Editors of The Sun, the Daily Mail, the Daily Mirror, The Times, whatever: I AM BEGGING YOU. Please stop taking Thomas Markle’s calls. Stop calling him as well. There is literally no point to any of this. He’s a pathetic man who thinks he’s important. He’s already cashed in on his daughter multiple times over the course of five months. He’s just talking and talking because you’re listening to him. And the only reason you’re listening to him is to embarrass his daughter.
So, obviously, Thomas Markle spoke to the Daily Mail. Again. He gave them an in-depth interview where he basically insinuated that his African-American daughter is “uppity.” He tries to give everyone a lecture on the late Princess Diana. He mocks his daughter and begs her to pay attention to him and guilt-trips her about how he’s probably going to die soon and then he criticizes her for her “sense of superiority.”
He thinks he’ll be dead soon, guilt trip: “It’s lucky I’m still alive. The men in my family rarely live over 80 so I’d be surprised if I had another ten years. I could die tomorrow. It wouldn’t be so bad. I have something of a Buddhist philosophy about death. Perhaps it would be easier for Meghan if I died. Everybody would be filled with sympathy for her. But I hope we reconcile. I’d hate to die without speaking to Meghan again.”
He won’t be silenced: “I tell you, I’ve just about reached my limit with Meghan and the Royal Family. They want me to be silent, they want me to just go away. But I won’t be silenced. I refuse to stay quiet. What riles me is Meghan’s sense of superiority. She’d be nothing without me. I made her the Duchess she is today. Everything that Meghan is, I made her.”
He has an issue with Doria now: “Oh, she’s a mummy’s girl now and Doria gets a lot of the credit. But Meghan seems to have forgotten that she lived with me up until Doria and I divorced, when she was six, and even then I was still a big part of her life. Whenever she finished school, I was the one who picked her up because I didn’t have to be at the studios until late and would then work until midnight. When Meghan was 11, she moved back in with me up until she was 17 and went to college. I was having my good years then, making good money, and could afford to give her the best, with a good school, good education, good home. She became the woman that she is today thanks to everything I did for her. And did I get any recognition for it? Any thanks? She doesn’t even speak to me now. How cold is that?’
Whether he lied about having a heart attack: “It’s disgusting they said I didn’t have a heart attack. Hospitals are bound by confidentiality laws and when you check in you can say you don’t want your name on their records if anyone calls in to ask.”
Then he brings up Princess Diana: “They [the Royal Family] have Meghan treating her father in a way that Harry’s mother, Princess Diana, would have loathed. That’s not what Diana stood for. Princess Diana is credited with changing the Royal Family, but she wasn’t perfect. She was still very much one of them. I think Meghan’s the one who’ll bring them into the 21st Century, if they’ll let her.”
Again a criticism of Doria: “Meghan got her attitude from her mother. Doria always told Meghan: ‘If they’re not doing anything for you, why should you do anything for them?’ I like to think that a little kindness goes a long way. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. A kind word goes a long way. Meghan’s been an actress for long enough: she’s had to deal with fans, to know that treating them with kindness is best.”
One, Meghan lived with her mother after Thomas and Doria divorced. Meghan saw her dad somewhat regularly, but to be clear: Doria raised her. Doria is the one Meghan is close to. Doria is the one who never sold her out. Doria is the one who supports her unconditionally. And that’s why Thomas is including Doria in his criticisms now too: it’s some next-level divorced-parents bulls–t where he’s still pissed off that Doria and Meghan are so close.
As for the rest of it… this man needs to take Diana’s name out of his mouth. Is Thomas Markle really this f–king stupid? I’m really asking. Does he think he can just talk sh-t about his daughter, his ex-wife, his son-in-law’s dearly beloved late mother and then suddenly everyone has to forgive him and bring him into the fold? He’s a toxic narcissist and I hope Meghan and Harry never speak to him again.
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What a vile, vile man. My father would have cut his arm off with a butter knife before he would have ever treated me this way. I feel so sorry for her that she doesn’t have that. He is just a disgusting piece of flaming human garbage.
To say that he MADE her??? That she’d be NOTHING/ NOWHERE without him?? Straight out abuser language right there! For a father to insinuate these things, and basically say she OWES HIM because HE paid for her schooling, from “private kindergarten through college” … well buddy, that’s what parents DO! Small kids don’t ask to be born, let alone sent to private school. That’s YOUR choice. Just as it was your choice to listen to your psycho daughter, Vonnie, and start blabbing to any and all, denigrating your other daughter.
Kay, my father, too, would do literally ANY/EVERYTHING in his power and beyond not to hurt me. This is SO beyond my comprehension!
This sad excuse of skin is a major A$$wipe!
I was just checking in to say the exact thing but you said it perfectly. Classic ABUSER statement. I hope no one takes this piece of trash seriously.
Preach it!!! I just hope she’s tuning him out as much as possible and enjoying being married. What kind of an asshat would try to spoil his daughter’s newlywed time because he isn’t getting the attention he feels he’s entitled to? I know toddlers with a better grasp on empathy.
Textbook abuser. Not to mention that the only example he gives for having “made” her is…picking her up from school? And that she lived with him briefly? Parenting. He’s literally describing parenting. He’s the POS dad who describes having to care for his own children as babysitting.
My dad drove 7 hrs round trip to fix my car to save me $$$$$$ on a huge repair (mechanic dads are the best <3) when I was driving home from vacation. All he asked for was could he eat supper before he followed me back home and I had to talk him into letting me buy his supper. I can't imagine having the kind of father Meghan has. My heart totally breaks for her. Makes me appreciate my dad even more than I already do!
Complete abuser. Every bit. And what an absolute idiot. Meghan is only asking him to not expose her to the media for his personal profit. Aka sell her out. And he acts like not only will he not stop, but how dare she expect her father to not share with the world for money what his daughter confides to him as her father.
Ugh
Totally agree Kay. This honestly makes me sick to my stomach. I cannot understand how someone could treat their own child this way. Meghan must be heartbroken and I feel so sorry that she has to deal with this cruel, disgusting man.
At this point, she’s more likely disgusted, annoyed and pissed off. She’s had years of this guy’s crap and she looks too smart to give a shit anymore. And he’s just ridiculous. That statement about he’s just about reached his limit? BFD. Who cares and what’s he plan to do about it? All he can do is keep running that mouth, and pretty soon nobody will care. He’s the Billy Carter of the monarchy.
Sounds like a mess. I feel bad for Meghan – such a mess! And there isn’t much she can really do. The longer she stays silent and distant, the more he unloads in the press.
My parents would never betray me like this either. I can’t comprehend the pain of having a parent be so disloyal and for Meghan to have to deal with this in full public view with the UK media enabling it shows how strong she is.
Honestly I can see my father doing this if I was in Meghan’s place (ha!) and he was in Tom’s.
Why can’t he go back to being a recluse in a camper in Mexico?
Yeah I remember back at the beginning of all this and that “recluse” story. I felt a bit badly for him as I figured he had some social anxiety/other issues and that the attention would be hard for him.
HAHAHAHAHA! Not so much. He practically breaths the attention. Vile.
I will say those of the public or media who feel this is a “huge” embarrassment for the royal family are either too young or have selective memory for the 1990s. Tampon-gate anyone? I feel for Meghan, but royal scandal-wise this isn’t even top 20.
AND Margaret’s boy-toy affairs/drinking, etc….
AND Philip with his many picadillos, incl. that “Gentleman’s Club” he frequented in the 60s, with that Dr. who was implicated in the Purfumo Spy case, as well as his many “foot-in-mouth” gaffes and racial gaffes…
AND Pedo Andy with Jeffrey Epstein, his serious relationship with Koo Stark (who was considered a soft-porn star back then)…
AND Sarah getting her toes sucked in pics by her “financial advisor”, selling “access” to Pedo Andy for a cash deal for herself…
AND Sophie selling RF access…
This list goes on and on… Yeah, while TM is a vile excuse for a human being, this isn’t much in the scheme of things for the Windsor-Mountbattens.
Jan
Please leave Sarah out of this. She was set up and she is paying the price, her kids are paying the price of silly mistake.
Imo BRF is using this to distract people from shady stories about pc and pa. Also, it gives an illusion of freedom of the press. Harry made a mistake with the press and they are after him, and they know what hurts: attacks on his mum and his wife.
No one knows the whole story. But this doesn’t even realize that he sounds like a monster. As much as the press want to play with him, he will never come near the royals, ever. BTW he didn’t say anything new. Same old same old. At this point, all Meg should do is keep quiet. Yes, it’s her father, but there’s a reason he never met Harry. And doubt he was invited to the wedding. Harry and Meg made mistakes when it came to dealing with him, but now they can just watch him dig that hole.
Yes, he made her. He gave sperm, id send him a thank you for being a sperm donor card.
Milla, Sarah made a choice to have an affair with the toe-sucker (and yes, Pedo Andy was always away on his ship, but still, her choice). And while she may’ve been “set up” by a reporter posing as a sheik (I believe, if memory serves), SHE again, made the choice to sell access to PA, no one twisted her arm to try and make $$$$$$ off him. She could’ve always told said reporter/sheik to f**** off). So I don’t know why you think she’s not accountable for HER actions.
Jan
We have all made choices. Some get overlooked or excused. Some overblown and exploited for all it can be to redirect attention and anger. It’s all in how history is written and news is manipulated. Not in how it happened.
Think that over.and Milla’s points are stronger than you’re addressing
Different time…..
and Prince Henry is at a different serious level of maturity, and seem as Traditional as grannie [ HM
This is what I can’t figure out.
How did he go from a guy being totally quiet for the length of the dating and engagement to exploding the week of the wedding? What snapped and why? He even put out a joint statement with Doria for the engagement…
Guilt and shame. He’s projecting now.
I think he’s always been that guy. Personally, I think the joint statement was bullshit but Meghan’s always appeased him. He’s a narcissist. The minute he felt forgotten, like it was no longer about him he lashed out and he’s only gotten worse and will continue to get worse. Emotional abusers are always happy when things are going their way and you’re doing what they want.
He tried to hide and make money but it blew up in his face. That was his undoing and he’s been slowly shedding that “nice guy” act since then. He’s always been like Samantha and Jr, he was just better at hiding it. His comments are an echo of what Samantha has been saying for months. He’s the one that’s always felt that way. She was his mouth piece- now he’s his own.
It’s highly likely that all the trashy rags sought his *input and opinion* leading up to the wedding. And he was prepared to accept their money to sell out his own “much loved” daughter. For a price. As long as they keep paying, this despicable git will continue to spill his guts, whether whatever he feeds them is true or not. It gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, “filthy lucre”.
I have theorized in my head that he was going along and doing what Meghan and Harry requested during the engagement period. He stayed below the radar and kept quiet. Then I think Samantha started whispering in his ear telling him he should allow the papers to take a few photos and make some extra money, because what could it hurt? It’s only a few photos. Then, when it blew up, he was embarrassed and pulled out of the wedding and since then, Meghan and Harry have kept their distance while Samantha has been advising him on how to handle everything. The fact that he is now taking up for Samantha and criticizig Meghan saying she should apologize to her sister speaks volumes.
I really feel for Meghan. I do think she loves her father. She has spoken well of him over the years and wanted him to walk her down the aisle. Unfortunately, he has crossed the line now. That line cannot be uncrossed and he cannot be trusted.
He also appears to have narcissistic tendencies. Everything in these “interviews” is me, me, me and how everything is affecting “me.” He has not once thought about or reflected how his behavior is affecting his daughter.
Sherry, it’s frankly baffling how you keep making excuses for that man. At first, you kept saying he’s naive (all evidence to the contrary) and didn’t know what he was doing by selling photographs and talking to TMZ. Months later, you’re still trying to excuse his conduct by blaming it on Samantha. Listen to what everyone is telling you. This is a 70 year old man who has free will and knows exactly what he is doing. And he keeps doing it.
There are no excuses for his behavior and no one is making him do a blessed thing. All of this is 100% Thomas Markle’s idea, action, and fault.
Here is my own two cents. His interviews drift from (briefly) apologetic to (mostly) self-centered and even bullying statements. He’s telling us who he is. Samantha may be harping on the money angle, but he’s not new to this rodeo. He knows exactly how to be bossy and use guilt to get attention.
I think he would have pulled an attention-getting stunt at the wedding, had he gone. He would have felt faint at the ceremony, for example. Even at a wedding or funeral, these type people have to be the CENTER of attention.
TM worked in the entertainment field. He’s not a rube. He knows what he is doing.
I think the embarrassment over the staged photos pushed him over the edge into full blown cray cray. And I’m sure Yvonne/Samantha played a role. But I also don’t think he ever really planned to attend the wedding. I’m the back of his mind I think he did not want to go all along and thank god he didn’t!
Thomas Markle got a taste of attention and importance. He is from the entertainment industry so he knows all about that. He is an unhinged Narcissist. If you have ever known one his playbook is familiar.
He knew and knows what his actions are. He’s aware enough to cash in.
No excuses. And at this point he’s indefensible
Takes 2 to tango. The tabloids were not after him then, they just start going after her family when it was close to the wedding. They got engaged in mid-November. Her brother, sister started talking just a few months later. And then her father. I am meh.. with the whole royal thing but now I feel awfully bad for Megan and Harry.
Yeah no, we don’t want him in Mexico.
All I can think about when I read the embarrassment this man is, is that we used to complain about the Middletons… And now we have to deal with this. The Middletons were saints next to this man.
He definitely doesn’t love his daughter. If he did, he wouldn’t be doing this
I agree. He loves himself far too much to really love anyone else.
This latest bonfire of the vanities was so over the top that by all rights he should now have lost all chance at any relationship with Meghan.
As far as I’m concerned, this has reached the level of abuse.
I agree it’s abusive – and cruel – but I don’t understand the timeline. He was invited to the wedding. He would have walked Meghan down the aisle for a global audience. Met the Queen and all that. Isn’t that what he’s after??Why didn’t he take that opportunity when he had it? We now know he’s no shrinking violet and clearly wasn’t too embarrassed to go. I’m really puzzled by this behavior.
NVMD. This was answered below, with the biggest ick factor.
It’s time to bring back beheadings QEII.
Agree. What a self centred POS. Crazy to see how he feels so sorry for himself. My heart goes out to Meghan.
We really should stop with comparing two women who are nothing alike and weren’t even connected until they married two brothers who are also very different. It makes no sense. Thomas Markle and co.’s awfulness doesn’t mean people can’t be critical of the Middletons. I don’t understand this need to even mention them in this whole sorry affair.
I have to agree, Magnoliarose. Such comparisons have no meaning and they foster a public idea of competition that exists only in the minds of people who do not know these two women.
So many things I want to say:
– first of all, he isn’t embarrassing Meghan, he is ABUSING her and the disgusting press is complicit. They need to be punished, from now on, the Sussex family should court foreign media: give them all the exclusives; interviews with ABC/CNN, American/Australian vogue cover, Meghan speaks fluent spanish so she should do an interview and speech in Spain, don’t even do the whole posing outside St Mary Hospital with your newborn thing either; have them starving for access. And if that doesn’t work SUE
– EVERYONE SHOULD READ ABOUT DIANA’S LIFE AGAIN. She cut off ANYONE who wasn’t on her wave. She died having a horrible relationship with her mother, Frances. Like Markle, Frances would also talk to the press without permission and Diana cut her off. Same goes for Diana’s brother and childhood friends.
– IF THIS WAS WILLIAM’S WIFE, THIS WOULD NOT BE ENTERTAINED FOR THIS LONG. I believe as long as Meghan shares the same press office as the Cambridges, this will continue because it looks good on the heir and his family. Clarence House probably won’t intervene either because this Thomas Markle rubbish is making Charles look like father of the century. The only hope is Harry and Meghan put their foot down and demand a separate press office.
If you were in charge of Harry and Meghan’s PR, what would you do? I just can’t think of what else they can do but stay silent and starve him of attention until he goes away. If they try to rebuke him publicly, that just gives him more fodder to go to the press with.
I suppose they could get a few ‘sources’ biting back, but that is what this interview is about — countering the claim he was lying about his heart attack. It’s really a no-win situation for Meghan.
I agree. Cut off the information supply. His stories are repetitive enough as it is. He’ll probably be trotted out to comment on every milestone they reach, though (1st anniversary, babies, etc.) but he won’t have direct insight.
Blaming The Cambridges for TM behavior is a stretch
I think Tom will be like Paul Burrell and Ken Wharf, even though they’ve had no contact with the royal family for 20+ years, any time there’s anything going on out they trot to give their two cents. Sigh…
*9 hours*… It’s time for the Sussex’s and KP to strike a deal with the press to cut his access and start write flattering coverage, a la kardashians, Diana, and every other media savvy celeb (they tried to deflect with the kiss, but that’s just a band aid). Paying Tom off won’t work and he needs cut ASAP.
hand write a letter…. if he releases it or talks shite, simply release your own draft. Handwritten, it will be hard to say it’s been altered. She says, Daddy I love you and do so wish you would stop. Only after a two years silence can we resume our relationship. I need to know I can trust you. If this letter is released or you choose to keep going, you’re quite right, you will pass without knowing the rest of my life.
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Here’s why your letter idea wouldnt work. Because it’s already, in a sense, happened.
Statements from Meghan and from her PR were released asking Thomas to stop taking to the press. By example doria has kept quiet and been fully accepted into meghan’s life with her in laws by all accounts.
If Meghan gives Thomas 1 single piece of evidence he has the ability to hound her and she will cave and give him her time. That he has access to her directly. That’s bad. Right now all he can do is yell and repeat. The well will run dry soon enough.
This man will talk no matter what. And he will speak to those that will also talk. And do it for payment. Nothing positive can come from him atm
They will abide by the BRF’s unwritten ruke: Never complain. Never explain.
This bucketmouth gets more disgusting and scrapes the bottom of the barrel further every day. How much more vile does he want to be? The filthy rags that publish his foul stories really are complicit. Ugh. Sickening.
How are William and Kate or their press office somehow to blame for Thomas Markle?
Even for this site that’s some very graspy grasping.
They are saying that in the past the press office always threw Harry under the bus to make William look better. The thought is that this whole thing makes the Cambridges look better. Personally, I don’t agree. I just don’t think W and K or Charles are villains.
TM is a Narcissist. The only way to counter them is silence.
Meghan doesn’t even pretend to speak fluent Spanish; I don’t know why people here pretend that’s true.
SMDH. Why do people come on forums like these and talk about things they know nothing about?
Meghan does’nt speak fluent spanish?
LMAO – Go and tell that to Harry’s Argentinian polo friend who confirmed that she speaks excellent spanish.
Not sure if she’s fluent but according to Nacho who is argentinian,she’s good enough.
ScottieIsBack, the same reason people are blaming this crap on the Middletons and the Cambridges! So many half-truths and lies/gossip.
@Yasmin, please don’t pin any of this on the Cambridges or the Middys. Thomas Markle sr., and only him, is responsible for the abuse he’s inflicting on his daughter, nobody else. All blame should be squarely placed where it belongs, that is on TM Sr. shoulders. Making excuses for and shifting blame from this despicable vile person is so not acceptable.
Meghan speaks English only. If she were fluent in another language, we would’ve heard about it already. She probably speaks the key phrases and such, but she did say in an old interview that she would like to learn again because she’s forgotten.
Meghan speaks Spanish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adRXYTKUAos&t=18s
Also, Harry’s buddy Nachos Figueros said on IG that she speaks it perfectly.
@Toot
That was a funny clip. It isn’t unusual for someone from Southern California to focus on Spanish as a second language. I know someone like Meghan who became fluent by starting Spanish in junior high and then taking it all the way through college. She studied abroad and she traveled to Spanish speaking countries. She was born in Santa Monica to American non Spanish speaking parents.
It happens.
You Meghan haters are sometimes so stupid it hurts. As the video above shows, it’s been no secret for years (before she met Harry) that Meghan speaks FLUENT Spanish. Hey @hypocrites, maybe next time you want to try and bash Meghan, do it with something that doesn’t already have video evidence to back it up, okay?
BTW, it was FRENCH that she said she studied, but doesn’t remember well. THAT was the language she doesn’t speak fluently, but in kind of a conversational manner (which is stated in her bio on the Royal Website BTW).
@morrigan01, you are so right. It is the abject stupidity of the haters that has me by-passing the royal threads most days. They try to inject MM into every royal thread just so they can criticize her. They repeat the same stupid, pointless arguments and end up looking like dogs chasing their own tails when they get checked on their stupidity and hypocrisy. Since none of them are half as smart as they think they are, they snipe at other commenters when their limited reasoning abilities fail them. They’re a nasty mix of bigots, racists, classicists, self-haters and the mentally disturbed, and most delight in leaving their shit stains on MM threads just to infuriate other commenters or discharge some compulsion. IMO, it’s best to ignore them because, like Thomas Markle, they will never go away.
Yeah, stick a fork in him, he’s done. I think the Palace will see this as a very personal attack. Meghan is never speaking to him again.
Yeah, it was a personal attack especially after he threatened to “unload” on them.
They are stuck with him, because this is the type of person that won’t shut up, even with a gun to his head. Poor meghan. I can only hope he sees the light, and stop selling out and bad mouthing his daughter in the press
This is straight out of the narcopath’s playbook (TM Flying Monkies Denied – website resource for narcissistic abuse survivors).
– I made you what you are today you owe me entitlement thinking.
– I’d be better off dead emotional manipulation
– I’ve reached my limit, I won’t be silenced – overt threats which her security should take seriously imo.
– talking about Diana like he knew and understood her while it’s painfully evident that he has no insight into who Diana was or what she was like. Doing it however to target Harry.
– shit talkingMeghan in one breath and praising her her in the next.
This is not embarrassing this is very DISTURBING! He is a dangerous manipulator who Appears to be coming undone and he has two equally dangerous enablers in his son and daughter. I am afraid for Meghan and glad she has security.
I agree, this is clear emotional manipulation. It’s threatening, and he knows exactly what he is doing. He does not want to see his daughter doing well, if he cannot be beside her to share her glory, and take credit for her success. IMO, if Diana were alive, I believe she would have personally told him to shut up, and scold the press for talking to him. I think the palace security is taking him seriously, also British intelligence is excellent, they may have tapped his phones and are watching him to see what he is really doing behind the scenes. They will not take this lying down.
It is extremely disturbing. I hope they are monitoring him.
And he’s saying it in public interviews. Imagine what he and his older spawn are saying privately!
He knows his yapping has led to this point, yet he keeps throwing verbal punches. He also made a reference to Samantha’s behavior and how Meghan has to just take it because she’s family. NO, she does not. “Family” is not an excuse to abuse.
Yes!! This dude has NPD, no two ways about it. The lying, manipulation, “mememe”, willing to screw over your own kid-narcissist.
It is very clear. Many of us said the health threats and escalation would happen and here it is. But boyfriend is not done. He will go further. I still await another hospitalization or some sort of crisis.
@ Mego : Great website (Flying Monkeys Denied). I went to it and it looks like a very helpful resource. Thanks.
Completely agree! I was married now divorced from one and went through a custody battle w/ the sociopath. He was just like this. I owe him everything, all about him. TM is a narcissist no doubt. I can only imagine what Meaghan must have dealt w/ in private. My Number 1 rule is do not engage. They will usually twist every word out of your mouth and they love to get a reaction so if possible, ignore. Hopefully Meghan can spend her time and energy on all the positive in her life and keep the emotional energy for her father to a minimum.
I don’t understand his end game here. At some point Meghan & Harry plan to have children. He will NEVER be part of his future grandchildren’s lives if he keeps this up. He’s a toxic person. Also, does he seriously want praise for raising his own daughter?? I mean seriously??
It’s all about him, obviously…
I doubt an American would say Mummy. Wonder how much these writers are goading/editing him. He’s a train wreck but they are complicit as well for giving him a platform.
They are catering to their audience which hates Meghan with vengeance. That’s why they will never stop taking his calls. Dailyfail will use every opportunity to humiliate Meghan.
Not just the Fail, it’s in The Express, as well. I didn’t look, but I’m sure all the tabs have this in the same form. Despicable to be sure, but discord sells.
TM has now, two or three times, mentioned how now he may be kidnapped, as “a lot of important people in Mexico are kidnapped for ransom”. Here’s a BIG HINT for ya MI6! Problem solved 😜😝😂
The Express/Sun’s BTL commenters seem 95% in favour of Meghan and disgusted by TM. It’s only the Heil’s sociopaths who have an endless axe to grind.
Agree @Birdix. But I don’t think it’s just a platform, I thinking goading is involved too. And it sounds like the reporter wouldn’t have to be a psychologist to figure out how to punch his buttons, unfortunately.
Of course we shouldnt forget predatory journalists are definitely steering the conversation but at some point a grown man is going to have to realize what he is doing.
DM said this interview took 9 hours over 3 days. They will be quoting this interview for weeks, although what could be left for him to spill?
He sure talked nice about Charles in that interview, sucking up like crazy to him. Wonder what he’s up to there?
Nine hours?! That had to have been mind-numbingly boring and repetitive. How many way can you say “They won’t talk to me?”
@Lady D, I was amazed at that little detail (three days, nine hours). I once knew a lady who worked with a longtime tabloid writer. She talked about how family will sell out a celebrity, and how a bucket of chicken led to an exclusive with an older couple who had made national headlines decades earlier.
Now, I’m imagining these reporters spending those three days with this guy. The article claims he didn’t receive “money” for the interview.
I think a bucket of chicken, a listening ear and a tabloid audience is all you need with this increasingly desperate guy.
That says more about the DM than it does about TM. Or maybe confirms what we already know about that shameless rag.
A 9 hour interview !!!
For a man as unhinged as TM shows just how desperate the DM are. Interviewing a 74 year old man at that level of intensity shows a shameless amount of ‘mining’ which likely led to the DM putting words into his mouth i.e.;
Q- Do you think Diana, who was also a humanitarian would have agreed with the way Meghan is dealing with this?
A – TM: No
DM publish in Newspaper: TM says “Diana who also called herself a humanitarian would not have approved of how he is being treated now”
This is why H&M told TM not to speak to the papers because ultimately they have control over what is being printed and will ALWAYS skewer the facts. You can never be in control of the narrative.
H&M could have covered for him a few weeks ago immediately after the wedding and patched up this PR mess, but now there is no turning back. They have to distance themselves from him owing to what is coming next.
TM Snr strikes me as your typical seedy old man reading between the lines of what has been printed thus far in his interviews. We have seen how the press have been follwing him around Mexico for months now so likely have been privy to all his behaviours. I have had my suspicions for a while now that TM did not move to Mexico just to get away from his bankruptcies and to secure a cheaper way of life. There are nicer places to retire in Mexico is all I am saying.
When the press finally declare open season on him he will be finished. All his bullcrap will be laid to bare and there will be no hiding places or assistance from those Palace aides whom bizarrely ‘have disconnected the numbers he had’.
One thing Meg must be praised on is how well she had the measure on her Markle family and in doing so held them at a distance for so long to the point they barely know her and cannot therefore sell a lick of information about her. That is why they are frantically pushing for a phone call anything, if they cannot secure that accesses, they fade into obscurity and the papers will lose interest in them.
Without a credible link Scammy’s career also stalls. You can only trade on a tenuous link for so long.
I read the entire article. It. Was. FRIGHTENING.
He kept going back and forth – one sentence lauding his daughter and then the next three were outright threatening. Then back to how much he loves and misses her. Then BOOM – another threat. There was no spinning this into a plea from a loving father but The Mail sure did try, and more than that they attempted to guilt Meghan into contacting her dad. This triggers me – I HATE when women (or people in general) who have been wronged and make appropriate boundaries are made to feel guilty for that, and are cajoled into conceding even though they were the ones who were wronged.
Hi KNy! did you read the bit by Ingrid Seward where she places the blame for Mr. Markle’s behavior on Meghan? My stomach just turned reading one woman encourage another woman to roll over and continue to take the abuse, she’s truly disgusting.
Ugh, yes. I wanted to scream, “Who is the victim here!?!”
@Lauri
The judgement for women by women is dependent on who the woman is: for example, if it’s a beautiful famous woman that many other women envy, her tumultuous and often emotionally damaging relationship to a parent will be harshly judged and she will be blamed and villified. See Angelina Jolie and her relationship with her father, Jon Voight. For so long he was pitied and she was shamed for her treatment of him, with people using a twisting of his words on an infotainment show years ago to constantly slam HER (‘Blah blah blah even her father says she’s crazy!) while Voight’s documented bad treatment of his young wife and children were dismissed in order to beat Jolie up.
If it’s an ordinary basic yet famous woman that many others may RELATE to yet do NOT envy –who is perceived as sad and average, her supporters will make excuses for the tumultuous relationship with the parent and in most instances the offending parent will be blamed for the acrimony while her daughter, the basic woman skates and gets coddled by enablers. See Jen Aniston and her long estrangement from her mother.
Thank you for bringing up the Ingrid Seward bull)$(,!
That was atrocious. For real the argument is that Tom paid Meghan’s school tuition, so he is entitled to psychologically abuse her in perpetuity? He was her effin parent. And I’m not sure how it works in the UK but be assured Meghan could have gone to a good university like Northwestern even without her dad paying. I went to a good college on student loans and scholarships. Meghan was a good student and could have done the same. Seeing Seward parrot the Markle argument that Tom owns her because he paid her tuition is so gross.
Tourmaline—yes, my sister went to Northwestern (way back when) and we weren’t rich. Private schools like that often have generous endowments and can offer good financial aid.
@Cleo
I think of AJ and Jon Voight too. He’s a complete asshole and she was hounded for years because she didn’t want him around. Not only did he blab to the press about her being unfit to adopt Maddox, he was cruel to her and her mother growing up. He left them broke and desperate A LOT. He’s such a great actor so I can’t say he completely road her coattails for a resurgence but I wouldn’t put it past him to dangle her name out there for extra measure.
Narcissists like to keep a running tab on everything they do as if basic required behavior is extraordinary
Ingrid is awful! And she is BFFs with Camilla and Charles. They need to have a word with her. WTH?!?!? As the editor of Majesty magazine, this is a terrible abuse of her position.
Ingrid Seward is an asshole for saying that. She is a clueless idiot.
Most people don’t live past 80. Go choke on a Frappuccino, you POS.
The nastiness is there for all to see and am sure he has serious skeletons in his closet that if he doesn’t shut it will b flung out. Humiliating him is the only way to shut him up, to become a news pariah.
The abusive language makes me wonder if he was physically abusive at some point. Both tend to go together. People like him can start off with the emotional abuse and when that stops getting the desired effect it turns physical
What does he have to unload onto the RF and Meghan? His Big Mac boxes? He has nothing and he knows it hence all the threats and lies about everything.
He’s a pathetexcuse for a man and father. He’s desperate not only for attention from Meghan and the RF but sympathy from Joe Public. He’s pissy he’s getting none of it.
“His Big MAC boxes?” Hahahahahahah! Thank you for making me lol this morning, DU! 😅
Watching this man use the press to publicly abuse his daughter is horrible and upsetting. I cannot imagine how Meghan feels, I hope she continues to pay no attention to him.
I read the entire article and he again brought up children she and Harry may have in the future. Talking about how he’d be a grandfather, and he hopes to see them, like doesn’t already have five grandkids? Is he estranged from them all? Wonder why.
Yes, he has other grandchildren that he has never met – its obv that the sudden focus on Meghan and any potential children she may have has to do with the money he can make and attention he can get off them.
He wasn’t a great father and is very much as absent grandfather. I hope that his first wife spills the tea on him, am sure there is a lot of tea to spill.
Exactly, he’s just trying to use Meghan, and the press never call him out on it!
I wonder what his ex wife has to say about him as well. She’s spoken well of both Meghan and Doria, and called out Samantha. I’d bet she has some stories to tell about Thomas.
Agreed to everything. He will keep going until it reaches some breaking point. I have no idea what that is though.
Thomas is one of the most selfish people I’ve ever seen. It’s all about him. Doria got bad articles written about her, but never engaged. Thomas is just like his terrible older children except he hurts more because Meghan still was talking to him.
Thank good Meghan had her mother or she probably would have been like those two.
So bitter and angry that he doesn’t have access to use to keep selling her out. I agree, he’s jealous of Doria. Doria has access. Doria still speaks with her daughter. Doria is in good graces with the Royal Family and Harry clearly adores her.
So Thomas, you do realize you have other kids, grandkids, nieces and nephews, right? Oh, right,’you can’t make any money off of them!
I love the quote : “Meghan got her attitude from her mother. Doria always told Meghan: ‘If they’re not doing anything for you, why should you do anything for them?’
Well, Doria kind of has a point there, Thomas. Users and abusers like you and some of the other Markles should be jettisoned out of Meghan’s life. He sounds like my mother when she went on a rant as I was being non-compliant – responsibilites (to family, not yourself)! Obligations (to others, not yourself)! Yeah, I remember it – guilt trips ‘r us.
Wow, he did the bare f*”&ing minimum that any half-decent father would do?! Hold the press! She should just stop her life in mid-track and fall at his feet in gratitude!
I mean.
Her mother wouldn’t have been able to afford that education. It’s hardly the bare minimum.
It is a lot to spend.
^^^i bet trump paid for his kids’ education. That doesnt make markle or trump a good man.
I didn’t say it did. Just don’t see a point in pretending it’s nothing.
He paid for her college education using money he won from an Illinois state lottery, so it didn’t exactly cost him.
It did cost him… Because he paid for it.
Obviously he’d have fucked up with his money anyway and probably lost it but it was his money. He spent it on her.
Sorry, i dont mean to jump on you. I just cant stand this guy. The way he’s selling out his daughter is disgusting. I’m just not sure what your point is by saying he paid for her education. No, he didn’t have to but a lot of parents do.
But she did try to acknowledge all that. She wanted him to walk her down the aisle in front of a global audience. She did her best to include him and he turned it into a media circus. He’s the one spinning the narrative that she’s ungrateful.
She’s his child. Of course he should spend money on her. Sure it’s his money but she’s his child! She owes him nothing.
Being a good financial provider and being a loving parent are not the same thing. Given the choice, I’d rather have the latter. There seem to be a lot of people who confuse paying for their children with living their children. It’s great if you can do both but it’s not always the case…..
I don’t think it is fair to dismiss the role he had in Meghan’s upbringing, he wasn’t a deadbeat dad, he paid a lot of money for her education and she thanked him in a gushing instagram post a couple of years ago.
I also don’t agree with the whole children don’t owe anything of their parents. I 100% believe that as a grown up, it is my duty to take care of my elderly parents who have sacrificed so much for me.
HOWEVER, when Thomas Markle decided to sell out his daughter to the highest bidder and humiliate her in front of her in-laws and the world, he waived all of that. That man is scum, and he deserves not one iota of her time. The only thing Meghan can/should do is ignore him, as long as people are willing to read his crap, papers will pay him to keep talking shit about his daughter.
@Googlyy, what are you talking about? Why wouldn’t Meghan’s mother been able to afford Meghan’s education? I’m African and I raised 5 kids on my own and I supported all my kids financially and in everything else, as a single mother!! And that was in Ugand where nothing is free. Why would Doria couldnt have afforded to educate her only child? Because she is a woman and only men are able to do so? That is the most ridiculous thing I ever read on here even from a MM hater!!. What are you going on and on about?
He could have not paid a dime and Meghan would still have gotten the education she got. She is where she is at because of the hard work she put in at school. His other kids are where they are at not because he didnt pay for them but because of their laziness and foolishness. There’s something called student loans that a big percentage of people access to get very good education. Thomas don’t get no brownie points for raising his child, he should have had protected sex or a vasectomy if he didn’t want the responsibility. And no, kids don’t owe their parents zilch. The parents make conscious choices to have unprotected sex, the parents know the outcome of unprotected sex is babies or UTIs. TM was just doing his responsibility as a father to raise his child, he wasn’t making any investment and Meghan owes him zilch.
I don’t think the idea that Doria alone likely couldn’t afford the costs of Meghan’s private Catholic schools and her private university Northwestern education is a slight @Masamf. The costs would have been very high. TM had a long-established career. Doria was likely still a travel agent. (She earned her social work degree in 2015.) The cost of living is high in CA as well. And during some of that time Doria had some responsibility for her own mother. So TM likely did contribute. That’s not a put-down of Doria.
But Googlyyy just because you order something from the f*ck side of the menu (the more expensive items), as a friend would say, that doesn’t obligate you or make you beholden to that person your entire life.
No, as a parent, he didn’t have to pay a cent for her education but he did. Good on him. A lot of parents aren’t able to do that. However, the fact that he paid still doesn’t mean that Meghan has a life long obligation to him or one that allows him to humiliate her.
Finally, as the parent who is the highest earner, it would make sense that Thomas footed the bill. Although the marriage with Doria was essentially over, they still had a commitment to Meghan and it looked like they worked out what they thought was best for her given their lives and circumstances. Finally, Northwestern is not cheap but Meghan could have taken out student loans like so many of us have had to do.
Honey, her uncle said a while back that Meghan turned down 2 or 3 scholarships and decided on Northwestern instead. So I don’t think she had to pay back student loans because TM paid for education.
He gave his three children the same amount of money, from the lottery winnings Meghan’s college tuition was paid with hers.
@Elizabeth, no, uhm uhm, I’m not fooled sorry. This is typical sterotyping DM fashion: Doria, black single mother in almost outta Compton was poor she couldn’t have afforded an education Meghan’s wealthy white dad afforded. I call BS. There are many kids that are raised by single black women that do actually give them very good private school education. And yes black single mothers CAN raise their kids very well and those kids can and often turn out very well too.
Did he pay for her education because he loved her and wanted her to prosper, OR did he do it so she would owe him? A narcissist would do the latter, and that’s how he’s talking now.
She owes this abusive windbag exactly nothing.
@Masamf–Any single mom who is a travel agent and who is responsible for the care of an elderly mother would have trouble paying the tuition and other expenses for a child at a pricey private university. Published figures suggest tuition, fees, and room/board of around 32K/year the years Meghan was at Northwestern (figure excludes personal expenses, travel, etc.) That’s 128K min excluding the extra expenses associated with Meghan’s internship. And Doria declared bankruptcy around the time Meghan finished high school. So no, I’m not buying Doria paid for Meghan’s Northwestern education. It has nothing to do with her race or how one’s children turn out. The facts in this particular case don’t suggest DR could have had 128K in reserve. Just as it has nothing to do with Doria’s race, it has nothing to with TM’s. Regardless of his race, he was older than Doria, he is a man and men tend to earn more than women, and he had an established career when they met. He may have paid with lottery winnings but I still think he paid.
Meghan could have taken out loans and/or gotten scholarship help but if she did, that doesn’t support the idea that Doria paid the bills. Doria’s work as a travel agent may have been helpful for Meghan’s travel in college and in her early 20s but I simply don’t believe she paid for her college. And there’s nothing wrong with that. It’s not a criticism of DR just a likely fact. (I think MM may have even said TM paid.) And as others have said Doria was and is obviously an important source of other kinds of support for Meghan.
He paid her tuition with a windfall. Good on him for helping out his own child financially while she works to further her education and make her own way into adulthood.
What almost negates his kindness is his actions now. You cannot claim your selfless acts as decent and kind of you have been or are holding out for repayment. Bringing up those moments like you are owed. That’s not how kindness works. It’s not how parenting works. It’s how loans work.
@Lizbeth, we don’t know what Doria’s financial status was at the time and so dismissing her as just this “poor black single mother living off a meager a travel agent job” is very disturbing . How do you know Doria never got any settlement from her divorce that would have enabled her to pay for her daughter? How do you know she had no inheritance from her father? And what exactly makes people think a travel agent wage is living hand to mount with absolutely nothing left for anything else? And didn’t Doria’s sick mother have no insurance and thus was only dependent on Doria’s salary? We know none of these details but yet here we are, dissing the woman just because she worked as a travel agent and couldn’t have raised Meghan nor paid her tuition dues because she was too poor. Here’s a very good article that might be of interest:
http://jacksonvillefreepress.com/black-women-are-not-to-blame-for-our-problems/
Meghan has stated numerous times that she was raised by BOTH her parents. And isn’t it rich that TM Sr. is taking all the credit for raising Meghan and paying everything for her and people are just taking him at his word? Nuts.
Meghan lived with him from the age of 11 until she went to Northwestern? So he raised her for that time. That seems a bit odd because I thought she grew up with her mother. Usually, children stay with their mother’s after divorce.
Thomas said that…we don’t know if it ‘s real
He’s lying. It is called visitation or joint custody. He’s just dropping this bomb to make his case. He is a proven pathological liar. Nothing he says is real.
I have always read that Meghan lived with her mother from the time of the divorce when she was six. According to prior accounts, she did spend visitations with her father after the divorce, but that was it.
I have no idea how the story changed like this, except in TM’s twisted narcissistic version of reality. I sort of wish Doria could find a way of correcting this apparent lie without having to engage in a public verbal tussle with this loony asshole, but maybe it’s best ignored. I do believe it’s untrue, though.
This isn’t true all the pictures of her he sold are when she was little. I took this to mean he wasn’t really part of her life from when she was 11. He is a psychopathic liar.
There’s a video online where she is saying “my room is messy as I’m getting ready to leave for college”. So that right there tells you that before she left for college she was living with her mother. In the same vid, she says that “this is where my dad lives but we aren’t gonna go there as me and my dad are not on the best of terms” so at that point in Meghan’s life, she was living with her mother, not with her father. This guy is just a liar, sorry.
As I’ve read through the comments and after particularly reading about the lottery win IS the real problem the fact that Meghan has gotten a “come-up”, not just once (Suits) but twice BRF) , and didn’t break the others off a lil piece of change? She’s not showing that she’s grateful. They need a kick-back. Y’all know how that is sometimes. Isn’t there some type of fairytale like that? Henny Penny? I can’t remember right now.
Sooo, if he does want a kickback, what is TM’a price? If she were to pay the troll—that is, what does he want? A photo of himself standing with Meghan and Prince Harry? A joint interview? What does he need to STFU?
You can’t negotiate with terrorists. She just has to ride this out. In fact this is a good example for all women out there in abusive relationships, SAVE YOURSELF and ignore what the Ingrid Seward’s of the world.
Oh good lord this man is unbelievable!!! Meghan’s silence is not about those silly posed photos but about his constantly talking to the press, his emotional blackmail and now his threats to “unload” on her and her new in-laws. What kind of father is he?!
After reading this whole article last night on the DM, I have to say the piece that most disgusted me was the bit from Ingrid Seward (Majesty Magazine) where she lays the blame for Mr. Markle’s behavior right on Meghan’s feet. She goes as far as using the same emotional blackmail techniques used by Mr. Markle to try and shame Meghan into reconnecting with her father, emotional blackmail techniques that physical and emotional abusers have been using forever to place the blame for their behavior on their victim. The fact that another woman is encouraging Meghan to roll over and continue to accept this abuse just turns my stomach!! By her comments, Ms. Seward has shown herself to be the most vile of human being. Personally, I will no longer read one word Ms. Seward writes and will continue to encourage other royal readers to boycott her, her magazine and any company that supports her.
Those pap shots r his stick to beat her and the RF with. It’s all he has to whine about. Why is t he being held to account for getting paid to talk to the press just like scammy. I know it says he wasn’t paid for this one but he was for all the others
The more a narcissist is ignored the more unhinged they become.
Exactly, Digital Unicorn—the press is pouring gasoline on an already raging fire, and they should be held responsible for the fallout just as he should.
And as for that DM claim that Markle wasn’t paid for “this” interview: He engaged in multiple interviews with them over three days, for a total of NINE hours, so they could easily claim in truth that he wasn’t paid for “this” interview while he HAD actually been paid for one or all of the others. This is what I believe happened, and I would bet he was given a boatload of money for the other eight hours of their time with him.
It’s hard to fathom how anyone could bear to spend nine hours with that self-pitying narcissist windbag.
Thomas is truly scary. He’s acting like a crazy exboyfriend.
@Jane
Agree totally.
Almost feels like there’s a reverse Oedipus complex at play here. I remember earlier in the timeline, her brother talked about how their father had been semi-obsessed with Meghan…..to the point where he had fallen ill when she went to college. At the time, I thought it was a harmless little anecdote, exaggerated for effect (especially given the source of the story).
However, this continuing behavior is really starting to build on that picture. Here’s what I’m seeing:
1. He didn’t attend her first wedding either……no idea why, but it must be relevant.
2. I’ve never got the sense that this is entirely about money. The choices he has made suggest that money is the secondary factor. The first is control.
3. Meghan + Harry tried their best to bring him into the fold, the way they did with Doria. But he has (deliberately in my opinion), sabotaged their every effort, at every turn. Why?
4. Every comment he has made about Harry since the wedding has been hostile. Even the very first sit down interview with Piers Morgan. I was struck by how much he tried to tie Harry to Trump, whilst insisting on how much he himself, hates Trump. He knew how unpopular Trump was with the British public, even then. Was he trying to place himself side by side against Harry to the British public? “Look everyone, while I detest Trump, Harry thinks he’s ok and should be given a chance”…..Talk about screwing someone over.
5. I thought at the time that Piers Morgan must have prepped him to discuss Harry’s Politics as way to attack Harry. It’s clear to me now that Thomas knew EXACTLY what he was doing at the time.
6. He has never liked Harry’s new, prominent position in Meghan’s life. Not even from the start.
7. He is determined to kill this relationship if he can because he feels entitled to her and her life. He believes he has a right to be the most important male in her life. He believes he OWNS her.
This is firmly in the territory of abuse now, and the BRF need to treat the situation from that perspective.
Bella,
Ohgawd. That all makes so much sense. And explains the wedding nonsense. He wasn’t about being included, he wanted to derail the wedding. Oh. Just, ick.
I completely forgot about Jr. saying that TM was obsessed with Meghan. Bella and Bettyrose, what you both wrote *completely* makes sense.
Samantha has said as much as well. That is where all the jealousy and resent steams from. Thomas ignored them all their childhood and was obsessed with his new baby girl. He did everything for Meghan but it wasn’t to provide for her. It was for his own self needs. He wanted to see her be like him. She was his “Bean” and she idolized her dad.
Then teen hormones kicked in and Meghan had a mind of her own. He wasn’t the #1 in her life. She had her own dreams and goals. And she was meeting boys. Based on the video Priddy provided, we saw that things were not well between Meghan and Thomas her late teen years. No doubt when Meghan got independent was when their relationship shifted.
It is classic. He is obsessed with his daughter and the fact she has a man in Harry who is now her #1 has him seething. Thomas can’t even hide his hated of Harry. He gets more and more hostile with each interview. Husband trumps father and he can’t handle it.
At least she is physically safe from him.
Yes there is something creepy and abusive about they way he views Meghan – I wouldn’t be surprised if he interfered in her first marriage. He knows how to manipulate her but he’s not anticipating the RF who have the means and money to protect her from him and his games. He’s messing with the wrong family – at some point a deal with be made with the UK tabs to burn him and Scammy. First they have to let him hang himself – not quite there yet – and then the negative stories about him start where his skeletons are dragged out of the closet. There has been warning shots fired and he has ignored them, he will rue the day he got into bed with our tabloids.
Meghan is part of the Firm now and they look after their own. Tommy boy needs to get over himself.
Wow, Bella. I never thought of it in those terms, but it really does fit that narrative. Now, I’m not only enraged by his behavior, but disturbed as well.
YUP! I posted something very similar a couple of weeks ago on one of the royal forums.
I think part of the psychology of this is long simmering resentment by Tom of DORIA. It sounds like Tom dumped his first wife…but that Doria was the one who dumped Tom.
The creepy stuff he is saying about how Meghan got her “attitude” from Doria …
Yes. It is just that creepy.
There was an article in the New York Times or New Yorker? some time ago about these kinds of fathers who objectify their daughters and behave as if they own them. They want to be the ONLY man in their lives and have a twisted obsession with them.
Kim
There was distance between Thomas and Meghan before teen hormones. Before the divorce it’s been touched on that Thomas was an abusive, manipulative pos. And he was not close with her in any loving way. It was described as everything he has been displaying now.
Right?! He’s frightening and repulsive. I am very sympathetic to Meghan with this as her father.
He’s toast. I’m sure Megan belongs to the “DONT’ YOU EVER TALK ABOUT MY MOTHER!” club.
Yep, totally understandable that Meghan would feel protective of Doria, who hasn’t done anything to attract public attention. Crap, even I don’t want to hear my father mention my mother’s name. They hate each other, fine, but my mother hasn’t said one word about my father in 20 years. Can’t even imagine having to shut my dad down in a public forum. It would be brutal.
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This vile narcissist. “I made her the duchess she is today”. Are you kidding me? That woman became the one she is inspite of him and his other horrible offspring. This man sees his daughter as a direct extension of him- so unhealthy. How did this poor girl ever live with him… Something I have been wondering is why the public didn’t hear from him until after he staged those pictures before her wedding? Now the man won’t shut up. It’s just terrible.
My a-hole father used to say that to me all the time: I made you, you wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for me, I paid for your education (yes, but I am the one who got her fu@in degree,the honorable mention was only on me) and all this kind stuff.
And guess what? Cut him off my life.
I remember our last fight, when I finally found the strenght to tell him” You didn’t do anything special, you don’t deserve a medal, you did what you were supposed to do”.
And even after years it’s MY fault. These kind of people are master manipulator: they make you feel bad about yourself, they have their version of the story and in the end you are the one who cut them off.
Tom Sykes from The Daily Beast did two articles defending Meghan
https://www.thedailybeast.com/now-meghan-markless-dad-seeks-to-shame-her-as-well?ref=author
https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-time-to-stop-the-classist-sexist-attacks-on-meghan-markle?ref=author
But he is the only one….
@ Elenor,
I’m glad you found the strenght to cut your father off. Good for you.
Wrt Meghan, (as was the case for you), he did nothing special by paying for her education. It’s the most basic of responsibilities as a father. Parents are legally required to support their minor children and that entails providing food, clothing, shelter, and education. From what I understand, some states even require a contribution towards higher education as well.
Furthermore, she HAS thanked him, actually. EXTENSIVELY. In her articles, on social media, on father’s day,in interviews…on and on. In fact, her effusive praise of him is the reason so many of us failed to see him for what he really was for so long.……a desperate, selfish, entitled, arrogant, narcissist.
Good for you. Sounds like your Dad is a bully with a victim complex. That is incredibly hard to get out from under. You had the strength to walk away, and you survived. I wish you lots of happiness finally being able to enjoy life on your own terms!
Brava to YOU, Eleonor. Good for you, and best wishes in all your future decisions. Stay strong and positive!
Thanks to all of you 🙂
The thing is with this kind of person you always end up feeling bad, because they make you feel guilty. I hear what T.Markle is saying, and I can totally see where is going: all his “me me me me” thing, “why did you do that to me?” It’s a way to change the reality, and make Meghan feels bad. It’s easy to cut off when is a friend, but when is one of your parents? It’s tough.
Eleonor, I’m sorry to hear you went through that. It sounds like you are way better off without someone like that in your life. You’re right, parents are supposed to ensure their children receive a proper education. It was his choice to pay for private schooling and her college. I’m sure his motives for doing so all had something to do with how it made him look or as a guilt trip to impose on her later on. His dialogue in this interview is sickening and scary; a cyclic pattern of threats, pleads for forgiveness, insults- repeat.
Eleonor for what its worth I have a lot of senior neighbors
and I see the ones who have the kids come and take them out to lunch and the ones who take them shopping. And then I hear the ones who complain about how their kids don’t bother with them and how “ungrateful” they are. My first thought is – how did you treat those kids that they don’t want anything to do with you. And it happens a lot. Eleonor it is self preservation. Please don’t feel guilty.
I rejoiced when Prince Harry called the British media out on their racist and sexist coverage of Meghan in the beginning because black women are hardly ever defended. So why has all the feminists that are so quick to come the defense of white women being attacked with think pieces been quiet. I haven’t read one opinion piece calling out the media for their abuse of Meghan.
Somehow this black woman did not understand her place in the world and had the temerity to marry a prince and for that the media is determined to break her using her vile, no good paternal side of the family to do it.
Pippa’s father in law has been accused of rape of a minor, that news has disappeared from the news, nobody is talking about it but yet, every other day the media give platform to these cruel, nasty excuse of humans a platform to torment this woman and try to sabotage this marriage.
This is why I am so happy for Prince Harry marrying Duchess Meghan. In addition, I hope they stay together for a very long time. Her father is such a common, piece of trash out to make Meghan and her mother feel bad. Also, speaking of her mother, I thank God that Meghan has a mother she is close to and raised her to be a decent and kind woman that she has become.
Duchess Meghan, just walk with you Prince with your head up high. They might be some people who don’t like you because of your race but don’t let that distract you, just love your husband, do your Royal duties and ignore your detractors. As for your father and your half siblings CUT THEM OFF. DON’T TALK TO THEM AND HAVE NOTHING TO SAY TO THEM… LET THEM WALLOW IN THEIR FILTH.
@Magdalene,
Thank you so much for saying this. I’ve been wondering this myself. We can ALL see this is abuse, but nobody wants to call it what it is. Instead, we get people defending the abuser.
F-cking appalling.
I’m not trying to play devil’s advocate; I am just curious: What were the initial reasons she cut off contact with her family members? Was it for an attempt to control her narrative, the past be damned, or had they wronged her in some major way?
I was wondering about that too, is there any proof that he’s lying that Meghan lived with him from 11-17? Or is it because of his behavior that people are assuming he’s lying?
I was wondering about the truth of that, as well. I didn’t know that she lived with him for so many years.
Even if she lived with him all this time and even if he is not lying ,how is it important? If you are a good father,do you do things like this? Embarassing your daughter in front of the world,and talking badly about your ex?
And why do you assume that she lived all this time with him…it is just his words…do you take them for granted?
Meghans half uncle from her mum side once gave an interview where he said she was raised mostly by her mum and grandma but also Meghan also talked about how she used to go to his work during the weekdays .Think that was during the time Doria was an air hostess.Meghan ex best friend released a video where Meghan said she wasnt speaking to her dad.
Meghan said a while ago that her mother was a travel agent and she stayed with her day primarily during the week for school. Thomas also said that they would have dinner at Doria’s house a lot. So he’s clearly lying by acting like he raised Meghan as some single father. They co-parented. Nothing new.
That mans sick.
THe family has been on the outs with each other. Samantha and Jr don’t talk to their children. Jrs son’s changed their last name to their mothers. Sam’s two oldest were raised by their grandmother. Her youngest is now with her mother. Sam and Jr don’t talk to their mother. Jr just started talking to his father again. Meghan, Sam, and Jr all stopped talking to each other years ago.
The entire family is estranged from each other. Doria wasn’t very close to her half siblings once her mother and father died. Meghan’s basically only has her mother and father as constants and her grandmothers who died years ago.
I think the main reason was they started selling her out to the press.
At the beginning they tried to defend Thomas Markle, but then he started organizing pap strolls, and interviews and basically he made his own bed.
They did start with all that pretty early on, huh? Does anyone know if Meghan cut off contact before they started giving comments to the press?
The Markles have a dysfunctionnal family:Samantha and Thomas Junior were not talking either to their father…long before Meghan,they were estranged …until recently…when Meghan met Harry…
Samantha have 3 kids and never raise them:the two eldest were raised by their grandparents and the last one by her grandmother(Samantha’s mother) and they don’t talk anymore…
Samantha et Thomas Jr never bond,they were always like cat and dog…
If I was Meghan,I’ll be too running from that family!!!
When you say “they” do you mean her half siblings who are in their 50s? Because it’s common knowledge she didn’t grow up with them and evidently hasn’t seen them/Samantha since she was 10. So there was no cutting off on her part. As they were already adults when she was growing up it was up to them or their dad/ parents to make sure she had a relationship with her half siblings, it’s beyond weird to blame meghan who was a child for this. She grew up with her mom, her father was in her life and was supposed to walk her down the aisle until HE dropped out.He was not cut off until he starts yapping to the press in fact she would mention him fondly on her Insta. The others have never been in her life and it doesn’t seem like they cared until she became famous. Also the fact that they are all fighting and estranged from eachother tells its own story.
Common knowledge is wrong @Jess. Samantha says she hasn’t seen MM since 2008. You don’t have to believe her. There are lots of pictures online showing them together at Samantha’s 2008 graduation. Clearly Meghan wasn’t 10 yrs old when the pictures were taken. I think Meghan’s lack of relationship with the Markles occurred more recently.
LIizabeth,I don’t think either it’s since she was ten but they didn’t spoke since 2008 so ten years ago…Samantha didn’t give recet photos so the were estranged ten years ago…why do you think their estrangement is new? the Markles family is estranged to one another,Samantha herself have her daughter raised by her mother who she didn’t talk to….
@Iamfrench, when I said I thought the lack of relationship was more recent, I meant the lack of relationship wasn’t in place 26-27 years ago when Meghan was 10 years old. Obviously Meghan made the effort to go to a family event for Samantha 10 years ago. That’s recent to me, especially when some here claim MM essentially had no relationship with any of the Markles after the divorce occurred when she was 6 yrs old. I believe TM Jr’s kids also said they haven’t seen her for 10 yrs. So that info agrees with what Samantha says. I don’t necessarily believe Sam but I don’t think the photo of them together is fake either. I think it’s complicated as many family situations are and I think there are many things we don’t know. And TM seems mentally ill to me, perhaps experiencing the early stages of dementia. That doesn’t excuse his behavior, of course.
Lizabeth,I agree with your points…but I just don’t think the blame have to be put on Meghan.
Meh, jess point still stands, there’s a significant age difference between them. They weren’t close and didn’t see eachother much when meg was growing up. That she at one point 10 years made an effort to go to a graduation makes no major difference. It doesn’t make them close I mean I could see meg being curious of that fam once she was an adult but based on what I have seen of their characters I doubt they have much in common and if the bond wasn’t there growing up it’s not going to necessarily be something you feel you need to persist with. Like people upthread said they are all fighting with eachother, they don’t just talk shit about meg they talk shit about eachother to the press, this is clearly a very dysfunctional fam to say the least, Even if if you take Meghan out of the picture there’s a lot of estrangement in that family.. The problems clearly runs much deeper than Meghan cutting them off.
I read he paid for her education in middle/high school too. Maybe he did. But a few good deeds doesn’t mean he’s not awful in other ways.
He may very well have payed for her college but that info came from one of her untrustworthy half siblings so who knows if it’s true?
@IamFrench I definitely agree with you that his behavior in going to the press is destructive. Hypothetically, if Meghan did initially cut off contact for no good reason, however, what would be the appropriate way to react? My only brother has been causing great distress to the rest of my family for several years by suddenly cutting off contact as soon as he became involved with a tall, beautiful, evangelical blonde. While they stay hidden (with their three new babies) behind a veneer of perfection, we wring our hands and age beyond our years. We have kept all of this very private, but I often feel so desperate in missing him that I consider reaching out for help from mutual friends and the community.
I understand your personal experience…but do you think if he was a celebrity,you’ll go to the medias badmouthing him and his wife to try so solve your problems? I don’t think it’s healthy and I don’t think you will do that…Myself,I have the same problem with my uncle who choose his wife over us and we don’t have any contact with my cousins and it is hurting because we don’t do anything to deserve it but we continue to live our lives and they theirs….That’s what they want and we don’t try anymore to try to reach out to them..
I am sorry for your situation but I think you are projecting your experience onto Meghan’s. Maybe your brother has other reasons he hasn’t shared with you?? I am not saying it is true but it is possible. It may not even be directed at you as it is about someone else.
@magnoliarose I don’t think I’m projecting, but I am asking questions about Meghan’s situation from a certain point of view. I admit that I’m doing so selfishly, hoping to hear a story or get some advice that I can apply to fix my family.
I am this desperate because our situation truly seems impossible. I love my brother so much that if there was something I could do or say to reunite the family, even at my expense, or the expense of the truth or money or whatever, I would do it. His wife has an extreme need to control every aspect of his life, and it’s easier if we aren’t in the picture.
@ unmade_ I come from a large dysfunctional family. We loved each other despite the disfunction. My brother married a woman who was an only child with disfunctional parents. (The dynamic of an only child vs a lot of siblings is significant). Brother & wife moved far away and cut off all contact. I wrote letter to brother asking forgiveness for any & every offense. I received letter from him reassuring me of his love, & asking forgiveness in return. Ii called him & his wife answered, saying he did not like me & did not want to speak to me. I know the truth. It is what it is.
You have to love your brother enough to let him go. Why do you feel it’s your job to “fix your family.” Raise your children, send him a christmas card and let him be. He will come when his ready there is nothing you can do to make him talk to you. The only person you can control is yourself.
I think it’s pretty obvious that this family has wronged her horribly. Abusers are always way worse in private than they are in public, and if they’re this bad in public…
I agree. He didn’t become a self-obsessed abusive jerk overnight. Meghan’s probably been putting up with this sort of behavior since she was born, and when she got old enough to escape, has had to set boundaries or else continue to be abused (which he is clearly still trying to do).
It’s really not hard to see that the real estrangement began after Meghan got her role on suits. That kind of money is enough to make you well off but not enough to make you out and out rich.
The probably felt they deserved a slice of the pie and were upset when none was forthcoming. That said they only have themselves to blame. If you cannot be bothered to attend your baby sisters wedding then don’t expect her to look out for you.
So in the respect Doria was right ‘what have they done for you lately ?”
(assuming she actually said that).
When a man uses his smarts over emotion, we praise him.
When a women does it – she is a heartless Bish.
How is it obvious that the real estrangement was when she got suits. I mean the sun had a video when she was 19 saying she “had a falling out” with him. Stop making up stories to fit your agenda.
There have been MANY ‘falling outs’, however the significant one was clearly after Suits. At 19 Meghan still had no real independence or financial power as she was dependent on her father so had to make it up to him and find away to rub-along with the family.
That is how transactional Narcs operate they hold you to them with the things they do for you. That is why he keeps recounting the amount he has spent on her. In his eyes, she owes him a debt and he owns her till that debt is paid as he sees fit.
When she got suits she finally had her own money was able to move away, end her marriage and lessen contact with members of her family she was not so keen on.
They lost control over her because she no longer needed to placate or enable them for her survival. It’s that simple. Such a dynamic repeats itself in dysfunctional families where often adolescent and young adults have to humour less functional family members just to get by.
The power dynamic has moved on again, she is now a Royal and her father clearly despises her. He calls Meghan and Doria Wilful which is code for ‘angry black women’ he cannot control.
The relationship between Meghan and the Markles started to fragment when she went to college. There she would have been exposed to people of differing backgrounds and likely and began to realise how dysfunctional and un-boundaried her family was. However she was not able to break away until she started earning real steady money. That came with Suits, which opened up a whole new world to her ultimately leading to Meghan rubbing shoulders with people who rubbed shoulders with Harry.
It is clear to see from ALL the interviews given by her father that he knows he has lost his daughter. She is no longer dependent on him for anything. The last thing she depended on him for was the affection of a father, but he even failed in that duty when he humiliated her shamelessly on the world stage.
Thereafter she realised that he really wasn’t doing anything for her to warrant her honouring him as a father. That is the narrative that TM Snr and Scammy have been pushing, i..e that she (Meg) should honour her father, But after all this behaviour what is there left to honour ?
I agree TM needs to stop talking. He’s not helping himself and is hurting Meghan. I wish the media would stop listening. Unfortunately, I don’t think Meghan can do anything but keep silent. However, I am not sure the info about MM living with TM during her teens is false. Meghan said she spent daily after-school time on the set of Married With Children during her pre-teens/teens. Other pre-wedding stories said she lived with TM at some point after the divorce. And yet other pre-wedding stories suggested Doria had a “finding herself” period between working as a makeup artist on General Hospital where she met TM, working as a travel agent, and finally being employed as a yoga instructor/social worker. DR didn’t earn her social work degree until three years ago, after all (some sources suggest Meghan paid her school costs.) The house DR lives in she inherited from her father in 2011. NONE of that is meant as a criticism of Doria. Lots of wonderful adults have meandering life paths. I think she and Meghan do have a good relationship. I think DR is an important source of support for Meghan and very likely will continue to be. But the narrative that DR has always been stable and TM always a FU so far as Meghan is concerned may not be entirely true. And according to public records both TM and Doria have filed for bankruptcy so both have had some financial instability.
By comparing him to Doria you are doing what he wants you to do. He wants to make Doria look less “good” so he will look better. She hasn’t gone to the press to defend herself or clear anything up so he is taking full advantage of her decency and decorum to press his narrative. He wants to rewrite history publicly to excuse his behavior and control how the public views his place in Meghan’s life. There is nothing normal about this.
Meghan is clearly more bonded with her mother and that is all that matters. Doria’s imperfections don’t matter. She isn’t the one out there blabbing like a loon. Even if she was flaky or indecisive as far as a career path or life-I just shrug. People find their way and some people like to do a lot of different things. It has no bearing on her character or mothering abilities.
TM was a non entity. He was just there and got a lot of goodwill and breaks until he opened his greedy crazy mouth and exposed himself. He wants the world to think HE is why she is where she is. No one else including Meghan should take credit.
I just don’t think the family situation is as simple as some have portrayed it to be @magnoliarose with TM always portrayed as an uncaring father to Meghan. Clearly he is at fault now. Clearly there is no excuse for what he’s doing. But in the past MM herself has described him as caring and loving. And growing up Meghan’s immediate family involved 2 people plus herself. If the goal is to understand from afar the family dynamics, to me it’s a bit naive to look at the actions of one person in a vacuum (and if his past actions aren’t fully known, just make them up— for example many people seem to have decided he physically abused DR and Meghan–hence the divorce although there’s no known evidence of that. Others have decided he was a deadbeat dad who refused to support Meghan and there’s definitely evidence that’s not true.) On the other hand, if the goal is simply to evaluate from afar TM’s DM interview, then the past doesn’t matter and there’s really very little to say. He’s becoming more and more unhinged. Personally I think he probably is mentally ill. That’s not an excuse for his behavior. But denying that mental illness can affect personality (and exacerbate existing PDs) and can affect behavior may actually lead to even more stigma.
MM always said lovely things about her father in all her interviews before this. The only one saying horrible things about TM is himself. In fact it’s a statement of MM character that she was always diplomatic about her father.
Yes it’s ok to look at a person’s action and judge them by his actions. Why do we think he was abusive to Doria because he is abusive to his family in public.
If one sees rainclouds, its safe to assume it’s going to rain.
Thomas is already appearing increasingly unhinged. And he was not stable from the start so it’s alarming.
Soon he will talk himself into a hole. So unsympathetic and no one will want to hear him. All while sympathy shifts to favor Meghan. It’s coming imo.
Also, if she did reach out to him I’ll bet loads he wants her on board for a joint interview and photos. I’ll bet that’s a prime motivator rn.
I don’t know this guy personally but I hate him. Many people are missing the point here: he is riding on his white privilege and using coded languge like ‘attitude’. A word often used ny racists to label strong black women. I see what you are doing here you pos father.
I’m more than convinced that you can father a bi-racial child and totally be a freaking racist. That’s what Thomas and his kids are. I bet he abused Doria and Meghan verbally and physically.
Truth. It’s nothing but coded language to attack two strong black women. TM and the tabloids know what they are doing by using this language. Just wish they’d get called on what this is….emotional abuse
Just like Vonnie, calling Doria “the maid”… she learned it somewhere… jus’ sayin’…
Yes this fits perfectly with the dailymail’s racist agenda.
Yes! He all but said “uppity”, a word which is virtually never directed at white women.
As much as Meghan might wish she could make a statement to the press about this POS, I’d bet my last nickel that every interview is hardening her heart against him. She will never, ever see or speak to him again.
I’ve been referred to as uppity and I’m white. It does happen. I don’t disagree with you but I do see some people refer to others in a different social class as “uppity.” And they happen to be white. I’m also referred to as a bitch because I’m a strong woman…it’s definitely coded language.
@Purplehazeforever
I’ve never heard anyone calling a white person ‘uppity’, not in the states.
Entitled, snobby yes. Uppity, no. That was and is referred to blacks by racists.
Although this pos didn’t use that term, he came quite close to it when talking about his ex-wife and his daughter.
@purplehazeforever
I said “virtually”, not “literally”; there are always going to be exceptions. Any woman who appears to be getting “above her station” could get slammed with that word, but the vast majority of them are likely to be black.
Purplehazeforever
Whoever said that was an outlier. It is a known word used by white racists to excuse harming black people who “got out of line” or who thought more of themselves than white people felt was acceptable.
Obama was called uppity for example. MLK. Angela Davis. Eric Holder. Malcom X. Medgar Evers. All the leaders of the civil rights movement. Successful black business people or movie stars. The movie Rosewood is about a whole town destroyed by jealous racists because it was a thriving little town of striving black people so it had to be burned to the ground. All because they were “uppity”.
It is highly offensive Jim Crow language. If you ever hear someone say it about a black person you should confront them.
You may not mean to do this but by making the slur seem like it has anything to do with white people is dismissing the history and gravity of the bigotry behind it. The word is not about us.
Thanks for pointing that out because we can add that racist aggression to the pile of nasty things he said. Ugh.
Totally agree, Always Lurking! Would the press still be entertaining this man if he weren’t white? Paying him for interviews? I doubt it. The coded language he uses plays right into the biases of the racist readers of these right wing rags, and they lap it up.
White Male
Men in his family “rarely live past 80?” 80! He makes it sound as if they are dropping dead in their thirties. 80 is a nice long life.
And he did not make Meghan “what she is today” because she turned out well. It couldn’t have been his influence.
@Minx
Right….she became what she did today, DESPITE having him as a shitty father.
Amen!
Apparently he isn’t aware of the average lifespan for US men. He should be grateful he’s lived as long as he has, given his physical clues and alleged health issues.
I wonder if part of the British press’s obsession with showing the world what a vile piece of work Meghan’s birth father is is an inherent disdain for Americans in general. See? Look at this vulgar man. He’s so …. AMERICAN.
This is nothing but emotional abuse on the part of Thomas Markle and the British tabloids. The tabs are using TM to
(1) inflict emotional damage on Meghan…none of this is about access to Meghan. The tabs know she won’t talk to TM and he knows it as well.
(2) get a two for one special by having TM attack Doria and drag her back into this mess. After the tabs were called out on their racist attacks on Doria, they were stymied in how to take her down and after the wedding, Doria was praised. Well the tabs and TM will now do their best to abuse both Meghan and Doria using TM as the vessel.
(3) No loving father accuses their child of having a “sense of superiority” and the tabs are using this as a means to “keep Meghan in her place.”
(4) Bringing up Diana was bait to get to Harry. Hopefully he won’t respond.
My heart goes out to both Harry and Meghan. No one deserves this treatment from their family and the media. All they can do is continue to live their best lives and let the haters continue to hate.
Like all manipulators some of what Thomas said is true. Meghan did live during the week with her father during the years she attended her junior and high school years because he lived near the school. During this same time Doria was the primary care giver for her own mother simce her parents had divorced in 1983. She died in 2000 around the time Meghan graduated high school. Doria filed bankruptcy after her mother died like many Americans who care for a parent with our medical system and rack up credit card debt. Thomas filed his bankruptcy much more recently when he retired. Which is another American strategy because social security and pension income is protected so once they retired they file bankruptcy. It’s someone working the system. It’s part of his history of trying to be a scam artist, whether it is trying to hide lottery winnings or set up pap photos.
This makes sense. All the deadbeat dad comments are clearly false. What he’s doing now is disgusting, but they had a good relationship and he was there for Megan as a child.
With each interview Thomas gives I am more convinced he is afraid/angry at Doria and takes it out on Meghan instead. Fully believe that Doria has some serious dirt(MeToo moment perhaps? Why did he really move to Mexico?)on Thomas but she is remaining silent for now so not to embarrass her daughter unlike Thomas
But eventually, he will go too far and Doria will strike back to protect Meghan.
He’s not saying anything new because she hasn’t spoken to him since mid May and it’s almost August. I can’t get worked up because it’s the same thing over and over again.
I think he’s looking for a monthly paycheck to stay silent. Sounds like he’s been told that’s never going to happen, so now he’s out to bludgeon Megan in the only way he can–using the tabloids. Seems like it’s starting to cross the line from “tell-all” to harassment.
I disagree. I think he has been offered a monthly pay check to keep quiet and that offended him, because he thought he could be disrespectful, still get the pay check and access to the Royals.
Instead they have made him understand his position and now he is scrambling.
There was a story out earlier that the Palace was thinking of offering Thomas a stipend and decided against it because more Markle would come out of the woodwork.
I don’t think any paycheck could quench this man’s thirst.
#teamtungsten
I don’t communicate with people who repeat and embellish anything I say, even in confidence. T. Markle is no loyal confidante.
Just shocked at how he managed to pin Scammy’s abusive behaviour on Meghan tis all.
“Mr Markle insisted:
‘Meghan could have won Samantha over with just a few kind words and Samantha would have praised Meghan for all her days.
‘Instead, Meghan turned her back on Samantha and now Samantha won’t stop talking negatively about Meghan.’ ”
Beyond horrified by Papa Smurf and the Daily Fail.
They interviewed this man for 9 hours over 3 days and all we get is insults, insults and more insults. He even took a swipe at Doria and late Princess Diana.
His blows were calculated for effect. Anyone close to her or anyone who has or means anything to Meghan and Harry.
Mean, angry bitter old man. I hope he is never allowed anywhere near KP/ RF, find out about future offspring like the rest of us from KP press release and we never see his fat ugly mug in the Christening photos.
This man in venomous poison who has destroyed the lives of his adult children whom are both estranged from their own children and he should NEVER be allowed anywhere near M&H’s children.
It is disgusting but I am not surprised. He refuses to take responsibility for his role in why his older child loathe his youngest child. He was a poor excuse for a father and they blamed Meghan for him not being in their lives.
In his mind, Meghan just needed to suck it up and understand their jealousy and cruelty. She was suppose to be the bigger person. I am sure Meghan did suck it up most her childhood because she had no choice but once she was old enough to be confident to fight back, she did.
It is no coincidence that once she hit her late teens things seemed to go south with Meghan and Thomas Sr. How he acted then is how he is acting now. Only she is a grown ass woman and refuses to placate him anymore.
It’s also interesting that he said that he said that he feels Meghan’s life would be easier if he was dead.
That is the sign of a VERY DANGEROUS Narc. The really calculated Narcs read up on their condition and how it affects their victims in a bid to outsmart them.
Speak to the adult survivors of Narcs who have died and they will all say the same thing, the relief / release they felt when their Narc parent finally died.
At this point I wish he would hurry up and get on with his departure. He is just plain evil.
I’m still surprised that the Palace hasn’t done anything about this man. I’m more shocked that Ingrid Seward wrote an article in the DM saying Meghan’s decision not to speak to her father is entirely hers and that neither the Queen nor the Palace interferes in people’s personal lives. She even went ahead to say Meghan should call TM and like Piers M, that Meghan can’t claim to be a humanitarian if she can’t care for her dad. If this isn’t blackmail, I don’t know what it is.
I agree Pamm and the thought of another woman asking Meghan to roll over and continue to take this emotional blackmail just turns my stomach! I believe the decision to cease contact with Mr. Markle’s is entirely Meghan’s, as it should be. Of course she might be seeking advise from other family members or advisers but this man is her father and the decision to engage him or not should be her’s alone.
Isn’t Seward a horrible Royal mouthpiece?
Isn’t Ingrid one of Charles’ “back pocket” reporters, rah-racing for him all the time? Wonder if she ran this one by him??
What can the Palace really do, though? He’s a loose cannon who lives on another continent. If they pay him, as has been said here many times, he won’t honor an agreement and will only come back for more—along with every grifting loser in the Markle family.
Ignoring him is the way to go. Don’t give him any information and at some point the media won’t pay him for repeating the same old self-pitying whining.
For one thing, Doria divorced him for reasons we don’t know about. Meghan hadn’t had a relationship with him for a long time, and again, for reasons we don’t know about.
This man has many skeletons in his own closet and it’s my bet that the only reason he’s giving these interviews is for money. If he cared a lick about his daughter, he wouldn’t say a word.
I guarantee he’s done some really offensive sh-t to both Doria and Meghan.
I really wonder just how much he got for this interview. This complete loser will continue until the well runs dry.
The Mail say he wasn’t paid for the interview but that doesn’t mean anything.
The money may have been given to Samantha or this may be part of a series of interviews which he gets paid for later if he can secure a phone conversation.
I agree, they can say anything they want to. One way or another, this man is being paid.
Trump never paid off Stormy either.
He signed a contract with The Sun to do a series of interviews.
They were pretty brutal posters at the DM, one offering him Dignitas a suicide drug, use the tunnel in France, a car boot in Mexico and different ways for him to off himself.
This man is desperate, attacking Prince Harry, Doria, using Diana, called the crown that dusty old crown, he is bitter, he is pissed that Doria was praised and met the Royal Family.
I think he knows there will be no relationship with PH.
While he was hiding out in a B/B, faking that he was getting heart surgery.
Anyone notice he is using Monty Python like his Grifter daughter, this is about the third time, they’ve use the same words.
When you think this man can’t go any lower, he sinks deeper in the mire.
Thomas thinks so much of himself, he though he would be missed at the wedding, alas he was not even mentioned. All these slights are making this narcissist go bonkers, and he is trying to torch his daughter and her husband.
Then he pulls out the death card, you know the saying piss on the pot or get off.
The Mail isn’t stupid. They know TM won’t be able to secure a phone conversation and record it lol. They aren’t amateurs! They’re doing this for another reason. It brings clicks, adds drama, and the Press can get their own back… I think this is directed at Harry for his initial statement.
The Mail has it in for the RF but they seem to be aiming at Harry for the moment, it started when his legal team sent threatening letters to them over the racist coverage of Meghan and her mother. The Fail was leading the charge if i recall correctly. Harry and William hate the press and this is only adding fuel to that fire, esp as its obvious that Daddy Dearest is being coached on what to say. Markle is using British words/slang that as an American he wouldn’t normally use, he’s being fed phrases/words and is repeating them.
Remember DM was the official home of the Brexiteers and their racist garbage. That crowd is their bread and butter so they give them their hate fill every day.
He’s reminds me of Michael Lohan. Especially when Lindsay was dating Mark Ronsons sister and I believe she had cut him off he wouldn’t stop yapping and blackmailing her. Obviously not the same situation but the narcissism and manipulative behaviour is very similar with these two men.
This is textbook emotional abuse. TM checks all of the boxes: guilt-tripping, threats, rewriting history, lying, making himself the victim. It’s grotesque. It’s time for KP to fight back. Enlist every journalist they know to write about abusive parents, and parents who seek to undermine their adult kids. The key word here is abuse. They have to get the public to connect TMs ranting with abuse.
Also, isn’t it interesting that they release this Saturday night? As if they hope the morning tv folks will have forgotten it by Monday?
This is starting to remind me of the story of Jack Johnson III whose parents stole the fortune he earned as a hockey player and left him in debt by forging his name on bad loans. They blew his money on cars, jewelry, and luxury crap. Their rationale? Their son owed them for all they did for him: driving him to hockey practice at 4am etc. he had to sue his parents, and he’s still estranged from them. Thomas Markle is the emotional equivalent. Meghan OWES him in his sick mind.
His own latent racism probably contributed to driving him and Doria apart. He can’t stand it that his black daughter has risen so high so he has to smash her back down. No loving parent says “you’re nothing without me. “
I worry about Millie Bobby Brown, she has parents like that – her parents are on record saying they gave up their lives and careers to make her a success and that her money is supporting the entire family. That is not going to end well for her.
There’s a lot of red flags with that girl and her family. No, it’s not going to go well for her.
I’m really worried about her, especially as she’s not one of those child stars who only realises they were supporting their family later. She’s fully aware she’s the breadwinner and clearly feels the pressure of that. She’s talked about the stress of losing out on roles when money was tight, and she would have only been 10 or 11 when that was happening.
I thought there was a law now that protects child actors income? It was started by a child actor who lost everything to his parents.
@Lady D You’re thinking of the Coogan Law named for Jackie Coogan. Unfortunately with that law only 15% of the child actor’s must be saved for them only. Not a lot, but at least it’s something. The parents can do whatever they want with the other 85%. Also, it’s not a national law; only certain states have it. I only know about this because I work in banking in NYC. There are definitely parents out there who are itching to get to their kids’ 15%. ☹
Lady D, that is the Jackie Coogan law, after Jackie Coogan’s parents squandered all his money on themselves (this was back in the 1920s I believe).
Now, most of the money earned by child stars, save a % that may be used for their living expenses/schooling, must be put aside in a trust until the child is 18. However, that is the sticking point: “living expenses” are supposed to cover ONLY the child, yet a lot of families take advantage saying that they NEED that big house for the family to live in, or they NEED to buy only designer clothing, etc.
She worries me too. Her parents aren’t protecting her and see her as a paycheck. That is a recipe for a disaster and a beacon for the wrong kinds of people.
That’s it in a nutshell: no loving parent EVER would say, “You’re nothing without me.” Sickening, truly sickening.
Saturday night? It was printed today, Sunday morning, and the comment count is astounding in just a short amount of time!
It showed up online (in the US) on Sat. night.
I read it (in the US) yesterday evening.
The bitterness is dripping from him and he’s publicly harassing and threatening his daughter. Just disgusting.
This is emotional abuse.
Blaming her for his behavior? Check
Suggesting he would stop if she just called him/bent to his will? Check
Telling her she’s be nothing without her and he made her? Check
Blaming her for her sister behavior and saying if she was nicer she wouldn’t treat her so badly? Check
Attacking her mother and those she loves? Check
Threatening his death as a means of manipulation? Check.
Publicly humiliating her? Check
It’s all there and it’s just disgusting how the media is sitting back and enabling this man. They can’t hate Meghan that much to literally give her abuser the power to continue his cycle.
It must hurt more than words can describe to have her own father do this to you. Thomas Markle is a monster and his devil spawns of children are a reflection of him. Samantha and Jr have no relationship with their own mother but clearly stay around their toxic father. Meghan was beyond blessed to turn out like Doria; who Thomas tried to insult and claim Meghan gets her attitude from her. Thank God for that!
I’m pissed and hurt for Meghan. I thought this man was some reclusive guy in Mexico but he was the worst out of all of them. Their relationship will never be repaired. It’s done.
Also, what a terrible thing for him to say that if Meghan was nicer to Samantha, she wouldn’t be trashing her. No, Samantha’s always been jealous of Meghan and that’s Thomas’s fault. Another sign- blaming the abused for the treatment they receive.
You would think in this time of “MeToo” , folks would be calling him out on this abuse. But nothing but crickets. This is abuse and it needs to stop.
Thank goodness Doria has a backbone, because Thomas is spineless.
She should keep on ignoring him, he is trying to get a response from her or the Royal Family.
He is regurgitating the same thing, because the last time he spoke to Meghan was May 21, so no new material to sell.
Is anyone else worried for Meghan’s actual safety? I despise Thomas and his brood.
Yes, I’m concerned for Meghan’s actual safety. Especially the part of the interview where he says even if he sent a letter they’d “probably soak it in water for 3 days to make sure it didn’t explode”. I’m guessing the security services are on top of the situation – but this whole thing is scary.
The situation is pretty triggering for me since I have this parent – in this case it’s my mother. I don’t have contact with either parent now and my life is better for it. Hopefully Meghan can stand strong on the no-contact – there’s no changing this kind of toxic narcissism. I see some Borderline Personality disorder in Thomas too – the valuing / devaluing in the same sentence.
It’s possible to be both BPD/NPD – my mother is – and it’s a dangerous, dangerous combination.
No, security is on it, with her insane family.
Prince Harry always wearing his cape, when the toddler pull/ smooth Meghan’s hair in Ireland, he was on it in a second.
Horrible man. I hope they continue to ignore him. It’s the only way to respond to this narcissist.
“Everything that Meghan is, I made her.”
I literally almost puked when I read that. Now he’s coming for Doria, too? What a vile little nobody of a man. I hope he does croak soon.
No, no I want to sit in his bungalow in Mexico and watch Meghan on tv for a few years, thinking he could rubbing shoulders with the Middletons😁
Coming for Doria is a last frustrated attempt to get a response from Meghan. He’s pulled out his big gun and what’s he going to do when that doesn’t work?
I would love it if her response was to be seen (photographed) in the U.K. with Doria in the company of BRF members.
It doesn’t matter if TM provided for his daughter (as he should have) or if they were close in years past (and if so, it is even more understandable that she’s hurt), there is no justification for his behavior. None. Whatsoever. End of story.
What’s really pathetic is if she had just married another average Joe, none of this would be happening. It’s all just an attempt by her relatives to get on the gravy train.
Classic narcissistic behavior. This fool can have all the seats.
This is abusive. I feel very bad for her. You have done nothing wrong in the relationship with your father Meghan. He is making very clear what a Jerk and control freak he is . Keep on ignoring him!!!!
“She’d be nothing without me. I made her the Duchess she is today. Everything that Meghan is, I made her.”
*Groan*Shudder*Vomit*Vomit*Vomit*Vomit*Vomit*
What a disgusting excuse of a father.
This is pure abusive, narcissistic, misogynist entitlement of the worst kind.
All the more respect to Meghan for thriving despite this dipshit. She is queen. And the queen knows it.
Whole family is trash. Meghan included. She’s a backstabbing social climber.
Wow, do you know Meghan? A backstabbing social climber? I guess you find her ‘uppity’ too.
How come men are never referred to as social climbers?
I think its internalized misogyny.
That’s Duchess Meghan to you.
Lol
Ha! 🙂
Ha! Ha! You may address her as Duchess Backstabber hater!
Backstabbing? No.. but she’s a social climber in the same way Kate and Pippa are. Nothing wrong with trying to elevate your life.
Oh hi Scammy. You can eff the frack off, right along with the rest of your trash family.
Signed,
The World
He opens his mouth and toads fall out.
It only makes sense for lowlife tabloids to take advantage of the situation.
I know its frustrating for Royal fans but the majority of people don’t care about them and see them as freeloaders I.e. there is no reason why tabloids like DM and Sun should treat her any differently to all the actors, athletes and politicians they try and destroy.
Those tabloids are dirt and I hope enough people boycott them for their coverage of this idiot that they lose business. The whole situation is just so hateful and heart-breaking. He has no ties anymore, why do these rags listen? He digs himself deeper and deeper with every word he speaks and is constantly contradicting himself, the fool.
Why would people boycott these papers? Most Brits don’t care about the BRF in the way you might think they do. Sure, there are monarchists, but the majority don’t notice Royal stories unless it’s something big. There are too many things going on right now for the average Brit to care about this drama.
@Leigh honestly, the TM/MM saga just isn’t making a splash outside of the USA at all. People genuinely don’t care. It’s a little celebrity gossip, if that.
Bronson dumping his third wife made bigger news in the tabloids this Sunday.
Yes. Yes he is stay f*cking stupid. He seems like a flaming piece of garbage who I can only write off as a sperm donor. I feel so sorry for Meghan.
I don’t even know this man and I already loath him to my very core.
They need Iyanla Vanzant in their lives to help clean up this dumpster heap.
Lol.
I don’t know, but part of me believes that the Palace (not poor Jason and the incompetent lot at KP) do not seem to be concerned about the embarrassment TM is causing Meghan. The most I’ve seen from them is the story that TM faked his heart attack.
the article from Ingrid who is known to be Charles whisperer and foot stool is suspicious. She clearly exonerated the Palace and laid the blame on Meghan’s feet. She may have done it on her own but …..no one can tell..
I read in People and Cosmo magazine some time ago citing ‘ sources’ that say Meghan was allegedly disturbed that the press department at KP are not handling TM the way she would have wanted. I didn’t know whether to believe the story or not, but with Ingrid now saying that the Palace didn’t advise her to cut off her father and it was her own decision, neither would the palace interfere in her family matters is very suspect.
I don’t believe in coincidences. Many people have stupidly blamed the palace for the TM chaos and I just have this nagging feeling that to this is the palaces’ way of hiting back at those questioning their competence.
I’m wondering why the palace machinery hasn’t been set into motion to shut TM down once and for all. Or they really may not be bothering about the embarrassment it’s causing Meghan.
Again, what can they do? The only thing that would shut him up is money or access and they shouldn’t give him either.
I think complete silence is the best tactic.
Honestly, what can the Royal Family do? Thomas lives in the US and freedom of speech, is a right, unless trump try to do away with it.
Libel is very hard to prove and win Court cases in the US, how many actors ever win cases against tabloids, very few, Carole Burnette is the only one I can think of, off the top of my head.
The tabloid covers say one thing, but the articles inside always have an escape word, maybe, might, not sure etc.
Someone like Thomas, give him enough rope to hang himself, people use to feel sorry for him, now they’re willing to help him meet his maker, and Meghan had to do nothing.
Ingrid is a biddy, now she is not worrying about Meghan knowing which spoon to use, she is latching on to Thomas being persona non grata.
It’s so sad. You would not believe that even serious Newspapers like Telegraph published TMs story. I thought it was just the tabloids. I tend to believe some of the commenters who say that a section of the British media is using TM to hit back at Harry over his letter. On a second thought, is there no way Meghan can make give him monthly stipend and an apartment, then make him sign a draconian NDA that can land him in jail?
@Pamm-. I don’t think anyone can be forced to sign a NDA. And even if he did sign one for some amount of money and later broke it, the penalty would be civil (as in he could end up with a judgment against him that he likely would never pay but that would happen only if the Palace sued him— an outcome that wouldn’t be good PR for the Palace either.) Breaking a NDA isn’t a criminal offense. So he would not go to jail. And would we really want to send someone to jail for words we don’t like? I agree TM is unhinged and needs to be quiet but the law isn’t going to be helpful IMO. People are allowed to be jerks.
I think as someone said elsewhere they should calculate how much he claims to have spent on Meghan and just pay him off. He seems fixated on how much he has spent so maybe time to just pay him off and then all he can complain about is affection, which will look really stupid given the abuse he keeps hurling at her.
Meghan only need to invest in a nice secure apartment and then give him a lump sum. If he burns through it then so be it that will be his problem. When he snuffs it the property reverts back to her.
I would laugh myself silly however when the Tax people come sniffing around Thomas after he receives his windfall.
If he burns through it he will be back for more. They’ll never get rid of him and then Samantha and the others will think, hey why not me? TM is a blackmailer and extortionist and they shouldn’t negotiate with him IMO.
@MInx I disagree – bc at this point it will be clear he was paid off and they will have evidence he blackmailed them for money and succeeded. Also Scammy has no claim, she didn’t pay any school fees or college fees.
Paying him off breaks that tenuous bond. She can no longer chastise Meghan for not ‘taking care of him’.
He will very clearly for all the world be living in luxury in Cali where all the paps can watch him burn through the money and have access to his tax forms.
He will make himself look stupid.
DizzyLizzy—I think if they cut one check for this guy it opens up a huge shitshow and he will only ask for more.
Never pay off someone who is trying to extort you.
Heck not one cent for school fees or college, parents.
Thomas is a bully, newspapers can print want they want, only rabid haters on the DM are supporting him, running like three of out ten. That is down considerably.
Some are using the excuse early onset dementia, but I see more narcissism personality disorder, maybe dementia is around the corner.
I think Thomas is enjoying Meghan not speaking to him, and using it whip himself up in a tizzy.
I’m not sure that evidence TM successfully blackmailed the Palace for money would do the Palace or Meghan much good either @DizzyLizzy.
@Pamm I agree with you about Ingrid Seward. I know she hated Meghan since Harry’s last girlfriend before Meghan was a daughter of her friend and she even wrote a post urging Harry to propose to her, but I know she is a royal apologist, if she did this on her own, she is hateful and if there is no push back from the palace on her, then I will be side eyeing them. She craves access like she craves air.
They tried to bring him into the royal fold when the engagement was announced – this is the RF way – but he rejected every offer and bragged about it in interviews since. I now think he rejected all offers as he could see that it was a way of ‘managing’ him and giving that he’s showing us his ass and how he feels about ‘owning’ Meghan I can see why. He thinks as he’s her father he should be the one calling the shots with regards to her life with her new husband and his family – me thinks marry that Trevor twat was a way to get away from Daddy Dearest’s manipulations, same when she moved to Toronto as it gave her physical distance from him.
From what i understand, many toxic narcissistic parents focus all their ‘attentions’ on one child while ignoring the others – seems this is the case with the Markle’s. Daddy Dearest focused everything on Meghan and ignored his other children hence why they have a deep seated hatred of her, esp Scammy.
You hit the nail on the head! Well said.
@Digital Unicorn
The dynamic with toxic parents is that they usually ascribe a role to each of their children.
In the Markle household it is clear that Thomas Jnr was the black sheep (Scammy made sure of that).
Scammy was the flying monkey i.e. does all her fathers bidding. Interestingly Scammy does not appear to have ever been the golden child, hence why developmentally she is still a pre-pubescent child. By making her do his bidding TM Snr effectively arrested her development. She went along with being his garbage can and trouble shooter bc it is the only way her father shows her love.
The most interesting of them all is Meghan. She has at varying times been the idolised golden child, but most of the time she has been the scape-goat along with Doria. He both idolises and devalues both of them from week to week depending on when he is interviewed. He is incapable of seeing them as complete human beings but rather just objects which either fulfil a purpose or are in his way (watch the last three interviews).
Samantha is the most tragic because she is caught in a huge toxic co-dependnt mess wth her father. They use each other to harm people including Meghan and bizarrely TM Jnr and even her own mother and children. I suspect that Scammy helped Snr get out of both his marriages. She hates both women,
In conclusion TM Snr and Scammy are the classic cluster B nightmares. TM is malignant Narcissism at it’s finest. Scammy I suspect has co-morbid NPD, BPD and HPD.
Yes. Narcissists like the child who reflects best on them. For him, it has always been Meghan.
Can somebody tell me what Ingrid Seward said in the interview? I refuse to click on any article that mentions TM. Thanks.
Basically that Meghan should call her father and the Royal family is not responsible for her cutting ties with him, it was all Meghan’s doing.
Oh and how she can be a Humanatarian and not talk to toxic(me) father.
Thank you Peg.
Ugh! Shame on her. People should call her out for this. I remember her as being really condescending when interviewed about Meghan before the wedding.
I disagree with this and here is why. If they wanted him to have lines of communication, then they would not have gone to lengths of disconnecting the telephone numbers of the Palace Aides.
William has overall control of KP communications and if Chuck had wanted comms left open, then he would have not allowed aides to close down those phone lines. Meghan can do what she wants but the aides would not have closed all viable means of communication without orders from higher up.
Also notice the decision to shut down those lines happened recently after the recent fallout where some senior aides were sacked.
That all seems to indicate that KP & Clarence House now deem it more appropriate not to communicate with TM.
At the end of the day they know where are how to find him. A lot of Palace Comms staff are often poached externally from the industry so they would have known EXACTLY what Snr was up-to promoting KP to disable those lines to avoid tapping/hacking (especially when Piers Morgan entered into the fray).
My theory is that there is A LOT of dirt on TM that prompted him into his hermit style life in Mexico. The Palace are distancing themselves from him for a reason and we will also soon find out all about the world of TM.
Children, even adult children, never stop hoping that a parent will be a parent, i.e. love unconditionally, not expect the child to be the provider, not abuse, not bully, not manipulate, but simply nurture, without thought of repayment, or dues. But, that’s not life for all and you learn to parent yourself, and if you’re lucky like Meghan, you have one functioning parent. and you can decide that’s it. Hopefully, she keeps him out of her life forever and ignores the abuse enablers, she doesn’t have to appease or keep him in her life. I think the children in these situations sometimes learn that more when they have children of their own – their protective instincts kick in and there’s no way they’d let their child near this type of person. Hopefully, then the realization is “why do I let them near me?” It’ll blow over and boy does he make Charles look wonderful.
The part where he said he made her made my jaw hit the floor. Oh, so you made Harry fall in love with her? You memorized her scripts on, “Suits?” You took her exams in college? The gall on this man! More reporters have to start calling this abuse. Shame him into silence (or as quiet as he can be). I don’t give a sh-t he paid for her education or that she lived with him. He is abusing her now and it’s disgusting. Especially since he has a biracial daughter and he is signaling to racists. It sort of reminds me when Rob K. Gave out his sisters numbers. They are woman and he as a man was encouraging other men to harass them. All because he was mad at how they treated him.
Yeah what does he want to do? Send his own daughter an invoice for supporting her as a father SHOULD?!
This guy is such a
Loser
I wonder what Doria thi ks of him
I think the invoice is actually the way to resolve this. Optically it makes him look like the cuuunt he is and show him for what he really is and she can finally get some peace and acceptance.
For those will Narc parents and relatives some of that will make sense. The realisation that a Narc parent would accept money in those circumstances is soul destroying but also liberating, bc in that moment you have your final answer and you know exactly where you stand.
Sometimes that is the only way to deal with a transactional Narc, bargain them out until they lose all their collateral and thereby they lose their hold on you.
He cannot complain thereafter that she is not affectionate or doesn’t love him because not even the dailyfail readership will take him seriously,
I hate the idea of paying off emotional terrorists, but the reality is if she has decided she had enough of this then this might be a way to broker it. Thereafter his complaints will just be noise and Scammy will have no more grounds because she will basically be the one burning through the settlement.
The problem is, he wants money AND access. He wants the BRF or Meghan to subsidize his life and he still wants the attention he would get from socializing with them. How could they trust him, knowing he would sell out his own daughter? NDAs would do nothing. As others have said, the RF have dealt with far more problematic people than Thomas Markle. He’s just an annoying fly they need to keep swatting away.
No Dizzy he won’t stop at that.
You cannot let them in AT ALL.
Believe me, I am still fending off a pack of family hyenas because I tried to be nice and generous. I have only been lied to and manipulated in return. Now that I shut the door they are STILL trying to find the little crack of light to find a way in. They think their lifestyles should be equal to mine without ever having lifted a finger. There is absolutely NO logic behind it.
One word to this creep and he will dine on it for a decade.
Impressive strength, magnoliarose. Good luck.
Well, he won’t win the father of the year award. Hopefully Meghan can focus on the job and ignore the tabloid noise.
My father would never do this to me and he would make a house visit and kick any mans butt that spoke about me in this way as well.
Sad to see she had abusive absentee father growing up.
I can only imagine how hurt she is
Oh dear. 218 comments and rising, the majority outraged and wanting and telling him to shut his disgraceful yap. And still not understanding that giving attention to his disgraceful yap is what keeps him yapping and what keeps the tabloids giving his disgraceful yap a platform.
I’m way more horrified with and disgusted at the truly despicable and opportunistic Ingrid Seward, basically telling Meghan to indulge and bow to her father’s disgraceful bullying if she wants the public to remain on her side.
ITA.
I read the post and didn’t even want to comment as I felt it would be giving him some form of my attention. He deserves nothing.
Makes the Middleton’s look really good. And here people were criticizing then. How about some nice words for them from now on.
I don’t know Meghan but my heart goes out to her. I lost my father to addiction some years ago and I miss him dearly. Even with the problems that came along with his alcoholism. My father would never behave like this pile of dung. Her father and those two vile half-siblings need to be shot out of a canon into a garbage dumpster. Her father has no one to blame for Meghan’s silence but himself. His fake heart attack and fake surgery. Posing for fake pictures for money. Selling her out at every turn to any news organization that will pay him. He has become the perfect asshat. Again, it makes me cringe inside for her. He’s belittling the hell out of himself as well. And it must hurt to have the world believe your father is a class A turd. Celebrities are now tweeting about how awful he is. That’s why my heart goes out to her. I just don’t want the RP to pay him off. Do not give him a dime. That’s what he wants.
I am sorry for your loss. 🙁
I didn’t know celebs are now noticing. Geez. I agree. Don’t pay him off.
Thank you! 🌺
GET DIANA’S NAME OUT YA MOUTH! Interesting that he references Di since she didn’t come from the most stable of families either: her mother spoke against her to the press, her brother was a complete brat when C&D first got married and wouldn’t let her live in the family home when they were separating and, as people have pointed out above, she constantly cast people out of her life if she didn’t like something they did.
The BRF will just let him continue to hang himself and, when he’s tired and/or the press realizes how useless he is, they will bring Meghan even further into the fold. They’ve decided she’s one of them and will have her back while also extending invitations to Doria. He ain’t nothing but an irritating bug to them and they’ve dealt with worse.
The only thing you can do with a parent (or anyone, really) who is a narcissist is to cut them off and ignore them. That’s what Meghan is doing and what she should continue to do. This dumpster fire will rage until it finally dies out. Abusers will keep getting louder until someone shiny and new comes along for them to attach to and destroy. She’ll be fine. He won’t but that’s not her problem.
He comes off as very hurt and angry. Calling the rags hypocritical is hypocritical considering everyone here including myself are lapping it up.
Shamefull man. One other point I wanted to bring up… Thomas Markle has several other children/grandchildren he’s estranged from. Does he go to these lengths to repair those relationships? I think not. He is ENTITLED, like he’s a royal himself. You can see how he progressively becomes crazier and crazier with each interview. He also contradicts himself constantly. The new threats promise to “unload” if he’s ignored any longer. And if nothing else, we’ve learned that silence is the best revenge.
If Doria was not raising Meghan from 11-17, tm raised her, paid her education, supported her while she was searching for a job, how is Megan closer to her mom? I can see why the father would feel resentful, that she’s supporting and closer to her mom while ignoring him? None of it excuses his behaviors, but that is wierd that she’s so close to her mom now.?
Maybe she likes her mother more?
I think it is always important to not take Narcs at face value and always take what they say with a pich of salt. Look at Trump as an example of that.
TM is so complex that he might actually believe he underwent heart surgery despite the fact that there is no record of any such procedure.
My suspicion is that Meg spent time on set with her father during the week and then her mother would pick her up after school.
The other thing that happens in fractured families is that children often do not truly understand the nature of the conflict between their parents until they reach adult-hood. It would be then that she would have started to understand how toxic her father was when she moved away and started cultivating friends with healthier boundaries.
If there is one thing that comes across the real shifts began to happen when she went to Northwestern. It is almost as if she completely changed her life and didn’t look back. That is a classic time when people from dysfunctional families start to sever. They step away from the bubble they grew up in and have the AHA moment.
That is always what I felt the dispute between her and Ninakai was about. Meg wanted to move on and away from her past and I sense that was not well received by Ninakai.
Until you have navigated a dysfunctional family all this stuff is almost impossible to explain to others.
That makes sense. I guess you need to step out of your regular life and take a step back to understand your own family. I just don’t get this family-they were reasonably middle class, had opportunities. I don’t understand where so much bitterness and anger stem from and why?? sometimes people just create their own unhappiness…
Yes. I’ve also wondered if Meghan replicated dysfunctional dynamics in her childhood friendship and her first marriage because that’s what felt comfortable and familiar and that’s why there were abrupt ends to these relationships. Both the friend and the ex tried to cash in on their connection to her.
Wait, what???? How is it weird that she’s so close to the woman who gave birth to her and have similar interests. Just because Thomas paid for her schooling and lived with him doesn’t mean they’ll automatically get along. I lived with my parents and I’m much closer to one parent over the other.
In answering to the alcohol abuse slam by Sharon Osbourne, Tom Sr let it slip he hasn’t used drugs in over 20 years. That’s new. It makes you wonder if a drug problem derailed his marriage to Doria, if drug use affected his job or if drugs turned him violent. Brace yourself for a past EPO to surface on Dad, and he opened the can.
I saw that, knew his son was smoking pot at 14 in the house, no wonder Doria took Meghan and left.
Look for more slip ups from him as he gets more agitated.
Yeah I caught that line too. 20 years ago Meghan was in high school and reportedly living at her dads most of the time because he had a house in the Los Feliz district close to her school. There are indications she fell out with him around that time. Who knows if this played a role.
There is no way that his drug of choice was pot. He clearly says that he used the drug to stay awake and do long hours.
That sounds like cocaine.
I think we have a better idea now of where Papa Smurf’s money went.
How gross to have an embarrassment for a Dad and the tabloids keep paying him.
Every family has one of those.
If this lumpkin “made Meghan who she is today”, she’d be in insufferable, shrill, greedy, perpetual victim, just like her dad.
I feel SO sorry for Meghan. So sorry! He’s such a narcissist. A malignant narcissist. I hope she doesn’t reach out to him, it will only encourage him.
..”.could afford to give her the best, with a good school, good education, good home. She became the woman that she is today thanks to everything I did for her. And did I get any recognition for it?”
Dear god, providing for your child if is literally the BARE MINIMUM of being a parent! It’s doing what you’re SUPPOSED TO DO, so sorry, you don’t get any fucking special recognition for doing what you should be doing, but if he wasn’t such a self-centered, asshole I’m sure his daughter would love to have him in her life, HE’S the one fucking this up! I can’t get over how much this small-minded, selfish moron reminds me of the moron in our White House, they are both disgusting examples of humanity.
I was in a long relationship with a terminal narcissist. At first I was bowled over by the adoration, flattered by his seemingly celebration of me, in love with the fact that we seemed to have so much in common. As time went on and his behavior darkened I became increasingly concerned and bewildered. How could this person seek to undermine, devalue and show such contempt for me? I plunged into psychological and psychiatric literature and by dint of long and painstaking research realised that this creature with a smiling human face and no soul exhibited all the elements of the dark triad: sadism, machiavellianism and narcissism. This, in a nutshell, is Thomas Markle.
1. He sabotaged her wedding by making it all about him. His genius idea backfired so, rather than showing his true face, he still positioned himself at the centre of the narrative with the Pathetic Old Man persona.
2. Needing to be the centre of attention at all times he willingly sacrificed his son and daughter to create a Them vs US drama.
3. His grandiosity was revealed by his claim that he should have been part of history.
4. Narcissists are compulsive liars: for them, truth is only their own truth – to whit, his “health issues”.
5. Narcissists cannot bear to be ignored, hence his escalating flip outs re Megan’s ongoing silence.
6. Having devalued her after idealising her he will, of course, reveal exceptionally private information about her personal life. Narcissists do not respect other’s privacy, and are indifferent to any hurt caused. They are also fantasists and create alternative dramas in which they, the protagonist, are abused and unfairly shunned. It’s never his fault. Hence she took his money for her education (which good parents provide without demanding recompense) and used him because she won’t give him an entrée to the British upper classes.
7. Skilled at blackmail, narcissists know all the right emotional buttons to press, hence his appeal to what he probably perceived as her Achilles Heel (and what we like in her): compassion.
8. He rubbishes Harry and the RF, the “family she never had”, due to the fact that he perceives her as a possession and is not prepared to relinquish ownership.
9. Since she has appeared to “dump” him his narcissistic rage, like that of a three year old thwarted toddler, is coming to the fore. Narcissists must always, always do the dumping.
10. Since the children of narcissists are typically disturbed and suffering from emotional neglect, they tend to cling to the one who rejected them. He is banking on Tom Jr and Samantha being on his side.
11. Since narcissists play chess with people – who have value only inasmuch as they can supply the narcissist with attention – he is attempting to not only irrevocably split his family from Meghan and Doria, whom he is now abusing, but to drive a not very subtle wedge between Charles and Harry – through attempting to appeal to Charles’s vanity.
Run, Meghan. Run.
Run where? She’s already in the best place she can be. She’s in the royal family now, and they can protect her from this monster better than anyone else. The scary thing is there’s no endgame here. He doesn’t want money (so he says). If he wanted money, he could have certainly gotten it. He wants control of his “prize.” Now he’s sounding like the “if I can’t have her, no one will” abusive husband. That’s what’s so disgusting to me. He’s acting like a violent man toward a wife he abuses, not a father to a daughter. I don’t want to make unwarranted accusations, but if he keeps ranting like this, he’s going to push the narrative into really dark places. What I wonder about now is too horrible to write. What the hell does this man want from his own daughter?
He wants back control.
Ironically he wants her to show him love and adoration she shows Harry.
Notice how his rants come after their public PDA’s and shows of affection. For some reason he views Harry as a threat.
I suspect that is why he keeps going on about Grandchildren. When they appear they will be the new threat. This whole situation is very disturbing. This man is very sick.
I wonder if he ever met Trevor and if so how many times over the course of 9-11 years Meghan was with him?
Run inasmuch as keep her distance, I guess: ignore Ingrid Sewer and those begging her to contact him. You should never, never contact a narcissist: they’ll suck you back in.
As to what he wants – given narcissists’ typical cycles of behaviour, I’m afraid that it’s revenge. They have to be the ones to devalue then dismiss their prey. Since she didn’t allow him to control the narrative, he’s going to unload God only knows what on her. I imagine in the near future he will be filmed outside Buckingham Palace or KP, using emotional blackmail to force a meeting.
He should take credit for what Samantha and Tom Jr are today also…
I feel sorry for anyone unfortunate enough to share the name of Thomas Markle. There’s a jeweler in Houston apparently with the same name. I wonder if he’s getting any blowback from this. It would be great if other people with the name, or even his own family members (brothers, ex wife) step up and disavow what he’s saying. Didn’t one of the nasty siblings boo hoo about their family name being tarnished at some point? Maybe the key to getting him to shut up is some good old fashioned shame. I would be mortified if my name were Markle.
Huffington Post ran an interesting article about how Meghan should deal with her toxic family. Just wish more media outlets would pick up on this and run similar articles:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/therapist-advice-meghan-markle-family_us_5b561234e4b0fd5c73c7c4a1?ncid=%20edlinkusaolp00000029
Also saw where some celebs, like Chrissy Teigan, are slamming TM and telling him to just shut up and leave Meghan alone.
He’s done. She’s gone. He went too far.
What a sad excuse for a human being. Father can’t be mentioned because that is an insult to the word. I’m glad that MM was able to be sane having this douche as a “father”. My dad would move heaven and earth to protect me and his grandchildren.
And his pattern is so obvious: oh MM I am your dad and I love you. No response? Then he goes crazy and has diarrhea of the mouth.
He need to just GO AWAY. if not for his daughter, then for his own sake.
Meghan moved across the continent (from U.S to Canada) to get away from her father. Then she moved half way across the world and it’s still not far enough. She maintained the facade so as not to ruin her image, I get that. People who come from stable homes don’t understand. People think you are weird or it’s your fault when your parents are f-cked up and you have to maintain some ‘normalcy’ to get by. She did what she had to do.
Thomas Sr acts like he wants to f888K his daughter or worse. He is a gross disgusting pig of sub human POS. Why is he not had enough of Scamantha bashing Meghan?? Instead he is defending that poisonous trollop. He isn’t begging to see his current grand children but he’s screaming about grandkids who may or may not be born?
Threats in all form. He’s mentioning the Cartel…the Cartel are not dumb and don’t court attention and no way they would touch that piece of human waste known as Thomas Markle.
Expect next week there will be ‘papparazi’ chase and he will be ‘injured’ and it will be Meg’s fault. Because he’s so well known and important that paps are coming to Mexico just for him.
Thomas isn’t insane. That can be excused. He is poisonous and evil. And what do you do with evil? You cast it out and never let it back in. You are done, Thomas.
Worthless pathetic oxogen thief.
Using Diana’s name?? why don’t you follow thru on that threat and get on a plane and fly to the UK to BP? You can’t and you wont. Meghan should go one step further. Change her name legally to Meghan Windsor Sussex or some variation there-of…and then you can choke on it.
The evil half-sister, Samantha’s considers her interviews with the media her full time job. She even mentioned how she’s been working in media/journalism for many years. What’s so shameful is not only the horrid statements she makes about Meghan, but that she has no guilt and justifies it. Zero integrity. I can’t imagine the nasty karma headed her way. And a lot of what the devious dad, Thomas says are statements Sam has said herself. She’s getting her dear ole dad worked up. So if anyone’s to blame if/when he passes, Samantha can blame herself. I really wish the tabloids in UK would stop this nonsense and show some respect.