodia and the Queen Mother, rather than the King and Queen of Cambodia in the first place. There probably wasn’t ill intent, just poor research.
I agree. They were definitely bigger together, but both their careers will be just fine.
Jolie does need FTKMF to be well received though, as her future as a director isn’t a sure thing after BTS. She can always sign up for some action film to rebound with or focus on her charity work and slip out of the limelight.
Brad is definitely the golden boy, and half the people here that don’t like him now, spent the last decade saying he could do no wrong. The truth is he’s well respected by his peers, produces interesting projects and when the charges were dropped against him, people moved on.
I think they both could have handled things better and not been so public with their mess, but I’m guessing they now realise they’ll get shared custody and will have to get along better for the sake of the kids.
@lilly I couldn’t agree more, and couldn’t have said it better. Call me naive, but I also don’t believe Brad was behind this or any of the other hit pieces about her (the more sympathetic ones about him….? Maybe.). Regardless of their current troubles she is still the mother of their children and I just don’t see him treating her that way out of spite (or any other reason). And I don’t think his silence is “approval”, either. If he did come out and say something that would just keep feeding the monster (i.e. the tabloids & all their b.s.). Not to mention how every word would be dissected & analyzed, looking for hidden meaning. So, basically, damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. I’m a fan of both of them, and I hope when they come out the other side of this (which seems to be getting a little closer) they are bother better & stronger for it. And, of course, I wish the best for their children. They are, after all, the truly innocent ones in all of this.
I’m quoting a song here.
“I’m good all by myself but I’m a force when we’re together. Though I’m good all by myself but baby you…you make me better.”
Both of them had great careers before they got together but I think their union elevated their status. They went from Alist to AList couple. They will both be fine. A lot of celebs careers slow down a bit after they start to get older. Blame that on agiest Hollywood.
I completely agree – they were even bigger together, but they were both quite successful and famous before they ever met. At the moment, he’s having great success with producing, and she’s not so much with directing, but that doesn’t mean she owed all of her star power to him. That’s ridiculous.
I also agree they both could have handled things a little better, and with smcollins that I don’t think he’s behind these stories. The “Brad is sad without his kids” stuff in People, yes, but this, no. This sounds like someone with a grudge who is using a private family situation to trash someone they don’t like.
@smcollins, I agree with you. It seems too despicable and not intelligent to do this if you have many children that you have to parent together. She was interviewed and she was gracious mentioning that they were a family and saying “our” children.
She us (again) being vilified in other outlets, many praising Brad, as in conservatives vs liberals. Maybe page 6 is being paid by conservatives? The owner seems to be some man named Jesse Angelo, is he friends with 45th?
She is an advocate for refugees well-being, and she wrote against the current political environment that us so against fair treatment of refugees. Awful to see.
She is making movies that are independent because that is what interests her. I think Hollywood mainstream is simply a means to an end for her. She will do a Maleficent so that she can make the movies she wants to make. There is a difference and that is that Brad has a very influential, successful production company and therefore holds that clout. People need him. While his production company did produce a couple of her films, she has relationships with successful producers like Spyglass and others, but his production company is gangbusters in Hollywood. As for him speaking out, he puts his foot in his mouth every time and so does not very often. He has always been private and I don’t see that changing without being received as self-serving. People who say he should “vindicate” her, I don’t think she needs “vindication” and if he did speak out he’d have to uncover there whole lives and believe me, she does not want that. She does not want anyone speaking for her, other than herself.
A few things @lilly
Don’t know if ‘half the people here,’ is a scientific study- but it’s kind of ridiculous to suggest that an affable celebrity like Brad Pitt would have been soundly criticized by fans for drink/substance abuse problems the public was not aware of.
Typically how criticism is supposed to work, people do things that are considered bad behavior, and then get criticized.
Why would fans of ‘brangelina,’ have been criticizing Brad before now?
As for your overall gist – I’ve heard from many fans over the years who felt that Brad could have issued stronger support to Angelina when she was attacked in various ways, and was thought by some to be weak. Others even laid blame for his mealy mouthed half stepping support of Angelina (see his weak non commital comments about Etheridge disputing his calling Angelina his hero for her medical choices) – like maybe she was the one telling him to not bother.
I don’t really believe that anymore.
Yes to the above comment; however, I believe it was she who made things so messy and public for Brad and the kids, and I found that to be so unnecessary. This could have been handled quietly in light of the fact they are both actors and public celebrities. I’ve always liked Brad, not so much Angie, though. Sadly, I do think she uses her ‘brood’ and her worldly causes to bring attention to herself. It’s well known that her peers are not her friends either….
Kosmos, I agree with you, I think she is very well aware of the backlash and is in damage control mode. I quite liked her in her recent interview, but throughout the years I’ve often found her insufferable. I don’t get the need to look down on Hollywood and act as if you’re somehow miles better than anyone else. Yes, it is superficial in many ways but it is also much more than that and I think that she should in general adopt a more gracious attitude and realize that much has been given to her for free. I am willing to change my mind about her, live and learn after all, but the pretentious yuck has got to go.
Their brand together undeniably helped their individual brands and theres definitely potential for a think piece or ten there on the future of couple branding or whether each can ever really recover from the brand implosion or even just a story on how it affects their individual industry relationships. But this article just isnt that piece.
I’m fairly indifferent to Angelina on most days and on some days just really dont see the hype with her but Page Six is kind of mean spirited and gossipy here. The real story for me is who she pissed off that they are coming for her so blatantly. ( I dont think this is Brad. If it were, the attack would be spread out in different outlets. Someone other than Brad has a grievance with her, perhaps the Page Six editorial staff.)
Edit: ok, just read some of the other comments and yes, I can buy the theory that its coming from a Trump insider. That would explain why its showing up in a NY paper.
@ …John Voight is a Trump supporter.
I’m wondering if Scott Rudin doesn’t have an “in” at Page Six, personally. This is a very “Hollywood personal” story by someone. Makes more sense to me than some random Trump supporter.
I don’t think it’s Brad either. Kaiser seems to be pretty convinced that he’s behind it. I’m curious if there’s actual evidence of this or just assumption?
Of course she and he became high profile when they got together. They got together after he divorced his wife and a cheating scandal. AND there was the fact that both were rich gorgeous and famous in their own right. That made for even more ink. IMO, I think they are just trying to sell papers and are testing to see where people stand. If this doesn’t pan out, they’ll probably switch to bashing Brad.
on the topic of inks, now i wonder what’s going to happen to their personal inks.
the coordinate of Brad’s birthplace on Angie; Brad’s initial on her inner leg
Angie’s initial on Brad’s arm (the one that goes on a diagram/table thing)
the matching poetry tattoo
if they’re going to laser them? or keep them?
after all the Brad coordinate and the Angie initial are connected to the children.
iirc, Angie started the process quite quickly after her divorce from Billy Boob as soon as the wedding ring came off her finger.
by the way, on Fussyeye’s site there’s a photo of a guestbook Angie signed together with Minister of Environment, she has dropped the “Pitt” on her signature.
From the ‘of course they were bigger together’ camp – that’s kind of a given, also irrelevant and is not what this Page Six trash piece is even about. This piece is an Angelina jolie smear.
As for her/his “ink,” @lowercasedeb i doubt this is much of a concern. They have larger issues on their plate. I personally can see Angelina keeping her coordinates, as Brad still is the father of her children. She doesn’t have his name anywhere on her person. She said long ago she felt getting names was not smart and could be bad luck or lets say worse luck. She has Whiskey Bravo on her leg not just her initials. That’s military jargon and she can choose to think of it as something else now, even William Robert (Billy Bob) lol. Her previous husbands are loyal friends who have her back always.
Brad has a HUGE tat for Angelina’s birthdate in Khmer on his belly. It will be a bish getting that thing lasered off.
However, I don’t think it’s priority for either of them to worry about right now.
I’m interested in delorb’s comments. I don’t ever recall any thing or anyone going after Brad, even after the end of his marriage to Aniston. It was again all on Angelina as a home wrecker. Do you happen to recall of any one or thing attacking Brad? Just for my own information. Thanks.
I have seen few people more obsessed with their Hollywood image than Brad Pitt.
Only part of his image came from being an A-list movie star, though. The other part — perhaps the larger part — came from constantly being held up in the tabloids as the loving husband of the most beautiful woman in Hollywood and the doting father of six adorable multi-cultural children. Now that that’s been ripped away by his own actions, he must feel his image is greatly diminished. And you can bet the rent who he blames for that.
All Brad has going for him now is his status as Hollywood’s reigning superannuated golden boy, and if he thinks the media trashing Angie will make him look better by comparison, that’s fine with him.
I’m pretty sure that’s the line, Esmom, that’s been around since the first got together. That she made him a bit more interesting and he made her more credible in HW.
He may have “upgraded” her, but wow!!! She looks a thousand times better than she did at the end of her marriage!! I used to think she had an eating disorder, but she looks happy and healthy now. Her face is so much fuller, she looks relaxed, and like she’s not going to snap.
I wonder how much she put up with while married to him. I think she gave him a lot of chances, until he acted up in front of someone who reported him. I think that’s why she looked so unhealthy.
Good for her!
But look now no one care or talking about this story major missed from page six.
Someone is sure feeling insecure about the power of AJ…BUT…. I think this is more John Voight than Brad….JMO.
It could also have something to do with Trump since she came out with that piece in the NYT a few weeks ago. Her father was never this vicious and would only use his interviews to express “fatherly” concern/ bs. I don’t remember him ever attacking her in such a way.
It could also be Brad’s team with his silent approval. We will never know.
@Aiobhan Targaryen…Voight hates her. People underestimate the depth of this man’s maliciousness to Angie and her mother.His narrative for years has been that she is unstable, and erratic in an attempt to keep her down. He is insanely jealous of her and thus tries to insert himself into her life. He is a master manipulator/tabloid feeder of misinformation. Brad is no saint, but this article is beyond malicious. This is someone who wants to tear this woman down and leave no possibility of a comeback. Fortunately, no sane person believes this sh#t. VOIGHT IS A TRUMP SUPPORTER.
Nah, I don’t think it is Voight. The man might be crazy but he loves his grandchildren.
The man who publicly tried to submarine the adoption of her first child? Ennie, you don’t know that he loves his grandkids or not. He has always been happy to attack his daughter publicly, using the kids as pawns.
I can see the logic of this coming from a Drumpf supporter, Voight or otherwise.
That is a good thought Aiobhan. Perhaps because Pitt is silent, to the majority it means he does approve of all the vile, evil things being written about the woman he deemed to call “the love of his life”.
Jon Voight might say a lot of silly things, to put it kindly, but he’s old school. If he wanted to say something about Angelina, trust me he would say it on the record and not off. He’s done it before. And he actually doesn’t hate her at all, he just doesn’t understand why SHE hates HIM (he’s clueless), so he just decides to label her as unstable. Which she probably is, a little, but I’m sure she has more than enough reason to dislike her father.
….he just doesn’t understand why SHE hates HIM….
I don’t think he thinks she hates him. More like he knows what behavior of his she doesn’t like and/or won’t tolerate. I think they have reconciled their differences and I know through quotes of his of late that he admires her and is impressed with how far she has come in life.
I agree it’s not Jon Voight and I don’t think it’s BP either. I think BP, 1/, has some respect for her as the mother of his children and wouldn’t actively do something like that, as he said he wouldn’t from the start (but perhaps in retaliation). 2/ He knows he’s already won the PR war. I think it’s just journalists and gossip rags who are looking for more clicks and who never liked her from the start. They feel like they have to enlighten the public of AJ’s so-called PR machinations.
@Ana
“which she probably is, a little.” (unstable) – sez @Ana
Nice sneaky backhand to humanitarian Oscar winning mom Angelina who is raising her kids alone temporarily because her husband is the unstable one (for now). Lol almost missed that.
Sheesh the women here on these boards must be ‘female first’ fans (daily mail Angelina hater site).
That said- what weird conjecture to have 80yo Jon Voight behind the Angelina Page Six smears.
I think he’s a misogynistic idiot who will always rank his daughter behind the important men he knows in the industry, including the orange pervert loon clown king. But would he deliberately plant an item in a newspaper that his friend Trump holds sway over? Why? Because of what?
Angelina and her father have at least been civil and cordial with him having access to his grandkids and her on occasion for the last 5-7 years. He’s said nothing but glowing things about her and expressed pride in her accomplishments and for the most part kept his lip buttoned about things that aren’t his business to discuss.
So it’s strange indeed to see this conspiracy theory that her own father is the culprit behind page six. He doesn’t hold that kind of sway and though i think he’s terrible and a misogynist who doesn’t respect women at his core i don’t think he’s terrible enough for that.
Who is?
Trump and his minions upset at her op-ed re refugees. Or, CAA an agency w/ vindictive flacks who’ve been out to destroy her for 12 years.
I don’t agree that Pitt is directly behind this bs, i do agree he could shut it down in a blink considering that’s his children’s mother. Considering this is at least the 3rd or 4th hit on Angelina and he’s said/done nada. It just speaks to his character as a man IMO
@almondmilk why do you see being a little unstable as a) “a sneaky backhand” to a humanitarian Oscar winning mom (as if that instantly makes you mentally healthy); b) an insinuation that it’s the man who’s stable and c) and anti-female comment?
First of all, I don’t think being a little mentally unstable is offensive, perhaps you have a problem against mentally/emotionally ill people, but I don’t. Angelina has talked several time about her issues, which have included depression, eating disorders and others. Have you forgotten how she used to have an obsession with knives or carried the blood of her spouse around her neck? She’s not always stable and she’s said so herself. Doesn’t mean she’s crazy, or she’s bad, or Brad Pitt is the victim, or Jon Voight is the victim. Her father has been unkind to her when referring to her mental problems in the past, and you’re doing the same thing by assuming that being a little unstable is a negative thing.
Yeah, Brad Pitt is totally blameless in all of these stories!!!!!!!!!!
The man that has Hollywood (while Angie only has the kids) at his feet, has absolutely zero to do with this absolute shit!
Talk about hypocrisy!
This is why Brad wanted those records sealed, so he could trash her in peace without worrying that any of the shit he did would come out.
Why would he need to sink so low? To the place that claimed he slept with Russian hookers?
Was he with Trump?????
Well we saw this coming,
Meanwhile brad is still chasing his acting oscar, maybe now that he has the hollywood sympathy that once was borrowed to angelina , he will receive it.
The fact that they are boasting that having a great career is better than messing up your kids to the point of having only supervised visit once week and losing their custody , I CANNOT .
Pitt ‘ s movie made the studio lose 80-100 millions , his follow up franchise WWZ was cancelled and his right hand at paramount was fired but let s speak about angelina lmao
Brad and his career with his company Plan B/movies like Moonlight etc. are doing fine.
Just like Angelina’s career will be fine.
I am not saying his career is in toilet but tried to build this as life after their split but only talked about angelina.
If they wanted to look at negativity then just take a look at brad ‘s career now , it is not the end but it doesnt look that great.
And moonlight was abproject during their wedding and was out for months but the article looks at marriage post mortem
They still will be both fine – I mean they are Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. It’s not like they have to beg for film roles like other people *cough* Aniston *cough*
He is an executive producer of moonlight, he is never hands on and takes a producer role he leaves it others but gets the credit. All his moves are overrated.
He is chosen by media as the golden boy and will always be protected image and movies will always get good ratings.
The media built his image as beautiful, perfect and he can never, never grow old for the public.
@bap:
I have read your comments – you like Jolie and hate Pitt, so there’s no point in having a conversation with you.
He’s an executive producer on moonlight. Nothing more. The cast talked about meeting him at some screening for the first time. Same with the pattinson movie. The actress ( forgot her name) said she met Brad once or twice. He was onset for less than 5 days on the one he won an Oscar for. LOL this time he won’t get an Oscar if moonlight wins cause as I said – executive producer.
When Brad is left to produce on his own stuff like what happened on the set of wwz happens. Loss of millions and real guns on set. LoL
He’s riding the coattails of the real producers. Dede and Jeremy.
The exaggeration is amazing!!!
I cannot stand the woman and don’t buy her saintly act but this page six story is utter bullcrap. If anyone in that relationship was thirsty, it’s Brad – he always hitches his junk to the latest rising star which, in 2005, was Jolie. I can’t believe I’m defending her but there it is.
It’s going to be fun to watch Brad morph into his next personality-based on who he dates. Remember when he was slick Hollywood guy with Gwyn? And grungy-edgy with Juliette? Guy next door with Jen?
Any bets on his next move? I predict hipster. He’s never on top of trends, usually behind them.
Yes – he does this sooo obviously – remember when he and Gwyn actually had the same hairstyle and looked alike?!
@Adele Dazeem I glad someone understands that he morphs into whoever he with. When Angelina making her War movie Unbroken, he needed to so fury. In WWZ zombie movie he played a UN worker trying to be a hero, probably wishing he was like Angelina a real UN worker.
I noticed that too. Even when he was 27 and dating 17 year old (cough, cough) Juliette Lewis, he seemed to imitate her style.
I was thinking Scarlet Johansan. Her star power is definitely up there.
Onika and Adele, you have it exactly right on BP hitching his ride on the latest up and coming star.
I always viewed their star power as equal so this is BS. But she should stay quiet and just live her life with her children to the fullest. Time reveals all truths eventually and let’s face it, Hollywood hates powerful women who don’t have to kiss butt.
I do believe Hollywood doesn’t really like her. Never has. Hollywood acknowledged her as Pitt’s partner/wife, but the powerful people never really liked her, because she doesn’t care too much about Hollywood. And I think it all comes down to Hollywood taking itself very seriously and Angelina seems to have a “Bitch, please” kind of attitude when it comes to that.
I asked this question on the other Angelina thread. Is Page Six published by a pro Trump newspaper? If so, do you think these negative articles are payback for the OpEd she wrote on the immigration ban?
When I googled page six, (wikipedia) it said that the NY post publishes it, that the scope of the paper is conservative- populist and that the owner is Jesse Angelo. I’d think they lean pro trump, and this is a hit piece. It is in the level of awfulness as it hapenned to the Venezuelan/ American Alicia Machado, the only thing missing is an attack on her looks.
maybe someone more knowledgeabke can tell us more.
Of course. Just like the National Enquirer. Page Six has had a thing for Angelina for years but truth be told Angelina was a success long before Brad. Brad always thinks Hollywood first.
The NYPost is a horrible, terrible NYC tabloid that is VERY VERY conservative. The NY Daily News is liberal and has all of the hysterical headlines!!
She looks better than ever, Like healther than in years.
That is what I thought! And she doesn’t look overly tweaked or frozen.
She is starting to look a lot like Geena Davis in some of these photos – no?
I thought I was the only one who noticed!! Her face is much fuller, looks like she gained some much-needed weight, and looks happy and less stressed.
That would be both of them, Pitt and Jolie, who look much better than before. Divorce can be a good thing!
Eh, I find these stories are doing more to hurt Brad Pitt than Angelina, because they make him look like an asshat who is smearing his ex.
She, on the other hand, doesn’t seem that interested in playing the hollywood game for many years now.
She’s reported to be very aware of her image and highly skilled in managing her own PR.
She plays the game. She just plays by different rules.
I bet there is a man behind Page Six decisions.
Whatever. I am not a fan of Jolie and I was on no one side until now. Now I will be on her side as a middle finger to those pathetic people and just because Jolie is a woman and I am sick to see how women are portraied on that toilet paper of a newspaper.
“Angelina may have the kids, but Brad has custody of Hollywood.”
So the “custody” and respect of Hollywood is more important than a happy family life, a healthy peaceful life for the kids is worth nothing in comparison to “winning” in public opinion, the writer of that hit piece doesn’t think much of Pitt either, huh.
I see it this way – the headline was an insult to Brad but the rest was an attack against Angelina.
That headline is so stupid BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW FAMILY IS EVERYTHING. and to think a woman wrote this crap it is very disgusting
Not a defense of page6 — because article is misogynist — but journalists often don´t have control over headlines of their articles. It is usually decided by someone else with algorithm/googlebility in mind.
@ Andrea1: It seems that Pitt wants to be a father only on his terms and only when he wants. I remember in one of his interviews he said he’d be laying on the couch doing nothing, and Angie was busy with the kids, so then he’d get up and do something with them. And no, I don’t happen to think family is everything to him. Just when it’s convenient for and to him.
Yeah that was just such a despicable headline.
Angelina has excess to the highest political figures and Royalty around the world. Some of the media must be worried for Pitt.
Angelina was Knighted DAME COMMADER by the Queen a very high honor. Where’s Pitt’s Knighthood Oh Wait Hollywood.
Well, I mean, her only decent film in recent years was Maleficient. His body of work is better than hers. He’s a better actor and he picks very good films to do. Her Hollywood life is basically over, but she’s fine with that, probably. Brad can have Hollywood and she can take her humanitarian work. I do find it plausible that most of Hollywood is rejecting her because Brad is friends with everyone and was still doing the movie star shmoozing stuff while she essentially rejected that lifestyle first.
He does have a great body of work, no one takes that but to imply she nothing without him is a joke
I’m not saying she’s a joke, just that the article isn’t wrong technically. And I think she’s okay being mostly done with Hollywood because her interests lie elsewhere.
Pitty is overrated the media has built his image. Boring actor.
@ bap: see my comment above. I still think Pitty is just an average actor.
I will agree with you in one thing, Sassback, Pitt’s choices have been better than hers. Contrary to many others here some of her “successes” weren’t movies I was very excited by while some of her “failures” left me encouraged like By The Sea or A Mighty Heart and of course, Girl Interrupted. Movies like Maleficent, Salt and The Changeling were underwhelming to me. In fact if she wasn’t transitioning away from acting I would be recommending that she take a sabbatical from “big screen” acting and recharge her batteries by trying her hand at theater or small-screen gigs on HBO, Netflick etc. Pitt’s batting average of choices on the other hand have usually been pretty good and he has pretty good and strong list of iconic roles behind him.
On the other hand I think producers love it when they can get her on board any projects of theirs; she raises the profile of any project she is associated with; acting or otherwise.
For some reason, I can take Pitt or leave him. He’s a decent actor. I don’t see that much spectacular about his acting. And it certainly doesn’t move me. Even in TYAS, I thought his acting was wooden! And I have to agree. Pitt, for the last couple of Plan B productions, has been executive producer, and the hard work has been done by Dede and Jeremy (if that’s his name).
If Pitt has it going on in Hollyweird why all the attacks by the media on Angelina. If he is that well loved by hollyweird than he and media should move on. Angelina is being attacked and bully by the media and he is not going to defend her ever.
My opinion is he is a whiner and most whiners need support and media is his support.
I do think most of her Hollywood friendships came from Brad. Before him the only close actor friends she seemed to have were her ex’s. Everyone since except Clint Eastwood has been a co-star or collaborator of Brad’s, so yeah, I think that’s very much his crowd.
I also think they massively boosted each other’s profiles. Brad got a bump status wise above Clooney, Depp and Cruise despite not being much of a box office draw, and Angelina got bumped to full blown movie star status despite a lot of dreadful flops between Girl Interrupted and Mr & Mrs Smith. I don’t think it’s out of line to say that being a celebrity couple took both their profiles to new heights.
Girl interrupted and MAMS were flops??
Didn’t she win an oscar for girl interrupted?
@CorneyBlue Amen to your comments!
@L MAMS made over 400 million dollars.
She said ‘between’ as in the films she made in between those two.
Tourist, Salt, Wanted, changeling kun fu Panda series were hits and made money.
BETWEEN Girl Interrupted and MAMS. There definitely were some flops in there, for sure. Pitt had some around that time frame too. MAMS definitely gave both a boost.
She said between. Girl Interrupted and Mr and Mrs Smith were successful, but there were flops in between those two.
Flops? Hmm…Not really. Jolie’s movies average box office is $68,108,628 per film. Pitt’s movies average box office is $64,787,909 per film. He’s been in about 10 more films but he’s older. Both are A-list Hollywood stars. Both have considerable influence within that sphere.
Page Six? Hmm…A section of the NY Post. The NY Post is owned by Murdoch’s News Corp. The Post “loses about $65 million a year”. It’s “rated the least-credible major tabloid/major news outlet in NY”. It’s the “only news outlet to receive more responses calling it not credible than credible”.
Sorry, I find it humorous that anyone thinks Angelina Jolie’s reputation or future opportunities are diminished by this.
Girl Interrupted was nearly two decades ago already. Halle Barry won an Oscar too, and look what she’s doing now. Mrs and Mrs Smith she made with Brad and that was over ten years ago. Her most successful movies she has done lately are Maleficent and those Panda cartoons. Brad’s worst films the last decade were the movie that came out during the Brangelina divorce and By the Sea, which was her undertaking.
At first I thought it must be trumpmedia trying to drag her image down so he can hurt refugees without Lara Croft tomb raider coming after him. But Brad isn’t speaking out against any of these hit pieces, so I guess it’s his people. Too bad. I don’t think that’s going to do any good for his image in the long run, though of course they both have so much starpower that they can split it and still be fine.
Why would he waste his breath? He didn’t speak out against them when they said he slept with Russian hookers and cheated with Marion Cotillard either.
@KB
Why would he speak out? He can’t even speak out when his pal Etheridge called Angelina a coward for her medical decisions, or when his ex’s bestie Handler goes on a 5 year tour calling Angelina a C u next Tuesday.
Besides, some might say that a soon to be single 55yr old isn’t phased by an untrue piece claiming he sleeps with escorts or French actresses.
In the misogynistic culture we live in, those Page Six stories about Brad’s made up infidelities were also designed to trash Angelina NOT Brad.
The reaction at the time was not people maligning Brad for being once a cheater always a cheater (had they been true) in fact it was droves of bitter Betties rejoicing that beautiful Angelina their imagined arch nemesis had been ‘Annistoned’ by Pitt and had gotten her just desserts, remember?
Responding to any of this garbage or the garbage you mentioned is beneath him. A-List stars don’t need to respond to that nonsense because in doing so, it legitimizes it. I suspect Angelina would prefer he NOT respond to it. Ever heard of the Streisand Effect?
Are we seriously expected to hold it against her that she doesn’t hang out with Hollywood people? So what? If she wants to be friends with humanitarians or whatever that’s her preogrative. Maybe those are the people she finds interesting?
Also the whole she stole billy bob and brad is so misogynistic and also from what I have read a huge double standard as Anniston got involved with Justin when he was with his long term live in gf.
Also it’s worth noting that jolie apparently is friends with her exes unlike brad. So it seems to me it’s him that doesn’t do amicable break ups.
@Hannah – that’s a really good point re the exes…
Dragging out the well-beaten horse to second your point, Hannah. Bruce Dern, Laura Dern’s father, admitted that LD lied about that situation. She and BBT had already broken up, LD admitted it later. Laura Dern was pregnant by (married) Ben Harper a couple years later.
Brad Pitt wishes she could have half the fame and respect Angelina Jolie has.
her face…it looks different………
You are not the only one who says that.
People on the Internet mentioned Botox and fillers.
She looks like she may have ingested food for a change.
If they can make me look a third of how pretty she looks, I’d consider them.
She gained some weight and her face filled out. She looks good. In fact, I’d say she looks better than he does. She looks at peace with herself. I somehow don’t get that vibe from him.
So I guess her Oscar win in 2000 was down to him too, huh, who knew?! … He’s that benevolent that four years before they started dating he made that possible for her with all those oodles of good will of his which were just lounging around trying to find some poor actress to bestow themselves upon?
*excuse me while I wipe the rest of my sarcasm up.
👍🏼 +10000
Brad has custody of Hollywood and Angie has custody of the kids. And we are supposed to envy him for that?
Isn’t Page Six basically commandered by that Cindy Adams person? I stopped reading her vitriol years ago.
SOOOOOoooOOOoOooO petty I could practically write a Taylor Swift song with it. Damn, William.
I’ve never liked Angelina much, but these last pieces are so disgusting. And those headlines “Brad Pitt wins custody of Hollywood”! As if we needed more proof that Hollywood is full of sexist people who will always side with the guy, no matter what they do. Johnny Depp, Josh Brolin, Woody Allen, Casey Affleck, etc. etc. The only way to get blacklisted there (if you’re a white male) is to speak against jews or being extremely conservative.
Leaving whatever happened in that family aside, I don’t think Angelina is some innocent dove, she did go pretty rough against Pitt’s image at first. However, portraying her as someone desperate to get back the fame and star power that Brad so generously bestowed upon her is ridiculous. Reminds me of the portrayal all the tabloids did of Jennifer Aniston when they split, she was also desperate (for a man). So sad.
^^THIS!!!!^^^
I agree with you Ana. Page Six has been harsh, white men don’t get blacklisted, and I can’t see Jolie desperate for Hollywoods good graces. That being said, I don’t think she handled the divorce or the custody issues well. Primarily regarding the minimal visitation, children’s lack of therapy participation and pointed mudslinging in December and January.
That was the choice of dcfs and 6 therapist. She handled it the best she could after her children were put through hell by Brad Pitt.
6 therapist said he should not be around the kids but she’s wrong. Mmmk
You see, she follows the rules.
That’s where we disagree. That is not the truth as I see it. There is no need to rehash it bit by bit since you are firm in your beliefs and I in mine. I can genuinely say 100 nice things about Jolie but I strongly question her management of the divorce and child custody issues.
LoL it’s a fact that SIX therapists from the dcfs investigation recommended that he not be around his kids alone. Angelina followed their recommendations for the health of her kids. There is no argument to be had.
In the beginning that’s fairly accurate. When he still wasn’t gaining any more than a pathetic token of visitation by January- with only some of kids- that’s on Jolie. I see it as a *shrug* my hands are tied cop-out excuse to blame the therapists at that point. They just don’t have that kind of power.
methinks, the other party dost protest too much.
A Brangelina divorce was never going to be easy considering their status. It’s apparent though that a lot of people believe Jolie made a conscious decision not to simply divorce but to destroy Pitt’s image and keep sole custody of their children. That’s the core of her PR problem, hence the title “Angelina may have the kids, but Brad has custody of Hollywood.”
I agree…it hit a nerve somehow that he was denied access to his kids so abruptly and for so long…yet no wrong doing was ever found.
It is a very common divorce/custody tactic and it did not sit well with average folk and no doubt some Hollywood folk as well. When it comes to protecting children..everyone agrees that these laws are crucial. However, I personally have seen good Dads lose custody of their children after vague and unfounded accusations of neglect or abuse…many times social workers themselves see it as a tactic in a custody battle and not a fact. of course, real abuse and neglect clearly happen all the time and we need these laws…but “Dad won’t let me text my friends after midnight” is not neglect and “Mom makes me clean my room” is not abuse. However, these accusations have been leveled at good parents..all the time…and it is primarily because one parent wants more child support or sole custody…not because a child is actually neglected or abused.
@ladyt
Aren’t we forgetting something? Therapy, alcohol/substance abuse testing, Brad temporarily losing physical custody at the suggestion of professionals until he gets his ish together following what was an alleged public drunk rage altercation with his child?
I know it makes some women feel better about their misogynistic tendency to blame custodial responsible parent Angelina for everything by PRETENDING their split is some average ‘we grew apart’ normalcy…
– but NOT mentioning the 4 agency investigation of his purported public drunk rage and terrorizing of his children, and his subsequent modified rehab and his losing custody temporarily because of all that — is a bit irresponsible, don’t you think?
I also guess you missed the part where this is a gossip rag tabloid bullsh* narrative owned by the vile Rupert Murdoch fox news Trump friendly rag — and by accepting what they vendetta publish you’re loudly proclaiming your own biases?
Also to @geneva
You’re doing the same thing it appears. Trying to present this as just a split and child custody case- and actually inferring that its just Brad’s kids miffed they can’t text after midnight, mixed with a nice large helping of Maleficent Angelina turning the peeved bratty kids against Dad.
My my…what did Dad do? Why nothing. He just asked he to clean his room.
Now for a reality check: Brad seems to have been temporarily without physical custody of his kids at the suggestion of professional therapists (agreed to by Brad himself) for the amount of time it takes someone to go through a customized modified rehab for drinking and drugs. This arose from his alleged public drunk rage on a plane terrorizing his kids and putting the family and everyone in jeopardy.
You must have forgot all about that.
Nope. Not forgetting The Incident. Just didn’t feel the need to include that parameter every. single. time. Sure enough though, the first time I didn’t make it absolutely clear that I am well aware that Brad acted like an ass you called me on it.
@AlmondMilk Re: “public drunk rage…terrorizing his kids”
Brad said he had been drinking prior to the altercation, but Angelina told DCFS that Brad did not start drinking until after the altercation and that he was sober when he did or said whatever he did or said. I’d expect you of all people to know that.
I’m trying to understand Lady T’s point. So, because some of the children didn’t want to see him, and some of the children were still “traumatized” by him, Angie shoulda forced the children to see him, even if they were afraid of him? I think if Pretty Boy Pitt had simply issued an apology (and I’m sure his team would have made the world aware of this) most of this would have been avoided. His team did say while he didn’t strike Maddox, he did put his hand on Maddox’ body somewhere. So is this behavior alright?
There are thousands of nights of parenting. At some point of the story continuing to focus on a single night is just not fair or right or complete. Yes, I absolutely think the kids should have been required to attend therapy. That’s kind of the point of the therapy is it not? Pitt owed his kids an apology, not the public.
#alternativefacts
Uh, IS her reputation in tatters, though? I haven’t heard about any of this.
No good deed goes unpunished… especially that of a strong, hardworking woman.
The reality is that their partnership elevated Pitt to a man of substance, gave him a philanthropic profile. I’m not saying he was never charitable without her, but as her generosity has come to define her, Pitt benefitted from that.
Both are imperfect and have behaved inappropriately at times, but his desire fame stands in stark contrast to her desire to help people. He can have “custody of Hollywood” because she doesn’t need it.
I say this as someone who has never really been a fan of either. But whatever her faults, she takes action to back up her words, and I can ever criticize that.
This was another blantant character assassination. As usual the men are blameless. Billy bob was nearly twenty or so yrs older than her & he was the one in the realationship. Brad 12yrs older also the one who took vows but Jolie was the one that was all to blame? Hollywood to Angelina comes very much down the list of importance in her life, unlike pitt who wouldn’t know how to function without any of it. Angelina has all the love & respect from her children. Can brad say the same? So he can keep all the phoneys in the industry while angie has her childrens, her family & her friends love & respect & all her activism work that she is so passionate about. She also won her oscar when she was 24yrs. Brad hadn’t even done thelma & louise yet at 24yrs. She’s accomplished so much already & is only 41. Imagine what she will have acheived by the time she brad’s age?
@Molly I am just going to list Major Accomplishments from Dame Angelina before the age of 40.
1. UN World Citizen Award 2005
2. King of Cambodia made her Citizen of Cambodia
3. 1 Oscar for Acting
4. 1 Oscar for her Humanitarian work 2013
5. Build Hospitals and Schools in Africa, Middle East and Cambodia
6. Develop a Environment Program in Cambodia 2005
7. Knighted DAME COMMANDER From the Queen of England 2014
8. Created a Master Program for Women at the London School of Economics
9. Created a Women Center at the London School of Economics
10. Angelina accepted Professorship at London School Economics
11. Became a Director and Producer and Writer in 2010
12. Business Woman
13. Appointed UN Special Envoy for Refugees in 2012
14. Worked for UN for 17 years
15. Certified Pilot qualified Instruments
This is just a small list of her accomplishments
Exactly. When Brad was 27 he was dating a 16 year old. When Angelina was 27 she was adopting her first child and changing her life for the better. They were always too different.
I believe Brad is a hug manipulator and pretended to be someone he’s not to get Angelina. She thought he was a better man and boy was she wrong.
@YepIsaidIt Yes that’s the truth.
I could see that if they were together a year or two, but 12?
She may have custody of the kids, but he has custody of Hollywood?! Are you f***ing kidding me? First of all, I’m sure the kids are more important to her than Hollywood and Brad’s the clear loser in that equation if you’re going to suggest they both have to have either one or the other. Secondly, that is so sexist – she was putting in her work and her talent way before she even met Brad. And she was famous before she met him. But now, all of the sudden, he was her Hollywood guardian angel? Bitch please. I’m not an Angelina stan, but this is straight up ridiculous. She put in years with that man (and frankly, I find Brad Pitt to be kind of overrated and always have) and it sounds like he’s the one who messed it up. Let him have custody of Hollywood (even though he doesn’t). Angelina’s bigger than that, and her comments to the BBC were very kind and thoughtful. Grrr … between the usual Trump shite this morning and this, I’m so triggered!
“She may have custody of kids but he has custody of Hollywood”
The sad thing is I think Brad Pitt would be perfectly happy with that. I believe he cares for his kids but Hollywood and his image come first.
I’ve stayed out of the fray as I have been ‘in love’ with Brad since I was 16… Not his brain, just his devilish good looks. So I’ve felt disingenuous commenting. But this article is out of line. I hope she doesn’t deign to respond – her star wattage was bright way before Mr Pitt. Her humanitarian work as well. There comes a time to draw the line between what’s real and what’s plain stupid reporting. Page Six, shame on you!
She definitely shouldn’t respond. Her response should just be living well. Same goes for him. A lot of people are going to try and profit off of their personal strife. They should pay no attention to it.
I dont think anyone is behind the article other than the person who wrote it. Everyone has an opinion and HW sees Angelina as unlikeable. I dont think either of them were huge movie stars prior to their relationship. If anyone was it was him, not her. People loved the scandal and the adopting of children really turned them into celebrities. Pitt has been part of some great films. His career will be fine. Hers not so much. It’s just my opinion but she is not a very good actress. I think this article is a reflection of the true feeling of AJ by most of HW.
Of course Brad is behind it. The only people who say Angelina is unlikable are Brad fans, his pr team and tabloids. After her divorce she was staying with some huge producer that no one even knew she was friends with. Proves no one knows who likes or hates her. She’s made a lot of friends with cinematographers and people who she worked on her directed movies with too. One just called her his sister recently.
After she released her Op-Ed in Nyt about refugees she got support from Hollywood on Twitter.
It’s a joke to say she’s hated when she’s basically grown up there and probably has more and knows more Hollywood friends than brad pitt does. Brad just has the fake friends and Hollywood means more to him than his own family does. Angelina could take or leave Hollywood but she has said she appreciates the opportunities Hw gave her.
But another thing I’ve noticed is that some of her friends are not part of Hollywood. Arminka helic gave a recent interview and said she was like a sister to her. Luong ung talks about their friendship and watching Maddox and pax grow up to caring lovely young men. Her closest friends are real and not fake like Brad.
@YepIsaidIt Yes Angelina has friends outside Hollywood political friends. Marianne Pearl is a dear friend of hers. Pitt has fake friends in Hollyweird. Tom Brokaw is friend of hers and said she is the ‘REAL DEAL’.
People do not know this but George Lucas is a dear friend who ask Angelina out lunch to seek her advice on adoption. Gena Rowland is a dear friend, Dustin Hoffman adores him some Angelina. Gena and George presented Angelina the Oscar for her Humanitarian work.
His “star power” sure as heck did not help his last movie. Allied bombed so hard, it struggled to make $40 million domestically. He made a much hyped visit to China only for it to make $5 million in total. Pitt may have the entertainment media in his corner but they are not helping him at the box office.
http://www.boxofficeflops.com/yearly-breakdowns/2016-2/allied/
I do believe his pr crisis management team (didn’t he hire the same people who work with Bieber) is behind this latest AJ smear. They’re trying to paint her as a has been who owed all her Hollywood success to him.
Exactly- it’s ridiculous. Angelina is the last person who needs a publicist. She handles the press very well on her own and always has.
It’s a shame Brad is abusing his family all over again.
Yes, it is obvious and it’s disgusting of him after what he’s put his family through. It’s like he is furthering the abuse.
I read ages ago that Geyer Kosinski did not like Brad or his Pr team so he left Angelina. Angelina didn’t fire him- now he’s back because Brad is gone.
Angelina made the decision to have a less “Hollywood-centric” career herself. I don’t buy that she’s worried about that or that Brad is in her way. She’s living out her own choices.
+1 She clearly was in the midst of a professional transition anyway. They are so different, and she’s never been as enamored of Hollywood as he. I think she probably outgrew him a while ago, but tried to make it work for the kids’ sakes.
I agree with you. She did outgrow him but stayed for the kids’ sake until it became untenable.
@Tracking True!
I agree!
Agree OG.
The only thing he ever did for her was turn her into a tabloid star, make people question her humanitarian work, and make her one of the most hated celebs in the US.
The worst thing she ever did was get with brad pitt. She would have a lot more peace had she never met his sorry ass! Lol
she would likely have more peace…but she wouldn’t have three of those kids, so i am betting she feels it was a worthwhile trade-off.
i am also betting that she may be disappointed over how it imploded, but i doubt she regrets it (the relationship, not the way it imploded).
and, ultimately, i am betting they will be happier apart once the dust finally settles.
i hope so, anyway.
I thought she wanted away from Hollywood anyway? Like she was dunzo with the whole scene. Regarding her reputation, well, she *does* get involved with married men, so that backlash is warranted. I hear she’s dating a married billionaire philanthropist now.
“well, she *does* get involved with married men, so that backlash is warranted. I hear she’s dating a married billionaire philanthropist now.”
Umm 😐…………..nope, nope, nope, not today Satan, not today.
Pitts fan wanted the papers sealed so the truth would never come out to put a stain on his IMAGE. The main grievance they have with Angelina, she did not seal it in the beginning because now he’s been expose. They will hole this against Angelina for telling the truth about their Golden Boy.
Pitts fan wanted the papers sealed so the truth would never come out to put a stain on his IMAGE. The main grievance they have with Angelina, she did not seal it in the beginning because now he’s been expose. They will hole this against Angelina for telling the truth about their Golden Boy.
Faces he is a Weak Man.
Page six don’t understand this woman, they should do research properly since 2010 angelina acted in 2 movies Maleficient and By The Sea, she doesn’t like acting anymore but rather be behind the camera. She turned down a lot roles, who need Hollywood when Hollywood are knocking at your door.
They aren’t knocking at her door anymore
She’s done 6 movies since 2010. Google IMDB.com. If you are not familiar with the site it’s everything TV, stage and movie related. It has a list of the movies she’s done.
I can’t believe she turned down Gravity. But that would have been a vastly different movie if it’d starred her rather than Bullock.
I thought this trick was done with Hollywood and wanted to work at the UN?
Thank you Celebitchy for giving me a way to NOT visit “Page Six”.
Oh for god’s sake, enough of this bashing! Angelina was world-famous BEFORE Brad, and let’s be real, their union helped him more than her to become an household name.
Um, no. Pitt was second only behind Tom Cruise pre-Jolie.
I disagree about Brad.
Before Jolie, Brad Pitt was an Oscar nominated actor, tabloid poster boy who starred in a string of movies (Interview with the vampire, Legends, Seven, Fight Club) that put him on the map. At one point he was engaged to up and coming actress Goop, then went on to marry the most famous Friend on TV to become Hollywood’s golden boy and a couple for 7 years.
I find the article harsh but also not entirely untrue. Now, I’m in my mid 30s and didn’t grow up in the US. I would say, Brad has always been the bigger star of the two and given his movie choices lately (acting and producing) and the fact that he’s white, male and still good looking, he’ll be fine.
Don’t think Angelina will be if she doesn’t soon show some results. The movies she directs tend to be melodramatic and not well received and as an actress, she hasn’t done anything Oscar worthy in a while. Maleficient was a Disney crowdpleaser but outside of that she hasn’t shown much results. If you think that a woman in her 40s who isn’t Meryl Streep has Hollywood knocking at her door for the good parts you’re delusional. She may want to leave Hollywood behind but Hollywood isn’t chasing her either.
😂 yeah right. Angelina was fine before, she’s doing fine now, and will continue to be fine in and outside of Hollywood. I’m sure Hollywood is still thrilled with the opportunity to work with her.
His fans will see him in a few days at the Oscar he is executive producer of the movie Moonlight not producer. the producer not executive gets the Oscar. He will be front and center to take the credit in which he was not hands with the movie.
They both always looked like they could have benefited from a bath more often. I don’t think either of them are that great. Neither of them even make movies that are watchable anymore.
If Brad Pitt did something wrong, wouldn’t he have been found guilty of wrong doing?
The fact that he was not found guilty means something to me.
Nobody knows what goes on in people’s homes or marriages. So why do folks want to take sides.
The records should remain sealed for the sake of those kids. They don’t need their private family lives spilled out in public
Jolie lost a lot of respect from me by making it so public.
Say what you will about Gwyneth but you don’t see her going into her exes issues in public.
Angelina could have kept their family issues private and no one would be taking sides.
Basically to me Brad looks good for wanting to have the records sealed and it private.
Look Angelina was married to the guy with him for 12 years. If he really was an alcoholic, violent drug abuser why was she with him for so long? Why did she subject the kids to that for so long? She was calling him a wonderful father at one point and now he is being a wonderful father.
Reality is Brad did not have to do anything to make her look bad.
Can’t wait for Catherine the great.