Here are some photos of Tom Hiddleston – aka Tommy Piddles – in New York yesterday, outside of the AOL Build session to promote Kong: Skull Island. I don’t have much to say about these photos other than “yay, Tommy Piddles is in America!” and “I wouldn’t have put that maroon top with that ensemble.” I keep telling you, he has a color issue. The red shade looks nice on him, but the whole outfit together doesn’t really work. Anyway, someone finally asked Tom about the Glorious Tiddlebanging of 2016! I was so worried that Tom’s GQ interview was going to be the last word on everything. Thankfully, the Telegraph didn’t play along and now we’ve been gifted with Tom acting slightly snotty about personal questions. You can read the full Telegraph interview here. Some highlights:
Whether he has any regrets about the Tiddlebanging: “What should I regret, in your mind?” he shoots back, testily. Then: “I would rather not talk about this if that’s alright.” Then a long pause, with his hand on his chin. “I’m just thinking about this,” he says after a pause. Then: “Everyone is entitled to a private life. I love what I do and I dedicate myself with absolute commitment to making great art and great entertainment and in my mind I don’t conflict the two. My work is in the public sphere and I have a private life. And those two things are separate.”
He’s an urban creature: “I think one of the most thrilling things about this film is that it satisfies that curiosity that we all have, about how long we would last if we were in a wilderness untouched by man. I always thought if somebody dropped me into the Amazon, would I make it through the first night or the second night, or would it be over by 6 o’clock? No, I am an urban creature really, but I loved playing this man Conrad, who I think is more content in an extreme, natural environment, probably more than he is anywhere else.”
He gets that he’s expected to give interviews: “I understand that this is a big film and it’s part of my duty to stand in front of it and do interviews and go to premieres and meet people and that somehow goes with the territory. So I just try to be myself.”
He doesn’t get to keep all of the Gucci duds: “I am very lucky that there is an aspect of my job which requires promotion and so I most recently am lucky enough to work with Gucci, who have lent me clothes to wear on those occasions. So some of those clothes I get to keep, but a lot of them I give back, I can assure you.”
He never hangs out with Eton classmate Prince William: “I think Prince William is rather busy and has more important things to do than to hang out with me. But I saw him at a premiere of War Horse a few years back which was nice.”
How all of these posh Eton graduates have ended up actors: “I honestly don’t know. When I chose to become an actor it felt like a very unusual thing to be doing and I certainly didn’t feel I was choosing to do something that everyone else was doing. I suppose it’s an interesting fact but I can’t really comment on it because it’s just a school I went to.
“Everyone is entitled to a private life… My work is in the public sphere and I have a private life.” Yeah, not to nitpick, but… you don’t get to pull the privacy card when you went on an International Tiddlebanging Tour complete with suspiciously convenient kissy-face photo-ops in Rhode Island, LA, Rome, the English countryside and Australia. Let’s not forget the “I Heart T.S.” t-shirt. And let’s not forget that you also dumped out your purse to GQ just a short time ago and wouldn’t even let the GQ journalist get on her plane before you could get angsty while explaining all of your very private feelings. Please. Enough with that.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
Le sigh… I feel exhausted from this. Do I take a day off from work?
Sure. Take tomorrow off.
Oh Tom ya big doofus…. this is what happens when you date Taylor Swift. A quick google search of “Taylor Swift boyfriend” would’ve given you a clue what you were in for.
This is why so many fans were peed off last year. A bit defensive on the regrets question, hit a nerve.
I don’t listen to Taylor Swift, but I wonder if she’s written the song yet about this ex boyfriend. Did he go into the relationship knowing there would be a song if they broke up?
In an interview after the Met gala, he said he wasn’t familiar with her music before he met her.
Maybe I’m wrong but I’m sure he said in that interview I think with Josh from MTV or something like that when they asked him if he was now in the squad or something that he mentioned he was aware of her music and talked about I think “shake it off” to do with when they were filming “ISTL”
It is quite impossible that he was unaware of who she is and her reputation. Her song writing isnt something relegated to tabloids, it has actually made it to news bulletins. He KNEW he would get a song, maybe he expected the relationship to last but he KNEW a star of Taylors magnitude would become part of his backstory. He KNEW. He probably hoped he could go the way of Jake Gyllenhaal but he overplayed his hand with the World Tour and the stupid T Shirt.
Tom is just mad because he isnt being memorialised as the hot English guy who swept a pop Princess away for a Summer but rather a man who took desperate shot at stardom and was amusingly clumsy about it.
@Sheanna
I don’t know actually. I only found out about Swift, her Instagrammed squad and her serial boyfriend antics through the Hiddleswift thing. I’d heard of her before of course, but knew next to nothing about her, her celebrity lifestyle or her music. She just didn’t come on my radar, probably because she’s not my cup of tea.
Maybe it was a similar thing for Hiddleston and all he saw was “TAYLOR SWIFT INTERNATIONAL POP STAR” and didn’t bother to look any further than that. He knew of course that her level of fame was huge (particularly in the US) and that was enough to get him to agree. Still speaks of utter cluelessness and, frankly, stupidity though, when you consider how she typically presents herself and how at odds that all is with his own outlook normally. Barmy.
I know a grand total of two Swift songs and turn the radio station, if that’s where I hear them, the second I realize what they are. I knew very little about her until last summer. Didn’t care to know. Don’t want to know more. Even those of us who follow gossip don’t follow everyone and not everyone follows gossip.
“I think Prince William is rather busy” No, he isnt.
Lol QueenB.
Yes, they must have been talking about different princes.
Well, he is rather “keen” on vacation planning. Terribly exhausting.
Why ask him if he regrets it though ?
If he said ‘Yes it was a massive mistake’ He’d be getting slaughtered. He spent the Summer flying around in a private jet, with a wealthy young Woman. Presumably having sex with her and going to nice places.
There were some rather clunky photo ops, but I’ve seen worse.
I concede that it’s a bit rich to cite privacy when you’ve pap walked your family, but again I’ve seen a lot worse from other celebs.
The interviewer appears to be trying to get him to admit it was a publicity stunt that backfired, and no one in their right mind would admit to that.
I think its time to move on from the vest now as well.
He’s NEVER going to live down that vest. It’s folklore now.
They must have got him on a bad day here, because what he’s saying just doesn’t jive with the way he actively chose to live his life those few weeks/months. The realisation that the TS thing is going to follow him for eternity (well at least until some poor sap marries that girl) probably stings.
Bee… He he he (old school lol)
Bee, I want your icon.
Of course he will live it down. Most of rest of the world doesn’t give a toss.
look, i’m all for celebs being private. but like emma watson said, you want privacy, you can have it by being low key.
also i don’t believe in actors being papped without their consent anymore. obviously sometimes you can tell it’s unexpected because they look awful and unhappy, but the vast majority are obvious set up, sooooooo. pipe down.
+1000
I think he’s displaying a bit of cognitive dissonance here. Most people reading gossip sites and tabloids will see through a load of paparazzi photos, esp if they appear set up. I’ve noticed that some fans don’t want to believe it, but to everyone else esp the media, going onto complain about privacy is very hypocritical.
Meh, I’ll be charitable and say that it sounds like he was either having a bad day or that his views on public v. private sphere have changed/are changing.
Maybe. On the one hand, I’ve seen friends who were not even that famous get papped against their will. I know a woman who’s married to a former Doctor Who actor and she got stalked by paps when she got pregnant with his kid, before they were married — a couple of times they managed to pap the baby and every single time his legal team got the pics killed (were able to kill the pics only because it was a child and pics were taken in the UK – when they go to the USA there is nothing they can do to stop pap pics of their kids and it is genuinely upsetting for them).
But on the other hand a Big Brother contestant’s manager once phoned a friend who used to work for the Sun to say, “she’ll be coming out of x club at exactly this time, and then she will have a fight with so-and-so and will fall over exposing her thong.” All of this was hours ahead of time so it was entirely staged.
Honestly. IF Beyonce on the year of Lemonade can avoid paps spotting her bump and avoid the paps AFTER the big pregnancy reveal. IF Angelina and Brad can avoid the paps in the course of their high profile divorce, while they each continue to work on their projects and attend counselling in one house. IF Prince Harry can carry on a Trans Atlantic relationship for months before confirming it and then host his girl in the middle of London. If these exceptionally high profile people with a pap price tag on their heads can do all these things without being papped, there is no way these two were just “unlucky”. They set it up or at the very least actively courted it.
This.^^^^
I don’t care if he wants to use a fling or relationship to get more press. What bugs me about TommyAnnE is his acting like he can’t help the pap shots that were so obviously arranged for maximum exposure. Her people made sure they would headline for weeks. They only went underground — after weeks of getting mocked — when she had the biggest scandal of her career unfold with the reckoning of the receipts.
I’ll never forget that he papped his family for that overgrown teenager and his enormous thirst.
That being said, the Mr and I will be seeing the monkey movie this weekend.
Yep. Tom and his many words about privacy and authenticity have irked me so much lately. I’ve stopped watching most of his interviews – I just look at the pretty pictures. I’m seeing the Monkey Movie on Friday, but it might be the last of his projects where I spend money just because he’s in it.
There’s no question they did, but fyi it does take money and resources to avoid the paps and maintain that level of privacy. Which they have (or at least she certainly does) but not everyone you see papped does. A mate of mine who’s a working but non famous stage actor started dating that Sherlock guy’s ex and got stalked by paps a little bit and they definitely weren’t calling them nor had the resources to reliably avoid them.
I wonder if that’s one of the reasons most everyone did a collective eye-roll during the Summer of Love, we all knew they could have easily avoided at least some of the feeding frenzy, but instead of exercising some discretion they leaned in and seemed to wallow in the attention.
The collective celeb-watching culture has gotten pretty good at spotting the spontaneous vs. the arranged (I hope), but there are times when it is honestly hard to tell. I truly feel bad for the performers that just want to work and go about their lives without paparazzi trailing them, but the ones that actively call the photogs to document their trips to the gym or wherever who then go and whine about their loss of privacy make my teeth hurt.
This is tedious beyond belief. No one cares! Well, only those who have no other knowledge of Hiddleston except through the Swift romance.
See how in the UK Class is sooooo entrenched and privilege so rife…..that you had to have gone to the same school the Prince went to in order to be taken seriously. You Hiddlebitches should be condemning this white privileged MF. Seriously. Can a pair twinkly eyes undo so much privilege? Trust me….that “awkward honesty” – is guilt from privilege.
Nah, I love him speciffically for his white privilege,
I’m crying. x’D
He isn’t personally to blame for the class system or for where his parents sent him to school. He has admitted in the past that he has been very lucky and privileged.
I go into more detail below, but Americans do not automatically have this response. We have plenty of class issues [that we lie about] and income inequality. However, our actors are not classified this way. No American actor would be asked about where he went to school. No one says ” Here is Bradley Cooper” late of Georgetown, one of our best schools or “poor Channing Tatum; he has almost no formal education.” Again, in another post I ask to be more informed about how the UK class system limits opportunities in the arts. Coming from a quite humble background myself, I am nothing but sympathetic.
Spidey, I was responding to Pat, of course.
No problem I realised that.
@pat,why would we condemn someone just because they went to a good school the Prince also went to? That’s petty. Should he not have gone there? He knows he was lucky. Me, a Hiddlebitch, thinks of more than what school someone went to
Ha ha! TS was next level bearding..his pr people might have orchestrated it, but his gleeful participation in hoax off the charts..those campy pix in Rhode Island..cringe…Loses 10 points in artistic credibility! Such a good serious actor! Shameful. He was in the circus and is now testy when we ask? He wanted to be James Bond a little too much. Drastic measures can backfire, sir.
I love that shade of red! Where can I find a top like the one he’s wearing? Just in my price range, though?
That one is Gucci.
I am really really over this story and the privacy thing, and the “crazy” thoughts celebs have about “”being in the wild”” for a film. It sounds soooooo dumb.
It’s like a really wealthy *friend* of mine who keeps talking to me about her problems with “the help” with despair as if I could relate and even cared.
I find it funny that he has to answer the questions about the tiddlesbanging tbh. Either he wants to be asked about it, or he doesn’t have enough “power” to stop important publications for asking him about it.
In the meanwhile, Swifty has vanished from the public eye, and when the time for a new album campaign comes around she won’t be asked about it, because she will have seen the mess that Tom is making out of himself
His PR could actually stop this by making it known not to ask questions about Tiddlesbanging, its common practice. The fact that he has been quite open about talking about it till now means that he (and his PR) have finally grasped thats its all people are interested in and not him or his career/movie. They are failing to change the narrative around him from one of tabloid gossip (Swifty and those Bond stories) to one about his work/career. But that seems to be the story of his PR, trying to bolt the stable door once the horses have ran off. He needs new PR.
Yeah, unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. Only super A-listers have that kind of control over the press (and sometimes not even then). Actors’ publicists do sometimes give journos lists of approved and non-approved questions and areas for discussion but it often becomes part of the article itself.
I read a Sunday Times interview with the wife of a controversial public figure recently, and half the article was wanging on about how she refused to discuss her children despite promoting a children’s book, due to threats to their safety from people who disagree with her husband’s work. It was the most awkward read ever, because it’s just the journalist repeatedly trying to sneak in ‘forbidden’ questions and then recounting how the publicist swooped in to demand they stop, recounting how the woman squirmed and tried to apologise and explain it was legitimately a safety concern, etc. etc. It was painful to read.
If Hiddles did do that, it would practically guarantee “HIDDLESTON BANS JOURNOS FROM ASKING ABOUT TAYLOR SWIFT” headlines and considering the PR stunts with the T-shirt and Aldeburgh papwalk he’d get absolutely slaughtered for being a hypocrite.
Yeah the Daily Mail would probably go with something like this:
‘The old Etonian was tight lipped about his Summer fling with pop Princess Taylor Swift. The loved up couple show cased their pert romance upon the rocks of Rhode Island, and shared a romantic tryst in the eternal lovers city of Rome.
The Songbird was even taken to Suffolk to meet Hiddleston’s family. As the entertainment industry waited with bated breath for an engagement announcement.
Sadly their romance could not withstand their hectic schedule’s and now Hiddleston refuses to discuss his summer heartbreak, firmly rejecting any questions about his whirlwind fling with one of the worlds most famous Women.
His press embargo includes any mention of pastry swans, vests, Roman ice cream or the fish and chip shops of breezy Suffolk. Preferring instead to concentrate on his latest offering, King Kong, the story of a rather large Ape.”
@Fluff Right. I don’t know how people keep forgetting, for example, that interview done to Robert Downey Jr, where the interviewer suddenly started asking personal questions out of the blue during an Avengers promo junket, prompting RDJ to quit it there. And that was Robert Downey Jr!! I don’t know where do people here want Tom to get this magic!PR.
As a former PR practitioner. The studio PR do have the clout to shut this down and I doubt they would object if he requested they enforce a NO list. Its in their interests to ensure that their macho star isnt constantly being reduced to a pop star groupie.
Serious outlets like BBC and Channel 4 will probably not interview you with a NO list. They dont see themselves as promotional outlets, so if you give them a list they simply wont have you on. Thats what happened with RDJ. The interviewer doesnt do puff pieces and doesnt take NO lists. RDJs PR probably assumed a corner had been turned on the drug stories and nobody would bother going there, but this guy did.
Toms solution is easy. Request the studio PR to enforce a NO list. This means s/he must be glued to his side for every interview ready to shut it down should it go south. They MUST get him off the serious publications, the ones less likely to do puff pieces. Why is he promoting King Kong on the Telegraph of all places? Alternatively, get Samuel L or one of the other co-stars to do the prestigous outlets.
Personally, I suspect that these options have been laid out to him but HE insists on continuing on with the prestigous outlets because he isn’t just trying to promote the movie, he wants to promote himself. If I am right, he deserves all the ridicule they are heaping on him.
@Jess
I have no doubt he wants the attention and coverage from the bigger, more prestigious outlets, yes. I’m sure he always does if he can possibly get it.
The Swift connection doesn’t appear to be going away, especially as well since he’s recently been snapped hanging out with Swifty chum Ed Sheeran. So another excuse for the tabloids to rake it all up again. Should I admire his chutzpah? lol
@Jess, he has done several BBC interviews for Kong and UNICEF without a single question about her. And sorry, any news source that is asking questions about a 3 months long fling that ended without public blow ups about cheating or accusations of violence seven months ago has taken itself out of the category of “prestigious” and hurled itself into the category of “outdated trash.”
He does NOT have that kind of power.
@Lightpurple Once media outlets such as the Telegraph follow on this sort of strategy and questioning, I don’t trust the media in the least, not to, for example, upon being asked *not* to ask about a particular subject, “leak” that such a request was made, just for clicks and giggles.
He really doesn’t. But even if he did, I don’t think he knows how to wield such power. I think this is the third or fourth time he has put down a boundary about what he doesn’t want to talk about (specifically I’m thinking about that interview where he recited Shakespeare to the ducks and said he didn’t want to talk about Eton) , only to ruminate for a bit and then start talking about it for paragraph after paragraph. He is the king of extra.
You can’t vanish from the public eye when you are contractually obliged to promote the film you starred in when it first comes out.
I agree with him getting testy and not wanting to talk about it. After my last break up, everyone was nagging me about him. Where was he? OMG! you guys split? You guys seemed so happy, He’s so handsome! What happened? Are you getting back together? I heard this everyday. Can’t imagine if I was famous and was asked and nagged about it everyday in interviews everyone could hear. They should drop the Swift subject and move on. Plenty of other things to talk about
I completely avoided my father’s sister for five years because of questioning like that. It is insensitive and rude.
I knoooow! Breakups are rough and painful, I can’t imagine getting asked about it for months after. If he had genuine feelings for Swifty, this must hurt.
What exactly is he supposed to say about something that ended seven months ago that won’t make him sound like a cad? You don’t talk about exs in interviews. It is a gross lack of discretion and rude. Long since time for interviewers to move on.
Sounds like he was having a bad day, but in these situations how about “she’s a great girl, we had a fun time, but it didn’t work out”. That’s usually the best way to go, or your publicist does their job and makes sure these questions are off the table when setting up the interview (as Digital’s post above).
He pretty much said that in the radio interview. The Telegraph interviewer asked if he regrets. He doesn’t have enough clout to dictate what he can’t be asked but these questions are just for clickbait for the interviewer.
So “no I don’t regret it, she’s a great girl etc”, and accept that there’s a possibility that the question may be asked and that giving a positive, diplomatic answer is better than getting testy. If your pr can’t screen the questions in advance.
Start singing that Edith Piaf song and let it go at that.
@Miss Jupitero. THAT would be fantastic! Non, rien de rien. Non, je ne regrette rien. Ni le bien qu’on m’a fait, ni le mal. Tout ça m’est bien égal!
Seriously EXTRA by go for it.
Agree, Becky. Why is it so hard to believe that the guy actually thought this 🐍had real feelings for him and he was all in? Is he extra? Yes. Does he jump in without thinking? YES. Does he overthink afterward? You bet.
I’m sure he thought he was in love and found out the hard way that fame bites back.
I still hold with my original opinion that he truly did not know he was being used. That’s for you, Bonzo 😙
Pshaw… He’s naive to think we’d all believe his silly “I just want my privacy” bunk.
Did you see that they’re working on another TNM series? God help me. Unless Olivia’s in it, I won’t be watching.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-39197012
I legit don’t know what the media wants out of Tom with that line of questioning at this point.
He should “conflict” [although surely he meant ‘conflate’] the two because his “commitment to art[iface]” gave us “great entertainment” last Summer.
“It’s just a school I went to.”
Oh, just fuck the fuck off, you fucking idiot. You make me want to spit when you do this. Not playing on this thread further today. Sorry to swear (to Celebitches, not this entitled wanker).
A school which spends considerable amounts on its ‘theatre group’.
Although Sixer – at least you know Eton streams their less gifted towards theatre/acting and/or Classics.
When I first learned Hiddles had a Classics degree from Cambridge, I was vaguely impressed. Then you all clued me into the fact that Classics was an easier path into Oxbridge for Etonians and Harrowers (Harrowites?) since very few other schools in the UK would actually offer the necessary Latin/Greek classes needed for that kind of study. Less competition for placement, yes? Don’t get me wrong, I’m still impressed the boy learned Latin and Greek, but I’ve stopped thinking he’s a genius. Smart by actor standards, but still.
Right??!!!
And the only thing his travelling and professional experiences opened him up to is that he is no Robinson Crusöe. Not an ounce of self-awareness.
Cracks me up.
i know. his lot is so uncomfortable addressing the problem, and this attitude contributes to it as well. the truth is that unless your family has money, in britain you can forget about working in the arts. and those actors who had the means to achieve what they wanted feel personally attacked when this fact is brought up, instead of admitting there’s a systemic issue in britain, that needs overhauling.
to me TH proves to be consistently the worst, always.
Ok. I will play once more because I have been waiting to see you, ell, to show you Riz Ahmed in Parliament!
http://www.facebook.com/rizmc/videos/10154393155118997/
(I’m still sending LEGS to Coventry and he’ll be there for some time now he’s resurrected this crap.)
Ell, exactly, as I believe Julie Waters pointed out in a interview recently, that someone from her background wouldn’t make it now due the all the cuts in arts funding.
Tom appeared to be aware of this in an interview last year.
@ell In the UK we depend on the kindness of strangers with the bursary system which is great if a kid/young adult has one but terrible if he doesn’t.
I hear Paul Smith (the clothes designer) sponsors artists, Eddie Redmayne sponsors actors and so on. But it’s a minority. Now, we add to that this new trend of the “posh” actor – which, I think is exagerated but still…
I have been having many sleepless nights bc of my kids, won’t bore with details as all parents go through the same but it is indeed daunting that education is becoming a priviledge and that certain areas of learning are so expensive.
@sixer I jumped onto your Riz train. Whatta man.
The arts in the UK has always been for the wealthy/privileged thou it was getting better – there is way too much snobbery by casting agents and drama schools. I know several professional actors and they all said classism is rife in the industry – with one saying that when she’s networking and auditioning she uses her RP accent, only using her natural accent when with friends/family. She said being posh gets you far and everyone lies about their backgrounds.
Sadly with the cuts we’ll end up with more Piddles and Bendy Big Mouth whiney types and less of the Ibris Elba’s (who has a career thanks to the Princes Trust – an org he is heavily involved in).
Competition for those arts bursaries are lethal – even thou they are supposed to be for those from disadvantaged backgrounds, the middle classes are trying to get in on them as well. I’ve heard stories about how students from the middle classes are getting them over more needy students because Mummy/Daddy knows someone.
@Sixer aww thanks 🙂 i saw it a few days ago on twitter! he’s doing brilliant tbh, so happy to see more british actors from different backgrounds finally speaking up. everyone should jump on the riz train btw!
@slowsnow education is becoming a privilege, more and more these days. and yes, i do agree that the future is scary. idk if the trend of the posh actor is exaggerated though, i can’t think of many actors who made it who aren’t posh or at least well off. that’s why people like riz ahmed, idris elba or dev patel stand out.
@Digital Unicorn, that’s unfair. middle class parents would probably be able to afford it if they saved money, which angers me even more.
@Ell – i agree but I think with the way the economy is going, even the well off middle classes are struggling to fund their offsprings acting/arts career. Its an industry thats all about who you know!
As an American, I am just learning [reading articles for the last year or so] about the British class and educational system and its effect on the arts. My fondness for Hiddleston aside, it is, of course, a tragedy. In the US we have class distinctions [though we pretend we don’t] I am not sure about arts students, but our biggest problem is not just access but crippling student debt [ my little girl owes plenty]. However, one distinction is that we do not associate our actors with particular schools or lack of education. For example, Bradley Cooper went to GEORGETOWN, elite private school. Channing Tatum has publicly lamented his lack of formal education. Neither would be asked about it in a interview. This is just to say, the mention of Eton does not have the same resonance. for us. Please continue comments on this issue. At least this American [from very humble origins] would like to know more. Love to ell and Sixer.
@ell @Betti I feel a bit surprised with the middle class comment but then again I live in London where everything is more expensive. If you have more than one kid and live in London (where just the fee for a month of public transportation is equivalent to what you would pay for a whole year in Rome, I hear) it’s really hard to pay for their higher education, whether it’s in the arts or anywhere else. Even if you have a decent salary. So there’s bursaries or student loans (which I have mixed feelings about).
But if bursaries are going to families who can afford them, then it’s really appalling.
@thirdginger I have cold sweats thinking about my kids being in debt for their education so I can’t imagine how it is with the American fees! Yes, here I have come to realise that schools are a big deal and I wonder if it is because of the huge theatre/drama tradition. It’s well considered. Whereas posh people in my country would rather die than have their kids doing theatre.
@slowsnow – ITA about London (i live here too) but with things like bursaries it depends on how applicants are means tested and who the money comes from – the gov, private fund or from the institution itself. If its from the gov everyone has to provide proof, not sure how strict they are with the private funding schemes. From what i’ve been told its a case of people who come from underprivileged backgrounds having to drop out as they can’t find/get the funds they need to continue and that there has been instances where people have gotten bursaries as a ‘top up’ to what they already have. But everyone is struggling financially so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at this. As I said the arts scene, particularly in London, is very snobby and classist. I have seen this myself as I have worked on the outskirts of it.
Sadly further education in the UK is going to end up being like it is in the US, that only the well off can afford to send their kids to college.
If you look at who is doing well in the US, you’ll find a good many of them started as children (Brie Larson, Ryan Gosling, Ryan Reynolds, Ben Affleck, Joseph Gordon Levitt, Justin Timberlake, most of the cast of BBT, on and on) or had family members in the business (Gwyneth, George Clooney, Jane Fonda, Jennifer Anniston, Angelina Jolie and on and on
Yeah, it seems like the exceptions (like someone like Ben Whishaw) are SUPER rare. It seems all British entertainers/artists turn out to have some kind of background.
I especially like the ones who insist they’re “not” privileged. “I totally don’t care that my dad is a baron!” Like, motherfucker, that’s not the point. You don’t get to decide when you’re privileged and not.
@Slowsnow–Jeremy Irons and Hiddleston sponsor actors at RADA as well, by the way. Plus he does something about once a year with/for RADA to help them raise funds for scholarships.
Also, tbh Sixer, I didn’t get the sense this was a “privileged school doesn’t matter to my career” statement, but rather that –among the other things that were getting him testy–the assumption that he’s pals with Prince William was annoying him.
@TotallyBiased, last week, he did a fundraiser at RADA that involved a showing of Kong. He also did a Q&A with students.
@ WendyNerd “You don’t get to decide when you’re privileged and not.”
That of, course, works both ways.
THIS. And I admit I am feeling extra sensitive about rich people who complain, who absolutely refuse to see how privileged they are. I just spent a week in Florida and had to listen to relatives going on and on about how HARD it is to maintain two houses and put the kids through private schools, and pay the country club fees, and on and on. “We aren’t really rich!”
I hope you brought out your teeniest tiniest violin…
Wow, Sixer. Your Brit is showing. Love you.
He’s just a bit inconsistent, isn’t he?
“My work is in the public sphere and I have a private life. And those two things are separate.”
Am I nitpicking or this is an admission that Hiddleswift was fake? Hiddleswift was very much in the “public sphere” – does that mean it was his “work”? And therefore “separate” from his private life?
Yes 🙂
Desperate and craven publicity seeking all the way IMO.
I think it depends on your perspective, but I remember when the 4th July photos came out I got the impression he was all in, like those pics in China when he visited the Great Wall during promo.
It’s definitely a stretch to interpret his words in this way.
He counts Hiddleswift under private sphere, even if you don’t see it that way.
He probably means that his relationship and his job have nothing to do with each other. Of course everyone saw him with her. They’re both famous and people always notice when a celebrity is in a relationship, especially if both are well known. Were they supposed to walk around in public with pillowcases over their heads so nobody would see them together?
With paper bags saying “I am not famous anymore” over their heads.
Or maybe just not call the paps? Taylor hasn’t been photographed in a while, she’s gone under the radar. She can avoid being pepped if she wants to.
TS is being regularly papped, it’s just not so widely reported (because there’s nothing to report). Look for her (almost) daily “going somewhere unspectacularly” pictures within articles namedropping her.
@Nanny, that’s very Shia Lebouef
I don’t get where this general impression that paps are this benign tame entity, that only shows up upon request.
Has everyone forgotten princess Di?
theHord–EXACTLY!
The paps are DELIGHTED that everyone has bought into their premise that paps only show up when called by the celebrity. They ignore the hundreds of dollars paps pay to get calls from locals, staffers, hospitality employees. They ignore paps tracking celebs via “civilian” tweets and instagrams. They ignore paps tracking TS’ plane’s tail number, then following their vehicles to Aldeburgh.
Paps took a major hit in their ability to chase people down after Princess Diana, they have done an amazing pr job since then in conning the public.
I guess he thought the GQ interview had a drawn a line under it, but perhaps not.
He can’t blag his way through this with any degree of smoothness or believability – whatever he says in response – so I’m still surprised he willingly got involved with the silly TS media circus in the first place.
Maybe he can’t shut it down now though by asking them not to pose the question? If so, this might carry on for some time…
Maybe if he hadn’t talked about it so much in the GQ article, then maybe other people wouldn’t be pressing the issue as hard.
Funny thing, is that I saw people here stating, a few months ago, that if Tom stopped being meek and confronted the issue, then the questions would stop being so insistent. Then GQ came out, and… lo’ and behold! It *didn’t* stop.
I don’t get what people want to get out of him at this point. Color of the toilet paper on Taylor’s house?…
When he talks about it,it’s because he’s being asked during interviews. People are still being nosy. He shouldn’t be pressed about a relationship that wasn’t very long and ended months ago. He has the right to have a private life. His career started before his Taylor Swift relationship. They’re over. He still has his career. Time for everyone to let it go
Oh Hiddle Piddles must call utter tosh on your dismissal of your posh.
😉
Do I get to go on random people’s facebook, that happen to post their silly beach vacation pictures, and kid’s pictures, and life stories, and what not, and demand they fully surrender their right to privacy, or…
Unless it’s Taylor Swifts public social media no, that’s not the same situation Actors and celebs in the public eye are in a business where they will get their photo taken by paps, it’s the downside of the job, and one that a lot of them accept.
Well, I function under the notion actors and celebs are people too. And if there’s a point where the intrusion gets beyond a limit, the targets gets a say in it, call it quits and/or criticize it. Regardless of them being celebs, actors, or Big Brother contestants.
@theHord – Exactly.
I think you need to tell the whole tabloid/gossip industry, the paparazzi, and the celebs who have a symbiotic relationship with them.
@Becky, I don’t always see it as symbiotic. It’s sybiotic when arranged, but it stops being symbiotic the same second as somebody crosses that line. This goes both ways. You can have tabloids that try to tear down celebrities, and you can have celebrities that try to tear down tabloids (with lawsuits, even when they are reporting the truth).
Nanny, by symbiotic I meant those who use and accept them (even if they don’t like them) for publicity purposes.
In respect to a section of the celebs (down the scale the D list) who use paps for publicity, those on the way up who accept it as publicity (see Tom 3 or 4 yrs ago), those high profile celebs who also accept it as part of the job, and probably use paps for profile (Clooney, Jolie), those who are obvious with them and use them, as well as accepting they will get papped (Swift).
Then there’s those who have complete dissonance, date and marry the biggest famewhore on the planet and still complain and get nasty with paps (Kanye West).
That said I agree, they can be downright nasty. The story that Keira Knightly told about the abuse she got from paps when she became well known was horrible.
You can speculate, but you can’t be sure what the deals (if there are any) between the celebrities you named and the tabloids are. People are projecting onto celebrities their own feelings about them.
As for Kanye, no matter how fame-hungry Kim is, she has the right to privacy when she wants to be left alone, and just becase Kanye married her, he himself didn’t give anyone permission to go after him. Just like letting yourself be papped once does not mean it’s a permanent consent to being photographed by tabloids or strangers.
I agree with the Hord here. Celebrities are people, they should be granted the same rights to privacy as we are.
The last pap pics of Taylor I can find are the 1st week of Jan, other than that she’s made the odd post on Instagram, she can avoid paps when she wants to, though there’s less demand as she’s not promoting anything atm.
As for the rest… yes people are entitled to privacy. BUT entertainment is a business and a lot of celebs accept pap photos as part of the job, they don’t have to like it or agree with it. No I don’t have proof that celebs set up pics with paps except from what I see and read (e.g. it’s rumoured Jolie uses photogs for publicity at times), but sometimes it’s plain obvious when a pap gets exclusive pics at the right time in remote place that obviously look set up.
With Kanye I had in mind that time he and Kim were papped, he got annoyed and he smacked his head on a lamppost. Notice how Kim or Taylor for that matter aren’t rude or miserable in front of photographers? Because they accept them as part of their job.
If you’ve read Lainey she comments on this regularly. And I was responding to TheHord’s post about accessing private fb pics – it’s not even comparable sorry.
I can find mid-February, gym pants, her fansite, and I didn’t search thoroughly. She is uninteresting ATM, tho, so yeah, I’m sure nobody is camping outside of her house like they did last summer. If she gets into another beef or is seen with another dude, we’ll have her pics of doing nothing on a daily basis again.
And I disagree with you that celebs have to agree with being papped because that’s “part of the job”. I personally think that only what they sign up to do is part of the job. So their acting, singing, modeling, even promotion with media, but only if they agreed to it. Everything beyond that is an invasion of privacy.
It’s a good point, though. I know a load of people who are not famous whose social media accounts have been stalked because they know someone who is famous, or unknown actors who struggle along doing fringe theatre and the occasional TV guest spot while working in a restaurant suddenly have to deal with a stalker because someone saw them in an episode of Holby City and developed a crush. And everyone says, “they asked for it” but where do you draw the line?
I read about some uber fan putting ribbons on Benedict Cumberbatchs house.
That sort of behaviour is totally out of order, putting myself in his shoes I would hate to have paps and stalkers knowing where I lived, and hanging around my street.
Accessing a private social media account is wrong, I think we’d all agree. I can’t see the comparison with that and a celeb getting papped leaving a club or an airport and demanding “privacy!”, when they’ll need the same photogs taking pics of them at their next premiere for publicity.
They don’t have control over paps, but they do have control over their reaction. See: Hugh Grant throwing a tupperware dish of baked beans at a photographer.
Also, that incident with Louis Tomlinson the other day; that involved a member of the public being instrusive.
There is a bit of a disconnect between celebs and the press, especially since the phone tapping business.
Hacked off spokesman Steve Coogan, who was on the wrong end of a Newspaper expose or two, claims its part of their contract to promote and publicise films and telly, but that doesn’t mean that having cameras shoved in their faces during their time off is part of the deal.
I do notice that Hugh Grant is hardly ever in the papers these days and I wonder if the media have decided to ignore him in a fit of pique or maybe it really doesn’t work that way.
I don’t really know where I stand on it to be honest. I enjoy looking at pap pics, especially unflattering ones, but I do believe kids and “civilian” spouses should be left alone. And hanging round peoples houses is wrong and creepy, do the stage door if you must but don’t harangue someone when they’re popping out for a pint of milk.
Fluff and I have talked privately about this a lot but I have three women following me on Twitter who comment on everything I tweet, send me novel-length DMs, trying to force an acquaintance simply because the wife of a minor TV actor they’re obsessed with is playing the lead in my current stage play. Those same women absolutely trash me behind my back on the one fansite the actor has. We all stopped following each other on social media and one of the women posted, “I’m not following spiderpig any more, looks like he’s dumped her as a friend so she is no longer of any use to me.” On a public forum! And this is someone who was massively sucking up to me for months.
Working behind the scenes I am not famous but I am sort of in the public eye, and journalism/blogging and social media are big parts of my job. It’s nothing I can’t handle but it is weird and slightly scary. A-listers have the resources but most of us are just trying to fumble through.
Urgh Spiderpig, they sound very weird and more than slightly scary.
I wonder how those sort of people functioned before the rise of social media ?
Maybe they sat at home writing poison pen letters.
Savannah Guthrie on TODAY just asked Tom about Swift. She got the and answer , but he was polite because of the way she asked the question.
Today is “bad TOM” day on CB. Except for the issues of the British class system[ heartbreaking and out of my area of expertise] nothing about the interview is that interesting. For those young people who think the Hiddleston-Swift romance is a scandal for the ages, please watch Ryan Murphy’s FUED. In the long history of Hollywood, that little fling barely registers.
Meant to say she got the same answer.
And she got a long, awkward silence before he gave her the same answer. Unless you’re nailing a political leader on some horrific violation of human rights or something, dead air like that is poor journalism. What the hell are interviewers expecting in response? An explicit retelling of any intimate moments complete with descriptions of private parts? A shouted rant about how horrible the other person is? A sobbing, mumbled declaration of heartbreak and undying love? A bitchy, catty listing of the other’s faults and bathroom habits?
It is over. Move on.
Lol Lightpurple…Although to be fair any of those answers would be gold, imagine TommyH moaning about Taytay’s dodgy bikini wax or her questionable grooming habits…I would totally be onboard with that sort of goss…
@Lightpurple
I think they’re trying to put him on the spot actually. Although not for some sort of lurid expose – at least not in the sense you mean.
I’m sure there are many people in the media who either know or at least suspect that the whole thing was a stupid (and highly embarrassing) publicity stunt and so they’re just trying to make TH squirm over it, with the added benefit that they get the clicks for doing so.
@Uh Huh, which makes me think even worse of them. Doubtful any of them would want that done to them and many of them have very messy relationship backgrounds.
I’m bored. Or he’s boring. He needs to do something ridiculous.
Interesting enough…I too am wearing that shade of maroon top and grey pants. Except, my shoes are brown (I don’t own grey shoes).
Tom cornered the supply of grey shoes – there are none left for the rest of us. 😀
That question and answer re Prince William has been asked and answered in the same way several times before in the past as have the questions about Eton. Haven’t journalists these days heard of originality?
The problem comes from both sides, doesn’t it? He keeps getting asked for his background. I understand the point of not toffsplaining. Although, had he ever answered these question without trying so hard not to offend anyone, maybe the journalists will lose interest and stop asking him.
I will say something nice. I like what he is wearing in the photo.
I think he has answered questions about Eton before. It must get a bit boring, Damian Lewis and Dominic West both went there too, and every interview with them mentions ‘old Etonian’ at least once.
It’s not that original but that’s journalists for you.
I still say every journalist that asks an actor, or anyone else for that matter, about their posh education should be required to post their own CV at the top of the article. I’d bet good money those same journalists that try to bait the poshy actors into saying something quotable about privilege have an equally privileged and elite education of their own.
That aside, it’s probably only the UK press that are asking. 99% of people in the US wouldn’t know what Eton was.
+1
No. Nor would US audiences care. It does not generate a response here.
I am curious about what the Uk schools cost [colleges, I mean] Here, an elite state school [for us, that means a public not private institution] would be a bargain at 20 to 25 thousand dollars a year. Our little girl went to the great COLLEGE OF WILLIAM & MARY [about 20,00} She had loans and worked 2 jobs. The school [private] where I teach is 38,000 a year. We have some that are more than 50,000 a year.
@ third ginger. Fees at Eton (boarding) are around £37,000 a year, The boarding School near where I live charges around £30,000 (boarding) a year.
University fees are are up to £9250 a year at the moment – that is just tuition, accommodation has to be found on top of that.
I don’t know about Eton, but Hiddleston said once he had to pay for RADA himself because his father didn’t support his career choice, and that today he wouldn’t be able to afford it because the prices went up so much.
Thanks, Spidey, for the information. It’s a ridiculous situation all around. I am torn on this issue as it relates to what the UK calls “posh actors”. Obviously, opportunities for those wanting to pursue a career in the arts have to be expanded, but as you wisely noted, asking a movie star again and again about where he went to school is not part of the solution.
Columbia or Smith are going to cost me upwards of $70K a year and I’m going. I’ll figure out how to pay for it later.
What would the Brits think of that.
Didn’t Kelly recently ask Tom about Eton, & then asked Tom if Prince William had also gone there? That mention definitely made it obvious Eton was for the rich. I wonder if Tom was one of the “lesser rich”, attending with the likes of royalty and all.
Hahaha hes too much! Why doesn’t he just make a joke or something, take the piss out of himself or something? That “i am private person” act just doesn’t work after the Taylor Swift fiasco.
Just watched Tom on Kelly. Low key, lovely, charming.
Just saw that. Some would really have to despise him [and some do] not to at least smile at him a little.
Oh come @thirdginger. Despise is a strong word, he is pretty harmless, just because you think hes everything doesn’t mean that everyone else is equally charmed or fascinated. We all have different taste you know. Personally i don’t think he is physically attractive but watching him navigate his way in hollywood is pretty entertaining (and so are his overprotective fans 😉 ).
Sorry. I’m pushing 65 and try to be very polite. My daughter warned me to stay off the internet and I think I will in the future.
That seems like a lot of insults for what I thought was a harmless remark.
@thirdginger, please stay.
I appreciate polite!
No need to leave @third ginger. Not everyone has the same opinion about everything. Being 65 is no big deal. At 38, I have lots of good friends in their 60’s and 70’s
@ Leah -Yes, everyone IS entitled to an opinion.
But some of us try to strike a balance between criticising him when he does daft things, which he does, and criticising him for smiling, wearing the same shoes, being enthusiastic, breathing, a some others do. 🙂
@ Beth – third ginger is just a spring chicken to me.
@ third ginger – don’t leave just because of the odd thoughtless comment. Someone on here, a few weeks ago threw some VERY nasty and totally inaccurate accusations at me but I refused to let it put me off because she is only one of many and I enjoy visiting the site. And we oldies have to stick together.
Just saw this comment you made
@thirdginger
I don’t think i said something insulting? At least that wasn’t my intention, i am sorry if you felt that it was insulting, my apologies.
Look all i am saying is that Tom isn’t despised, he might be mocked or made fun of or even critiqued, sometimes harshly. And that generally some people like that type of person whilst another likes someone else, theres never gonna be consensus on these things. Just like in real life we are attracted to different personalities ( thankfully i might add). Sometimes i think people overreact because think about it, hes just a stranger, a movie star yes, but none of us know him or will ever know him. Why would it matter to us what other people (whom we also don’t know) think about this or that stranger? Its not that serious. 🙂
I genuinely care when a tabloid’s vitriol (and then the readers join in) is so strong that it threatens the celebrity’s career and/or well being. And I think last year crossed that line for Hiddleston. The schadenfreude was palpable. What he definitely did was travel around with Taylor Swift and wear a silly tank top (a joke nobody wants to get). Everything else is speculation (whether it was real or not, whether they called the paps or not), but people treat is as truth and punish him for it. Sure he’ll live, but it tells a lot about how we treat information these days.
And how I think it hurts him: He was clear, even before his relationship to Taylor, that he was never in talks for Bond. After the tank top, everybody started saying this is what cost him the Bond role. Now, a year later, everybody forgot he was never in for Bond anyway, the media created this narrative that he was a serious candidate but lost due to his relationship with Swift. So while the truth is “he never tried to get that role”, most people hear “his personality cost him an important role”. Execs hear that to. And it’s not true. And it could hurt him professionally.
I haven’t watched it yet. But it’s recorded. Looking forward to watching it later
So I don’t say this to defend Tom, as it’s one of my general pet peeves with modern journalism, but using the word “testily” hits me as unnecessary and a way to drum up interest on an otherwise unexciting piece. Given that fiction writers are advised to avoid those sorts of descriptions in their writing, I feel like journalists should be held to the same standard.
What ever I thought about tom’s unfortunate behaviour last summer, I would think a great deal less of him now if he started talking about it.
Exactly, that would be the behavior of an indiscreet cad.
He has talked about it. Do you not remember the GQ article? Kaiser called it emptying his man purse.
He didn’t talk about it in the way I and Lightpurple mean, as in kiss a tell a la Ed Sheeran.
The word “Eton” doesn’t have much effect on me but then I’m American. I just know it’s where Prince William and Prince Harry went to school. It’s like the Princeton of British high schools? We have prestigious boarding schools in the US (mostly in the Northeast) so I kind of shrug when I hear Eton.
Also bursary is basically British financial aid? Like a grant or something?
That’s right Amelie.
Britain has three different types of school:
State (what the US call public school) which are free, most people go to state school.
Private, fee-paying. Same as private schools in the US.
Public schools are a type of private school. All public schools are private but only a tiny % of private schools are public. (They are called public because they are ancient – centuries old – and were the first schools that were open to the public, back when only kids of the very wealthy who had private tutors received an education). Public schools are insanely, insanely expensive (Eton is $40 thousand a year) and represents the aristocracy and the upper fringe of Britain. Going there basically guarantees you the best connections and jobs.
@Spiderpig, that may be the best, most concise explanation of the UK school system I’ve ever seen. I’ve been trying to wrap my American brain around the different terms for years. Thank you.
Chris Evans is actually the last person to be quizzing anyone about their relationship history.
when did chris evans quiz him about his relationship?
Evans tried to insinuate something between him and Brie but Tom wouldn’t play along.
Thanks Lightpurple. Just read the other article. I thought spidey meant captain America not the other Chris Evans. Lol.
@ lyla – haha there is a considerable difference between them isn’t there? 🙂
And let’s not forget that you also dumped out your purse to GQ just a short time ago and wouldn’t even let the GQ journalist get on her plane before you could get angsty while explaining all of your very private feelings.
Dumped out your purse….
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Everyone is entitled to a private life.”
Does your ex know that? Because there may be a big ol’ break up song about you on her next album.
She doesn’t ask permission; just sayin’.
There won’t be any “breakup song.” He wasn’t a blip on her radar screen.
🐍🐍
I think what he’s testy about is his need to keep up the appearance of being strictly hetero, which has gotta be getting tiresome. I just don’t believe the dude bats entirely for the girl team.
How can someone make self-deprecation sound so insincere?
I like that Tom never complains like some actors about the hardships on the job. Sam and Brie saying how hard the days were, all that running, the bugs and heat, the long days. I’m sure the days were hard, but the millions of dollars must make it easier to take. But no complaining from Tom. He talks about how lucky he was to film in such beautiful locations. How he enjoyed all the training so he would be in good physical shape. He seems grateful for his job as an actor.
When he sits down for an interview they go over what can and can’t be discussed. This whole ‘testily’ seems as fake as his relationship with Taylor. Guess he’s going to dine on not talking about his fakenship with Taylor for the duration. Hope this PR tactic doesn’t backfire on him like the last one.
@virginfan yes, it is actually refreshing. all the whining ugh like dude yoi got paid for it. That is your job, you took it, nobody forced you.
Hey folks, you will never believe it but the Daily Fail has managed to do an article about (mainly) Brie and tom and they haven’t mentioned the other women. Colour me shocked.
EU fortunately they have also printed another article all about this interview!
@spidey did you read the article about tom attending sheeran’s cincert. I am so jealous of both of them right now.
Yes I did milibli. Unfortunately at my advanced age I am not into modern music, but you never know, you may get to go to a concert one day.
Back to the idea of calling the paps – I bet Tom didn’t called them the other day when he went out for a coffee and a loaf in jogging bottoms with a hole in!
welll tom’s gonna be on Jimmy kimmel. I hope it would be better than the previous ones.
It makes me uncomfortable when people cite previous “public displays” to insinuate that they don’t have a right to keep their privacy now. Sure, Tom Hiddleston appeared in a lot of pictures while dating Taylor Swift, but that’s still his private life. He didn’t come out and talk about it everywhere willingly as if he was in some reality show. That argument is in the same line as saying that if a woman had sex with you before, then you should be entitled to have sex with her again. Ridiculous. His answer was super appropiate and on point. Just because he was in some pictures, and because Taylor Swift chooses to share about her private life, doesn’t mean he has to too, especially since they’ve been over for months.
@ana you just said it perfectly! kudos to you.
Big KONG Premier tonight on Hollywood Blvd. I won’t go anywhere near it but all of the news outlets will carry it…..also did anyone notice that Ed Sheeran went straight away to TSwifts apt the very next morning after Tom hung out with him the night before at his concert in NYC? Hmmmmm, wonder what was said. So much speculation that they are still seeing each other – he’d be crazy to do that. The press would mock him.
Let’s hope he does not show up in that monkey suit on Jimmy Kimmel Show Thursday night.
There could be lots of reasons to not reunite with an ex, but press mocking should not be one. I find it sad to imagine that a man would let the press keep him from a chance at love. He might have other reasons to not reunite, but I hope a mocking press is not one of them. But now that it’s clear Taylor is not good for his career, the “thirsty” comments might stop if they reunited.
Speaking of the Ed Sheeran concert, anyone else catch that BBC show that both Tom and Ed were on? Evidently during his segment, Ed talked about having played some of the tunes from his newly released album for Tom “last summer, when they were both in Rome.” ???
I’m pretty surprised more people haven’t latched on to that–Ed came along on the private plane to Rome? Maybe a bunch of friends (or squadmates for people who prefer that phrasing) thought it would be fun to go to Rome. Anyway, I just found that interesting.
I saw that as well.
And did you see Ed’s despicable kiss and tell story?
@spidey yes I did, ugh now I like him a lot less, I thought he wasn’t like leo caprio. ugh. Good thing I never spent money on him. I only downloaded his songs for free. hehehe…
tut, tut!!
Ty Burr, my favorite movie critic, has given a very positive review for the Monkey Movie. http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/2017/03/08/kong-skull-island-big-adventure/EgDcO23fXsVfjqESiIwGnO/story.html
has anyone seen the ragnarok photos? Loki in a bar, rip hair of thor. I just can’t wait for this movie. Also lol avengers meme about this so hilarious but true. 😀
I like the fact that Loki has a green drink. 🙂