At this point, the Duchess of Cornwall just seems like a jolly old drunk. Maybe she’s more substantive than that, but my general vibe off Camilla is that she really doesn’t give a f–k about most things. She cares about Charles, of course, and she cares about her biological kids (Tom and Laura) and her grandchildren. But she doesn’t really care deeply about William and Harry – they were no-go for her for so long, and she’ll never be more than their father’s wife to Will and Harry. And that’s fine, as long as Camilla has her wine. So I never really believed the half-assed tabloid stories about how Camilla felt strongly – one way or the other – about Meghan Markle. Camilla isn’t paid to have opinions about such things, and I think she mostly just tries to get along with everybody. Well, as it turns out, Camilla did have some thoughts about Harry and Meghan’s wedding: she thought it was lovely.
Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall described Prince Harry and Meghan Markle’s royal wedding as “uplifting,” but admitted that even the royal family hadn’t been sure “what would happen next” in an apparent reference to the family drama that ensued in the days leading up to the ceremony.
During a visit to 5 News in London on Wednesday, Camilla told reporters: “It was such a lovely day. Just everything went right. We all wondered whatever would happen next and then everything went right…. It’s nice to have something that is uplifting rather than depressing. Everything was just perfect, including the weather, which couldn’t have been better. It was a beautiful day. The only thing is that we are all losing our voices now!”
I don’t think there’s any big conspiracy here. She enjoyed the wedding and she’s happy for her step-son and his new bride. She’s glad that they had such a lovely wedding and everything turned out okay, despite the bride’s family sketchiness. Now, is there a conspiracy about the rest of the family?
While Princess Charlotte took control during Prince Harry and Meghan Markle‘s wedding, her parents Prince William and Kate Middleton were happy to stay behind the scenes, but they let loose during the private evening reception.
“William was in a jokey, wonderful mood at the party,” a royal wedding guest tells PEOPLE of Harry’s best man and older brother. “He must have been relieved that it wasn’t all about him.” Kate, 36, liked seeing her two kids in the spotlight, though newborn Prince Louis stayed home on Saturday.
“She was [in] great form,” the wedding guest recalls. “She and William were saying how thrilled they were to have their children there taking part.” And of course, William, 35, felt elated to see his younger brother so happy as he tied the knot with Markle, 36. “He is so proud of his brother,” the attendee says.
See, this is the part of the story where I’m getting out my magnifying glass to read between the lines. I actually doubt – STRONGLY DOUBT – that William was relieved that there was an event that wasn’t all about him. William may be work-shy and contemptuous of his duty, but he doesn’t like being overshadowed by his (popular) younger brother. Ever. As for Kate… as I said before, literally my only complaint was the color of her coatdress. If she was out-of-it or not really paying attention to the wedding service or party, so be it. It hasn’t even been a month since she gave birth. In the longer term… well, I won’t forget how extra Kate was as soon as Harry and Meghan announced their engagement. Suddenly Kate truly knew the meaning of the word “keen.” Kate and William both have a healthy sense of competition, so it will be interesting in the months and years to come.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Backgrid and Pacific Coast News.
Maybe I’m nieve, but Will always seems to truly love and enjoy his brother. He smiles a lot and laughs when they are together. He is not like this with anyone else. Including his wife.
Kate is also cheery and smiley around Harry, always. It`s just what happens to the people around him.
I so much love seeing the brothers together. They seem to have such a normal relationship, it is refreshing.
+1 I am the first to resent William’s sense (por lack of sense) of duty, but I truly think he doesn’t like to be in the spotlight, he seems an awkward introvert. He is *not* good at chatting or making feel confortable like Harry, so being a best man is so much better for him.
And Kate always is positively joyful with Harry (not in a creepy, or weird way) it is just that Harry seems to be one of that kind of person that makes you feel good when you are around them…
I know W and K are not favourites here, but I think they were good con Harry’s wedding.
Yeah, I’m not really enjoying the current narrative of how much Will resents Harry. It feels contrived.
I disagree with your assessment, Kaiser. At the garden Party for Charles, when Camilla was saying her good-byes to Harry and Meghan, Harry kissed her on the cheek and rubbed and squeezed her arm/ shoulder. It looked very warm / affectionate to me and its always been said, that Harry+ William like Camilla. And I think she cares about them too.
Also Kate& William seemed to be genuinely happy for Harry. William was beaming and seemed very proud. Kate had a stoic face but thats british royalty for you- they wear masks.
I agree that Will loves his brother. Watching the wedding I noticed a handful of times that Will was looking at Harry with such pride and love on his face. Unless someone’s trying to say that Will is a great actor and putting on a show, nothing will convince me that he was anything other than truly happy for his brother.
I totally agree! And I thought William exuded nothing but positive, loving energy at the wedding. I felt like he was really attentive to Harry–he kept joking with him and giving him these soft, sidelong smiles.
Right? I mean, there are a lot of things to complain about in regards to William, but I definitely don’t think he resents Harry at all. If anything, he and Kate both seem a lot lighter and happier when Harry’s with them in public. This is fake news haha.
Then I’m naive too, because I see the same as you. I think with each other the brothers have a loving friend who truly understand one another and what they went through. I see that closeness when they’re together.
William and Harry lost their mother at a fairly young age. Sorry, I disagree I don’t think William is very competitive with Harry at all. I think they are truly loving brothers who unfortunately share a tragic bond too. The siblings I know who lost a parent at a young age are close. All the interactions we see with the two of them show loving brothers. I think there might be a bit of projections going on here, or maybe some are watching too much reality tv, like the Kardashian’s and their sibling rivalry. With William and Harry, I just don’t see it.
I do think Harry is much closer to Charles because Harry was younger than William when Diana died. I think William knew a lot more about his parent’s issues than Harry, and he sided more with Diana. Harry didn’t have to take a side. He was too young. Which also makes him more receptive to Camilla too. When Diana was married to Charles the whole Camilla thing was just gross, but now with age and time you are right Camilla is kind of a hoot. She generally makes me laugh, and I agree she cares for Charles’ sons, because they are Charles’ sons.
Absolutely. Only they know how it felt as children to lose their mother in such a horrific accident. Their bond can’t be broken, and those who would try would be fools. While Harry is the wild child and has pulled some stupid stunts, he seems to have finally grown up. I feel William watches over him and for those who try to say there is jealousy or any other nonsense doesn’t know how these men felt in 1997 walking behind their deceased mother. Camilla is a non-factor now. She makes their father happy and I’m sure that pleases the brothers.
They’re the only 2 people in the world who knows what it’s been like, losing their mother, public attention, all of it. I’m not surprised they seem close, and that’s good. I don’t see the need to pick it apart and make one of them seem jealous or resentful.
Same with their wives. Must they be constantly pitted against each other?
I get the feeling that Charles really likes Meghann and she enjoys his company so Camilla would be happy with that. If Charles has a good relationship with his daughter-in-law, he’ll get to spend time with any grandchildren.
I think so too. Possibly partly because I really want it to be true, but I can see them getting along and having similar interests and values in a lot of areas.
And if you want to be completely cynical about it, it would be a good idea for Meghan to cultivate a good relationship with Charles. He knows the family’s responsibilities inside out, could teach her a lot, and in a few years he’s going to be the one deciding what her role will be for the rest of her life.
They seem genuinely engaged in whatever conversations they’re having and seem to be enjoying the interaction. Granted, she’s an actress but he isn’t.
I’m with you Beluga, I really want H&M to have a close relationship with Charles so I’m hoping they do. It does seem that Harry has a warmer relationship with his father than William does and Meghan was touched by the amount of attention Charles paid to her mother, so here’s hoping that this closeness will continue.
This is true about Charles deciding what happens to the family. He has been saying a lot about limiting the lineage royal responsibility and financial assets, and he is definitely on to something. It’s going to get really more expensive for the tax payer when more children are born.
well, of all the royal family, Charles and Meghan have a lot in common with regard to their charitable interests. Charles, to give him his due, has been an environmentalist before it was cool to be one. And he was lovely to her on her wedding day when her own dad was being a dick and I’d remember things like that forever if it were me.
MTE, Des. I thought it was absolutely wonderful that he escorted her down part of the aisle. I don’t think he would have offered or agreed to do that if he even had a tiny dislike of her. I am doing a big photo assumption here, but I thought how they all interacted at the garden party earlier this week was quite telling. They all came across as warm and happy to see each other.
I can also see Harry and Meghan getting even closer to Charles if/when they have kids.
I do believe that William cares for his brother.
Same. Why wouldn’t he?
Yes, absolutely. And if there’s a bit of sibling rivalry, that’s only normal. It doesn’t just evaporate with age.
Who knows
I agree but with a caveat. I am going to go way out in left field to make my point. I was watching some type of animal show featuring birds the other day. This particular bird will only feed one of its chicks. So, if two are born, the chicks fight ala sumo wrestler style to try to throw each other out of the nest. I watched as the younger one that hatched a day after the first got pinned down and pecked almost to death. Eventually, it lost. Why that elaborate story?
I don’t doubt William cares for his brother and I’m sure he has stepped in a time or two to protect Harry, as most older siblings do. However, as the eldest and as someone who was raised to overly know his “worth”, I can see William not only trying to keep any younger sibling in his place but also bullying that sibling in words if not deeds.
I will say this. In terms of imagery, WK don’t look approachable, Harry and Meghan do. However, we all could be fooled in that Harry could be the bigger a$shole. Lol.
LOL, thanks for that uplifting story Honey. Now I’m worries about that baby bird. 😂
I see your point though.
I love nature perspectives. lol
I get your point and agree. They love each other but there is competition too.
Of course he does. I have no doubt they are really best friends. They were never able to trust many people. And their father… Well he’s trying. But don’t look close to Charles. Wills got surrogate family and he seems happy. His speech few days ago was beautiful. He skipped Charles’ party to work. That’s something new
Agreed. Like others have said they really only had each other. And by all accounts Will looked after harry after their mother passed. I feel like at the end you cannot fake the relationship they have. When they each got married the other was a stable force the entire day. Again that would be so hard to fake.
As for Kate I feel like she will get along fine with Meghan because she likes Harry. Will there be some competition? Maybe and I’m okay if it gets her working more.
Someone else mentioned wills speech in Manchester and I also found it to be quite nice.
For real, I don’t understand people worrying about Kate and Meg’s relationship. They are not required to become friends but if Kate feels like she had to up her game in terms of royal duties, it’s all fine by me.
We can say a lot of things about Wills & Kate. That they don’t care much about Harry and Harry’s happiness is not one of them, I don’t think.
Agree.
Both seemed very happy for Harry and Meghan. W&K will literally live in the spotlight, as will H&M going forward. They don’t need to steal anyone else’s thunder to do that. Further, both appeared very supportive every time the two couples have been photographed or filmed together like at Christmas and the Heads Together conference.
William looked really happy at the wedding. He was beaming. All smiles and the looked thrilled for his brother. And I don’t think that was just he glow of his bald head emanating from him — it genuinely seemed like the glow of brotherly love.
Lol, yes. He was clearly thrilled for Harry. I have no doubt.
Yeah, he seemed pretty happy for Harry. I also read that a ceremony lipreader had WIlliam turning to Harry to say something to the effect of, “We should stand when Doria walks in…” — it made me see him in a better light.
Did he? Aw, that’s sweet. The older married brother giving tips, that’s nice.
I read that too. It was kind and classy for him to say that. It speaks well of him to say and act that way when (he believed) no one was listening or would know.
I truly believe William understands how important Doria will be for Harry and his children.
Interesting perspective, Cee, I do believe you’re right.
That’s lovely — I think better of Will if he said that.
I think Will probably is the more introverted one with some sibling jealousy, but now with his brother married to a woman who is smart and ready to support Harry, maybe he realizes it is time to grow up and act kingly….or realizes Meghan will spot his rivalry and doesn’t want to be seen as a jerk. Plus he has his Middleton family and I do think Harry and Meghan now have a growing family bond with C&C…he has three kids….time to settle down, act supportive in mature brother life and grow up.
Agree. I was enjoying that William seemed to have a very supportive look while standing as best man next to Harry. Even after he sat down, as the ceremony went on. It looked and felt anyway as if William especially but also Kate were in full support and love for Harry and have no issues with Meghan. It was nice after all the years of press about calculating Middleton’s.
Will seemed happy and supportive that day. I thought Charles did too. However, some of the groom’s side looked bored and were often looking at their programs during the wedding. I wondered if Camilla or Kate could even see bc they were often looking straight ahead or down and their tilted hats seemed to block their line of vision (unless they turned).
I think they did that so the cameras would not focus on their reactions.
It was suggested elsewhere the BRF immediate members close to Harry all looked down because they were emotional for Harry. Tears in public would not do I guess.
Charlotte completely took over the bridesmaid role. It was hilarious seeing her survey the crowd matter-of-fact after the wedding as Kate held her hand. When Kate whispered something in her ear, Charlotte didn’t look up at her. She simply nodded assent like, yeah, right, and continued to look at the crowd.
DM reported that she was saying to her to look at the carige.
The picture of them with the boy who will be king shying away and his little sister surveying the crowd making sure everyone was bowing to her, just kills me.
I loathe this woman. She pretty much stalked Princess Diana and never gave the marriage a single chance. What a selfish wench. If she had any class she would have respectfully removed herself from their lives. Just the sight of her makes me aggravated. Him as well considering he was the person that WAS married.
You’ve got that backwards, stalking-wise.
I’m not Camilla’s biggest fan and I liked Diana but I think she acted as respectfully as she could after her tragic death. She seems to make Charles happy and if William and Harry who loved Diana more than anyone else in the world and suffered an unspeakable loss when she dies can accept Camilla, then I don’t see why complete strangers would not.
I agree. I think if William and Harry are – “over it” doesn’t seem like the right word, but that’s kind of where I am going – then I think everyone else should, too.
I’m not one to put Diana on a pedestal. The woman had some deep-seated emotional issues and both parties cheated in that marriage.
I disagree with Kaiser’s thinking on the relationship between William, Harry, Charles and Camilla as being not good. On the contrary, I think they all get along really well.
just the sight of her makes you aggravated? it’s been DECADES. everyone actually involved in this has moved on with their lives. if william and harry can be cordial to camilla, why do random folks still have such palpable anger towards her?
Come on. While there’s no denying cheating is bad, what happened to Diana and Charles’ marriage was the absurdity of monarchy. It was practically an arranged marriage (virginal aristocratic girl and a bachelor prince in need of a suitable wife), in a time when that just wasn’t done anymore in society. They had nothing in common, couldn’t be more different personality-wise, and Diana was put under immense pressure at an age where she should have been free to find herself.
Charles isn’t worse than any of the other royals, he was just part of an institution with a fucked up idea of marriage, virginity and suitability. Camilla was a symptom of the marriage troubles and lack of chemistry, even if she had never come along Diana would still have been deeply unhappy.
When Charles said the infamous words “whatever love means”, he wasn’t being cold, it was representative of what he had been taught. Love was just a possible bonus, his duty as the Prince of Wales was finding a woman who was untouched, no scandals or skeletons, upper class, good-looking etc. Unfortunately that backfired, but it wasn’t just Charles’ fault, you could also blame the Queen, Dianas father and everyone who encouraged the match.
You’re right Annie. The concept of such an arranged marriage seems bizarre now. And it was totally sold to us by the Palace as a ‘fairy tale’. Diana then wouldn’t follow the script….
At least their sons didn’t have a bride foisted on them.
I thought William looked completely happy and relaxed. When the two of them were walking to the church and smiling and joking…I got a little teary, thinking about all they have been through and what a joyful day it was.
Same for me. Although they are different, they have always been very united and it’s a beautiful thing to see.
Harry is the closest and most important family member to William and the same goes for Harry IMO.
Yes, I agree. I think sibling strength, love. and support is such a beautiful, wonderful thing. Those with it are truly blessed.
Yes, same here.
Same here. I thought of the moment they walked together at their mother’s funeral. Seeing them together at Harry’s wedding and both smiling so much was amazing.
Agree.
And I wonder if Will recalled missing his mother on his wedding day, and was therefore even more sensitive to Harry’s emotions, and supportive.
Yep, minx, same here. I was thinking how proud their mom would be, and how happy Charles must’ve felt to be there when their mother could not. Harry and Will both looked so handsome in their uniforms and were working the crowd like pros. It was sweet to see how close they really seem and how happy Will was for Harry.
Your comment made me wonder how old they were when princess Di passed away, so I googled “princess Diana funeral”, and when I saw the pictures tears were pouring down… They were so young, and going through that in front of the world… No wonder if they have a strong bond after that!
Me too Minx. I also thought they both looked sharp in their uniforms.
Camilla was expressing what everyone in the world felt too – as in, WTF will happen next in this drama the Markle family insists on playing out? She wasn’t being nasty, just open.
True.
This. 110%.
Agree. It was a soap opera from start to finish and everyone must have been relieved that the wedding went so well.
Yes, and after actually reading up on what Meghan’s half-siblings are up to I don’t blame her, her dad aside. Her half-brother and half-sister are being downright hateful and ugly, and hopefully will succeed only in making themselves look like hell.
Yup. It’s clear that she was being sarcastic.
I suppose she could have said it was a lovely day and left it that
William loves Harry, that’s clear for me. To be honest I’m relieved that wedding is over the whole Chelsy thing is over. I love celebitchy but the OTT comments on their love etc while dissing others were unpleasant to read. (others like chelsy, cressida not the trashy Meghan’s sister). I’m happy that Kate repeated the dress, let’s give her some kudos, she seems really happy as a step ford wife. No need to put down Kate, Chelsy to make Meghan look better. *rant over*
I hear you. And agree.
Spot on Kaiser. And I too think she really over stepped with that color. She knows better.
The dress had been worn about three times before and is yellow. I think she did know better and she did better.
Agree to disagree , I’m sure. I haven’t seen a huge furor over it elsewhere so I think most others aren’t seeing the problem.
One of my best friends got married recently. It was a mixed-faith wedding and her sister-in-law to be chose a very red number which is usually a colour reserved for the bride. While I was totally aghast my friend was not bothered, and had helped her sister-in-law choose the outfit, and I realised if the bride doesn’t care who are we to care? This on top of the fact the outfit was Y E L L O W. Grrrrr
IF the dress has been worn before, it is definitely cream/off white. maybe a darker cream than we thought, but it has always been described as off white or even white sometimes by every Kate fashion site out there.
The new theory from those sites is that it is a completely new dress in a shade of pale yellow.
The dress, if it is the same one she wore before, has only ever been described as white, ivory or cream before last weekend, never yellow. And she was definitely a white dress she wore underneath. Frankly, she could have chosen better.
I agree, if it’s an old outfit, it’s cream or off-white.
Also, if it’s new, why choose to do a dupe from such a photographed moment as Charlotte’s christening? It’s a little weird.
Ultimately though, these are very minor things. If there is something, we’ll find out eventually.
On TV, Kate’s outfit was clearly yellow, not cream or beige & Meghan’s veil was pink. Most of the still photos show noticeably lightened colors. Kate looked fine.
Chelsy’s dress was too short, Oprah’s was too tight, and the old Duchess of Kent got off the bus wearing white sneakers.
Do other people have to be brought in to take attention off of Kate being a topic? Before it was Kim Kardashian ALL the time.
If it’s an old outfit, prior to this it wasn’t described as yellow the other times she wore it. That is a fact. If it’s new, she copied the look from the christening outfit. That is also a fact. If people think that’s okay, nothing wrong with that. I think it’s weird. Different opinions.
Judging from the professional photos, everyone was coordinated…the room even had a touch of green! For goodness sakes, I’m sure Kate’s coat was pre-approved. Jeesh. Give it a rest.
This. Of course it’s coordinated. And that includes Doria’s outfit.
I’m quite surprised people believe the top royals just grab something random in their closet the morning of the wedding.
The room is actually called The Green Drawing Room. It’s an antechamber to the Throne Room in the palace. ” The walls are lined with green and gold silk, accompanied with white and gold plasterwork”
It would take weeks to properly view all the rooms in Buckingham Palace.
The room is at Windsor, not Buckingham Palace.
Facts, people
Agree I judged her before on the color of the dress and i take i back after i saw the pictures.
it doesn’t remotely look like a wedding dress, though. I mean, she’s showing her legs, which royal brides don’t do, not even the ones over 40. And she’s wearing a hat. There’s no way anyone would be able to confuse her with the bride. Like, you can definitely tell she’s not the one getting married. I assume she wore this particular outfit because everyone thought her outfit at Pippa’s wedding was the ugliest thing ever.
if she flashed her leopard print knickers under a slit dress that went all the way up to the private area like Elizabeth Hurley once did at someone’s wedding, I’d see how she was being self-absorbed. But not in this instance where she kind of fades into the background with the other moms holding their kids’ hands. I don’t know if it’s because Jessica Mulroney wore a startlingly purple dress, but Kate seemed to blur into the background with the other moms.
“she wore this particular outfit because everyone thought her outfit at Pippa’s wedding was the ugliest thing ever.” Well, to be fair…..
I don’t think Kate looked bridal at all. AT ALL. If anything her color seemed to blend into the background with the other pastels. I don’t think it’s possible to “pull focus” from a bride unless you’re wearing a bikini, but, okay, bolder colors like Amal’s or The Purple Lady stood out more than a faded yellow/cream. Even Camilla’s hat was more attention getting.
Purple lady was Jessica Mulroney…it looked more blue to me, but her husband, Ben said she was giving her best “Pippa” going up the steps to the church. Those two are soooo gross…
Jessica Mulroney did seem to sashay (spelling?) up the stairs. I thought Pippa was more subtle (she walked like a normal person).
Jessica Mulroney’s dress was actually royal blue. I loved it. It was a gorgeous color and fit beautifully. For some reason the harpies who post on the Daily Mail are tearing her apart. I have no idea why. She seems harmless enough to me.
Misha Nonoo wore ALL WHITE. Her outfit looked a bit bridal, and I’m sure Meghan didn’t care, so give it a rest.
Yeah I get the vibe that Camilla likes Meghan. Watching them at the garden party where they all cracked up with the bee – something about that moment was very warm and natural. It’s nice to see Charles and Camilla a little less stiff when in public.
I also think Camilla is aware that the wedding made Charles look good, and she is probably happy about that (not in a malicious way, just in….she loves Charles and loves when he gets good press.)
I think William and Harry are very close and I really believe William was happy for him. I’m actually more annoyed at the source – “William was relieved the event wasn’t all about him” – like…..something about that pulls focus back to William. “oh I am having such a good time, just a regular guest, its so nice to not be constantly in the spotlight since I am the future king!!!” I don’t think William was acting that way to be honest – but the quote gives that vibe to me. I think the quote was trying to put William in a good light and it fell flat for me.
I also think in a dorky way that William seems like a fun wedding guest. Dad dancing, karaoke (was it at Zara’s wedding he apparently sang Living on a Prayer?) etc.
Oh, I WANTto see that video of William singing “Living on a prayer”…
I don’t believe William was jealous of Harry getting more attention at his own wedding reception.
I think he sang it with Taylor Swift.
You did hear about the Harry, Will, and Charles dance-off that James Corden set up, I hope. All three men participated with good spirit. I heard about that and felt like at last, the long trauma and trials between them are over. Fresh slate now.
This is why I like Camilla – she’s always good with a sound bite that feels a bit revealing but is ultimately harmless. A good quality for the wife of a future king. Also, she knows how to wear big hats and big jewelry.
I also read she is very down to earth and actually quite funny. Last week on Graham Norton in the UK a comedian said she was talking to Camilla about something she was in the process of writing with a little “girl on girl action” and Camilla replied really dryly “we all like a bit of that don’t we.”
Camilla, you minx!
Phoebe Waller-Bridge said that.
Yes, she does. And despite Kaiser thinking she’s wine soaked and doesn’t give a shit, I disagree. She champions literacy, and hosts writing competitions. She doesn’t like payday loans. She works with domestic abuse survivors, and cries when she hears their stories. She also had the idea for those toiletry supplies given to rape victims to use when they first shower — as she heard that most victims could hardly wait to shower and get everything off them. So she might enjoy her wine, but she’s done some good — and done it while dealing with health issues of her own — and shown some empathy for people which is more than you can say for some in the royal family.
Well said, bluhare. I get so tired of the anti Camilla narrative. She is by all accounts very hands on with all the causes she supports and has been said to go out of her way to help in whatever way she can.
I have a lot of time for her and I think she’ll be a good, supportive friend to Meghan.
+1
Yeah…I follow some of the royal photographers on Twitter and they love Camilla and find her very likeable and easy to deal with on tours, etc. Unlike some of the other royals for sure.
She looks like a right laugh and I bet she pours a very strong G&T.
I never thought that way about William. They seem like normal brothers. Maybe because I have siblings and we have a good relationship, but him being jealous of his brother seems way too dramatic.
Kate was wrong for wearing that color but it’s Kate, she’s self absorbed.
William likes Harry but the whole deep brotherly love? Yeah don’t see it.
He will be back to tossing his little brother under the bus as well as his new sister in law soon to put them in their place.
Harry’s always been closer to Charles than William.
The brothers love their father’s woman on the side turned wife. She’s like a mother to them. She will be apart of Harry’s kids life as their grandmother.
So William does not love his brother and the brothers love Camilla like their mother. Yeah, right. I think they like her and love the fact she makes their father happy but the rest sounds like fanfiction.
William doesn’t love Harry or his father. Harry doesn’t love William but loves his father. Charles loves both but Harry has his heart and support thus the two are planning a coup wherein Harry gets the Crown after Charles. The monarchy is saved!!
In the aftermath, W&K change their last name to Middleton, move to Berkshire, and start a Gofundme, except they have Pippa do it because they are too lazy.
Oh, and Chelsy Davy becomes a modern day Miss Havisham. She is seen in London wearing the same dress she wore to the wedding as it becomes increasingly threadbare and shorter *clutches pearls*. She is heard mumbling, “It could have been me” until The New Royal family has her banished to the tower.
Doria Ragland says becomes fed up with all the b.s. and opens a world renowned clinic in California. Independently wealthy, she often is seen jetting to and from London to great aclaim.
Carol Middleton plain ole dies from disappointment.
Michael Middleton marries Fergie!
*I think I could pitch this for a series. Suggestions?
@Tulip Garden
Don’t stop here. I wanna know what happens next. Does Charles figure out that he has feeling for Doria. Does it put a strain on Meghan & Harry’s relationship now that they are step siblings? Does Kate finally give up skirts and trousers altogether to live her life in her underwears? Does Will plot to murder the little brother he always secretly hated?
I NEED TO KNOW
@Tulip Garden LOL. I’m crying and want more.
Ha! Long live Fergie!
Tulip Garden — more more more!!!! I love it and by god, it is plausible!!!!!
Queen Fergie — it has a ring to it. The psychic was right!
Slightly off topic, the daily mail has an article that the queens advisor will be helping Meghan for six months….I wonder if this is partly because, as Camilla said, they wondered what would come next?
I think the queen gave Diana one of her ladies-in-waiting when she first got married to help her settle in and maybe this is similar?
Yes, I thought that would be a story here today! hmmm…very modern Meg getting the Queen’s former private secretary. Should be interesting…
I would be delighted to have someone experienced help me out for the first 6 months at any job. I see no story here.
I think they are trying to make sure Meghan gets off to a good start as a royal spouse. She seems keen to embrace royal duties. Diana was thrown in at the deep end and expected to learn on the job while Kate was allowed to sit back and do very little so I imagine they don’t want to make the same mistakes with Meghan.
Samantha Cohen is temporarily replacing Edward Lane Fox, Harry’s outgoing private secretary, so she is working for both the Duke and Duchess.
I hoped that Cohen would replace Lord Geidt, the Queen’s private secretary, after he was ousted by Charles and was disappointed when it was reported that she resigned too. Looks like a place was found for her at KP, and to this I say, “well played QEII, well played.”
I don’t think she’s actually helping Meghan specifically, though I’m sure she’ll be a great resource for her. This is the woman previously announced to be temporarily taking over for Ed Lane Fox (as they find a replacement for him) on their staff.
I feel like Camilla would be HELLA fun to drink some G&Ts with.
Totally! She has very interesting stories to tell
Yes! Camilla seems like a hell of a lot of fun. I have thought this for a long time. I’d party with her for sure.
Yes, they all acted badly… can people just move on?? Apparently not.
People should be angry at the ridiculous ancient protocol, not the people who suffered and acted out because of it.
And the BRF appears to have learned some lessons from that hideous debacle, so what the hell is the problem? The affection between Harry and Camilla appears genuine.
Diana confided in Will (unfortunately) so that MIGHT be a different story. Even so, I think even he has moved past most of that stuff.
What will happen next? Well, as long as Harry hasn’t been having an affair for years with a married woman I assume they will stay married and live HEA. But I guess he could be like his Dad, Cammie…
I am not a Kate fan, but I think she went out of her way at both her sister’s wedding and this one to be out of the spotlight as much as possible so as not to detract from the bride. her dress for this was a repeat and so incredibly bland. It was yellow, that it didn’t photograph yellow at all times isn’t a big deal. I give her a pass on this one.
This! Her whole looked was bland and she knew it so kudos to her. Maybe the colour was also meant to be bland, after all she’s stand out more in red blue..
I agree, and she was even herding the kiddos around. I rarely compliment her but at this point I see nothing to shame her about with regard to the wedding.
I’m pretty sure they have a bond just by virtue of what they went through after Diana’s death. A lot of people lose their mothers at young ages, but nobody has to have the world watching their every movement like they had to deal with during the walk-abouts and televised funeral. Also, the manner in which they lost their mother was unusual. They were also stuck in the weird position of comforting the British public while they themselves were grieving as children. I imagine that would cement an understanding with each other no matter what.
Yes, agree 100%. I also believe both William and Harry still suffer some anxiety at times in large crowds due to the day of their mother’s funeral.
To this day I don’t understand why it was considered acceptable to send a 12 year old and a 15 year old out to shake hands with the public right after their mother had died. I’m a little younger than them and I remember at the time talking to my mother about how weird it was that they had been asked to do that.
My connected London friend said about it, “This is how the royals differ from you and I, this is how they must lay their heads and hearts on the block.”
Maybe he was right, but I still think it was an absolutely horrific thing to ask of two shocked and grieving children.
I agree. I think the royals sent those kids out to boost their image and I think it has had lasting repercussions on what the brothers think about royal life and royal duty.
William and Harry get along much better than Charles and Andrew because Harry has known his place since he was a child. They don’t hate each other, but if Harry ever challenged William on anything they probably wouldn’t be as friendly. For a similar reason that is why William likes Kate. She doesn’t rock the boat and contradict him. It’s also why he and Charles aren’t always friendly because Charles pulls rank and William doesn’t like that.
The BRF isn’t a normal family and it has little to do with Diana’s death. You don’t grow up with massive privilege and unchecked entitlement for generations without being messed up in some way.
“William and Harry get along much better than Charles and Andrew because Harry has known his place since he was a child. ”
Andrew hangs out with weird people. I would assume that’s one of the reasons Charles doesn’t like him much, aside from other reasons. Honestly, I wouldn’t like Andrew either. He’s a weirdo.
Both William and Harry, and even Charles, have normal human faults that I think even regular people are capable of having. Andrew’s faults are downright embarrassing. If Charles doesn’t get along with Andrew, I think that’s because he does unsavoury things that could cause a lot of damage to the royal family if his dealings were spoken about frequently .Andrew is a whole other different level of oddness. Since the Queen loves Andrew so much, I think he gets a certain level of protection. But I don’t think anyone with normal thinking capacity would want to get along with Andrew.
They wouldn’t be the first siblings to have issues with placement in the family and compound that as one being the heir and one the spare.
My husband is the total big brother and all it encompasses especially watching out for his siblings; his little brother has assumed the role of spendthrift. It was all well and good when they were kids, but now that they are adults with families of their own it’s really cracking. My husband rebelled against his dad and struck out on his own while mu in-laws bailed little brother out constantly and now the stakes are getting ugly. It’s all too typical family dynamics and sad because the siblings are barely speaking when they used to be so close.
This wedding shows more than anything, you can pick your friends, you just can’t pick your family.
After almost a week, I’m still seeing the wedding videos and it had never happened to me before. This marriage had something magical, special. Harry and Meghan seem to come out directly from a fairytale and how much they love each other! I’m so in love with them.
I am the same way! Anything that has to do with this wedding…I watch it. I don’t know what it is…maybe the love between the two of them.
Rumors like this whether they are true or not just prove that pretty much ever family, royal or otherwise, can have hinky dynamics. I’m just going to ignore the rumors and enjoy the view: Harry and William together, Meghan and Harry, and especially those adorable kids.
My personal feelings are if Harry and Meg tow the royal line, all will be well. If they don’t, I can absolutely see Charles and William getting testy. You can still love your family very much, even if they get on your last nerve.
This William resents Harry narrative seems like projecting. It’s “Fake News.”
Just stopped by to say I have no opinion on Camellia, but the photograph of the wedding party and family is lovely. It a gorgeous photograph and so well staged in terms of composition and color.
The queen always looks amazing, but here especially loved the way she coordinated colors with the mother of the bride.
yes it was a nice touch.
I feel like the wedding brought out the best in everyone in Harry’s family!!!
I agree! It was really nice to see.
Of course the brothers love each other. It’s normal and it showed there for all to see. Of course it was a mess of a situation that of Meghan’s family but not her fault and even at the last minute I was wondering too what more they had for her.
What stood out for me, was that everybody was looking straight ahead and only the fiance of Eugine and the Eduart were actively looking at the bride and groom. Nobody else. Maybe there is an explanation there but still….I do that (not actively looking at something happening) to send the message that I don’t care at all. My take is that these people are fed up with all these ceremonies they participate and they just go through the motions. Same for this wedding as most of the ceremony was out of their eyes and ears.
As for Kate she sure knows how to blend and disappear in the background. She didn’t seem to enjoy one single moment. Didn’t care about her dress but she has her style so no surprises. But all in all it was good. She took care of the children and didn’t make any scenes to distract from the bride.
As someone who has seen a church wedding or 2, usually the bride and groom stand so far away and with their backs to everyone that it doesnt make much sense to intently keep staring at them for the whole ceremony 😀
It does not mean anything.
Taxi – bit of a cruel comment from you. The “old” Duchess of Kent – no need for the “old” as she is the only Duchess of Kent – was wearing “sneakers” to help her balance. Maybe one day you will understand.
I think that both William and Harry’s choice of partner was significantly influenced by their parents divorce and Diana’s death. William chose someone that appears to have been raised in a very traditional, close knit nuclear family. He has gravitated towards the Middleton’s because they may represent the family dynamic he feels was missing from his own childhood.
Harry chose a partner that is from a family situation more similar to his own. Meghan’s parents divorced when she was young and she had a complicated relationship with the rest of the Markle’s and seemed to be somewhat removed from the Ragland’s after the grandmother passed away. Her situation probably felt familiar in some ways. She also has a lifetime of experience navigating complicated family relationships. Her experiences have possibly taught her the value of having strong connections with your future children’s grandparents. Thomas Markle isn’t going to be a grandfather and father-in-law like Mike Middleton. Doria will be on the other side of the world most of the time, unless she moves to London at some point. The only grandparents Harry and Meghan’s children may have regular contact with are Charles and Camilla. Meghan is wise to foster a strong relationship with them. Not only for the future grandchildren, but also for the protection and influence that being in Charles’ good graces can provide.
I couldn’t have said it any better ZigZags.
The brothers love and trust each other. Their bond is pretty unique.
Oops. Double post.
Apparently, Kate fans would rather say that they were wrong THREE TIMES rather than say that Kate is wrong even once. That’s scary!
You really need to google “fanatic personality disorder.”