Speculation about The Kaylor Breakup has been churning for months now. Even Jennifer Lawrence chimed in, wondering aloud what the hell happened between Karlie Kloss and Taylor Swift. For year, Tay and Karlie were BFFs. Even within the performative friendship Girl Squad, Karlie and Tay seemed “real,” like they were truly close, spent a lot of time together and told each other secrets. I’ve never been a 100% Kaylor Truther, in the sense that I don’t completely believe that they were secret girlfriends and their friendship-breakup was masking a romantic breakup. But many people believe that. What we did know for sure is that Swifty and Klossy did seem to be over, from all outside appearances. So this is… interesting…?
It’s the question all Americans, including Jennifer Lawrence, want answered: What’s going on with Taylor Swift and Karlie Kloss? In a new interview with the New York Times, Kloss cautioned us all against paying attention to gossip. “Don’t believe everything you read,” she said.
In the interview, which was mostly about her coding camp for teenage girls (“Kode With Klossy”), Kloss opened up ever-so-slightly about her personal life, telling Times reporter Caroline Tell that she and Swift remain friends, and that they “talk frequently.” She was more expressive when it came to discussing her friendship with Serena Williams, however. “Serena is one of the most extraordinary women on the planet,” she said. “She challenges the status quo in so many ways, and I learn from her constantly.”
But Kloss and Swift talk frequently! Don’t believe everything you read. Kloss straight-up refused to discuss her relationship with Josh Kushner, the Democrat brother of Jared Kushner. “My relationship has nothing to do with this interview,” she said. But … her friendships with Swift and Williams are relevant to the story? What kind of media training is Kloss getting? I am more confused about the state of her personal life than ever before.
Never before have I so needed Taylor Swift to perform her friendship more than right now. Is it possible that people have completely worked themselves into a tizzy over nothing, that Taylor truly did take a step back from being so everywhere, all the time, and that Tay and Karlie are still good friends? Sure. It’s possible. But how likely is it? If Karlie says they talk all the time and Karlie is still Swish-Swishing and hanging out with Katy Perry and seemingly not spending any time with Tay, what does it all mean?
Swish swish 🏀❤️ Love Advent ‘17 thank you @THELOVEMAGAZINE @kegrand pic.twitter.com/MNIwz5aczq
— Karlie Kloss (@karliekloss) January 1, 2018
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I definitely don’t think they’re as close as they were before. Just cordial. The way you might be with someone after a long term relationship ends.
They’re definitely not as close as they were before, and that was obvious way before Swift started playing at being private.
All of Taylor’s friendships very visibly went on the back burner after she got serious with Calvin Harris.
I hate that though – when women ditch their female friends as soon as they enter a relationship. I think it speaks volumes about the person.
With Calvin? That’s when she was partying it up though. I’d say her current beau put the brakes on her old friendships.
Could we stop outding them? Like, what’s the point of it? It is helping homophobic aholes, not LGBT community
You know, I kind of miss that summer of Taylor Cosplays Carrie Bradshaw! Where every day was a new fashion show on the sidewalks and all she did was hang out with friends and go to the gym. That was a fun summer! I also live in NYC and remember being like “dang I wish this pesky job didn’t get in the way of getting my Swift on.” and I’m not even her fan.
I miss this, too, including the mystery of what Taylor was doing at the gym in the first place, since she left looking exactly the same as she did when she went in.
lol when she went to the gym to change her outfit for her next pap walk!!!
sigh
missing 2014!!
What “evidence” is there to support a romantic relationship?
The video of them making out at a 1975 concert.
That video of them kissing was blurry af. I thought they COULD be kissing but they could have also been whispering in one another’s ears or any number of explanations. They were in a crowded concert and uptight, image-obsessed Taylor seems like the last person to make out with a woman in those circumstances.
If that is the only Kaylor “evidence” I’ll just chalk it up to delusional fan theory.
They were in a private section if I remember correctly and photos weren’t suppose to be taken. That night was suppose to be set up for Taylor and the lead singer of 1975’s relationship but that was scrapped the second after the footage dropped of her and Karlie. Calvin Harris appeared with Taylor soon after this event as well. Taylor had her other bffs at that event and acted nothing like how she acted with Karlie. Taylor has best friends and treats them no where close to how she treats Karlie.
Taylor being gay/bi and closeted makes more sense then her relationships being legit. You honestly believe 1989 was about her 3 week long relationship with Harry Styles?
I just find it really rude when people call theorizing that celebrities could be gay, delusional or insulting. First of all, why is being questioned on if one is gay so out of the realm and offensive? As long as people are commenting respectfully. I see people freaking out all the time, and I know it’s not the welfare of the celebrity that’s the reason. Taylor has not come out as gay/bi/pan/straight/etc (and she does not need to), so we are not sure of her orientation.
And honestly, if you look at that video, Taylor’s hand is on Karlie’s chest. They’re on top of each other. If Karlie had been a male celebrity, there would have been a million rumors that they were dating.
There are rumors about Ed and Taylor even though they have never acted close to romantic. The simple notion of “they were on tour together” is enough to convince people they hooked up. But Taylor and Karlie being all over each other is “totally just friends” behavior.
@red
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with theorizing someone is gay or bi because I don’t think there is anything wrong with being gay or bi. What I find delusional is the notion that these two have a years-long, secret relationship because they went on vacation and maybe, possibly kissed at a concert. The multitude of “evidence” just isn’t there. It’s like those Robsten creeps who insist Rob Pattinson and Kristen Stewart are secretly married with babies and completely ignore the other relationships those two have/had.
Keep telling yourself that’s the reason why. Rob Kristen stuff was stupid because there was zero evidence and it was based in racism. But theories existed for years before that Kristen was closeted and those turned out to be true.
Taylor and Karlies relationship has evidence of trips, kissing and recently Taylor’s entire album which was written in Sept 2016 about “secret relationship” none of the relationships she had since 2014 make sense for her album. Taylor’s MV have no male love interests in them as of recent, even delicate she just sees a bar full of women (a tall blonde woman in the back) and men.
@diligent
No need to be rude. You clearly believe in the relationship, and more power to you. If there’s actual evidence, I would love to see it. I’m not a child plugging my ears to facts, I just haven’t seen anything to support what you believe. I don’t believe Taylor’s albums are inspired by her 30-second relationships. I think she has a very romanticized view of what dating/being in love is, whether from crappy rom-coms or something she read in a book, and she goes from there.
The Robsten stuff started waaay before twigs. The cheating scandal was a fake to sell a movie and hide Kristen’s first pregnancy or their wedding. One of them would be spotted in a black tee shirt and then the next time the other was spotted in anything similar, there would be circles and arrows and tumblr posts about how they were still together and sharing clothes because “sharing is caring.” When Rob started dating twigs things took a nasty, disgusting turn with the creeps calling her things like “it” or “the business investment.” It was inexcusable but definitely not the beginning of the Robsten theories.
@Red: That concern is usually not about the idea that there’s anything wrong with being gay or bisexual though. It’s typically about the idea that people should be able to choose when, if, and how to come out. Plus, sometimes people make the mistake of assuming things about people’s sexual orientations based on stereotypes about how people are ‘supposed’ to act based on gender.
I don’t know about Taylor or Karlie or who they’re really into- I haven’t seen the video people are talking about. If they’re actually straight, they’ll still be seen as homophobic by some for not ‘coming out of the closet’.
There’s an entire tumblr dedicated to the evidence that’s pro “Kaylor.” Now with links! It’s called kaylor-evidence. I chanced on it through a link on a Lainey post and then spent like two hours on it. Two hours of my life. Yeah.
They were awfully touchy feely for best friends, I have a best girl friend that I know since I was in 8th grade, I’m now 25 and have hung out with her a big part of my life, went to clubs, parties, we’ve been very close for 11 years but I’ve never showed that much friendly affection to her or any other girl friend in my life. Holding hands, sure when I was 15,16 I held her hands but wasn’t Taylor 25 in 2014? Hugs, sure but not constantly. Whispering over the shoulder, trying to catch each other’s gaze, hip rubbing. I wouldn’t be surprise if 3-5 years from now, Taylor publicly announces she and Karlie dated. She never showed that much affection and closeness to any of her countless public boyfriends. There’s nothing wrong with falling in love with a woman, in 2014-2018 what’s the point of going through so much trouble to hide who you are.
No offense but the reason you don’t think its a big deal coming out in this day and age is probably because you’re straight and you don’t see the hate we see everyday. You don’t live it the way we do. Also Taylor probably has contractual reasons to stay in the closet for now. Her coming out doesn’t just affect her it affects a lot of people because it’s not just about her the business built around her.
Taylor seems the type to ditch her friends when she gets a boyfriend.
I have a feeling these two are still very much together. For a while I thought they had broke up and Taylor got with Joe but it really doesn’t seem that way anymore. This plus the fact they spent there “anniversary” together is pretty much confirmation to me.
100%
Friendships aren’t the same over time.
People actually change.
Why is Karlie being singled out..what happened to Selena Gomez,Bella, Carla or 20 of the other ‘friends’ she was collecting because in her little head that would leave Katy Perry friends if everyone was on her side. Middle School smh
Taylor gave Karlie her own room in her NYC penthouse. I don’t think Selena, Bella, Carla have this
Because Taylor made a big deal about it. They had a vogue cover, trips. Karlie used to have her own room in Taylors apartment. And even Taylor said Karlie convinced her to live in NYC when she was about to move to London.
I always thought one of the reasons Taylor and Karlie were close was that Taylor was trying to prove that she was just as model-esque as Karlie. by the same token, Karlie liked the association too. They do look quite a bit alike and may have just had a great deal in common too: youth, success, status, recognizability, fortunes.
Maybe they did flirt or make out, I just don’t think they’ve been in a closeted relationship this long. I think they were super , idealized friends at one point that has cooled to something more adult due to aging, circumstances, the new wearing off, all that kind of stuff.
I’d need more than a kiss or long term touchy feely friendship to believe the long term relationship thing. Also, I’m super touchy with my female friends/relatives. Maybe that’s why it seems normal to me.
Maybe these young women just haven’t learned the fine and important art of actually ending a friendship when it’s over. Maybe they don’t see each other, have resentments, aren’t good for each other but still need to cling on to being friends in name.
It’s a great thing to learn to kindly let go of people, for real and for good, when the friendship is over or is no longer healthy. The more I do it the more I realize it’s best for everyone. And it makes the true friendships in your life shine.
I went down a Tumblr black hole recently and I think I might be a gaylor/Kaylor truther. (No idea if they’re still together though.) It would seriously explain so much!
Oh! I’m with you! I was curious about that, and went down a rabbit hole with that. She definitely has a special relationship with Karlie and NOW…I think I get it. Yeah…I can see it.
Ahh me too! I’m not even a fan of either and I spent hours on the kaylor evidence tumblr.
YES. Same thing happened to me. It’s really very obvious ever since Reputation and when you look at everything, I think that TS is actively trying to make people think she is gay/bi through her music and videos/promos because she doesn’t want to do some big announcement (not that she should have to or ever have to come out or anything, but she seems to want to, just slowly). Plus she loves hints and clues and puzzles, so no matter what, this is how she’d do it, right? It’s a slow coming out. You get people talking and wondering until it’s not such a big deal when it does come to light.
The Dianna Agron stuff makes it even mote believable!!
Best of luck Tay – I hope you find the one and are happy 😊
I’ve never been into Taylor Swift, but this comment thread just sent me down a black hole of Kaylor conspiracy theories. *puts on tinfoil hat*
I didn’t interpret their other actions, hand holding, etc, in public as a romantic thing. Late teens/early 20-age female friends can be very touchy and clingy with each other, probably because they want the comfort and reassurance of physical affection without the danger of sexual complication.
I do wonder how Kloss gets a pass from the press while dating a Kushner brother given the obvious associations.
I think the article mentions that he’s a democrat? Maybe thats why.
Looking at the evidence as its built up, and the increasing frequency of this being talked about in gossip sites, its starting to feel a lot like the couple years leading up to Ellen Page or Kristen Stewart coming out. I bet in the next 3 years Taylor comes out as bisexual/queer/gay.